Triple Homicide in 004
- Three teenagers were killed in a shooting this afternoon on Chicago's Southeast Side, officials said. At least one assault rifle was used in the shooting, Police Supt. Jody Weis said.
- The Cook County medical examiner's office said the victims were 13, 15 and 17, but it would not release the victims' names.
But don't worry!
- Police said they likely have surveillance video of the shootings because two pod cameras are on the street at the scene. "They're in great positions," Calumet Area Cmdr. Eddie Welch said of the cameras.
Well thank goodness for that. It must be a real comfort to the families. Too bad Chicago couldn't afford an extra 1,200 or so street coppers whose actual physical presence might have deterred the shooting.
Anyone want to point out how we were down ten whole homicides in January now? Seven dead last weekend and this weekend starting out with a triple header. Some detective or boss can tell us the year-to-date totals but one commentator says we are up 43% for February over last year. J-Fed? J-Fed? Hellooooooooo???
Anyone want to point out how we were down ten whole homicides in January now? Seven dead last weekend and this weekend starting out with a triple header. Some detective or boss can tell us the year-to-date totals but one commentator says we are up 43% for February over last year. J-Fed? J-Fed? Hellooooooooo???
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
191 Comments:
There was a hostage barricade in 014.. 4 hours police standoff.. guy shot himself in head.. good job to officers Sanchez, Diaz, Reyes and Rent who spotted the guy and gave chase.
These so called crime deterrent cameras operate in auto mode that means they move in a preset pattern. They pan left, right, up and down. The pattern repeats itself over again. Unless the shooter was moving with the camera most likely u got the sidewalk right under or a full zoom of a street drain. TONS OF TAXPAYERS DOLLARS WENT TO RICHIES RELATIVES AND CITY HAS USELESS POD CAMERAS !
Chalkie said:
Homicides:
Today 3
2008 1
YTD 2009:43 as of 2359Hrs. 20Feb09
YTD 2008:43 as of 2359Hrs. 20Feb08
Difference 0
Homicides pending 2
2 on Life Support (16 year old driveby victim, infant child abuse)
And the temp outside cant stay above freezing yet. Just wait!
Off Topic: Great work in 014 tonight, and a HUGE round of thanks to the outside units who handled jobs in the district while we were all held down during the stand off.
BUS DISTURBANCE ON WESTERN NEAR HOWARD STREET, (NORTH BORDER OF 24TH DISTRICT FOR YOU SOUTH SIDERS). SGT ON SCENE SAID LOOKED LIKE A VIDEO SETUP.
WATCH YOUR BACK. FOR SAFTEY CLEAR BUS OF ALL PASSENGERS BUT THE TROUBLE MAKER. DON'T ENTER BUS TILL BACK UP ARRIVES TO HELP AND BLOCK CAMERA VIEWS.
FUCK THIS "LITTLE BOY WHO CRIES WOLF". SOME DAY THIS LITTLE CAMERA FUCK IS GOING TO BE IN TROUBLE AND DUE TO HIS BS OR FATE THE RESPONDING PO'S MAY NOT GET THERE IN TIME TO HELP.
IMAGINE BEING AT THE MERCY OF A BUNCH OF WEST OR SOUTH SIDE HOOD RATS. IF HE IS LUCKY THEY WILL PUT ONE IN HIS HEAD INSTEAD OF STABBING HIM TO DEATH WITH DIRTY DULL KNIVES.
AND TO THE SUNTIMES EDITORIAL IN FRIDAYS PAPER, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU.
HOW DOES THAT SOUND? WHO IS YOUR SOURCE? PROB MADE ALL THAT SHIT UP. I WOULD HAVE POUNDED THE SHIT OUT OF THAT GUY THE SECOND HE PULLED AWAY THE FIRST TIME.
KEEP THIS SHIT UP AND WE PO'S WILL DO THE BS BALANCING TEST AND GET THERE IN A SAFE AND TIMELY FASHION.
GOOD LUCK.
commentary re: the aftermath of the 004th District shootings....1) at least one of the two closest POD cameras is uncontrollable, it works on its own, may or may not record internally...2)as an aside..."Welch: the cameras are in good position?".. what insanity is that? (I mean, did the camera postions prevent this event?; 3) at a recent boss meeting, it was said that, "we're up 40+ shootings since last year, and that's not good, since we're trying to get the Olympics"..well, I guess these new 3 kills ain't going to help much either, boss; 4) at the scene, tens of gold stars, with no lines of command (and more than a few that have no idea what the hell is going on), gold star folks giving orders, to the opposite of orders given by some other gold star bosses just a few minutes earlier....the "gold standard" (excuse the expression) of confusion and the lack of command and control...5) here's the best one, I thought (from a guy on the scene)....J-Fed (prior to his press conference) shows up, drives in slow, gets waved in from a block or two over....his vehicle keeps driving in, on 87th Street (a portion of which of was closed due to crime scene necessity)...his vehicle keeps going, into the crime scene tape, eventually stretching and snapping the tape...some of the cops/dicks see what's happening, but realize, hey, it's the Sup't.....so, after he destroys the original crime scene tape, the troops re-tape the scene....a leader?
There was also a shooting at 42nd and Rockwell last night about 11 PM; idiots yelling back and forth from cars, making gang signs, etc. until the shooting started. TV pic of a dark blue van with shot-out windows. Female shot in head, in critical condition at this time, possibly others wounded as well.
As of 2359 hrs on 19 Feb the numbers were as follows:
Homicides 40 last year 43 (-3)
Agg Batt 166 last year 122 (+44)
Hostage Barricade in 014 today.
A guy in Colorado killed his gf and fled to Chicago to kill his brother. Guy was seen by brother with gun and 3rd watch POs did their job and put out a good flash. Later that day two 3rd watch beat cars remember vehicle info from flash, stopped vehicle and offender fled with two guns in hand while dropping one. POs gave chase and guy barricaded himself for 4 hours at 2321 Kimball finally shooting himself in head. Good job by responding 014th dist officers, SWAT and HBT. No officer got hurt.
POD cameras are useless. If, and that's a big IF, the cameras were even focused to the actual location at the time of the shooting, the picture quality is awful. POD camera videos CANNOT be enhanced. You can't get a clearer image because if the image is blown up the pixels are pulled apart and the image becomes more distorted. POD cameras CANNOT read license plates because of the poor image quality. So unless the offenders climbed up the pole the POD camera is on after the shooting, and then looked directly into the lense, you got nothing.
Hey Leo.....
You got some splaining to do!
But no worries for you, you have your M-4 in your car, parked in front of your house, while we are out in the street with nothing to match what was used today.
You're just about as good as J-Fed, nothing but lies out of your mouth.
But, again, why worry. Your house is okay, it is in 22, and it is away from all the stuff we deal with. As long as you and your 'wife' are okay, then you will watch our backs, right? Isn't that how it goes??
What do we know thus far in relation to the crime? Offenders? cars? gang faction? Victims affiliation?
Summer appears to be here already. I must have missed opening day.
We all know the brass lie cause they are just a merit form of politician and it sounds good to the media. I would really like to see the video because I doubt the cameras caught anything. On a side note..I like the people interviewed on the news saying all three were not involved in any gang or drug activity. Yeah right. I guess they were targeted because the may become president someday.
Good thing that they took all of those gang teams out of the districts to further deplete man power...J-Fed??? Leo????
And they were deployed where???? I would hazard a guess....not in 004
Perfect! This is precisely where my new wide screen, hi-definition television will come in handy: the 16:9 aspect ratio will make it possible to simultaneously display all three of the victims while posed in their various graduation and/or cocked-to-represent baseball caps. Money well spent!
They have to lie to the media and say the cameras caught the shooter because they know the media will ask. There's no way they can say they don't have the film cause the media will hammer them as to why we spend so much money on the cameras if they don't work. We all know that chicago has crap equipment and nothing works! Everytime we ask for film there is always an excuse as to why the video didn't come out. The media should check out what Daley connection got the camera contracts.
You know what is amazing to me...i don't see any ignorant dumb asses protesting outside of 35th street...wasn't there an assault rifle used in this shooting. where is rev. robin hood and his band of moron men at, or those teenagers who pointed out that this isn't iraq...so there's no need for us to carry these carbine's.
Can someone verify wither the "Assault Rifle" was a true fully automatic model or merely a semi-automatic clone?
I worked in 004 20+ years ago and I'm not scooping a new news story... you guys that work there now know better than I do, and GOD Bless You All
87th & Commercial 2-4 blocks either side E/W-S/N was always "ground zero" for gang warfare(Black vs Black vs Hispanic vs Anyone)... Used to be easy pickings- See where the experts put the DOC over there.. targeting crackheads well north of there and in to 003...Officers Be Safe and back each other up-supposed assault rifle round casings found at scene
Stoch and Stella are rolling in their graves to see what has become of their old neighborhood.
