Merit Board Change
All of those asking about why the Department hasn't made a Detective class in over a year or why there have only been two tiny classes of Sergeants off a list over two years old, we don't have the answers.
But we did notice an amendment to the Department Order governing the Merit Board. The Director of the Human Resources Division was added to the Board that decides who is and isn't worthy of the "merit" promotion. So that means we have the following:
But we did notice an amendment to the Department Order governing the Merit Board. The Director of the Human Resources Division was added to the Board that decides who is and isn't worthy of the "merit" promotion. So that means we have the following:
- Assistant Supt. of Operations (Jackson)
- Assistant Supt. of
BartendingAdmin (Cuello) - Dep. Supt. of Patrol (Dugan)
- Dep. Supt. of Investigative Services (Peterson)
- Dep. Supt. of Professional Standards (Brust)
- Dep. Supt. of Admin Services (O'Keefe)
- Director of Human Resources (Tracey Ladner)
So an additional civilian is added to the mix? And a quorum can be constituted (according to the order) if the following persons are present:
- Cuello or O'Keefe as chairperson and vice-chairperson
- two other members of the board
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
159 Comments:
Can someone tell me the actual qualifications for a merit promotion? seriously
This latest shuffling of the board members means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. It all boils down to a chosen few connected pieces of shit who get the nod because of favors owed, family/friend connections, political whores, nepotism, et al. Always been this way, always will.
More than likely, your next merit Sergeant will have never dialed the PAX to the Gun Desk or the number to Felony Review because s/he has never made a pinch requiring those phone calls.
S/he will be the one roping the ambulance in with crime scene tape at the first shooting they're called to coordinate.
The one who will admonish you (or worse) for having a five-o'clock-shadow or salty boots.
The one who won't know how to pacify the natives who insist on beefing on you.
The one who'll ask you, "So...what do YOU think he needs to be charged with?".
The one that'll tell war stories covering the 8 years s/he "worked" in units like Detached Services or Information Services.
So, to reiterate my point, it's the same old, worn-out bullshit game in a (sort of) brand new box. The "new" line-up/roster of the Merit Board means absolutley NOTHING for 99.9% of us peons.
90 SGT'S Were made so far off the current list. Rumors of Promotions and numbers???
They haven't called for merit submissions for any rank lately, so nothing coming our way.
So called hiring freeze, No P.O.'s to be hired this year??? Anyone hear that one???
We could really use some more P.O.'s and some Sgt's and Detectives.
How many guys will buy their pension time with the portability bill that passed and then retire?
Approx 17K a year, but it could be a nice payoff in the end if you live long enough to enjoy it.
Figure anyone with 15 or over could quickly get to a retirement pension if they are 50 and feel like leaving.
Interesting times we live in!
As i try to look back over the last two years and all the changes, i bet there has been almost the same amount of exempt movement as there has been of blue shirts to Det or Sgt. That doesn't seem right.
Everytime you look another white shirt is getting promoted, but when was the last time you heard of an everyday beat guy moving anywhere. I can't even remember the last class of anything, its been so long.
I know a great guy who is actually unclouted and working a beat car every day and scored well enough to be in the next dicks class but has been waiting i think over a year for the promo. It's thinking of guys like this that gives me hope and i trully am happy for him.
I know a few in line for sgt's promo too if they would start making some classes.
It's like they dangle the idea of studying hard and working hard will get you where you want to go, but then i see some of these guys that gave their all on the tests, did great, scored way up there, but still the city refuses to make classes and replace retiring det's and sgt's.
So what's the deal?
Can someone from FOP (or an extremely efficient po with a lot of time on his/her hands) post the number of retired/promoted detectives since the last det's test and same with the sgt's.
Just to see exactly how much of each we lose every year compared to the amount we gain.
I'll bet for every 10 we lose we've gotten 1 in return.
That's just my guess.
And don't even get me started on patrolmen. I bet it's more like for every 100 we lose we get 1.
It's getting really dangerous out there on those streets. Lot Lot more agg bats to the police and shooting at us has become routine. Either start hitting the gym/range to be able to survive or maybe we should start pressuring the union to actually pressure the city to give us some help out there!
WOW, that merit board is scary!!!
I can't even imagine the merit bosses we're going to have in the next few years. 30% of the sgt's are going to be absolute idiots and/or paper pusher from 35th.
Same old same old. What a joke of a crew that is. More non-police bosses making more non-police bosses. Like I said, same old same old and the pattern continues. B Cuello? Now a civilian too? What a shame! Good by police department it was nice knowing you.
OFF TOPIC--- Anyone else see a pattern?
Detroit has potholes... we have potholes
Detroit's industry left- our business are leaving
Detroit's Mayor is locked up-- ours is overdue
Detroit's a hockey town-- red is rising (hawks)
Detroit's papers are folding-- so are ours
It's like looking into the future!
Only if our if our City law makers had had the balls to do the same, check out this article I came across.
"In new tactic, L.A. goes after gangs' money"
"Los Angeles – The gang capital of the world is taking a new tack against them: cash damages.
The city of Los Angeles, plagued by 23,000 violent gang crimes since 2004, including 784 murders and 12,000 felony assaults, announced Tuesday that it had won its first civil judgment, for $5 million, against a criminal gang that had dominated the heroin trade downtown for decades. . . "
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090115/ts_csm/apayup
It's a good read, check it out.
...AND SO IT GOES...
"Merit Board", my ass!
Call it what it is--the CLOUT Board.
Actual Part I felony arrest activity, street experience in fast districts and native intelligence are absolutely meaningless.
At least a panel of kangaroos would be impartial to nepotism, political clout and out-and-out third party bribery.
Get the chevrons and silver bars out for the worthless suckholes that couldn't make a patch on a real copper's ass.
Oh, toss in a couple legit picks (with clout) to "make it look legit". Then open the flood gates for the likes of "Missy the parking ticket guru" and the clout babies.
Leadership and morale on the job are nonexistent. Yet this "board" only perpetuates the outrage for yet another generation of contemptible nitwits.
There was a time, before Shortshanks, when you could take a test and get promoted without having to suck up to anybody. There were probably too many people promoted though, that were qualified and unbeholden, so that practice had to stop. It's much harder to make a test-taking, career service promotee go away than it is a merit appointee. I guess the goal now is to turn the CPD into the Water Dept!!!
SCC SAID...
So potentially, on paper at least, we could have three persons with just about zero street experience choosing who the leaders of street cops are supposed to be?
Yeah, but they all get their orders from Daley, and who better than a career criminal would know how to man the Dept so HE won't get caught! After all HE doesn't want some loose cannon supervisor that HE can't control, trying to follow some kind of criminal conspiracy that leads right to the Office of The Mayor, CAN WE???
As i try to look back over the last two years and all the changes, i bet there has been almost the same amount of exempt movement as there has been of blue shirts to Det or Sgt. That doesn't seem right.
Everytime you look another white shirt is getting promoted, but when was the last time you heard of an everyday beat guy moving anywhere. I can't even remember the last class of anything, its been so long.
THIS IS WHAT CAUSES THE LIKES OF SOS SCANDLES. THE LITTLE PEOPLE WORK HARD, TEST WELL AND GET IT SHOVED IN THEIR FACES. EVENTUALLY THEY SHOVE BACK AND GET AHEAD ANOTHER WAY BE IT LEGAL OR NOT. WAKE UP YOU IDIOTS AT 35TH AND MICHIGAN
I am a merit sergeant, never hid that from anyone. Let me add that I feel your pain. I have/had no political clout. My clout was always the policemen I worked with. Over the years I have known 100's of coppers that should have been supervisors, some in my opinion way before me. The only thing I had going for me is that by the time I made sergeant (merit) I had 26 years on the job. The difference between myself and the sergeants today that I see is that there was no job that I hadnt handled and knew how to handle. For those 26 years they couldnt assign enough jobs to me because I was having a ball. Dont give up and dont stop doing your job. I almost made it on the list once but the city sent me a letter dropping me 26 points to standardize me. I think the point I'm trying to make is dont give up.
