Paying for Snow Removal
Um, how about a little of that "creative financing" Daley is so hell bent on?
One day after reversing snow removal cutbacks that turned Chicago side streets into skating rinks, Mayor Daley refused to say how he would pay for the increased overtime.
But, the mayor hinted strongly Wednesday that he wants Teamsters Union Local 726 to follow the Laborer's Union's lead. Laborer's Local 1001 has agreed to a four-day-a-week, ten-hour workday to reduce overtime and help the city fill more potholes.
Yesterday, Daley was all willing to circumvent State and Federal law regarding grants and matching funds to get a piece of the pie Obama is setting up after the inauguration. Today he can't reveal how cutbacks are going to become dollars for plowing? Has he completely lost his mind?
Labels: city politics, corruption
posted by SCC at 9:07 AM
71 Comments:
Has anyone ever gave thought to police joining the teamsters?
Would it hurt or help?
I know that the "union" we have now has absolutely no leverage, it just makes a little sense to put it to a vote in order to help us in our constant contract problems.
I worked in the teamsters prior to becoming the police, the dues werent outrageous and we had better choices in health care.
Any one see the in the Suntimes wed. When the mayor said he's going to go around the state to get his money because ,he feels the state going to bullshit with the city money. And he states "why should the state collect intrest on my money when I have plans for that money". Well now u knows how it feels! You do this to us every 4 years hold are money collect intrest on it.
Why can't this jag put his ego aside and tell the olympic committee that "in these tough economic times, I cannot justify spending the amount needed to land the 2016 games" and pull chicago from the running. I guess that would require a mayor with true leadership skills instead of a mayor with only corruption skills.
This guy is great at "finding money" what a great treasure hunter! Maybe patrick Fitz could expose all the money he has hidden! On another note read todays suntimes,article about a daley friend marchese just getting everything for nothing,and how much did he stuff into daleys envelopes?
Shortshanks wants to add a fee onto our Water and Sewer Bill for garbage collection.
So why not another fee for Snow Control. Next there will be a fee for Air Quality Control, and Sunrise and Sunset Maintenance.
The only way anybody should work a ten hour day is if you are compensated at time and one-half for every hour after eight.
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City anybody who pushed for them is going to be sorry when they have to work them.
how about the mayor puts city trade workers in a day off group and shift work like the police officers . policemen work weekends , nights for straight time. just a suggestion
I wish Daley would hint that CPD go to 10 hour day, I and many others would accept immediately.
Amazingly, in the municipality where I live, the snow gets plowed every time it snows and it gets salted where neded, and the garbage gets picked up.
Yet none of the vehicles involved is owned by a government entity, and none of the people driving the vehicles works for a government entity.
maybe Chicago could find a partial answer in such an arrangement.
Channel 5. News at 10 pm had a piece about Daley spending money on putting GPS on the plow truck! I thought it was already on them.
scc - daley can not lose his mind. he doesn't have one.
What a crook, and now he is president:
President-elect Barack Obama took big money from a man at the center of a federal probe that has forced one of Obama's top Cabinet picks to withdraw.
Financial records show the Obama campaign got more than $30,000 from California financier David Rubin, the target of an investigation into donations and possible "pay-to-play" deals involving New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Obama's pick for commerce secretary.
Embattled Executive David Rubin Gave Thousands to Campaign
By JUSTIN ROOD
Jan. 6, 2009—
ott: I reguards to what someone else has posted previously. I do want to thank the po's from 016. I had made a call in reguards to shitheads on the block in the middle of the night a few weeks back. Not only did 3 cars show up but in a a timely matter. in a district as big as 016, I say THANK YOU!!
Thank you so much Dickhead for having my street plowed. Can I bend over and kiss the ring now? 5800 in taxes and i feel like I have to beg this little miserable fuckwad to have my street plowed and salted. Gotta go get the kids from school (private), cause god knows we can't send our kids to your public school system. How the Fuck does Arne get promoted to the cabinet for running the most fucked up school system in the nation? I feel better now!
Can someone tell me how in the hell you miss a deadline for 153 million handout from the federal government for rapid transit? Or have the arrogance and audacity to ask for or assume you will be granted an extension?
