Will This Scandal Never Die?
We see this damn thing rising from the grave again and again and again:
Retired detectives named in a decades-old Chicago Police torture scandal have been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury -- a clear sign a criminal investigation into former Cmdr. Jon Burge and others is ramping up, sources said today.
Five to 10 detectives received subpoenas last week to appear June 19 before the grand jury. The probe is headed by Sergio Acosta, civil rights coordinator in the U.S. attorney's office in Chicago, the sources said.
There was a $20 million settlement for a bunch of this, the statute of limitations ran out on a bunch of other crap. Are they going after the retired detectives under the latest theory that the "conspiracy" continued for years afterwards, therefore extending the statute of limitations? It seems a stretch.
And is anyone going to point out the main beneficiary of the alleged torture currently sits in the Fifth Floor of City Hall? The City has spent millions defending these suits and millions more settling these suits. How much more tax money is going to be spent? How much more bad publicity is the Department going to have to go through?
And is anyone going to point out the main beneficiary of the alleged torture currently sits in the Fifth Floor of City Hall? The City has spent millions defending these suits and millions more settling these suits. How much more tax money is going to be spent? How much more bad publicity is the Department going to have to go through?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Joe Roddy has been hired by the city to represent the detectives, both active and retired. How much more can they put these men thru?
Look at the histories of the mutts.
IF THESE MORON SAY A WORD THEY WILL BE HANGED!
PERJURY PERJURY PERJURY!
EVERY TIME A LIE IS SPOKEN WILL BE 1 COUNT!
CONSPIRACY OUCH!
THEY WILL ASK DID YOU LIE ON THIS REPORT AND IF THE SAY NO BANG CONSPIRACY 1 COUNT!
THE FUNNY PART ABOUT ALL THIS IS THESE DICKS WITH ALL THEIR SKILLS WENT AND GOT JOBS WITH THE STATE AND COOK COUNTY!
SO IM GUESSING THEY DONT HAVE MUCH CASH 4 A GOOD FED LAWYER.
OH AND HERE THE SECRET ANGLE
DICK TORTURES POOKIE.
POOKIE CONFESSES.
POOKIE SENTENCED TO DEATH.
POOKIE CASE HAS HOLES(HINT DNA)
IS THAT CONSPIRACY TO COMMIT MURDER UNDER THE COLOR OF LAW...
THE MAYOR AND DICK DEVINE SHOULD BE ON THE LIST IF THEY ARENT ITS FIXED !
It stated it was from the 70's and 80's some of these guys are in wheel chairs for now! They are old wtf! Lets spend more tax payer money come on get the real criminal daley and his "crew"! Bury it over and done! Will the battle against cpd ever stop! Lesson to the young coppers do something or not and 30-40 years later they can still get you! If you do any proactive policing please see a shrink now! Write your paper answer jobs and do nothing more look at this bullshit risen from the ashes again! as stated many times on different threads look at what they did to Billy Cozzi they fucked him but good and you could be next!
Mayor McMumbels worked in the States Attorneys Office back then and he has the answers but claims to know nothing.
He needs to be recalled as Mayor!
We need a fresh Mayor!
Where is Junior Daley?
this is very true I will be happy to let you know what happens. These jagoff's
This is a travesty of justice. A convicted felon (George Ryan) lets other convicted felons go free. The system goes after the police. Since the statute of limitations expired the politicos parade the men in front of the Federal Grand Jury, to circumvent the system. We now have murderers walking around freely while we spend our tax dollars screwing retired police officers.
Sorry guys you wasted your lives on nothing.... People if it ain't you, your partner or a family member "I don't see nothing, don't hear nothing, don't know nothing."
i hope mr burge is sipping on cocktails and laughing at all this bullshit. to the man who made it very unpleasent for the wilson bastards, god bless you. the whore media should focus on how both of these savages made it to trial alive.
sorry off topic please tell me the bad bosses in 025.
"How much more tax money is going to be spent? How much more bad publicity is the Department going to have to go through?"
As much as it takes to distract the publics' attention from the real, and ongoing, criminal conspiracies engaged in by the many 'you know who's'.
Hey, when nobody, or a worse, a hoodlum is at the throttle of the train, it's going to run over and into things and eventually off a cliff.
Nobody's been in charge at the Chicago PD and a criminal's been in charge at city hall for years. The CPD Express is headed for the gorge and the bridge is out...
Mumbles the Midget was the SA at the time. Think he'll get caught up in this? Blahhhahahahaha. They'll try to burn some retired cops and let the big fish get away again. Federal law enforced in Chicago? Get serious. Please.
Whatever,,Told to shut of car when not going to calls,to save gas,,how can i make arrest if i cant get thier.Car 47 can you help me..Do you have a bike or can i ride ur back to work.Because you have always rode police officers backs for yeARS.nICE JOB ON THE THIRD GUN YOU EVER RECOVERED IN YOUR WHOLE LIFE AS A POLICE OFFICER OR SGT.And thanks for the wrong information on where the cta exit points where in the 001st dist,,you almost cost someone life you retard..
Isn't Sergio Acosta, the US Attorney in charge of the witch hunt a cousin of Aaron Patterson's attorney, Acosta? Only in Chicago.
I'd say go forward with this full steam if the coppers get immunity and testify against the Cook County States Attorney at the time.
Maybe Joe Roddy can cut a deal for the cops, immunity for retired police in exchange for testimony against the stuttering prick.
obviously nothing happened in the city yesterday and since the sun times is hardly selling any papers they feel the need to put a story in the front page that would otherwise not attract any readers hence no sales and stories like these do sell papers. wont be long before the times goes under at the rate theyre going
answer to 0201 the new batch of bosses in 25 are pretty good. i know the commander, he was and still is the police. this guy will never leave you to hang. sal is one of the most stand up guys in the police dept right now. too bad he had to leave 14. ceja is a dynamite guy too. he also has your back 100%. i would have to say that 25 is lucky to have those guys. too bad all the other districts cant have them that good.
