Gun Insurance?
- Rep. Kenneth Dunkin has legislation in the rules committee requiring that FOID holders go and get $1,000,000 of liability insurance if they own a hand-gun or rifle.
- I'm sure this is just the first volley in the new war against gun ownership in this country. If they cannot do away with guns, they will make owning them prohibitively expensive. Isn't it fun living in a quasi-totalitarian country?
Here's something a sharp-eyed reader pointed out that isn't mentioned:
- Kenneth Duncan (5th District):
Committee assignments: Appropriations-Higher Education; Financial Institutions; Insurance; International Trade & Commerce; Juvenile Justice Reform (Vice-Chairperson).
Gee, a Illinois Representative in charge of the Insurance Committee recommending a bill that would required thousands of people to purchase...insurance! Things that make you go "Hmm..."
We seem to recall some past US Supreme Court decision or Federal Statute that says you cannot make people pay for what is a Right enshrined in the Constitution. Rights are not things to be made unattainable by Legislatures imposing fees on them. Witness the Poll Taxes that used to be imposed by various Southern jurisdictions to deny certain people the opportunity to vote.
We seem to recall some past US Supreme Court decision or Federal Statute that says you cannot make people pay for what is a Right enshrined in the Constitution. Rights are not things to be made unattainable by Legislatures imposing fees on them. Witness the Poll Taxes that used to be imposed by various Southern jurisdictions to deny certain people the opportunity to vote.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
54 Comments:
Hey Duncan, bite my Second Amendment you crooked, power grabbing scumbag.......
He's just following along with the rest of the corrupt politicians in Illinois. He is just one of the many reasons why Illinois is a JOKE! The media won't report the conflict of interest because they are against the rights of the honest working man. I have yet to lock someone up that had a FOID card, so this will only punish the honest Illinois resident. You see you dumb fuck politician the criminal doesn't care about laws so all you are doing is taxing the honest man! Business as usual and why Illinois may be the worst state in the nation!
Time for a fuckin' revolt, people.
Insure THIS, you scamming mother fucker!
Well, the congressional push to register guns is what worries me. The anti-gun lobby has already laid the groundwork for this sweeping bill to curtail our 2nd Amendment Rights, all they have been waiting for is the "right time" to push it through.
And now it seems their wait is over. Depending upon how much coverage today's news story, of an 11y/o suspected of murdering his father's pregnant fiancee... It may give enough "juice" to get the registration act pushed through.
It's a pure tragedy that happened, but rest assured that some anti-gunner is going to try to take advantage of it.
Gun ownership must be made prohibitively expensive by the "Wealth Redistributors".
None of these left-wing Pols really care about "urban crime", "our children, our future", or any of this other non-sense. As Rahm Emanuel said, "Never let a crisis go to waste".
The drive to eliminate gun ownership is aimed squarely at productive citizens of all races, creeds, and colors who may object someday to wealth confiscation.
A collapsing economy is going to bring a real shit storm with it. Buy ammo today!
oh wow a scam in illinois....who wouldda thunk it.
Start digging up dirt on your local officials and publicize it if they dont play ball on civil rights issues.Time to end the BS.
If you buy your insurance from the Daley crime cartel you can carry any gun you can lift. Background checks will not be necessary.
It would be interesting to look at Duncan's D-2 campaign disclosure forms and see how much money he received from insurance companies.
Well, a quick search shows he gets a lot of money (relatively speaking) from banks and insurance companies. Hmm, go figure.
http://www.elections.il.gov/CampaignDisclosure/CommitteeList.aspx
Duncan is just a member of the Insurance Committee, not a chair or vice-chair, so I don't know where you get this "in charge" thing. And someone on that committee would be expected to be one to put forth legislation involving insurance. That's logical, since members of that committee are SUPPOSED to be more informed on insurance issues. You're barking up the wrong tree with that whole line of logic.
Regardless, the bill does seem like it may be unconstitutional.
Representative Kenneth Dunkin (D)
5th District YOU ARE A MORON
You also want a photo and a thumb print, HELLO ITS CALLED A CB PHOTO WHEN YOU GET CAUGHT WITH A GUN and still doesnt help.
And I"m sure the insurance lobbyists have paid for many trips to Hawaii, cruises, or heavy-duty "goody bags" to take home.
Once again, Illinois politics...all of them are one step away from federal prison or at least a grand jury investigation.