I couldnt work under the conditions you work now, taking meaningless orders from some nephew, brother,sister or friend of the fat cat polititian that has 5/6 years on the job. I honestly hope it gets better for the rank and file but cant see that happening any time soon. From the top down you are working for the most incompetant upper echelon that I have ever been witness to. Not all of them but a big portion. Its a sad day when you have to pick and choose which boss you can go to for assistance. That day is here. Keep the faith, I feel your pain.
The change is because Capt promotions are coming (by Apr), followed by Lts., then Sgts, then Det.
That that to the bank!!!
It has always been that way since merit started in 1995- the first lieutenant's class when they walked in some merit. Actually the first real merit, but not stated , was the first class of sergeants in 1988. There were about 240 but not many of one minority. They sent us home and refused to swear us in until the Hall called. Next time for swearing in, they walked in 8 or 10 officers and everything was alright. One of those walked in later became a deputy supe.
Nothing is legit nor will it ever be on this job.
In winter of 1982 we worked the
1st watch when the air temp was 27 below and 26 below on back to back nights. THe Windchill was 84 below. Now that was cold. THis is just a chill but I am 26 years older but I will be out there tonight at -14. Stay warm.
1/15/2009 07:54:00 PM
I have an idea why dont you retire? This is only a crap job not your life, enjoy whatever family/friends you have left. People that have over 30 years on the job should be forced to retire, the is no need to stay on. Go enjoy yourself in some 80's and sunshine, not in this crap state.
J-Fed has yet to give a categorical, unequivocal written definition of "merit", Chicago-style.
No criteria or meaningful qualifications for promotions.
This job is soooooooooooo fucked up.
If the CPD started off as a "Fortune 500" company, it would have filed for bankruptcy at least 20 years ago.
Doesn't mater who is on the fucking board. My clout isn't there. In fact, my fucking clout is retired and in a nursing home with Alzheimer's! So much for my merit promotion.
I used to think Northside was a crazy, bitter, cranky retiree. I still think he's bitter and cranky, but I now understand why! I'll never boast about being "supercop", but when I see some of the people who are currently wearing white shirts thanks to merit promotions, I am sickened, disgusted and embarrassed.
I truly believe the #1 cause for the complete lack of morale in this department is the politically tainted and nepotism filled merit promotion system.
With the exception of Dugan, who by the way, would never have been promoted if his name was Duganski, Duganello, Duganius, etc, all of the sworn merit board memebers are merit promotees. They could not do what three generations of this family did-study and pass a test, sometimes take a test more than once to finally get promoted. Each one is able to rise in the morning, look into a mirror, and know they stole someones else job. Jackson and Cuello are affirmative action hires and promotee's and could not succeed on a level playing field. Peterson? Who knows. But the detective division seems to have a big problem clearing murders lately.
"There was a time, before Shortshanks, when you could take a test and get promoted without having to suck up to anybody."
Right-all you had to do was pay a years salary to the alderman and the mayor would get his cut. Say what you will about the goofy mayor-with the current system t least some people slip by the clout process as opposed to none.
THATS FAIR ISNT IT!
THEY DONT EVEN TAKE THE FOLLOWING THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION!
ARREST
WHAT DISTRICT YOU WORK IN
AMOUNT OF TIME ON JOB
EDUCATION
AMOUNT OF TRAINING YOU HAVE
IF YOU HAVE BUSINESS SKILLS (THEIR ARE QUITE A FEW WELL TO DO OFFICER OUT THERE)
SO WHAT DO THEY TAKE?
A COMMANDER WHO KNOWS SOME OF HIS STAFFS AND WHO HAS JUST THEMSELVE PROMOTED TO A DISTRICT SELECTS 2 OR 3 PICKS.
A COLOR PAPER CLIPS IS PLACED ON THE ACTUAL PICK.
4 THOSE OF U WHO ASK TO BE PUT IN THE FOLLOWING EXCUSES R USED TO SHUT U UP.
NO COLLEGE
NOT ENUFF TIME IN UNIT
NOT ENUFF ARREST
TO MUCH TIME IN SAME PLACE
NO CAPS EXPERIENCE
2 MANY CR'S
2 MANY DAYS OFF
THEY WILL PLACATE YOU BY HAVING U FILL OUT THE SILLY FORM BUT WILL LEAVE IT ON THEIR DESK.
SO YEA ITS FAIR!?
In the City of Chicago and certainly in the CPD, a "merit job" is nothing more than a euphemism for a blowjob and a lousy one at that.
It's getting really dangerous out there on those streets. Lot Lot more agg bats to the police... send us some help out there!
1/16/2009 01:54:00 AM
sorry but not true
obviously you missed the 80's and 90's in the projects
You know damn well that none of those listed are choosing anything other than what/who they are told.
pick me, pick me...
How many of them know where we sign in at 26th st?????
Only our best and brightest can make it on "merit". Fo' shizzle.
Isn't it amazing how these corrupt, shameless, in-your-face mother fuckers are allowed to operate with no accountability to anyone except Lord Shortshanks and his designated clout mongers?
How about TG 023 Tac, former 011 District ranger, crying to everyone that will listen that he was screwed out of a merit promotion. As someone who worked with him in both districts, who ever submitted his name should be demoted.
Can someone tell me the actual qualifications for a merit promotion? seriously
1/16/2009 12:36:00 AM
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Do u got a purty mouth?
Daley is not spending a dime on anything except the Olympics. Don't expect any thing that costs more money he's crying broke but has MILLIONS stashed for the Olympics! Another city hall lackey to appoint some piece of crap that sucks ass and never worked the street other tham probation to the top!
From today's PAX 501:
One of my largest concerns is ensuring that we have enough supervisors on the streets; I have heard from many of you that this is a concern too. To that end, and working with the City, we have finalized the
Department’s hiring plan for 2009.
In addition to the 200 sworn police officers, the Department has been promised that we will be able to promote nine captains, 40 lieutenants, 80 sergeants and 85 detectives as well as 35 officers at D2 pay.
It is extremely important to me that, as an organization, we are as transparent as possible. As we move forward, I want every member of the Department to be aware of what we can anticipate in terms of hiring, promotions, and other matters that affect all of us.
While the above hiring plan represents a compromise, and can always be affected by other events, I believe it is a positive step and reflects the commitment of both the Department, and the City, to ensure that we move
as quickly as possible to ensure adequate coverage on the street.
Thank you for your service and, as always, be safe.
How come patrolman are asked to do more and more for no reward. SWAT is the only unit that sticks together to make some gains. SWAT is about to get sgts pay and each member is guaranteed two days per month at airport. They got this by standing together and demanding whats right. This should be a lesson to all of us ,the squeaky wheel gets the grease, use the westside revs as an example. Anytime we ask for whats right we are called cry babies. Then if we are all spokes in the same wheel we should all get the same pay. If that happened you would see how fast these company loving boss's would become cry babies. Team work brothers and sisters, the kind that matters.
I bet Dan Dugan will be feeling quite lonely when the merit board meets, being the only "policeman" in the group.
Only if our if our City law makers had had the balls to do the same, check out this article I came across.
"In new tactic, L.A. goes after gangs' money"
"Los Angeles – The gang capital of the world is taking a new tack against them: cash damages.
