The Meeting
D-Day:
- May 14 @ 7pm in the 35 & Michigan multi-purpose room.
We've debated here over the past day and we've come to a sort of consensus on this event. It would be better to show up than to boycott. Because by not showing up, J-Fed can claim he made the effort to reach out and was rebuffed. If everyone shows up AND hammers him with questions, we can prove our theory that he's nothing but a puppet and it's business as usual with the Mayor pulling all the strings.
So, how to approach the upcoming meeting? We know the conspiracy buffs have been active in the comments, pointing out that everyone needs to present ID to attend, that only patrol officers can attend, that much of the FOP leadership will be unavailable in Washington DC for this meeting, and that the entire media room is wired for sound and pictures.
We feel that the FOP really ought to be taking some sort of lead in this, gathering questions and designating some person in authority to present these questions in a formal manner since it isn't really a big leap to say that the political powers will put a brick the size of Manhattan on anyone who questions them too aggressively. Any of the inside FOP guys would be good as they can't be moved. Bella would be ideal.
We hereby offer this comment section to post any question that might come to mind and then the FOP or some KMA member who doesn't really give a fuck because he's happy working midnights in Area 2 can ask it at the meeting. And more importantly, the questioner can demand a realistic answer. "I don't know" or "I'll get back to you" isn't a legit answer. Once J-Fed or Aunt Bea says those words, you know for a fact it's a bullshit meeting with only one purpose - smokescreen.
SCC's #1 question:
So, how to approach the upcoming meeting? We know the conspiracy buffs have been active in the comments, pointing out that everyone needs to present ID to attend, that only patrol officers can attend, that much of the FOP leadership will be unavailable in Washington DC for this meeting, and that the entire media room is wired for sound and pictures.
We feel that the FOP really ought to be taking some sort of lead in this, gathering questions and designating some person in authority to present these questions in a formal manner since it isn't really a big leap to say that the political powers will put a brick the size of Manhattan on anyone who questions them too aggressively. Any of the inside FOP guys would be good as they can't be moved. Bella would be ideal.
We hereby offer this comment section to post any question that might come to mind and then the FOP or some KMA member who doesn't really give a fuck because he's happy working midnights in Area 2 can ask it at the meeting. And more importantly, the questioner can demand a realistic answer. "I don't know" or "I'll get back to you" isn't a legit answer. Once J-Fed or Aunt Bea says those words, you know for a fact it's a bullshit meeting with only one purpose - smokescreen.
SCC's #1 question:
- Define "merit" and how mere mortals can strive to reach "career goals" so that we too, might one day be deserving of a promotion that doesn't involve bloodlines, birthright or brown envelopes of cash to aldercreatures.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
177 Comments:
CAPS IS ABOUT A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY.
Well 13 years ago we had beat cars, rapid cars, sector cars, district wide cars, 2 WAGONS, watch guys in plain clothes, hospital cars, park cars, guys in the parks, and tact and gang teams that were detailed out occasionally, guys at the hospitals, foot men who knew their beats and people. ESSENTIALLY WE WERE COMMUNITY POLICEING.
Now we have Beat cars, occasional rapids(which are detailed out) , no tact, gang cause their detailed out, no foot men, 1 park car for a district, no hospital cars, and no foot men who know their areas.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT COMMUNITY POLICEING DISAPPEARED WHEN YOU GAVE IT A TITLE AND MADE IT AN ENTITY UNTO ITSELF.
COMMUNITY POLICE MEANS PUT POLICE IN THE COMMUNITY, NOT SATURATE A COMMUNITY AT SPECIFIC HOURS. BACK TO THE BASICS IS WHAT WE NEED. MORE PATROL DIVISION MANPOWER.
#1-put suggestion boxes in every roll call in each district. yeah, I know some of them that get dropped in the box will be bullshit venting, but then some would be very informative and ideas that would better the department. I only say this because we all know that when you speak up and gripe about something, you have to worry about the reveng factor from the wc and dc. Let J-Fed or his immediates have the only keys.
#2-the bullshit number of 13,500. lets here the truth. we all know it's well under 10,000 officers. Also, if the city is budgeted for 13,500 and we only have say 9,400, where is all that money going that isnt spent on actual officers?
#3-contracts! the city and the department continually waist money on bullshit but never ever pays the troops a decent wage let alone on time. WTF!. Why can't we get interest that OUR money is collecting without a contract, hmmm.
#4-Stop with the physical fitness bullshit. what little percentage of coppers that actually do all the work, maybe 1/3 would pass the power test, do you really want to be the cause of the downfall of this depart j-fed?
#5-J-fed, Are you going to squeeze your eyes together, open them and actually see who you have in supervisory positions on this job. OMG - I'm so fucking embaressed and disgusted who's barking orders and calling the shots. shame shame.
#6-Start doing something about the broken judicial system in cook county which includes your town dumbass. They are half the problem why crime is so bad. Go to a pc courtroom felony and misdemeanor one day and listen and see what goes on, then if you're still consious, go to 26 call for the day and see all the cases thrown out, plea bargend down to next to nothing and findings of not guilty from judges like Fleming and many others.
#7-by all means, STOP disarming police officers when they go to certain courts. you're putting us all in harms way. We're not in the early 70's anymore. Get with the times. Open your eyes to what goes on at these courts and who's supposed to be protecting all of us.
i got one which hand does the stuttering prick have up your ass(weis) to pull the string. But seriously. How many more new positions are you (Weis) going to create for your feeb buddies. Second question when am i going to get a one of those new computers been waiting for 4 years but thats ok give a m-4 so i can get the right name out of the mope. anyway i digress and scratch that question id only use it to place my bag of flaming hot cheetos as i wright paper no more box one for me.
P.S. for the guys that do go don't drink the Kool-aid
I was hoping that the new Superintendant would have done something like the following: Go to roll call in a fast district on the 3rd or 1st Watch. and introduce himself to P.O. &**(*&. " I 'm Jody and tonight I m your partner. For the next 8 1/2 Hrs I m going to depend on you to get me home. I want to learn what you deal with ever night.I have never done this before. And after he did that in 3, 4, 7 11, 10, 15 25 14....
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14? 14 doesn't rank up there with those other districts in terms of ghetto busy. It isn't busy like that anymore. You must work in 14 and want to believe you work in a busy district. You forgot 5 and 6.
Why are we still adhering to the antiquated POWER test? Departments across the county have had job analysis conducted and have tests that actually reflect police work... for example, Naperville is hiring, and their test, in lieu of the POWER, tests 1. speed exiting a vehicle while seatbelted....2. abaility to drag 160 pounds dead weight out of a vehicle 60 feet.... and 3. abaility to scale a 6 foot barrier (chain link fence type).....
What is the correlation between the POWER test and shooting a rifle?
What is "merit"
Why does it take 6 months for a scan tron test to be graded? When I was in college it was graded on the way out the door directly after completing the test....
why are college kids grading our essays?
why does it take 6 months for a graded essay?
Why does a disproportionate percentage of promotees come from headquarters?
Why does NAGIS accept applications yet never, ever call for interviews unless you happen to be 'connected'?
Why does the press still believe we have 13,500 policemen?
Why can't I qualify with a greater variety of brands and calibers?
Why do I have to qualify with my 45, my 9, my alternate 9, and my snubby? Couldn't I qualify once with a semi auto and once with a revolver, and spend the rest of the time, I dunno, practicing rather than wasting dept ammo on qualifying?
Why can't we carry tazers?
Why can't I get a functioning radio- one that works INSIDE a building or UNDER ground, in the El, which are SOFT TARGETS for terrorists?
Why can't Sgts have radios that monitor the FIRE dispatch?
Can't we at least get batteries that work? Maybe
Can't we at least get pdt's that work some of the time?
Why are we spending top dollar on blinkey cameras that statistically do NOTHING...
Why does my car have 130,000 miles on it?
Where did the pool cars go?
Why are we not backed up HQ in the press?
How do you intend to improve morale?
Why do you care if I get so drunk in my backyard that I vomit on my shoes off duty?
WHY DOES THE DEPT ALLOW IPRA TO CIRCUMVENT THE SWORN AFFIDAVIT PROCESS BY ISSUING LOG #'S INSTEAD OF CR#'S? Do you believe this is good faith?
Where is our contract?
Why are we still working 6 days in a row?
If the Mayor is investigated by the Feds, does this present a conflict of interest for you, a former Fed?
Why hold this meeting in a room at hq that is outfitted with microphones and cameras? Why not pop into roll call instead?
Why am I bothering to type this at all?
Why does the department refuse to prosecute those who commit perjury in that they sign an affidavit that is proven a lie during the course of a CR investigation? Why are these people not treated equally as a PO in the matter of perjury from the department's view?
or something along those lines
What has the department asked of the civic leaders and "reverends" to help "bridge the gap" between the police and their community? There have been sweeping changes within our department as a reaction to a public outcry; and as numbers are telling us although the everyday interaction between the police and community members has changed (because the average PO has resorted to reactive policing and frankly doesnt care)the community behavior has not changed one bit. In fact, it has only gotten worse. So what is expected of the community and when can we expect to see it?
why is it recently reported Peoples gas increase rates of 6% ComEd increased rates by 6% groceries on average are increased from 6%-13% gasoline is up exponentially the City recently increased my water bill by around 6% my property taxes are going up at least 6% and yet, the City's contract offer for cost of living expenses sits at 1.1% This is a major factor in the low morale. We as POs are living check to check more than ever and what the City is offering is essentially a pay cut. Do you, Jody, plan on going to bat for us and advocating for us to the Mayor that we need the pay raise we are asking for?
if a PO had a long history of drug use, domestics, brutality, murder, rule 14s, rule 15s, non working, bleeding the medical, not paying his bills, nor taking parental responsibilities, showing up to work only when ordered to by the courts, living for free in the station and then bitching constantly about the conditions would you take up sides with him/her over the rest of your rank and file??? So then why did you... oh never mind, you get it
why do you look so weird?