Chalkie played 0-0-4 in last night's Pick 3...and won.
Had the reporter who wrote... Calumet Area Cmdr. Eddie Welch actually worked for Welch, he/she would of been dumped.
You see, you MUST CALL Calumet Area Cmdr. Eddie Welch by his full name.
Calumet Area Cmdr. Eddie Welch III.
Anybody forgetting to put the the three I's after his name because he is the 3rd usually gets dumped or a verbal ass reaming.
When Calumet Area Cmdr. Eddie Welch III leaves a brief note, he signs it Cmdr E-III.
We do have too many asswipes on this job, many of which are way over promoted!
"I got a triple! I got a trip, trip, trip, trip, triple!!! Can I get a Quad? Anybody? Anybody got a quadruple? Going once. Going twice. (Chalk outline of an extended arm appears, pointing skyward). Sold!!!! Sold to the silhouette of a man in the back row with the big smile on his face!".
The proposed million dollar insurance policy for LEGALLY owned guns by LEGAL gunowners will stop the next triple. What a joke. Now we get to hear about tougher gun laws for the next week.blah blah blah. We need cops not laws. Daley wake up and realize we need manpower not cameras or laws. Chicagoans are being sold out for the Olympics. How many lives must be lost for our leaders and their power trips. Fat green pockets are all our politicians care about.
Yea, I feel way safe in chicago when i see the pod cams on a phone pole. cause I know when dude starts kicking my ass the pod cam will respond accordingly...oh wait, not the pod cam, but by glock 22, will respond. I feel sorry for the sheep, who are unarmed in the wild wild west
Please enought of the B.S. The cameras, even if they do work, are either blurry, pointed at a brick wall or inable to provide any useful images. Why is it that only police officers realize these things are useless. At a cost of 30,000 each we could at least buy a new squad car for every camera in service.
The trifecta........
My prediction..they'll have marches,upon marches...all the community activists will say their speeches....city leaders will say how horrified they are.. ...then..in a couple weeks, everyone will leave, and it'll be up to the district,short handed as they are,to end the cycle of violence.
Ummmm...what exactly are we supposed to be getting for that 300K salary again? I'm not seeing it.
How bout having a Burger King summit to resolve this recent conflict.
The Shitty Of Shitcago Is Becoming More "Chalkified" By the Day!
Hey JPUD & SHORTSHANKS!
I Want To Cut Back My Hours A Little.If You Put 1,200 Or So More Blueshirts On the Streets, I Might Be able To Kick Back a Little, I've Been working Too Hard Lately, Just Ask the Real Police On the Streets.
Oh, By the Way, You Can Tell that White Shirt about The Pud Cameras That He Mentions, THEY DO NOT DETER CRIME,ON STREET WORKING POLICE DO,Just Ask Me, I Should Know.
COO KOO
Cameras are exactly like orders of protection. A sense of false security.
Per orders of Brass on scene and poor communication, a possible offender may have gotten away. Very poorly handled.
Appears to be King on Stone.
Rumor has it the POD camera at the scene hasn't worked for a couple years, oops!
Bring on the Olympics, someone needs to slap the mayor and wake him up from his dream. If this was on the northwest side and they were three students from Northside College Prep things would be different. The citizens of chicago need to call the mayors office and tell him to screw him and his olympics! It is only a matter of time before it hits your neighborhood, tell him you want your city safe and do not give a damn about the olympics. Let him know how you want him to spend the government stimulus money because he will use it however HE wants in areas that will help noone. I guess the Mobile strike Force was off because according to the Sup. they are the reason homicides were down in January, not the extreme cold. I want a reason from him why this happened, maybe lack of police, call the mayors office and tell them you want answers. I am sick and tired of this city and its mayor, if this were the private sector he would have been gone along time ago due to mismanagemet. Someone please post the phone number fro the olympic committee so we can all call and tell them how dangerous this city is and give them info. that has been kept from them.
Are the two pod cameras going to take time for inattention to duty? They didn't intervine and stop the murders.
Maybe more PO's should be pulled in to monitor the pods better. That will fix everything.
Roll em!
off topic but...MSF 4608, bald head with leg holster... nice u-turn in front of that citizen on halsted yesterday...if there had been ice, you would have been t-boned by that citizen. Did you impress the chicks in that little boutique restaurant with the leg holsters and BDU outfits ? You must have been in a hurry to go get that one bagger and or gun that doesnt work arrest.
great job in 014 last night with the barricade situation. PO's CS and DD did a great job, as well as the rest of 014, swat, and every other unit on scene. bad guy does himself in, and the good guys go home unhurt.
job well done!!!
"...so, after he destroys the original crime scene tape, the troops re-tape the scene....a leader?
2/21/2009 12:47:00 AM"
I suppose it's too much to hope that someone captured that sequence on video.....
"POD cameras CANNOT read license plates because of the poor image quality. So unless the offenders climbed up the pole the POD camera is on after the shooting, and then looked directly into the lense, you got nothing.
2/21/2009 01:05:00 AM"
So, what do you suppose was the markup on those, maybe, $50 cameras?
Victim from 009 is a statistic now too!!
saw the figures about 5 days ago. we were two less than the same time last year. (40 last year/this time)
Not the most sensitive quote...................
I don't know if those pretty blue flicking lights next to the cameras block views or help guide them to OZ.. but one Officer saw the shooter going down the street with what he thought was shot gun, calling for Help because school just let out, PACKS of KIDS everywhere Officer telling Radio that he has one kid down on 87th Exchange(NO ONE SAW Anything) 3 CHILDREN Down again we say Children!! Now we know U B Gangster.. Gangster is.. But a AK 47 I know we won't be getting them b cuz it ain't in Our budget that Officer was Crook County Sheriff who just knocks on those doors in "OZ" Alone.. U be served and he will be out there again tomorrow. Anyone in a blue uniform knows inside them what the SHIT is on those streets Just be safe and continue to be there for each other
Hey SCC, while on the subject of
homicide totals, police morale and manpower, it made we wonder how can we have as many homicides as N.Y. with only a third of the
residents. I looked at the NYPD website and found some interesting facts.
Applications:
The primary function of the Applicant Processing Division is to select the most qualified police officer candidates for a challenging career in the New York City Police Department. It is the responsibility of each applicant investigator to ensure that pertinent aspects of every candidate's history have been thoroughly reviewed. The command's major accomplishment is the processing of approximately 205,000candidates for the position of police officer within the last five years, of which 15,600 were hired.
Salary:
The academy starts out at $43,062 and steps to $69,005 base pay at 5 yrs this includes uniform allowance, holiday pay and night shift differential. The base pay before overtime only 6 months later (5.5yrs) is $90,829... WTF!!! There is no residential requirement and with pay like that I'll bet their morale is much better than ours. The NYPD is represented by the PBA (Patrolmen's Benevolent Association)
Additional Benefits:
10 Paid vacation days during first & second year
13 Paid vacation days during third, fourth & fifth year
27 Paid vacation days after 5 years of service
Unlimited sick leave with full pay
A choice of paid medical programs
Prescription, dental, and eyeglass coverage
Annuity fund
Deferred Compensation Plan, 401K and I.R.A.
Optional retirement at one half salary after 20 years of service
Annual $12,000 Variable Supplement Fund (upon retirement)
Annual banking of $12,000 Variable Supplement Fund after 20 years of service (if not retiring)
Excellent promotional opportunities
Educational opportunities
Additional benefits are available to military personnel.
I wonder how long the NYPD go without a contract. If the PBA would like to come to chicago to hold some informational meetings, I'm sure there will be alot of fop members interested in hearing what they have to say.
Good thing they did this when no cops were around because our pea shooters would be no match for that assault rifle weather semi or full auto. We might have had a few coppers dead along with the kids. I feel really bad for the kids and their parents should be screaming for justice and asking questions like, where were the police? why is the Department short over a thousand officers?
"good job to officers Sanchez, Diaz, Reyes and Rent who spotted the guy and gave chase."
HUH? How you figure? It became an HBT & he offed himself. Save the backslaps& Dept. Commendations for something more worthy than a chase & a doorslam.
I agree we need more officers, even more than the 1200 we are short. But even if we get them we don't even have enough cars to put them in. In my district we are often doubled up in cars riding 4 deep it's insane. I thought we were gonna get the Tahoes. Oh well, like riding bitch in the back seat it's fun. I can't wait to use my empty PDT mount for my seat next week.
Why dont we have concealed carry??I feel VERY unsafe in the City of Chicago.
I see a pattern.
