Tort Reform Please
- A trained nurse, Rachelle Jackson immediately ran toward the sound of the crash. A Chicago police car had collided with another vehicle and was starting to smoke, two officers still inside. Fearing an explosion, she quickly pulled one officer from the passenger side. She never imagined her act of kindness nearly six years ago would land her in jail for more than 10 months on charges that she robbed, battered and disarmed a peace officer.
Jackson filed a lawsuit, and on Thursday a federal jury found against the city and several Chicago police officers, awarding Jackson $7.7 million for false arrest, malicious prosecution, coercive questioning and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
Following two days in the CPD lockup, she signed an allegedly false confession and spent ten months in county. For this she gets $7.7 million? Where's the sense of proportion? Sorry to seem unsympathetic, but if we knew that we were completely innocent, there isn't a force on earth that would get us to sign any piece of paper - and she's not even alleging torture. She was hungry for two days and "threatened."
$7.7 million? Come on.
$7.7 million? Come on.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
124 Comments:
To everyone who likes to pile on the CC's for settling, what was the settlement $$$ the City told the woman to take a hike on?
The fight is over!
Live and learn from 5 feet: sun bathe, get manicures, be nice to everyone, look pretty = no worries!!!!
OT:
"Suchocki was not on duty the two nights in which the allegations were made in the three dropped cases, his lawyer said.".
Herein lies the problem. Our system for filing a complaint against officers is complete bullshit. Anyone can claim any officer did anything and not only is there an investigation but if it is found you were not even working that complaint stays in your file. Then some supervisors like Dana and Puddin Pop will dump 200 officers based on an arbitrary number of complaints in an officers file regardless what the final outcome was. THIS SYSTEM SUCKS AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE! GOT THAT F.O.P.!!!!!
Umm SCC, If your daughter was just killed and we put you in a small cell for 2-3 days. I bet i could get you to sign a confession. Wanna bet?
There has to be more to this story than being reported.
Anybody know the scoup on this one?
Please do tell us!
The payout was extreme but how about some focus on the stupid assholes who arrested her in the first place? Saves a copper's life and turns into a cb number?
I've almost been killed twice on this job and I didn't get shit. One time the guy got SWAP and the other time the guy got I small two year sentence. If it was the other way around I would be getting 20 or 30 years. No ribbons or anything lol those were saved for SOS and other paper jumpers. Just remember out there, don't let your family down by having them see you in pain from injuries or law suits. If this City wants to cry about money they should shut the fuck up and observe the new streets of hell.
sorry OT....
Police Thursday were investigating letters containing an unknown but harmless powdery substance that were sent to about half a dozen elected officials, including Chicago aldermen.
The letters arrived Thursday afternoon, and Chicago Fire Department personnel were called to test a powdery material inside them, spokesman Larry Langford said. The calls came from offices at the Daley Center, 50 W. Washington St., as well as several aldermanic offices, he said.
"In each case, the substance turned out to be absolutely benign," Langford said. He said the substance was turned over to police.
Maybe, just maybe, the usual suspects ran towards the police car with predictable results, police getting robbed and disarmed. We know how much police are loved in some 'hoods.
Then nursey comes along and gets snatched up in error. Could happen, maybe.
Who knows this case? Were the officers alert through and after the accident? Was a weapon or proceeds recovered from this woman? Were there other vultures taking shit from those officers?
There is not enough information in the short blurb on this blog to offer an educated opinion. She might have been telling the truth, she might be lying, who knows? We all know the police never lie or fabricate. I only say that after being the police here for 25 years. What's the real story here?
There must be some additional information! If not, the line was definately crossed and the critics need to shut up! If this nurse assisted in saving the life, or lives of two officers, for what conscionable reason was she arrested? Were ego's involved? On the surface, she should have been commended! But if this is exactly as described, whomever made the decision to arrest her should hold their head down in disgustable shame...and any awarded amount of money should not be given additional 'sound-bites' for this stupid police decision!
Sorry to seem unsympathetic, but if we knew that we were completely innocent, there isn't a force on earth that would get us to sign any piece of paper
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It's usually easier to intimidate women. I guess that's why people do it.
Don't do noting. This has gone outta control. Rome is here.
Why do all Michigan license plates start with the letter "B"?
There's a pretty clear lesson for the public here:
Don't help the Chicago PD in any way not explicitly required by law.
Yep, that'll help the police...
plaese dont tell me this is the 007 coppers who crashed in 009. That was pne of the worst things i ever saw. Those shitheads involved are truely savages.
this is the country,state,county and city we live in today. right or wrong...file a lawsuit. you have nothing to loose and MUCH to gain. side note..i wonder if there s an extra crispy section in hell just for lawyers? or like the movie little nicky..the lawyers get pineapples shoved up their asses by the devil?
Who settled this? Let me guess eddie burkes finance committee! between him and daley "our money" is their own personal piggy bank! No money for our contract but they give it all away to bullshit lawsuits! Do we have a law department? mara georges should of been fired long ago! inemt puts it mildly!
Ya gotta be f*king kidding! Did she do it or not? If she had nothing to do w/the theft of the weapon, I can see giving her something. She was housed for 10 months; there's got to be more to this story. What's the POs side of the story? Where's the FOP on this?
You are definetly behind enemy lines in some of those hoods; I guess were lucky those POs weren't
executed. Be careful.............