If it was me giving out the 153 million I'd tell them to fuck off too. Who thumbs their nose at that kind of money? Oh, I forgot, King Richard and Huberman.
Gee, I guess Huberman was so busy trying to get his pretend police pension and raise taxes, he just didn't have any time to claim that money for the citizens of Chicago.
Daley's into the 09 budget. That's the only reason he says money is now no object. Wait until the end of 09.
I'll tell you...my neighborhood has a 20 dollar a year fund that we pay into to guarantee that our snow is removed. T private contractors come through and do all the streets every snowfall. By the time the city comes through its clean. 20 bucks a year to ensure a safe passge? hardly an inconvenience. Try it..Its just a suggestion. I am sure this one has been going on long before I moved in.
yes he has completely lost his mind scc:
from yahoo page BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter
Mayor Daley said today he helped move one of Chicago’s oldest homeless shelters from a “decrepit” facility in Greektown to a state-of-the-art building in Lawndale to help the shelter — not longtime mayoral pal Michael Marchese.
Although the deal cost Chicago taxpayers at least $13.5 million and paved the way for Marchese to build 212 luxury condominiums, Daley insisted there was “NO FAVORITISM WHATSOEVER.”
This is why they must salt the streets:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCV5yGKWjv4
give me 10 hour days...i only wish that the fop the strong hint from the rank and file that we would like 10 hour days!!!!
THATS IT DAMN IT .............SELL THE BEAN!
Pawn that silver BEAN and melt it down to scrap!
Maybe one of those Mexican Junker Trunks can haul it away to a scrap yard for a cool sawbuck!
Millenium Park sucks!!!
Beautify this !!!
picardi for mayor in 2011
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PAYROLL DEDUCTION ERROR 01/08/09
Many members may have noticed that the Health Insurance Deduction was listed in the After Tax Deductions portion instead of the Before Tax Deduction portion of their most recent pay check. While this deduction was printed in the incorrect area, the actual calculations were performed with the Health Insurance Deduction as a Before Tax amount. Finance is aware of the problem and has assured the Lodge that the problem will be corrected.
I have to say, I'm already pissed off. It took just one snowfall for me to see the ridiculous saltpiles of previous years.
What a friggin' waste. I wish this blog among many others could've complained in a measured way. What was needed was a little more effort, not the boondoggle of 1980-2007.
Instead, you've justified the ridiculous Chicago snow-removal fetish (and resultant enormous waste of money) for all time. We'll never get out from under this.
related but somewhat off topic-
check out CNN Sat at 2 pm and Sun at 3 pm for the documentary I.O.U.S.A. regarding our country's deficit-it's history and where we are now. It was released in August of 2008- before the shit hit the fan-and gives a clearer picture of what's really happening. If you care about our country-your kids or your grandkids- please check this out!
"Has he completely lost his mind?"
Hardly.
daley adheres to the following rules:
1) If telling the truth HELPS you, tell the truth. (however rarely this is true for an incumbent)
2) If telling the truth HURTS you, tell a lie, particularly a lie that you are confident is impossible to prove is a lie.
3) When lying, coat your lies with as much truth as possible, so the lie APPEARS to be true.
4) Remember that history has proven that there is no such thing as too big a lie; in fact, the bigger and bolder the lie, the less likely it is that the lie will be challenged by anyone but the most honest, and then, you can apply the next rule of thumb.
5) When confronted with your lies, vigorously assert that you're NOT lying and accuse those who say you are, of LYING.
6) avoid lying about things that can be PROVEN to be lies, tho, you can ALWAYS challenge the honesty of those who present the proof of your lies.
7) Do your very best to keep track of your lies, so you don't waste energy lying when you are confronted with conflicting lies.
8) Whenever possible, always have OTHERS lie for you, so you can denounce them, if and when they are caught lying.
9) When caught in a lie, change the subject and focus on telling those lies that have, so far, not been proven to be lies.
10) Tell the truth sparingly, as, if the truth were helpful to you, you wouldn't have to tell so many lies in the first place.
11) When in doubt, say nothing, even if you have to speak many words which, essentially, mean nothing.