I never thought in 19 yrs I'd beg but PLEASE GET US SOME CARS AND MANPOWER.If anyone in the media or even bloggers read this, HELP US,this mismanagement of YOUR TAXDOLLARS is costing us lives.The cameras that cost in the MILLIONS ARE USELESS.We need people on the street not R2D2.I used to go to rollcall with a room full of people,now it's a hand full of the indifferent,tired and unappreciated.
Daley wake up and realize we need manpower not cameras or laws. Chicagoans are being sold out for the Olympics. How many lives must be lost for our leaders and their power trips? Fat green pockets are all our politicians care about.
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Daley and J-fed gathered in their masses
just like witches at black masses
evil minds that plot destruction
Sorcerers of deaths construction
In chicago streets our youth are burning
As the Democratic war machine keeps turning
(in turn)
Death and hatred to mankind (citizens)
Poisoning their brainwashed minds, oh lord yeah!
(chicago media)
Politicians hide themselves away.....
J-Fed calls for MORE gun laws!
Huh?
http://www.nbcchicago.com/
How about some cameras inside Shitty Hall??
Then we could see the REAL criminals!
SCC
I am an old timer, just waiting out my 63rd birthday. I worked in Gangs South, the old Fillmore station, etc. I could go on, but many of you would not know what I am talking about. I have faced the fact that I am too old to chase bad guys, especially when they out gun us anyway, so please be safe. In the end, you need to go home to your families. This is a job, remember that!
What I am finding disturbing each and every day is how the Mayor and the Superintendent hark on centralizing the department for efficiency, when everyday we get more and more de-centralized. Each unit basically does its own thing. Even if you have an exempt meeting and have everyone that works in an area like Area 2, you have them spending more time trying to justify their position and brag about all they have done, and in the end, no one did anything to share information or work together to target anyone!
You may have the Commander of Gangs, the Commander of Gang Intelligence (this was the stupidest decision in the history of CPD - its so stupid, its comical but we have a budget crunch), Commander of the Detectives, the District Commanders, the Commander of TRU, the Commander of Narcotics (gangs and narcotics go right together, why are they separate), the Commander of the Mobile Strike Force (What the fuck?) and Mike Masters who is the Commander of Stupidity! By the way, what is his purpose at a homicide scene? He is not sworn, he does not head any unit that addresses crime, he has no gun, well he shouldn't legally at least, and he is in the way playing important and waiting to see what gold star will kiss his ass the most, then that is the guy we like, isn't that right Jfed!
Anyway, you make sure all of the above units are filled with officers and supervisors alike. Patrol and the Detective Division are left in shit, working like dogs with no resources, no cars, no working PDT's, no working radios, shit stations, and you take all the gang officers out of every single district. Then you tell the Commanders and the Watch Commanders/Lieutenants, that they better perform. Now back to removing the gang teams, they KNOW who all the key players are and they can get the community to talk. That is how you solve crime, not your stupid cameras that may catch a glimpse of the shooter or not. You put them in an entire area which makes them that less efficient because they are trying to establish relationships on a large scale and can do minimal follow-up because you HAVE to move around the Area.
Jfed, you need to look at the history of CPD and the tactics that work. This is not the FBI. This is street level policing. We live in these communities. You and Mike Masters live in the downtown area where you are not concerned with a drive-by. My grand kids are all over the city in the nicer neighborhoods, and guess what, they really don't exist anymore. Even the nicer neighborhoods are feeling the brunt of Chicago's violence.
For the sake of these kids that are dying everyday get out of our city and off of our department. Please take your useless FBI buddies with you.
Signed,
The Real Old Time Police
The bad guys had an assault rifle, shooting in broad daylight right in front of 2 flashy lights cameras. A different set of bad guys shot a known high profile gang member from the 3rd District right in front of the Area Deputy Chiefs Office, Area 2 Detective Division, the 5th District and the Headquarters of the Area 2 Gang Unit. Simply said, how the fuck does that sound?
Eddie Welch the Turd is a moron. He has the lowest clearance rate in the city his kool aid drinking clout boys cant solve an addition probem much less a homicide. He craps on everyone that doesnt have a phone call. Eddie Welch is part of the reason Area 2 leads the cityin homicedes and every other crime.
who would win in a fight? Chalkie or Seizer? how about a lil cele death match SCC style.
The major crime element is out south. That is statistically correct. Since I live out south, work out south, my kids go to school out south and most of my family and friends are in this area, why not start with moving help out south. Why not try actually giving all 5 Districts in Area 2 the true number of officers, supervisors and lieutenants that it needs to compliment a district. Not based on those old bullshit numbers from 1972, but real numbers that reflect the population and the crime. That's what you aldermen and ministers should be bitching about. Then give them enough cars so the district's personnel can make it to a call instead of putting foot posts all over the districts, well at least until we get rid of some of the key elements of crime. Then allow the Commander to actually run the district, not just listen to the Deputy Chief and Deputy Superintendent talk, then just follow orders like a good soldier!
Get us a real Deputy Chief, not one who's district has lead the city in ALL VIOLENT CRIME from the time he got there till the time he left. All he does now is criticize what all of the Commanders in Area 2 are not doing, talk about how he would have handled crime and allow his staff to dog all the Districts staff just to make a point, that she is his woman and they run it! Last I checked, you were a bitter, unintelligent troll then and you are an even older, bitter unintelligent troll now. The door is wide open. We listen to your conversations all day!
Last I checked Deputy Chief Alexander, one of the 3rd District's top ten had court right across from your office and got shot right in front of your office as he left. Who's fault was that? Did you let any of the units within this area know he had court? Did the gang unit know? Did gang intelligence know. Did TRU know? So not only are you stupid, you are dangerous. One of us could have been killed because you want everything to reflect it as having come from you! No sharing of information and no support if information is shared with you. You spend more time trying to dissect it and see how you can use it, then stand in front of all the bosses, sticking your little chest out and saying, I did it, it was my idea and my efforts! They can see you don't do shit, you don't know shit, you have been a clout baby since you came on the job, you ride coat tails and you have no clue on how to motivate anyone to want to work together, let alone come work next to you!
The most dangerous job in Chicago: the job of being a CPS student....like that has anything to do with anything..
Can anyone confirm any details about the "assault rifle" used? The only details in the Trib article is someone saying it was a MAC-10 which could never be considered a rifle.
Wow, didn't take long for JFed to make himself look like an ass...AGAIN! Who are the morons who are advising this guy before he opens his mouth? Makes you realize that our "leaders" and their "think tank" are embarrassingly clueless about policing.
DON'T WEARY, WE HAVE J-FED AND HIS FBI PALS TO SOLVE THESE CRIMES FORGET ABOUT MORAL AND HIS MERIT APOINTEES. We the tax payers are screwed.
A Mac-10 is NOT an assault rifle. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC-10
Assault Rifle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_Rifle
Machine Pistol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_pistol
Why can't anyone EVER get their gun facts straight???
OT---
Did I see a post somewhere that the skull is leaving?
Anonymous said...
Hey Leo.....
You got some splaining to do!
But no worries for you, you have your M-4 in your car, parked in front of your house, while we are out in the street with nothing to match what was used today.
You're just about as good as J-Fed, nothing but lies out of your mouth.
But, again, why worry. Your house is okay, it is in 22, and it is away from all the stuff we deal with. As long as you and your 'wife' are okay, then you will watch our backs, right? Isn't that how it goes??
2/21/2009 01:27:00 AM
yea and ellyns new camry hybrid compliments of aviation dept. When will she go? Oh I forgot leo rides a harley and j-fed will not move a harley "brother" or the head of desrtuction ellyn!
Read the March issue of Chicago magazine "Can Cameras Replace Cops?" I think some in the media are starting to wake up.
OT;
Does anybody have any info about gang activty at Normandy Park.
Letter to Weis,
Indifferent or not, it's just a matter of time that you are made the scape-goat for the rising crime statistics. The mayor will oust you as he has done all of the others. You can go quietly, or you can stand up & make a difference. Call it what it is, with four officers murdered, ten shot, hundreds shot at, & hundreds of civilian casua1ties; this is city is in the midst of Urban Warfare.
A war that is being fought by thousands of dedicated officers that feel that they have been abandoned. Why don't you do a ride-along everyday for two weeks & learn what carnage your officers are dealing with on a daily basis. Then report the truth back to the media. Tell them that this madness will not stop until zero tolerance is initiated & that parents need to be held responsible for the actions of their children. Then initiate some common sense protocols. You could start with getting your officers a fair contract & by standing by them when they you need to.
And when Daley finally dumps you, you'll have the support of the masses. You can turn around, run for mayor & knock him out of office.
There was a hint of hope when you took over, with all of your promises. Unfortunately they all turned out to be empty rhetoric. You were naive to the back-stabbing politics played in this town. It's time for you to step up or fade to oblivion.