"Mr Perkins" (former CPD, seriously) who runs the neighborHOOD party mansion at 47th and Michigan Ave claims that State Rep Ken Dunkin helped him get MILLION$ in Illinois state funds to renovate the place. Strange bedfellows, eh? The mansion is notorious for underage drinking parties and shots fired calls on weekends. Near riot broke out on the Feb 21st. Sigh...
"... from the Soul Coast to the Gold Coast", Ken?
Once again, the hens watching the hen house.
Insurance for what? To protect myself?
Fuuuuuuuuuuck YOU.
Now consider the extent of the moral and political inversion in today’s prevalent view of government. Instead of being a protector of man’s rights, the government is becoming their most dangerous violator; instead of guarding freedom, the government is establishing slavery; instead of protecting men from the initiators of physical force, the government is initiating physical force and coercion in any manner and issue it pleases; instead of serving as the instrument of objectivity in human relationships, the government is creating a deadly, subterranean reign of uncertainty and fear, by means of nonobjective laws whose interpretation is left to the arbitrary decisions of random bureaucrats; instead of protecting men from injury by whim, the government is arrogating to itself the power of unlimited whim—so that we are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.
Ayn Rand"The Nature of Government", December 1963
Go Santelli !!! Chicago Tea Party
http://www.officialchicagoteaparty.com/
He's from Illinois.
He's a democrat.
Who runs the democratic party in Illinois?
How many people in the clan that heads the Democratic party in Illinois sell insurance????
He can't lose.
Little by little, bit by bit, it will become an impossibility for a working, one income, tax-paying, law-abiding citizen such as myself to LEGALLY own a firearm.
It just becomes more infuriating on a daily basis!!
Support of the NRA is more important NOW, than ever before in the history of this country.
We will all suffer for the acts of the gang banging scum of this country. This liberal administration is going to restrict the rights of gun owners nationwide. They will villify the law abiding American by banning all types of guns, of course I am certain beyond any doubt that when they ban guns, the gang bangers will abide and turn in theirs just like yuo and I will have to. We will end up just like the UK...an unarmed public at the whim of an armed criminal society. violent crimed, home invasions and murders will sky rocket.
Where the hell is this great NRA that I just joined. Actually it's the second time I joined it. They did not do much here the first time. I joined it the seciond time because of this new supreme court ruling.
That is right, usually the gun toting gang bangers have an FOID. After all, it is the 2nd Amendment loving citizens that are committing all the crimes. (sarcasm in case the trolls don't pick up on it).
Good Comments SCC !!!!
Duncan you can blow me. I will ignore your insurance scam just like I ignore that short little cock sucking mayors Registration. Come and get 'em if you would like to try.
And all this comes when the US Supreme Court has just affirmed the Second amendment as fully constitutional.
What the Gun-Grabbers are doing is trying to bypass the ballot box and shove their agenda down our throats.
(Thanks for the Link Love, SCC)
Let these jagoffs try to pass this, it will be overturned in court and we can then say kiss my ass to shortshanks, father flacky, the other sanctimonious pieces of shit reverends. They are shitting in their pants because they can't control what happens downstate. It's called second amendment rights. This tool of a politician is only throwing shit on the wall to see if it sticks, kind of like what the inside of his house is coated with.
WARNING: Talk about gerrymandering boundaries... This asshole Dunkin's 5th District is a corridor along State Street all the way from North Ave. to 64th Street.
Also, for those of you that live on the Gold Coast, Near North and in Lincoln Park south of Armitage Ave., you are "represented" in the U.S. Congress by none other than (are you ready?) DANNY K. DAVIS.
WTF!!! Talk about taxation without representation. Who the fuck makes up these boundaries?
One would think that in this era of Illinois politics that the polititians would NOT have their minds on stealing money. With all of the editorials and opinions written in the Trib and Times and the scandals running wild in Illinois that the polititians would try to avoid more scandals. But they just can't keep their theiving greasy paws off of our money. Hasn't the insurance industry and the lawerying industry taken enough hits from Illinis polititions. Jays Potato Chips says "just can's stop eating them". In Illinois the motto should be "just can't stop stealing".
With less than 2 yrs for before our chance to replace some of these liberal assholes in the US Congress and Illinois Assenbly lets look for candidates who represent our rights and not the bullshit liars that are recommended by the whores from FOP.
When a polititian takes the oath of office doesn't he or her swear under oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. Moments after getting sworn in they violate this oath. They do not try to preserve or protect or defend the Constitution. Lets get rid of the un-American whores one way or another.
