Thursday, June 19, 2008

For the Old Timers

Does this bring back memories?

CLICK HERE for two really big pages of all sorts of Chicago Police memorabilia. The author has won a number of awards for his collection and is searching for other stuff. It's an impressive site and brings back a bunch of memories here. The younger crowd might like it, too.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shit! I used to live in 13? Were the wagons actually horse drawn friggin wagons?

6/19/2008 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The old districts were called precints way back when. The Maxwell Street station last used by CPD for the old Intelligence and Vice Sections, before it was turned over to UIC in 1998, has 7th Precint etched in the stone over the front door. I believe the 23rd District also has a precint number etched in the stone above the front door.

6/19/2008 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't make a date out on it but it is pre-O'Hare so pre-WWII.

That's even before my time, but I use to work with cops who would know what this map meant.

What is the date on it?

6/19/2008 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Not the Irish said...

Bring back the good old Irish cops and their batons and call box keys!!!


You did not have the problems you have today when the CPD had plenty of these guys around.

6/19/2008 02:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC

Barack Obama Bin-Laden says---

You Christians are driving me to drink, except Allah forbids alcohol.

My campaign staff in Michigan would not allow two Muslim women in hijabs (head scarves) on stage with the rest of their group because photographs were taken and news video was shot.

First, my campaign staff does not understand that both of these women could have been wearing burquas (which they will be forced to don after the election) and my doe-eyed empty-headed followers will ignore it, just as they ignored the Che Guevera flag in my Houstin campaign headquarters. The press will not report it because they are my followers also.

I cannot wait until after the election, when women will have to follow Sharia (Islamic Law). They will then be worth only 1/2 of a man.

6/19/2008 05:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shit !!!....008 was even too big then!

6/19/2008 06:48:00 AM  
Anonymous 25th District - Fillmore St. said...

1:42 AM

As recently as when O.W. Wilson came to town circa early 1960's.

Fillmore was shaped like an "lazy T" bounded by the city limits, 16th St., Kedzie Ave., the Kinzie RR tracks (400 N.) to Kenton RR tracks (4600 W.) to Madison St. and up to Austin Blvd.

The only current districts with the same boundaries back then were 016 and 017

6/19/2008 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd love to bring back the lettered inserts on the patches. Issue everybody the "TS" logo. Let the fine citizens figure it out for themselves!

6/19/2008 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should go back to the patches that show what district you work. You have to stare at someone's name tag now to see where they are from. Also stitch on name tag. Keep losing the backs of current nameplate all the time.

6/19/2008 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I knew a copper who went to Pima County Az. around 79 -80
(J. Bawulaski) anyone hear from him?

6/19/2008 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring back the good old Irish cops and their batons and call box keys!!!


You did not have the problems you have today when the CPD had plenty of these guys around.

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Maybe its not so much we had these guys around, but has more to do with who hadn't yet moved to Chicago.

6/19/2008 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC you are so full of shit! Like hell you remember anything from that site except the new stuff! You are probably just out of being a hair gell! I bet you have no more than 7-8 years on the dept. and are probably no more than 30 years old. No old school cop would do a blog site like this and ESPECIALLY use the word "asshat." That is for these new nancy boy college cops like you that bitch and moan about everything. You should have been on the street when it was actually tough. You sissy cry baby's would wet your panties!

Retired 011

6/19/2008 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there still is an old police station on halsted around 2100 N. think it might be the old 35th district it has "police station" in the front brick. its a clothing store or something now.

6/19/2008 04:36:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

SCC you are so full of shit! Like hell you remember anything from that site except the new stuff! You are probably just out of being a hair gell! I bet you have no more than 7-8 years on the dept. and are probably no more than 30 years old. No old school cop would do a blog site like this and ESPECIALLY use the word "asshat." That is for these new nancy boy college cops like you that bitch and moan about everything. You should have been on the street when it was actually tough. You sissy cry baby's would wet your panties!

Retired 011


Listen here dumbfuck (does that feel better?) Have you ever read the blog? Start to finish? Or just recently? We've NEVER said we served in those days. Go read what we wrote - "brings back a bunch of memories here." We've got nearly a century of family experience on this job. We remember fathers coming home, coaching baseball in those shirts, ice cream afterwards, maybe a few "confiscated" fireworks in July.

As for your "hair gel" crack, we're way closer to old school than hair gel. We've given old timers credit time and time again for their service. But the world changed years ago and the Department didn't leading to what we see today. Yeah, the bitching seems more intense, but maybe we're just able to connect to it citywide in ways you could never imagine via the blog, the internet, the cellular age. Cops have always bitched.

In any case, thanks for your service, but you're treading awfully close to asshat territory. Try not to make a habit of it.

6/19/2008 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw a cool picture of one of my uncles, taken at the old Maxwell St. station sometime in the late '50s, early '60s.

