Bait Car
A so-called bait car equipped with GPS technology is placed in areas where it's likely to be stolen. Once the decoy is stolen, it's tracked, and police can remotely lock its doors to make it easier to catch the thief.
"As you can see, it's kinda irrefutable proof you've stolen the car. People deny, deny, deny. We show them the video and they say, 'okay, you got me,' " said Dep. Chief Michael McCotter, Chicago Police Department.
The Chicago Police, the state's attorney's office and the MetLife auto insurance company are partners in the program.
So what happens in a case like this?
04 June - DALLAS (AP) — A stolen theft decoy car being monitored by police crashed into another car as officers tried to disable it, killing the elderly driver of the second car, police said.
The bait car program has been halted in Dallas as police investigate why the vehicle couldn't be disabled. Bait cars, equipped with cameras and tracking equipment, are used by law enforcement around the country as theft deterrents.
How soon until the midget pulls this MetLife mobile off the street until some of these questions are answered?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
48 Comments:
My partner and I were standing on the street after a field interview one night when a bunch of unmarked cars suddenly came out of nowhere and surrounded this SUV. We ran over to help and one of the plain clothes guys said that this was a bait car. At the time neither my partner or I new what he was talking about. I guess this program has been going on for almost a year now.
"How soon until the midget pulls this MetLife mobile off the street until some of these questions are answered?"
That depends upon how generous MetLife has been in contributing to the Democratic Party of Cook County.
The bait car program is actually really good. Chicago seems to always fuck everything up, but lately I've heard it is very successful. FYI. Insurance companies: I.e. State Farm, Allstate, Farmers, etc... have always paid for the original bait car and the training for any jurisdiction with high auto theft rates---most big cities.) I'm not sure if that is the way it works in Chicago with all of the corruption and all, but I'm guessing it is because it costs over 100K per car - including training.
Either way, this scenario sucks... Just a little FYI for all of the know it alls... I have done research on the bait cars through the insurance industry and will not give away too much, but most are based on cellular technology. You know how your cell phone goes out? Guess what? So does the transmitter to kill the car. GPS can be enabled but you have to be within cell tower range to shut down...
Don't bitch about the program because it actually is very cool. We should have one in every district and not just "special people" who do it. That is a deterrent.
My thoughts,
Have a safe night....
How about a bait garage for burglars? And the bait crack pipe that gets stuck to the hype's lips? Bait hookers? OK, let's not go there.
How 'bout a remote kill switch, too. Duh.
Bait Car OOOHHHH what a great Idea, Kinf of like a reverse sting where the offender buys from the police. What happens to that case in court. NOTHING. When was the last time an auto thief actually was sent to court when we catch them in the car? MAYBE after the 10th time. Do u think the PD will actuallt setpuo two officers fron the Dept to wait for some dope to get in the car and drive it off? If we can aford to do that lets put them in a beat car. another BS idea to get publicity for J-Fraud and the medget.
yeah , as long as our fearless leadership steals an idea from another police jurisdiction, it doesn't matter if it's a good or bad idea, as long as they can produce it here quickly,and make it look like they're trying to do something, so they can hurry up and get back to their politicing. In the meantime, it's still your car getting stolen. Bait Car, big deal, this is Iraq North and were involved in this big-time operation. LOL
Who's liable?
How about the mope who stole the car? Oh, yeah. The bait car acted like a perfectly normal car, one driven by a mope who didn't care if someone else got killed.
There was nothing about the bait car that made it any more dangerous than a normal car. It's "bait-ness" had nothing to do with it crashing.
Just because it belonged to a police department or an insurance company doesn't mean they're liable.
Holy Bait and Switch Batman!!!
Maybe they should use the bait trick on the alderman in this town selling permits. You don't have to worry about any citizens getting killed. Why can't the police investigate crooked alderman? Seems like all you need is an ASA to approve charges that they violated multiple ethics ordinances. Well who controls the ASA's Office. Yes, the 11th Ward. Sorry stupid idea...