The city of Los Angeles, plagued by 23,000 violent gang crimes since 2004, including 784 murders and 12,000 felony assaults, announced Tuesday that it had won its first civil judgment, for $5 million, against a criminal gang that had dominated the heroin trade downtown for decades. . . "
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090115/ts_csm/apayup
It's a good read, check it out.
I hate to burst your bubble ... but WE have a law on the books for such a civil action.
CIVIL LIABILITIES
(740Â ILCSÂ 147/) Illinois Streetgang Terrorism Omnibus Prevention Act. 1987
Look it up and then try to get the state's attorneys office to go forward .... that is a laugh ...
Anonymous said...
As i try to look back over the last two years and all the changes, i bet there has been almost the same amount of exempt movement as there has been of blue shirts to Det or Sgt. That doesn't seem right.
Everytime you look another white shirt is getting promoted, but when was the last time you heard of an everyday beat guy moving anywhere. I can't even remember the last class of anything, its been so long.
1/16/2009 01:40:00 AM
Hello? There has been a lot of movement, like demotions, lateral movement with exempts.
They're not hiring anyone to wear the blue shirts. So can you really afford to start promoting people?
The city does this all the time. They wait until they desprately need to promote people and short the supervisors and detectives. It's always been this way. Why? Because they save money.
When you decide to come back from fantasy land & return to reality, Street Experienced Exempts went by the Wayside when Rodriguez was Supe. All those that followed him had staff that was inundated by Non-Police Civilian Political Hacks put there by the
5th Floor. The days of actual Police Officers that came up with thru the ranks with Street experience went by the way with the Kel Light.
to the next 14 Lt's on the list you will be promoted before June, oh yeah sorry add the six merit. Maybe one will be legit, but either way they will soon be a lt.
it's all such a joke, isn't it? and it would be funny, if it weren't so sad....Department management is politically (and that's politics with a small "p", for the politics of race, gender, ethnicity, friendship and family connections, clout) corrupt, morally bankrupt, and intellectually deficient; and that's the positive side of it!
I was on the job for over 32yrs.
Realize that this is just the way it is. Do not frustrate yourself over something you can not change.
Go out every day enjoy yourself as much as possible on the job.
Truth is a person with no clout, and the right attitude will have a better time, than these clout up kiss asses. Many of the people who have these jobs are so worried about losing them, they cannot enjoy them.
OT: Anyone hear of a lawsuit involving two coppers that were sued for unlawful arrest? Supposedly, they arresested an individual for DOPW. At court it was determined that there was no evidence to support the charge and subsequently the case was SOL'ed. I guess since they didn't inventory the can of beer, it was thought that they put the case on defendant. Apparently, they were sued, along with the city, and the defendant was awarded money. As a result you now need to inventory can/bottle as eveidence. TRUE OR URBAN LEGEND?
Everybody keeps yapping about the potential of merit Sgts being made. But you keep forgetting the merit Sgts that will become merit Lts (thereby becoming watch commanders), and a select few merit Lts becoming merit Cpts. And the hits just keep on coming.
A common theme I keep seeing is working in a "fast district>" Could somebody please tell me what that actually means. Granted there are places that don't get the amont of calls, make the same amount of arrests, or deal with the clientel as much. But just because a guy has enough senority to bid someplace else doesn't make him any less qualified (given the tests were to be fair-which we know aren't). The animals are mobile, gangs are everywhere, and "crime doesn't take a vacation." It may be "slower" in some districts, but there are still some good coppers working in these districts. Granted they spent their time in the mills, then transferred. But they're still there. Handling more jobs doesn't make you any better a coopper than they. And don't kid yourself. If you had the chance you'll leave too when the time and opportunity presenhts itself.
Anonymous said...
Either start hitting the gym/range to be able to survive or maybe we should start pressuring the union to actually pressure the city to give us some help out there!
1/16/2009 01:54:00 AM
#1) It will always be to your own benefit to keep yourself in peak physical condition and in top shooting form;
#2) You should assume that FOP, IN ITS OWN IMPOTENT WAY, is ALWAYS pressuring the city to get you 'help out there' and look out for your interests. HOWEVER, compared to the festering corruption that IS our city government, ingrained in Chicago since the days of Al Capone, and meticulously exposed in the Jim Osbourne/Water Dept letter, you should also assume that FOP IS IMPOTENT to gain much of anything for its members. This is not a slam on the Union as much as it is a peek at our dismal reality.
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC--- Anyone else see a pattern?
Detroit has potholes... we have potholes
Detroit's industry left- our business are leaving
Detroit's Mayor is locked up-- ours is overdue
Detroit's a hockey town-- red is rising (hawks)
Detroit's papers are folding-- so are ours
It's like looking into the future!
1/16/2009 02:06:00 AM
The same can be said for GDANSK!
So much for TRANSPARENCY in "the process".
Right, Weis, you fucking weasel.
Coming in, you had a great opportunity to bring about desperately needed reforms and do the right thing, asshole. You suck worse than a "merit" lieutenant.
Still no standardized written defintion of "merit". Why? Would that be too difficult for you when you condone, even aid and abet Shortshanks' widespread political corruption?
Get out of town, you useless tool.
Merit promotees will continue to fall within Six Degrees of Separation of the Mayor (or less)... the new civilian will be responsible for the math in keeping it so.
OT: Who's the jaggoff M/2 copper in 189 that couldn't heed the pooolices' orders at 14th and Komensky? Just a bit of advise...when you have a gun on your side also have your badge. And shut the fuck up and comply. You put yourself, and more importantly, all those 10th Dist. officers in harms way. You're glad your ass didn't get shot.
It's a well known fact that Shortshanks and his people, the aldercreaures, J-Fed and the bosses and all local news media monitor SCC.
You'd think using anonymity, they would try to defend all this "merit" bullshit we must suffer.
Do you ever wonder why?
BECAUSE THEY CAN'T!
Everyone knows this town is one colossally corrupt Mongolian clusterfuck.
In the end, who loses? As always, the clueless, apathetic and uninformed taxpayers.
Give the city the police force that they truly deserve.
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me the actual qualifications for a merit promotion? seriously
1/16/2009 12:36:00 AM
Sexual proclivity
There will be NO promotions of any kind (Det's, Sgt's, Lt's) for the yr of 2009. It s not in the budget, this coincides with the "do more with less" attitude from the ivory tower.
Anonymous said...
There was a time, before Shortshanks, when you could take a test and get promoted without having to suck up to anybody. There were probably too many people promoted though, that were qualified and unbeholden, so that practice had to stop.
I agree 100%. Bosses don't like people they can't control. An unbeholden promotee owes no one and therefore refuses to suck up.
The qualified and unbeholden promotee is DEDICATED to doing his job correctly and providing guidance and representation for his subordinates.
Anonymous said...
Only if our City law makers had the balls to do the same, check out this article I came across.
"In new tactic, L.A. goes after gangs' money"
1/16/2009 02:36:00 AM
DUDE! It's called ASSET FORFEITURE, and we've been doing it here, in various forms, for years.
The difference is, in L.A. THEY WANT people to know about it.
Here, DALEY AND HIS DEN OF THIEVES, personally absorb the assets ASAP and DON'T WANT the people to know about it!
A quick step further, I believe assets seized are required by law to be turned over to the county for determination as to its future use in "fighting crime". How appropriate then, that DALEY AND HIS DEN OF THIEVES has a card carrying member as the Crook County Board Presdent and another as the chairman of the county Finance Committee (John Daley). The trail of corruption leads EVERYWHERE!!!
Merit promotion qualifications: skeleton in your closet (for insurance).
If your boss can't control you; you are dangerous to him.
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me the actual qualifications for a merit promotion? seriously
1/16/2009 12:36:00 AM
You must be within Six Degrees of Separation from the Mayor!