How can any pol looks his people in thier eye and try and tell tham that such a policy is there to help them. EVERYONE knows that the criminals don't care about FOIDS, registration, insurance policies or whatever.
LEAVE THE HONEST MAN ALONG AND SUPPORT L.E.'S EFFORTS TO STOP CRIMINALS!!!!
"11y/o suspected of murdering his father's pregnant fiancee..."
You left out the victim was 16 & this was her 3rd child. Cue the Banjo Music.
Rep. Kenneth Dunkin is a known associate of our former Gov. Blagojevich and missed the impeachment vote because he was on a Caribbean cruise vacation with his family (one has to wonder which insurance company paid for that).
And whose family has a major financial interest in the local insurance industry, yes indeed, our beloved mayor.
Considering the track record of Chicago Democrats in office today and their propensity for criminality, which as a group far exceeds that of IOID Card holders, they should be required to secure similar insurance payable to the citizens of the state upon their criminal convictions. However, I don’t think even Lloyd's of London would want to touch that.
Time for a fuckin' revolt, people.
2/22/2009 03:46:00 AM
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name the time and the place..
chicago is ready
"2/22/2009 10:41:00 AM"
This is why the last people you want making laws are the lawyers.
"We will end up just like the UK...an unarmed public at the whim of an armed criminal society. violent crimed, home invasions and murders will sky rocket.
2/22/2009 12:08:00 PM"
Only if we enforce those unconstitutional non-laws.
"WTF!!! Talk about taxation without representation. Who the fuck makes up these boundaries?
2/22/2009 04:05:00 PM"
The Cook County Democratic Machine made members.
"With less than 2 yrs for before our chance to replace some of these liberal assholes in the US Congress and Illinois Assenbly lets look for candidates who represent our rights and not the bullshit liars that are recommended by the whores from FOP.
2/22/2009 04:16:00 PM"
Sigh.....
Blue Party Ticket.
autos kill way more people than firearms do-- does this mean that we have to have 1 million dollar liability insurance on auto.
"autos kill way more people than firearms do-- does this mean that we have to have 1 million dollar liability insurance on auto.
2/22/2009 10:57:00 PM"
No.
Too many voters own motor vehicles.
The answer would be yes, if they thought they could survive reelection afterwards.
Anonymous said...
Time for a fuckin' revolt, people.
2/22/2009 03:46:00 AM
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name the time and the place..
chicago is ready
2/22/2009 07:19:00 PM
I agree!
Hey Duncan, I'll stand by this quote...
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.”
-Thomas Jefferson
Anonymous said...
Where the hell is this great NRA that I just joined. Actually it's the second time I joined it. They did not do much here the first time. I joined it the seciond time because of this new supreme court ruling.
2/22/2009 12:19:00 PM
You ARE the NRA my friend.Paying dues and getting your magazine isnt enough.YOU need to write your elected officials.YOU need to call your elected officials.YOU need to attend the I-GOLD march coming up.
The NRA is YOU!!
Oh,yeah they do have lobbyists for you do nothing types.
It won't work. Why should the entire State of Illinois, or anywhere in this country that is relatively peaceful, have to pay to have an insurance policy to own a gun. Just because Shitvago and the near suburbs are over-run with fuckin Savages, who aren't gin to buy any insurance for their illegally owned guns? This is also Unconstitutional. It infringes on the right of people to keep and bear arms. the Bill of Rights says nothing about having to have insurance to own firearms. Sorry, it's just another scheme by the Lib-Commie-Dems to violate your rights while they collect fine money for violations, or get kickbacks from Insurance Companies if this is forced upon us. Stand Up for Your rights Sheeple, or you won't have ANY, not just this, any right guaranteed to you by our Laws of the Land. & also, please, Join NRA- Now.
Duncan would probably be the first not to have the Insurance if it passed, which it won't, but thats the way the Commie-Lib-Tards always are. Like years ago, Commie Lib-Tard San Fran-psycho, Cali-not-for-nia-if your're a True American, Mayor Dianne Feinstein, , Ms. Anti-Gun herself, was found to have been packing a .38 in her purse. Just another of the Liberal-Commie Hypocrites who have taken over our Government.
Commie-Lib-Dems will soon be trying their best to control the internet, and sites like this, so we can't express our Freedom of Speach, another Guaranteed Constitutional Right. They HATE that we have the Right, as Americans, to Criticize Them who Must be Obeyed.
