More Indictments
How much more do we have to be smacked around before everyone completely gives up doing any police work for this mayor, this superintendent and this town?
Shortcuts wouldn't seem to rise to the level of "Official Misconduct" and certainly not to the level of 5 to 10 in the joint.
Read the Sun Times article if you care. We're rapidly losing our ability to care at all.
UPDATE: We didn't endorse lying. Stop thinking we did. But if you want cops to follow every single procedural nicety written by someone who has no idea what actual enforcing the law entails, you're going very shortly have no cops on the street. Or at least none doing any proactive police work.
Shortcuts wouldn't seem to rise to the level of "Official Misconduct" and certainly not to the level of 5 to 10 in the joint.
Read the Sun Times article if you care. We're rapidly losing our ability to care at all.
UPDATE: We didn't endorse lying. Stop thinking we did. But if you want cops to follow every single procedural nicety written by someone who has no idea what actual enforcing the law entails, you're going very shortly have no cops on the street. Or at least none doing any proactive police work.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
111 Comments:
I hate to tell you this SCC but short cuts and lying arent the same thing.
Im not holier than though and Im not implying guilt.
Im just helping you to define terms and to see things clearly
no way M.B. will be charged. first he would of been either on the medical or time due the day of the incident.
019 district tupi,,,dui po extra freaky;;;puts driver fr t/a behind wheel when they r standing on sidewalk...yet observes the dui? staggering fr car...while driver still standing tall on sidewalk...writes in sobriety tests this and more without doing
any test and has same driver blow positive on arrest report....oops...driver actually didn't blow,,,ASA had to amend in court.....trust me this case no fluke...sandbagging for overtime!
another reason i am done with police work wtf! How many times do we need to be hit in the head? Enough fuck it i am done been done now no more traffic stops sorry guess i did not see that violation, hand waver? They were saluting and waving to the police nice gesture huh mayor freido! sorry proactive is gone forever!
U REAP WHAT YOU WHAT U DRINK
I ALWAY FELT THAT DUI OFFICERS WERE CASH GENERATORS 4 THE COURT SYSTEM.
LET ME GUESS ALL THE LOVELY AWARD THAT OFFICER OBTAINED DONT MEAN SHIT.
ALL YOU OFFICERS WHO WEAR YOUR PRETTY PINS THINKING UR A MARINE TAKE NOTE.
GO THAT EXTRA MILE TODAY AND THE STATES ATTORNEY WILL NOT OFFER YOU ANY PLEA AGREEMENT.
JUST DO WHAT YOU NEED TO RAISE UR FAMILY, A HERO AINT NOTHING NUT A SANDWICH.
Everyone out there is putting their lives in danger everyday just by coming to work. Our hope at the end of the day is to make it home safely. Then, because you make an honest mistake on a piece of paper, you get indicted and stripped. D.M and M.B are two of the most honest and kindest people I know. It's really a disgrace what happened to them. If someone from IAD or from the superintendent's office is reading this blog-you really need to see that you are screwing up these two great police officer's lives and that they should get their jobs back immediately. Everyone in the 8th district has your Murph and Bernichio. I've had the pleasure working with you both and I think that you are both a great asset to this city. Love-Sherry 62ndpl/Kedzie ;)
ATTN: ANSWER YOUR CALLS AND DO NOTHING ELSE.
19-P SAYS IT ALL!!
No foot chases or traffis pursuits.
Are the airport cops still in deep shit? anyone have the low-low down?
Already gave up....
I know the 2 po's from 008,worked with both,they are both good guys,I am familiar with the case,when the facts come out they will be vindicated.
Hang in there MB-DM,you know whats up,in the end please go public with how they railroaded you,good luck.
I will go to roll call.
I will get my coffee
I will answer my calls.
I will go to check off.
I will go home.
THATS IS ALL.
And the occasional ticket to the Monday who deserves it
well, thats it for me, im doing nothing except answering my jobs, its amazing that police are beig treated like this, u know who is going to lose? the honest citizens, not the police noe the badguys!
Do you hear that sound?
It's a drum beating to the tune of "stop doing police work" and it's getting louder every day
indictments, cameras in cars, taser cameras, street corner cameras, GPS, no contract, TRR's, behavioral intervention program, cr #'s, lawsuits, unjust/ridiculous payouts on lawsuits, spars, taking time, 6 day work week, mandatory city living, no chase policy, liberal judges and media, clout, politics, zero backup from dept, zero backup from city, inspectors, half-hour lunches, ipra, court deviations, etc., etc. = no morale and no motivation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Answer calls, write paper, back each other up. Be safe.
I read them. Wasn't real clear as co-def's AR's often read the same. Anyone know who the ASA's are? Why didn't they ask for clarity at the time. Couldn't they talk? They sound stupid.
These politicians who believe that they are cleaning up the city are in for a rude awakening. The days of proactive policing are over. I can't count the number of friends that were "working police" who have told me that it isn't worth it anymore.
For every copper like M.B. that they screw over, 20 working police (at least) will stop working. Twenty working police do more to prevent crime than 300 cops who just "do their job". I know M.B. and if he sent the guy to prison, that is where the guy belonged. To the liberals and police haters that cheer at these headlines.....just wait you are about to get the city you deserve. The powers that be vastly underestimate the effect that proactive policing has on keeping a lid on mayhem in this city.
B.F.
SCC-
There's a difference between shortcuts and blatant stupidity. If Haleas was dumb enough to do things in front of (2) ASA's (who will flip on you as quickly as a west-side shooting witness) then he deserves what he gets. I mean, c'mon, where's the common sense here...or was he too caught up in his own hype to think he was above it all.
And, judging from your own comment, sounds like you condone such behaviour (unless I missed the subtle sarcasm....?)
How about some big bosses. Now that Sorich is going to prison for helping people with exams, how about some bosses who help secure positions for their lemmings? That would be great.
Why use shortcuts for a DUI arrest? Follow the proper procedures and complete the SFST. Why lie on a simple arrest? Then he "shortcuts" with a ASA as a ride along. When does common sense start? DUI arrests are a simple procedure, no reason to lie and fake tests.
Shortcuts wouldn't seem to rise to the level of "Official Misconduct" and certainly not to the level of 5 to 10 in the joint.
