Alert the Area 2 Gun Team!
Interesting tidbit that might be fodder for a Search Warrant:
- A peculiar ordinance (attached) was introduced by Dick Mell at the last City Council meeting. It reads:
Notwithstanding any provision in the Municipal Code to the contrary, if both of the following conditions are met:
1. An application for renewal of a firearm registration certificate pursuant to Article II of Chapter 8-20 of the Municipal Code has been submitted to the Superintendent of Police ("Superintendent") between May 1, 2007 and April 1, 2008, inclusive; and
2. Such renewal application was rejected by the Superintendent solely on the grounds that it was untimely; then such renewal application may be resubmitted to the Superintendent within 30 days after the passage of this ordinance, and the Superintendent shall accept such resubmission if received by him within said 30-day period, and shall process it as if it had been timely submitted.
Why would Dick Mell introduce an ordinance that requires the Police Department to accept late gun registration renewals? Because Dick Mell has an arsenal of guns that he forgot to register and has possessed illegally in the City for several years.
About a year ago, Mell submitted an application to register a gun. Gun Registration rejected it because Mell had bought the gun several years before and this was the first time he was applying to register it. He then realized that he (or someone on his staff) had forgotten to re-register his other 12 guns - shotguns, rifles, and pistols, including a Walther PPK, the favorite of James Bond. So he submitted renewals for those guns, which Gun Registration also rejected. Because he failed to renew the registration of all these guns, he's possessed them illegally for several years. And because he failed to renew the registration, under the gun ordinance, he can't ever register these guns in Chicago again.
Phone calls were made at the highest levels to find a way around this pesky ordinance. The cops in Gun Registration stood their ground. So Mell filed an appeal at the Dept of Ka-Ching - I mean, Administrative Hearings. The case has been continued a couple of times for phone calls to be made to the Corporation Counsel, but alas, he's had no luck there either. His lawyer tried the argument that an alderman is a peace officer who can carry a gun, but nobody's buying that one. At the next hearing - this Tuesday, May 20, at 1:30 pm - it's expected that Mell's lawyer will ask to continue the case until after the June 11 City Council meeting, at which this ordinance will get passed, and Mell can register his arsenal again.
So having failed to comply with the law, and being unable to find a way around the law, Mell is just going to change the law.
Interesting that Dick Mell creates a loophole for himself when everyone else is whining about tightening up loopholes. Bet you'll never see the papers cover this story.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
66 Comments:
Hypocracy, thy name is alderman.
Tell him not to worry. As soon as the Supreme Court shoots down D.C.'s ban, ours is out the window as well. Then we can practice our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms despite what Da Mare thinks about guns. Heh, heh, heh.
Just keep in mind that the injustice isn't that Mell gets to bring his guns back into legal compliance. The injustice is that every other law-abiding citizen gets screwed for messing up a bunch of paperwork that means nothing and makes no one safer.
I lost my Registration to my snub in a flood. No big deal I thought. Called gun registration. Was informed that lots of registrations we lost due to a computer problem.
Anyone else had this problem??
business as usual
So having failed to comply with the law, and being unable to find a way around the law, Mell is just going to change the law.
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Don't those a-hole cops know that there are TWO SETS OF LAWS already??!!
hey, why not ?
anything is possible in the peoples republic of chicago.
if you can do a school principal like that why not an alderman.......or a policeman.
Why not let"Moprah" ,Jesse Jr and his "Media Whore" daddy know about this! Sure nothing will come of it,because they won't be able to report it or pimp the press ,but it could still be good for "sh*ts and giggles"!!
I bet now that you posted this on SCC, either the Sun Times or the Tribune will be doing a story on it!
Bet you ass on it!
wow. now that is 'investigative journalism'... an art lost long ago. and another real story was broken here. its too bad the media doesnt know how to do their job as well as an off duty cop does.
hmmmmmm....
So now will there be a period of time when citizens can register their guns?
Dick "Rambo" Mell. I like the sound of that.
Why does this not surprise me at all?
hopefully he will soon be convicted with his son in law and will be unable to vote or process a fire arm.
I hope he catches a nice indictment before the holidays, the arrogant pompous basxxxx.
Question for the legal minds of SCC: IF he's (mell) is allowed to register his guns, doesn't that create a precedent for others to register thier guns also?
Just asking
I will never in my life forget the sight of him dancing on his desk at city hall. Flailing his arms over his head and screaming and laughing. He looked like satan.
I'm surprise you support the enforcement of this bullshit registration law. Would anyone here actually enforce the registration law against a law abiding citizen?