Hey Duncan Yo-Yo-Boy,
first be sure your constituates, the G/D's, Vice Lords, Stones, L/K's, etc. get their policies, cause they'll still be running amuck here in Shitcago, and I'll be far away in retirement lad, away from the many, many, Shitcago, CROOK-County, SmellInois, ASSHOLE POLITICIANS like YOU, HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA
Further, don't come trying to come on MY Land, when you are fleeing these Savages you Lib-Commie big City Pols have bred.
From the Shitcago Libune Letters To The Editor
Daley’s failing gun laws
February 23, 2009
This is in regards to Mayor Richard Daley's remark in "Burris questioned in Blagojevich probe," (Chicagoland, Feb. 22), when he was asked about Sen. Roland Burris and he replied: "Three people got killed [last night]. Do you think the people who killed them care who is their U.S. senator?"
No, Mayor Daley, they do not care. They also do not care that so-called assault weapons are banned both in Chicago and Cook County, actual assault weapons have been severely restricted since 1934. They also do not care that it was illegal for them to own any type of firearm in Illinois without a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card, or that it is illegal to discharge a weapon within the city limits. They also do not care that they most likely are too young to own a firearm by federal statutes. They also do not care that that is illegal to commit murder and the many other laws they surely broke.
This leads me to ask you a question Mayor Daley: If they do not care about breaking the multiple laws that they did, why do you think the solution is to pass yet another law--a ban on so-called assault weapons that they will also ignore?
Mayor, it's time to admit that your long-time push for tougher and tougher gun laws is simply a failure. It's way past time that you have the political courage to attack the true causes of violent crime in Chicago: gangs, drugs, poverty and the dismal failure of the Chicago school system, just to name a few.
Anonymous said...
Time for a fuckin' revolt, people.
2/22/2009 03:46:00 AM
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name the time and the place..
chicago is ready
2/22/2009 07:19:00 PM
I agree!
2/23/2009 06:56:00 AM
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I dunno guyz...what if my Lt. sees me on Telemundo raising the red flag of anarchy over City Hall? He'll give my bar stool at Stanley's away and I'll be sent back to first watch in 003...
This is in connection with "The PRez" Barrack Hussein O'Bama taking the future of our country to SOCIALISM.
Now for every m/1/& f/1 who voted for him didn't you see this coming or did you vote for him because he is 1/2 black? He wants to take all of our guns and rights away! THE ECONOMY IS GETTING WORSE since O'Bama took office.
Just look at the Dow Jones avg. the stocks were selling off, and it's only Monday. He has this country worried. Were going to have another depression and this one is going to be 10x worse. Stop borrowing $$$ from China. Stop voting Democrats in office. I just want to see 1 out of City Hall. City workers againts Daley.
That is right, usually the gun toting gang bangers have an FOID. After all, it is the 2nd Amendment loving citizens that are committing all the crimes. (sarcasm in case the trolls don't pick up on it).
2/22/2009 12:51:00 PM
Actually, they do. Pay a little bit more attention when going throught the wallet. I am not talking about low level nickel and dime corner hustlers. The big fish have them.
And don't the citizens of Chicago pay yearly for registration fees?
THE ECONOMY IS GETTING WORSE since O'Bama took office.
Did you figure that out on your own? Are you a trained observer too? We have a lot in common, you and I.
Just look at the Dow Jones avg. the stocks were selling off, and it's only Monday.
Yep, it's all gone to hell in the 30+ days the happy Irishman's been in office. Nothing negative had happened with the economy in the years leading up to Monday (obviously). And thank Gawd it's only Tuesday, otherwise we'd really be in trouble.
He has this country worried.
You have me worried. Are you the new posterboy for randumb drug testing? Just don't do anymore vicodin and pepto bismol shots. Stick to valium, it's what you know.
Were going to have another depression and this one is going to be 10x worse.
10x? Not 9x or 11x?
Stop borrowing $$$ from China.
Don't worry that sweet ass of yours, I only borrow from idiots who drink a lot and forget to ask for the money back. Like you.
I suppose you got those new Il. license plates too!!! Don't worry, I'm very sober. I'm suprised you didn't mention anything about O'Bama turning this Gov. into a Socialist State. But, again you voted him in cuz he's black and had no idea what agenda he has for this country. By the way, the DOW sunk to a lower level after he opened his mouth.
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