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How about if it were an Iowa cop taking a "shortcut" to arrest a Chicago cop for DUI...?
Just remember, every officer in this city is a potential $50 million liability for the city taxpayers.
That means that two officers are a potential $100 million dollar liability.
That, of course, would mean that 20 officers could potentially cost the city taxpayers $1 billion.
Just a thought.
Please, you guys, don't give up. Your job sucks, your pay sucks, your bosses suck, etc. But no matter what you think, you ARE making a difference. For every idiot on the street that's in your face telling you you're wrong, there's ten of us in our homes thanking God that you came when we called. You matter to US.
8th district Murph and Bernichio. We are with you brothers. Two of our best have been delt a rotten hand by a political ASA's office.... we support you and know you will be vindicated!
Moral of the story:
- Go back to school
- Get yourself some real estate
- Get heavy into deferred comp
- Get the fuck off this shit job
TO ANY A.S.A. WHO READS OUR BLOG!!!
DO YOU CUT OFF YOUR TIE AND HANG IT ON YOUR STUPID WALL OF FAME WHEN YOU HAMMER ONE OF US? HALF OF YOU ARE A BUNCH OF DRUNKS.MAYBE WE SHOULD'NT LOOK THE OTHER WAY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF YOU DRIVE DRUNK FROM ALL OF YOUR PARTYS THAT YOU HAVE ALL OVER THE CITY...ESPECIALLY THE SOUTH SIDE..ie BLEAKERS BOWL...DONT EVER SHOW UP TO ONE OF OUR BENEFITS OR PROMOTIONAL PARTYS ANYMORE...AND IF YOU ARE CALLED OUT...DONT BLAME YOUR BOSSES..WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU WOULD INDICT YOUR BEST FRIEND IF IT MEANT GETTING THE WIN.BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW YOU ARE A NUMBERS DRIVEN ORGANIZATION JUST LIKE OUR DEPT.REMEMBER WIN...WIN..GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!
The wise police goes to work and gets his coffee, lunch, answers his/hers jobs then returns homes safe. The foolish police goes to work lookin to hard charge until one day he/she looses his/her job.
they really couln't make it any clearer. if you are still putting boys on the hood you are not too bright.
follow every rule to the letter no matter how inefficent it makes you.
the witch hunt continues for "bad apples".
look on the bright side- perhaps this will lead to more realistic rules.
is the correct response to be pissed off at the world for picking on cops? maybe if they had done their jobs correctly this wouldn't be an issue. the fact that cops blame everybody but the guys who fucked up, helps fuel the perception that cops feel they are above the law. the amount of supervision you bitch about is very common in the private sector. if you hate the job, come on out in the private sector. find out how fast you can get your ass fired for doing things the wrong way. cost your company a few million? your history, not quite like spending taxpayer money to compensate torture victims. if the job is so awful quit. there is a long line of people to take your seat on the gravy train.
Don't you guys get it yet? They don't care if a year or two down the road any or all of these cases against cops get tossed out of court. The idea is to give the general public the illusion that J-Fed and his corps of minions are "cleaning up the department." Its all smoke and mirrors so as to take the focus off Little Richie and his friends. See: no hired truck scandal, no clout hiring scandal, no Meggs Field scandal, no move the museum scandal, no payback, no clout hiring scandal, no my kid made a profit off city business scandal. "I'm clean and didn't know nothin" says King Richard. But we're going to make sure the people believe those damn police pay the price and tow the line."
Don't hear much about Jody's CR# and how it was unfounded administratively do you folks? How come that's not in the printed media? And how come the FOP hasn't said anything (like I really expect them to)?
HATER said...
U REAP WHAT YOU WHAT U DRINK
I ALWAY FELT THAT DUI OFFICERS WERE CASH GENERATORS 4 THE COURT SYSTEM.
LET ME GUESS ALL THE LOVELY AWARD THAT OFFICER OBTAINED DONT MEAN SHIT.
ALL YOU OFFICERS WHO WEAR YOUR PRETTY PINS THINKING UR A MARINE TAKE NOTE.
GO THAT EXTRA MILE TODAY AND THE STATES ATTORNEY WILL NOT OFFER YOU ANY PLEA AGREEMENT.
JUST DO WHAT YOU NEED TO RAISE UR FAMILY, A HERO AINT NOTHING NUT A SANDWICH.
4/16/2008 11:44:00 PM
2344 hours... Kinda early to be toasted on the single malt, no?
I don't think what Haleas did was a mistake. It was a blatant disregard for proper procedure. C'mon, for fucking DUI arrest??? I am embarrassed to be a Chicago Police Detective. There are so many ignorant , lazy assholes on this job who continually fuck up and as a result the rest of us are painted with the same brush. I have 22 years and only three more to go before I got off this job and I can't wait. Most of you on this blog are no better than a "west side" preacher by coming to the defense of all these fuck-ups. This job isn't rocket science, it's common sense. But common sense is not a common virtue, at least on this fucked up department.
I dont have to worry about this I dont make arrests and refuse to go to court. I give all the calls a RD # it makes the "victims"happy and gives me 45mins of peace whiles I's writes. Then I get a personel, some gas maybe a carwash lunch write another rport or two and call it a day. No indictments coming no cr's pending, aint getting sued. lifes pretty good.
Oh how stupid I was....
How many ASAs and corp counsels I stopped while on middys-that I ended up giving a ride home to???
SHould have rammed it up their asses...
Brothers and Sisters:
TIME TO HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE!
(hope you are reading this counselors!)
We are our own worst enemy. Stop cooking the books. Report it as it should be, no simple battery for an ag batt, don't lie for states attorneys, or for your 1 bag pinch. Falsifying reports while in the presence of a states attorney doesn't rise to the level of indicted for doing your job. Working smarter doesn't mean not working. WTF
police officers work hard and deserve 1 hour lunch
mr superintendent give the officers 1 hour unpaid lunch
change hours from 0700 to 1600
you will be a hero and it won't cost us tax payers a penny
Hang in Murph and Bernich in the ned you will come out on top.