Face it without hiring more P.O.'s there will be no promotions at least of any substantial amount, do the math, shortage of p.o.'s more retiring than being hired why deplete an already depleted group? rumor is one more class of det.'s(or 2 small classes) then shit-canning both lists and doing it Jodys way
Watch for T.P. in 021 to make merit sgt. He's been kissing the right ass lately.
....and 20 lieutenants off of a $5 million dollar test that took forever-and was screwed up so bad they had to retest for part of it!
Fuckin stupid,lame,dumb, and stupid.
Oh ya I feel REEEEALY bad for all you people that studied the questions sooooo hard at your secret study groups. Now you don't get the promotion you "deserve"! booooo hooooo
Fat shit Gerry Callahan was in Skokie court today. Once a jagoff always a jagoff, stupid parks in the handicap spot and walks into court knowing the media is there waiting for him.
well then tell us about your best felony arrest?
i haven't made any.
well how about your best midemeanor
arrest?
i havent made a misdemeanor arrest.
then whst the hell qualifies you to be an inspector !
Clint Eastwood the Enforcer.
apply to any merit clout hack!
"It's a good read, check it out.
1/16/2009 02:36:00 AM"
Effectively, that would mean the midget would be suing himself.
New PAX 501 out... Judy is going to promote 9 capts, 40 lts, 80 sgts, 85 dics, and 35 d2....going to hire 200 pos.... By my math that leaves us 49 short????... Not counting retirees!!!!!WTF
these tests are highly dubious. you have college grads with plenty of police experence and are good test takers...scoring in the middle of the pack..yet these tac and gang nimords that cant tie their shoes.. scoring in the top 50? yeah right its all legit. certain people were given either the questions or answers or both. this department is full of selfish sellouts. everybody fights over crumbs. there are no more real bosses anymore. havent been for a long time.
10 Captains March-April
20 Lts May
50 Sgts April
80 Dets July
200 Recruits This Year
Its a Done Deal
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me the actual qualifications for a merit promotion? seriously
1/16/2009 12:36:00 AM
You have to be made, like in the mafia hahahahahahahahaha.
FOP LODGE 7 - Biggest in the State of Illinois but unfortunately Worst in the State of Illinois. Damn Shame!
These asshats need to shape up and do their jobs or ship out
Read the PAX 501 that came out today from the Superintendent:
9 Captains----ALL MERIT
40 Lts.----28 off list (30% merit)
80 Sgts----56 off list (30% merit)
85 Det.----66 off list (20% merit)
200 new hires for 2009, and that is all folks. That is what the city is giving us for this year.
Daley is running the city on bare bones, and if we do not get the Olympics, he will know just how much he can hold on to :budget wise" to keep the city barely running, and pocket the rest of the money for his "special projects"
Help is on the way, guys.
Can you hold on for just one more decade?
Getting promoted on this job is no different than trying to get into a special unit, like Swat. Everything depends on who you know, and not what you know. Like the clout babys that dont do shit, Swat also spends all day shooting off rounds and doing nothing. When is the las time they assisted officers on the street when having a 10-1. You would assume that Swat would be all over the street, but no they are no where to be found. I no longer give a shit about this department. I go to work put in my 8 hours and assist other officers in need of help. There are a few officers that deserve to be in special units, Swat, tact, Gang intel, but for the most part those departments are full of shit. One jagbag after another talking about their alleged war story.
OT : SCC I thought that the health insurance being taken out after taxes was an error! Did I miss something?
Does anyone know Ladners credentials that even landed her a spot in the CPD----NONE
I can see some civilian people being put in for meritorious promotion under her, she can do that, she's a dictator--director I mean.
O'Keefe would crap his pants if he ever met someone from the Westside on a dark Chicago street, but put him at HQ and hes a top contender for the UFC.
Nice job Daley, this use to be a career for many guys, now its only a job!!!
Great The Director of HUMAN Resources on a Board for Merit Promotion of police...Wait she hates the POLice
OT: Who's the jaggoff M/2 copper in 189 that couldn't heed the pooolices' orders at 14th and Komensky? Just a bit of advise...when you have a gun on your side also have your badge. And shut the fuck up and comply. You put yourself, and more importantly, all those 10th Dist. officers in harms way. You're glad your ass didn't get shot.
1/16/2009 12:04:00 PM
You need advice yourself! If you have something to say to the guy and you know somuch. Go over to Homan and say it in his face! You sound like a pussy with a star waiting to get his card pulled. You wouldn't have shot him, all you can do is talk shit on this blog! SHUT THE FUCK UP PPO!
12:05 PM
Could you explain the difference between a (standard) clusterfuck and a Mongolian clusterfuck?
Is it a matter of degree?
Pax 501 out today...
2009 to see promotions
9 Captains
40 Lieutenants
80 Sergeantsw
85 Detectives
35 D2's
Read the PAX 501 that came out today from the Superintendent:
9 Captains----ALL MERIT
40 Lts.----28 off list (30% merit)
80 Sgts----56 off list (30% merit)
85 Det.----66 off list (20% merit)
CAPTAINS have always been selected this way, there's no test for captain.
are working for the most incompetant upper echelon that I have ever been witness to. Not all of them but a big portion. Its a sad day when you have to pick and choose which boss you can go to for assistance. That day is here. Keep the faith, I feel your pain.
1/16/2009 06:40:00 A
Let us guess - you earned it??
Don't hurt yourself pating your own back.
No ned to hide it, but to say you earned it?
Matter of opinoin
Anonymous said...
How come patrolman are asked to do more and more for no reward. SWAT is the only unit that sticks together to make some gains. SWAT is about to get sgts pay and each member is guaranteed two days per month at airport. They got this by standing together and demanding whats right. This should be a lesson to all of us ,the squeaky wheel gets the grease, use the westside revs as an example. Anytime we ask for whats right we are called cry babies. Then if we are all spokes in the same wheel we should all get the same pay. If that happened you would see how fast these company loving boss's would become cry babies. Team work brothers and sisters, the kind that matters.
1/16/2009 09:05:00 AM
no 4-6 days per month!
Anonymous said...
A common theme I keep seeing is working in a "fast district>" Could somebody please tell me what that actually means.
1/16/2009 11:13:00 AM
The point where you acknowledged that "it may be slower in some districts" is precisely where you answered your own question.
Anonymous said...
Read the PAX 501 that came out today from the Superintendent:
9 Captains----ALL MERIT
40 Lts.----28 off list (30% merit)
80 Sgts----56 off list (30% merit)
85 Det.----66 off list (20% merit)
200 new hires for 2009, and that is all folks. That is what the city is giving us for this year.
1/16/2009 03:29:00 PM
200 new hires? Around 600 will retire, maybe more. Expect us to be even more shorthanded than we are now. Take care of your equipment, even the old crappy beat up shit. When that goes it will be a long wait for replacements.
OT: Anyone hear of a lawsuit involving two coppers that were sued for unlawful arrest? Supposedly, they arresested an individual for DOPW. At court it was determined that there was no evidence to support the charge and subsequently the case was SOL'ed. I guess since they didn't inventory the can of beer, it was thought that they put the case on defendant. Apparently, they were sued, along with the city, and the defendant was awarded money. As a result you now need to inventory can/bottle as eveidence. TRUE OR URBAN LEGEND?
1/16/2009 10:40:00 AM
yep, it's true
I don't know the Mayor well enough to be able to get close enough so I might have a shot to kiss his ass so I sent him a letter with my lips imprinted on he letter.