He was seated for a picture with the rest of the detective squad, but what was striking was the style they dressed in.

The well dressed detective back then wore white, short sleeve shirts with thin black bow ties.

For just a moment, I thought I was looking at a picture of the neighborhood good humour men. ;)

6/19/2008 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see the old fish symbol anywhere on the map from the Insane Fish days ;O

6/19/2008 06:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This map shows areas and districts. It has to be from the OW Wilson era. Apparently, he created the areas while we still had all those districts. Then he cut the number of districts to 20 or 21. 22-25 came in the 70's and 80's as a result of political pressures.

6/19/2008 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should go back to the patches that show what district you work.
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you are not the police sir. when talk to another fellow officer, we say "where do you work"? we dont stare at them like a moron or perv. go back to your parents basement and watch u-tube.

6/19/2008 08:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those old time irish cops were good at one thing - the wood shampoo.

Too bad things have changed now, cameras everywhere, cell phones that can record, etc, etc - I think a good old fashion wood shampoo and a stern warning not to repeat the bad deed again would still go a long way.

Just can not risk your job doing the old fashion stuff.

6/19/2008 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

knew a copper who went to Pima County Az. around 79 -80
(J. Bawulaski) anyone hear from him?

6/19/2008 09:47:00 AM

He got swallowed up by a man eating cactus!

6/19/2008 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting and nostalgic map. Having been in one of the early post-Wilson classes, I remember that configuration very well. I also remember going to work on the Third Watch in Lawndale, and checking off in Marquette on the evening of the change that consolodated the two stations. In those days it seemed like everything changed from day to day. Anyway, it was a good run. Thrity-nine years and some promotions made it a good career for me. Those pension checks keep coming, at least so far. You guys and girls should all stay safe. Maybe you should also give this new guy a chance, he may be for the best. O.W. sure was!

6/19/2008 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

asshat is a very stupid word oldschool = ASSHOLE

6/19/2008 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, it just goes to show that alot of people can read but they do not comprehend what it is they have read. Makes me wonder how some of these ASSHATS passed the entrance exam, since the one I took was 95% reading comprehension. Maybe its time for you to show the picture of an asshat again, as some of your readers don't know what exactly an asshat is! And before what I have said gets picked apart, I do have a callbox key, and even a dept. issued whistle.

6/20/2008 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This map shows areas and districts. It has to be from the OW Wilson era. Apparently, he created the areas while we still had all those districts. Then he cut the number of districts to 20 or 21. 22-25 came in the 70's and 80's as a result of political pressures.
6/19/2008 07:50:00 PM
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You are partially correct. O.W. did cut the number of districts to 21 in 1960-1961. There were areas as shown on the map before then. They were primarily administrative groupings of patrol precincts. Each area was under the command of what was called a Supervising Captain, remember that prior to Wilson the precincts/districts were commanded by Captains, with Lieutenants as Watch Commanders. Interesting sidelight, at least according to rumor: Initially O.W. planned for only 20 districts. Present day 21 (Praire Avenue) was to be part of the present day 2nd District (Wabash/Wentworth) and the First District (Central), but the newly appointed Commander of 2, a black Captain named Kinzie Bluett, wanted no part of the intellectual crowd in Hyde Park. He was only interested in what was then the "black belt" on the South Side. He prevailed over Wilson. 21 was then carved out of the 2nd District and the First District. This was all rumor, but it supposedly explained why 21 was numbered out of sequence geographically. Kinzie died a wealthy man!

The later additions were, at least in part, added through political maneuvering.

6/20/2008 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahh,when you could bbq in the nude and not get into trouble.

6/20/2008 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the 1970's the radio zones could only cover certain geographical areas. I was in Englewood and if you had a beat car that was assigned to the west end of the district, you got half the calls going on in Englewood and calls for the east side of 008. You were not on the same radio zone as half your district. That was pretty safe. You'd be driving around and see your buddies flying down the street with lights and sirens and not know what was happening in your own district. You'd have to ask your zone to ask another zone what was happening in your district. The good old days.

6/20/2008 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember the good old days when we had the really big blue hat and would walk around swinging our batons with our hands. We was so happy with our whistles, radios were not invented yet, and had to run to the nearest call box to report a crime. I loved those days. ret p.o. Herbert #1 class of 01-01 a.d.

6/20/2008 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Asshat is a geek boy computer nerd word reserved for young dorks that spend to much time on the internet. As a cop, you should be not only be embarassed, but ashamed, to use a word like that. Come on SCC, I know you have a desk job with the CPD, have a little self respect will ya!

6/20/2008 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Imagine the days of having two dispatchers,one for the Northside and one for the Southside. The radio was in the squad car and you had no siren,only your horn.

If you know an oldtimer,sitdown and have a drink with him sometime.

6/21/2008 05:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When real cops were on the job,with saps in a sap pocket.

6/22/2008 11:35:00 AM  

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