I nominate Cooter!
Will you please watch this Obama documentary and get back to us.. Again, Scc, I ask you to make a link... it is phenomenal! Remember, JUST WORDS! But seriously, please watch
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?RsrcID=2036
Only Patrol? Does anyone know why? Is he afraidto get all the unhappy campers at one time? When did this come out? If a PO works outside of patrol does that mean he can't go?
"The Box Chevy Phantom" says...
1. Merit for those who have put
their time in AND have
demonstrated the overall
knowledge, mentoring/coaching
& leadership ability and work
ethic (SGT. minimum 15 yoj,
DIC. minimum 10 yoj).
2. Prosecution and jail time for
bogus c/r#'s, aggrieved officer
entitled to 6 months to one
year of pay or compensatory
time.
3. Disciplinary action against
IPRA and IAD investigators
and their supervisors for
failure to conduct timely
investigations or tampering/
witholding exonorating
evidence.
4. Cease and desist against the
Department using c/register #'s
to circumvent sworn affidavit
law. (Unfounded means just
that, not "we'll hold on to
this to use it against you
later").
5. The bargaining agreement in
regard to rights of the member-
ship is inviolate. Any member
whose contractual rights are
breached by the City,
Department or any agent thereof
whether by omission or
commission should compensated
for their grief & aggravation
and legal/punitive sanction
sought against the aggrieving
party.
6. Health insurance is way too
expensive for active members.
7. Manpower issues.
8. 10 hour days = an hour for
lunch. 12 hour day is
unconscionable.
9. Equipment issues, deathtrap
cars and chirping radios etc.
10. Stipend for living in the city,
say for example $5k to take the
edge off the property taxes we
pay since we're in indentured
servitude to the City and are
compelled to live here.
Just a few grenades, would love to see a few exempts gag on their morning coffee when they read this...
"pea soup green box chevy..."
Mr. Jody, A history lesson 4 u. When the CPD first came up with the so called merit program they came up with the line (lie) some people just don't test well but they would make excellent supervisors. The great minds of the CPD or city hall decided those made by the merit system did not even have to take the promotional exam. That did not sit well with the troops,and it made no sense at all, unless clout was a factor, so it was change to they only had to take the first part of a two part exam. Thats right even to this day a so called merit person only is required to take the first part of a two part exam. The first part is really a pass fail exam. So if you do not take the second part of the exam how in the hell does anyone know you are a poor test taker? History again Mr Jody your Department almost appointed a Sgt. to Lt. even though the good Sergeant failed the Lt. test. If he had not told anyone he had failed the test he would be a merit Lt today. By the way Mr. Jody on WLS radio you said you know of FBI people who do not test well but became excellent supervisors. Did Mr. mayor tell you to say that? I have talked to FBI Agents, who state the FBI does not test to promote. So if the FBI does not test for promotions how do you know who was a poor test taker? Last will you tell us of those who did not take the second part of any CPD exam, how many of them were promoted.
Id like to ask why I must identify myself, when:
#1, I drive a big white car that says"Chicago Police" with flashing blue lights, loud ass horn, and a siren.
#2, I wear a blue uniform, with a patch that states "Chicago Police", a name tag with my name on it, and a star with my number on it.
If they can't figure that I'm the Police by this point, do you realy think they should be driving?
Oh, but what about people from out of town? What, they don't have the Police where they are from?
someone ask this guy where it says in the BILL OF RIGHTS or anywhere else for that matter in the UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION that once you become a chicago police officer you are not allowed to enjoy a few alcoholic beverages OFF DUTY as long as you ARE NOT BREAKING ANY LAWS, and if you do enjoy yourself a little too much you are AUTOMATICALLY STRIPPED and POSSIBLY FIRED. now i'm not talking about driving drunk, or starting fights, or ATTEMPTING to beat up a female bartender. if you break the law you should be held accountable. i'm talking about if you are minding your own business hanging out with a few friends and someone attacks you and you become the VICTIM OF A CRIME, where is it written that you are AUTOMATICALLY GUILTY AND HAVE NO RIGHTS! if joe the plumber gets beat up at a bar and he's been drinking do the police make him blow to see if he's drunk? no! is joe the plumbers job in jeopardy? no! STOP TREATING SOCIETY'S PROTECTORS AS SECOND CLASS CITIZENS!
Won't be able to make it... Damn, this is one I wish I could be at. Furlough, and flying out of state in a few hours.
Can someone please, pretty please, pretty please with sugar on top, ask him how in the hell he got this job?
He have Picts of Da Mayor and his girlfriend? Got Da Mayor on tape with "Vinny, Vito, Ant'ny, an da rest of da crew"? Were we that close to the Feds taking recievership? JFed and Maggie gettin' it on? Got video of all the aldermen and half of the old bosses at that "secret club"?
Just how in the hell did he get the job?
He's the Supt of the Chicago Police and what else? Dosent he have 2 jobs for that $310k? Sure looks like he's been doing only half of what he should be doing... Maby he should get half his pay....
SCC, great point about putting up someone in the KMA club! The old point of "I'm on 1st watch in 003/005/007/010, what else can they do to me?" Guess what; someone, somewhere, will find a way to fuck you! (unless you retire!)
The real police are voting with their feet and are leaving in droves. This city will go down if the powers that be fail to let the police be the police. Cops are leaving with just 10 yrs on the job.Nobody will want this job! It is a political system in which the politicaly connected or the 31 flavors of the gay lewsbian my mommy was a boss I have plastic boobs minority hockey marine cook club get promoted on Merit and not on knowledge or experience. Dont do Shit boys and girls and the whole system will crash once and for all.
What is the purpose of a merit promtion, and why would the department want to punish an employee who scored well enough to get promoted, only to be passed over by an employee who did not have the talent, or desire to prepare themselsves enough to score high, thus getting promoted legitimately. This affects officers in more than one way.
For example, the present Sgt list, there have been only 35 (??) officers taken from the list. There have been 50 P.O. promoted to Sgt., giving a total of 15 merit. Why should 36-50 on the list be punished and lose the senority that the merit Sgt.'s have? And let's face it, most of the merits were beyond the point of promotion by rank in order. If they were high enough on the list, they would have been told to wait, and not burn the favor.
Please respond, and eliminate the merit promotions.
can you please tell me why when you finally open a bid to a desirable unit after our contracts have been violated by way too many clout only management placements to a unit like Ohare ...the bid is put out Friday evening late,so the least amount of people will know of this and then claim the bid won by a person detailed for over a year prior to bid open.. excuses can u lay out for this ?, it....so question is.....will the contracts regarding transfers ever be legit, can the end runs around the bids stop being slipped thru...wink wink by union reps who are clearly not on top of the endless 90 day only details....oh yes rumor has it this will be addressed very soon....we have a very full page of people detailed for eternity from ourunit....don't even think of denying us time due...can you address these two issues or are you as confused as the fat Phil hucksters pretended to be.......sincerely Old School
Ask J-Fed how come 11th Ward clout fucks like Keating have made high rank. Ask why he disposed of so many years of valuable police experience and what is the real story behind the dumping of his new chief of staff.
And of course, the City claimed the reason why our contract negotiations were going slow was the lack of a Superintendent. Now that the new Superintendent is in place those same negotiations have slowed down even more. Why is this?
Does J-Fed know how fucked up morale is among the rank and file? Does he know or care that so many officers, young and old, no longer give a fuck and do the bare minimum to get through the day so they can see the station in their rear view mirror as swiftly as possible?
I will do my part to avoid getting indicted or stripped of my police powers: little or nothing. Ask J-Fed about that, how does he feel that so many of his officers have that attitude.
I wonder if the media will be allowed in? Big deal a room that will hold maybe 800 people what if 3000 show up OOOPPPPs what do we do now?
Biggest Question?
What about a contract, where is it?
The Merit Promotions is a great one, totally unanswerable.
Why not limit the merit promotions to patrol officers assigned field duties in the patrol bureau. NO HOUSE CATS.
MANPOWER. How many people actually WORK in district law. Not assigned and then detailed out to skew the numbers. But actually work the field by district. List them, give them to the public embarass the Mayor, you have a contract they cant fire you, GROW A PAIR if you can dont be a wimp stand up to the little gut on the 5th floor if you want to get the mens respect show you respect them and the job they do.
Did clinme have these meetings? Of course not! Was Cline the best? No! But at least he was the police! Just what i want to do stand up in front of the fed who is on a witch hunt to reopen anything to fire/indict coppers and I want to talk to him and bea! WTF are you out of your mind to "trust them"? Sorry I want to keep my job and location for now, and want my pension! So my answer simply put is NO!
Question #2 In the current method of testing for promotions, why isn’t the score from the first part of the test (tests for comprehension and knowledge of general orders/procedures, etc) not included with the second portion (essay questions) score to give a final score for ranking people without clout? Wouldn’t you want a better rounded supervisor that actually knew department general orders and was proficient in the scenarios given?
I know the real reason why they rank the test takers from the essay questions score only because they can fudge the essay portion score and you cannot do anything about the scantron portion because either you got it right or you got it wrong and it would be somewhat fair.
Ohh! I have a question mr. Supt! How can a female officer make d-2 pay working on midnights at midway while all the others make d-1? Strangely we are short of fto's but she with her clout making fto pay can stay wherever she wants! Why is she not put out as an fto? You want the pay you should do that job correct?
Here's the meeting:
12 hours days will make evrything good. (can you imagine working 12 hours in Englewood, or 4, 11? 10 hours would be better but LA has 12, so....)
Having long guns will make you happy. (do you have to pass a power test to get one?0
They're looking at the merit process. (Will he give specifics? What does merit mean now?)