I worked with M.B. early in my CPD career and can honestly say he's one of the best street cops out there. Yeah he may milk the Medical or take time a lot, but everyone has some qwerk. Let's face it - it makes some funny stories over the years - his excuses are priceless. From what I understand (THIS IS WHAT I HEARD), this is more of a typo than anything. 2 guys brought in (This is 2004 and you know how many PDT's don't work in 2008!) 1 let go. When they complete the arrest/Case in different rooms (Old 8th Dist.) they have different names on some reports. They both MEAN the same guy, but it's just a typo.(Crap - who'd we let go again?) They meant Joe blow - not John Doe. They go to court, tell everyone - including Judge Vicki what had happened (Mostly our friend) and the guy GETS CONVICTED. The Appellate court hears the case and instead of saying 'You guy's did some sloppy work' they say ' You lied and just guessed who to put in jail'. Another railroad job. Remember this was in the paper and that usually means you're gonna get fucked no matter what.. hell even if there is a VIDEO showing YOU were right, the City's attitude now is - Fuck you sue to get your job back.
Let's all remember this when we are at work this summer and all hell breaks loose.
I don't know all the details of these officer's indictments. But, it still amazes me everyday that officers in this department just can't do things the right way, follow procedure, tell the truth, not beat people, and fill out the proper paperwork. It's really sad to see these officers go through this, but I would have to assume they contributed greatly to their situation. Everyone has to realize by the obvious low morale, that this new Sup and the City DO NOT CARE about any of us. It is way cheaper for the city to burry an officer killed on duty than pay out a lawsuit to some dirtbag. Please do you and others around you a favor and don't give Weis, the City, or the "community" the satisfaction of seeing you or another officer go down and lose everything. It is not worth it. Proactive policing is not the popular thing right now in Chicago. I would suggest leaving and going to the Suburbs or another state where morale & support for the police is higher. If not, then come to work here at CPD, answer your calls, and help a legit victim if need be, and go home to your family. When revenue slows down from a lack of tickets and impounds, then maybe the city will wake up. We have no contract and an administration that wants to make their legacy on how many coppers they can fire. Please, slow down the pro-active police work, control your temper out their on the beat, and do things the way you are suppose too and tell the truth. More often than not the lie will get you in more trouble than the original incident.
May I also suggest keeping yourselves close to God. It helps keep you ethical and moral out their on the street.
Please, you guys, don't give up. Your job sucks, your pay sucks, your bosses suck, etc. But no matter what you think, you ARE making a difference. For every idiot on the street that's in your face telling you you're wrong, there's ten of us in our homes thanking God that you came when we called. You matter to US.
4/17/2008 07:09:00 AM
thanks
I am in my 18th year on the job and have seen a lot of coppers get unjustly fucked in that time, sometimes it was bad luck or just a mistake but this is the all time biggest fuck job of them all. I met Mike when he was a PPO in Englewood and he has been my friend since then. I met Danny when I got to 008 in 2001. Mike and Danny are the two finest Police officers on the job. I have loved this job from the day I started and in all the ups and downs bad and good, I’ve never stopped. This is the first time that I can’t say I love my job. I find it hard to put into words how it feels to see two of the finest Policemen getting so unjustly fucked. This is just wrong. In the end I know they will be vindicated and those who have did this to them know this as well. That’s what makes this situation even more sickening. To put these guys through the grinder for no reason truly shameful and tarnishes the Office of The States Attorney.
Some of you who read this might know Mike and Danny and most of you probably don’t. This situation could have happened to anyone of us on the job. I for one will be standing shoulder to shoulder with them through this and giving all the support I can because they have done that for me and would do the same for anyone on the job.
Fred Hasenfang 008th Dist.
Those of you who are whining are way off base. This copper is one of the more stupid ones. He have two ASA's with you and he "cuts corners" or however you want to say it, and think he got fucked over? C'mon...you people aren't that stupid are you?
You do your job the right way and it's almost impossible to get jammed up, that has been the case always. Now this rimrod has two ASA's with him and he doesn't do things the right way? And people are surprised it bit him in the ass?
I've been on the job a long time, and I did a lot of DUI's. I went through all the steps like you're supposed to, and I didn't have ASA's shadowing me. Win or lose in court, I didn't care, just as long as I did it the best I could.
I'm sorry this guy is getting fucked over, but he can find the real source of his problems by looking in the mirror.
If you shoot yourself in the foot, don't complain that you're bleeding and you're a cripple.
In my job, if I cut evidentiary corners as a matter of routine, which this guy did, I lose my job, my career, my house and my future.
You guys want him to receive more medals or something?
If you can't acknowledge that cops make mistakes and should answer for those mistakes like most anyone else (except the mayor), I can't sympathize with you.
Anonymous said...
Are the airport cops still in deep shit? anyone have the low-low down?
4/17/2008 12:26:00 AM
No it is over no hit no foul!
this is still a great job. you can still be aggresive and pro active, you just have to be legit all the time.
Please, you guys, don't give up. Your job sucks, your pay sucks, your bosses suck, etc. But no matter what you think, you ARE making a difference. For every idiot on the street that's in your face telling you you're wrong, there's ten of us in our homes thanking God that you came when we called. You matter to US.
4/17/2008 07:09:00 AM
Thank you for the kind words,it's good people like you that make what we do worthwhile. However it has become too much of a risk to be proactive these days. I don't mean getting hurt or even shot while doing the job, that is a risk we all knew could happen to us when we joined the dept. If I make a mistake on a piece of paper the brass and ASA's will now call it Official misconduct, perjury, lies, a rule 14 violation, and will be looking to indict me. I am not afraid of gang members, drug dealers, robbers, burglars, rapists, or even murderers. I am afraid of the corrupt politicians here (on and off the job) that would make me and other working officers scapegoats for their political agenda. We see it as headhunting of police officers, it looks really good for an ASA to say he/she got a "BAD COP" off the street. Those of us working cops who aren't clouted up know we have to walk a very fine line to stay on the job and out of prison. That line has become much too thin to do the balancing act anymore.
I hate Mondays
What does "answer your calls and do nothing else" have to do with coppers making shit up on reports.
There is enough legitimate shit going on out there that this should never be done.
Isn't that what we tell the jagoff that were're processing in the station when he cries about shit getting "put on him?"