Help me here.....
A CPO makes an arrest and gets sued by the person for "whatever" reason and you feel that the CPO was wrongly accused.
A Nurse saves a CPO's ASS and is wrongly accused, but that is OK.
WTF?????????????
When did this happen. I don't remember it.
MORE OF MY TAX DOLLARS WASTED ON BULLSHIT!!!!...THANKS YOU LITTLE DICK!!!!!
I'm here to tell you that there is no need for TART REFORM. I really enjoy the apple, strawberry and peach tarts.
(Emily. We're talking about TORT reform)
Oh. Nevermind.
Umm SCC, If your daughter was just killed and we put you in a small cell for 2-3 days. I bet i could get you to sign a confession. Wanna bet?
Still wouldn't sign. You'd lose a lot of money on that bet.
If that was the 007th dist coppers accident NO WAY was she there to help her and her family/friends took those coppers guns PUT THE FULL STORY OUT THERE YOU SHIT MEDIA WHORES!
This WAS the coppers from 007 that crashed in 009 in 2002. This story is the furthest thing from the truth. ALSO, this woman is NOT a nurse, has NEVER been a nurse, and NEVER will be a nurse! Remember, the media HATES the police and there are two sides to every story.
When are these liberal juries going to realize this award money is coming out of their own pockets? This is a ridiculous amount of money for someone who just spent time in jail (because she probably didn't want to pay the bond) and alleged she didn't get fed. WTF people?
OK. So what do we need to do to make that happen? Referendum? Who do we contact? Aldercreatures? What are the chances of that happening? As good as Da mayor getting indicted.
can anyone confirm that she was arrested because she held the officers arms back after the officer was semi-conscious from being struck by a speeding car and the officer then had her weapon stolen from the opportunist mutts in the neighborhood because her arms were held by the arrestee ???
Is this the true part of the story no one will tell in the papers???
The jury supposedly hugged the arrestee after the monetary verdict was announced.....funny thing is the jury doesn't realize that the taxpayers will be paying this through parking tickets and photo enforced red light cameras....the joke is on the taxpayer
Who settled this? Let me guess eddie burkes finance committee! between him and daley "our money" is their own personal piggy bank! No money for our contract but they give it all away to bullshit lawsuits! Do we have a law department? mara georges should of been fired long ago! inemt puts it mildly!
6/13/2008 06:57:00 AM
Make sure you actually read the post next time before you make your ridiculous comment. They didn't settle. The City chose to go to trial...and unfortunately the outcome was not good. You must be one of those know-it-alls who always rags on Corp Counsel and has probably never been sued once. It's getting old.
OT
"We should run a cop or firefighter against every alderman in the city. If nothing else it would get our issues heard; a few might even win and what fun that might cause.
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There are a few problems with doing that. You have to remember that ALL the merit babies on both them jobs will still have to vote for their clout.
And we both have too many problems of fighting and not getting along within both of our ranks
And how many CFD will want to give up a nice part time job that pays well to do that other part time job?
Not enough info to make a difinitive judgement, but here's a take from a CFD medic....
I've been on the scene of several accidents involving police officers (CPD and otherwise). If the copper is conscious and able, I request that they remove their duty belt.(It's really uncomfortable to lay on a backboard with it on) I clear the weapon and give it to supervisor (CPD or CFD). Same goes for the occasional security guard.
On more than one occasion I've encountered officers with a severe enough head injury that the first thing they do is to reach for their weapon.
For me disarming an officer is a matter of my safety.
I, too, have had the local citizenry rummaging through cars while working on patients...
Don't do noting.
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Good advice for the nurse.
Bad result for cops.
So you sow, so shall ye reap.
Anybody who'd risk 10-11 months in jail to help some of you is a fool.
Better start wearing your nomex longjohns. There won't be many dummies willing to pull you out of a burning car. But, that's what you want, and that's what you'll get.
IF its the incident I'm thinking of, I was there that night. Occurred near Fuller park area, the area where a couple kids sitting in a car were shot of by Mickey Cobras a few years back and then Chief of Patrol, I believe, was quoted in the papers and on TV calling the offenders "savages." This incident occurred as described by the POs. Weapon was recovered same night from savage thugs who took it with the help of the F/1 (who I'm sure is only a CNA and not a nurse.) Unf%$ckingbelievable!!
She's probably a CNA. They clean bed pans for a living. I guess that makes you a nurse in the ghetto.
Don't make any arrest... Give reports and then tell them go get a warrant. Only arrests made should be warrants signed by the judge. This will get rid of all your liabililty.
Being an ex-Airborne Ranger (3rd Bn. 75th Ranger Regiment) and a sere grad,-
I can make you talk within 24 hours and I won't physically harm you in anyway.
I understand there is looting going on right now in Cedar Rapids. Furthermore the Department is looking for officers to be deployed to assist local law enforcement and the Iowa National Guard. O yea I lie.
Who knows what really happened in the confession room. SAhe could have signed because someone promised her it would be all over ans she would be released if she did. She could have signed without ever reading. Who knows. It is all a matter of conjecture at this point.
What I'm curious about, though, is why they even suspected her in the first place? Did they find the gun on her or another personal item from the officers? Did one of the officers snap out of the daze and see her try to take the gun? If it comes down to she was just simply standing there and the gun was gone, that is a pretty BS reason to hold her for over two days until she happened to confess.