I used a beige blush type of lip gloss so he can't miss the imprint. Do you think that will help me make Sgt. I threw a lot of "yeah boss" and "you right boss" and yes sir boss, anything you say boss" in there. I sure hope he reads it and is impressed with my ass kissing ability so I might be promoted. Then watch the fuck out you damn blue shirted miscreants! I will straighten you all out for my Mayor, yes I will!
Oh please promote me, please please please promote me! My dick will get bigger too if I get promoted.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me the actual qualifications for a merit promotion? seriously
1/16/2009 12:36:00 AM
You have to work hard, not get in trouble, make lots of good arrests, get some top department awards and generally put bad guys in jail and make a name for yourself as a good policeman.
And have the right parents.
1st and 16th said...
In winter of 1982 we worked the
1st watch when the air temp was 27 below and 26 below on back to back nights. THe Windchill was 84 below. Now that was cold. THis is just a chill but I am 26 years older but I will be out there tonight at -14. Stay warm.
1/15/2009 07:54:00 PM
Yeah? Well I used to walk to school barefoot and it was 3 miles, uphill in both directions too!
I remember the winter of 67, the fucking snow was so deep I lost the six pack of Schlitz I had buried for my eye opener on the way to school and had to make do with the half dog of Jim Beam I carried with me. I don't drink any more however. I am waiting for my liver transplant.
"I bet Dan Dugan will be feeling quite lonely when the merit board meets, being the only "policeman" in the group."
1/16/2009 09:10:00 AM
Sure thing Dan!!! Haaaaaaaaa
""From today's PAX 501:
Department’s hiring plan for 2009
In addition to the 200 sworn police officers, the Department has been promised that we will be able to promote nine captains, 40 lieutenants, 80 sergeants and 85 detectives as well as 35 officers at D2 pay.""
So lets see here....
80 sgts+ 85 dets +35 D2's =200
Total patrolman hired for '09 =200
Looks good, but wait a minute.....
When will we see these 200 new hires on the street actually doing us some good when they can work on thier own???? 2010.
And ummm lets see....about 20 retirees, deaths, and lateral transfers a month 20*12=240.
SO 200(new hires)+ 240= MINIMUM 440 patrolman short on the street in 2009.
They're finally putting a new recruit class through end of February or March! My son just got a letter after waiting on the list 3 years.
merit promotions lead to bosses such as this
I’m the LT who knows is all
When in doubt my clout I’ll call
So long, farewell, we’re glad you’re through
Now police work once more we’ll do
Your leadership the worst by far
That I’ve seen since I earned my star
In patrol you never did fit
The entire watch called you idiot
Approve our arrest is all we desire
Not your screeching like your hair’s on fire
Outside units also knew
The pain of enduring your arrest review
Cuase you sucked some bosses balls
Your merit promotion has doomed us all
Mystified we all are
Who you blew to get your bar
Nonsense and useless your orders were each day
But for your politics the blue shirts pay
The girls on Madison work harder than you
As for police work they have more of a clue
Even the newest popo knows
When repeatedly kicked the window blows
So here’s hoping your career will tank
Then all patrol will give their thanks
To laugh and point is so mean
So condolences we send to 214
Snethen is right. I happened to be a six year sergeant who was in Snethen's class. I was humbled to be around guys like him and other "old timers" with so much knowledge. Looking at some other older coppers who didn't make it, I felt somewhat guilty but I tested well and I sure as hell wasn't going to turn down a promotion. But to the guy talking about "fast districts", they do matter. The part of police work that isn't common sense and natural ability is repetition. Someone who works in a fast district is likely to know the ins and outs a little better because they have done things that they ask about on tests (chases, shootings, crime scenes etc.) a lot more times than a guy who has spent his time in a cushy district.
A guy like Snethen will always admit they are meritorious because they merit their promotion. They are the alleged reason we have a merit system. He knew his stuff and paid his dues. The clowns that don't admit it or admit they went to the 35th. street "study" group know that they are scum and are embarrassed of it. Don't forget the guys that have to tell you why they deserved their merit promotions...they suck balls too.
I am a bid day Officer and have no desire to do anything for this City anymore! I cruise around on City gas and go do personal errands!
Fuck you bosses and this City! This City does NOT deserve hard working coppers like I used to be. Can't get into trouble for doing nothing!
Off the subject. Anyone know anything about Judge James Linn. He just found 2 Calumet City officers not guilty of battery and official misconduct. Case stemmed from on-duty incident caught on camera. From what I hear the judge ripped the prosecution and totally sided with the officers.
7:17 AM ("can't wait to retire")
Your statement compels me to respond. You are incorrect on several counts:
(1) Many people correctly regard me as "good crazy" or a free-spirited extrovert.
(2) Those who actually know me agree that I have a pleasant, upbeat disposition--unless someone fucks with me.
(3) I do not suffer fools gracefully. This might explain why you describe me as "bitter" and/or "cranky". Fortunately, as you will learn in retirement, it is rare that you must actually deal with such assholes. Life after the CPD is very good, thank you.
(4) At the risk of sounding arrogant, I know that I was very good at my chosen calling. I worked my ass off with a passion for my love of the job. Under analysis, what you may claim as a "boast" is merely stating FACTS to prove a point.
Like you, I am "sickened, disgusted and embarrassed" that Daley and management have so demoralized my once proud CPD that most active officers no longer raise their head in pride knowing they are "Chicago's Finest".
I am in total agreement with your last paragraph.
Anonymous said...
Only if our if our City law makers had had the balls to do the same, check out this article I came across.
"In new tactic, L.A. goes after gangs' money"
"Los Angeles – The gang capital of the world is taking a new tack against them: cash damages.
The city of Los Angeles, plagued by 23,000 violent gang crimes since 2004, including 784 murders and 12,000 felony assaults, announced Tuesday that it had won its first civil judgment, for $5 million, against a criminal gang that had dominated the heroin trade downtown for decades. . . "
http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20090115/ts_csm/apayup
It's a good read, check it out.
I hate to burst your bubble ... but WE have a law on the books for such a civil action.
CIVIL LIABILITIES
(740Â ILCSÂ 147/) Illinois Streetgang Terrorism Omnibus Prevention Act. 1987
Look it up and then try to get the state's attorneys office to go forward .... that is a laugh ...
Your right it is a laugh...
Trying to get the Asset Forfeiture/Money Laundering States Attornies to move forward is a joke. ASA Paul S. and Tony K. are two morons with law degrees that could not cut it in the real world.
Thank you Anita Alvarez for getting rid of that Anti-Police POS Paul. Now if you can do the same with Tony maybe, just maybe the City and County would move forward on some huge $ seizures that they keep giving back to the shit heads. Since when is the burden of proof on us? Why should we have to prove that the money confiscated came from illicit means? That's right countless times CPD Officer's would recover 50K - 100K or even a Million and they would give it back since there was no dope recovered with it. Instead of filing for the money and letting the shit heads prove to the court where they got the money from - the dynamic duo Paul and Tony would want the PO's to prove that it came from illicit means and if they couldn't then the shit heads would pick up there money with out a fight.
FUCKING JOKE IS FUCKING RIGHT SCC
fUCK tHIS dEPT
Anonymous said...
Can someone tell me the actual qualifications for a merit promotion? seriously
1/16/2009 12:36:00 AM
Fallatio
Bribes
Political donations
Butt ramming
Playing tea party while dressed like lil bo peep.
Chinaman
blackmail
Gee, what a surprise. Our superintendent has no Police experience either.
fox news at 9 just had a big story with j fed... I dont really thing he did all that bad. im sure he was a great agent with the fbi, but i still dont think he should be our boss. It was a good interview, he admitted that crime was up arrests were down, morale was down etc.. but he predicted that 2008 was the "learing curve" and that 2009 was going to be a better year with more results... for your sake, hope your right j fed... the poll questing on fox news tonight is, "do you think supt weis has done a good job?" results will be at 10 o clock.