The real police should kick in that MoFo's door and drag him off to jail.
So now will there be a period of time when citizens can register their guns?
Only if you had the foresight to attempt to file between May of 2007 and this past April.
There had been talks a couple of years ago of a true gun amnesty, giving citizens one shot for their registerable handguns and rifles (e.g. not anything banned under the new Cook ordinance.
Daley hated the idea, and nothing came of it.
No, there won't be any precedent, because he's actually changing the law. The only loophole for anyone else is if someone else was denied *solely* for not being "timely" in that timeframe. The only person I can think of is a guy who goes by the name "Federal Farmer" online, who was told he couldn't register his CMP rifle because he was two weeks too late (not years, weeks, Mell!)
Mell's a gun nut? Boy, that must be a sore spot between him and his liberal son-in-law. I can just picture Mell explaining to blago
at the Thanksgiving table, while holding his M-1 carbine, how to convert it to an M-2.
No wonder those 2 dont get along...
Sounds like its guns only for the elite! This city's part of a democracy?
Anonymous said...
DON'T TAKE THE POWER TEST FOR THE M-4'S.
IF NOBODY SHOWS UP TO TAKE THE TEST MEANS THEY'LL HAVE TO ARM US WITH THEM ANYWAY. (IF THE UNION DIDN'T SELL US OUT)
BESIDES THIS DEPT. DOESN'T HAVE ANY FOR THE PEOPLE IN PATROL. SWAT HAS THEM. YOU'D BE AN IDIOT TO WASTE YOUR TIME FOR SOMETHING THEY DON'T HAVE.
JUST TAKE THE TEST ONCE A YEAR TO COLLECT THE MEASLEY BONUS.
IF NO ONE TAKES THE POWER TEST JUST FOR THE M-4, WE MIGHT JUST GET THEM HANDED TO US.
OR... IF IT'S APPROVED AS AN ALTERNATE ON-DUTY FIREARM, I WOULD BY MY M-4 OWN (on the Lay-a-way plan) AND QUALIFLY EVER YEAR JUST LIKE I DO WITH MY OWN ON-DUTY SIDE ARM. (That way when I retire I take it with me.)
I COULD USE MY UNIFORM ALLOWANCE TO PAY FOR IT.
Great investigative story SCC, where did you unearth this tid-bit? Once again, these over-paid, irresponsible, clouted alderwhores continue to pull fast ones over everyone, including the judicial system. He's just as bad as his son-i-law, Blago-boy.
Why are these people continually voted into office is beyond me.
Wouldn't it be better for people to have their guns registered than not? Would the Chicago police prefer that people like Mell just dump their guns somewhere if they can't get them legally registered?
He who make the law,breaks them.
Anonymous said...
Tell him not to worry. As soon as the Supreme Court shoots down D.C.'s ban, ours is out the window as well. Then we can practice our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms despite what Da Mare thinks about guns. Heh, heh, heh.
5/19/2008 12:43:00 AM
Hooza.....Hooza.....Hooza!!
Why would any good red blooded American want to or have to register a gun. This is un-constitutional. Fuck you socialist assholes at city hall, police hdqts, county building, gov. office etc. You all should be in jail.
As you know, the U.S. Supreme Court has granted certiorari to hear the case involving the draconian gun laws in D.C. (as well as Daley's Chicago).
In an unrelated event, the Supreme Court just upheld the laws banning the dissemination of child pornography in a 7-2 decision with Justices GINSBURG and SOUTER dissenting.
How can these two "jurists" not condemn "kiddie porn"?
It must be nice when every time you hit a roadblock in life to be able to legislate your way out of it. By the way, the REAL emergency phone number is 9-1-2.
Hell that is not even as bad as our top leader, J-Fed, not registering his guns!!!
But yet he will go around and back door a copper (ie- Cozzi) and make sure he throws everything at him.
The Area 2 gun Team ought to look at Jody boy and his papers, or lack of them in this case, real good. Do these gun grabbers have balls that big???
Where is the scum times now? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Once again, one set of rules for the politicians (who are suppose to serve to public) and another set of rules for the public.
I lost my Registration to my snub in a flood. No big deal I thought. Called gun registration. Was informed that lots of registrations we lost due to a computer problem.
Anyone else had this problem??
5/19/2008 01:36:00 AM
Uh, nice try Mr. Mell.
You whiny f'n bastards, leave this civil servant alone. He should be able to register his guns in a timely manner and not waste so much time on this issue. The more time he wastes on this, the less time he has to advance my career.
Signed,
Incompitunt Clout Baby and futur exempt.