Was the Surferboy really crying or just praticing for the Olympics?
"but if we knew that we were completely innocent, there isn't a force on earth that would get us to sign any piece of paper - and she's not even alleging torture."
You pretty clearly imply you would not even give in to torture, of any sort. Count me as another one who doesn't think (the anonymous) SCC is really Chuck Norris.
Got this from a very close source.
Female and male run up to crashed police vehicle with two female officers inside. Driver and passenger probably knocked heads in broadside accident when hit, so both are dazed. Driver pinned behind wheel, passenger exits to help partner.
Male tells the "plaintiff" hold her and get her shit. Plaintiff tries to get her star, struggle insues with "plaintiff" holding passenger officer in a full nelson hold while male reaches into vehicle and TAKES driver's weapon. He flees, hides gun, tells play uncle where gun is. Play uncle gets nabbed and gun recovered later. The male returns to scene to see what happened to female who could not get away with arrival of the calvary. CITIZEN WITNESSES quietly let the police know who they actually have as a witness is the female offender. She is pinched for battery on scene. The male gets pointed out and grabbed for disarming, vehicular invasion et al. Guy caught with gun pleads out. Male found not guilty on technicality because element of vehicular invasion is entering by force and it is unknown if window broke in accident or by offender.
Female also found not guilty...how I am a little unclear. At any rate "plaintiff gave confession to ASA...was fed was allowed use of washroom..blah blah blah. She was offered 75000 and said no...then we upped it...she said no...7.9 mil.
$7 million? $7 million dollars for being falsley accused and spending 10 months in jail????
I feel for the lady if innocent but $7 mil is fucking crazy!!!
Somethings going on here. I smell a scam. I think the settlement money is being spread around to more then the plantiff and her lawyer.
DW
NAC
there are some interesting articles out on the net about false confessions.
it turns out that commonly used police interrogation methods result in false confessions pretty regularly. it seems like the very methods that encourage the bad guys to confess sometimes convince those who are not the bad guys to also confess.
its a strange area of human nature.
Hope someone at least got a department commendation outta it.
anyone who believes everything they read in the papers is a fool. this was a bad accident and these fine citizens stole the officers gun. no one bothered to find out what actually happened to the officers. she wasn't trying to help the officers she was right there with all the other savages that were trying to rob two people that were helpless after an accident.
For all of you that are unfamiliar with the case, its amazing to me, somemone that was, after having sat in federal court for 8 days and listen to the piece of shit attorneys liken us to the russian military and refer to us as inhumane garbage, that even some police would still take her side and ask questions of the police involved.
Let's clarify a few things first. These so called heroes of the neighborhood held Brogan in a full nelson head lock while other pieces of shit disarmed her unconscious partner. The plaintiff after first claimimg to be a hero was later implicated by a witness as the individual in question holding Brogan in the full nelson headlock. This witness, later recanted his entire statement at 26th street and to make a long story short, it was thrown out.
Next, a states attorney from felony review took a handwritten and signed statement from this plaintiff as well as a polaroid picture of the full nelson used on Brogan which was all evidence!! And while we are on the topics of handwritten statements, let's also talk about the one the witness wrote along with and signed with that same states attorney. This same witness who yes, recanted his story like the piece of shit he is.
Oh by the way, the police who u second guess, on scene that night, not only got the scumbag who took the officer's gun, but also arrested the uncle of that same piece of shit trying to sell it at a nearby factory for dope money!!
The problem is we have so many people who lie on this job, about everything. They can't write a truthful report or make a truthful statement about anything. When an officer is by the book and tells the truth, as myself, a lot of the other officers think you are soft or a rat. Honesty & integrity is not looked highly upon by a lot or rank & file officers & supervisors. It's looked at as a weakness which is really sad. I've been here 10 years and all of you know what I'm talking about. This is why I never wanted to go to a tact/gang team or a lot of other units, because good integrity and honesty is not one of their prerequisites. This lawsuit verdict is a prime example of what the public thinks about the truthfulness of chicago cops. We all have allowed the liars to take control and ruin this department. And we all suffer because nobody believes us anymore.
Sorry to be long winded, but i am not quite finished. There was evidence of this woman being fed and taken to the washroom presented in the case all along.
So i guess to sum up---This so called hero, now 8 million dollars richer, was identified helping in the disarming of an injured officer and we still got guys second guessing the police---God i hate this fucking job! It's nobody's fault but these piece of shit witnesses that later recanted, mind you after giving handwritten statements to an ASA at felony review!
Don't sit here at 2 in the morning and second guess what happened that night!! I have been on this god forsaken job awhile and seen some stupid things done by P/o's--hell i've done them i'm sure! But noone is to blame accept the garbage on the street that night. I hope the media is reading this too!!! You have taken all that is good from being the police and killed it.
Oh yes---still going!! Sitting in federal court for a week and being told what a piece of shit we all were and what bad people we were for trying to do our jobs is real fun let me tell ya! I used to like doing my job and going to work, now all I do is worry about who will sue us next and for what bullshit? The media, and yes some of the bad p/o's are to blame, have taken all that was good and killed it. To the media we are only worth the next scandal or bad thing they can dig up to sell papers or spice up their broadcast.