Signed;
Ashamed of this City
Lord help us all...things will get worse before they improve. It's not about the high command of this Dept.
We have to look out for and protect each other out there.
Hold together, people. This is going to be a tough year for law enforcement, but if we all look out for each other, we'll get through it.
We have bigger problems out there than poor leadership.
Be there to protect one another PLEASE.
Hey!!! Let's have a community anti-violence march led by Shortshanks and J-Fed. Chant with me now: NO MORE KILLING! NO MORE KILLING! MORE CAMERAS!! MORE MSF!!! MORE GANG ENFORCEMENT UNIT !!
Won't that solve everything?
Good job to everyone in 014 during the HBT last night. Officers showed a great deal of courage in going after the offender.
J-Fed said on TV that we need stronger laws to prevent assault rifles on the street. Is he that clueless? State can pass numerous laws and still no one available to enforce the laws. There is a horrible shortage on officers on the street. Cameras that do not work. Quality of pictures and video very poor. No matter how he spins the story, CPD lacks the manpower to handle the volume of 911 calls let alone arrest gang bangers with guns. J-FED completely ignored that officers cannot match a teen with a automatic rifle. Moblie strike force and mobile gang teams cannot stop the homicide rate. They are great sound bites on TV. But help is on the way. 200 new hires this year. Then 200 promotions and 300 retirements. WTF!
Off Topic: Great work in 014 tonight, and a HUGE round of thanks to the outside units who handled jobs in the district while we were all held down during the stand off.
2/21/2009 12:23:00 AM
Well said Office. No one ever thanks the guys in the background, picking up the slack. It's always a TEAM effort.
Stay safe my family in blue.
That neighborhood was old, but well kept when I was growing up.
Now....Chalkie got another hat trick.
Pinhead J-Fraud blamed "guns on the street" for these murders, parrotting our moron Mayor's limp reasoning.
Apparently the weapons used fired themselves. It certainly couldn't have been members of the "community" at fault.
This will, of course, kicks
the Race Industry into high gear. Hoards of con-man reverends are alreading galloping towards the nearest TV camera to bleat the same shit.
Con-man in Chief, Jesse Jackson, is already practicing crying on cue.
Nothing changes.
The III after Welch's name refers to his IQ.
Did the first responding police in 004 has the M4? The officers in 014 did not. Where are the M4's?
Add another one...
Teen girl shot in van dies
February 21, 2009 5:55 AM | 5 Comments |
A 16-year-old girl died this morning, a day after she was shot while riding in a van on the Southwest Side with several people police suspect are gang members.
Racheal Beauchamp, of the 3000 South Keeley Avenue, was pronounced dead at Mt. Sinai Hospital at 1:45 a.m., according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.
Well, Weis, so much for your much ballyhooed press conferences last month proclaiming this year "a success...no excuses this time."
Good, I hope this means TRU with be in 004 for a long while!!!
Daley wants cameras on every street corner. Guess no money for a contract*......
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1440402,mayor-daley-emergency-surveillance-cameras.article
The guy in 014 shot himself in the head yesterday because he got sick of listening to the negotiator and the FBI sidekick standing next to him.
Good job by Swat last night and excellent job by 014 as well, minus the idiot Capt. Anderson who is completely clueless and asked if the case report was for a UUW.
The kicker is somebody respnded to her sayig sure if you plan on locking him up.
That is precisely what is wrong with merit on this job.
By the way FBI if you read this and we know you do take the idiot back and stay off of our scenes.
BREAKING NEWS: Cook County public defender locked up for battery in 019 last night. Not only drunk and abusive but helped her co- offender who also was a public defender leave the scene prior to the police arrival. Can you imagine if this was an off duty officer. Felony charges approved and all over the morning news! Dont let this one die people. Think of what they have done to CPD in the past!
SO FAR THE ONLY WORKING CAMERA IS OWNED BY THE SHIT HEAD THAT VIDEO TAPED THE OFFICER ON THE BUS.....AND THAT CAMERA WAS A LITTLE CHEAPER THAN A CPD POD...LOL
What do we know thus far in relation to the crime? Offenders? cars? gang faction? Victims affiliation?
Summer appears to be here already. I must have missed opening day.
2/21/2009 01:30:00 AM
I think the Sox and Cubs both lost.
Attention media. Someone ask Jody or Da Mayor how many crimes that the pod cameras have solved or have helped solve? Ill tell you right now how many NONE. Ask them why is that? Are they not recording, are they not being monitored, or are they not functioning?
Off topic, check this link and join the Chicago Tea Party..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA
WHAT THE F..K!!! 016 has this PO that develops videos that helps us make arrests. Today, I ask the guy to do a video for me, and he tells me he can't, he got dumped to a car. This is the same guy that did the video that helped find that 3 yr old girl from CVS. He helps solve crimes and gets dumped "what the fuck".
There's a few other people in tact office that are do nothings, a pretty little dollie, a few other people that sit on their asses all day, and this guy, the guy that does videos that help with several arrests gets dumped. I thought he was being a prick, but I found out that the commander actually dumped his ass. You actually do work that help with arrests and you get dumped. Go figure!
Asshat bossess!
I predict a record setting year for homicides AGAIN!!! Once it warms up its open season! Also they told us at roll call that our district was down something like 15,000 tickets from last year!!! GOOD I hope we r down another 20,000 this year. The only thing Daley and his boys undersatnd is money and we are NOT writing!!!!!! Maybe something will sink ito his fat thick skull. 20 months with no contract, FUCK YOUR OLYMPIC BID!
Dear Superintendent Weis:
It is tragic that Chicago youths so often kill one another, as happened Friday afternoon on the southeast side. I wish to thank you and the CPD for handling these terrible situations, and trying to bring perpetrators to justice.
But I wish to communicate some serious disappointment I have with you and your coverage of this incident. It has to do with your general tendency to place blame on firearms, instead of on the perps, poor parental supervision, or the failure to enforce Chicago’s strict anti-gun, drug, and gang laws. Your approach serves only to distract from the real issues at hand, and is fundamentally misguided.
By placing the blame on firearms, you encourage the media to do so and distract the public from the source of these problems. You tend to emphasize the type of firearm, such as saying that an “assault rifle” was used, based on cartridge casings. Officer Weis, it makes you look foolish and dishonest when you make such claims. For one, you know that assault rifles are fully automatic and have been banned since the 1934 National Firearms Act. You understand that one cannot tell an assault rifle from a mere semiauto rifle based on spent casings. You can say “it was likely an AK or SKS-type firearm because casings were 7.62x39”, but you cannot claim it was an automatic rifle. Simply put, your dishonesty may fool some Chicagoans, but not those who know better. We see through the dishonesty for what it is worth … political advancement via a gun-control agenda.
I know that your boss directs you to advance his political agenda of gun control. Why? He would be re-elected even if he WAS truthful about the inefficacy of his gun control approach to crime. You know that Chicago’s handgun ban will soon be ruled unconstitutional, and soon after that, so will Chicago and Cook’s ban on semiauto firearms … the ones that the Supreme Court ruled were protected because they are common, and commonly owned for all manner of lawful uses. The very firearms you dishonesty call “assault rifles.”
You also know that the right to own and carry arms does NOT authorize anyone to commit offensive violence with them. As a cop, you know that guns don’t commit offensive violence unless in the hands of a criminal inclined to do so. Guns are common and criminals uncommon. Please, do your job. Your job is to apprehend criminals and submit them to the justice system. Your job is to lobby our government to keep dangerous criminals locked up. Your job is to uphold your oath toward protecting the constitution. Your job is NOT to promote the infringement of the rights of the people. Law-abiding gun owners are on the side of law, of order, and of our beloved police departments. By playing Daley’s political game of gun control, you distance yourselves from your own biggest fans … law abiding gun owners.
Please, reconsider your approach to these issues. Not only does your current approach make you and your Department look foolish and dishonest, but by denying good people their right to arms and self-defense, you exacerbate the problem of criminal violence while simultaneously stomping on the rights of law abiding people.
An excellent opportunity to suggest how to spend Illinois stimulus money.
GO TO:
recovery.illinois.gov
We are even with last year on homicides. Go back 5-10 years and we are still down, a lot. Violence is down almost everywhere except here. Well does moral effect policing? How many coppers out there have slowed down tremendously after their 5 years?
There was a quadruple homicide in 17 a few weeks ago. If you check the stats the computer only says 2.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Y50hE5ri8
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THE CAMERAS ARE NO GOOD WITHOUT THE PEOPLE TO MONITOR THEM. THEY ARE NOT SET UP TO ZOOM IN ON CRIME. THERE IS NO WAY TO DO THIS. THE CAMERAS ARE THERE TO GIVE THE PEOPLE OF THE AREAS THEY ARE IN A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.