12) Save your best lies for the days leading up to an election, as, after you are reelected, you can, for a period of time, get away with telling your less plausible lies.
13) When submitting to questions from the media, try to mostly permit those media creatures you know are bought and paid for whores to ask the questions.
14) Never submit yourself to being questioned by anyone in the media who you know to be honest. Ever.
daley knows that the only potential vulnerability any elected politician ever faces is on election day. And that, once elected/reelected, the opinions of the electorate are essentially meaningless, at least until about a year or less before the next election.
Unlike his father, who was once quoted as saying 'Good government is good politics', little richard finds it to his liking to dwell solely on giving the false impression of 'good governing', rather than try to actually govern well.
It's been working, for him, for years now, so why would he think there's a need to change strategies?
He can save money by getting rid of all the alderscum & J-Fed, that should help somewhat!
how about our retro and salary increase(s)!
It cost 2.5X to buy roof over our head (house, etc.) and to live in a decent neighborhood in Chicago!
As compared to 2004, the year when I bought my last house for $140,000at that time the neighborhood was decent, now, after the housing bubble, it cost me 2.5X more to relocate into another decent neighborhood
Da Mayor is accountable for the cost difference so lets stick to our guns and demand what is due to us!
Hell, everyone else does the same..Republic Windows... the Union stood by their employees who got their retro check
now its time for many other reasons for us to unite and demand that we get whats owe to us!
OT but someone asked about losing one's city pension if convicted of a felony. But if you're a senator...
Posted on Wednesday, 10.29.08 Recommend
Crime and punishment for Ted Stevens, et al
OUR OPINION: Conviction should be grounds to kick a senator out of office
America doesn't have royalty, but being a U.S. senator and getting a boatload of perks comes pretty close. The Senate's 100 millionaires have excellent healthcare and retirement plans, exclusive gyms, franking privileges, guaranteed pay, a doctor on call, free parking in the Capitol and airport freebies that most people can only dream about, just to name a few.
The perks don't include failing to disclose $250,000 in gifts from friends, which is what Alaska Sen. Ted Stevens has been convicted of doing. For his transgression, which is a felony, Sen. Stevens should be sent to jail -- just like any other criminal. Yet even as a convicted felon, Sen. Stevens still is entitled to his perks, including a generous pension that can be collected from a prison cell. Even still, there is one perk that should be taken from Sen. Stevens and any other senator convicted of a crime -- the right to continue serving in the U.S. Senate and to have a hand in crafting America's laws.
A crooked senator
A senator can be expelled from office by a two-thirds vote of his Senate colleagues, but a convicted senator does not automatically lose his seat. That's just plain wrong. In the wake of Sen. Stevens' conviction, this is one thing that even a rabidly partisan Congress should be able to agree on: No crooks allowed. If you do the crime, you should lose the privilege of making laws for the rest of us.
Who cares what he circumvents or how much money he makes doing it, as long as my street is plowed I could give a shit.
Any one see the in the Suntimes wed. When the mayor said he's going to go around the state to get his money because ,he feels the state going to bullshit with the city money. And he states "why should the state collect intrest on my money when I have plans for that money". Well now u knows how it feels! You do this to us every 4 years hold are money collect intrest on it.
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Yeah, SCC covered it two days ago. Thanks for keeping up.
I have to say, I'm really excited about this upcoming storm. It's going to be a very long drawn out snowstorm. Some models have us getting 8-12" some models have us getting 4-8" Either way, it's going to be interesting to see how the city handles this one.
"MY THEORY ON FEDS IS THAT THEY ARE LIKE MUSHROOMS...FEED EM SHIT AND KEEP EM IN THE DARK!!"
SNOW BLOWS...AND SO DOES THIS DEPARTMENT
from yahoo page BY FRAN SPIELMAN City Hall Reporter
Mayor Daley said today he helped move one of Chicago’s oldest homeless shelters from a “decrepit” facility in Greektown to a state-of-the-art building in Lawndale to help the shelter — not longtime mayoral pal Michael Marchese.
another developer strikes it rich with Richie. Just like his Bridgeport buddy developers. I wonder if he'll stop being friends with Marchese just as he did with Oscar DeAngelo from Taylor St. The media is getting a little too close for comfort Mr. Daley.