2:36 AM
You idiot, they robbed the police officers weapons and star.
SCC,
Go fuck yourself. If the plaintiff had been a cop and the civilian had been alleged to have punched and broken the nose of the said officer, you would be thrilled to see a verdict of 7.7 million dollars. You'd be shouting from the rooftops. You don't really want tort reform. You just want no civilians to be able to recover money as a result of police misconduct.
P.S. Tort reform fucks labor and the little guy. It protects the powers that be. Stop listening to all that right wing rhetoric and try getting laid instead. It's way more fun.
off topic, did anyone notice on the fop website the city's proposal regarding the 6th working day? the same pilot program as before , they actually used the same proposal and just crossed out the old dates
it just never ends.....
my hats off to all of you that still work. But when you get jammed up, sued and suspended for some BS, dont go crying.
The same boss that told you to go out there and do something, will be the first to get a number on you.
Ya gotta be f*king kidding! Did she do it or not? If she had nothing to do w/the theft of the weapon, I can see giving her something. She was housed for 10 months; there's got to be more to this story. What's the POs side of the story? Where's the FOP on this?
You are definetly behind enemy lines in some of those hoods; I guess were lucky those POs weren't
executed. Be careful.............
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Right. What are the facts? I never even heard of this case. Must have happened deep in the bowels of the God-forsaken southside or something.
SCC,
"Tort Reform" is something Daley and corporate America want. It's not reform at all.
You are a City/Daley agent fooling unsuspecting coppers with your allegedly conservative views.
You're not foolin' me, Daley lover.
scc, how much would you give her for doing ten months in jail after saving a po, 51 hours of straight coercive testimony without access to a bathroom?
SCC:"but if we knew that we were completely innocent, there isn't a force on earth that would get us to sign any piece of paper"
BURGE
Maybe, just maybe, the usual suspects ran towards the police car with predictable results, police getting robbed and disarmed. We know how much police are loved in some 'hoods.
Then nursey comes along and gets snatched up in error. Could happen, maybe.
Who knows this case? Were the officers alert through and after the accident? Was a weapon or proceeds recovered from this woman? Were there other vultures taking shit from those officers?
There is not enough information in the short blurb on this blog to offer an educated opinion. She might have been telling the truth, she might be lying, who knows? We all know the police never lie or fabricate. I only say that after being the police here for 25 years. What's the real story here?
6/13/2008 05:58:00 AM
The real story is, KV and KB were driving to 43/Wallace to get some lunch, get broadsided at 43/Princeton by some jag who ran the stop sign. Police car is spun so that it comes to rest facing north bound on Princeton. KV is completely unconscious (and is actually off the job now because of this accident, that's how bad her head trauma was). An actual concerned citizen does come to their help and sprays a fire extinguisher on the hood of the squad car. Now here's where the "nurse" comes into play. She along with two other accomplices drag KB out of the car using a half nelson and proceed to disarm her and take her star, as well as KV's duty weapon. KB is dragged up onto the front steps of the house located on the northeast corner of 43/Princeton. Now, during all of this she never lost consciousness, now to all of you naysayers I only know this because this is what she told us, but she was able to radio for assistance. I along with alot of 007th and 009th district guys show up to this situation. Now numerous people on scene told us what happened, and no this "nurse" was not just picked up because she showed up later, she was picked up because she is scum and tried, and succeeded to disarm two helpless Chicago Police Officers. If this lady truely is a nurse, i hope there is a special place in Hell reserved for her, because not only did she go against whatever oath she swore to help people in distress, now she is taking our tax money for being scum. And to 2:36 AM, GFY. You weren't there, so you don't know what kind of scum you're talking about. This "nurse" should be spending the rest of her life incarcerated, not collecting 7.9 million from the city. Yeah that's right, it isn't 7.7. The paper got it wrong. If I'm remembering right both officers guns were taken and one of their stars was taken. All of these were recovered that same night through some excellent interviewing and all three offenders were able to be identified and locked up
Beefer had 1 nursing class and quit........ what a farce. Assisted in disarming a P.O and this is the result. KMA Juries/citizens hate the police. Remember that when giving service
Was not a nurse ! But of course to the media 1 class would qualify as sufficient traing.Check all the calls to 911, calls from people witnessing incident. This broad had no business putting a injured P.O. in a full nelson.... newspapers need to hire P.O.s to get real story . This is BSSSSSSSSS. Newspaper reporters suck at getting the truth. Seems everyone that has responded so far takes the media at what is in print as the truth. Far from it. Public, wake up... these are your tax dollars. Get the reports through the freedom of information act, listen to the calls to 911. Stop believing every cop is a liar. The media is influencing our citizens and ruining our city. Prospective.. take a mixed ethnic population of 8,000-13,000 people in a given geographic area.. How many folks would get arrested yearly ? Compare to a police population. Folks wake up, you need us. The alternative is not pretty.
We already know SCC has more composure and street-smarts than some lady who gets picked up out of a clear blue with no previous involvement in the system. That's not really a very interesting question to debate here.
But "regular people" are pretty defenseless against regular interrogation tactics. That's why it's easy for bad things to happen when they get caught up in these cases...and they do...
THIS SYSTEM SUCKS AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE! GOT THAT F.O.P.!!!!!