Anonymous said...
Off the subject. Anyone know anything about Judge James Linn. He just found 2 Calumet City officers not guilty of battery and official misconduct. Case stemmed from on-duty incident caught on camera. From what I hear the judge ripped the prosecution and totally sided with the officers.
1/16/2009 08:05:00 PM
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I have had dealings with him many times before, mainly in getting search warrants signed. He was totally professional whenever I talked with him, discussed a caper going on, had to testify in his courtroom, etc. I think pretty highly of him, always good to me
The change is because Capt promotions are coming (by Apr), followed by Lts., then Sgt's, then Det.
That that to the bank!!!
1/16/2009 06:50:00 AM
HELLO, The BANKER says No, No,No, ain't so.
The squeeze is on, no big promotions for all of '09.
Hell, you'll be lucky to see a few SMALL classes of well connected recruits, if any!
The Game Plan is to use ALL the available bosses we already have. There are a lot of Lt's, Sgt's, and a few Capt's that are hidden from view.
Well, Jody says, time's up, get to work you loafers (at least for a year, then in '10, we will be back to hiding them as clout and phone calls provide, example; Carter's new secretary in 004, a four year wonder that is totally inept, but must have hidden talents elsewhere).
Work hard, the Mayor is counting on you!
p.s. The BANKER is "Max Madsen", but he's not Crazy!
TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY AS YOU APPROACH THE CAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOUR BEING VIDEO TAPED OR RECORDED. SOME OF YOU HAVE REAL BAD ATTITUDES UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU PULLED OVER THE POLICE,,,, FOOD FOR THOUGHT. GO MERIT!!!!!
Read the PAX 501 that came out today from the Superintendent:
9 Captains----ALL MERIT
40 Lts.----28 off list (30% merit)
80 Sgts----56 off list (30% merit)
85 Det.----66 off list (20% merit)
CAPTAINS have always been selected this way, there's no test for captain.
*** Not ALWAYS, newbie.
The merit promotions were just a thin veil to continue affirmative action promotions without any lists at all. Cant you already see the effects of merit creeping into all ranks, exempt especially. I would like to know where AUnt Bea finished on her Sgts. and Lts. lists, any guesses on that one. Supervisors with no real field experience are now the rule not the exception. The comment about crime scene taping in the ambulance is right on the money.
The Department is screwed.
Retired ans happy
Anonymous said...
OT: Anyone hear of a lawsuit involving two coppers that were sued for unlawful arrest? Supposedly, they arresested an individual for DOPW. At court it was determined that there was no evidence to support the charge and subsequently the case was SOL'ed. I guess since they didn't inventory the can of beer, it was thought that they put the case on defendant. Apparently, they were sued, along with the city, and the defendant was awarded money. As a result you now need to inventory can/bottle as eveidence. TRUE OR URBAN LEGEND?
1/16/2009 10:40:00 AM
yep, it's true
1/16/2009 06:41:00 PM
I agree. as far back as 25 years ago, we would inventory a small glass vial of the amber liquid as evidence. This practice has gone away for the most part. 9th district was notorious for locking up "drinkers" from the parks. Easy CB.
Anonymous said...
Watch for T.P. in 021 to make merit sgt. He's been kissing the right ass lately.
1/16/2009 12:57:00 PM
He's a smarmy suckfish.
Read the PAX 501 that came out today from the Superintendent:
9 Captains----ALL MERIT
40 Lts.----28 off list (30% merit)
80 Sgts----56 off list (30% merit)
85 Det.----66 off list (20% merit)
CAPTAINS have always been selected this way, there's no test for captain.
1/16/2009 05:52:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
are working for the most incompetant upper echelon that I have ever been witness to. Not all of them but a big portion. Its a sad day when you have to pick and choose which boss you can go to for assistance. That day is here. Keep the faith, I feel your pain.
1/16/2009 06:40:00 A
Let us guess - you earned it??
Don't hurt yourself pating your own back.
No ned to hide it, but to say you earned it?
Matter of opinoin
1/16/2009 06:03:00 PM
Let me make this really simple for you officer, nowhere did you read that I said I deserved it, nowhere did you read that I said earned it and if you had the opinion that I was patting myself on the back, you are mistaken.
And for the really simple part that you will understand, go fuck yourself!
Anonymous said...
Off the subject. Anyone know anything about Judge James Linn. He just found 2 Calumet City officers not guilty of battery and official misconduct. Case stemmed from on-duty incident caught on camera. From what I hear the judge ripped the prosecution and totally sided with the officers.
1/16/2009 08:05:00 PM
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Linn is OK. He is not Pro Police or Pro Defense. He is Fair and open minded. I wish more judges were like him.
"....playing tea party while dressed like Little Bo Peep...."
You were there, too?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
The City owes me much money for not considering me for any merit promotions in decades, I have a better work record, medical record, disciplinary record, Arrest and Conviction Record, etc; than at least half of the Merit- Pay - to -Play promotees. I can't wait till my attorney gets done with these City thiefs and gets Subpoenas these Goof-Balls into Fed. Coburt to "explain' just exactly what their Definition of "Meritorious Promotion" is, with applicable examples. Then it will be compared to the Standards of Legit Police Departments Nationwide.
Hoping to Retire Rich
Once again, the babbling FOP President and Co. does NOTHING to ensure the Fairness of Promotion of dues paying members, while he pockets the perks of the position we pay for him to occupy. Time to launch this guy just like all the rest of the Crook Politicians, Carpetbaggers, and Glad-Handing double-talkers we're surrounded by. 3 Months till Spring. Then, the bullshit babble and double-talk ends and the rank and file take action....
TO: Northside;
Part 1 Arrests are B.S. Even they are phonied up the Chicago Way, not based on Justice Dept. definitions, besides, any Idiot can arrest someone. Felony Convictions are what count, obviously. The rest is all Chicago Nonsense to make Bosses look good to their higher-ups.
"...handling more jobs doesn't make you a better copper than they are..."
It makes you more experienced and more aware. Repetition is the best teacher.
I think Dugan would have been promoted higher if his last name was Duganopolos. Or he could sell some Chheeborgers.
Cheesborgor, Cheezborgor, Cheezborgor..........
Merit = Pay to Play
Merit=Clout
Merit=Patronage
That's the Definition of Chicago Police Meritorious Promotion. Why do you think so many of these knucklehead Sups. are so DUMB ?
Todd Stroger is Meritorious County Board Comissioner.
To 14th and Komensky: Take a grammar and spelling class.
11:13 PM
I worked with Northside. Our conviction rate on Part I felony arrests had to be well over 90%. He taught me a whole lot.
Sounds like jealousy, John. Check your email.
What's your point, 11:13?
The comment about crime scene taping in the ambulance is right on the money.
The Department is screwed.
Retired ans happy
1/16/2009 10:22:00 PM
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VERY TRUE!!! Then (merit) Sgt., now (merit) Lt. with the initials M.S., did that very thing at Pulaski/Grenshaw about 10 yrs ago or so. Fucking pathetic.
BIG JOKE ALL NAMES LISTED ARE MERIT.
Since when is the burden of proof on us? Why should we have to prove that the money confiscated came from illicit means? Instead of filing for the money and letting the shit heads prove to the court where they got the money from - the dynamic duo Paul and Tony would want the PO's to prove that it came from illicit means and if they couldn't then the shit heads would pick up there money with out a fight.