Why can't this jag put his ego aside and tell the olympic committee that "in these tough economic times, I cannot justify spending the amount needed to land the 2016 games" and pull chicago from the running. I guess that would require a mayor with true leadership skills instead of a mayor with only corruption skills.
Because politicians just do NOT think. They're only concern is what makes them look good.
Like the PPD, I feel for you all.
An oldie, but my fave:
Q: How can you tell when a politican is lying?
A: His lips are moving!
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Am I the only one who has yet to get my FOP book??
Called them, they said they were all mailed right after thanksgiving.....Said come on down, they'd hook me up. While that is nice; for $400 in dues a year, and 18 months without a contract, perhaps they could send a replacement via insured mail??
What the %*%& am I paying $400 a year for, to come on down because they can't get their %&%t right??
any truth to the rumor that the department helicopter is out of commission. I heard that had to make a emergency landing and was damaged in the process and no money for repairs. I know I haven't seen it flying around in awhile, anyone else seen it?
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City...
Three day weekends; 20 percent fewer drives to and from work. Doesn't sound too horrible.
Maybe he is going to have the CPS staff sell coffee and latte's to the childrenz with their new coffee machines.
All proceeds go to snow command.
By the way, does Patrick Daley have a stake in the coffee machine company?
I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for snow removal you do today.
SCC,
What about the City of Chicago and the CTA missing the deadline for the $134,000,000 Federal grant?
We are allegedly broke but we can piss away 134 million dollars for free???
Time to vote every incumbent out of office.
Can anyone please give me info. on a unit 501 that is writing parkers in 016.
I think this is how Prick Daley is paying for snow removal, Rot in HELL Daley!!!!!!
The only way anybody should work a ten hour day is if you are compensated at time and one-half for every hour after eight.
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City anybody who pushed for them is going to be sorry when they have to work them.
Speak for yourself.....Thank god this jagoff is only one vote.
off the topic I want to know who parks in the police lot at 17 th & federal
any truth to the rumor that the department helicopter is out of commission. I heard that had to make a emergency landing and was damaged in the process and no money for repairs. I know I haven't seen it flying around in awhile, anyone else seen it?
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Been on Zone 10 twice in the past 7 days. They're up and running
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Am I the only one who has yet to get my FOP book??
Called them, they said they were all mailed right after thanksgiving.....Said come on down, they'd hook me up. While that is nice; for $400 in dues a year, and 18 months without a contract, perhaps they could send a replacement via insured mail??
What the %*%& am I paying $400 a year for, to come on down because they can't get their %&%t right??
1/08/2009 08:51:00 PM
I just got mine on Tuesday, give it time I guess...
I heard anothe teamsternightmare story again today
No way
Anonymous said...
Ten hour days are a bad idea and they only benefit the City...
Hey man, don't knock it until you try it. Fuck the work 4 off 2. Fuck the 9 hour schedule. The 10 hour rotating schedule is the best I've ever worked.
work 4 off 3
work 4 off 3
work 4 off 3
work 4 off 4
work 4 off 4
work 4 off 4
work 4 off 4
3 4 day weekends in a row without using any add'l comp time. the extra 2 hours a day isn't really that bad and you have so much more free time. I'd work this schedule for my whole career if they would let me.
add 1 simple day onto your weekend and it's like you have little mini vacations all year long!
off the topic but how come those computer genius downtown havent corrected the problem on the arrest reports when you click on the RD option it gives you a red error message before ever giving you a chance to fill in the next box? or how about linking the evidence/inventory to the arrest report so we don't have to list all of them in the narrative portion? the search options especially regarding the charges needs a lot of attention too. a lot more key words need to be added and corrected.
Anonymous said...
Has anyone ever gave thought to police joining the teamsters?
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No ... it's never come up before.
ehhhh... 10 hour day?
ok marky do-not-do & shortshanks, then how about an hour for lunch?
*empty flamin hots bag blowing in the wind*
...what you say?
*a rat scurrying*
...huh? can't hear you.
*a dog barking in the distance*
...speak up! you practicing your mime act?
