Tuesday, January 13, 2009

No Money for a Contract...

  • Use of more taxpayer money to finance Mayor Richard Daley's Olympic dream was approved today by a key City Council panel.

    The measure, passed by the Finance Committee and headed for the full Council on Tuesday, is part of a package of city guarantees and agreements required to be included in Chicago's bid, which is due February 12.

    The ordinance commits the city to use an unspecified amount of tax-increment financing dollars to help build the Olympic Village that would house athletes during the 2016 Summer Games.

    It also guarantees that the city will cover the cost of services such as additional police patrols and street cleaning, estimated at about $45 million. And it reaffirms a guarantee of $500 million--originally made in 2007--to cover any operating shortfall for the Games.
Coming up on 19 months with no contract for those of you keeping score at home.

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165 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

$500 million doesn't get you much in this town. Just look at Millenium Park.
Just wait till Markie forgives him some of our pension money as a sign of our support.

1/13/2009 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey let's not forget about the 13.5 million to restore...I mean make look like the 1920's Michigan Ave. bridge project...Yet still no money for a POLICE contract...What a joke this city is!!

1/13/2009 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO NOT GO TO MOBILE STRIKE FORCE!!!

The unit is flawed. There are plenty of officers there that are hard working and bringing in very good arrests, but those making the decisions, (Lt. P.K.), are destroying the morale of the people that are working there. Don't be surprised that in the coming weeks, numerous officers attempt to flee the unit because of treatment from some bosses. Officers are being treated like PPO's and children. The commander needs to step up and reign in his Lt. else the strike force will be destroyed before it really ever got started. As of right now, all officers should truly consider staying where they are or consider a move elsewhere...at least until something changes.

1/13/2009 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where are they going to get those extra police patrols the article mentions? It seems like the CPD is very understaffed and need to have a mass hiring.

And what kind of shit are they talking about when they say that no tax dollars are going to be used for the Olympic bid? Where is the money going to come from?

Shortshanks has to go. I am praying that Chicago gets the Olympics so that they will have a mass hiring. However another part of me is praying that Chicago does not because it will screw this great city completely through the management skills of the city leadership.

God Bless the CPD for putting up with this crap for so long.

1/13/2009 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You talk about the Cpt. in 023 on 3rd watch. I don't work there but remember "1 contact card, 1 TSS, 1 parker is activity. They can't say you didn't do anything. Wake up people!

1/13/2009 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous re-tired s.o.g. said...

Anonymous said...
OT: Thanks to the 008 unit making that street stop at 53/Sayre area last night. Good lookin' out on the old neighborhood. Some of us do care what you do.

**Yes good job all. We appreciate you.

Good job at grabbing the offender for the attempt armed robbery at 54 & Natchez as well.

1/12/2009 10:28:00 AM
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I second that, You GUYS on Beat 0811 are the best. You make me want to put on my old uniform I still have when I retired in 1990 with 33 years on the job.

Mr. COLT is always near me at home.

Bless you all in 008.

1/13/2009 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did we even get the Olympics yet. How do we count chickens before they hatch puck-puck-puck three chickens puckaaaaaaa!

1/13/2009 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Use of more taxpayer money to finance Mayor Richard Daley's Olympic dream



"MORE"??

Didn't he say that he was not going to use taxpayer money?

1/13/2009 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's unlikely the detention facility at the Navy base in Cuba will be closed anytime soon. In an interview last weekend, Obama said it would be "a challenge" to close it even within the first 100 days of his administration.

But the order, which one adviser said could be issued as early as Jan. 20, would start the process of deciding what to do with the estimated 250 al-Qaida and Taliban suspects and potential witnesses who are being held there. Most have not been charged with a crime.
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I hope they have a better conviction rate than Cook County.

1/13/2009 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is our representation? Wait, I know at the desk in some district initiating a CR number on Weis, instead of actively negotiating our contract. We can blame the City, but the FOP shares in the blame for not pressuring the City.
Right now our rank and file are more united then we have ever been, not because of the FOP but because of this Blog. We need to stay together and push the City harder.
We need to back each other up, answer our calls, and do nothing that in any, way, shape, or form brings revenue to the City.
We also need to have an informational picket against the City for not bargaining in good faith. When the Olympic Committee is in Chicago.

1/13/2009 01:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the ad for the best job in the world:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090113/od_afp/lifestyleaustraliatourismoffbeat_20090113032028

1/13/2009 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10 hours days sucks for 3rd watch. 4-2am or 5-3am? Who thought that up? Why not 1-11 or 2-12? Sheesh

1/13/2009 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a surprise!!!

The city cannot recover any of the millions of dollars it pumped into Republic Windows & Doors before the company's sudden shutdown in December that led to a high-profile worker sit-in, the city's top attorney said today.

At least all the illegal aliens working at Republic got paid at taxpayer expense by the Republic of Chicago aka "Illegal Alien Sanctuary".

Welcome to life in the United Socialist States of AmeriKa!

1/13/2009 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta Keep Orange Crush and the boys working and stuffing pockets:


SPRINGFIELD -- House lawmakers today begrudgingly voted to knock a hole in the new pay-to-play ethics law aimed at curbing Gov. Rod Blagojevich's prolific fund-raising because Washington officials threatened to block federal dollars for roads and bridges.

The legislation, sent to the Senate on a 77-35 vote, would exempt transportation projects from the new law that prohibits businesses that have or seek state contracts worth more than $50,000 from donating to statewide officeholders who dole out the business. The fate of the legislation in the Senate is uncertain.

CORRUPTION CONTINUES UNABATED IN ILLINOIS,DON'T BE FOOLED!

1/13/2009 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We sleep safely at night because rough men stand ready to visit violence on those who would harm us."
George Orwell

1/13/2009 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought that no tax payers dollars were going to be used to fund this olympic dream...what a crock!

1/13/2009 02:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic:
When was the last Detective's class made?
When was the last Sgt's class made?
Where are they on these lists? What numbers have they gotten to OFF THE LISTS? Not the merit hacks.
Part of this job is the dream that someday you might actually get promoted. I know some damn good people that scored pretty good on those lists and should have been made by now.
It's good for overall morale when at least the belief of studying and working hard can pay off into getting a promotion.
My best guess would be about 100 off the det list(and i mean off the actual list, no merit), which has been up for about 3 years.
As for sgts, i would guess around 75 off the list and been up for 2 years.
So that means out of a 13,000 person police dep't only 175 blue shirts have been promoted in the last 3 years off the lists (non merit)!!!??
It appears that being a blue shirt really is a dead end position.
Just isn't right.
Really makes you want to go study for these tests and give it your all on the streets huh.

1/13/2009 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city can't have us picketing while the olympic committee is in town in april. The contract will be ready for a vote by then with a 4 year deal, 18% raise with retro and a freeze on medical costs.

1/13/2009 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Village of Oak Lawn, Illinois

The Board of Fire & Police Commissioners is currently seeking qualified applicants for the full-time position of Police Patrol Officer. Experienced Police Officers are encouraged to apply. To review our policy regarding Lateral Transfer Candidates visit our website at: www.oaklawn-il.gov.



Police Patrol Officer candidates will be required to successfully complete a written examination, physical ability test and an oral interview in order to be placed on an eligibility list.

$51,027 STARTING SALARY

$63,758 AFTER ONE YEAR

$75,964 AFTER THREE YEARS!

1/13/2009 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm so sick of everybody including the wacko Chicago reverends screaming more guns laws. How about drawing all that attention to where it should be put - on the reckless piece of shit savage pulling the trigger. Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
1/12/2009 12:31:00 PM

Guns don't kill people, CPS mutts do.

1/13/2009 03:06:00 AM  
Anonymous PAY TO PLAY DALEY said...

Guess who getting the Olympic Security contract?
www.MONTERREYSECURITY.com
2232 S. Blue Island Ave
Owned by former CPD Officer Juan Gayton(HDO) & brother of Ald Danny Solis
They also have CHICAGO BEARS/SOLDIER FIELD CONTRACT!
"Contract Snafu Embarrasses Chicago Mayor."
Byline: Gary Washburn
Jun. 14, 2002--Mayor Richard Daley said Thursday that he is embarrassed by the failure of his administration to block a contract award to a company co-owned by the brother of Ald. Danny Solis (25th) and vowed to fix the system.