I heard Winchester is looking to Sponsor the Black P Stones and the Gangster Disciples. They are looking to provide them with all the ammunition necessary to wipe each other out. It must be true that the white man is looking to exterminate african americans, guess the AIDS thing didn't work as planned.
bait car has been around for over 32 years. been very hush hush.
I think it's a good program.
The method from what i understand, is a lot different than used in Texas. CPD doesn't include the Dispatcher, which is a good thing. Everything is controlled by the copper
Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how these bait car cases are handled in court? Are most cases plead out, or do they go to trial? If so what are the car thieves getting as far as sentencing? Jail time or probation?
Just curious.....
I think the bait car is a great idea. However it is a special 10 man unit and they get 1 arrest, lots of "hi-fives" then go home early. Another specialty unit, thanks Phil.
I'm not a lawyer but I don't know, is there any common sense in Common Law?
If you steal a car and in the pursuit by law enforcement there is an accident and an innocent person is killed, THE CAR THIEF is at fault.
Shitbird lawyers will cry somebody has to pay for this. He'll contend, the family of the decedent suffers a loss of income and pain and suffering an there'll be the ambulance chases unerlying motivation, he has to make a living.
I say the Gov't, We The People, sue the thief sieze any assets he has for public sale to offset all the victim settlement and if the thief dosent have any assets and he or any of his relatives collect welfare its the end of that AND the Welfare budget gets reduced to pay the victims settlement and the lawyer will get 10 percent that's it.
Accountability & responsibilty and the proportionate distribution of pain and suffering where it belongs with proper compensation.
DW
NAC
I know one guy on the unit, and he is definitely a master baiter.
Not only do you have a point
but this type of set up has been going on for a while in other cities. I used to watch it on COPS. These people act like they invented somethimg lol.
How about we make daleys car and burkes car an example? Just put cameras in them so we can observe how they conduct themselves and can watch how the paid valets shine their shoes and get their cleaning! Hey eddie great job dumping the guy to 008 becvause he had a "medical problem" ADA ring a bell? Ed I have loyalty yea ok eddie guess it is gone!
Why would the midget take it off the street?
If the CPD was to use it and something happened to someone,
The city would get sued and so,ebodys family would get a payout.
Remember guys most of these ;lawsuits that the city spends big money on has PRIVATE LAWYERS on the case. Not members of the Corporartion Counsel.
They just use Mara Georges as a figure head. They sub-contract ALMOST ALL litigation
"A so-called bait car equipped with GPS technology is placed in areas where it's likely to be stolen. Once the decoy is stolen, it's tracked, and police can remotely lock its doors to make it easier to catch the thief."
I wonder what officer it will be??
How about a bait garage for burglars? And the bait crack pipe that gets stuck to the hype's lips? Bait hookers? OK, let's not go there.
6/09/2008 05:32:00 AM
lol, you may be on to something
RE: Bait car
OK, you catch the bad guy in the bait car and on video. Then what?
Since there is no evidence of "intent to permanently deprive owner of use/benefit" since it isn't being taken apart or out of the country,("I was just checkin' it out")the CCSAO will probably not approve Felony Auto theft. Even if they do, it will be plead down to CTTMV and probationed out.
And the tac guys get to post some superficially impressive stats and log some court time, which make the vacuous bosses think they are competent leaders.
And if the bait car runs some one over, the city will pick up the tab.
Looks and sounds impressive. Accomplishes nothing.
How City of Chicago...
"OK, let's not go there.
6/09/2008 05:32:00 AM"
Yes, let's go there.
here's a bait car program that's actually doing real well.
baitcar.com
Actually have seen the dash cam video from a theft. Priceless.
that will be some exempt members excuse for peeing HOT. I JUST PUT A LITTLE WHITE POWDER I THOUGHT WAS BAIT ON THE TIP OF MY MEMBER AND , SHE WAS ALL ON IT ,LIKE A PRIZE CATCH AND DIDNT GET AWAY.