*crickets*
...ahh! i see, just rolled out the bunk bed with shortshanks er, "auditioning" for a do nothing job after the membership rides you out on a rail? ok, well go ahead & help him get his clothes on then... both of ya look like ya dress in the fuckin' dark anyway.
Can someone tell me how in the hell you miss a deadline for 153 million handout from the federal government for rapid transit? Or have the arrogance and audacity to ask for or assume you will be granted an extension?
If it was me giving out the 153 million I'd tell them to fuck off too. Who thumbs their nose at that kind of money? Oh, I forgot, King Richard and Huberman.
Gee, I guess Huberman was so busy trying to get his pretend police pension and raise taxes, he just didn't have any time to claim that money for the citizens of Chicago.
1/08/2009 02:02:00 PM
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Perhaps Huberman's legal counsel should get on the ball? Then again, she wasn't big on doing things the right way when she was here on the CPD, either.
I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for snow removal you do today.
1/08/2009 09:31:00 PM
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Sadly, you're showing your age. And by getting the joke, I'm showing mine, too!
Can anyone please give me info. on a unit 501 that is writing parkers in 016.
I think this is how Prick Daley is paying for snow removal, Rot in HELL Daley!!!!!!
1/08/2009 11:04:00 PM
They're writing tickets daily looking any reason to write one. they wrote my sister while visiting for no city sticker, too bad she lives out of city and doesnt need one. Why arent they on the west side writing them daily too.
Can anyone please give me info. on a unit 501 that is writing parkers in 016.
I think this is how Prick Daley is paying for snow removal, Rot in HELL Daley!!!!!!
1/08/2009 11:04:00 PM
I stopped a guy a couple years ago who had several parker books in his car. Brought him into the station and confirmed his story with IAD (they have a list of all companies doing business with the city). He is employed by a private company that the city hires to write parkers.
Am I the only one who has yet to get my FOP book??
Called them, they said they were all mailed right after thanksgiving.....Said come on down, they'd hook me up. While that is nice; for $400 in dues a year, and 18 months without a contract, perhaps they could send a replacement via insured mail??
What the %*%& am I paying $400 a year for, to come on down because they can't get their %&%t right??
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Fact is, some anti-police postal workers recognize them and some of the workers throw them away. That is what is really going on. I worked for the post office, i know.
Anonymous said...
Can anyone please give me info. on a unit 501 that is writing parkers in 016.
I think this is how Prick Daley is paying for snow removal, Rot in HELL Daley!!!!!!
1/08/2009 11:04:00 PM
They're writing tickets daily looking any reason to write one. they wrote my sister while visiting for no city sticker, too bad she lives out of city and doesnt need one. Why arent they on the west side writing them daily too.
1/09/2009 02:14:00 AM
Yes that was the unit former city clerk asshole jimmy laski set up with all his political pals in it! The phone number is 312-744-8590 ask for investigations, and the big ticket writer making 90K donald zochowski, never on the west side always in 008 and 016 and 022! waht a waste they pay the revenue people shit but there are 12+ of this guys making 60K+ to write parkers! what a country!
Anonymous said...
off the topic I want to know who parks in the police lot at 17 th & federal
1/08/2009 11:22:00 PM
let me guess?You?
Is this unit 501 that is writing tickets dept. of rev.,private company, and what do they drive? I would like to have a face to face ecounter with one of these motherfuckers.
Can anyone please give me info. on a unit 501 that is writing parkers in 016.
I think this is how Prick Daley is paying for snow removal, Rot in HELL Daley!!!!!!
1/08/2009 11:04:00 PM
Is that Department of Revenue? If so, they look for FOP stickers/medallions/hatbands.
Actually, I'd write anyone with a hatband on their mirror too...
I'll gladly pay you tomorrow for snow removal you do today.
1/08/2009 09:31:00 PM
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Sadly, you're showing your age. And by getting the joke, I'm showing mine, too!
1/09/2009 12:49:00 AM
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Don't feel too bad. I'm in my 20's and I get the joke.
"Why arent they on the west side writing them daily too.
1/09/2009 02:14:00 AM"
Because they'd find the ticket writer in the alley ablaze in a Mogadishu easy chair.(Car Tires)
12:35, yes, it has come up b4. In the late 80's, the teamsters did try to get in and were voted down by the membership of FOP. another union, which I can't recall, also was in the running, as i recall FOP won by a large margin.