Despite what he called bureaucratic finger-pointing at City Hall, Daley said safeguards would be put in place "in a couple of days" to prevent a reoccurrence.

Yeah right. Later his son would be involved in a similar windfall mistake. Is it "a couple of days" yet? That was 2002!

"Byline:Dan Mihalopoulos
Jan 26 2007 --Ald. Daniel Solis (25th) would love to parlay his status as Mayor Richard Daley's highest-ranking Hispanic ally on the City Council into a seat in Congress next year. Solis dreams of serving in a Washington ruled by Hillary Clinton, who counts Solis' sister Patti Solis Doyle among the top advisers to her presidential campaign.

1/13/2009 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When people go to sleep at night they look under their bed for the boogyman. When the boogyman goes to sleep he looks under his bed for Seiser.

1/13/2009 03:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so glad I will be retired and gone from Chicago in 2016 Olympics or not! If we get the Olympics we can expect to be nickled and dimed even more. More taxes like the bottled water tax. I haven't bought a bottle of water in Chicago since that tax was enacted. Indiana gets all of my money!!

1/13/2009 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remind me , How much did Millennium Park go over budget?
Started at $150 million and ended up at $350 ?

http://www.ncbg.org/public_works/millennium_park.htm
Who's going to make up for that deficit?
Fitzgerald should love to see who's pockets get lined with this project.

1/13/2009 06:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So how many parkers are you going to write to cover this one?

1/13/2009 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is the City of Chicago who will soon be feeling time constraints in settling this contract. It is the City who will need soon to get this wrapped up.

Be patient brother and sister officers. We must not be in any hurry to get this settled. Every day that goes by is to our benefit, we are in no hurry. The City soon will be.

Advantage FOP.

Be patient. let it run it's course. Just a little while longer. FOP has the upper hand, it must be played in due time with patience.

1/13/2009 06:57:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

I was reading about Col. von Stauffenberg's courageous attempt to assassinate Hitler in 1944 and alter the course of history.

This morning, I awakened from a dream about OUR fuhrer being carted off to the guillotine in a successful coup d'etat.

Then reality set it with my first sip of coffee.

"SWEET DREAMS ARE MADE OF THIS." - Annie Lennox

1/13/2009 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT but...YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET IT! IF THE CITY AND FOP LIKE IT IT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU! 2 10 HOUR WATCHES JUST ABOUT DOES AWAY WITH THE MIDNIGHT WATCH! LESS PERSONNEL NEEDED! CITY SAVES BIG $$$$$$ AND FOP AND CITY ROLL OVER IN BED AND EMBRACE! GOD, FOR COLLEGE KIDS, YOU ALL SURE IS DUMB!

1/13/2009 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey DUMMIES keep going out and generating revenue for an ungreatful thief.

1/13/2009 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

19 months without a contract
25 months of negotiating with the city working with less officers
answering more calls

1/13/2009 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sneed's Column:

The snow scoop . . .

It's called Mayor Daley's headache.

Consider.

• • Fact: The recent winter weather has left tons of snow throughout the city.

• • Fact: We're in a cold snap, there's a forecast of additional snow and what's unmelted could become concrete.

• • Fact: Isn't that scenario reminiscent of the 1978/'79 winters in Chicago, when large snowfalls in December were followed by even larger snowfalls in January and the city became paralyzed?

• • The big question: Despite the current financial crunch, will Mayor Daley mobilize high lifts and semi-trailers to actually remove and haul the snow from city streets so the '78/'79 winter disaster would not be repeated? Remember when Mayor Jane Byrne was shoveled into office due to a snow crisis?

Very Interesting?

1/13/2009 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please FOP save the articles. There is enough material printed to prove the midget is lying when we go to arbitration.

1/13/2009 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, if only there were something we could do about these TIFs gone wild? If only the taxpayers would do something to say enough is enough on the mayor's slush fund!

Oh! There just happens to be a citizen's lawsuit about it pending in the courts right now. Of course, you never heard of it because none of the papers that are sniffing around for money from the city has reported on it. (Can anyone say Tribune?)

http://www.openillinois.org/policy/policy-brief-time-to-throw-a-tif-invisible-unaccountable-taxes-youve-never-heard-of/

1/13/2009 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
DO NOT GO TO MOBILE STRIKE FORCE!!!

The unit is flawed. There are plenty of officers there that are hard working and bringing in very good arrests, but those making the decisions, (Lt. P.K.), are destroying the morale of the people that are working there. Don't be surprised that in the coming weeks, numerous officers attempt to flee the unit because of treatment from some bosses. Officers are being treated like PPO's and children. The commander needs to step up and reign in his Lt. else the strike force will be destroyed before it really ever got started. As of right now, all officers should truly consider staying where they are or consider a move elsewhere...at least until something changes.

1/13/2009 12:25:00 AM

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Blah, blah, blah.... same old song and dance from MT aka "Purple Shades" Grow a set or go back to where you came from. Isn't it kind of funny that this happens everywhere you go? Did you stop to think that maybe it is you and not everyone else????

1/13/2009 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shortshanks...(daley) wants the contract settled by April. Thats when a package has to be sent to the olympic committee.

No matter what we are offered I am voting NO to the contract just to screw shartshanks.

1/13/2009 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

George says..get my quotes right!! "We sleep safe in our beds knowing that rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who wish us harm"

1/13/2009 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger taking what I'm given said...

Now let's just say prayers are answered and Chicago does not get the Olympics. Where would all that money go to? Would the city and its "leader" say there is no money still?

1/13/2009 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1 parker a night thats it. They can counsel you all they want. Counseling means nothing.

Its only a scare tactic. The most they can do is change your start times. And that shouldnt scare you, it should make you mad as hell.

Dont give them a damn thing. Answer your calls and go home. Vote no to the contract no matter what!

1/13/2009 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

1/13/2009 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and don't forget that 6% the alderscum got. or did they give that "back"

1/13/2009 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Thanks to the 008 unit making that street stop at 53/Sayre area last night. Good lookin' out on the old neighborhood. Some of us do care what you do.

**Yes good job all. We appreciate you.

Good job at grabbing the offender for the attempt armed robbery at 54 & Natchez as well.

Thanks Sgt BS for the comment

1/13/2009 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO NOT GO TO MOBILE STRIKE FORCE!!!

i don't think anybody would go to that suck ass unit anyway unless your a company man suck up OR less then 5 years on.

1/13/2009 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a surprise!!!

The city cannot recover any of the millions of dollars it pumped into Republic Windows & Doors before the company's sudden shutdown in December that led to a high-profile worker sit-in, the city's top attorney said today.

At least all the illegal aliens working at Republic got paid at taxpayer expense by the Republic of Chicago aka "Illegal Alien Sanctuary".

Welcome to life in the United Socialist States of AmeriKa!

Must've been a cronie of shortshanks or some mobster who owned reublic.

Just imagine all the stealing of taxpayer funds will go on for the olympics.

I can see shortshanks drooling.

1/13/2009 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CANT U SEE WE ARE BEING PLAYED!!! FOP IS A JOKE> IT IS LIKETHE MILITARY AWARDS LUNCHEON-JUST A PHOTO OP FOR THE MAYOR BUT NO SUBSTANCE TO IT> IF WE VETS ARE SO GOOD THEN WHY NOT PROMOTION POINTS ON TESTS????STOP DOING POLICE WORK!! IT IS OUR ONLY WAY TO GET OUR PAY-SEMPER FI

1/13/2009 09:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are the rest of the starting times in those 10 hour day districts?

What are Tact hours?

1/13/2009 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is the City of Chicago who will soon be feeling time constraints in settling this contract. It is the City who will need soon to get this wrapped up.

Be patient brother and sister officers. We must not be in any hurry to get this settled. Every day that goes by is to our benefit, we are in no hurry. The City soon will be.

Advantage FOP.

Be patient. let it run it's course. Just a little while longer. FOP has the upper hand, it must be played in due time with patience.