WISE UP PEOPLE. THE CAMERAS ARE NO GOOD WITHOUT SOMEONE ACTUALLY MONITORING THEM TO ZOOM IN ON THE ACTUAL CRIME TAKING PLACE.
YOU ARE NOT SAFE. SHORTSHANKS JUST WANTS YOU TO THINK HE IS DOING SOMETHING FOR YOU.
TRANSLATION DA MAYOR DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU...HE JUS CARE ABOUT KEEPING RELATIVES & FRIENDS IN DA MONEY. YA GOTS DAT! I'S HOPE SO.
Plus we had another 16 year old girl killed in 9. She was shot Friday night but they finnally pulled the plug last night.
016 commander where's our video guy? we got citwide arrests to make with no pics. this guy was great, we made alot of arrests with his help.
thanks for nothing.
Jody Weis where were you last night? Fuck you asshole leave OUR CITY!!! YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING YOU SCARED BITCH!!
On the HBT incident in 014, can any P.O. who was on scene justify this fact. That the offender was about to give up after the P.O.'s put a stop on his vehicle. Offender even dropped his gun to the ground. But some boss came running up on scene screaming (maybe 1460?) and spooked the guy. Causing the offender to retreive his gun and run inside the house?
From a 40 yr. vet, SO WHAT !!!
I'm glad that Jody was on scene along with Eric "I want more activity and less overtime you recession proof pricks" Carter. I'm sure these knuckleheads can solve this case.
There was a triple because MSF was not patrolling in that hood.
And for my next joke.......
Heard a rumor that Weis is supposed to get a $500k exit bonus if he lasts the full 3 years.
Way Off Topic. Sorry.
Thanks and hats off to the Niles PD guy who extended a professional courtesy to me Friday nite.
You are the real deal.
Thank you
be safe.
Does anyone know if transfer bids are on going or were last week??? FOP book says they are now but CO book says they were last week... Anyone know the answer???
One just got out of juvenile detention a few weeks ago. He was safe in there, relatively.
They were all good boys, trying to get their lives together, all aspiring rap stars.
Gonna' break the CPS murder record this for sure.
Don't worry Jody, we have your back just like you have ours.
ANOTHER HOMICIDE
"There was also a shooting at 42nd and Rockwell last night about 11 PM; idiots yelling back and forth from cars, making gang signs, etc. until the shooting started. TV pic of a dark blue van with shot-out windows. Female shot in head, in critical condition at this time, possibly others wounded as well."
--2/21/2009 12:49:00 AM
Write this one up as DEAD. ABC-TV news just this moment reported that Rachael Beauchamp has died.
The initial TV reports, interviews with police on-scene, did point up the fact that there were exchanges of words and hand signs before the shooting started; the vehicle was apparently not just innocently "traveling," as the Sun-Times story below seems to imply.
Girl wounded in SW Side shooting dies
February 21, 2009
FROM STNG WIRE REPORTS
"A 16-year-old girl who was wounded in a shooting on the Southwest Side late Thursday has died.
"The girl, identified as Racheal Beauchamp, of the 3000 block of South Keeley Street, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner's office, was in a vehicle traveling east on the 2500 block of West 42nd Street when somebody fired shots into the vehicle about 11:15 p.m., police said.
"Beauchamp was struck in the head by the gunfire. She was taken to Mount Sinai Hospital, where she was pronounced dead at 1:45 a.m. Saturday, according to the medical examiner's office..."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/
24-7/1443088,w-south-west-side-
shooting-victim-dies-022109.
article
The pods are great IF they are being monitored and used by hand, if not it's a crap-shoot, with heavy emphasis on the first word.
we need the draft back take these punks off the street at 18. since the draft has stopped, gangs have increased.
Fill me up Kline put Welch in for merit Lt from A/5 favor "order" to Hillerd. Kline had to continue the "look out for my guy even after I'm gone" routine and made Welch cmdr. Gues what else Kliner got? He got himself a contract with the pod camera folks and he gets a kick from every sale in the city. Look into that bs folks.
Off Topic:
Lets see how the Pushead media handles the tale of Chandra Levy being slaughtered by a vile and disgusting criminal illegal alien that was allowed to roam the USA freely by our rulers.
Arm all citizens.
There's no time to fight crime when all our resources are currently delegated to sneaking into districts undetected and tracking down fax machine users.
Why do all the dispatchers in an emergency-type situation want to locate the officer (while in the squad)...officer where is your location? your location officer? I thought we all had the GPS...isn't the GPS supposed to help "locate" the officer?
Wht gives? Is the GPS really actually working? Any dispatchers care to answer? Why is all this $$ being spent and they still can't locate officers in an emergency situation???????
Anonymous said...
Why do all the dispatchers in an emergency-type situation want to locate the officer (while in the squad)...officer where is your location? your location officer? I thought we all had the GPS...isn't the GPS supposed to help "locate" the officer?
Wht gives? Is the GPS really actually working? Any dispatchers care to answer? Why is all this $$ being spent and they still can't locate officers in an emergency situation???????
2/21/2009 06:31:00 PM
I was off my beat by about 6 blocks two weeks ago and they asked "Beat XXXX, what is your location right now?" They knew exactly where I was, probably a supervisor told them to watch me or something. Usual reasons, malcontent, don't take shit etc.
But an emergency, a multiple shooting? And they can't locate all their cars right fucking there on the board? Get your money back if it can't do that.
Anonymous said...
Can someone verify wither the "Assault Rifle" was a true fully automatic model or merely a semi-automatic clone?
I take back all the bad stuff I said about Jfed...he could tell just by the shell casings at the scene that the firearm used was an assault rifle.
a damn genius
P.S. NEVER TRUST A FED
An old school 610 Detective (now deceased) used to yell at you, if you said the phrase "Assault rifle". He'd say, in a gruff smoker's voice. . . . "Did the rifle Fxxxing verbally threaten the person before the armed person fired it?" priceless. Detective
(1st Class) Eddie Triggs, R.I.P.
Anonymous said...
On the HBT incident in 014, can any P.O. who was on scene justify this fact. That the offender was about to give up after the P.O.'s put a stop on his vehicle. Offender even dropped his gun to the ground. But some boss came running up on scene screaming (maybe 1460?) and spooked the guy. Causing the offender to retreive his gun and run inside the house?
2/21/2009 03:33:00 PM
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1460 was not on the scene until AFTER the guy was barricaded.
Anonymous said...
I'm glad that Jody was on scene along with Eric "I want more activity and less overtime you recession proof pricks" Carter. I'm sure these knuckleheads can solve this case.
2/21/2009 03:54:00 PM
Last I checked, that is what YOU are supposed to get paid for doing! No matter what you say about EC, no matter how much salt you jagoffs try to poor, the truth is the truth. He IS one of us, don't compare him to that jagoff JFed. I would go to battle and ride with him on any fucking job, HBT incident, shoot out or whatever the fuck comes my way. You are just pissed that he is not letting the real jagoffs behind the scene run the district like the last kiss ass sell out Commander, now turned Deputy Chief.
Anonymous said...
OT;
Does anybody have any info about gang activty at Normandy Park.
2/21/2009 10:41:00 AM
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Why yes Mr/Ms reporter/citizen, we do. Please contact the CAPS office for the latest statistics and additional information YOU can do to help. BTW- there is gang activity in EVERY park.
Now that's a fucking lie. Yes, I was there. As much brass that was on the scene trying to interfere, the 4th District Commander and the Detective Division Commander allowed the Detectives and crime scene investigators to do their job. My only question is, what is the point of the entire chain of command being at a homicide scene? You can do absolutely nothing. You cannot be included in anything due to the possibility of compromising the crime scene or the case. You stand around watching and just waiting to interject or get your face in the media. Go the fuck home! We don't need you there fucking up our efforts. I was standing outside so long because my fucking heat didn't work well in my squad car. It was warmer standing at the Lieutenant's window talking to him sucking up his heat! Thanks Jfed. With all the brass and wasted hours that were out there, I bet you could have bought this district 2 squad cars!
On the HBT incident in 014, can any P.O. who was on scene justify this fact. That the offender was about to give up after the P.O.'s put a stop on his vehicle. Offender even dropped his gun to the ground. But some boss came running up on scene screaming (maybe 1460?) and spooked the guy. Causing the offender to retreive his gun and run inside the house?
2/21/2009 03:33:00 PM
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True,
offender put his gun in his hat and was putting it down. A sgt onscene was screaming to get everyone back. offender got spooked and stayed inside.
No Clue J-Pud:
Tell the truth for once, you hired conman.
Everyone knows a gun is an inert object. It will NOT function if left alone.