Why does the CC State's Attorney's Office stand behind this bait car and approve PSMV charges when any other time we find a guy in a legit stolen car the best we can get is CTTV?
I like bait banks and bait retail stores where steel roll down doors slam shut on the asshole until police arrive and robots surround him and taser him into whimpering shit-in-the-pants surrender.
They already have bait whores, Operation Angel.
The guy in the back said...
Why does the CC State's Attorney's Office stand behind this bait car and approve PSMV charges when any other time we find a guy in a legit stolen car the best we can get is CTTV?
6/09/2008 04:14:00 PM
DUH..Video?
There is actually a billboard set up on the southeast corner of 87th and vincennes on the metra viaduct wall that explains the bait car to this dipshits as a warning. Take a look at it, I saw it there this morning on the way to work
Metlife is a good stock to have!
Felony review says: huh? bait car? I'll get back to you on that. Now go run and ask Darren OB if you can approve charges.
I know one guy on the unit, and he is definitely a master baiter.
6/09/2008 10:59:00 AM
LOL,LOL,LOL roflmao that was hilarious
Just leave a bag of flaming hot cheetos and a grape pop inside and charge old Grady with burg to auto.
How about a bait bullet and when we shoot jag balls charge him with theft of city property?
The guy in the back said...
Why does the CC State's Attorney's Office stand behind this bait car and approve PSMV charges when any other time we find a guy in a legit stolen car the best we can get is CTTV?
6/09/2008 04:14:00 PM
DUH..Video?
6/09/2008 05:17:00 PM
Don't be so hard on him - the bait car program smacks of an "investigation" - when was the last time anybody put more than 15 minutes of real work in a PSMV case?
Write the GOCR, call it in to review, then bitch when charges get denied. Same old story
And another Slap-on-the-Wrist for the Offenders caught with this Bait Car Idea, another exorbatent waste of our tax dollars and rapidly thinning troops..
I'd like to teach, the World to sing, in per-fect har-mo-ny ..
Libs Gone Wild!!!
Who's liable?
How about the mope who stole the car?
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and what does he have to lose? A link card? his crack? DUH
How about a South African trojan horse??
"Write the GOCR..."
How about an Auto Theft Case Report?
A billboard at 87 and Vincennes that explains the bait car to the masses?
I hope it's in large print, with really little words, and a lot of pictures. If not, fuggedaboutit.
Anonymous said...
Don't be so hard on him - the bait car program smacks of an "investigation" - when was the last time anybody put more than 15 minutes of real work in a PSMV case?
Write the GOCR, call it in to review, then bitch when charges get denied. Same old story
6/09/2008 09:51:00 PM"
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I see if you worked this, you would do the wrong case report for the offense. Typical for a blog big mouth. G.O.C.R.? You talk about others and wouldn't even do the correct paperwork.
Get a life, fool!
Can we put this on an episode of the Verminators??
More bait cars more jay walking cops! i was watching the news and whatched the chick with a badge talking about the people crossing the street without cars stopping! Guess college taught you a lot! Is this overtime? If so it should be city wide how about looking into this fop? Mark wake up the alcohol has left your system!
Just a little FYI for all of the know it alls... I have done research on the bait cars through the insurance industry and will not give away too much, but most are based on cellular technology. You know how your cell phone goes out? Guess what? So does the transmitter to kill the car. GPS can be enabled but you have to be within cell tower range to shut down...
WRONG! Its based on 'cellular' technology compared to a phone as your garage door opener is to a missle guidance system. Same CONCEPT, but far stronger and wider capabilities-- i.e. no 'dropped calls'.
these guys have been in 008 several times, have seen the video and its acutally pretty cool. they have an a.s.a assigned to them at i think something like 93/93 on felony charges mostly due to the video...
the canadian crackheads at that baitcar site are priceless
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