1/13/2009 06:57:00 AM

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Amen. The City will not qualify for the Olympic bid if it has open labor contracts...Especially an open police contract when terrorism is the primary concern for the Olympics.

The dream of Daley's friends plunging into the giant Olympic money pool could all go up in smoke. We are talking about more than one billion dollars.

STALL!

Up until one day before the final presentations, then agree to a 97% raise over three years.

1/13/2009 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here we go...

http://ammunitionaccountability.org/Legislation.htm

1/13/2009 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just threw out my PARKER BOOK...

1/13/2009 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10 hours days sucks for 3rd watch. 4-2am or 5-3am? Who thought that up? Why not 1-11 or 2-12? Sheesh

Because the city wants coverage during the busiest hours, which are 5-330am, you wanted 10hr days deal with it.

1/13/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot
someone mentioned in the conceal carry forumn about mancow. how and where can I listen to him now?

also, no plow went down my street. but the street cleaners and meter maids hammering out tickets have no fudgin' problem coming down my block! i hate this place

#3 thank GOD for this blog. scc deserves a lot of credit for informing the sheeple.

1/13/2009 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right now our rank and file are more united then we have ever been, not because of the FOP but because of this Blog. We need to stay together and push the City harder.

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Are you f___ing kidding me? We are less united and lazier than ever before because of this blog. Have you been to a union meeting lately? That's right, nobody goes. We are not together. We are not united. Stop with the nonsense.

1/13/2009 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Marty aka "Cool Hand Luke" said...

Hey, "Scrambler",

Your old college drinkin' buddy here.

Why read a book when you can see my son-in-law in "Valkyrie" at a theater near you. Just don't pull that "bacon and eggs" stunt again.

I don't appreciate your snide remarks about Scientology. My family and I remain devout Catholics.

Enough of this Toledo winter. We're off to the Riviera 'til St. Paddy's Day. If you're in the 'hood, we're staying in Cannes.

Au revoir!

1/13/2009 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We also need to have an informational picket against the City for not bargaining in good faith. When the Olympic Committee is in Chicago.

1/13/2009 01:28:00 AM

This idea needs to be implemented!
How about it, FOP. Let's stand up and be counted instead of laying down and getting Buttf*cked by Daley! Can't you even pretend you have some balls, MARK!

1/13/2009 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO NOT GO TO MOBILE STRIKE FORCE!!!

No shit.....


Officers are being treated like PPO's and children.

Instead of the 3 year wonders that they are.....

1/13/2009 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"1 contact card, 1 TSS, 1 parker is activity. They can't say you didn't do anything. Wake up people!


Let them say I didn't you didn't do anything, what can they do to you? I answer my calls and thats it.

1/13/2009 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Daley just spent another couple million dollars on the beutification of the Michigan Street Bridge. He put a spin on and said it was mostly to make the bridge safer. Yeesh! What bullshit. More waisted money "again". If he was so concerned about public safety (which we all know he's not), he'd hire the 3,000 officers we're short and lift the hiring freeze because by the end of 2009 we'll be short an additional 800-900 officers. Not to mention paying the officers whats due them who put their lives on the line each and everyday protecting Chicago's citizens. We're at war on the mean streets of Chicago and all the Mayor is worried about is the stupid Olympics not to mention his continual mission: Woo and Aww the public with a false sense of security and keep the smoke n' mirror show going.

1/13/2009 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't give the city any money! One parker is one too many! One contact
card or TSS, written wrong, could be a lawsuit. Activity? Turn in a caps request form to help the Caps office continue business.

1/13/2009 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was watching a program on one of the cable access channels about how the mayor is ripping us off with the TIF tax program. He has it set up where he can actually change the rules with the TIFs. Millenium Park can get the Tif benefits while being across the street from the actual TIF. Just one example of the abuse.

During the program, the people from IVI who presented it, pointed out that the park district has a plan to complete the development of the last 25 miles of Lake Shore Drive. A half billion dollars from the sale of Midway is going to that project. That is really going to help the vast majority of citizens isn't it!!!!!! And still no raise...........

1/13/2009 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
DO NOT GO TO MOBILE STRIKE FORCE!!!

The unit is flawed. There are plenty of officers there that are hard working and bringing in very good arrests, but those making the decisions, (Lt. P.K.), are destroying the morale of the people that are working there. Don't be surprised that in the coming weeks, numerous officers attempt to flee the unit because of treatment from some bosses. Officers are being treated like PPO's and children. The commander needs to step up and reign in his Lt. else the strike force will be destroyed before it really ever got started. As of right now, all officers should truly consider staying where they are or consider a move elsewhere...at least until something changes.

1/13/2009 12:25:00 AM
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Funny thing is I figured these NEW units would be GOOFY with screwball bosses!

I considered Gangs but I want to wait and HEAR the problems of the unit and see who is bailing. I figure that unit will be shit come Summer time! (time off, overtime, deployment, confusion, screwball bosses making dipshit chicken shit decisions).....

I hear Narcotics has some screwball Sgt. too... as well as TRU unit and its bosses.....

WAIT AND SEE that seems to be the theme on looking into a Unit!

1/13/2009 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the Olympic committee is coming in April I believe. Is an informational picket in order?
Well Mark, how 'bout it?

1/13/2009 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

DO NOT GO TO MOBILE STRIKE FORCE!!!

The unit is flawed. There are plenty of officers there that are hard working and bringing in very good arrests, but those making the decisions, (Lt. P.K.), are destroying the morale of the people that are working there. Don't be surprised that in the coming weeks, numerous officers attempt to flee the unit because of treatment from some bosses. Officers are being treated like PPO's and children. The commander needs to step up and reign in his Lt. else the strike force will be destroyed before it really ever got started. As of right now, all officers should truly consider staying where they are or consider a move elsewhere...at least until something changes.

1/13/2009 12:25:00 AM

Details, or are you just a disgruntled employee?

1/13/2009 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's unlikely the detention facility at the Navy base in Cuba will be closed anytime soon. In an interview last weekend, Obama said it would be "a challenge" to close it even within the first 100 days of his administration.

But the order, which one adviser said could be issued as early as Jan. 20, would start the process of deciding what to do with the estimated 250 al-Qaida and Taliban suspects and potential witnesses who are being held there. Most have not been charged with a crime.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

I hope they have a better conviction rate than Cook County.

1/13/2009 01:25:00 AM

Ship them to Cook county and after two days with the animals they will all be singing like parakeets.

1/13/2009 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the ad for the best job in the world:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090113/od_afp/lifestyleaustraliatourismoffbeat_20090113032028

1/13/2009 01:32:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10 hours days sucks for 3rd watch. 4-2am or 5-3am? Who thought that up? Why not 1-11 or 2-12? Sheesh

1/13/2009 01:39:00 AM

And the bitching begins!
Get some time on kid!

1/13/2009 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He doesn't care about Police or Fire. He cares about himself and the legacy he will leave behind (Olympics). Police are a necessary evil of the city and financing it along with it's Grand Puba Leader is a joke in itself.

1/13/2009 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our capt. came into roll call and told us all how much bullshit this blog is and how we shouldnt go on it. Can you believe this asshole we all hate him? Ok boss whatever you say sorry sir. These fucking bosses are so used to the suck holes blowing them they believe they totally control us.

1/13/2009 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the commander of msf reminds me of bert on the tv show soap...

1/13/2009 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone have any knowledge about are expired contract.Rumor has it that the Free Insurance at 55 years old is not going to happen.FOP seems to be very quite.

1/13/2009 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WE WANT 80/20 NOW!!!

1/13/2009 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should be concerned with terrorism in the country. Has the city been relaxed on this issue?

1/13/2009 02:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city can't have us picketing while the olympic committee is in town in april. The contract will be ready for a vote by then with a 4 year deal, 18% raise with retro and a freeze on medical costs.

1/13/2009 02:31:00 AM

You are hereby asked to report to 35th and Michigan to take a piss test. P.S. Leave the bong at home.

1/13/2009 02:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
DO NOT GO TO MOBILE STRIKE FORCE!!!


Ummm, yeah.... most of us were telling YOU that a few months ago. Please don't complain, you were warned.