This post is for the non-police who are writing in support and appreciation of your law enforcement officers. First, I would like to thank you for your kind words, it always feels good when someone takes notice of the work we do and appreciates our efforts.
But, I would like to offer up a challenge to you and all of those in this city who see and know all of the good that the police do, all of the sacrifices that we make and how the lives of all those in this city would be different if nobody was on the other end of a 911 call.
The challenge is to step up and voice your support to the media, to the Superintendent, to the Mayor, to the City. The only voices that are heard today are from the police bashing media, police hating racial groups, police hating liberals, police hating politicians along with no support from our brass or the city government. We need you to stand up and support us.
We can only take so much before our hands become tied and every police officer does the bare minimum. Anything more and you face being fired or put in prison. The good people will suffer, the city will reverse itself 30 years and become a wasteland. All who bash the police along with the City government and Police brass who do not support its officers seem to have a very short memory. They are the same people who sent its officers to "do whatever needed to be done" to clean up the city and clean it got! The expansions north, south and west were made possbile off the backs and hard work of Chicago Police officers. Whats going to happen when the police step down to become reactive report writers?
Please... Voice your support to the world and let them know you will not allow them to destroy your city.
Thanks
The Department, Our Asshole Mayor and now our new Supt all hate us and fuck us on a daily basis. You think crime is bad now, watch the news and look at your stats in late July. Fuck you all - right back at ya. The workers are laying down - no more proactive policing. You'll have to call in the National Guard it's going to get so bad.
MATT T YOUR NEXT! GUYS START PLANNING THE PARTY AND POSTING IT EVERYWHERE. THANKS
Stay tuned for a news story from an investigative reporter. From information I am getting, a news person has dug up a story about officers being at call back for long period of times even after their cases have been completed!
This story will make the department look very bad. I guess one of the reasons was the city screwed up and some cases were so badly investigated, that they are afraid of paying millions in bandaids.
One suit already filed last week and several more in the weeks to come.
Stay tuned...
This Jfed guy is only costing the city more money. He goes after coppers and then the muts they arrested go after the city for false arrest, etc.
Nice job DALEY! There wont be any money to hold a bike race not to mention, the Olympics by the time your new fed is done.
Listen boys and girls (really the boys because the girls just steal a paycheck, okay I'm sorry the few girls that do police work) I will tell you what our Pussy FOP wont tell you.
Stop doing proactive police work!!!!
I cant believe all these FNG's in TRU, SAT-TEAMS, and Gang/Tact teams on the radio doing foot chases, man w/gun, gang disturbance, and the infamous school dismissals. Even getting into car accidents responding to these calls. They ain't worth it, make a honest mistake in a decision in which you had to make in two seconds can have you second guessed, indicted, and facing prison. For what????? You will still be getting the same pay as one of those house cats at 35/mich.Kill a person responding to call driving balls out and see if you don't get charged with reckless homicide. Take you time responding obey all traffic laws and nothing came be done to you.
Write your Parker's only on #1's and your movers only T/A's. Also if you do a mover don't generate revenue for the city. Document the stop on those stupid blue traffic cards and issue a warning. Keep a record of them so when your watch commander asks why your movers are down you have proof that are conducting traffic stops and ask him/her if there is a quota you have to meet.
Police work can be fun and rewarding but not fat the price of losing your freedom. I hope you FNG take the advice from a lot of seasoned and veteran officers on this blog and stop taking these unnecessary risks. I hope I don't have to hear about another P.O. going to prison for doing their job. Stay safe and go home to your families. And finally FOP start looking out for your membership instead of worrying about pissing off the Mayor, he is to fuck us regardless on how you embarrass him in the media.92-4B
I ALWAY FELT THAT DUI OFFICERS WERE CASH GENERATORS 4 THE COURT SYSTEM.
**Most don't do it for the cash but for the well being of people.. my family, your family and some do it for the $.
The two POs from 008 grabbed two guys for narcotic investigation. One of the guys is brought in with the offender because he was with him at time of arrest and possibly involved. They name check both while in the station for warrants and Investigative Alerts. One PO writes the case report and the other PO writes the arrest report. Keep in mind the officers just met these two about 30 minutes before they start writing paper. One PO identifies the offender with the drugs on his report and the other PO incorrectly identifies the second person as the offender. The PO mixed up the names. A honest mistake. The right offender is the one put into the lock up and charged. At court the ASA's ask about the discrepancies in the arrest and case report. The officers read the reports and explain they made a mistake on the one report. The officers go into court and get sworn in. They testify about what they saw and the mistake they made by placing the wrong name on the case report. A judge finds the bad guy guilty. Believes the officers. The bad guy appeals and the appellate court throws out the conviction because of the error on the case report. The officers openly admitted to the innocent error in court! Now they get charged with perjury! Unbelievable.
Thats another PROBLEM in arrests, if off in found not-guilty by crack head jury or Liberal judge. you my friend "PO" are open to CIVIL liability. I don't care if you are a know it all lawyer, the jury and judge still override your GREAT arrest report! DONT ARREST ANYONE WITHOUT A COMPLAINT, MAKE THE BITCH SIGNs AT DOMESTICS AND TELL HER SHE MUST SIGN. TAKE YOUR TIME AND DO GOOD PAPER AND FORGET LATE ARRESTS, YOUR TIRED AND PAPER USUALLY SUFFERS. DUI is another story, cameras are all over so you better be 100% on your game, these YUPPIES and BANGERS will hire a $15000 lawyer and for that $ you better be up to the challenge. These guys will rip you a new anus in court so be 100% prepared if you want to win! You must win in criminal court always, everytime you lose your open for civil punishment. Forget these BS A/R's, some lawyer had a dozen piss bums he called on to crate a class action suit against some coppers. Lawyer wins $, piss bum gets few bucks and officers get time. STOP STOP STOP MOVERS AND PARKERS, IF 80% OF THE WATCH STANDS TOGETHER THERE IS NOTHING "THEY" CAN DO. AND TO ALL THE "SELL OUT, KISS ASS PO'S" YOUR WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH IN-FIGHTING.
Please, you guys, don't give up. Your job sucks, your pay sucks, your bosses suck, etc. But no matter what you think, you ARE making a difference. For every idiot on the street that's in your face telling you you're wrong, there's ten of us in our homes thanking God that you came when we called. You matter to US.