Guns DO NOT kill.
A person has to charge a weapon and pull a trigger.
The suspect gang banger is the reason 3 were killed. Say it that way pud.
An out of control, killing, worthless, gangbanger, pulled a trigger on an inert object to inflict fatal damage on 3 victims.
More likely than not they were also gangbangers.
Say it right.
The way it is.
also:
assault rifle? fully automatic?
is this a fact?????
One can only make an assumption that a witness explained the length of the weapon or the cyclical sounds of repeated shots,
or evidence was recovered such as 20 or more expended cartridges in a limited area???
An assault rifle such as an AK has a distinct appearance, as do other assault weapons on the street today. Usually EYE witnesses (gangbangers) know the weapon, not always.
These weapons also have distinct sounds when fired in full auto where as a non EYE witness could
still be helpful by description.
J-Pud must be telling us all that he has an eye witness who described the weapon or at least have recovered a "large" quantity of expended casings from the path of the driveby.
in any case pud, stop bullshitting the public.
I can't wait to use my empty PDT mount for my seat next week.
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It's the CPD version of a 'jump seat."
Guess what Jfed and Short shanks,
The District could not do a damn thing to prepare or prevent this shit. Due to economic times, people that have savage tendencies prevail. Those kids were shot right in front of 6 Cook County Sheriffs in Uniform. They don't give a fuck about the police, this is survival! They know they out gun us, so I am grateful that none of us were in the fucking way!
Commanders of 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 and 15, especial 3,4 and 6 turn in your fucking PAR forms. Their is not shit you can do. They will never give you what you need to be effective, so stop wasting your time being stressed out, called down to meeting after meeting asked stupid question after stupid question, loosing sleep each and every night. Remember Risley, Fallin and a whole slew of others died from a stress related illness before they were 55. Not that I like the old bosses, but they did work. The Mayor said thank you by allowing this damn fool to kick them straight to the curve!
Just try telling the truth:
*We don't have enough good police
*We have NO incentives to give the police. Working just because they like the Commander or the Watch Commander is far over. The last 15 years of the newly appointed police are doing it because they could not find a job else where. They are educated and really believe they should be doing something else, so they settled for this bullshit to pay the bills. I am a lieutenant, so I know. I deal with this shit everyday.
*The department does not foster the creation of the "real police" anymore.
*We don't have resources, like cars, yep cars. Remember those?
*The police in the shit districts have friends that work in the good districts like 16, 1, 18 and 20. They hear about the shit they have and the great pilot things they get. Real motivator Jodi!
*Due to the economy, shit is even more fucked up
*People don't have jobs
*The poor are even more poor and more angry
*Ex offenders have no way of getting jobs, so they are on the street fucking it up for us
*All city workers have to watch the Mayor pay this incompetent damn fool $300,000.00 a year plus and they are praying not to loose their jobs after 20 years and they only get paid $34,000.00 a year.
Talk about that at your next press conference!
"good job to officers Sanchez, Diaz, Reyes and Rent who spotted the guy and gave chase."
HUH? How you figure? It became an HBT & he offed himself. Save the backslaps& Dept. Commendations for something more worthy than a chase & a doorslam.
2/21/2009 09:03:00 AM
the guy killed his girlfriend in colorado. the great job they did was recognizing the car on the street, giving chase, and didn't allow a murderer to go free.
you're an idiot.
So much for j-fed going to the media only a month ago to inform them that his new special units are already keeping the homicide rate down. What a dumd-ass.
MSF is a westside 'Citywide' unit. Got to love the contradiction of what a Citywide unit is. At least with SOS, they went all over to where the problems were.
SCC, your poster that said "if this would have been on the northside at college prep things would be different", like he11 they would be, murder is murder is murder. Whoever said that probably also thinks that the gun and "gun violence" are the culprits in these homicides.
Ok, so you put TRU, Saturation, Gang Units, MSF in 004 for a few week or two. But then that just leaves other districts to blow up.
If it's me. Just throw TRU there for a day or two.
SCC: Please make a topic that we are even with the number of homicides at the same period last year.
If the bus situation is stable, wait for the CTA supervisor to arrive.
I don't understand how this could have happened.
AK-47's are illegal in Cook County, and any fully automatic weapon is illegal in Illinois.
Hard to believe somebody could break the law and possess a weapon like this.
Check out the article in Chicago Magazine, March 2009, "Are Cameras Better Than Cops?" It seems that the citizens are noticing that arrests are down.
Anonymous said...
"good job to officers Sanchez, Diaz, Reyes and Rent who spotted the guy and gave chase."
HUH? How you figure? It became an HBT & he offed himself. Save the backslaps& Dept. Commendations for something more worthy than a chase & a doorslam.
2/21/2009 09:03:00 AM
The way I see it....
These officers failed to apprehend an armed violent offender. They allowed this offender to take a strong hold and keep police at bay for hours. Then the police carelessly left this crazed man alone to kill himself.
What a waste of manpower and resources.
The REAL police would have chased this nother fucker right into the house; booting the door with a size 12 warrant if necessary.
BUT... they would have gotten in trouble with the man-that-has-our back.
I was off my beat by about 6 blocks two weeks ago and they asked "Beat XXXX, what is your location right now?" They knew exactly where I was, probably a supervisor told them to watch me or something. Usual reasons, malcontent, don't take shit etc.
2/21/2009 06:57:00 PM
Yeah, you're so important and such a rebel that they are watching you at all times...you stroke!
Anonymous said...
4) at the scene, tens of gold stars, with no lines of command (and more than a few that have no idea what the hell is going on), gold star folks giving orders, to the opposite of orders given by some other gold star bosses just a few minutes earlier....
Its a good thing we all had these NIMS/TARA classes, so we all know who the incident commanders is. You have to take NIMS 100 & 700, big bosses have to take 200,300,400, 500 & 600. I would guess they weren't paying attention in their classes, huh??
Someone get the POD numbers and then check CLEAR to see if those cameras are even up.....
DorothyParker007 said...
we need the draft back take these punks off the street at 18. since the draft has stopped, gangs have increased.
2/21/2009 05:43:00 PM
Do you really want these idiots to be proficient with firearms?
My fear in this city I once loved, is that in no time your blog is going to be the last representative of the CPD standing.
It's taken too long but I'll voice my complaints, for all the good it will do.
Thank all of you for your efforts to keep us safe.
~A Citizen
On the HBT incident in 014, can any P.O. who was on scene justify this fact. That the offender was about to give up after the P.O.'s put a stop on his vehicle. Offender even dropped his gun to the ground. But some boss came running up on scene screaming (maybe 1460?) and spooked the guy. Causing the offender to retreive his gun and run inside the house?
He didn't try to give up, and he had two guns on him. The guy was spooked the moment he was in traffic in front of a squad car.
The guy killed himself, saving taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars and the victim's family the agony of a trial.
Oh, and all you "Real Police" naysayers who weren't on scene should take another swig and pass out.
"good job to officers Sanchez, Diaz, Reyes and Rent who spotted the guy and gave chase."
HUH? How you figure? It became an HBT & he offed himself. Save the backslaps& Dept. Commendations for something more worthy than a chase & a doorslam.
Fuck you hater. They spotted the car, pulled it over, chased the guy and kept him from shooting anyone else till HBT got there. Did a good job talking to him and keeping him calm. ALso the additional 014th dist officers cleared the area and secured the scene.
2/21/2009 09:03:00 AM
The way I see it....
These officers failed to apprehend an armed violent offender. They allowed this offender to take a strong hold and keep police at bay for hours. Then the police carelessly left this crazed man alone to kill himself.
What a waste of manpower and resources.
The REAL police would have chased this nother fucker right into the house; booting the door with a size 12 warrant if necessary.
BUT... they would have gotten in trouble with the man-that-has-our back.
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hey asshat you would have got killed The guy had 3 guns, was suicidal and had a death list in pocket. they chased him at 4:30 pm down kimball avenue during rush hour, people standing at bus stops. if this guy started shooting it would have been ugly. they isolated him and clear scene. swat, hbt, msf 4450, units from 017,011,018,25 did a fine job helping out.
later on that same night there was a hbt situation on 106 s. ewing
I used to work there 10 years ago and they were killing eachother there on 87th and escanaba like it was vietnam. The gang was called the latin dragons, they killed so much of them the ganfg just up and left because there numbers had been depleted to badly. So what I am trying to say is nothing new here move along please nothing to see here.
On the HBT incident in 014, can any P.O. who was on scene justify this fact. That the offender was about to give up after the P.O.'s put a stop on his vehicle. Offender even dropped his gun to the ground. But some boss came running up on scene screaming (maybe 1460?) and spooked the guy. Causing the offender to retreive his gun and run inside the house?