1/13/2009 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O/T: More problems for Obama administration and he hassn't even been sworn in as president of the United States yet. What are the next 4 years going to look like?

Check out this yahoo link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090113/ap_on_bi_ge/treasury_nominee

1/13/2009 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the anti mobile strike force poster. Stop whining! The "B" company is great. Outstanding LT and SGT'S and P.O'S!

U were hand picked...if you don't like it leave and stop hiding behind SCC.

KEEP IT IN HOUSE!

1/13/2009 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dump DONOHUE and most of his FOP Chronies,ASAP. NO proper representation of the Rank-and-File, just in bed with Daley and City Hall City politics as usual. These fraidy-cats at FOP favor the connected, just like Daley and the Dems at City Hall, and over-use our no-Union Union dues for trips outings, and frolicks around the State and Country. FOP AWARDS and ACOLADES for DONOHUES BUDDIES,and CONNECTED cops, nobody else, and big talk and no Action by the bee-bee-balled bunch on Washington Blvd. The FLOP operates the same as a mini City Hall. They and their chronies get the perks, everyone else just pays, and is a non-existant voice to be ignored by the FLOP bunch. Spring is coming, and so is Picketing Weather. Lets be the First to Picket our own FOP Hall, and City Hall, simultaneously, so the Entire USA sees it on Fox News. Fuck these no-balled City Hall suck-ups. NO FOP REPS attended the 10th Anniversary Benefit for murdered officer Knight, as far as I know, but they're right there in the Politically connected functions in other Cities and States for sure, compliments of my union Dues. I've NEVER been to Washigton D.C; hopefully I can go some day with my friends, but I'll pay for the trip myself, not with someone elses money... FOP = Soft Underbellied-Spineless political suck ups.

1/13/2009 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It appears that being a blue shirt really is a dead end position.
Just isn't right.
Really makes you want to go study for these tests and give it your all on the streets huh.
1/13/2009 02:21:00 AM

At least you came to the right conclusion though...But even if you did get promoted, remember, you would never make it past lower management anyway. Sgt or Lt. only, that's it.

Really is a dead end job for those not connected. So get over it and do your best as a blue shirt. Took me a while to realize this, but it's true.

1/13/2009 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 12:25....What did you think you signed up for? Some kind of urban jungle-jim commando bullshit? Build seniority, bid to a decent place like 019, stay out of trouble, raise a family and retire.

It's a great job if you treat it as such.

1/13/2009 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP does NOT have the upper hand in SHIT. Anyone who believes this b.s. is playing with themselves. What has the City agreed to? NOTHING. WHY? The only thing FOP has the upper hand on is their own B-B Balls.

1/13/2009 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should have specified immediately that we want PROFESSIONAL NEGOTIATOR ATTORNEYS to Handle our Contract negotiations, some Sucessful ones from out of State, that are in no way connected to Daley or the Shitty.

1/13/2009 03:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was at O'Hare Airport the other night and the PA system kept repeating the message about the security color and the necessity not to leave your luggage laying about or else the big bag Chicago Police would come along and confiscate it. But tacked on was the announcement that "Chicago was proud to be in the running for the 2016 Olympic games. It urged people to go to a websice and voice their support for Chicago's bid. I would have gotten the website, but I was busy throwing up in my mouth. Not to mention that the flight I was waiting for was hours overdur, and I had to listed to the damn message about 50 times. I wonder if there is a website where we can vote our unsupport for the Olympic games.

1/13/2009 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is the City of Chicago who will soon be feeling time constraints in settling this contract. It is the City who will need soon to get this wrapped up.

Be patient brother and sister officers. We must not be in any hurry to get this settled. Every day that goes by is to our benefit, we are in no hurry. The City soon will be.

Advantage FOP.

Be patient. let it run it's course. Just a little while longer. FOP has the upper hand, it must be played in due time with patience.

1/13/2009 06:57:00 AM
_________________________________
Truly, what is it that you're sniffing or snorting?

1/13/2009 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In answer to the "snow scoop" comment, Mayor Dickhead will be glad to get some truck a-rolling along the streets again. Another chapter in the "hired truck scandal" is in lthe offing.

1/13/2009 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Pentagon said on Tuesday that 61 former detainees from its military prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.

1/13/2009 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GOD, FOR COLLEGE KIDS, YOU ALL SURE IS DUMB!

1/13/2009 07:54:00 AM

___________________________________

Nice grammar. You're the idiot.

1/13/2009 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess who getting the Olympic Security contract?
www.MONTERREYSECURITY.com
2232 S. Blue Island Ave
Owned by former CPD Officer Juan Gayton(HDO) & brother of Ald Danny Solis

*****************************

IS THIS THE SAME JUAN GAYTAN THAT ONCE WORKED IN 010 AND COMMITTED AN ARMED ROBBERY ON SOME KINGS, WHILE HIS PARTNER WAS A PPO ?!?!?!?!

His ppo partner was fired, GAYTAN was tryed and acquited thans to some stand-up 010 gang officers that had multiple arrests on the gangbangers ?!?!?!

1/13/2009 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you f___ing kidding me? We are less united and lazier than ever before because of this blog. Have you been to a union meeting lately? That's right, nobody goes. We are not together. We are not united. Stop with the nonsense.

1/13/2009 10:39:00 AM

BS They're are plenty of officers and dets that attend the meetings...usually standing room only. You're an a**hole.

1/13/2009 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET IT! IF THE CITY AND FOP LIKE IT IT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU! 2 10 HOUR WATCHES JUST ABOUT DOES AWAY WITH THE MIDNIGHT WATCH! LESS PERSONNEL NEEDED! CITY SAVES BIG $$$$$$ AND FOP AND CITY ROLL OVER IN BED AND EMBRACE! GOD, FOR COLLEGE KIDS, YOU ALL SURE IS DUMB!RE IS DUMB!

1/13/2009 07:54:00 AM

___________________________________

Nice grammar. You're the idiot.

1/13/2009 04:05:00 PM
But what did you think about the conspiracy of what the City and FOP are doing by introducing the 10 hour day? I liken this to the Trojan Horse where everyone is drooling all over this new schedule and the City is wetting their pants inside! Why, because its not good for you! I cannot believe none of you can see through this! 2 shifts, 10 hours each, and bye bye midnights! Change a few starting times, and its done! Now what about that idiot thing....you're worried about grammar and you missed the best part of the joke....

1/13/2009 05:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Missy, the parking guru strikes again...http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1896242

1/13/2009 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CURRENT F.O.P. LEADERSHIP HAS TO GO. NO PROGRESS/NO ANSWERS.

1/13/2009 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

. The contract will be ready for a vote by then with a 4 year deal, 18% raise with retro and a freeze on medical costs.
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18 percent over four years doesn't feed the bull dog. I vote NO.

1/13/2009 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It is the City of Chicago who will soon be feeling time constraints in settling this contract. It is the City who will need soon to get this wrapped up.

Be patient brother and sister officers. We must not be in any hurry to get this settled. Every day that goes by is to our benefit, we are in no hurry. The City soon will be.

Advantage FOP.

Be patient. let it run it's course. Just a little while longer. FOP has the upper hand, it must be played in due time with patience.

1/13/2009 06:57:00 AM
_________________________________
Truly, what is it that you're sniffing or snorting?

1/13/2009 03:34:00 PM


I gave up sniffing and snorting long ago. We will see how the contract goes. If I am wrong, I will be the 1st to write here how wrong I was and then I will get a tube of glue and get back to some serious sniffing.

Just wait and see, now is not the time to be in a rush.

1/13/2009 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
WE WANT 80/20 NOW!!!

1/13/2009 02:03:00 PM
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Go to Advance or J&G the have all the 80/20s that you could ever imagine. Thats the only 80/20 your gettin' junior.

1/13/2009 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are Tact hours?

More time for me and your old lady.

1/13/2009 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the anti mobile strike force poster. Stop whining! The "B" company is great. Outstanding LT and SGT'S and P.O'S!

You mean Mobile Stroke Force!!!!!

1/13/2009 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the anti mobile strike force poster. Stop whining! The "B" company is great. Outstanding LT and SGT'S and P.O'S!