Someone ask about this .040 thing. (If I'm in my back yard having a coctail can I lose my job?)
What about the shortage of officers in the District? (Of course the real reason for the shortage is all the people in TRU and Narcotics. There have alwsys been people at HQ, in fact back in the mid 90's when we had more people on the watch, there were more people at HQ. There have always been people working the desk. J-Fed seems to think that no one ever worked at HQ or theon the desk before a year ago. Can some of these people be put back, don't know, soeone has to do the admin stuff, civilians can't do it all.)
There will not be anything but nice feel good answers from J-Fed. He loves us all and wants us to do well. He is our father figure. Of course he is a father who has never had kids of his own or been the police.
Pallidin
IM sorry but all the meetings in the world wont change a thing.
To all of you working idiots. STOP WORKING. Answer your calls and write paper for everything you can. No revenue. NOTHING!
The hell with the meeting with the superintendent. Dont tell them a damn thing. JUST STOP WORKING! NO NUMBERS! Creat a shit load of back logs. If you kool aid drinking macho fuckin idiots would just stop then the studderin prick will give a contract. I cant belive how fuckin dumb we are.
I so-o-o agree with the first comment. If you put everyone BACK on the street instead of hiding in that CAPS office, it would no way come close to what we need, but it would be a start
One question I think might be a worthy one is this:
Will you pledge to get back to us via internal CPD memo or via the FOP (or other suitable means) with the answer to any question asked but which you don't have the answer within a reasonable period of time, say a week?
How can I become a storefront/reverend? Can I download an application from this website?? What are my "perks"? Do I have to pay ANY taxes at all?? Do I get to advise our current administration?? Do I receive a residual compensation for my imput??
Why go? Hes just going to blow smoke and will not change anything.
Its an old trick/ Let the employees vent, theyll feel better but nothing will change.
This is my humble suggestion, FOP contact Weis and tell him this is a great idea but we would feel better hosting this meeting at FOP hall at a later date. Our leadership will be back and our membership has more time to come up with the very best questions. And hopefully a meter maid will ticket Weis's car.
14? 14 doesn't rank up there with those other districts in terms of ghetto busy. It isn't busy like that anymore. You must work in 14 and want to believe you work in a busy district. You forgot 5 and 6.
i was just thinking the same thing. a backlog of barking dogs and dumb yuppies and the sheep that got robbed b/c of their liberal ways
shitty cars, shitty pdt's, no sgts, no backup (b/c their all hiding in the caps officer or 35th or tru, or some unit)
First, send in McLovin from 5 to talk. I do not think he is KMA but he surely does not give a shit about any fallout. Now the questions.
#1, Jody - where do you reside? Is it really in Oak Park? Are you STILL waiting on that condo to be ready in the city? or did you finally make the move??
#2, Jody - Why have you not registered ANY of your weapons. You seem to like to dig up the OLD DIRT on PO's and throw them under the bus - why not look at yourself first???
#3, Jody - Have you, and if you did, when was the last time you were tested for steroids? You seem to have a large forehead, and big hunched shoulders...just wondering?
I know you worry about all of us drinking, but we all worry about your health too. Steroids will make you get a small pee-pee and then when that happens, you loose all your manhood. next thing ya know you will be telling us you like cats.
Above all, please tell me about your weapons and why you do not have any registered in the city. I am sure a phone call to the Area 2 gun team would get some results - those guys will take guns from anyone - yourself included.
As your little stuttering mayor would say,"It's all about the chidren. We must listen to the chidren. The chidren know best." Asshole is trying to sound like Phleger who, in turn, is trying to sound black when he says chidren(sic). Somebody should tell Phleger that nothing sounds worse than whitey trying to sound black. Pleger you are a fucking cracker-not a brother-just deal with it moron.
dont forget --since violent crime is up in the ghetto are you gonna forget about bts 2211 811 and 1611 where the city workers and the taxpayers live?
Patrol only. Yes , no offense but they are the only one's stupid enough to show up. I wont go unless a FOP rep is there to ask quetions for the membership , thats why I pay dues. You think guys from nice units , that are begging for more money next contract, are gonna ruffle any feathers.
If merit promotions are so legit how come your embarrased to tell who they are? We all should know who they are then maybe we could follow in their footsteps and get promoted too.
the simple fact they are having this meeting shows they are scared and we are winning.
Who cares do you people really think anything is going to change? Do 20 years and get the hell out. And for all of you that don't like 12 hr shifts retire or get the hell out ghetto. I sure hope you dinasoaurs don't ruin 10 or twelve hr shifts like you are doing to lifting residency. Get a life quit working 5 side jobs or retire!
attending a meeting, where the answers to questions asked will likely be shallow, non-committal, or uninformative, seems to be a waste of time...
Why is your forehead so huge and your eyes so beedie?
This meeting is a typical management move to undermine the power of union members. Here's how it works: Management holds many meetings to hear what the rank and file want, does nothing meaningful about it, gathers information from the attendance, reaction, and cops that it can use to strengthen its power and eliminate the role of the union in the process. All the while, the rank and file stumble along thinking management really cares and will do something about it.
I think the union should reassert the fact that it is the official medium through which rank and file address their grievances.
I think a lot can be accomplished by rank and file by utilizing the tools already at their hands. That means each district, unit, should focus on electing a strong union rep in the unit and began utilizing the grievance procedures. Each district should also create its own newsletter that will focus on issues in that district, including updates on every grievance pending, as well as actions by state's attorneys, actions by supervisors deemed unacceptable. This newsletter could also keep members apprised of CR#'s and investigations. Maybe it's time rank and file investigated OPS and put their findings in writing to be placed in their employee files.
I think cops too quickly expect someone to represent them when they already have the union rights to organize themselves at the worksite.
On top of that, I think the union should file a letter opposing this meeting and it should attend and declare it at the beginning.
why does it take 2-3 years to approve awards?
Is it true overtime will be given to go to this meeting? I'm going either way, just heard it and I am sure it couldn't be true.
why does the crossing guard supervisor get a brand new blue and white with a pdt? no joke! go to 015 and find out. and we weren't allowed to take it out if she wasn't there. guess i'll get in my car which the door doesn't shut all the way, no pdt, with 120,000 mile on it.
why is it recently reported Peoples gas increase rates of 6% ComEd increased rates by 6% groceries on average are increased from 6%-13% gasoline is up exponentially the City recently increased my water bill by around 6% my property taxes are going up at least 6% and yet, the City's contract offer for cost of living expenses sits at 1.1% This is a major factor in the low morale. We as POs are living check to check more than ever and what the City is offering is essentially a pay cut. Do you, Jody, plan on going to bat for us and advocating for us to the Mayor that we need the pay raise we are asking for?
5/12/2008 01:16:00 AM
GREAT GREAT GREAT QUESTION
"The Box Chevy Phantom" says...
oops on #4, i meant tracking#'s to circumvent the sworn affidavit law & bargaining agreement...
the rest of society would not tolerate such extreme sanction in the work place like loss of job or going to prison because of some malcontent lying on them or their employer keeping a record of unfounded/disproven lies for purely punitive reasons but it's ok for police officers to be subjected to this, why? can you answer that j-fed? of course you can't...
"pea soup green box chevy..."
MERIT SGT
HOW MANY YEARS DOES ONE NEED TO REALLY BE CONSIDERED 4 MERIT SGT. AND DOES ACTIVITY OUTWEIGH TIME ON JOB OR DOES TIME OUTWEIGH ACTIVITY.... OR ??????????????????????????????????????
CONSIDERING THE SELECTION PROCESS STATES 6 YRS
OR IS IT ALL BULLSH*T ?
If all you guy's want to make you happy is new cars and radios , the city already won.
I'd like to have two guys waiting until the superintendent comes to sit at the table. Right before he sits down, have them blow a couple silent but deadlies and then smile at Jfed and leave.
Any whiners on this blog (including myself) who do not go to this meeting should shut your mouths. SCC is right if we do not go and voice our questions/opinoins then J-Fed can say I gave them a chance they must all be happy with this job.
Caveat Emptor!!!
Me fellow officers, please be aware of this latin phrase. While its meaning has more to do with property, it applies to this upcoming open forum that will be held with J-Fed and Aunt Bea at headquarters (their house) on Wednesday night.
Buyer beware…..
The last time J-Fed had one of these “Officers only, tell me the problems you face” sessions was at the 21st District a few months ago. Can anyone tell me what has happened to the 21st District since that time?
I can!
They got arguably one of the worst District Commanders in the CPD (until the genious move of promoting Lily Crum-Hales to D/C – WOW!) who likes to micro manage and shit on the working officers, and then to top it off, the proverbial cherry on top, if you will, they bring in THE worst Watch Commander in the history of the CPD, CPT Cynthia White. Trust me, if you are a dog, a worker, a cop who has to sit to piss, a cop who stands to piss, black, white, hispanic, asian, whatever – she treats you all like shit.
So, byuer beware. I know you can say anything you want now because most, if not all, the changes have been made. But, do you think the stuff in 21 happened just by chance, or was there some intent behind the moves?? I’m no oliver North type, but hell, even Mr. Magoo could see that these moves were suspicious to say the least.
I suggest somebody just go to the meeting and then ask J-Fed and Aunt Bea if they ever heard of a website or blog called SCC. They have to answer yes, or they will loose all creditibility that they might have. After that, just say you compiled a list of questions from SCC that you would like answered and go from there. A lot of good ones have already been brought up; define merit, what do you attend to do about the merit process to make it more fair, more open for ALL to see who is merit, etc, working PDTs, radios that work, pay that is on par with the real cost of living, and standing up in the media about us (a la the guy from San Franciso in the You Tube video) - all very good points.
That way you can blame anything J-Fed or Aunt Bea do not like on the annonymity of SCC and hopefully, hopefully stand clear of any backlash. Bottom line, I think this is just another smoke and mirrors ploy that will provide us with nothing, but, in the very least, you can get some stuff off of your chest and let the gripes be heard in a public forum.