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The burden of proof has been on us since forever. Its the law when it comes to seizing and forfeiting assets. You might want to read it more closely. And you better read the fourth amendment of the constitution while you're at it. When you take money from someone just to take it and say screw them let them go to court and prove its not illicit - that is called violating their civil rights and committing armed robbery. You should probably be thanking T and P not bashing them. And by the way P used to be the police.
Anyone know anything about Judge James Linn.
If I can use good and judge in the same sentence. He is a good judge.
Anonymous said...
TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY AS YOU APPROACH THE CAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOUR BEING VIDEO TAPED OR RECORDED. SOME OF YOU HAVE REAL BAD ATTITUDES UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU PULLED OVER THE POLICE,,,, FOOD FOR THOUGHT. GO MERIT!!!!!
1/16/2009 09:57:00 PM
Go merit! Is that not what ocd is all about? the phone call?
OCD is full of clout heavy, crybaby political hacks. Does anyone in 189 work more than 6 hours a day?
T.P. says---
Who you calling swarmy?
90 SGT'S Were made so far off the current list. Rumors of Promotions and numbers???
They haven't called for merit submissions for any rank lately, so nothing coming our way.
So called hiring freeze, No P.O.'s to be hired this year??? Anyone hear that one???
We could really use some more P.O.'s and some Sgt's and Detectives.
How many guys will buy their pension time with the portability bill that passed and then retire?
Approx 17K a year, but it could be a nice payoff in the end if you live long enough to enjoy it.
Figure anyone with 15 or over could quickly get to a retirement pension if they are 50 and feel like leaving.
Interesting times we live in!
GO SEE NEW PAX 501: 2009 PROMOTIONS CALL FOR 9 CAPT'S, 40 LT'S, 80, SGT'S, 85 DET'S, 35 D-2 SPOTS...THAT IS ALL..
10:40 PM
Eloquently written, Brother Snethen!
I love it when you wax poetic, Dave.
can't wait to retire said...
I used to think Northside was a crazy, bitter, cranky retiree. I still think he's bitter and cranky, but I now understand why! I'll never boast about being "supercop", but when I see some of the people who are currently wearing white shirts thanks to merit promotions, I am sickened, disgusted and embarrassed.
I truly believe the #1 cause for the complete lack of morale in this department is the politically tainted and nepotism filled merit promotion system.
1/16/2009 07:17:00 AM
Daley has turned the police department into a mirror image of many departments in this city. run by clout and political favoritism. Daley's first big move was eliminating the Civil Service rank of Captain and turning it into an exempt position.
All those wonderful old time Captains people pine over now sold out all the captains who will ever follow them and also the entire police department when they took that $17,000 check and signed away the rights to that civil service position.
That was the beginning of the end. That was a Daley move, at the very heart of how Daley does things. Imagine if those Captains had stood up and told the City to shove their bribe money up their ass.
That is how the city does things with their bribe bonus payments. Captains were forever taken into the clout fold of ball-less hacks. Ok, there are a few decent Captains but when they get that phone call, they all cave to political pressure. Their jobs depend on it.
The Daley Way.
Anonymous said...
TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY AS YOU APPROACH THE CAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOUR BEING VIDEO TAPED OR RECORDED. SOME OF YOU HAVE REAL BAD ATTITUDES UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU PULLED OVER THE POLICE,,,, FOOD FOR THOUGHT. GO MERIT!!!!!
1/16/2009 09:57:00 PM
Relax you little bitch, what are you going to beef about a bad attitude. Go fuck yourself and your phone call.
OFF TOPIC--- Anyone else see a pattern?
Detroit has potholes... we have potholes
Detroit's industry left- our business are leaving
Detroit's Mayor is locked up-- ours is overdue
Detroit's a hockey town-- red is rising (hawks)
Detroit's papers are folding-- so are ours
It's like looking into the future!
1/16/2009 02:06:00 AM
Good (but long) read on Detroit in The Weekly Standard of 29 Dec. Article by Matt Labash at http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000%5C000%5C015%5C945aynyk.asp but if you can get a copy in hand, the photography shows it best.
""From today's PAX 501:
Department’s hiring plan for 2009
In addition to the 200 sworn police officers, the Department has been promised that we will be able to promote nine captains, 40 lieutenants, 80 sergeants and 85 detectives as well as 35 officers at D2 pay.""
And you really believe this?
Read the small print where it says...subject to change...
When has Weis actually did what he said he was going to do when he was going to do it?
You people actually believe him...amazing.
"With the exception of Dugan, who by the way, would never have been promoted if his name was Duganski, Duganello, Duganius, etc, all of the sworn merit board memebers are merit promotees."
Dugan don't you have anything else to do except posting this self promotional bull about yourself all over this blog? It's getting old.
BTW, we all know who REALLY ran...and screwed up...the Taste; hint-it wasn't Cuello or Jackson either.
If the promotions Weis is spouting about are budgeted for 2009 then let's get a copy of the budget and post it for all to see.
Let's see IN WRITING that the department got the green light for these promotions-call your alderman or the finance committee.
Read the small plan...pax 501 said the promotions were PLANNED not scheduled. and subject to modifications.
You can't even get a contract but you can get promotions? What's up with that?
Anonymous said...
TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES
1/16/2009 09:57:00 PM
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Take it easy my friend! If you really want to start a shit storm keep up the attitude with " I'M ON OFFICIAL DUTY " .
We the blue shirted patrol officer are the ones on duty in uniform!
If we stop you for a lawful reason lose the attitude and we will not call your supervisor so we can issue a citation for your disregard for city and state traffic laws , because officer no matter who your clout is they ain't gonna save your ass when I write a ticket so GFY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY AS YOU APPROACH THE CAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOUR BEING VIDEO TAPED OR RECORDED. SOME OF YOU HAVE REAL BAD ATTITUDES UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU PULLED OVER THE POLICE,,,, FOOD FOR THOUGHT. GO MERIT!!!!!
1/16/2009 09:57:00 PM
quit driving like an asshole, you prick!
"TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY AS YOU APPROACH THE CAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOUR BEING VIDEO TAPED OR RECORDED."
RIGHT BACK @ YOU CLOUT CLOWN. YOU'RE BEING TAPED&RECORDED AS WELL & IF YOU DON'T IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS A POLICE OFFICER BE PREPARED TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. YOU'RE A TRAFFIC VIOLATOR, DOES HE KNOW YOU'RE A F'NG SECRET SQUIRREL?
CHECK YOUR SELF ENTITLED ASS BEFORE IT GETS CHECKED PUNK.
Anonymous said...
A common theme I keep seeing is working in a "fast district>" Could somebody please tell me what that actually means. Granted there are places that don't get the amont of calls, make the same amount of arrests, or deal with the clientel as much. But just because a guy has enough senority to bid someplace else doesn't make him any less qualified (given the tests were to be fair-which we know aren't). The animals are mobile, gangs are everywhere, and "crime doesn't take a vacation." It may be "slower" in some districts, but there are still some good coppers working in these districts. Granted they spent their time in the mills, then transferred. But they're still there. Handling more jobs doesn't make you any better a coopper than they. And don't kid yourself. If you had the chance you'll leave too when the time and opportunity presenhts itself.
1/16/2009 11:13:00 AM
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I agree with this JUST because someone works in 003 or 015 or whatever doesn't means they ever did anything EXTRA!
Many I never sa in court or coming in with the felonies!
Answering the radio responding to DUDES issues on the street BIG FUCKING DEAL! Many of you (myself included) avoid them until you HAVE to deal with them! Don't kid yourslef or anyone else that knows better!
Matter of fact try and figure out the dope house out south or north in the decent area.......do a surveillance , get a buy or a C/I and put together a warrant as an AFFIANT then do something legit and make yourself!
Running with the DOGS of the ghetto and acting like the BEAT car gets you promoted and everyone owes you is like saying I mopped the floors in the Office building make me a CEO!!