Torture my ass! Never happened. Maybe someone got slapped upside the head. Maybe someone got pushed into a wall.....but there was no torture. I know for a fact that some of these guys are willing to give there side of the story in a public forum, such as a courtroom. The only fear is the unknown... you know, what a jury might come back with. You never know about juries. These guys have been prevented from speaking out and telling the real story because of all the bullshit civil suits and threats of indictment. If they are indicted by a federal grand jury ( and remember a prosecutor can get a ham sandwich indicted) they will finally be able to respond to the terrible accusations that have been made against them all of these years. These are good men. They are men of extremely strong character. I wish them well and will remember them in my prayers. Remember officers, this could be you 20 yrs from now.
pls list the plaintiff's atty's names. we will look into thier connections. if the media won't do it, then we will.
I feel bad for a ll teh det's trying to do their job today....
Mayor Daley condoned and encouraged this behavior. Go after the stuttering midget.
THE MAYOR AND DICK DEVINE
You got that right go after these two phony pricks.
all the people around the mayor in key, critical spots that did the mayors bidding and hiring went to jail and he knows nothing. All the aldermen that do his bidding and rubber stamp his every whim and he knows nothing. The ballless clueless alderpeople sit around and ask the mayor how high and how much. The olympic people can not really want this corupt town unless they are looking for theres.
Say what you want, but the truth does need to come out! ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!
The "pardoned" criminals are still low life scumbags.
That does not make torture right or legal but it does make it understandable.
Jon Burge would be a heroe today in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Guantanamo just as he was in Vietnam.
The reason that these federal investigations are happening is the fault of the city and their delaying the original settlement because Devine lies and admits nothing while Daley admits things were done wrong and apologizes but won't be deposed. The defense attorneys (like the scumbags of the PLO and their ilk) also made this possible by allowing their clients to come off the 5th amendment and spending years and tens of millions of dollars fighting law suits that they knew would eventually be settled.
The city and the defense attorneys (like Freeborn and Peters where the ex Sherriff's son is, and Rezko's lawyers, and former State's Attorneys and Joe Roddy's son) overbilled the city and created this situation. Nobody was listening to a leftist lying jerk like Flint Taylor or Locke Bowman or the fat goofs at Northwestern who are interesting in making money for themselves and not poor Black people criminals or not. So the police officers should blame DALEY, and FREEBORN AND PETERS because they made this possible indictment happen.
They are looking into not only CONSPIRACY, but also PERJURY, and remember that some of the characters who were accussed of torture ended up as States Attorney investigators and on the Sherrifs office and even one convicted felon on the Public Defenders office.
Nobody has a lot of sympathy on a demonic scumbag like Wilson (either of them) and he even hurt innocent Black men like the one who was in prison for a crime that Wilson committed. But the reason they got new trials and money is that they were tortured when they didn't need to be. Some of this was bad police work and not just good cops getting criminals. If you already have a good case there is no reason to torture.
The individual cops should not be the ones they are going after but the command and control of those who wanted confessions and convictions at no cost and didn't want to deal with this in the first place:
MAYOR RICHARD M DALEY
and
RICHARD DEVINE
They probably have some juicy federal purgery, conspiracy and obstruction of justice charges pertaining to the earlier grand jury testimony. It only takes one baby.
sorry off topic please tell me the bad bosses in 025.
6/11/2008 02:01:00 AM
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No
Mayor Daley was State's Attorney of Cook County when these torture allegations were brought up and swept under the rug...along with the 10 or so detectives working for Burge, do U think he might show up as a "co-conspirator" under fed civil rights violations law...????? I'm sure with the tons of paper work on civil suits regarding this matter; not to mention that big two year special investigation of Burge, that went nowhere...there are memos and letters to State's Attorney Daley regarding the torture of arrestees...which of couse, he ignored....
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Want to talk about morale being in the shitter? Just look at the knuckle heads working the 06 cars in 007/1st watch.
Not harping on all of them, just a select few that should be charged with impersonating the police.
THOU SHALT NOT TORTURE THE MURDERERS OF POLICE OFFICERS
THOU SHALT NOT TORTURE THE MURDERERS OF CHILDREN
THOU SHALT NOT TORTURE THE MURDERERS OF THE OLD AND MEEK
THOU SHALL NOT TORTURE THOSE THAT ARE A STAIN UPON HUMANITY....
Sure it can be alleged that Burge tortured some to get confessions and close cases. We dont have to worry about that know in A2, they just dont clear cases. Eddie the turd and his suspend dicks dont know waht closing is. Clearance rate up to 17% yet eddie.
sorry off topic please tell me the bad bosses in 025.
6/11/2008 02:01:00 AM
................................................No but I can tell you about some bad patrolmen!!
the whore media should focus on how both of these savages made it to trial alive.
6/11/2008 02:00:00 AM
As opposed to showing up dead???
Why hasn't the news reported the beating of a white man by four arabian men.
On June 9, 2008 a man walked out of his home and was beaten by four arabic men who yelled racial slurs calling him an american pig and the white devil. The white man attempted to flee to his car where the men began stoning the victim.
The men were arrested and charged with a hate crime by 16th District Officers. Its funny how it the media ignored the story. If it was reversed, I think it would be national news.
With Roddy helping these guys they are in trouble.
Remember, these Dicks are dealing with asshole felons, liars, pieces of shit to begin with, then they have lawyers to deal with who are bigger pieces of shit.
A lot of these shitheads were pardoned by Geo Ryan who himself is a convicted felon and at least one of his felonys resulted in the death of 6 innocent children.