Company "B" is full of a bunch of ass wipes. Company "A" has the real police.

1/13/2009 06:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But the city has money to pay the family of a home invader 2.25 million, We are Doomed

1/13/2009 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Across the country, states and municipalities have lost over 850 Billion dollars in their pension funds. Certain taxing bodies have started a movement to cut back on payments. They are lobbying to make certain percentage of payments to future retirees. In other words, if your pension is 6,000 a month- the taxing body might have the annuity only pay 4200 a month ( 70%)
I think I would worry about this more than a 2,000 dollar retro check.

1/13/2009 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As SCC said, "We expect quite a bit of...'largess' to be winging its way to Chicago and Illinois pocket books shortly...We truly are cynical."

Another writer here -- whose "cynicism" stemmed from having chunks of concrete hurled at his patrol car during the post-election rioting here -- noted that many of the "celebrants" seemed to think that a change in political leadership would somehow materially benefit them -- more largess to be received absent any effort of their own.

As the officer brushed the glass from his hair, he mordantly observed that, despite all the commotion, "Obama ain't gonna give Joe shit."

This is not "cynicism," but realism based upon observable fact. The cynics are those who exploit the poor and ignorant for their own political ends and financial gain-- marshalling them in cohorts, decking them out in matching T-shirts and ball caps, busing them around in convoys, equipping them with pre-printed signs to wave, and leading them in simple, easy-to-follow chants. There is also a constant undertone of potential violence.

It is starting to look like the 2016 Olympics is a "done deal" -- the "local activists" are tacitly pointing to this army of theirs, waiting just offstage, as a threat to get what they want.

"When international officials tour Chicago in April, just about the last thing Olympics boosters want them to encounter is community protests.

"With that political reality in mind, local activists are pushing while their clout is greatest to ensure that minorities and poor residents benefit if Chicago wins its bid for the 2016 Summer Games.

"Ald. Toni Preckwinkle (4th) said Thursday she plans to introduce an ordinance at next week's City Council meeting calling for expanded minority contracting requirements and affordable housing goals for Olympic projects...

"Protests are possible in April if an ordinance isn't approved. But 'it's leverage we hope we won't have to use,' she said."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news
/local/chi-city-olympics-minority
-contrjan09,0,3711904.story

Here come the "set-asides" that always seem to go to an endless series of ginned-up in-the-shadows "consulting firms." Here come the immense cost overruns, here come the screw-ups to be fixed at the last minute at great expense -- and here come the huge plums for the "developers," who always seem to wiggle out of "requirements" on some technicality or other.

86 million dollars to buy the Michael Reese site -- then, of course, "tax-increment financing dollars to help build the Olympic Village that would house athletes during the 2016 Summer Games...(and) guarantees that the city will cover the cost of services such as additional police patrols and street cleaning, estimated at about $45 million...(and) a guarantee of $500 million...to cover any operating shortfall for the Games." In fact, officials say that it's going to cost us at least 2 billion -- two thousand million -- dollars.

http://danielhonigman.com/
chicago-2016-update-chicago-
olympics-price-tag-estimated
-at-2-billion/

Millions of dollars will be made, but not hundreds of dollars. Remember police tasked to chase off the vendors at the Bud Billiken Parade and the Grant Park Obama rally? It'll be the same thing here -- no unlicensed "Maxwell Street Polish" carts that might embarrass the Mayor and sicken a foreign visitor.

As with the election, so too with the 2016 Games. The simple fact is that "The Olympics ain't gonna give Joe shit" -- beyond a fresh new "protest" T-shirt for the TV cameras, that is.

That means the the guy with the hot dog wagon, that means you, that means me, that means everyone who doesn't lunch at the City Club...get behind the yellow tape, shut up, and pay.

1/13/2009 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Despite the current financial crunch, will Mayor Daley mobilize high lifts and semi-trailers to actually remove and haul the snow from city streets so the '78/'79 winter disaster would not be repeated?"

--1/13/2009 08:10:00 AM

Sure he will! How could the City of Chicago possibly miss the opportunity to have another "Hired Truck Scandal?"

1/13/2009 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

1/13/2009 09:03:00 AM


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BullShit! Wayne give it a rest. Do us all a favor and take that leave and go to Iraq.

1/13/2009 08:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so if the olympics comes to it's senses and says fuck chicago - will we get our rightly deserved supersized raised ala the aldermanic raises ?? hell no ... the cash will most likely go to daleys pals. ass hole !

1/13/2009 08:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone wants 20 and out. Well guess what, in 10 years there will be no pension fund. When the fund reports at the end of year, look at the figures, 10 years at most.
Do you really think the politicians are going to hit the taxpayers for us?

1/13/2009 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you keep voting for the same ass hats in the union, then you deserve everything you get. A real union boss would have taken this to arbitration a year ago and taken this city to the cleaners. But since donahoe was reelected by you jackass's you get what you deserve. 2% raises and a pension that isn't funded. Congrats you Tools!

1/13/2009 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The City Council today spent 3 hours voting and passing a resolution to seat Roland Burris to the US Senate.

Won't plow the streets. Won't give us a fair contract.

But they can spen how many 10s of thousands voting on a worthless resolution for Burris.

Is this what we are paying our Aldermen and Mayor for???

Time to IMPEACH DALEY!!!

1/13/2009 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
GOD, FOR COLLEGE KIDS, YOU ALL SURE IS DUMB!

1/13/2009 07:54:00 AM
___________________________________

Nice grammar. You're the idiot.

1/13/2009 04:05:00 PM

I might be wrong, but I think that poster was making an attempt at humor by deliberately using poor grammar in that last line. I find the idiot who uses "Shitcago" and "Crook County" in redundant attempts at cleverness much more idiotic.

1/13/2009 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least you came to the right conclusion though...But even if you did get promoted, remember, you would never make it past lower management anyway. Sgt or Lt. only, that's it.

Really is a dead end job for those not connected. So get over it and do your best as a blue shirt. Took me a while to realize this, but it's true.

1/13/2009 03:15:00 PM

After several tests you will soon realize that clout is alive in promotions. Nothing wrong with job as a blue shirt. Bid to a slow district, answer your calls and go home. If you are smart, return to school and get a degree.

1/13/2009 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

No chance in hell the city owes us a lot more than that. We are owed 5-6k or more right now in retro. Vote NO on any bullshit like that.

1/13/2009 09:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To the anti mobile strike force poster. Stop whining! The "B" company is great. Outstanding LT and SGT'S and P.O'S!

"B" company??? What a fucking tool. What regimant are you in soldier? I want to be in EZ-company like in the show Band of Brothers. Hopefully some day you can pass a promotional test and be a brigade commander in MSF.

TRU and MSF is a complete joke, have fun in your "B" company you dorks, you aren't in the military and 3/4's of you would last a day in the armed services!!! Just a bunch of 2 year wonders.

1/13/2009 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aw9HrY21Ynno&refer=worldwide

HOW R WE DOING?

1/13/2009 10:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please FOP save the articles. There is enough material printed to prove the midget is lying when we go to arbitration.

** I agree that SOMEONE should be documenting what the mayor spending so that when he cries poor they can call BS!!!
I also saw something on the news today about hybrid cars for certain departments? Streets & San??? Not sure.. caught the tail end of it. How much do the "go green" cars cost?

1/13/2009 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well , there's goes another $2.5 mil to a HOME INVADER who was shot by an off duty PO . What a waste of fuckin' money . Only four Aldercreatures voted NOT to give this bastard's family the money . There goes the raise or part of it anyway. Daley and his merry men do it again

1/13/2009 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because the city wants coverage during the busiest hours, which are 5-330am, you wanted 10hr days deal with it.

1/13/2009 10:24:00 AM

___________________________________

I would be willing to bet my house that there are a lot more calls for service at 3 in the afternoon than 3 in the morning. A lot of trouble starts with high school dismissals. Except for the summer hours and some weekends there's really not much going on after midnight most places, even in Shitcago.

You really can't justify those hours.