2/21/2009 03:33:00 PM
Nobody gives a fuck. Asshole is dead, by his own hand, case closed.
Eddie Trigggs! you mean DR DEATH!
There was a time when we had these "supernaturael'(sp) freaks on the job.
Now we have.... well you know
SCC can you publish a comment about 014 so they will shut the f-bomb up!
Good job guys. Talk about it in the Gin Mill or, take it one day at a time like we used to.
Write this one up as DEAD. ABC-TV news just this moment reported that Rachael Beauchamp has died.
The initial TV reports, interviews with police on-scene, did point up the fact that there were exchanges of words and hand signs before the shooting started; the vehicle was apparently not just innocently "traveling," as the Sun-Times story below seems to imply.
BREAK IT DOWN: 11:30 AT NIGHT (PAST CURFEW PARENTS), IN A CAR W/ TWO SIX GANG BANGERS, & FUCKING AROUND IN RIVAL SD HOOD.....HUM...DOESN'T SEEM SO INNOCENT..SORRY..
We need more help. More people MANNING BEAT CARS! Npt more for this unit or that detail. End the Saturation Team detail and send those people back to their districts. They are supposed to work for the Deputy Chief. If the Deputy Chief needs something, call the district Commander who is supposed to work for you and tell them what youneed done. Make out a yearly report that shows exactly what units like Gang Intelligence have accomplished. Have they proved their worth? If not, back they go to answer calls. How about this Search Warrant Team at the areas? Is that lawsuit heaven or what? It is a team that only does search warrants. WTF? My piont to all this is that you have to have more FIRST RESPONDERS than any other type of unit, team, BS, etc. you guys are implementing. Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians!
Gorman and Schmitz screwed up big time on that scene in 4 and they know how. Relegate your orders to only things around your desk. Let us real police do what we do best. Remember, we do this everyday...now go get me some coffee and get out of the crime scene.
PLEASE GET US SOME HELP BEFORE YOU ARE SHOT MR. CITIZEN.
This is to the copper who is calling out our dispatchers;
God forbid when you call an EMERGENCY and overmodulate into the radio the dispatcher wants to know where you are.
Yeah hand job, they should check the GPS instead of being the "lifeline" they are.
Make fun of them because they mis-pronounce words, give em crap when they ask "What are you chasing him for," but do not call them out for wanting your location so they can send help.
Man o man, what have we become?
Signed: Long enough to know, but young enough to still be stupid.
Anonymous said...
Someone get the POD numbers and then check CLEAR to see if those cameras are even up.....
2/21/2009 11:01:00 PM
They are and were, next comment. No matter how bad you try to make someone else look Deputy Chief DA, you just left that district not even 12 weeks ago. The District has inherited the residual of your incomptence and your Deputy Chief now turned Chief ways of protecting you in support of retired DS.
Anonymous said...
There's no time to fight crime when all our resources are currently delegated to sneaking into districts undetected and tracking down fax machine users.
2/21/2009 06:26:00 PM
Now that is the best comment on SCC!
How about the Commanders of those fucked up districts with no resources, no police and no real help go down to 35th Street, request a meeting with the Superintendent, or is that not possible because he and his wife are on vacation again right after 5 kids were killed this weekend, put your stars on the desk and simply say "until we get the supervisors we need to run this district effectively, that means sergeants, lieutenants and captains, until we get the correct amount of police officers to safely do the job, until we get the right amount of working cars, radios and PDT's, you run the fucking district yourself!" WTF, he gets paid what 3 Commanders get paid anyway!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
4) at the scene, tens of gold stars, with no lines of command (and more than a few that have no idea what the hell is going on), gold star folks giving orders, to the opposite of orders given by some other gold star bosses just a few minutes earlier....
Its a good thing we all had these NIMS/TARA classes, so we all know who the incident commanders is. You have to take NIMS 100 & 700, big bosses have to take 200,300,400, 500 & 600. I would guess they weren't paying attention in their classes, huh??
2/21/2009 10:58:00 PM
Thats my point, why have them all there trying to stick their chest out! As far as I can see, we were moving along as planned until DA thought it was up to him to tell my Commander EW what to do regarding the scene. Last I checked, you were never a Detective nor worked in the Detective Division. Fucking Jagoff!
I work in 014. I have for a long time. As far as bosses go, Cpt. Anderson gets an A. First, the third watch had the situation under control but she cared enough about their lives that she chose to not have the blue boys and girls on the ground move in for the ki_ _. Second, if you have any TRR or other nonsense she backs you 100%. Lastly, she allows time due generously. I heard the question about what the case report should be classified WHILE ON SCENE / ON VIEW. She answered it rationally. Leave her alone.
Signed,
Non hack, non clout, non kiss ass, non merit, who was on scene at the tip of the spear.
Got to love the contradiction of what a Citywide unit is. At least with SOS, they went all over to where the problems were.
Cool thing about SOS is when they went all over the city, they created problems where they weren't any to begin with. Got to love that contriDICKton.
On the HBT incident in 014, can any P.O. who was on scene justify this fact. That the offender was about to give up after the P.O.'s put a stop on his vehicle. Offender even dropped his gun to the ground. But some boss came running up on scene screaming (maybe 1460?) and spooked the guy. Causing the offender to retreive his gun and run inside the house?
He didn't try to give up, and he had two guns on him. The guy was spooked the moment he was in traffic in front of a squad car.
The guy killed himself, saving taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars and the victim's family the agony of a trial.
Oh, and all you "Real Police" naysayers who weren't on scene should take another swig and pass out.
2/22/2009 12:31:00 AM
So save us the agony of listening to you pat yourself on the back. No one cares about it. You almost had a warrant arrest, but you let him get away, forever. Fantastic work, now please shut the fuck up.
Eddie Welch is just another shining example of a merit/racial promotion who's in way over his head without clue. Barely capable of being the police much less a Commander. Thanks for another useless merit hack Isaac C.
Did the first responding police in 004 has the M4? The officers in 014 did not. Where are the M4's?
2/21/2009 12:14:00 PM
Locked up in the radio room collecting dust.
Hey shit lips, inert means inoperable. That means it doesn't work. Inanimate is the word you were looking for. If a weapon is rendered 'inert' it is incapable of firing, regardles, ie. a toy or fake gun. Inanimate means it is not alive and cannot make decisions on its own, therefore cannot kill on its own, ie, a rock, a bat or a gun.
Also, to the coppers in 014; job well done. This coward made the right decision, as neither an inert or ianimated object, to kill himself. He was out numbered, out gunned and out of options. He could have chosen to shoot it out with the officers, which could have gone terribly bad, instead he chose to end his pathetic existance.
Great job guys! One less burden to our society. You didn't violate rule #1: go home at the end of your shift.
MSF is a westside 'Citywide' unit. Got to love the contradiction of what a Citywide unit is. At least with SOS, they went all over to where the problems were.
They will now be playing in 8 since the Southside is totally lost.
The way I see it....
These officers failed to apprehend an armed violent offender. They allowed this offender to take a strong hold and keep police at bay for hours. Then the police carelessly left this crazed man alone to kill himself.
What a waste of manpower and resources.
The REAL police would have chased this nother fucker right into the house; booting the door with a size 12 warrant if necessary.
BUT... they would have gotten in trouble with the man-that-has-our back.
i agree... the door should have been booted for various reasons. you had perfect legal justification to do so with hot pursuit. second, how do you know that it was even his house and some poor family was about to be assasinated by this guy who was very dangerous. also, how do you know that this guy didnt have more firepower inside was was just getting ready to go upstairs and start picking anyone off with a high powered rifle. the officers did an ok job, but the door should have been kicked...they kind of dropped the ball when it came to that. if sh*t hit the fan in the house and it became a shoot out, then call hbt... there was no effort to take this guy into cusotody... remember kids, a closed door doesnt mean chase over... its just a fun extra piece of destruction you get to add to your day...hopefully these guys from 014 learned that they got lucky by not blowin the door in and waiting for hbt.... those actions put the hbt guys in danger and everyone on scene in danger... never let the bad guy fortify himself if he just ran inside...he could have had anything prepared in there with all the time he was given.
The last 15 years of the newly appointed police are doing it because they could not find a job else where. They are educated and really believe they should be doing something else, so they settled for this bullshit to pay the bills. I am a lieutenant, so I know. I deal with this shit everyday.
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You're a Lieutenant, so your job is to do crossword puzzles all day. And by your disjointed ramblings, you are merit for sure. (By the way, a person gets kicked to the curb, not the curve.)
What exactly are you responsible for, other than sucking off the commander so you can get a take home car as tact Lt? You make almost $100K per year for doing absolutely nothing. Your whole job exists as a bench for gold stars. Its entire existance is totally unneccessary, other than as punishment for gold stars that piss off the alderman.