4/17/2008 07:09:00 AM
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Whoever wrote this really does have a point. It doesnt make anything easier and it damn sure doesnt make anything better, and you can also bet that if this letter were written to 100 papers tomorrow, only 1 or 2 in the nation would print it. It is true though.
"Please, you guys, don't give up.
4/17/2008 07:09:00 AM"
Nobody is 'giving up'.
Responding to calls for service, taking action when criminal acts are observed and investigating complaints of crimes having been committed is what the job is all about.
What it is not about is raising revenue, nor interfering where not requested and certainly not sucking up to the many bona fide white collar criminals who see fit to insult the working officers with a mickey mouse 1.1% 'raise' that would result in a 'work action' in any other union labor situation.
It's about time that the citizens of this city realized that, contrary to the opinions held by some, the police are not your individual personal bodyguards, nor are they your instruments of revenge, nor are they your personal flunkies, to be treated like shit until you need them to do the dirty work for you.
Nor are they the politicians' shake-down artists, nor the politicians' collection muscle, nor the politicians' stick, to be used against the public when the carrot doesn't work.
The trend of police returning to primarily responding to requests for service, akin to what the firefighters do, is what is needed to remind the citizens that it is THEIR responsibility to conduct their lives in a civilized manner, just as it is THEIR responsibility to avoid setting their fucking homes on fire.
The longer people are enabled to remain ignorant and act irresponsibly, and still continue to live, the more ignorant and irresponsible people there will be.
Ignorance and Irresponsibility don't naturally result in longevity.
The fact that the ignorant and the irresponsible continue to thrive is a testament to the misguided and delusional 'thinking' of the so-called 'sociological experts' and the self-serving and manipulative scheming of the so-called 'public servants'.
Police and Firemen aren't your personal Guardian Angels and even the Angels can't protect you from your own stupidity.
Coppers that are stricty in the DUI business should all be in jail. It is a most dishonorable career path.
How about if it were an Iowa cop taking a "shortcut" to arrest a Chicago cop for DUI...?
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Thats a good question.
Who has any info on promotions for Lt,Sgt & Det?
the dui guy brags about how much vig he makes in court and how he could care less about any type of police work. hey dude , when u shake all the sand out of your socks, you can thank that sgt for turning you into a robot.
To the men and women of the CPD, thank you for working to protect us citizens in Chicago.
Daley and Jody are not fit to even shine your boots.
God Bless you!!
some of these state's attorneys should indict themselves for impersonating a prosecutor. i have been to court a lot during my career and there are some really good asa's and some really bad asa's. we should start indicting asa's for fucking up cases and losing them due to incompetence. by the way, murph, keep your head up. you are a good man and friend who does not deserve this bs.
Answer calls, write paper, back each other up. Be safe.
4/17/2008 01:20:00 AM
Cannot back each other up if officers stop working. respond to a inprogress call, you arrive and no back up! Where is everyone? Despite the white shirts, blue shirts must back each other on calls. Forget the newspapers and J-FED. Respond to calls and provide backup. make the paper if necessary but do not lie on paper. Not worth prison. Unfortunately we must work and answer calls. Cannot hide for 8 hours.
I believe that proactive policing has kept me safe all of my life. Most citizens, successful, rich, owning property and businesses , having raised children successfully, don't realize that quality policing allowed them an opportunity to do what they achieved without a lot of interference. Take the lid off, we are surrounded by shit. When I came on the job, I thought I was a street-smart person and in the know. My first night tour, in my own neighborhood district, showed me that I really didn't know what time it was. And I really thought I knew the city.
When the proactive policing diminishes, and the people get the policing they deserve, it will be a rude awakening for many if not all. The rules have changed, police aren't going to lose everything for something that isn't worth it. The social contract was broken some time ago. It is out in the open now. No trust.
I've been on for 10 years, have a arrest almost every night except January of course and I see a common thread with all these indictments. All of these are coppers were "breaking" the law. My moral is not low because of idiot coppers b.s.
And if falsifying an arrest report with a civilian (ASA) standing right next to you, then you deserve what you get...asshat.
all this and my dickhead tac lt. still says bring me heads I don't care if they're walking on the sidewalk. If he wants to approve my arrest report that begins Lt. xxx order me to...than I will lock up every one he points to.
KK AT AIRPORT IS IN DOO DOO
is the correct response to be pissed off at the world for picking on cops? maybe if they had done their jobs correctly this wouldn't be an issue. the fact that cops blame everybody but the guys who fucked up, helps fuel the perception that cops feel they are above the law. the amount of supervision you bitch about is very common in the private sector. if you hate the job, come on out in the private sector. find out how fast you can get your ass fired for doing things the wrong way. cost your company a few million? your history, not quite like spending taxpayer money to compensate torture victims. if the job is so awful quit. there is a long line of people to take your seat on the gravy train.
4/17/2008 09:03:00 AM
Sir, or Madam........
How about this?
Are you home most nites for dinner with your family?
1/3 to 1/2 of us are not
Are you off most weekends?
75-80 % of us are off one weekend, every six weeks.
When is the last time that one of your co-workers was shot at? Had to fight with someone who was intent on hurting you. And understand this when I say fight. I mean fight for your life. When I fight with someone he/she knows I am a Chicago Police Officer. That person knows that I am armed..
when is the last time you walked into a house looking for an offender who had just shot and killed someone? Maybe you can tell me when the last time was that you went to the sound of gunfire?
When is the last time someone wanted to video/audio tape you for just doing your job?
Gravy train???? I got news for you
Its pretty easy to judge a whole group of men and women from the safety and comfort of your home is nt it?? I m sure that no one in your profession every screwed up? Right? And if they did I am sure that every single person of the same profession was painted with the same brush, right ? I am not even going to dignify your remarks on the torture issue.
The same men and women on that gravy train that you talk about are the ones who on a daily basis do things that would more than likely make your deffecate in your pants. But like most of the public you are swayed by the pess........ and we all know how fair and impartial the Chicago media is towards the police.
I have been the police for 20 yrs.... and I am still amazed at what we do for people that have no clue what it would be like without us. Instaed of slamming the police how about supporting us?