1/13/2009 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for the whiners who haven't got promoted yet. The city is too cheap to draw up another test for a long time. Your chance will come.
Isn't this dept. still a little top heavy. Are we short supervisors? I haven't noticed. Less indians means less chiefs. Gee I don't see those detectives really killing themselves either, they don't seem to be overburdened.

1/13/2009 10:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Revolt and rebel. We are the real police. It's my money and I want it now.

1/13/2009 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Shortshanks...(daley) wants the contract settled by April. Thats when a package has to be sent to the olympic committee.

No matter what we are offered I am voting NO to the contract just to screw shartshanks.

1/13/2009 08:53:00 AM

4% retro for the first year or nothin'. Be strong brothers.

1/14/2009 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Guess who getting the Olympic Security contract?
www.MONTERREYSECURITY.com
2232 S. Blue Island Ave
Owned by former CPD Officer Juan Gayton(HDO) & brother of Ald Danny Solis

*****************************

IS THIS THE SAME JUAN GAYTAN THAT ONCE WORKED IN 010 AND COMMITTED AN ARMED ROBBERY ON SOME KINGS, WHILE HIS PARTNER WAS A PPO ?!?!?!?!

His ppo partner was fired, GAYTAN was tryed and acquited thanks to some stand-up 010 gang officers that had multiple arrests on the gangbangers ?!?!?!

1/13/2009 04:47:00 PM

Yep he's the one.
In the early 90's he spent months at call-back crying about his innocence.

1/14/2009 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To the anti mobile strike force poster. Stop whining! The "B" company is great. Outstanding LT and SGT'S and P.O'S!

"B" company??? What a fucking tool. What regimant are you in soldier? I want to be in EZ-company like in the show Band of Brothers. Hopefully some day you can pass a promotional test and be a brigade commander in MSF.

TRU and MSF is a complete joke, have fun in your "B" company you dorks, you aren't in the military and 3/4's of you would last a day in the armed services!!! Just a bunch of 2 year wonders.

1/13/2009 10:11:00 PM

Haha "truE dat!"

1/14/2009 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mobile Stroke Force.....I like it. hahahahahahaahahahahahaahahahahahahahaah

1/14/2009 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would be willing to bet my house that there are a lot more calls for service at 3 in the afternoon than 3 in the morning. A lot of trouble starts with high school dismissals. Except for the summer hours and some weekends there's really not much going on after midnight most places, even in Shitcago.

You really can't justify those hours.

1/13/2009 10:48:00 PM

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You want bank hours? Work at a bank. Want to make your own hours? Get a livery license.
Jesus, stop with the fucking whinning already. Hint: It is not all about you.

1/14/2009 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous westside, inside do-nothing said...

Anonymous said...
Across the country, states and municipalities have lost over 850 Billion dollars in their pension funds. Certain taxing bodies have started a movement to cut back on payments. They are lobbying to make certain percentage of payments to future retirees. In other words, if your pension is 6,000 a month- the taxing body might have the annuity only pay 4200 a month ( 70%)
I think I would worry about this more than a 2,000 dollar retro check.

1/13/2009 07:00:00 PM

******************************

FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY!!!!

Someone out there in retro-check-land is getting a clue! Please infuse your knowledge in your co-workers that can't wait to run out and get a plasma TV, build that new deck or install that new pool this summer. This problem is the proverbial "tip of the iceberg". Wake up, sheeple!

1/14/2009 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard Canada will be getting the winter Olympics and Mexico will be getting the summer Olympics. We will be getting the Gold Metal for most HOMICIDES hahahaha, a Silver Medal for most AGG BATTS, and a bronze, for most ROBBERIES.

1/14/2009 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would be willing to bet my house that there are a lot more calls for service at 3 in the afternoon than 3 in the morning. A lot of trouble starts with high school dismissals. Except for the summer hours and some weekends there's really not much going on after midnight most places, even in Shitcago.

You really can't justify those hours.

You obviously have never worked west or south, where the party goes on all night long.....

1/14/2009 01:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right now our rank and file are more united then we have ever been, not because of the FOP but because of this Blog. We need to stay together and push the City harder.

*********************************

Are you f___ing kidding me? We are less united and lazier than ever before because of this blog. Have you been to a union meeting lately? That's right, nobody goes. We are not together. We are not united. Stop with the nonsense.

1/13/2009 10:39:00 AM
Spoken like a true slick sleeve.

1/14/2009 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't know anything about the Commander of the MSF but he wears his hat like a tool, cocked to one side. Sure according to some he may be super cop, but if your going to wear the hat, wear it correctly. ESPECIALLY when you having the lt's and sgt's do uniform inspection everyday. Lead by example don't be another sheep.

1/14/2009 02:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And another thing, didn't short shit agree to 2 million to cover the cost of police manpower at Obana's rally? When it really cost 3 million? What was that some kind of discount to fellow colleague?

There is no way 45 million is enough for police and street cleaning. Not when you're talking security for 24 hours per day for almost 3 weeks covering many locations throughout the city.

You know they're gonna put det's in suits 24 hours per day in all the hotels. Then you still got the olympic residential villages, the sporting events arenas, the millions of out of town visitors, the local criminals shopping amongst the visitors - and who's gonna be watching the rest of the city?

And why the hell are we tossed in the same barrel with street cleaning? Freudian slip, mayor?

1/14/2009 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

msf so far is not bad at all. so far all boss's have been more than fair. training is becoming consistant. so stop hating u salty mo fo's

1/14/2009 04:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:52am post
I am perfectly happy where I am. I will not be one of the officers asking to to leave this unit. MSF has it's flaws, but it is a brand new unit. It takes time...especially when it is being built from the ground up. You have me mistaken with someone else? I am an alternate in the Company led by LT Kane. I have absolutely no problem with the way he is running the show. For that matter, I have no problem with how Company B is being ran either. I fully respect both styles of leadership. Being a former military commander for many years in Special Operations...and a combat veteran of war...I understand the policies on accountability and leadership.
Everywhere I go huh? Ask any police officer wherever I worked (009, S.O.S, 006) if I didn't give my all out there to make sure they got home to their loved ones? Ask them if I didn't ensure they were properly addressed when out on the street too? You obviously have an issue with me friend. In your attempt to villify me, you show you are the one who has no intestinal fortitude.
I do not care if you try to slander my good name, because that is what cowards like you are best at. I will continue to outshine your best efforts by just being a decent cop. Keep thinking you have all the answers there Supercop. I'll continue to kick ass and take names.
If you are jealous because I was accepted into MSF, then why don't you submit a resume? Problem solved.
Coppers know when I write something on SCC, because unlike you, I sign my name to my post without fear of retaliation. They also alert me when spineless pukes like you write something about me on SCC. I'm talking City-wide there friend. How's your CPD network there? What's your excuse?

Martin E. Tully aka "Purple Shades"
MSF-Co.A

1/14/2009 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Martin E. Tully aka "Purple Shades"
MSF-Co.A

1/14/2009 07:28:00 AM

I don't know you, but I have ALOT of respect for you.

1/14/2009 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have waited this long for our contract, we can wait a little longer. The pendulum is swinging slowly in favor of the FOP as far as time constraints for negotiating.

The onus will soon be on the city to get it done quickly. Now is NOT the time for the FOP to push hard for a quick settlement. Due to several upcoming dates for action in the 2016 Olympic host city selection process it will be incumbent on the City of Chicago to wrap up the labor contracts with the police union etc.

The FOP is doing exactly the right thing, they are letting the City run out of time. Soon it will be the City that will be saying "let's get this done fast."

Then the FOP will have their advantage, then the City will be in a hurry to settle. Believe that and hang in there. A few more months won't matter much to us but they sure will to the City because Shortshanks wants this Olympic bid badly.

We will get a reasonable contract by summer I am guessing. Then the City will have all it's ducks in a row to make the final push for the 2016 Olympics.

By reasonable we should expect no more than 3% yearly over the life of the contract, an alternate work schedule with more days off each year and possibly but not for sure retiree health insurance at age 55.

Remember this, the City cannot go into the summer with this contract still open, not if they still want the Olympics. Time is on our side now. Relax and stay safe.