Off the subject. Anyone know anything about Judge James Linn. He just found 2 Calumet City officers not guilty of battery and official misconduct. Case stemmed from on-duty incident caught on camera. From what I hear the judge ripped the prosecution and totally sided with the officers.
1/16/2009 08:05:00 PM
I allways considered him to be a very liberal judge, he had a sister that was a OPS investigator.
You ocd guys can drive around me however you want. Because if your in the ghetto I wont stop you.
The merit promotions were just a thin veil to continue affirmative action promotions without any lists at all.
I get so tired of the bs statement that merit promotions are synonymous with affirmative action. Minorities rarely benefit from merit. In fact what is it when minorities such as myself are harmed by it. I made Sgt off my test score and would be a Lieutenant if it wasn't for merit. I understand their should be something in place for those that don't test well HOWEVER the process should be transparent and fair, which it has never been. It should be based on your record and not who you know. Yes there are a few merit promotees that are worthy of the merit nod, but they are the minority not the majority.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY AS YOU APPROACH THE CAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOUR BEING VIDEO TAPED OR RECORDED. SOME OF YOU HAVE REAL BAD ATTITUDES UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU PULLED OVER THE POLICE,,,, FOOD FOR THOUGHT. GO MERIT!!!!!
1/16/2009 09:57:00 PM
You fuckin' merit shits are running around our district with your heavily tinted windows and drug dealer cars and expect the working police not to stop you.
fuck you!!
Anonymous said...
The City owes me much money for not considering me for any merit promotions in decades, I have a better work record, medical record, disciplinary record, Arrest and Conviction Record, etc; than at least half of the Merit- Pay - to -Play promotees. I can't wait till my attorney gets done with these City thiefs and gets Subpoenas these Goof-Balls into Fed. Coburt to "explain' just exactly what their Definition of "Meritorious Promotion" is, with applicable examples. Then it will be compared to the Standards of Legit Police Departments Nationwide.
Hoping to Retire Rich
1/16/2009 11:06:00 PM
LET'S MAKE IT A CLASS ACTION: Count me in.
I have also been victimized by the department who tells us to work hard and keep your nose clean to get promoted.
BS, truth be told you need a china-man.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
TO ALL YOU DUMB F*CK COPPERS THAT ARE PULLING OVER THE OCD OFFICERS, WHILE IN THE PERFORMANCE OF THERE OFFICIAL DUTIES, WATCH WHAT YOU SAY AS YOU APPROACH THE CAR BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW IF YOUR BEING VIDEO TAPED OR RECORDED. SOME OF YOU HAVE REAL BAD ATTITUDES UNTIL YOU REALIZE YOU PULLED OVER THE POLICE,,,, FOOD FOR THOUGHT. GO MERIT!!!!!
1/16/2009 09:57:00 PM
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If its a white guy with a beard or a "work" shirt with a name patch then you won't even need to show a badge or I.D. Everyone will know its an OCD assclown looking to lock up a hype selling 1 blow.
Anyone know anything about Judge James Linn.
If I can use good and judge in the same sentence. He is a good judge.
1/17/2009 03:27:00 AM
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Yes a good judge, but..
Generally light on sentencing. He is consistent on this regardless of who the defendant is, what the crime is, or whether or not the case is in the papers. Most of the time that's good, sometimes not, but he seems to apply the rules fairly across the board. If you want a FAIR trial, he is the judge you would want. If you wanted to see a truly evil MF get his comupins, you want someone else.
He found the homeless woman who burned up people in an apartment building in Lincoln Park NOT GUILTY by reason of insanity. She definitely was insane, but he could have found her guilty but mentally ill (meaning she'd go to prison if she ever got better, which she won't). Was he right? Probably.
I also hear he will or was going to hear one of the recent CPD incidents (SOS, Jefferson Tap, or Abbatte I can't remember which).
OT: Anyone hear of a lawsuit involving two coppers that were sued for unlawful arrest? Supposedly, they arresested an individual for DOPW. At court it was determined that there was no evidence to support the charge and subsequently the case was SOL'ed. I guess since they didn't inventory the can of beer, it was thought that they put the case on defendant. Apparently, they were sued, along with the city, and the defendant was awarded money. As a result you now need to inventory can/bottle as eveidence. TRUE OR URBAN LEGEND?
1/16/2009 10:40:00 AM
yep, it's true
1/16/2009 06:41:00 PM
True AND punitive damages for the officers involved.
The defendant's ex-boss testified he was a drunk. He was before and had since been arrested for DOPW. Jury didn't care.
His defense was that he was indeed a drunk, but was not drinking at that exact instant.
And you ask why the city settles?
Remember...No one is more against the police than the citizens in this city. Not the bosses, not the mayor, not the aldermen, not the media. NO ONE hates the police as much as the average citizen (black, white, rich, poor, doesn't matter). Why?
Part media, part movies, part ignorance, part liberal trend, part the fact that they aren't as scared of criminals as they were 15 years ago because no one sticks a gun in their face when they go downtown.
Jackson was the real Police in 004 at the same time Danny Dugan was...truth is, Jackson was the better cop, if I had to choose. But they were both damn good policemen back in their day.
Can't speak for Cuello, but you've got at least two real cops sitting on the Merit Selection Board now.
Sad thing is, Jackson's just a figurehead now. Dugan still may have a set.
Time will tell.
Who's the jaggoff M/2 copper in 189that couldn't heed the pooolices'
orders at 14th and Komensky?
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Is that the guy who just got dumped on a phone order?
NorthSide said...
10:40 PM
Eloquently written, Brother Snethen!
I love it when you wax poetic, Dave.
1/17/2009 10:07:00 AM
Sir, did you ever prepare a large packet/binder of approx. 100 or so pages detailing why you should be merit Lt.????
Maybe I am thinking of the wrong Sgt
Your new superintendent will bever get the support of the rank and file until he cleans up the merit promotion system and makes it transparent. He should also establish some minimum qualifications for exempt appointments,maybe a exam such as New York requires. By the way, I worked with Northside in area 4 years ago, he was a pretty good detective. Considering what he went though with the city and promotions and assignments, he has a right to be called "bitter" if he wants to. I see a lot of bitter comments on this web by young officers. The CPD is a political patronage division of city hall and the press should wake up to it.The pension system is used to reward hacks of the mayor. As Northside stated, " life after CPD is good". Try to make the job better for those that follow you.
IMHO, as far as crook cty. judges go, Jimmy Linn, is one of the more fair ones, former ASA and not a police hater, but you better know your case in front of him.
1/17/2009 10:07:00 AM
Sir, did you ever prepare a large packet/binder of approx. 100 or so pages detailing why you should be merit Lt.????
Maybe I am thinking of the wrong Sgt
1/18/2009 09:25:00 AM
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You have the wrong sergeant, I would rather have a sister in....nevermind! No its not me!
Linn is OK. He is not Pro Police or Pro Defense. He is Fair and open minded. I wish more judges were like him.
1/16/2009 10:41:00 PM
I second that. plus with his bout with cancer he has relaxed
When Snethen was made sgt on merit, I saw a pig fly. I swear for god.
1/16/2009 04:20:00 PM
swat is out there. they have backed me up on stops. in fact they were on the scene providing first aid to the cop that got shot in 14 a month or two back before cfd got there. maybe you dont see them because your too busy hiding from any type of work you might have. do your job and quit complaining you asshole do nothing
Judge Linn was a States Attorney back in the 80's (sheesh, showing my age here). He is neither liberal nor consertive. Just a darn good judge. By the way, what does someone's sister have to do with the price of beans, anyhow?
Sore losers.
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