Can Northside come to the meeting and question J-Fed for us?
He supposed to be vicious and won't think twice about revenge against us blueshirts.
We got to maintain a low profile or he might even get us separated on bogus charges.
Why hold this meeting in a room at hq that is outfitted with microphones and cameras? Why not pop into roll call instead?
Because the rollcall rooms in all the new stations are also fully wired for video and sound!!! That's why they have a little camera over the video screen and microphones in the ceiling
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Yesterday, 5/11/08, just as I was getting ready to end my tour, I get a job 20 minutes before check off. Ok, sometimes it works like that, but on this occasion, It is a traffic accident. Called in by an off duty police officer who stated he was just involved.
The KICKER is that in the comment section of my screen, typed in by the dispatcher are the words “POSSIBLE UPGRADE?
WTF is this. No alcohol is involved. The off duty, on the way into work P/O said he never said anything to the dispatcher to indicate the other driver was intoxicated. It was a very minor fender bender. So what is the “POSSIBLE UPGRADE” comment for.
Are they looking to FUCK and off duty officer?
Are they now required to ask the responding officers to determine is an off duty po had a pop prior to requiring police service?
Do they actually think I’m going to play this game?
Hey J-Fuck , You arer a weak minded , steroid poppin' , Weasel faced , Cocksuckin' , Little Bastard. if you think that having a meeting with the troops is going to help. No matter what is said you and that little fat aunt "B" ain't going to do shit about anything . In one ear and out the other . You are a puppet and the little shitty Mayor pulls the strings.
Question #2
Lilly Crump Hale????
Lucio Martinez ????
(There are others but the list is too extensive)
Who, exactly, is giving you advice?
Question #3
How can you stand there with a straight face (no pun intended) and say you are controlling the Department in light of the 4 City Hall staffers that have recently been placed in command positions?
Question #4
Do you read the memos that come from 35th St, BEFORE they are faxed out? Why does virtually EVERY fax have to be rescinded or explained the following day?
Dear J-Fed, ref merit promotins:
If you need a college degree on this job to get hired or promoted, why are you a bad test-taker? I know of no college or university that grants a degree without taking some sort of test to graduate a course. So, you score high on a test, you get promoted. You don't score high on a test, refer back to your college manuals on how to study harder.
What is the purpose of a merit promtion, and why would the department want to punish an employee who scored well enough to get promoted, only to be passed over by an employee who did not have the talent, or desire to prepare themselsves enough to score high, thus getting promoted legitimately. This affects officers in more than one way.
For example, the present Sgt list, there have been only 35 (??) officers taken from the list. There have been 50 P.O. promoted to Sgt., giving a total of 15 merit. Why should 36-50 on the list be punished and lose the senority that the merit Sgt.'s have? And let's face it, most of the merits were beyond the point of promotion by rank in order. If they were high enough on the list, they would have been told to wait, and not burn the favor.
Please respond, and eliminate the merit promotions.
5/12/2008 06:31:00 AM
Look at the flip side,"lets just say" what if some, if not all of the merit deserved it and you want to do away with merit because "lets just say" you are a better "test taker" than the merit guy who "lets just say" is a hell of a better cop than you, where is the fairness? I know what you're getting at with some clout-infested dog that shouldn't even be on this job let alone be a sgt./det.but some how and I think Jody is taking a long hard look at merit promoting that the ones who have earned it(with documented proof) will be promoted meritriously.Be safe brother and I'm looking for that phone call one day sayng that Ive been promoted meritoriously cause I'm the guy who can't pass a promotional test and I've "prepared" myself for all 6 of them, but I sure do deserve it, at least thats what I'm told by my peers?
Question #2 In the current method of testing for promotions, why isn’t the score from the first part of the test (tests for comprehension and knowledge of general orders/procedures, etc) not included with the second portion (essay questions) score to give a final score for ranking people without clout? Wouldn’t you want a better rounded supervisor that actually knew department general orders and was proficient in the scenarios given?
I know the real reason why they rank the test takers from the essay questions score only because they can fudge the essay portion score and you cannot do anything about the scantron portion because either you got it right or you got it wrong and it would be somewhat fair.
5/12/2008 07:44:00 AM
Tests will be totally different in the very near future because of reasons like this,thats why you will see very few promoted off the existing list(s),JW is looking at this to be a MAJOR flaw in the system
excuse me mr. j-fed sir do you still crank dat soulja boy???
To those wondering why we don't sue or prosecute people who sign an affidavit and make a false complaint just look at the affidavit. It should be like a complaint, as it first was when it came out, where the complainant's words go on the affidavit and they sign it. Now they just sign a bogus form that locks them into nothing..Do you rally think this is just a mistake, it's because the city, FOP, and others made an agreement not to hinder the complaint process by scaring citizens out of complaining...Look into it SCC, you'll see what I'm talking about..And how about it Mark, why has FOP pursued NOT ONE CASE even though IAD has even sent you some to consider??That's right, guys from IAD have sent the FOP bogus cases to look at and yet nothing....
I read the blog regularly but have never posted.
There are usually quite a few people who post my thoughts so I don't want to be redundant.
But there is one topic that wasn't addressed that is of utmost importance to all of us. I won't be able to attend meeting because I will be working and my District is too busy to escape.
Can somebody please make this point?
If there are only 9000 POs instead of 13500, manpower is only 2/3 of what it should be. If there where 4500 more POs paying into the pension, the city actually kept its part of the deal funding its obligation, stopped the loans to Daley's realatives that are never repaid and other theft from the pension we would be in much better shape than 49% funded. Can you imagine the effect another $1,215,000 going into the pension every 1st and 16th would have on our future retirement?
Yes that is a good estimate of how much we are screwed every payday $270 x 4500 = $1,215,000!
Then Again, Maybe Daley will read this and start salivating about the new stream of revenue an additional 4500 POs paying into the fund would provide for him to raid when he sees fit.
Somebody Please bring this up at meeting with J-Fed and post on the blog about it!
why is the promotion process so clouded?
1. it takes 6 months to get answers from a scantron sheet?
2. why can't we get our tests back after being graded so we can review them for ourselves?
3. the "merit" program is a joke.
we deserve clear and legitimate promotion process. the current system is soooooo fucked up.
You know you're all starting at the wrong place..First shame on you for voting this present FOP Board in yet again. Most of the questions you have asked here should have been asked by FOP all along. The "No Confidence" vote you should consider is one for Mark Donahue..Every blue shirt should attend the next FOP meeting and demand the answers you seek...After all, what are you paying dues for????
anonymous said...
The real police are voting with their feet and are leaving in droves. This city will go down if the powers that be fail to let the police be the police. Cops are leaving with just 10 yrs on the job.Nobody will want this job! It is a political system in which the politicaly connected or the 31 flavors of the gay lewsbian my mommy was a boss I have plastic boobs minority hockey marine cook club get promoted on Merit and not on knowledge or experience. Dont do Shit boys and girls and the whole system will crash once and for all.
5/12/2008 05:43:00 AM
How can this be verified? The monthly FOP letter shows retirees, but rarely do you see someone with 10 leave... I suspect the same thing, as I know a few 10s that are seriously thinking about leaving... is it a stat that is not reported?
QUESTION I'D LIKE ASKED:
I'm interested in a unit like fugitive apprehention. Are you (J-Fed) going to open units like this to bid, or is it going to continue with the status quo. i.e., i need a phone call to get into this unit. How bout narcotics, gang intelligence, et. al.
you say that the merit process is good because some people dont test well.
ok i test well in the first part , because i know the job and the facts.
but with essays, i dont do as well.
you tell me why i should suffer , if i know the orders, but yet dont write out the novel well.
and as a supervisor why must i write the novel , my job would to read the novel , and ask the writer to make necessary changes.
People can bitch and moan all they want but things are not going to change overnight. Even though the merit question looms the fact is we still need sergeants. Did they not want them out of the 6-week academy by the end of June? What are they waiting for. With all the shootings that occurred the last month it looks like it’s going to be a “long and hot “ summer….
I've been on the job 31 years and I've never seen the type of changes taking place in such a short time span," said Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue.
http://www.officer.com/online/article.jsp?siteSection=1&id=41337
Why does the department refuse to prosecute those who commit perjury in that they sign an affidavit that is proven a lie during the course of a CR investigation? Why are these people not treated equally as a PO in the matter of perjury from the department's view?
This is one the more important questions. This would help eliminate the B.S.
Question #3
Have you danced with the devil in the pale moon light?
Bells....bells....bells....
J-pud won't know this header and most of the younger guys
Anyway, from the teletype of the new Superintendent:
LOCKS KILL in 005th Dist!
All locks are here to fore illegal
in all police districts. And the mayor added that since locks secure....yes, lockers.
All lockers and their manufacturers are also VERBOTEN>
? 14 doesn't rank up there with those other districts in terms of ghetto busy. It isn't busy like that anymore. You must work in 14 and want to believe you work in a busy district. You forgot 5 and 6.
5/12/2008 12:50:00 AM
14 15 noooo, how about 4,5,6, 7,8,9,10,11,25 check stats for bussiest
I heard David Copperfield will be there to assist with all the smoke and mirrors. Also new chairs specially outfitted to blow extra smoke up your asses.
Lts bids=a lts class soon? Anyone know anything?
Remember to ask about topics that acutally come under the authority of the Superintendent.
He has no authority to authorize pay increases, or change time schedules, or buy cars. He can't make the crime rate go up or down. He can't "charge" coppers with felonies.
He is in charge of manpower resources: Why are the districts short manpower?
He is in charge of discipline: Why are police being stripped after unsubstantiated citizen complaints, simply because the officer has some level of alcohol in his system?
He is in charge of merit promotions: What is "merit?"