6/13/2008 12:34:00 AM
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Yes we got it.
FOP will not comment at this point like in all instances we feel it is more professional to let the "thing" just go away with time.
WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING! TRUST US!
Our regime is based on doing nothing and letting the story run its course.
It is really quite ingenious and it keep us out of the fire as we represent YOU the real officers. Not the ones that are bad according to the newspapers.
Keep sending in the dues and we will see you all at the PICNIC!
BUSY BUSY lately so if I do not see you all Happy Fathers Day!
Stay out of trouble!
MD
Being an ex-Airborne Ranger (3rd Bn. 75th Ranger Regiment) and a sere grad,-
I can make you talk within 24 hours and I won't physically harm you in anyway.
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Oh you're sooooo cool!
It isn't gonna happen. As long as these politicians keep getting their palms greased by the attorneys Tort Reform wont even come up for a vote. Plus the settlements are come out of tax payers pockets.
The Real story, the same guy who started the "throw the patrolman in from of oncoming traffic unit" also ran this sting.
Put two officers in a marked car, have them smash into someone or something at high speed and watch to see who robs them.
What kind of lawyers does this asshole department hire anyway?
Right. What are the facts? I never even heard of this case. Must have happened deep in the bowels of the God-forsaken southside or something.
6/13/2008 01:40:00 PM
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How much time do you have on this job you dipshit? Talk to any one with 6+ on and they'll tell youall about it.
And why don't you try doing some some work and dealing with these animal sub humans on the south side sometime in your career instead of hiding north
Ha Ha the city never goes to trial and pays out. Now when they have a shithead who doesn't want their go away money do not know how to win a case in trial. The police did their part by catching all the offenders, the $7.9 million award is the fault of the incompetent City Attorneys. I at least hope they have common sense to appeal the verdict.
RE: I've been on the scene of several accidents involving police officers (CPD and otherwise). If the copper is conscious and able, I request that they remove their duty belt...
The gun was missing long before any paramedics showed up. Get your facts straight! A savage that was with R. Jackson disarmed the driver. Don't you love how that part never made the newspaper! Same savage told Jackson to go over and grab KB b/c KB was getting out of the car on her own. Jackson, in a drunk stuper, not only put KB in a full-nelson, but tried to disarm her. This was all witnessed by a m/1 who lived right there. This same m/1 flipped on the stand b/c he was too afraid to testify against his own kind. Talk about protecting your own! Jackson probably promised this witness some tall cash. He is the reason this case was thrown out in the first place!
Not only was this woman NOT a nurse, she hasn't worked in her whole life. She hasn't payed taxes in over ten years and currently collects food stamps! What is wrong with this system! Liberal juries need to wake up! Someone report her to the IRS!
Not only did this woman put KB in a full nelson, she injured her for life. KB is still dealing with a shoulder injury and if I'm not mistaken, just had surgery to repair the damage caused from this woman. Where is KB's compensation?!
What kind of "nurse"? An RN or a CNA. If CNA, every fucking one of them have a felony conviction for crack and work in nursing homes.
That's right, folks.
6/13/2008 11:42:00 AM
What the fuck? Why isn't she in prison?
To the poster who thinks tort reform fucks labor and the little guy: If by helping the little guy you mean higher taxes, more regulations, less freedom, an inefficient government, and making rich lawyers richer. You don't have to guess cockbreath-look at the states with laws favoring jackpot justice (Illinois) versus those that don't (Texas). Even a moron like you can see plainly that tort reform helps WORKING people in real life. The only people it hurts are bottom feeders like yourself and lawyers. That bitch helped rob those officers, and now a group of Cook County idiot jurors gave her and her lawyer millions. How does that help labor? It sure didn't help those 2 FOP dues paying coppers.
How the fuck can this happen? If the accounts of the crime are accurate, how in the world could a jury find against the police? This was a jury jury? Did the state fuck up? Were they idiots?
By Monique Garcia and David Heinzmann | Tribune reporters
11:07 PM CDT, June 12, 2008
Did these two assholes interview anyone else but the "nurse."
Have you learned your lesson?
Has anyone one learned a lesson here?
Keep fuckin' with them people and you will get pulled into the shit, too.
Anonymous said...
Don't make any arrest... Give reports and then tell them go get a warrant. Only arrests made should be warrants signed by the judge. This will get rid of all your liabililty.
6/13/2008 10:53:00 AM
I just served a suspension for allegedy failing to arrest a retard. I took him to a hospital for observation. My nutless boss says I should have arrested him.
This story makes no sense & I don't believe it.
'If' a civilian came to the rescue of an injuried officer, there's no way in hell other officers would have reacted as such as stated in this story by the media.
There are many missing puzzles to this story...
"When are these liberal juries going to realize this award money is coming out of their own pockets?
6/13/2008 08:17:00 AM"
You make the presumption that anyone on this particular jury WAS a taxpayer, as in a person who works for their income and, thus, pays taxes with monies that they earned.
"OK. So what do we need to do to make that happen? Referendum? Who do we contact? Aldercreatures? What are the chances of that happening? As good as Da mayor getting indicted.
6/13/2008 08:18:00 AM"
Start by resolving to register to vote, vote in every election and to never, ever vote to reelect an Incumbent that you're not ABSOLUTELY SURE is worthy of holding the specific public office they are seeking to be reelected to.