DNA is not the final answer to either conviction or innocence of a suspect. The DNA answer is bullshit, it is only a tool unless you are a shyster lawyer getting your felon off the hook.
I suggest that the Det.s go to the grand jury and take the fifth, let them figure it out. Also, get rid of FOP and Roddy, he will give you up in a second.
off topic.....how about the lawsuit the city settled for 2.8 million last week. The one po involved is now a Sgt. who tells EVERYONE how she scored # 1 on the exam. Maybe she could tell people about this great bit of policework she did. Hey # 1 you only cost us 2.8...thanks
anonymous said...
sorry off topic please tell me the bad bosses in 025.
6/11/2008 02:01:00 AM
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define bad boss
feel bad for these retired guys. so much for enjoying a relaxing peaceful retirement. Most of the individuals making torture allegations a pieces of shit. some committed more serious crimes when released by our former felony governor Ryan. Hope all of the questioned detectives come out ok. When are the pieces of shit who run this state and county gonna let this thing die?
2 decorated gangs officers returning from a funeral for another scumbag that killed one of us, Fahey and O'Brien RIP! Stop the asshole wilson brothers they get the coppers guns and shoot them to death, and then burge brings them to justice and now they want to fuck over the dicks on this case! WTF! Hey mayor a big FICK YOU I am done doing anything and fuck the contact cards I want no contact with the assholes you protect! mayor mc cheese now we have a pr parade to honor some illegal bitch who they claim cpd killed in 1977! mayor thanks for allowing all the illegals in maybe they can move next door to the michigan mansion or the mansion on indiana that would show how much you care! I am praying these hard working dic's make out alright, lets give them a heart attack right jagoff criminalinc mayor! Another thing are your overpaid valets ever going to do real police work? Sorry taking your clothes to cleaners and you having them run all over the city to return all the movies you watched on overtime yea your a goofy mayor!
Once Obama becomes president he will appoint a local Dem lawyer as US Atty and you can be certain that the new USA will treat the midget very kindly. Also be assured that the new Obama USA will not be as kind to CPD officers and will ramp up civil rights investigations.
ANY old scandal will be highlighted in the media whenever some moron on this job turns to "the darkside".
Off topic, I apologize....
Does anyone know, is there any truth to the rumor that the guy "T.M." wwho stole money from the daughter of a policeman killed in the line of duty in the 15th district is back on the job and working in 11?
Caution to the good guys and girls in 11....don't let this p.o.s. run any benefits, he's not the type to learn lessons....
P.O.S., get the hell off the job!
Who's the best cop? Who's the best cop Jimmy?
For any of the officers who live on the west end of 008, sun nite 2330 a woman is walking through hale park and was raped. she gave a good description and word is they have him on pod camera walking around there earlier. I also heard that 812 has been assigned to something called zone 1 which the boundaries are not on their beat. the are instructed to get activity there. It looks like we will never get coverage. the only good thing is that SC is assigned to 812 on afternoons and won't let our neighborhood go to the beast.
The scandal has not died because justice has not yet been served on those who abused their power. Is that too simple of a response for you to understand!!! I may not be a police officer but I know the difference between right and wrong. Torture is wrong!!! Keep defending those who disgraced your profession and then you will understand why we citizens have so little respect for you and the Chicago Police Department.
They should hold the ASA's running for State's Attorney accountable for the outcome of the grand jury. The grand jury investigation will go nowhere. It's just the old dog and pony show to say "Hey we did something. Vote for me."
More distraction from the crime that the black community continues to perpetuate on each other and the rest of the city.
It's not our fault. It's their fault. Don't look here. Look over there.
On and on and on for another thousand years.
You take you life in your hands every time you leave your house in Englewood, Grand Crossing, and most S side and W side neighborhoods.
The aldermen are all stealing their asses off. The local Revs. and assorted race pimps convince their less than bright constituants that the biggest problem in their lives is Jon Burge.
As long as the poor saps, who's pockets are being picked by the aldermen and Revs., are focused on problems among them, Themselves.
Anyone who actually works fot a living and votes for democRATS is a total moron.
The Reader has noted Daley's involvement several times - and that when the city makes these big payoffs, the recipients sign non-disclosure agreements, thus insuring they can't say anything to embarrass Daley.
Just A Civilian
The person who stands to profit from all of this torture shit is the PLO and their master pimp, Flint Taylor. I have heard, but can't verify, that if one police officer is charged criminally, the PLO and Taylor stand to collect millions from the city in legal fees. God Bless Jon Burge and all the fine men and women from Area 2 who worked for him. Stay Strong!
to 0201 am
are you that miserable or bored with your life that you're asking about bad bosses in 025 who cares! do your job answer your calls write a suspended/revoked mover every now and then and you will be fine anywhere. and no i'm not telling you to go out and be proactive. and no i'm not from 025!
to the officers who missed the memo sent out during your academy months. please request a copy from your local FOP rep. its intitled, " yep u have surrendered your rights,here's your badge".
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
My "Nitwit" ass is the first one you come running to when you need something. I think us "Nitwits" should start really going by the book, on EVERYTHING - 1/2 hour lunch means a 1/2 hour not 31 minutes. The case reports must be PERFECT, no mispellings and CLEARLY written. Let's see how all of you crybabies would like it.
The whole thing is shocking!