He is in charge of staffing "units": What are the qualifications to get into Narcotics or Gang Intelligence or Traffic or TRU or DOC Staff Member or 35th Street Parking Lot Guard?
Question:
Is there the possibility of a 5 year buy out for people with 15 years on, who happen to be straight, white and male? We know you hate us and think we are the problem. Give me my pension and I'll go, no hard feelings.
Question #5
What is the air speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
14? 14 doesn't rank up there with those other districts in terms of ghetto busy. It isn't busy like that anymore. You must work in 14 and want to believe you work in a busy district. You forgot 5 and 6.
5/12/2008 12:50:00 AM
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all depends on what you consider busy. Im sure the 1st watch guys will disagree with you given the amount of bars in bucktown/wicker park.
#1-put suggestion boxes in every roll call in each district. yeah, I know some of them that get dropped in the box will be bullshit venting, but then some would be very informative and ideas that would better the department.
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You would regret this as soon as it started, especially if it is anonymous, and you have a boss who takes EACH one seriously... There are those on this job who have suffered from a boss doing just this.
Instead of needing to be "put in for a merit promotion", a police officer should be able to apply him or herself, and be able to interview in front of the board showing what they have done in their career. It might still be a rigged process, but at least an officer cab state there case for promotion.
How soon before we get a better schedule?
you go to this meeting you are softer than a bowl of warm puppy shit. he's going to get on his knees and cry you a river about how you are honorable and have taken an oath to serve and protect, blah,blah,blah. we did not draw the line in the sand, the pimp media and sell outs did. you can't have it both ways. one p/o sacrificed is way to many to appease some fool who sits behind a typewriter all day and couldn't find his ass with his two hands. the job used to be simple-- two officers would go into the night with a gun, stick, cuffs, radio, and self motivation to do the job. now we have been reduced to revenue generating trolls who are inundated with micro managing bs event numbers and mission number nonsense. this job has changed forever and will never be the way it was before. one thing will be the same and that is the brotherhood i feel with the watch i work and i will always roll to a p/o in need.
Mearday won the ghetto lotto and now sentenced to 4yrs today. He gone!
DES MOINES, Iowa---- A college student whose friend was being questioned in a hit and run found himself charged with assaulting an officer with a curious choice of weapons: M&Ms.
Sean McGuire was arrested early Sunday at a convenience store after Drake University security guards noticed the colored candies falling on the ground around the officer. When the officer turned around, an M&M hit his shoulder, according to a police report.
McGuire claimed he threw the candy because he was "sticking up for his friend," who apparently was the man suspected in the accident, the report states.
McGuire, of Glenview, Ill., was released from jail Sunday after posting $1,000 bond. A telephone
fucking Iowa, assault an officer and get an I bond, defend yourself from an aggressive drunk, get charged with a felony!!!
Anybody who goes to that meeting and thinks it is going to change anything is a complete retard. The only way we will get any respect
from this city, the mayor and the current police superintendent, is to give them what they want.
What do they want? NOTHING, they want you to do nothing then there is no liability and no embarssment for the CPD. If animals kill each other its not our fault just take the report and make sure you give the victim a VIN.
Today at work my partner and I were discussing ways that we as tactical officers could secure our new/used M4 should we ever pass the power test. After thinking hard, we'd like to recommend this neat device to our supreme leader J-Fed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIB49Xd_4H0
How about asking him what the exact number of Police Officers there are. Not his generic 13,500 that he always uses. A good leader should know how many are working for him.
This is humerous:
While on a street stop the other night I got into a political discussion with a high ranking member of the GD's while I ran his name.
it goes like this:
Dirtbag: hey office you boys ain't running like you used to huh?
Me: What the hell does that mean?
Dirtbag: ever since your new boss came to town, police dont come at us hard no more.
Me: yeah
Dirtbag: I think it's funny, it's like the bossman is on our side.
Me: well he does like the revrends
Dirtbag: ha ha come on man not all of them get cuts from us.
Me: I'm sure there is one or two who have the community in mind
Dirtbag: i sees on the news all the time about him taking your badges cause of any made up story. thats funny too, cause you know when we gets caught dirty- we call our lawyer then OPS or IAD to make up some bullshit story to help us outta the jam, and them dumb motherfuckers believe anything you tell em.
Me: oh trust me i know that, I've heard some good ones, we should start sueing you motherfuckers ha ha.
Dirtbag: what you gonna take? My Buick? Nothings in my name office.
Me: No get out of here are you serious? Is you license valid too (we both laugh at that one)
Dirtbag: where are all these rifles at you supposed to be rolling with?
Me: don't know some guys don't get one cause of a power test.
Dirtbag: you mean the fat mother fuckers?
Me: some but not all, knee, ankle, injuries whatever doesnt help.
Dirtbag: well all the running us bangers gotta do is to the house to get our choppers..thats kinda kinda bad for you mother fu*kers.
Me: everyone agrees with you there.
Me: get outta here call it a night
Dirtbag: be careful office, summer gonna be bad, since they don't let the poliece be the poliece, we running the shit now "G". Tell your big man thanks (with a smile)
Me: see ya numbnuts make sure you duck and cover, get outta here before i find something to lock you up for.
TRUE STORY THIS IS WHAT BANGERS THINK...YOUR DOING AWESOME JODY KEEP IT UP.
Good news from the Tribune:
A Maywood man who won a $1.75 million settlement after being beaten by Chicago police officers in 1997 was sentenced Monday to 4 years in prison for violating his 2006 probation for selling crack cocaine.
Jeremiah Mearday, 29, pleaded guilty in 2006 to selling crack to an undercover police officer in Glendale Heights. For that December 2005 offense, DuPage Judge George Bakalis sentenced him to 2 years of intensive probation and 180 days in the DuPage County Jail.
Assistant State's Atty. Paul Marchese filed a notice of violation of probation earlier this year, contending that Mearday missed seven months of meetings with the probation department, failed a drug test that indicated the use of marijuana, refused to take another drug test and didn't have a job for a year, as stipulated by his probation requirements.
An assistant public defender was appointed earlier this year by Bakalis to represent Mearday after the defendant claimed he was broke. Mearday again said Monday that he was broke after Marchese asked Bakalis to charge the defendant for the use of the public defender.
Bakalis ordered Mearday to report to his Wheaton courtroom on May 27 to be taken into custody and begin serving his sentence.
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rot in jail scumbag
What was the most you ever curled?
Did you ever wear crazy pants?
Did you ever drink megamass 2000?
Did you ever ask for a spot or you just did bad form?
Powerlifting or bodybuilding?
Do you ever get hard looks when you are bench pressing?
Do you do back with triceps or just arms on the same day?
Do you work on your legs?
Do you put away the weights after yiou use them or just drop them on the floor?
Superset, pauses, or bounce the weight?
Oh shhhhhhhh I'm late for roll call!
Off the subject but was it me or was j-fed wearing coverup makeup? and looked like he had plastic surgery to his face at the st. judes parade.
How many face lifts have you had?
Can you really bench press Tina Skahill?
Have you and the Mayor ever visited a Turkish Bath House together?
Your the new tough top cop in Chicago and your a cat owner?
How often do you get your body hair waxed off?
Is that your real hair? Or is that Hair Club For Men?
Have you ever been drunk, introxicated?
did you lie in any regard in your resume for the current position?
Off Topic
Have you guys been following what's going on with the drug wars in Mexico lately?
It's bizarre. Lots of police (some crooked, some not) getting murdered.
Why does this never get any play on the news here??
Google it.
Why does the department refuse to prosecute those who commit perjury in that they sign an affidavit that is proven a lie during the course of a CR investigation? Why are these people not treated equally as a PO in the matter of perjury from the department's view?
It is up to your union to go after people who commit the perjury.
can you please tell me why when you finally open a bid to a desirable unit after our contracts have been violated by way too many clout only management placements to a unit like Ohare ...the bid is put out Friday evening late,so the least amount of people will know of this and then claim the bid won by a person detailed for over a year prior to bid open..
unless you have over 22yrs. don't worry bout it.
Why do you wear OUR uniform?????
Ask him, does your wife really call you J-Dud?
#1 start backing the officers in blue that put their neck on the line day in day out, rather then looking at any little excuse to get rid of an officer in an already depleted department
#2 Start working with the FOP on our work week. 6 days on 2 days off is horrible, by the 5th day productivity goes to the low end. 6 days on 3 off every week would motivate any officer.
#3 Better equipment. Start spending some money on the department. Our department is a joke compared to neighboring suburbs. From cars to radios, we need better gear!
Take the internet off department computers. Supervisors and recruits on the desk on the internet eight hourts a day. Desk sergeants tell you to use another computer, come back later to approve an arrest because they are surfing. You go to I-clear to make an arrest report. Says 1000 people are on line. 25 percent of the department on-duty personnel are on line? What a waste. Taxpayers would puke. Any one working a beat doesn't need the internet. Tact guy or girl doesn't need to surf on the job. WHo does?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does the department refuse to prosecute those who commit perjury in that they sign an affidavit that is proven a lie during the course of a CR investigation? Why are these people not treated equally as a PO in the matter of perjury from the department's view?
or something along those lines
5/12/2008 01:06:00 AM
Ask the Cook County States Attorney!
"Do you ever get hard looks when you are bench pressing?
5/12/2008 05:25:00 PM"
This should read "Do you ever get hard when you are bench pressing?"
Why can't the promotional tests be graded upon exit or at the very least, why is the city so adamant about not showing you how the tests are graded? As it stands right now, you can never know what part of the test you scored poorly on, and what areas you need to work on. In other words, what are they looking for?
Instead of meritorious--make the promotional exams fair and equitable. Straight multiple choice......end the subjective sections which are ultimately graded by non-police personnel!