1/14/2009 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who says they don't have a problem with teh way Lt(PK) is running the unit is a fool. This guy doesn't have your back and is only there to hopefully get a promotion out of it. IT shows in how he is running his half of the unit. HE is a spineless, scared shitless leader who doesn't want to take any heat from the higher ups.

If P.O's would have heard his speech on New Years Eve they would have went bizerko. "Not everyone with a gun is a bad guy an New Years Eve. Just ecause someone is drunk and wants to fire off rounds into the air doesn't mean they are a dangerous criminal! " WTF OVER! "We don't want to be known as the Mobile Assasination Force"

That speech put a ton of his officers in jepordy had they adheared to that. Nothing like putting any doubt whatsoever in P.O.s minds right before they hit the street. Those with very little time on the street may have hesitatted a split second after hearing that.

LT PK is out for only himself and that is the sad fact. It is a damn shame as this unit has a great potential. The Commander is top notch. HE IS THER FOR THE P.O.'s THAT WORK FOR HIM. He is truly a good boss and others should take after him. He has a lot in store for the unit and has some great visions. Things under him have moved rapidly. More than any other boss I have ever worked for. He has been straight up on his word from Day 1. He tells it like it is. If he can't get it donme he will tell you.

The LT on the other hand is scared of his own shadow and is going to get someone hurt. As long as he is there things will continue to be held up. He is not a leader and it shows in his roll calls. No speaking skills whatsoever. He has already left P.O's in the dark. And as long as here is there you can count on never seeing the workouts on the clock like promised at the interviews. He is opposed to them 100%, but yet they want you to pass the power test 3 times a year and wear all this specialized gear.
He obviously has never done any kind of specialized training in those haz-mat suits or carrying any type of gear. All this training they want to give us takes its toll on your body.

Some of the SGT's are what are holding the unit together. Most still look out for their people and knmow what it takes to have a team operate smoothly. Yt the LT is all over them. Thank the good heavens the SGt's still run their teams otherwise the unit wuld have half teh bodies it has. PK would have ran over half of them out with his no balls lack of leadership. HEY LT TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING YOU LOOK LIKE A HERO!

1/14/2009 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't hurt him Tull...He don't know? He's probably one of us!!!

1/14/2009 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It appears to me that,Even the Feds are Corrupted. If one Journalist can uncover this stuff, where are the countless Agents of the Feds who are paid with OUR Tax Dollars who are supposed to be keeping tabs on crime and corruption? What a bunch of Incompetent, College-Educated IDIOTS. Couldn't find Sand at a Beach.

1/14/2009 12:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One other thing: the FOP allowing the 2 hour adjustment rule to every watch will really end the need for three watches! You start at 5am, well now you start at 3am! You start at 10pm, now you start at 12am ,work until 10am! Oh boy, is the city gonna have some fun! Click your heels Dorothy and repeat after me, there's no shift like the past.....

1/14/2009 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey let's not forget about the 13.5 million to restore...I mean make look like the 1920's Michigan Ave. bridge project...Yet still no money for a POLICE contract...What a joke this city is!!

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quit being so bitter...its only 3.5 million..i hate daley as much as the rest of us but get your numbers straight as*

1/14/2009 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen. The City will not qualify for the Olympic bid if it has open labor contracts...Especially an open police contract when terrorism is the primary concern for the Olympics.

The dream of Daley's friends plunging into the giant Olympic money pool could all go up in smoke. We are talking about more than one billion dollars.

STALL!

Up until one day before the final presentations, then agree to a 97% raise over three years.

1/13/2009 09:52:00 AM
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Just WHO is feeding you this bogus information? The city certainly CAN get the Olympics with an open labor contract, particularly when the labor contract is with an entity (that would be CPD) that is barred BY LAW from going on strike.

The Olympic committee couldn't give two cents' concern over how much money we make or what our benefits are. Their only concern is that we are barred from striking and therefore we will be out there, serving and protecting, no matter what.

Get off your dream-cloud. Our contract is of ZERO concern to the Olympics and that's why Daley doesn't give a damn when it's settled.

1/14/2009 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

No chance in hell the city owes us a lot more than that. We are owed 5-6k or more right now in retro. Vote NO on any bullshit like that.

1/13/2009 09:38:00 PM
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I take it math was not your strong suit. A 2 percent raise for someone making the max of 80k comes to 2400 over a year and a half. Add in the duty available and other bonus money and, unless you have a whole lot of overtime, you are not going to get to 5 or 6 k. If you think you will get more than 2 percent for the first year or so of the new contract, you really are dreaming. These contracts are alwalys heavily back loaded for that very reason.

1/14/2009 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought NO TAXPAYER MONEY was to fund the Olympics. This was out of Daley's mouth. Liar and thief.

1/14/2009 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I thought NO TAXPAYER MONEY was to fund the Olympics. This was out of Daley's mouth. Liar and thief.

1/14/2009 06:31:00 PM


Are you new in town?

1/14/2009 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

Does not sound too bad that is about what we would have gotten anyway. Factor in OT and some may have made more and some less but it all evens out.

1/14/2009 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
One other thing: the FOP allowing the 2 hour adjustment rule to every watch will really end the need for three watches! You start at 5am, well now you start at 3am! You start at 10pm, now you start at 12am ,work until 10am! Oh boy, is the city gonna have some fun! Click your heels Dorothy and repeat after me, there's no shift like the past.....

1/14/2009 03:03:00 PM


What do you mean "the FOP allowed..."??

That has been in the contract since the beginning. Management can adjust start times two hours each way.

We have more use of seniority etc. than most other police departments, certainly way more than NYPD. When someone publishes NYPD's salary and says "Hey, why don't we get that?" remember that in NYPD you cannot bid to other districts/units or precincts. Transfers are 100% at the whim of management.

Also, no 75% pensions, they get 50%, period. The pension only goes up if their salary goes up. That's why PO's get out after 20. They stay only if they make boss or detective or, god forbid, really love the job. However, overtime and some other payments are pensionable. That is why in an officer's last year in NYPD, they give the retiring guy the courtesy of shoving OT their way to build up the pension.

Any NYPD officer reading who can clarify/confirm/deny?

1/14/2009 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

I'm a unit rep, I called about this today to FOP, they would not deny it. Seems they are leaning in this direction.

1/14/2009 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT but...YOU PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET IT! IF THE CITY AND FOP LIKE IT IT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOU! 2 10 HOUR WATCHES JUST ABOUT DOES AWAY WITH THE MIDNIGHT WATCH! LESS PERSONNEL..............


if this was true,they would have done it a long time ago

1/14/2009 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You want bank hours? Work at a bank. Want to make your own hours? Get a livery license.
Jesus, stop with the fucking whinning already. Hint: It is not all about you.

1/14/2009 12:35:00 AM

Yer head is up your ass. That's what an asshat is for that clown who didn't like use of that word a few months back.

No the hours don't make sense ...but I don't work them. Youv'e basically just created 2 midnight shifts and eliminated afternoons.

If it makes sense it generally does not apply to this city or this department.

Input from the members on starting times would be a brilliant idea asshat, this is a democracy shortshanks is running, isn't it really not.

Hint: GFY

1/14/2009 09:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should have specified immediately that we want PROFESSIONAL NEGOTIATOR ATTORNEYS to Handle our Contract negotiations, some Sucessful ones from out of State, that are in no way connected to Daley or the Shitty.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Oh, shut up. The shakey a-hole that Donahue promised to fire is a pro negotiator. Just ask him. Sour grapes.

1/14/2009 10:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My point being is that this 2 hour adjustment will be exactly what the Dept needs to make two watches. Less manpower and even more bizarre staring times.

1/14/2009 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

Does not sound too bad that is about what we would have gotten anyway. Factor in OT and some may have made more and some less but it all evens out.

1/14/2009 07:34:00 PM

Are you kidding me? IT IS BAD!! And yeah, you're right....some stand to make more.....LIKE THE FEW THAT ACTUALLY CARRY THIS DEPARTMENT AND HAVE FOR YEARS! While others(that havent done a fucking thing since their warm ass hit a chair in the station the day they got outta the academy) get the same as lets say........they men and women working in the usual fast districts....SORRY BUDDY NO FUCKING WAY. Its not right.....PERIOD!All for one one for all it up your asses if you agree with a flat $3K per guy.