019 district tupi,,,dui po extra freaky;;;puts driver fr t/a behind wheel when they r standing on sidewalk...yet observes the dui? staggering fr car...while driver still standing tall on sidewalk...writes in sobriety tests this and more without doing
any test and has same driver blow positive on arrest report....oops...driver actually didn't blow,,,ASA had to amend in court.....trust me this case no fluke...sandbagging for overtime!
4/16/2008 11:42:00 PM
Can anyone read this and understand what is trying to be said? Go back to your Phonics book and learn how to write a complete sentence.
Coppers that are stricty in the DUI business should all be in jail. It is a most dishonorable career path.
4/17/2008 04:44:00 PM
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Let's see how grateful you will be to that Officer if your family member gets killed by a drunk driver. I don't know the facts of the officer indicted, but I am thankful that there is an Officer out there that wants to do them given what a pain in the ass they are because of all of the paperwork and how the lawyers treat you like you are the asshole on the stand in traffic court.
I am a retired Sergeant, I spent most of my time in patrol and just want to say that the young police officer is the life of the Department. I also know that when they make mistakes, they dont want to admit it,because they are afraid of disciplinary action. In most cases, I would advise, straighten it out now, if u take a day, so what. If you turn in the wrong arrest report, tell somebody, your Sergeant or Lt. IT IS A MISTAKE AT THAT POINT. Don't wait until it is a cover up and you screw your whole life up. Your bosses are not the Boogey Man and most of the good ones understand that young people do make mistakes and learn by them. Be Safe, it is a jungle out there.
TO: Coppers that are stricty in the DUI business should all be in jail. It is a most dishonorable career path.
4/17/2008 04:44:00 PM
You are a STROKE
WATCH WHAT U DO AT ALL TIMES, AS YOU ARE BEING WATCHED FAR CLOSER THAN THE CRIMINALS ON THE STREET ARE!!!
Now you young hair-gel rookies can figure out why I get into my cruiser everyday, take off my shoes, read my free paper, and drink my 10 per cent discounted coffee, and NEVER do a lick of police work. I getting a pension soon and moving out of this city.
Dear officers if you really truly believe you're making a difference on the streets, Please get a mental evaluation before you're declared insane.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Are the airport cops still in deep shit? anyone have the low-low down?
4/17/2008 12:26:00 AM
No it is over no hit no foul!
just a couple of days off.
4/17/2008 12:05:00 PM
Thanks Boffo, but your opinion does not count. You will have your ass hung out for the vultures.
bernichio is a good guy, JFED doesnt care because if he fires you and you eventually get your job back, he will be long gone. Maybe the media should investigate the solid rumor that the FED approached DALEY about that they were taking over the CPD, and that it would be out in the open or quietly(OLYMPICS) Don't want to embarass the city
There was a time that the old-timers said, if you weren't on the job during the Class of '68, then you had no idea how bad it used to be.
Now, it seems as though our fine city, with its defective leadership is on a slippery slope to see just how bad it can get.
Morale is truly at an all-time low, and the so-called Reverends are the most irreverent, disrespectful cadre of socially destructive hatemongers out there. If these men of God were true leaders, the people that pay for their existence should actually heed the (mixed) messages that they espouse.
As a Catholic, Fr. Pfleger is the truly one of the most embarrassing members of the cloth that I can think of today. The Cardinal, who I do respect, should pull his pathetic, effeminate self out of St. Sabina's and transfer him to the Chaplaincy at 26th and Cal.
In closing, I can only hope that the electorate will come to its senses, or we're all going to be putting in transfer requests to Detroit in the next few years.
Someone else made a very good point: Build up our Deferred Comp. (and always have something else on the side) Remember, IF we strictly allow our employment to define who we are and what we are capable of, the price of unjustly losing that which defined us comes at much too great of a cost.
Let's hope that some of those that would allow us to experience this drop in morale will one day learn that what comes around really does go around.
Who is this tool box who keeps posting about taking his shoes off in his cruiser.
When did Chicago coppers get "cruisers" do drive around in?
Did you make any "collars" today?
Catch the "perp?"
If you wanna play CPD and post on this site, at least learn how to talk like us.
Who investigates the FED's where is the check and balance? Feds are led by the same temptations and troubles we are but who holds them accountable?
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
M.B. from 008 is an outstanding police officer and a wonderful person and I'm sure his partner is too. The city should be proud to have these guys on the street. These indictments make me sick. Keep the faith guys and let us know about any collections.
K.G. 7th district 3rd Watch
Anonymous said...
TO: Coppers that are stricty in the DUI business should all be in jail. It is a most dishonorable career path.
4/17/2008 04:44:00 PM
FROM: Guy too lazy to learn how to do one properly.
019 district tupi,,,dui po extra freaky;;;puts driver fr t/a behind wheel when they r standing on sidewalk...yet observes the dui? staggering fr car...while driver still standing tall on sidewalk...writes in sobriety tests this and more without doing
any test and has same driver blow positive on arrest report....oops...driver actually didn't blow,,,ASA had to amend in court.....trust me this case no fluke...sandbagging for overtime!
4/16/2008 11:42:00 PM
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Hey Tups,
Looks like the above poster is your latest victim. I have an easier time understanding him than you!!
Remember 1996 and all the killings,I DO..We had great bosses.and we had support and worked hard.Now more killing and bad bosses,Im not working.Hope the commanders no who to work th Iclear.Put them in box 1
all this and my dickhead tac lt. still says bring me heads I don't care if they're walking on the sidewalk. If he wants to approve my arrest report that begins Lt. xxx order me to...than I will lock up every one he points to.
4/17/2008 07:25:00 PM
Keep in mind that statement will not fly if the bad guy sues for violation of civil rights. You are still held accountable for your actions regardless of what your boss told you to do.
there is a long line of people to take your seat on the gravy train.
4/17/2008 09:03:00 AM
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Actually, due to the many problems, and the relatively good economy in recent (10 years) years, VERY FEW people are vying for a job in law enforcement...
The officers openly admitted to the innocent error in court! Now they get charged with perjury! Unbelievable.
4/17/2008 03:56:00 PM
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There must be more to the story, that scenario doesn't equal perjury. Not even close
8:54pm
Yes, that was a bizarre post. I was able to decode fr t/a: from traffic accident.