Then apply the worthiness standard to every candidate who has ever held public office, been appointed or hired by an elected office holder, or is related, in any way, to an elected public office holder, current or former.
Vote to NOT RETAIN every sitting Judge, unless you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that a given Judge up for retention is worthy of remaining in office.
Every elected office, be it city, county or state, requires a specific number of registered voter signatures on the petition for nomination for that office.
Determine the numbers required, decide which publicly elected positions require the least number of signatures and get busy collecting as close to twice as many signatures as each office requires.
Signatures for who, you say?
Why, whoever you choose.
After all, no matter who the individuals are, they cannot possibly be less qualified to serve the publics' best interests than the pieces of shit in office now, can they?
"And how many CFD will want to give up a nice part time job that pays well to do that other part time job?
6/13/2008 09:10:00 AM"
You are kidding, right?
Paramedic/Nursing 101: In the case of an accident with potential spinal injury, don't move the injured until you are able to maintain spinal stabilization. If this "nurse" knew anything her first move would not have been to drag these officers out. The car wasn't on fire. The radiator was steaming.
"Folks wake up, you need us. The alternative is not pretty.
6/13/2008 03:25:00 PM"
Since the people won't listen to reason, let them learn from experience.
After all is said and done, experience is the best teacher.
Experience what a city devoid of law enforcers is like, then see what the publics' opinion becomes.
How much time do you have on this job you dipshit? Talk to any one with 6+ on and they'll tell youall about it.
And why don't you try doing some some work and dealing with these animal sub humans on the south side sometime in your career instead of hiding north
6/13/2008 05:38:00 PM
lemme guess...there is only crime on the southside ??? you are a goof ! why would I want to drive to the southside to work ? I don't even like being there when detailed there. I'll meet you in 011 or 015...idiot.
Don't worry.
Whatever the eventual payout is, once she gets her cut, those who know her, and/or are related to her, will be looking to get some for themselves.
Just like that 5 pack recently cleared, she'll end up being another type of headline.
"Not only did this woman put KB in a full nelson, she injured her for life. KB is still dealing with a shoulder injury and if I'm not mistaken, just had surgery to repair the damage caused from this woman. Where is KB's compensation?!
6/13/2008 07:13:00 PM"
Sounds like a lawsuit is in order, now that the negligent/offending party has something to pay a judgment with.
Was the Surferboy really crying or just praticing for the Olympics?
6/13/2008 11:25:00 AM
WTF are u talking about?
THIS SYSTEM SUCKS AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE! GOT THAT F.O.P.!!!!!
6/13/2008 12:34:00 AM
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Yes we got it.
FOP will not comment at this point like in all instances we feel it is more professional to let the "thing" just go away with time.
WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE DOING! TRUST US!
Our regime is based on doing nothing and letting the story run its course.
It is really quite ingenious and it keep us out of the fire as we represent YOU the real officers. Not the ones that are bad according to the newspapers.
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HELLO YOU TWO CRYBABY MOTHERFUCKERS. I DON'T SUPPOSE EITHER OF YOU BITCHES WANTS TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY HOW FOP COULD HAVE STOPPED THIS JURY VERDICT FROM HAPPENING. YOU TWO RETARDS PROBABLY DID NOT EVEN VOTE IN FOP ELECTIONS. YOU CERTAINLY DID NOT RUN FOR OFFICE.
ANYWAY, THE FOP'S JOB IS NOT TO CRY VICTIM EVERY TIME A JURY GOES AGAINST US. THAT'S YOUR JOB. STOP DOING IT ON A COP BLOG. DO SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YOUR LIFE, WHINING LOSERS.
She hasn't payed taxes in over ten years and currently collects food stamps! What is wrong with this system! Liberal juries need to wake up! Someone report her to the IRS!
6/13/2008 07:07:00 PM
You seem to have all the facts, so why don't you do it? What's that? You're full of shit? Yeah, just as I thought.
Don't worry, she'll be broke in a year spending it on drugs, lotto, the boats and Vegas and poof!! it will all be gone! Don't forget the scum attorney gets 1/3.
Time to get rid of Georges and get a top notch Corp Counsel who can put a good team together and fight these cases. They can't win or they plea out everyone. Bad guy always walks away richer if the city is sued. We need the best of the best protecting this city.
Being an ex-Airborne Ranger (3rd Bn. 75th Ranger Regiment) and a sere grad,-
I can make you talk within 24 hours and I won't physically harm you in anyway.
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Stop doing that while you're typing.
You'll go blind.
Right now, the citizens of the City of the Chicago should righly know that dope dealers, gangbangers, and dedicated lifetime criminals CONTROL the streets...that is why decent citizens, even the ones who live in the lowest economic areas DO NOT cooperate with police; BECAUSE
the reality is that they know these criminals have MORE POWER THAN CPD.
we have been DECLAWED lest we violate the criminals' civil rights.
JODY? JFED? Jjudas? you know what that means being a pussycat owner...once they are declawed, THEY CANNOT GO OUTSIDE ON THE STREETS...
see, jfed knows exactly what he is doing. Criminal mayor midget loves you for exactly that reason...YOU ARE PURR-FECTLY SUITED FOR HIS KIND OF POLICE WORK.
"Did these two assholes interview anyone else but the "nurse."