BURGE FOR PRESIDENT. REMEMBER ONE THING YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE CALIBER OF THESE POLICE EVER AGAIN ON THE CPD, AND THAT IS WHY SHIT IS REALLY GETTING OUT OF CONTROL. YOU CAN SIT THERE AND SAY "YEAH RIGHT" BUT JUST TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AND NOTHING BEING DONE ABOUT IT. THIS WOULD NOT HAPPEN IN ANY AREA OF THE CITY EVEN AREA 2 DURING THEIR TENURE. YOU REALLY NEED TO KEEP THE OLDER/ WISER POLICE-DET'S AROUND TO TEACH THE YOUNGER ONES , YET YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO STOP THE FLOOD BUT AT LEAST KEEP IT FROM SEEPING INTO YOUR HOMES. FLIP
The scandal has not died because justice has not yet been served on those who abused their power. Is that too simple of a response for you to understand!!! I may not be a police officer but I know the difference between right and wrong. Torture is wrong!!! Keep defending those who disgraced your profession and then you will understand why we citizens have so little respect for you and the Chicago Police Department.
6/11/2008 05:11:00 PM
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If someone walked into your office and shot two of your co-workers for no reason, and you actually liked them and knew thier kids, and you knew they did it. Whatg about the people who use and abuse society?
MR. JOE RODDY IS THE BEST AND NEVER HAS A LOSING CASE. ONLY FROM EXPERIENCE CAN I TELL YOU THIS. A BIG F UK YOU TO THOSE THAT SAY ANYTHNG ELSE.
The men were arrested and charged with a hate crime by 16th District Officers. Its funny how it the media ignored the story. If it was reversed, I think it would be national news.
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Simple, the media hates America.
Yes That Rat Bastard Munyon sued and got back on the job. Where is Weis's fed buddies in this case.
Anonymous said...
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
My "Nitwit" ass is the first one you come running to when you need something. I think us "Nitwits" should start really going by the book, on EVERYTHING - 1/2 hour lunch means a 1/2 hour not 31 minutes. The case reports must be PERFECT, no mispellings and CLEARLY written. Let's see how all of you crybabies would like it.
6/11/2008 09:35:00 PM
OK NO BALLS I WILL REWRITE EVERY CASE REPORT THEN I STAY ON "PAPER" ALL DAY ANOTHER MERIT PROMOTION FLUNKY?
Several years ago then superintendant Brzeczek sent a letter to then Cook County States Attorney Daley that there were allegations of torture in the Chicago Police Department. Daley did nothing about it and now says he didn't get the letter. This midget is a liar and a fool if he thinks he can fool all of the people all of the time. Subpoena little Richie and have him sweat before the grand jury for a few hours.
Chicago Det's plead the fifth and then go home. This circus has been going on for years and now another step into the toliet we go.
So the plan is for Jody, his retired friends, his active friends, his DOJ friends is to break this city, steal all or our tax money.
Understand, The Media is Communist, it not only hates the Police, it hates America.
Those Area 2 Detectives, along with retired Lt.Burge, did the Lord's work. The truely evil ones were the Wilson brothers, and those who are still trying to crucify Burge & Co. after all these decades. Rest in peace, brother officers Fahey and O'Brian. True Heroes, whose lives were cut short by thse 2 sub-human piles of excrement, the Wilson brothers. One rotting in Hell, the other will join him soon.
Why hasn't the news reported the beating of a white man by four arabian men.
On June 9, 2008 a man walked out of his home and was beaten by four arabic men who yelled racial slurs calling him an american pig and the white devil. The white man attempted to flee to his car where the men began stoning the victim.
The men were arrested and charged with a hate crime by 16th District Officers. Its funny how it the media ignored the story. If it was reversed, I think it would be national news.
Well maybe the news media will get interested in this incident when they find out the Secret Service was investigating this band of Muslum brothers, after they were observed outside of the White House.
The guys who like to bad mouth Keating obviously never worked in 10 . As a Sgt and a P.O. he was a worker. He may take his job a little more seriously than you and I but dont for a minute think he wasnt the police in his day. For that matter he still approaches more people and confronts them then most P.O.'s on the job. Give him a break.
Can't even retire form this job in peace.
The scandal has not died because justice has not yet been served on those who abused their power. Is that too simple of a response for you to understand!!! I may not be a police officer but I know the difference between right and wrong. Torture is wrong!!! Keep defending those who disgraced your profession and then you will understand why we citizens have so little respect for you and the Chicago Police Department.
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The "victims" as you would call them were and are nothing but the scum of the earth.You say you know the diffrence between right and wrong?YOU KNOW SHIT!!! You have no clue as to what these "victims" are capable of.If you understood reality you would then know that you understand less than 1% of what really happens out there.These "innocents" would rob,rape and kill you and anyone you hold dear if given the chance.These detectives were not evil men,who woke up one day and decided to torture some poor innocent citizen in order to get themselves off, NO they decided to rid society of the very evil which preys on the weak,by throwing their ass in the joint where they belong.You scream injustice and police brutality until it is you or a loved one who suffers at the hands of these predators.You sit there in your safe little world and fight for justice,when it is we who go out everyday and fight the people who would make you shit yourself.I say this to you...leave your safe little house in the burbs and go live in the neighborhoods these "victims" come from and when they turn on you,do not call us.OR if you are in fact from these areas then disregard this all together,because you know what you are saying is a scam and you are more than likely a scumbag yourself.
People like YOU are the reason this justice system is broken,YOU are the ones who the criminals know will believe their tales of woe and they use that at their disposal time and time again.YOU are the reason this system has become what it has become...a revolving door.
SO now YOU know a little bit of why WE have so little respect for you and citizens as a whole.But the diffrence is we continue to work and protect you regardless.
Work this job for five years then talk to me about justice.
This why no one should give any money to the United Way the support PLO and Flint Taylor.
Why the bashing of Joe Roddy? That guy knows his business and is really a decent, good guy. Unfortunately, I have had to use his services and I couldn't be more pleased with the outcome.
Joe, if you read this blog, thank you and keep up the good work! You are appreciated, despite the whining wimps you might run across on here.