Jody: BE the first superindendent to blow off the merit selection. Hire off the list. Why has only 35 people been promoted who scored well? It's not fair to the guy/gal who scored 125, 130, 140 on the list and has to wait for 37-42 "merits" to jump over them. That's a lot of seniority for those who just took the first exam or "blew" the second exam 'cause they know they will be put in for "merit". FOP - why aren't we addressing this merit crap in our negotiations? The department is full of people who don't know how to manage. I happen to work for a few of them and it sucks.
I agree that some of this pick suck, but James Jackson IS a good man.
Please someone brave enough to go into a room covered in mic's amd cmaera and ask J-FRED to look into not allowing officers to be tried in 2 courts, The state (criminal charge) and when that fails the liberal media (FEDERAL Civil rights violation) At the start of any trial, The COurt must let the defendant know if this State law or Fed laws they are doing with, anf that's it. Rodney King needed and ass beating, the State court agreed, but not the Federal Court. BLAM BLAM 5 years for SGT.Coon. Know we have are owm....Bill Cozy. Tried in state court convicted, 2 year suspension per police board, the the J-Fred slammed him. FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS COMPLAINT. I know bill is a goof, and so did the police board.FOP you must work to pass legislation to keep this shit form happening.
that phone call one day sayng that Ive been promoted meritoriously cause I'm the guy who can't pass a promotional test and I've "prepared" myself for all 6 of them, but I sure do deserve it, at least thats what I'm told by my peers?
5/12/2008 10:39:00 AM
Good Luck, My Brother.
I hope it happns to those who have proven themselves.
I, unfortunatley have not seen that, yet.
I have seen U.C. officers, robbed at gunpoint, P.O. shot, and not get the bump.
If it were legit, then OK.
But, it is not.
Take the internet off department computers. Supervisors and recruits on the desk on the internet eight hourts a day. Desk sergeants tell you to use another computer, come back later to approve an arrest because they are surfing. You go to I-clear to make an arrest report. Says 1000 people are on line. 25 percent of the department on-duty personnel are on line? What a waste. Taxpayers would puke. Any one working a beat doesn't need the internet. Tact guy or girl doesn't need to surf on the job. WHo does?
5/12/2008 08:59:00 PM
How about detectives looking up phone numbers, addresses, and other information on phone directories around the country?
Or looking up IDOC information, or Illinois statutes, or Federal inmate info, or sex offender databases from IL, or IN, or MO, or MS, or inmate information from those states, or verifying attorney status with the Illinois bar?
Or how about you do what you want to do and let other people do what they want to do and let supervisors worry about their own and you worry about you?
How about that?
I heard you have to take a breathalyzer at the door before entering and if you turn around and leave, officers will be at every exit! lol
WINNING POST OF THE WEEK
J-Fed Can you really bench press Tina Skahill?
Almost peed on myself!
????????where's our contract
????????5 year buyout with 80% pension for officers with
32yrs and paid health insurance
????????? 4 - 10 hour days pick day off group by seniority
5 % pensionable shift differential
this will get old timers to work 1st and 3rd watch
SCC:
off topic, but there's another jag off column about the police in Neil Steinberg's column today (Monday).
The reason the city will not score the test immediately, even though you are using a #2 pencil and a scan sheet, is because each question/answer has to be weighed against the overall response for the question. Too many people get the question wrong, it must be a bad question. Why is it in H/S and college there isn't a problem like this. The written part and oral is just to bump the chosen ones to the front.
If the test for any promotional exam was on the up and up, then
why can't you get a copy to see where you fucked up. Because the city doesn't want the vendor to expose the grading system and have it challenged in court. The only part of this job that is legit is when you die or retire.
Yesterday, 5/11/08, just as I was getting ready to end my tour, I get a job 20 minutes before check off. Ok, sometimes it works like that, but on this occasion, It is a traffic accident. Called in by an off duty police officer who stated he was just involved.
The KICKER is that in the comment section of my screen, typed in by the dispatcher are the words “POSSIBLE UPGRADE?
WTF is this. No alcohol is involved. The off duty, on the way into work P/O said he never said anything to the dispatcher to indicate the other driver was intoxicated. It was a very minor fender bender. So what is the “POSSIBLE UPGRADE” comment for.
Are they looking to FUCK and off duty officer?
Are they now required to ask the responding officers to determine is an off duty po had a pop prior to requiring police service?
Do they actually think I’m going to play this game?
5/12/2008 10:01:00 AM
I'm sure this was the dispatcher mocking J-Fed and his policy, if in fact it is true. The dispatchers frequent this site and most of them have a sense of humor. Lighten up
I have one question for Weis at this meeting.
Beer Me?
Jody: BE the first superindendent to blow off the merit selection. Hire off the list. Why has only 35 people been promoted who scored well? It's not fair to the guy/gal who scored 125, 130, 140 on the list and has to wait for 37-42 "merits" to jump over them. That's a lot of seniority for those who just took the first exam or "blew" the second exam 'cause they know they will be put in for "merit". FOP - why aren't we addressing this merit crap in our negotiations? The department is full of people who don't know how to manage. I happen to work for a few of them and it sucks.
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How about merit should be based upon arrests, saving a guy in a hail of bullets. 30 years without a lawsuit. That's merit.
The Comment "Caps is about A Partnership with the community"
Is Right On.
How true. Had a Foot Patrol Beat for Six Years. Never see it any more. Man Power Shortage. Always on a Beat Car.
I did more on Foot Patrol Than Any Caps Meeting Ever Did or Will Do.
Not Just Me, Most Foot Patrol Officers Serve a Purpose. Too Bad They are a Thing of the Past.
Homicides in 006 and 007 tonight. Enjoy your new police department, Jody.
Why Does No One,Except The Police, Ever get Prosecuted for Perjury In Cook County?
"I suggest somebody just go to the meeting and then ask J-Fed and Aunt Bea if they ever heard of a website or blog called SCC. They have to answer yes, or they will loose all creditibility that they might have. After that, just say you compiled a list of questions from SCC that you would like answered and go from there."
Better yet, after they acknowledge that they know of this site, merely advise them that their BEST source of what they claim to seek IS this site.
Log on, read it and weep.
14? 14 doesn't rank up there with those other districts in terms of ghetto busy. It isn't busy like that anymore. You must work in 14 and want to believe you work in a busy district. You forgot 5 and 6.
5/12/2008 12:50:00 AM
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all depends on what you consider busy. Im sure the 1st watch guys will disagree with you given the amount of bars in bucktown/wicker park.
5/12/2008 02:51:00 PM
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Are you considering having yuppie bars in your district as being a "busy district" Are you going to sit here and tell me 018, 019 and 023 are busy because they have bars? Get the fuck out of here. 014 is nothing like it used to be junior. Try running around there 15 years ago.
Are you fucking kidding me? This whole meeting thing is a damn joke. Smoke and mirrors. Bullshit.
I spoke with Mark Donahue this morning. He assured me that this so-called "merit" (i.e., CLOUT) bullshit in promotions and assignments will be top priority.
Historically, the City cannot be trusted with subjective promotional procedures. The objective testing must be transparent and above reproach. We also can prove that the City's claims of "racial norming" are just a pretext for chicanery. In addition to IMMEDIATE Scantron scoring of multiple choice exams prepared by OUTSIDERS, followed by a challenge process, I strongly recommend that officers with street experience, felony arrests, etc. in high-crime districts/areas sometime during their careers be weighted heavily. Everybody should "pay their dues".
Any subjective ratings of personnel by CPD exempts is inherently and inexorably flawed and clout-infested. They cannot be trusted.
Mark Donahue is aware that I'm still in possession of incontrovertible documentation that there is less than one chance in 13.8 TRILLION (13,800,000,000,000) that the subjective portion of an earlier exam was NOT rigged.
Supt. Weis is also aware of this FACT and the existence of this SCC Web site. If Weis denies this, he is a LIAR.
I realize that there are numerous other policy issues that must be addressed. However, if we start placing our best, brightest and most respected leaders into the management pipeline, many issues will resolve themselves.
Donahue will meet with Weis tomorrow morning. He will also attend the Wednesday 1900 hrs. HQ meeting with the FOP's Greg Bella, Bill Dougherty and Tim Fallon.
9:52 AM: I am humbled but it ain't gonna happen.
Meeting over; we all know j-wad reads this post...
Prosecute people for Perjury??? Only if you're the police!!! Just a mere two weeks ago we had FIVE, that's right FIVE, eye-witnesses who gave hand written statements and testified in front of a Grand Jury regarding a homicide flip on the stand, under oath that everything they said two years ago was a lie. Thank god the jury saw through their bullshit and found the asshole guilty in less than one and a half hours of deliberation. When I asked the state's attorney for perjury charges on all of the asshole witnesses he looked at me like I had two heads. Of course had they been Chicago Police Officers the ink on the arrest warrants would not have been dried when he handed them to me...
You gotta be joking...all of you scc keyboard cowboys, rock'em-sock'em bad ass mfr's are now being given the chance to speak your mind at a meeting with the Supt and what do you say now? "we'll get bricked, they want to see our ID's, there are cameras and mics in the multi-purpose room"
PUSSYS!!!!!
The Supt heard your whining and he pushed ALL IN and you are going to fold like the cowards you are!!!! you make me sick! and before you ask, no I'm not allowed at this meeting but I guarantee I'll be at the supv meeting.
Go ahead crybabies, pick on my spelling, my grammar, my punctuation and anything else you tough guys see fit.
BOTTOM LINE, J-FED IS ALL IN, ARE YOU CALLING OR FOLDING?
14? 14 doesn't rank up there with those other districts in terms of ghetto busy. It isn't busy like that anymore. You must work in 14 and want to believe you work in a busy district. You forgot 5 and 6.
5/12/2008 12:50:00 AM
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all depends on what you consider busy. Im sure the 1st watch guys will disagree with you given the amount of bars in bucktown/wicker park.