You know what? If there is a story Mell's attitude will be big deal, so what and nothing will happen to him. If it was Joe Nobody they'd have all those guns confiscated in a New York minute. The media is chickenshit. These politicians are only powerful because they get the media and the public to buy into their well manicured image of being untouchable.
I own 25 guns and live in a state that requires NO FOID cards & NO registration . FUCK Mel, he should be put in JAIL ! Go get J-Fed , It's your JOB to arrest him and if you don't , your a fuckin' PUSSY !
Do as we say, not as we do!
After all, WE run things. Just do as your told.
Your Friends:
Lil dick daley
Smirking todd stroger
Soon to be Ex gov. Blago.
J-Fraud
And again, thanks for voting democRAT
who ever is signing on as mary a. mitchell that's is one funny profile picture. I almosted pissed my pants
I'm surprise you support the enforcement of this bullshit registration law. Would anyone here actually enforce the registration law against a law abiding citizen?
we don't support it. we don't try to be the Area 2 Gun Team kicking in doors of otherwise law abiding citizens. However, isn't it the height of hypocrisy that Mell keeps a so-called "arsenal" around while denying citizens the same right? And when he fails to maintain his registrations, he attempts to change an entire law for the sole purpose of making his arsenal legal once again while everyone else in the City must submit to being disarmed?
Anonymous said...
DON'T TAKE THE POWER TEST FOR THE M-4'S.
Too late, my friend. many gang and tac teams have passed the test and started or completed the training. No one complains, they are in shape already. Most want the opportunity to carry M-4. You would be surprised at the demand.
Burke wants us to lift tails of dogs and mell wants us to ignore unregistered weapons. I am so proud of Chicago aldermen. What is Daley's response to unregistered weapons held by a alderman? Two sets of laws and rules. Those with clout survive.
Let my uneducated ass get this right! The alderclowns are "peace officers" they made the law so they can carry a gun, but never qualify! Ok so far! Then when eddie burke is being driven he has 2 drivers and himself he is really riding 3 deep? Why is it he needs 2 valets when he is armed also? Why is he so scared? Guess he needs the police spec crown vic for "free parking" looks like patti blago mels daughter has stolen how much with bullshit real estate deals? Daddy mell owns a big company and has millions helped old ged rod become govenor then rod forgot daddy richie mell and tried to have his daughter patti not talk to daddy ever again another soap opera? Lets hope they go to jail soon!
a/2 gun team= pussies...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
DON'T TAKE THE POWER TEST FOR THE M-4'S.
Too late, my friend. many gang and tac teams have passed the test and started or completed the training. No one complains, they are in shape already. Most want the opportunity to carry M-4. You would be surprised at the demand.
5/19/2008 04:55:00 PM
I got another hoop for you to jump through. Now go jump off of that bridge.
Gullible
Naive
Follower
who ever is signing on as mary a. mitchell that's is one funny profile picture. I almosted pissed my pants
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I almost lost my coffee this morning when I saw the pic on Shaved's blog... funnier then hell
The only problem with the gun ordinance is that it has to be done every year, I have better things to do than to try to remember to register my duty guns. I think once is enough. No wonder no one registers their gun in the city. Plus you have to be a gunsmith to answer the question on the application.
WOULD BE A GREAT TIME FOR THE FEDS TO ISSUE A WARRANT TO SEARCH FOR GUNS.
What does an Alderman need so many Firearms for?
FBI, where are you?????
Anonymous said...
DON'T TAKE THE POWER TEST FOR THE M-4'S.
Too late I already passed it. It was easy. But that might be because I stay in shape because I care about my health.
But I know why you are telling others to not take it. You know that you can't pass it and then we will know that you didn't pass the test to carry one. Don't worry we already know that you are out of shape and useless
If I had an idiot like that as a son-in law,I'd be well armed too.
Well, I don't know who made the decision to deny him, but whoever did it took some BIG BALLS. I'd work for that guy/gal anyday. Let's see if whoever's in charge over at Gun Reg. gets the old heave ho now because he/she didn't play ball with the politicians.
Do as we say, not as we do!
After all, WE run things. Just do as your told.
Your Friends:
Lil dick daley
Smirking todd stroger
Soon to be Ex gov. Blago.
J-Fraud
And again, thanks for voting democRAT
5/19/2008 04:23:00 PM
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are too fucking funny, but oh so true!!!!!!!!!
I got another hoop for you to jump through. Now go jump off of that bridge.
Gullible
Naive
Follower
5/19/2008 05:17:00 PM
Truth does hurt. Come on down to academy and watch the training. There is a waiting list. I do not care but there are many that are in shape and want the training. Now go back in your basement apt before mom notices you gone.