Maybe he's talking about the traffic nazi(western/irving).
Those two deserve each other!!!
About the post of POWs left in call back..
been there, did my time. (1 year)
after the BS "investigation"= 3 days off (rule vio's) 6 months into it IAD shows up and places me on personal concern..LOL what a joke.. asked me to sign off on it..i just laughed and said talk to my lawyer,then they sent me to have a full physical..i still cant figure that one out, just fishing i guess.
upon learning I was done, the acting CO told me "you cant go anywhere till I approve it" I called my CO and related said story, who in turn called SGT "wanna be commander" and I never returned to lovely 311
since coming back..9 years clean(lol). I have recieved: 1 LS 2 DCs.(whats the point?)
I agree with the ranks and have spread the gospel, answer calls back each other up and write good paper..if the shit hits the fan and you're there be the police handle it..but dont go looking for trouble..the city and the powers that be will F U if you step on your "dick" at anytime of your life. I have seen it done. to all the young coppers keep this in mind "they wont live forever" (da mayor da sup any boss that wants to hurt you)"stay low-keep moving" here to help and answer any questions New guy?..see me in my office.
Lost In Filly
The officers openly admitted to the innocent error in court! Now they get charged with perjury! Unbelievable.
4/17/2008 03:56:00 PM
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There must be more to the story, that scenario doesn't equal perjury. Not even close
Do the matt retard
Add in the fact that this is an election year we can and will be charged with anything that will move forward some assholes political agenda.
Ever notice where these so called DUI "experts" do all their work?
Always in nice working class areas where people actually have driver's licenses/insurance. NEVER on the hood, where just about everyone behind a wheel is either high or drunk.
As usual in, corrupt Chicago, the working guy gets screwed and the street rat walks.
To all the mopes on here who brag that from now on they will do nothing. Face it boys, thats all you ever did. No change. But don't worry, we'll handle it for you like we always have.
Now go home and tell your kids about how proud of you they should be because you sepnt the day doing nothing and left it up to real police officers to do your job for you.
Yes, it's true Daley is a fool and a crook but he was both before I came on the job so it's no surprise that he still is. And yes, the new Sup. has zero business running a police Dept.
But guess what, my morale is still fine. I'm better than both Daley and Jody. And I do my job, and apparently yours for you, every day. Grow up.
anonymous said...
The officers openly admitted to the innocent error in court! Now they get charged with perjury! Unbelievable.
4/17/2008 03:56:00 PM
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There must be more to the story, that scenario doesn't equal perjury. Not even close
4/18/2008 07:49:00 AM
Not that the media always gets it right, but the Trib story says that the two officers prepared two identical reports (but with different offender info) while deciding which one to charge. You guys who find dope on the ground and flip a coin to decide on who to charge might want to re-think your tactics.
The unfortunate truth:
Everyone knows the few guys in each and every unit who bend the rules. I for one, can't stand these individuals. Can't stand working with them, can't stand that they are CPD. It is pretty funny that they think they are slick and everyone else knows what is going on.
The few that lie through their teeth to milk the overtime, stay down on an assignment, etc. They laugh and joke with everyone, but everyone knows what they are up to. I will never throw accusations their way, but will never feel bad when they are outed and ousted!
To the few guys in each disrict and/or unit: The rest of the guys can't stand that you are within our ranks. Can't stand what you represent, can't stand that you leave the rest of us holding the bag while you have your own personal agenda.
Ironically, it is always these few guys that do all the gossiping and bad mouthing of everyone else. I sit back and watch and laugh that in every district and unit that I have been exposed to it is the lazy, do-nothing, scammers, that cause the most controversy. The working to themself guys, just chuckle to themself. We just hope that we can be left alone to actually DO our job. The few tend to bring attention and heat to everyone around them. IE; no more OT is an order that occurs periodically through the department. Unfortunately, the legit workers only earned OT when absolutely necessary. The abusers, once again, ruin it for everyone. These FEW can destroy a good thing wherever they go. You are only protected by the fact that the rest of us want to mind our own business. We all secretly hope that the Sgt's or above, put a stop to your bullshit.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are one of these guys, cause the rest of us pray that it catches up to you!
Since we seem to so often only hear negative comments from the public, I thought I would share a story of what recently happened to my partner and I. We were eating dinner in a local diner, late in the evening. Contrary to what a lot of people who aren't police think, my partner and I always frequent restaraunts where we do pay for our meals. As we went to the cash register to pay for our meal, we were told by the waitress that it had already been paid for. She pointed to an older gentleman who I would guess to be in his 70's, sitting across the room, who she stated was a retired postal worker. She said he comes in several times a week to have coffee late at night, and everytime he sees police officers eating he pays for their meals. When I started to walk towards him to thank him for his generosity, she stopped me and told me not to thank him. She said he refuses to be thanked. He simply wants to show his appreciation for police officers that no one seems thank anymore. She honestly gave this speech as if she's said it many times before to other police officers. Each time I get discouraged by the public outcry when we simply do our jobs, I remember the time that "true gentleman" thanked me in the best way he saw fit, and I think that there are probably many more like him around this city and country, that we quickly foget about when the public is critizing us for doing our jobs. Much the way the public often forgets about the good police in the department. I'd encourage anyone who has had an experience like mine to share it. I think it's time to hear a few positive posts, rather than all the negative ones.
4/16/2008 12:29:00 PM
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In the short time I worked in the 001st District, I would have the same thing done for me from time to time. Most also wished to remain anonymous. I was appreciative of this and it always made me feel better about my job and the public. That said, these "thank you's" make it that much harder for me when I admit that after 18+ years of working the streets (17 in high crime districts) I am done. I am embarassed to say this, but the Department and City have broken me. I do my job and go home. Coppers like Mike and Dan getting screwed over, along with other incidents, which I have intimite knowledge of but cannot discuss, has for the 1st time, caused me to hang it up. You have no idea how much J-FED and powers that be don't care for us, and will leave us hang out to dry. I have seen it first hand. In one case, the Officers are absolutely RIGHT in their situation, and has been proven repeatedly, but the Department WILL NOT go to bat for them. I am one of many very experienced, very knowledgeable policeman on this job, and I am also another that could be catorgorized as "Active Duty-Retired".