Muncipal worker unions will face the same issues that auto workers union will face shortly - their employers can no longer afford the pay packages and benefits and pensions. Chicago police and fire union wages still out strip the great majority of wages paid to Chicago residents, outstripping even many white-collar professionals with graduate degrees and 60-hour work weeks with no job security. The work world has changed dramatically in the last two decades, and the next changes will occur in the governmental sector because the muncipal, state, and federal budgets can no longer absorb the annual budget increases for pension and insurance costs while revenue declines and taxpayers begin to revolt. As far as Chicago goes, every abandoned building is a loss in tax revenue, every foreclosure is at least a delay in tax revenue. Look at Detroit; much of its tax base is gone, period. Large areas of Chicago's south and west-side face the same tax base destruction.
Real wages have declined over the past two decades for all but the top 5% of wage-earners.
10 hour days are great.. Or keep bitching and work 6 on 2 off. Either way your just going to complain.
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Anonymous said...
12:35, yes, it has come up b4. In the late 80's, the teamsters did try to get in and were voted down by the membership of FOP. another union, which I can't recall, also was in the running, as i recall FOP won by a large margin.
1/09/2009 12:23:00 PM
The Teamsters held informational meetings trying to organize the Police in 74 or 75. The Reps. they sent, mind you they were trying to organize the POLICE, looked, talked and acted (from the "do's", unbuttoned silk shirts, diamond pinky rings-yyou name it, looked and talked like the were straight out of the Sopranos!!
I believe the organization the original poster was refering to (after the teamsters) was known as the "Paper workers" union. (can't think of their actual name!!)
Say what you will about the FOP but the "old timers" will tell you things in the dept. were one hell of a lot worse before FOP took over, especially with BS disipline, telephone transfers-NOT REQUESTED, you just happened to piss off a boss or some other silly bullshit. Day's off for the most minor infracions,SUDDEN D.O.G. group changes, especially if your weekends were coming up UNLESS you were one of the suck asses on and on.NOBODY TO COMPLAIN TO OR TAKE YOUR SIDE!! Be thankfull
Signed SOMEONE WHO WAS THERE AND REMEMBERS
"Don't feel too bad. I'm in my 20's and I get the joke.
1/09/2009 09:33:00 AM"
So, what's the original quote and where is it from?
So, what's the original quote and where is it from?
1/09/2009 11:11:00 PM
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Wimpy is Popeye's friend. In the cartoons he mainly plays the role of the "straight man" to Popeye's outbursts and wild antics. Wimpy is very intelligent, and well educated, but very lazy and gluttonous. Wimpy is also something of a scam artist and (especially in the newspaper cartoons) can be shockingly underhanded at times.
Wimpy loves to eat hamburgers, and is usually seen with one (e.g. in "Popeye the Sailor Meets Sindbad the Sailor," where he eats burgers almost the entire time) but is usually too cheap to pay for them. A recurring joke is
Wimpy's attempts to con other patrons of the diner into buying him his lunch. Wimpy often tries to outwit fellow patrons with his convoluted logic. His famous line, which was first introduced to the cartoons in the 1934 cartoon We Aim to Please, is "I'd gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today". (from Wikipedia)
1/09/2009 04:44:00 PM
with daley at the helm driving business, out I can see why the 2 tier pension is being propsed! News from the hall shows that if you ahve less than 10 years you will get an ira, no more pension, all the money YOU put in will be deposited into ira for you! Guess the young guys with college screwed up by not being more attentive to their studies and now this! Welcome the shitcago way of doing business1
I was watching a program on one of the cable access channels about how the mayor is ripping us off with the TIFF tax program. He has it set up where he can actually change the rules with the TIFFs. Millenium Park can get the Tiff benefits while being across the street from the actual TIFF. Just one example of the abuse.
During the program, the people from IVI who presented it, pointed out that the park district has a plan to complete the development of the last 25 miles of Lake Shore Drive. A half billion dollars from the sale of Midway is going to that project. That is really going to help the vast majority of citizens isn't it!!!!!! And still no raise...........
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