"I'd say go forward with this full steam if the coppers get immunity and testify against the Cook County States Attorney at the time.
Maybe Joe Roddy can cut a deal for the cops, immunity for retired police in exchange for testimony against the stuttering prick.
6/11/2008 08:57:00 AM"
Now THAT'S the stuff that wet dreams are made of.
If only.....
Bara bing bara boom it's a civil matter not a police matter... 19p
-ahahaha (thank you very much I will be performing live at La Familia comedy night).
In 1992, at Plumber's Hall, there was a defense fundraiser held for Burge and all.
It was a huge success both financially and morally.
There should be another held.
Plumber's Hall will most likely be told no to the event by RMD, but there are other venues.
Only one of the dozens of politicans supported the cause - only one - who needs them.
Let history repeat itself and come together to show your strength.
One Who Was There
Anonymous said...
The scandal has not died because justice has not yet been served on those who abused their power. Is that too simple of a response for you to understand!!! I may not be a police officer but I know the difference between right and wrong. Torture is wrong!!! Keep defending those who disgraced your profession and then you will understand why we citizens have so little respect for you and the Chicago Police Department.
6/11/2008 05:11:00 PM
You dont know the diffrence between SHIT and SHINEOLA! Keep your liberal head stuck in the sand, this way it will be easier when some animal sticks it in your ass! And do us a huge favor, after it happens, call some bleeding heart preacher, or your dumb-ass politican, and ask them to help, cry your eyes out to the media, because we could care less!
Your a hard working police officer and do your job and arrest the drug dealers and gang members. You all been to court what happenes: Defense atty's either file motions say you conducted an illegal search, did not read miranda or if you did they did not understand, illegal search etc etc. The judge rules in your favor and you feel good. Now after 10-15 years, bad guys in prison library get together and all say your the bad one. Media looks at all your arrests and oh my god you engage in appatern of misconduct just look at these motions and allegations. Now the media gets involved and reports this, now your reputation is ruined and the department turns its back on you.
Defense 101
Fact: every search resulting in the recovery of contraband is challenged by a motion to suppress, the motion is always bad police bad search.
Defense 102
Fact: every admissiom or confession is challenged by a motion to suppress, of course bad police.
You introduce testimony, lockup records mug shots, intake records from jail and the defendant is fine.
You look at motions to supress from all the defendants and notice their all boiler plate motions, accusations always the same but different circumstances. mmm is this officer bad. Now you notice that the same defense atty is the gangs lawyer and they all get together. Well now your in a shit storm. They file a civil lawsuit and of course the city settles, you the officer are again the bad guy.
So guess what career det's and officers are labeled criminals. The criminal knows if he lies, he may get out and also get some money andof course the atty's like flint taylor make millions.
So what do we do?
When will the bulk of the Chicago Police Department have the backbone to publicly declare that what Burge and his crew did was wrong? Sure they dealt with some very bad boys but what they did was a slipshod substitute for good police work.
Burge et al were filled with and consumed by hate. they let that cloud their judgement and prevented them from doing their job right and properly nailing those murderous bastards to the wall so that only one trial would have been necessary.
Burge etc. are not heroes, they are lazy police. Do the job right and get the worst of the worst and do it the right way and put them away forever. Do what they did and the guilty go free and the police become the criminals.
Look at how many have walked away with millions thanks to Burge. It isn't right that the scum of the earth hit the lotto thanks to shoddy police work.
Hard working police officers #2.
You go to work everyday, not with a briefcase, but a bullet proof vest and gun. Your family prays that you come home. On the holidays you drive around and watch other families gather and give thanks. On xmas as you drive down the street you see children opening their presents with smiles on their faces. You ponder what are mine doing and what am i Missing. The nexy day you go to court, a two bag arrest that took a one block foot pursuit. You stand in court proud that you arrested a dope dealer who stand out their everyday selling his drugs while children play nearby. He has 22 prior arrests 1/2 narcotics. You step up to the jusge tell ur story and no probable cause, not because of what you done but the amont of drugs he has. Off he goes laughing. Now you wonder every dime bag arrest that you make is no probable cause, now you have about thirty of them. Guess what your a problem, why does this officer's arrest always end up no probable cause. Well the city wont back you, they will settle the lawsuit, now you have 5 lawsuits and your reputation sullied. The tribune will do their investigation and say 10,000 arrests no probable cause and blame the police. For all you citizens take a moment and go to court and watch, you will find that it is the policemans fault everytime, the same policeman who stood outside your door on xmas making sure you were not a victim
"So what do we do?
6/12/2008 06:34:00 AM"
As little as possible.
Sooner or later the citizens will realize that 'you don't know what you got 'till it's gone'.
Read "Man Against the Mob" and pay attention to the part about how the Machine got Kennedy elected. How many dirty little secrets does Da Mayor have that keep the feebs in check? They won't touch this guy because he can spill Hoover's dress maker to the public. Did the feebs violate rights when they planted illegal bugs in the Outfit's meeting places? Who's going to charge them for civil rights violations? They're as dirty as anyone else in this town.
OK NO BALLS I WILL REWRITE EVERY CASE REPORT THEN I STAY ON "PAPER" ALL DAY ANOTHER MERIT PROMOTION FLUNKY?
Why don't you start be rewriting your above statement. You shouldn't be writing using all caps and put a period after day. No I am not merit.
The scandal has not died because justice has not yet been served on those who abused their power. Is that too simple of a response for you to understand!!! I may not be a police officer but I know the difference between right and wrong. Torture is wrong!!! Keep defending those who disgraced your profession and then you will understand why we citizens have so little respect for you and the Chicago Police Department.