5/12/2008 02:51:00 PM
Please tell me this was suppose to be a joke. If not put in a bid to the southside!
(OT)Today at Whitney Young Auditorium a special Terrorism seminar for Chicago's Finest Who's Who, CFD and FBI was held. Should have been in the Academy, but the power was off.
Basically, the bosses and law enforcement/emergency personnel were told Chicago is NOT prepared for another 9-11.
Question for J-Fed at the May 14th meeting: Why doesn't CPD have a Terrorism Task Force in case of an attack? I mean we have T.A.R.A, but those booksmart nitwits don't have really a clue on how to effectively combat terrorism. I am not a military man, but I have an idea.
How about researching backgrounds of real po's on CPD who actually encountered the real deal over in Iraq and A-Stan? Afterall, these will be the ones that have seen the enemy. Who better to have on a terrorism mission. I'm not talking about clout babies who know someone on CPD. I'm not talking about the kids I seen today at the Academy taking M-4 instruction at the range. Man, the Dept. is getting wet behind the ears? I'm talking about real officers who have backgrounds in terrorism training. Like the kindly Dr. Buko said. We need people in CPD who can cue in on possible terrorists based on past experiences. Again, that would be war experienced po's.
All I got from the seminar from Dr. Burko is that we are fucked if a terrorist decides to hit Chicago.
-supervisor in CPD
Tests will be totally different in the very near future because of reasons like this,thats why you will see very few promoted off the existing list(s),JW is looking at this to be a MAJOR flaw in the system
This will not happen because it means that the city is admitting that the previous testing process was flawed. If that happens that will open up the city to lawsuits by peopl that were passed over for promotion or scored well but ot well enough to be promoted.
"BOTTOM LINE, J-FED IS ALL IN, ARE YOU CALLING OR FOLDING?
5/12/2008 11:16:00 PM"
Uh, what makes you think 'we're' playing by those rules?
And do you really think that 'j fraud' is 'all in'?
Try your k.i.s.s. 'logic' on the certifiably stupid, not those with ample street smarts.
Because it's not a game.
You gotta be joking...all of you scc keyboard cowboys, rock'em-sock'em bad ass mfr's are now being given the chance to speak your mind at a meeting with the Supt and what do you say now? "we'll get bricked, they want to see our ID's, there are cameras and mics in the multi-purpose room"
PUSSYS!!!!!
The Supt heard your whining and he pushed ALL IN and you are going to fold like the cowards you are!!!! you make me sick! and before you ask, no I'm not allowed at this meeting but I guarantee I'll be at the supv meeting.
Go ahead crybabies, pick on my spelling, my grammar, my punctuation and anything else you tough guys see fit.
BOTTOM LINE, J-FED IS ALL IN, ARE YOU CALLING OR FOLDING?
-----------------------------------I call, turn over A K to J-Fed's pocket kings. How or why would J-Fed fuck with you for asking questions. Does he have to give you an answer? or will he tell you what you want to hear. I'll let you know when the meeting is over. By the way, I hit an ace on the flop, the rest were rags.
This message is for the supervisor in CPD.........11:30pm 5/12/08
FUCK YOU asswipe! Lucky for you that you were to chicken shit to type your name or district?
We don't need another useless CPD clout unit like SFG, TRU, Gang Intelligence, etc.
Your idea to tackle the issue of terrorism is as FUCKED UP as you are!!!
-004th dist po
11:16 PM
As I know all too well, First Amendment retaliation remains de facto policy on this job. Exemplary officers have valid and compelling reasons to fear for their livelihood because of the vicious, corrupt and treacherous cocksuckers that run this city and dept.
Speaking of pussies, you neglected to identify yourself, "boss".
Give Daley's clit a flick and stick it up your ass, you big-mouthed coward!
NorthSide said...
I spoke with Mark Donahue this morning. He assured me that this so-called "merit" (i.e., CLOUT) bullshit in promotions and assignments will be top priority.
Historically, the City cannot be trusted with subjective promotional procedures. The objective testing must be transparent and above reproach. We also can prove that the City's claims of "racial norming" are just a pretext for chicanery.
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Who's the Deputy Chief of Narcotics who has been promoted meritoriously 4 times in the last 10 years???????
(Merit sergeant August 1998, Merit lieutenant 2002, appointed commander 2005, appointed deputy chief 2008)
His wife was also appointed sergeant meritoriously and went to the same district where he was a commander for 10 minutes before moving on to a "unit" working straight days and having weekends off.
YUP - We should all have the incentive to bust our ass in THEIR neighborhood and be the WORKING POLICE.
Perhaps we with no clout will have corrupt politicians make us merit bosses also.
Who says you can't make 'D-7 Pay' / $150,000 @ year with a fuckin' IQ of less than 70??
As a "green city" why are we thinking of investing in gas guzzling Tahoes instead of more cars?
Why are QUALIFIED po's getting rifles, but the majority of us are left with out PDT's, with out cars and faulty radios?
Why don't we detail female officers from other districts to work the Area lock up?
Can we have kitchenettes, to heat up and prepare healthy meals?
Can we have a work out room with a variety of machines and a nutritionist visits each roll call once a month, to create a diet plan and measure body fat.
Anonymous said...
Take the internet off department computers. Supervisors and recruits on the desk on the internet eight hourts a day. Desk sergeants tell you to use another computer, come back later to approve an arrest because they are surfing. You go to I-clear to make an arrest report. Says 1000 people are on line. 25 percent of the department on-duty personnel are on line? What a waste. Taxpayers would puke. Any one working a beat doesn't need the internet. Tact guy or girl doesn't need to surf on the job. WHo does?
5/12/2008 08:59:00 PM
Do you whine about everything? You must be a very frustrated PO. Make one arrest and you expect the red carpet rolled out for you. Tell the sgt to move. Be the man and speak up. Gosh, get a life.
Car 47,You guys better behave when u meet with my god.the one we in the dept honor with kool-aid and our hearts.
IT IS BULLIES LIKE 11:16 PM THAT HAVE DESTROYED THIS DEPARTMENT.
05/12/2008 11:16 pm, the best post I've seen in a a long time. You sir are my hero. I WILL BE AT THE MEETING, ID IN HAND.
J-fed,
kill the nepotism dragon.
No two people related by blood or marriage can hold a promoted position at the same time.
No more than 4 people related by blood or marriage can be in the city's employ at the same time.
5/12/2008 11:16:00 pm
Hey company man you sound like the kind of boss that likes to fuck over a po every time your feelings get hurt.....YOU DONT GET IT!
THAT IS THE REASON WHY NO ONE SHOULD GO...PUSSY!!!!
all depends on what you consider busy. Im sure the 1st watch guys will disagree with you given the amount of bars in bucktown/wicker park.
5/12/2008 02:51:00 PM
Please tell me this was suppose to be a joke. If not put in a bid to the southside!
5/12/2008 11:28:00 PM
i think thats tic tac that went back to 014 to his people. lil mighty mouse, thank god he left
jagoff guess where all the southside and westside shitheads party at its not in 006 007 its in 014 on mids.so dont give me shit about come to the southside.we deal with more 1's in one place at one time. not all dinks and yuppies thats another story that hates the police.been in 014 before the change and its not all good.
I'm sure this was the dispatcher mocking J-Fed and his policy, if in fact it is true. The dispatchers frequent this site and most of them have a sense of humor. Lighten up
5/12/2008 10:10:00 PM
Nope, there has been and order out for a long time about assigning a supervisor to off-duty accidents.
He is in charge of staffing "units": What are the qualifications to get into Narcotics or Gang Intelligence or Traffic or TRU or DOC Staff Member or 35th Street Parking Lot Guard?
APPT. TO NARCOTICS:
1) fill out app., submit resume with it.
2) call the unit periodically to arrange an appt. for interview.
3) be on time for your interview.
It helps if you've done some time working on a tact or gang team, and have been a previous affiant on a search warrant, or a few.
You may want to bring some copies of your best SW investigations from your tact or gang team experience.
4) Be prepared for your interview.
If you're coming in CD, a shirt & tie is always a good thing.
Sure, some people have gotten there due to a phone call. But a large number of people have gotten there because they impressed the supervisors who interviewed them.
There are 3 ratings on the interviews: Superior, acceptable and NOT ACCEPTABLE.
5) a follow up call after your interview doesn't hurt either.
Remember, the supervisors who interview you want to get the best people in the unit, and most of them strive to do so; you may wind up working for them if you get there, and we all know that good workers do good investigations.
Anonymous said...
Jody: BE the first superindendent to blow off the merit selection. Hire off the list
You sir or madam are incredibly naive. Merit promotions were Daley's answer to keeping minority representation in promotions proportionate with their representation percentage on this job.For years the Federal courts did that for him, however, when they said no more, he came up with the merit process. Face it, it's here to stay.
lets ask if roids are okay, he did them..
what Bea??? you have 4 brothers what does that have to do about being on this job?
no MORAL anywhere, everyone is back stabbing everyone. and if your white you have nothing going for you.
"BOTTOM LINE, J-FED IS ALL IN, ARE YOU CALLING OR FOLDING?
5/12/2008 11:16:00 PM"
Uh, what makes you think 'we're' playing by those rules?
And do you really think that 'j fraud' is 'all in'?
Try your k.i.s.s. 'logic' on the certifiably stupid, not those with ample street smarts.
Because it's not a game.
5/13/2008 12:20:00 AM
Thats okay if you stay home pussy. I guess there is a need for cowards in the world too.
J-FED IS ALL IN WITH A PAIR OF DUECES AND HE HAS SCARED YOU INTO FOLDING...CRYBABY
You gotta be joking...all of you scc keyboard cowboys, rock'em-sock'em bad ass mfr's are now being given the chance to speak your mind at a meeting with the Supt and what do you say now? "we'll get bricked, they want to see our ID's, there are cameras and mics in the multi-purpose room"
PUSSYS!!!!!