MATT T YOUR NEXT! GUYS START PLANNING THE PARTY AND POSTING IT EVERYWHERE. THANKS
4/17/2008 01:07:00 PM
M.T. aka (PRICK)is a piece of turd. Not only does he not back his own people but forces
old-timers to retire. Have some respect Matty boy. Karma is a bitch. I'll be the first in line to buy your
retirement ticket.
PRICK
To all the mopes on here who brag that from now on they will do nothing. Face it boys, thats all you ever did. No change. But don't worry, we'll handle it for you like we always have.
Now go home and tell your kids about how proud of you they should be because you sepnt the day doing nothing and left it up to real police officers to do your job for you.
Yes, it's true Daley is a fool and a crook but he was both before I came on the job so it's no surprise that he still is. And yes, the new Sup. has zero business running a police Dept.
But guess what, my morale is still fine. I'm better than both Daley and Jody. And I do my job, and apparently yours for you, every day. Grow up.
4/18/2008 11:16:00 AM
You say "Grow up". I say "Open your eyes". Learn to see whats happening and listen to some of the old timers on the job. If you stop flapping your superhero jaws for a moment, you just might learn something.You aren't "Better" than anyone, neither am I.The two you mentioned are the one's in power and control of this dept.Make sure you don't step on your appendage young officer, you may find your heroic work ethic won't save you.
All I know is some years back in the 14th dist a PO> who was President of Mothers Against drunk drivers. Would sit outside the Polish bars and wait for someone to get into his car then stop and DUI him.This officer just made Caption R.B. Can you say juice???
" You can take that to the bank,
You can take that to the bank,
You can take that to the bank"
Not that the media always gets it right, but the Trib story says that the two officers prepared two identical reports (but with different offender info) while deciding which one to charge. You guys who find dope on the ground and flip a coin to decide on who to charge might want to re-think your tactics.
What's your drug of choice? Pot, coke meth? Fuck you and your drug addled brain.
Anonymous said...
"The unfortunate truth:
Everyone knows the few guys in each and every unit who bend the rules. I for one, can't stand these individuals. Can't stand working with them, can't stand that they are CPD"
You are a fucking joke! Maybe it would be best for you to leave the job and go back to your true calling in the pressure cooker fast food industry. People like you on this blog make me sick, and I’m sure others as well. Those like you who never could do the job bitch the most about those of us who can. You mask your own cowardice by backstabbing coppers who go out and legitimately work the streets curb to curb every day. You would have actually had to (I hate to use this word on the blog) “proactively“ worked the street and locked someone up to understand that 150,000 + Gang Members in the city and thousands of drug dealers have no rules other then kill or be killed. Not only are we loosing the battle of the bosses (J-Fed and Da Mayor) but what’s much worse is we are loosing our city. We live here! I have children that have to live here! I have friends and family who live here. Remember one of our own, just last Fall, lost a child to Fucking Gang violence. I have never met the Officer who lost his child but he is my brother and I feel his loss. You whine and bitch about Coppers working hard and making more overtime then you? Here’s your reply: FUCK OFF AND DIE! The job DOES NOT need useless mother fuckers like you! So when it’s time to answer the call, “Shot’s Fired”, Man with an gun”, Person shot” or even a “10-1” The “Real Police” will be heading that way while your running away from it, you fucking coward!
And for those morons who have been writing about the St Jude parade and not going, remember it’s for those we have lost not for the bosses.
Oh one more thing: FUCK OFF AND DIE! Coward.
Former Englewood Ranger
P.S. Coward, if you have anything more to say I for one will be standing proudly at the St Jude Parade with the 008th District. Paying honor to those who have fallen in the line of duty. I’m sure you won’t show up and have better things to do. Those we honor were unlike you, were all running toward trouble when assholes like you are running away.
there is a long line of people to take your seat on the gravy train.
4/17/2008 09:03:00 AM
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You sir, can get in a line with all the other jagoffs that know nothing about what a police officers job entails, bad mouths them, and still enjoys the protection we provide, and KISS MY ASS. I think you know where the line starts.
If you wanna play CPD and post on this site, at least learn how to talk like us.
4/18/2008 01:11:00 AM
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Unfortunately, this goof is a cop. 019 I believe, and possibly is or was an FTO at one point. And he does take his shoes off. At least I heard a story or two from someone that trained in 019 if my memory serves me correct and it sounds exactly like what I heard.
04/19 11:46
"The Unfortunate Truth"
That post was not intended for the actual working PO's, of which there are many. That post was for the FEW that pretend they are working, milk the system, and leave the working PO's to pick up their slack.
If you are a true working PO, then you should be pissed at the FEW that do nothing, but tell their war stories like they are supercops. YOu should be aggravated by the few that attempt and manage (in many cases) to scam the system for actually doing NOTHING.
I am a working PO who has never shied from work, has always responded when needed, have been their to back my brothers in need. I despise the same PO's that you despise, not the actuall working overtime PO's.
Don't get the two confused.
It's much, much more than a few not doing any more work than absolutely required son. Obviously you're fairly new or you'd know the difference between a police force laying down and one hustling to please. There are serious, important reasons for it (no work) and you'd be wise to pay heed.
Anonymous said...
If you wanna play CPD and post on this site, at least learn how to talk like us.
4/18/2008 01:11:00 AM
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Unfortunately, this goof is a cop. 019 I believe, and possibly is or was an FTO at one point. And he does take his shoes off. At least I heard a story or two from someone that trained in 019 if my memory serves me correct and it sounds exactly like what I heard.
4/19/2008 03:49:00 PM
There was an FTO in 019,NP that used to take his shoes off inthe car.
To: The unfortunate truth:
Everyone knows the few guys in each and every unit who bend the rules. I for one, can't stand these individuals. Can't stand working with them, can't stand that they are CPD. It is pretty funny that they think they are slick and everyone else knows what is going on.
I must commend you your words. You are right in everything you wrote. Thank God we still have police officers that think like you.
Be safe in 008!!!
Filmore Ranger
To all the mopes on here who brag that from now on they will do nothing. Face it boys, thats all you ever did. No change. But don't worry, we'll handle it for you like we always have.
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Good post and your right. So much whining and bitching on this blog!!!
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