Hopefully the Supreme Court is soon going to launch all this City Ordinance stuff as unconstitutional anyway.
dont forget dorthy tilmon still has her piece and she is not an alderman anymore.
LOCK HER ASS UP AREA 1
Thinking I was doing mankind, and SCC, a favor, I passed this tidbit of information on to a few reporters at the Sun Times whose emails are readily available. Got a response from one that I was too late as SCC had already sent his posting to him/her and that Frannie was writing an article. Interesting.
Thinking I was doing mankind, and SCC, a favor, I passed this tidbit of information on to a few reporters at the Sun Times whose emails are readily available. Got a response from one that I was too late as SCC had already sent his posting to him/her and that Frannie was writing an article. Interesting.
The e-mail we got had a whole bunch of names in it who had refused to touch it, including Fran's as Fran is a wholly owned subsidiary of Daley Incorporated. So Fran had this info weeks ago from the same source we got it from. We just beat her to the punch - again.
We don't give anyone, least of all Fran, tips. They steal it from here, same as Frank, Sneed and others
We don't give anyone, least of all Fran, tips. They steal it from here, same as Frank, Sneed and others
5/20/2008 06:38:00 AM
Add Stella to the list. See today's column on the mtg with J-Fed
Anonymous said... 5/19/2008 06:46:00 PM
WOULD BE A GREAT TIME FOR THE FEDS TO ISSUE A WARRANT TO SEARCH FOR GUNS.
What does an Alderman need so many Firearms for?
FBI, where are you?????
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And the federal law relative to firearm possession that is being violated is...???
Just another case of "Do as we say, not as we do"....
All of us in this city are equal.....some are just more equal than others.....
"Truth does hurt. Come on down to academy and watch the training. There is a waiting list. I do not care but there are many that are in shape and want the training."
EXACTLY.95% of those that want the training have NEVER been to a FOP Meeting,& could care less about the current state of their expired contract.
It's plain to see what their true priorities are. EGO Trumps family welfare& well being everytime!!
My freind's father grew up in Holland during WWII. His father owned a gun and registered it as required with the local Police. When the Germans invaded, they seized the Police records and shipped his father off to a camp, never to be seen again. There is only one reason to register guns, and that is to have a list available so as to eventually take them away from people. Mel is an asshole, but so is Daley. I'll never register any of my guns except for my duty/off duty weapons. I cant wait till the DC law is tossed out.
Never register your guns period.
Anonymous said...
I got another hoop for you to jump through. Now go jump off of that bridge.
Gullible
Naive
Follower
5/19/2008 05:17:00 PM
Truth does hurt. Come on down to academy and watch the training. There is a waiting list. I do not care but there are many that are in shape and want the training. Now go back in your basement apt before mom notices you gone.
5/19/2008 09:53:00 PM
You must have about 3 to 5 yrs on the job.
This is not about being in shape. I'm in good shape for being 45 yrs old and still have all my hair. This is about giving up your right to being properly armed without having to preform a "doggie show". I too, want better equipment, but if you give in too easily there wouldn't be any room for negotiations. The minute you signed up for the opportunity to carry an M4, you also signed up for future failure (10,15 yrs down the line). There will be a day that you won't pass the test and then you'll have to give up the weapon. This type of weapon should and needs to be standard issue. Nobody has to be "in shape" to carry and use the M4. You need to be proficient in operation of the weapon and able to demonstrate that. If you give the city an inch they will take a mile. So go ahead and wait for your turn in line for the weapon that the city won't give you. (because it's not in the budget...just like everything else) Stop by Equipment and Supply and ask how many M-4's (m-16's) are available for the troops.
Are there any in the radio room?
I used to qualify annually for the shotgun. No power test needed. Only twice in 13 yrs, I had to sign one out. I gave up qualifying 3 years ago. The .40 and .45 cal came along. I didn't need to take a power test for that either. I've worked in the ghettos and participated in numerous search warrants all over the city. If anything, we should have more shotguns. They're definately more effective and noticable. I've seen first hand what kind of awesome damage to the human body the shotgun can do with one shot.
P.S. Go to an FOP meeting and discuss this. See you there.
This is a little history lesson. The founding fathers wanted gun registration but for a different reason then confiscation. They wanted it for the militia/citizen army. They wanted to know who was armed with what. It was needed for home/civil defense. Unfortunately it can be used for illegal seizures. The writers of the constitution feared a tyrannical government more than anything else and an armed populace prevents that. It is a double-edge sword. End
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