6/13/2008 07:53:00 PM"
Why would they?
The 'story' is about winning the tort lottery, making 'the man' pay for being 'bad', 'justice' being served, like so much shit on a platter, not, as far as the ass-paper is concerned, about the facts of the case.
The only reliable source for said facts is here.
I can't fathom a payout like this for a Criminal who engaged in disarming an officer and having her accomplice take a gun and a Police Star. Firtst off the A.S.A.'s office gave this bitch ammunition for a civil suit when they they dropped the charges. Then our fine attorneys in The Corporation Counsel totally dropped the ball. Any deal this big had to have some kind of inside deal with attorneys working both ends of the pectrum. Everybody gets a piece of the pie. Sounds like an Alderman Burke the Crook deal to me. Hmmmm???
She's probably a CNA. They clean bed pans for a living. I guess that makes you a nurse in the ghetto.
The Truth said...
Of course it does. Just like security guards.....They're one of us.
Ha Ha the city never goes to trial and pays out. Now when they have a shithead who doesn't want their go away money do not know how to win a case in trial. The police did their part by catching all the offenders, the $7.9 million award is the fault of the incompetent City Attorneys. I at least hope they have common sense to appeal the verdict.
6/13/2008 05:54:00 PM
How can it be the fault of the "incompetent City Attorneys" when the plaintiffs were represented by one of them "Fancy" law firms that attract all the top notch lawyers?
Good investigating.... It is really hard to figure out who the lawyers were - you had to read the article in the Tribune, and then look up the defense attorney.
To you media and concerned citizens reading this topic. Several contributors gave excellent accounts of the facts. But you're hung up on the "written confession". Any hand-written statement is taken by the FELONY REVIEW ASSISTANT STATES ATTORNEY. Not the Police.
And to any of you who call themselves CPD and want to give comfort to the "nurse", you nauseate me.
"WTF are u talking about?
6/13/2008 10:37:00 PM"
Do you really want to know?
the injured po won't even be able to sue the "nurse" for damages because of the Good Samaritan Law. I'd love to know what type of training she had to be called a "nurse"
Sounds like she held the alert/oriented officer while the altered po was robbed by the man. If she were really any type of medical professional she would have triaged the two victims and went to the aid of the unresponsive po first.
Did the flippin states attorney use even ONE expert witness? I bet there would have been a line of CFD EMT-P's,REAL RN's,and Docs that would have testified as to proper assessment free of charge.
EVERY COPPER SHERIFF AND ATTORNEY IVE SEEN IN LOCK UP BROKE DOWN!
AND I DO MEAN AS A PRISONER.
IT AINT WORTH DA MONEY SHE GOT BUT PLEASE DONT ACT LIKE UR MCCAIN BEING TORTURED FOR MONTHS. COPPERS BREAK DOWN JUST LIKE POOKIE ASK UR SOS BUDDIES WHO ARE CUTTING DEALS NOT TO GO TO A FED JAIL.
Live and learn from 5 feet: sun bathe, get manicures, be nice to everyone, look pretty = no worries!!!!
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Yeah and die of cancer and emphysema..
Figures this would come from an ex-TRU Supercop
Not only did this woman put KB in a full nelson, she injured her for life. KB is still dealing with a shoulder injury and if I'm not mistaken, just had surgery to repair the damage caused from this woman. Where is KB's compensation?!
6/13/2008 07:13:00 PM
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Simple solution for the citizen. Just keep walking. Nobody loses a gun or a star. [Probably] nobody gets accused of anything. Let the chips fall [or roast] where they may.
Being an ex-Airborne Ranger (3rd Bn. 75th Ranger Regiment) and a sere grad,- \-----------------------
There is no such thing as an ex- Airborne Ranger. That training stays with you for life. And why did you join CPD? You should have joined Executive Outcomes, like I did, because it is where you belong.
Years ago, my partner and I responded to a radio call of "fight in the alley" in a quiet industrial area off of Grand avenue in the 013 district...what we rode in on was a gang fight between rival motorcycle gangs with
50-60 participants...we called for back-up...when I told these assholes to get going; I was immediately attacked by 5 or 6 guys, beating me, a uniformed CPD officer,with a chain, fists, and feet...they ripped my shirt, w/star off my back...same with my partner only he was hurt with baseball bats...I fired my secondary weapon 3 times (never reported)...
when the calvary arrived with my SGT..we were rescued...and ordered to LEAVE THE AREA...we both got the summer off, IOD...per advice of SGT, secondary weapon disappeared...guess what...those motorcycle gang assholes, never sued the City or us...
The problem is we have so many people who lie on this job, about everything. They can't write a truthful report or make a truthful statement about anything. When an officer is by the book and tells the truth, as myself, a lot of the other officers think you are soft or a rat. Honesty & integrity is not looked highly upon by a lot or rank & file officers & supervisors. It's looked at as a weakness which is really sad. I've been here 10 years and all of you know what I'm talking about. This is why I never wanted to go to a tact/gang team or a lot of other units, because good integrity and honesty is not one of their prerequisites. This lawsuit verdict is a prime example of what the public thinks about the truthfulness of chicago cops. We all have allowed the liars to take control and ruin this department. And we all suffer because nobody believes us anymore.
6/13/2008 12:19:00 PM
You need to find yourself another job...because you are a fucking nightmare waiting to happen.