6/11/2008 05:11:00 PM
Why is it so hard for you to understand that there was no torture? These criminals were spoon fed the alegations...in order to make a case against Burge and the detectives....is that so hard for you to understand...that there are two sides to every story...and these criminals might be lying......the public seems to relish these stories....seems to enjoy the thought of criminals going free and police officers indicted...I sincerly wish that one of these freed criminals takes up residence next to you....I can hear the 911 calls now.....
God love John Burge
Look at how many have walked away with millions thanks to Burge. It isn't right that the scum of the earth hit the lotto thanks to shoddy police work.
6/12/2008 06:57:00 AM
Thanks to Burge? These assholes walked away with millions because that's the Chicago way. I would love to see how much money these law firms donate to the democratic campaigns. And by the way sir, lick my nut sack. God bless John Burge.
I'd like to see Daley in the Fed. Courthouse, under oath, even if he pleads the 5th. He was a large part of it all, why should he get any play?
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
My "Nitwit" ass is the first one you come running to when you need something. I think us "Nitwits" should start really going by the book, on EVERYTHING - 1/2 hour lunch means a 1/2 hour not 31 minutes. The case reports must be PERFECT, no mispellings and CLEARLY written. Let's see how all of you crybabies would like it.
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I was around when supervisors like you were dealt with one on one. Those days could come back.
Keating.....Give him a break.
6/11/2008 11:47:00 PM
Why? Would Special K give a break to you or me? NOT! He's a maniac stroke clout baby! Over the years, I worked with many men and women that deserved to be promoted, but never were lucky enough to be clout babies. I worked with Special K and he is a jag.
Anonymous said...
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
My "Nitwit" ass is the first one you come running to when you need something. I think us "Nitwits" should start really going by the book, on EVERYTHING - 1/2 hour lunch means a 1/2 hour not 31 minutes. The case reports must be PERFECT, no mispellings and CLEARLY written. Let's see how all of you crybabies would like it.
That's your job sarge, when we need something, we need your supervision. That's why you get paid more than us. You fucking white shirts have all but killed this job. Someone should be watching you fuckers.
Burge etc. are not heroes, they are lazy police. Do the job right and get the worst of the worst and do it the right way and put them away forever. Do what they did and the guilty go free and the police become the criminals.
Look at how many have walked away with millions thanks to Burge. It isn't right that the scum of the earth hit the lotto thanks to shoddy police work.
6/12/2008 06:57:00 AM
You are the reason, this city and most of this country is in the shape that its in.
What burge and every other working real police officer worked the same way in those times.
Willing and corrupt politicians gave way for the proliferation of bottom feeder attorneys to monopolize a movement to steal taxpayers money.
Anonymous said...
The scandal has not died because justice has not yet been served on those who abused their power. Is that too simple of a response for you to understand!!! I may not be a police officer but I know the difference between right and wrong. Torture is wrong!!! Keep defending those who disgraced your profession and then you will understand why we citizens have so little respect for you and the Chicago Police Department.
6/11/2008 05:11:00 PM
Its pretty easy to sit in judgement on something that you know nothing about. How many claims of tortue do you think were complete lies mad up by a Homicide offender in order to help him escape a lenghty prison sentence. ????
Do you have any Idea what these two men did to Gang Officers Fahey and O Brien?????
Do you know what they were on the way to do when they executed these officers?? I ll bet not!
If that was your Father or Brother what would you want done ??
You have no idea what it is like to stand over the lifless body of a friend, who was killed either on a battlefield or a city street.
No one is condoning any form of torture,,,,,,, This case has been tried and retried. When does it end???
while you sleep safely at night men and women all over the world and here in Chicago do a thankless and dangerous job........
They do if for a lot of reasons..... the main one is more than likely for each other
It s people like you that have a story book acceptance of what the media prints or puts on video as the truth that has had the adverse effect on this Department. But you will call 911 and demand that a Police Officer respond when something bad happens to you...... Have you ever heard of anyone calling the police when something good happens. You and 90 % of the public that we serve have absolutely no clue. You live in a fairy tale world.......
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.""
George Orwell
off topic.....how about the lawsuit the city settled for 2.8 million last week. The one po involved is now a Sgt. who tells EVERYONE how she scored # 1 on the exam. Maybe she could tell people about this great bit of policework she did. Hey # 1 you only cost us 2.8...thanks
6/11/2008 02:53:00 PM
Do you mean she moved up from #18.
We all know she was meritorious.
pls list the plaintiff's atty's names. we will look into thier connections. if the media won't do it, then we will.
6/11/2008 10:04:00 AM
Hey Fumbducker,
How can we expect YOU to "look into their connections" when you need SCC to tell you who they are? You're smart, you are.
Also, get rid of FOP and Roddy, he will give you up in a second.
6/11/2008 02:35:00 PM
WHAT?!?! You mean to say that you don't want a retarded 80 year old nincompoop as your lawyer? Just who the hell do you think you are, mister?
MR. JOE RODDY IS THE BEST AND NEVER HAS A LOSING CASE. ONLY FROM EXPERIENCE CAN I TELL YOU THIS. A BIG F UK YOU TO THOSE THAT SAY ANYTHNG ELSE.
6/11/2008 10:33:00 PM
Look here Joe (or Junior), you F UKER, stay off the blog or we'll devote the next 100 entries to cops old Roddy has screwed.
Why the bashing of Joe Roddy? That guy knows his business and is really a decent, good guy. Unfortunately, I have had to use his services and I couldn't be more pleased with the outcome.
Joe, if you read this blog, thank you and keep up the good work! You are appreciated, despite the whining wimps you might run across on here.
6/12/2008 02:44:00 AM
Hi Joe!