The Supt heard your whining and he pushed ALL IN and you are going to fold like the cowards you are!!!! you make me sick! and before you ask, no I'm not allowed at this meeting but I guarantee I'll be at the supv meeting.
Go ahead crybabies, pick on my spelling, my grammar, my punctuation and anything else you tough guys see fit.
BOTTOM LINE, J-FED IS ALL IN, ARE YOU CALLING OR FOLDING?
-----------------------------------I call, turn over A K to J-Fed's pocket kings. How or why would J-Fed fuck with you for asking questions. Does he have to give you an answer? or will he tell you what you want to hear. I'll let you know when the meeting is over. By the way, I hit an ace on the flop, the rest were rags.
5/13/2008 12:23:00 AM
My Point EXACTLY. You wont know if J-Fed is holding pocket kings or dueces unless you belly up to the table and play. Let the ladys (cowards) stay at the slots, the ones with balls will be at the meeting. Dont get me wrong, some of the cowards will be there also, they will be the ones standing around the table watching you play.
ps I'm NOT a J-FED fan by any means so dont get me wrong. He's calling us out on out whining, nows the time to "MAN UP"
IT IS BULLIES LIKE 11:16 PM THAT HAVE DESTROYED THIS DEPARTMENT.
5/13/2008 07:19:00 AM
COWARD ABOVE
HERO BELOW
05/12/2008 11:16 pm, the best post I've seen in a a long time. You sir are my hero. I WILL BE AT THE MEETING, ID IN HAND.
5/13/2008 07:28:00 AM
lets pretend we all are employee's in a factory or business in Japan. now, take all the dog ass do nothing lazy incompetant coppers that we have here on the department and pretend they were Japanese workers. They would be fired; no ifs ands or buts. I wish we could do that here but we would lose over 60% of the force
Question #3
Have you danced with the devil in the pale moon light?
5/12/2008 11:39:00 AM
Why yes I have! He is a great dancer. But, watch out for the hooves they really hurt your feet
when he dips you!
Mr. Weiss, when are you going to untie our hands and let us do our job?
When are you going to stay the hell out of our personal lives?
When are you going to do something about these anal retentive, micro-managing pricks(who've never done a bit of police work)that are in charge?
12:30
Wow. WTF! Dude, chill the fuck out. Bossman was just saying that CPD needs a unit to fight terrorism. TARA don't do that shit bro! You been to them cheesy classes. The instructors are a joke. They are only booksmart, but in reality, they don't know shit about dealing with terrorists. Next time...Give the man a chance to speak his mind, then you give your's. It's called effective commo. C-Ya!
Wow!!!!!!
5/13 at 1:52 PM (the "Wow. WTF! Dude")
What are you raving about? There's no previous 12:30 post that deals with terrorism, TARA, etc.
5/13/2008 1:52 PM
SAY WHAT?
I'm sure this was the dispatcher mocking J-Fed and his policy, if in fact it is true. The dispatchers frequent this site and most of them have a sense of humor. Lighten up
5/12/2008 10:10:00 PM
Nope, there has been and order out for a long time about assigning a supervisor to off-duty accidents.
5/13/2008 11:15:00 AM
It's very simple folks....take the friggin' FOP badges off your car, don't identify yourself as the police to the other person in the accident or to the calltaker at 911 and you will be treated just like anybody else!!!
"Thats okay if you stay home pussy. I guess there is a need for cowards in the world too.
J-FED IS ALL IN WITH A PAIR OF DUECES AND HE HAS SCARED YOU INTO FOLDING...CRYBABY
5/13/2008 12:45:00 PM"
Cut back on the 'roids, crystal and spanking your monkey, then give your mom a call and tell her you love her, (even if you don't mean it), she misses you.
11:24:00am:
Tell me you don't actually believe the bullshit you typed?
Please lay off the "Company man" mindset, open your eyes, and see WTF is going on in this department!
At least 80% of the police in NAGIS are there on a phonecall. BT, DT, and loving life in a beat car!
Why not promote off the list first, say the first 300. Then promote "merit only" and everyone gets to throw their hat into the ring, i.e. resume, arrests, etc. Read the officer's reports to see how well they can articulate. Check for medical roll abuse. You can't always go by the amount of CR's because a real working cop gets a complaint everytime he locks up pookie. That way the people who actually deserve the promotion by testing won't get screwed with seniority by the 30% merit.
If they maintain the same bs system, make all the merit promotions transparent. Who put the merit in and why. Why does this guy or gal should be a merit over someone else in the unit who works just as hard? Let the troops see who is being put in as their manager and why this person is chosen as a leader. It's unfair that a Cmdr. can only put in one or two "merits" in. They might not even be their "pick" and only doing someone a favor or repaying a favor. It's all politics and it is wrong.
I think the po from 004 posting at 12:30am on the 13th should realize that a "white shirt" can crush him like a bug. He would do well to leave his comments alone. Hear this blue shirt, the supervisor is in that position because he earned it. He attended the seminar on terrorism. He knows what he is talking about. Unlike you! You need to get some time on the job before you get brave on the keyboard. Pussy! FYI, take your meds and oh yeah... Relax Francis!
Hey supervisor in CPD!(post 11:30pm on 5/12/08) The Dept already has a Terrorism Unit...it's called T.A.R.A and they are the very best EXPERTS we have. They are NOT nitwits as you proclaim.I won't hammer you like the po from 004 did, but I will say you were too critical of T.A.R.A. Cheesy classes? You should be ashamed to call yourself a supervisor?
Now, there is a rumor that CPD is trying to form some type of terrorism task force, but I understand it will be the SAME T.A.R.A guys you call nitwits in the unit. A buddy of mine in 013 dist tells me he is going to be on this new T.A.R.A task force. He says they will be working with the Feds too. I'll believe it when I see it? All I see lately is specialized units getting downsized. I highly doubt CPD is going to start one from scratch?
Hey Boss, the T.A.R.A guys are all we have in understanding terrorism, so let up on them will you?
Oh, and ONE MORE THING, you should be glad there are po's other than SWAT willing to learn how to fire the M-4. Wet behind the ears? You never know when YOU yourself might need extra firepower. Military guys don't know anymore about terrorism than the rest of us. You are giving them way too much credit.
Anonymous said...
I think the po from 004 posting at 12:30am on the 13th should realize that a "white shirt" can crush him like a bug. He would do well to leave his comments alone. Hear this blue shirt, the supervisor is in that position because he earned it. He attended the seminar on terrorism.
One seminar does not make you a expert, sgt. Typical white shirt bullshit. You are in TARA due to a friendship with MT. Now you threaten blue shirts? Without blue shirts, you, as a white shirt might have to acttually work! OMG! A sgt work! TARA is a hiding place for frinds of MT.
car 47..J-FED got me a cat
I did TARA training a couple of weeks ago on the 3rd watch. What do you mean they have no experience? One instructor just got back from Iraq where he got first-hand knowledge of terrorist bombings. Another instructor is from that region and they speak arabic. How much more qualifications do you need? All the people their know their stuff. You do not know what you are talking about.
Aside from all his inadequacies and duplictity, the best description of J-Fed's personality:
He "exudes the charisma of a turnip."
(Yawn) Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Have you ever been drunk, introxicated?
5/12/2008 06:16:00 PM
Only while on-duty as a watch commander.
TARA Sgt.Doss couldn't find a terrorist in Basra. Worked in 009 with fellow racist partner Sadler then went to 021. Woo Hoo! Two hotbeds of terrorism. I like when he stands up in front of class with his vest loaded with explosives and wants you to spot it.
Hey Doss, the reason nobody spots your lame attempt is that we're all asleep from the week-long drivel from your "instructors" that passes as terrorism expertise.
TARA is just the latest in a long line of BS that this department creates on order to take care of a privledged few.
So, the Dept. is going to start a new terrorism task force huh? Well, if all the TARA guys are chosen for it, then we'll know it was just another clout unit made up for dogasses who didn't do shit on the street. What else is new?
Tobias probably hand chose the clout babies for it already. Sad thing is there are much more deserving po's in the dists, who actually deserve the shot!
Doss, you are a tool and your TARA class is nothing more than a lombotomy for a week!
-po in 008
Let me get this straight? SOS was disbanded. TRU is being downsized. Gang Intelligence is being downsized. NOW, the CPD is going to start a terrorism task force? Your buddy in 013 must be smoking crack. There ain't no way CPD can afford to start up a new unit?
My guess is that your buddy in 013 is trying to become TARA. That is an Academy position. Nuff said.
I heard the same rumor about the new TARA unit. It is going to headed by the Feds!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I think the po from 004 posting at 12:30am on the 13th should realize that a "white shirt" can crush him like a bug. He would do well to leave his comments alone. Hear this blue shirt, the supervisor is in that position because he earned it. He attended the seminar on terrorism.
One seminar does not make you a expert, sgt. Typical white shirt bullshit. You are in TARA due to a friendship with MT. Now you threaten blue shirts? Without blue shirts, you, as a white shirt might have to acttually work! OMG! A sgt work! TARA is a hiding place for frinds of MT.
5/14/2008 06:09:00 AM
Wow! That is another reason I "always" call for a sgt at most every job! Thanks for fucking over your fellow sgts more with your clout sgt jagoff! You want the money you will work how do you like me now!
5) a follow up call after your interview doesn't hurt either.
Remember, the supervisors who interview you want to get the best people in the unit, and most of them strive to do so; you may wind up working for them if you get there, and we all know that good workers do good investigations.
5/13/2008 11:24:00 AM
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At the conclusion of your Narcotics interview, the interviewer will tell you:
"Now is the time to make your phone call."
That is not a "follow-up" call. That is a chinaman call.
The supervisors want the best people?
What a joke.
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