1/14/2009 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I take it math was not your strong suit. A 2 percent raise for someone making the max of 80k comes to 2400 over a year and a half. Add in the duty available and other bonus money and, unless you have a whole lot of overtime, you are not going to get to 5 or 6 k. If you think you will get more than 2 percent for the first year or so of the new contract, you really are dreaming. These contracts are alwalys heavily back loaded for that very reason.

1/14/2009 05:44:00 PM

And I take it not having a brain or common sense is your strong suit either! There are guys/gals out there making more than the basic you stroke whether it be self initiated arrests or forced arrests due to the area they work in. Factor court o/t, late arrest o/t, late job o/t and walla! So yeah, the average 14th district, 1st district midnite guy, or 19th district copper isnt gonna get shit. So why fuck the coppers out there working?

1/14/2009 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is this $3,000 after taxes or are we going to get pennies on the dollar after they tax the shit out of it? I say fuck that give us the retro.

1/14/2009 11:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Screw mayor dick and his economic crisis. I am not the one who caused the economic crisis. I am the one working for the city and unhappily giving all my money back to the city. I deserve a damn big raise.

Ask him and the aldermen if they took any free furlough days yet? F them, be men and fight for what's right. Get that high increase on the front.

1/15/2009 03:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got served by Tully!!!

006 Mids

1/15/2009 06:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Worked with Tully in 006...He's a different animal. He WILL speak his mind and then back it up. No joke! Let me just say thank God he's on the good guys side. If you've ever seen him on the street after a scuffle you'd understand. Wish he were still here too.

3rd watch

1/15/2009 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of the SGT's are what are holding the unit together. Most still look out for their people and knmow what it takes to have a team operate smoothly. Yt the LT is all over them. Thank the good heavens the SGt's still run their teams otherwise the unit wuld have half teh bodies it has. PK would have ran over half of them out with his no balls lack of leadership. HEY LT TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE MAKING YOU LOOK LIKE A HERO!

1/14/2009 10:58:00 AM
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First of all, you spell like crap. That being said, if you hate it there so much, the openings for bid are being posted tomorrow.

1/15/2009 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the person(8:52AM)trying to get under MT's skin...Are you fucking insane???

1/15/2009 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone who says they don't have a problem with teh way Lt(PK) is running the unit is a fool. This guy doesn't have your back and is only there to hopefully get a promotion out of it. IT shows in how he is running his half of the unit. HE is a spineless, scared shitless leader who doesn't want to take any heat from the higher ups.
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

We noticed that about him in 015.

He was always trying to make himself looked bogged down with paperwork there...totally disorganized in his PAPERSHUFFFLING! Get a damn file cabinet and properly put shit away and that can eliminate some stress!

Take a training class on office management.....I forgot we don't train people on what they ACTUALLY NEED around here!

Keep watching the cameras in the ghettos PK something is bound to happen of course without anyone in the vicinity to deal with it.

The ghettos aren't the 018th district where you were an aggressive young copper.... big difference so get a clue!

Co. A

1/15/2009 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I take it math was not your strong suit. A 2 percent raise for someone making the max of 80k comes to 2400 over a year and a half. Add in the duty available and other bonus money and, unless you have a whole lot of overtime, you are not going to get to 5 or 6 k. If you think you will get more than 2 percent for the first year or so of the new contract, you really are dreaming. These contracts are alwalys heavily back loaded for that very reason.

1/14/2009 05:44:00 PM

And I take it not having a brain or common sense is your strong suit either! There are guys/gals out there making more than the basic you stroke whether it be self initiated arrests or forced arrests due to the area they work in. Factor court o/t, late arrest o/t, late job o/t and walla! So yeah, the average 14th district, 1st district midnite guy, or 19th district copper isnt gonna get shit. So why fuck the coppers out there working?

1/14/2009 11:55:00 PM

I don't know, maaybe reading wasn't one of your strong points either. Read my post again, carefully this time, and before you lose it again consider that I used the maximum salary, which occurs after 30 years, AND I stated that unless one has a great deal of OT, even at that max rate, one would be hardpressed to get to much over 3000 or 3500. I suspect that A) there are not that many arond with over 30 or even 25 years on, and B) those that have that much time are not doing a lot of OT work.

My only point is that a 3000 dollar settlement might be realistic for most. Also remember, if any of this is true in the first place, that appears to be the city's starting offer.

I really wasn't looking to get insulted or to start an argument, I merely wanted to present the reality of the situation.

1/15/2009 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

really wasn't looking to get insulted or to start an argument, I merely wanted to present the reality of the situation.

1/15/2009 05:11:00 PM

The reality is you're a dumbass for bring it up and supporting the idea. What did you expect when you posted it? An overwhelming show of support?

1/16/2009 02:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
FOP looking at signing bonus of 3,000 per officer, this would be instead of retro for the 1st 18 months.

Does not sound too bad that is about what we would have gotten anyway. Factor in OT and some may have made more and some less but it all evens out.

1/14/2009 07:34:00 PM


No it doesn't unless it is permanent yearly payment and pensionable. Otherwise it is a fuck job.

1/16/2009 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
10 hours days sucks for 3rd watch. 4-2am or 5-3am? Who thought that up? Why not 1-11 or 2-12? Sheesh

1/13/2009 01:39:00 AM


I have enough seniority to get days so in keeping with the self centered CPD way of doing things now, I don't care.

10 hour days, that will translate into a 7 hour work day, one hour more than they get now. More days off. Very good. Any time away from work is very good.

1/16/2009 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't know anything about the Commander of the MSF but he wears his hat like a tool, cocked to one side. Sure according to some he may be super cop, but if your going to wear the hat, wear it correctly. ...

I HEARD HE DID 3 TOURS OF DUTY, HOW MANY DID YOU DO? NOW YOU GO TELL A HERO HOW TO WEAR HIS HAT STUPID!!! AND MAYBE HE CAN TELL YOU HOW TO BE THE POLICE, YOU ARE A MORON.

1/17/2009 03:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Luv it Tully! Two things thought...if you weren't the infamous "Purple Shades", then YOU wouldn't have the City-wide recognition you claim to have. Truth is, You're a nobody. And two, PK really sucks balls as MSF Lt! Shit, you came from 006...WHATEVER yo!!!

-Company A Ranger

1/17/2009 06:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny how "Company A Ranger" can talk shit about MSF's T-man on an annonymous blog? I would be willing to bet my life that the same "Company A Ranger" would truly think twice about talking shit to T-man to his face...Tully...no offense...is waaaaaaaaay too intense!!! What is his deal??? He need to learn how to smile and laugh at life.

1/18/2009 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice response Tully. Since when did you become a company man?
Never knew you to be an ass kisser?

-009 po

1/18/2009 07:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey P.K why dont u and ur a#$kissers go back to 15 where u belong before u really f-up a unit that has better potentional than u ever will......

1/19/2009 03:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 8:52 why don't you grow a set and let "Purple Shades" know who you are? You talk real tough telling him what to do annonymously, but you and everyone else on here know that you just don't mess with that bull's horns.
-011 po
Stay strong Mart!

1/19/2009 06:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Combat Tully! You're wild and crazy days as "Purple Shades" are over dude!!! As is DONE. You are no longer the asskicker you were. Killing you right? You never knew when to relax and play it cool. Gung-ho military types like you crack my ass up. Where'd you're military service get you? Desk duty??? YOU on a desk...that's funny.
When you ask yourself how could this have happened?...remember we told you going to MSF was a bad idea. You'll never learn Combat.

-former 153

1/20/2009 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mart, it is a crying shame that a CRUSHER like you is now sitting on a desk. You were always the guy I enjoyed seeing when I came in to work. I knew that at least one cop would be at my side if shit went South? Nobody could match your intensity out on the street. People thought you were out of control, but they also liked seeing you show up on their calls.
I know you read this blog, so I'm just going to say that I hope you can return to doing what you do best, being an asskicking monster!
If MSF don't want you, then come back to 3-11 in 009. Please!

-009 dist

1/22/2009 11:01:00 AM  

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