"answer to 0201 the new batch of bosses in 25 are pretty good. i know the commander, he was and still is the police. this guy will never leave you to hang. sal is one of the most stand up guys in the police dept right now."
oh i see what your doing there. haha, good one. very clever. said it with a straight face and everything. yeah, you got me. oh lordy. hahaha.
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
My "Nitwit" ass is the first one you come running to when you need something. I think us "Nitwits" should start really going by the book, on EVERYTHING - 1/2 hour lunch means a 1/2 hour not 31 minutes. The case reports must be PERFECT, no mispellings and CLEARLY written. Let's see how all of you crybabies would like it.
6/11/2008 09:35:00 PM
Well OK Then we'll take 45 min instead of the usual 30 min ,in a backlog to make the reports better than perfect!How would YOU's like that?
When will the bulk of the Chicago Police Department have the backbone to publicly declare that what Burge and his crew did was wrong? Sure they dealt with some very bad boys but what they did was a slipshod substitute for good police work.
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And you are an idiot.
"Look here Joe (or Junior), you F UKER, stay off the blog or we'll devote the next 100 entries to cops old Roddy has screwed.
6/12/2008 04:18:00 PM"
Uh, I'm Joe and I'm posting here, on this blog, the one you said that if I didn't stay off of you'd "..devote the next 100 entries to cops old Roddy has screwed.".
I have only one question/comment:
Are you a man of your word?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.""
George Orwell
6/12/2008 01:43:00 PM
And you'd think that the least people could do is be thankful.
"I was around when supervisors like you were dealt with one on one. Those days could come back.
6/12/2008 09:56:00 AM"
Sweet.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
In 1992, at Plumber's Hall, there was a defense fundraiser held for Burge and all.
It was a huge success both financially and morally.
There should be another held.
Plumber's Hall will most likely be told no to the event by RMD, but there are other venues.
Only one of the dozens of politicans supported the cause - only one - who needs them.
Let history repeat itself and come together to show your strength.
One Who Was There
6/12/2008 03:51:00 AM
Obviously not rookie, the funhd raiser was at the Teamster Hall on Jackson and Ashland and it was for B.O.Y. if you were there you know what it means.
Roemer got more mileage with that bullshit Man Against the Mob than you guys do dishing it out to the local pols. He came out with three books, the highlight of all were a rehashing of planting bugs in a mob diner. Oh yeah, then he called Giancana a scumbag at O'Hare Airport. He was a big fucking omedon...give me a break.
When will the bulk of the Chicago Police Department have the backbone to publicly declare that what Burge and his crew did was wrong? Sure they dealt with some very bad boys but what they did was a slipshod substitute for good police work.
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IF you are on the job then you are half the police these guys were.Alot of people comment on here about being the REAL police.It is not about how many bags of dope you get or how "busy" your district is.The type of cop that is around now is a disgrace,alot of fake tough guys running around thinking they are something they are not.And if your responses to this are about how they beat and "tortured" offenders then you have no idea what i'm talking about.
The scandal has not died because justice has not yet been served on those who abused their power. Is that too simple of a response for you to understand!!! I may not be a police officer but I know the difference between right and wrong. Torture is wrong!!! Keep defending those who disgraced your profession and then you will understand why we citizens have so little respect for you and the Chicago Police Department.
6/11/2008 05:11:00 PM
GFY, you liberal piece of shit! You'll believe anything the media sells you. Cmmdr. Burge was a great boss and he and his detectives are victims of a politically motivated witch hunt. Don't believe all the media sells you!
Sounds like another 5 year wonder!! You are an ass. I've probably got more time in the uniform store than you have on the job!
Anonymous said...
OK NO BALLS I WILL REWRITE EVERY CASE REPORT THEN I STAY ON "PAPER" ALL DAY ANOTHER MERIT PROMOTION FLUNKY?
Why don't you start be rewriting your above statement. You shouldn't be writing using all caps and put a period after day. No I am not merit.
6/12/2008 07:53:00 AM
Ok little man/woman what district are you from? College dam you wasted mommy and daddies retirement funds jagoff!
You know, I'm sorry, but I spent a lot of years in the detective division in the 60s thru the 80s and I never saw any "black box" used to torture anyone. Come to think of it I never saw or heard of anyone who would go near the balls of these slime bags to hook it up. I saw a picture of one on the news and no detective ever made one of those. It looked more like a communist propaganda thing. Oh sorry Rev. Slim, did not mean to offend you.
"The next day you go to court, a two bag arrest that took a one block foot pursuit. You stand in court proud that you arrested a dope dealer who stand out their everyday selling his drugs while children play nearby. He has 22 prior arrests 1/2 narcotics. You step up to the judge tell your story and no probable cause, not because of what you done but the amount of drugs he has. Off he goes laughing."
. . . . . .
You are a dip-shit.
FUCK making arrests.
Especially FUCK making arrests for dope.
Legalize the shit now and it will DESTROY the economics of the dope trade for the dope dealers.
WAKE THE FUCK UP AMERICA ! ! ! !
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
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I think us "Nitwits" should start really going by the book, on EVERYTHING - 1/2 hour lunch means a 1/2 hour not 31 minutes.
The case reports must be PERFECT, no misspellings and CLEARLY written.
Let's see how all of you crybabies would like it.
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That's your job sarge, when we need something, we need your supervision.
That's why you get paid more than us.
You fucking white shirts have all but killed this job.
Someone should be watching you fuckers.
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JEALOUS ??????
Study harder next time bitch or suck some boss off to make meritorious.
In the mean time, Check-off is 25 minutes after the hour. And here is a 1-Day / SPAR for not having a Beat Tag
. . Bitch ! ! !
Roemer got more mileage with that bullshit Man Against the Mob than you guys do dishing it out to the local pols. He came out with three books, the highlight of all were a rehashing of planting bugs in a mob diner. Oh yeah, then he called Giancana a scumbag at O'Hare Airport. He was a big fucking omedon...give me a break.