Do you really want to know?
6/13/2008 11:52:00 PM
No.
This woman took nursing classes for one semester and flunked out. To be more accurate, she was enrolled in "nursing classes" for one semester and flunked out. She confessed, and several eyewitnesses gave statements implicating her. She gets charged after all this takes place. 10 months later the eyewitnesses all flip in court and she says she was forced to sign a confession. You can't win. Two police officers are injured pretty seriously and robbed. Don't you think the police would want to arrest the offender. Why on earth would the police "frame" someone. If one of our own gets hurt, what good is arresting the wrong person? We want the right person arrested. There is absolutely no motive whatsoever to arrest just anyone. Our motive is to arrest the right person.
6/13/2008 09:31:00 PM:
Vote to NOT RETAIN every sitting Judge, unless you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that a given Judge up for retention is worthy of remaining in office.
That's a radical change from your previous "don't evah vote for any incumbent" doctrine. Did you or your life-partner recently get appointed to the bench?
"Simple solution for the citizen. Just keep walking. Nobody loses a gun or a star. [Probably] nobody gets accused of anything. Let the chips fall [or roast] where they may.
6/14/2008 06:49:00 AM"
Okay, Corky, now what were you told about playing with the staff's computer?
No Puddin' Pops for you, you bad, bad, little boy.
Right now, the citizens of the City of the Chicago should righly know that dope dealers, gangbangers, and dedicated lifetime criminals CONTROL the streets...that is why decent citizens, even the ones who live in the lowest economic areas DO NOT cooperate with police; BECAUSE
the reality is that they know these criminals have MORE POWER THAN CPD.
we have been DECLAWED lest we violate the criminals' civil rights.
JODY? JFED? Jjudas? you know what that means being a pussycat owner...once they are declawed, THEY CANNOT GO OUTSIDE ON THE STREETS...
see, jfed knows exactly what he is doing. Criminal mayor midget loves you for exactly that reason...YOU ARE PURR-FECTLY SUITED FOR HIS KIND OF POLICE WORK.
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It all starts here, wait until the crime heads to the rich and yuppies.
Lesson here. When we got hit, shot or robbed, fellow officers can arrest no one, let it be. We are now professional victims who have to take it. Thanks. Criminals run this town and the media defends rapist and thugs.
Atrained nurse, from where? Is she an RN/ LPN? Stop bunching the true professionals with CNA's or nurse "techs".
If the Hired Truck scandal was worthy of a series, why not an investigative report of city law suit payouts that give both sides of the story and then how and why the pay out is made.
A "trained" nurse? Last I checked, nurses are licensed or registered. Sounds like a dropout to me.....
"That's a radical change from your previous "don't evah vote for any incumbent" doctrine. Did you or your life-partner recently get appointed to the bench?
6/14/2008 02:23:00 PM"
What part of ABSOLUTELY SURE is puzzling to you?
Start by resolving to register to vote, vote in every election and to never, ever vote to reelect an Incumbent that you're not ABSOLUTELY SURE is worthy of holding the specific public office they are seeking to be reelected to.
Been doing it for over twenty years. Never missed a vote but for military service. Effect? None. We live amongst retards and they out number us. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Anonymous said...
Years ago, my partner and I responded to a radio call of "fight in the alley" in a quiet industrial area off of Grand avenue in the 013 district...what we rode in on was a gang fight between rival motorcycle gangs with
50-60 participants...we called for back-up...when I told these assholes to get going; I was immediately attacked by 5 or 6 guys, beating me, a uniformed CPD officer,with a chain, fists, and feet...they ripped my shirt, w/star off my back...same with my partner only he was hurt with baseball bats...I fired my secondary weapon 3 times (never reported)...
when the calvary arrived with my SGT..we were rescued...and ordered to LEAVE THE AREA...we both got the summer off, IOD...per advice of SGT, secondary weapon disappeared...guess what...those motorcycle gang assholes, never sued the City or us...
6/14/2008 10:02:00 AM
What is your point? Why did you get involved before help arrived? Why rat out the sgt who helped you? Sounds like you should SFTU!
SCC:"Sorry to seem unsympathetic, but if we knew that we were completely innocent, there isn't a force on earth that would get us to sign any piece of paper"
So old sparky(EE-8A) or a trip to the Cal Sag wouldnt do it??
What part of ABSOLUTELY SURE is puzzling to you?
6/15/2008 01:16:00 AM
The ABSOLUTELY SURE part.
Make sure that Ginger Rugai gets voted out next time.... spineless bitch backed up Richie's illegal land grab! Claims to be for the police, but the only police that she has ever helped are the ones who make BIG contributions to the 19th Ward Democratic Fund.... check it out on "Open Book"! Every merit promotion out of the 19th ward is listed there with how much and how often they gave.... When Tom Hynes decided to post that information, it kind of broke bad on you didn't it Ginger?
6/14/2008 03:22:00 PM:
Keep your staff and puddin' pops to yourself, Festus. Don't tell me you don't remember the terms of your probation. The judge told you not to have any physical contact with little boys.
Shame on you.
That's why it's easy for bad things to happen when they get caught up in these cases...and they do...
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and why no one, including coppers, should talk to police except in the presence of their lawyer.
with a few very rare exceptions.
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