Point is feds do the same things they're looking to hook up cops for doing. Make deals with scumbags, breaking in and planting bugs without authorization. All for the greater good. But since it's fed level, it's OK? What was that guys name that worked with the Navy during WWII? Lucky something or other...
Recently, I talked with a young student from a JC in the Chicago Area. He told me about the Burge torture case and how the police use the “black box” and electrocuted these innocent people. I explained to him that I was around during that era and never saw any such device use to torture anyone. Not to say that some did not get “jacked up”. That’s how it was. If you look into who started this BS it may shed some light one the whole Burge incident. These people are out and out haters of America. The Peoples Law Office, now under some other name and the people who were connected with it? Some are now our elected “leaders”. Research it. They had to get a ruling on Burge to get paid. They had to get a ruling on Burge to spread their hate and lies about the police and America. It’s important to them to break down the first line of defense. YOU. Now they are teaching it in schools, and we may be on the verge of electing one to be the president of this great nation. God help us all.
When will the bulk of the Chicago Police Department have the backbone to publicly declare that what Burge and his crew did was wrong? Sure they dealt with some very bad boys but what they did was a slipshod substitute for good police work.
Burge et al were filled with and consumed by hate. they let that cloud their judgement and prevented them from doing their job right and properly nailing those murderous bastards to the wall so that only one trial would have been necessary.
Burge etc. are not heroes, they are lazy police. Do the job right and get the worst of the worst and do it the right way and put them away forever. Do what they did and the guilty go free and the police become the criminals.
Look at how many have walked away with millions thanks to Burge. It isn't right that the scum of the earth hit the lotto thanks to shoddy police work.
You were never tthe police, nor will you ever be the police. Get your tution reimbursement ccheck and go work for the Peoples Law Office
I think us "Nitwits" should start really going by the book, on EVERYTHING - 1/2 hour lunch means a 1/2 hour not 31 minutes.
The case reports must be PERFECT, no misspellings and CLEARLY written.
Let's see how all of you crybabies would like it.
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That's your job sarge, when we need something, we need your supervision.
That's why you get paid more than us.
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YOU NEED THEIR SUPERVISION ? ? ?
So you admit to being a MORON?!?!?
Does that mean you need to be followed around for 8 hours having your ass wiped ?????
That's your job sarge, when we need something, we need your supervision.
That's why you get paid more than us.
You fucking white shirts have all but killed this job.
Someone should be watching you fuckers.
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What the hell are you talking about "we need your supervision?"
You must be an idiot.
If you need a sergeant for a cluster-fuck mess, then call for him. If you have to notify him by General Order then do so. (i.e.; burglary, missing, hospitalization/death cases)
Do you really need a sergeant to hold your hand on every job?
The last thing I want is a sergeant to micro-manage every little detail on one of MY jobs. I sounds like what YOU need is an FTO to work with you for about 6 months until you learn what your doing.
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
+ + + + + + + + + + +
That's your job sarge, when we need something, we need your supervision. That's why you get paid more than us.
You fucking white shirts have all but killed this job. Someone should be watching you fuckers.
+ + + + + + + + + + +
JEALOUS ??????
Study harder next time bitch or suck some boss off to make meritorious.
In the mean time, Check-off is 25 minutes after the hour. And here is a 1-Day / SPAR for not having a Beat Tag
. . Bitch ! ! !
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After all these years on the job as a P.O. I now understand why sergeants turn into "jag-off" bosses. Because of the unbelievable number of "cocky-prick-know it all" P.O.s that they have to deal with on a daily basis.
My kid plays football at our local park and all the guys running it are coppers. 8 out of 10 of them are A BUNCH OF PRICK ASSHOLES.
If I was a sergeant, I would be SPARing the assholes in my district on a daily basis. I can't wait to retire and leave this city along with all the assholes
That's your job sarge, when we need something, we need your supervision.
That's why you get paid more than us.
You fucking white shirts have all but killed this job.
................
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa
I need a sergeant,
I need a sergeant,
I need a sergeant.
It sounds like you don't know what the fuck you are doing officer.
Anonymous said...
Our "Nitwit" Sergeants could have done the same thing at a third the costs to taxpayers!
+ + + + + + + + + + +
That's your job sarge, when we need something, we need your supervision. That's why you get paid more than us.
You fucking white shirts have all but killed this job. Someone should be watching you fuckers.
+ + + + + + + + + + +
JEALOUS ??????
Study harder next time bitch or suck some boss off to make meritorious.
In the mean time, Check-off is 25 minutes after the hour. And here is a 1-Day / SPAR for not having a Beat Tag
. . Bitch ! ! !
I learned not to call for a sgt. Waste of time. Need a taser? Your out of luck. Never around when you need a white shirt until you make a mistake then you are spared. Yes, I am a bitch. A blue shirt working a car. BUT, sgt, no work. And when you make a stop, try calling for a assist car. Remember, we also watch you.
JEALOUS ??????
Study harder next time bitch or suck some boss off to make meritorious.
In the mean time, Check-off is 25 minutes after the hour. And here is a 1-Day / SPAR for not having a Beat Tag
. . Bitch ! ! !
I learned not to call for a sgt. Waste of time. Need a taser? Your out of luck. Never around when you need a white shirt until you make a mistake then you are spared. Yes, I am a bitch. A blue shirt working a car. BUT, sgt, no work. And when you make a stop, try calling for a assist car. Remember, we also watch you.
6/13/2008 05:30:00 PM
Come on sgt where do you work no balls I work in 007! Don't be so "scared" where do you work want to really show your stripes post name initials! COWARD WITH A WHITE SHIRT!!
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