The best way to improve this department would be to eliminate your job and make you go back to being 310.
We couldn't get a better job? You don't even have a job! You are a CPD Lieutenant. You are a hired political hack.
You'll only finally realize it when you're lying in your coffin at age 58.
It's funny how people refer to an HBT team and a SWAT team.
HBT is the job type; such as a Hostage situation or a Barricaded gunman.
SWAT is the team that responds to a HBT job.
Please make a note of this.
Anonymous said...
We are even with last year on homicides. Go back 5-10 years and we are still down, a lot. Violence is down almost everywhere except here. Well does moral effect policing? How many coppers out there have slowed down tremendously after their 5 years?
2/21/2009 02:22:00 PM
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A lot of that is due to the FACT that the SUBURBS are worst! The homicide NUMBERS there are climbing!
SOOOOOOOO add the homicides from surrounding chicagoland area suburbs to our numbers and there you have the REAL number of homicides that is reflected of the crap that USED to live and lives in our fair City!
Our suburbs have turned to SHIT! since the projects have COME DOWN and the yuppies have edged the shitheads out of their "old neighborhoods" they go tho the suburbs to SET UP and create safe havens away from the old hood!
Think logically!
Fuck you hater. They spotted the car, pulled it over, chased the guy and kept him from shooting anyone else till HBT got there. Did a good job talking to him and keeping him calm. ALso the additional 014th dist officers cleared the area and secured the scene.
2/22/2009 12:48:00 AM
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Ok they did the TEXT BOOK thing!
In the "old days" the jag would have been caught or shot but the responding guys.....
I think this is the problem with the department that EVERYONE is afraid of making a mistak when we never thought of those consequences in the "heat of the moment" before........
Just sayin'
"Fuck you hater. They spotted the car, pulled it over, chased the guy and kept him from shooting anyone else till HBT got there. Did a good job talking to him and keeping him calm. ALso the additional 014th dist officers cleared the area and secured the scene."
Keystone Kops. Perhaps they'll all get the Lambert Tree for the fine job they did.
Work on those self-esteem issues Adolescent
"PO that develops videos that helps us make arrests."
Really? Perhaps you should go back to being a Barista @ Starbucks if you need videos to be the Police
maybe they should stop counting deaths of gangbangers and other criminals in the murder stats.
being as its a public service and all.
DorothyParker007 said...
"we need the draft back take these punks off the street at 18. since the draft has stopped, gangs have increased.
2/21/2009 05:43:00 PM
Do you really want these idiots to be proficient with firearms?"
I'd have to say that based upon what I saw Friday aft. at 87th & Exchange, these UNDRAFTED youths are pretty Goddamn proficient already with firearms!!!!Maybe they SHOULD be the next block of "freedom fighters" we ship out to Afganistan!
"Work on those self-esteem issues Adolescent
2/22/2009 05:55:00 PM"
After you.
"2/22/2009 02:24:00 PM"
Ouch.
" So save us the agony of listening to you pat yourself on the back. No one cares about it. You almost had a warrant arrest, but you let him get away, forever. Fantastic work, now please shut the fuck up.
2/22/2009 11:42:00 AM"
Jealousy is still an ugly emotion.
"....he could have had anything prepared in there with all the time he was given.
2/22/2009 01:27:00 PM"
Second guessers are always so very sure of themselves.
Especially from behind their desks.
you can best bet that FAT GREASY SHORT BLOB of a Mayor can call all the shots after all he is SURROUNDED by "police" 24 hours a day. Id love to see this fat worthless prick along with his Superintend bitch Weis walk hand in hand down the East alley of Escanaba at 87th Street on a warm Friday night. You could probably follow the shit trail all the way back to City Hall.
Blow me Richie.
And Jody next time you Screw me can i get a reach around?
"2/22/2009 01:27:00 PM"
You know not of what you speak.
The right thing was done, fine job by all, you already knew he was armed, fools rush in, why kick the door when you already know he is armed and has the advantage on you, it was done perfectly.
Tombstome courage gets you killed, brains definitely prevailed here.
Anonymous said...
It's funny how people refer to an HBT team and a SWAT team.
HBT is the job type; such as a Hostage situation or a Barricaded gunman.
SWAT is the team that responds to a HBT job.
Please make a note of this.
2/22/2009 04:02:00 PM
stfu kid! tell leo thanks for all the bankers hours o.t. without regard to seniority at the airports, now go and sit down like a college kid who got bad grades!
You know not of what you speak.
2/22/2009 11:34:00 PM
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That's never stopped you.
The POD Cameras in vicinity of the Homicides WERE in Great Positions, so don't blame E-3. It ain't his fault if they don't work clearly, or are broken.
America is in the grips of a Nationwide Homicide Epidemic, eminating from the major-big Cities, and spreading out from there. Releasing Convicted Felons from Prison, like the recent releases in California, due to Financial difficulties caused by overspending politicians, will exasserbate matters, as other States are bound to follow Suit. Soon, if not already, Law Enforcement can concevibly be overrun. Civilian Readers especially, take note. If you don't want to Support your Police, and Law Enforcement here, and Nationwide, the economic problems you have now will soon become the LEAST of your problems, if these Savages cannot be effectively controlled.
The way I see it....
These officers failed to apprehend an armed violent offender. They allowed this offender to take a strong hold and keep police at bay for hours. Then the police carelessly left this crazed man alone to kill himself.
What a waste of manpower and resources.
The REAL police would have chased this nother fucker right into the house; booting the door with a size 12 warrant if necessary.
BUT... they would have gotten in trouble with the man-that-has-our back.
i agree... the door should have been booted for various reasons. you had perfect legal justification to do so with hot pursuit. second, how do you know that it was even his house and some poor family was about to be assasinated by this guy who was very dangerous. also, how do you know that this guy didnt have more firepower inside was was just getting ready to go upstairs and start picking anyone off with a high powered rifle. the officers did an ok job, but the door should have been kicked...they kind of dropped the ball when it came to that. if sh*t hit the fan in the house and it became a shoot out, then call hbt... there was no effort to take this guy into cusotody... remember kids, a closed door doesnt mean chase over... its just a fun extra piece of destruction you get to add to your day...hopefully these guys from 014 learned that they got lucky by not blowin the door in and waiting for hbt.... those actions put the hbt guys in danger and everyone on scene in danger... never let the bad guy fortify himself if he just ran inside...he could have had anything prepared in there with all the time he was given.
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Ok your stupid comment shows that you were not there.. and are playing monday night quaterback.
Listen here Rex Grossman...
These officers did a very fine job. They couldn't shoot because responding officers were in the crossfire, it was during rush hour, on a major ave. with people all over the street and waiting at bus stops, and they already knew the guy was suicidal. The officers had previous knowledge that no one was in the residence. Two other officers responded there the day before, told the brother to leave, contacted the FBI and they put the information out to be read at roll call, which probably save the life of any officer stopping this guy.
The guy barricaded himself in the vesitbule, and the door was a distorted glass front. He had two guns in hand and had an actual death wish list in his pocket with his gf's name, who he already murdered, crossed off. One officer was working with a PPO and any experienced officer knows that can sometimes make a situation even more risky. But luckily the PPO did very well, no one was hurt. This was an all around team effort by everyone who responded including the outside units.
From the Shitcago Libune Letters To The Editor:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/letters/chi-090223berardi_briefs,0,7695643.story
Daley’s failing gun laws
February 23, 2009
This is in regards to Mayor Richard Daley's remark in "Burris questioned in Blagojevich probe," (Chicagoland, Feb. 22), when he was asked about Sen. Roland Burris and he replied: "Three people got killed [last night]. Do you think the people who killed them care who is their U.S. senator?"
No, Mayor Daley, they do not care. They also do not care that so-called assault weapons are banned both in Chicago and Cook County, actual assault weapons have been severely restricted since 1934. They also do not care that it was illegal for them to own any type of firearm in Illinois without a Firearm Owners Identification (FOID) card, or that it is illegal to discharge a weapon within the city limits. They also do not care that they most likely are too young to own a firearm by federal statutes. They also do not care that that is illegal to commit murder and the many other laws they surely broke.
This leads me to ask you a question Mayor Daley: If they do not care about breaking the multiple laws that they did, why do you think the solution is to pass yet another law--a ban on so-called assault weapons that they will also ignore?
Mayor, it's time to admit that your long-time push for tougher and tougher gun laws is simply a failure. It's way past time that you have the political courage to attack the true causes of violent crime in Chicago: gangs, drugs, poverty and the dismal failure of the Chicago school system, just to name a few.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
It's funny how people refer to an HBT team and a SWAT team.
HBT is the job type; such as a Hostage situation or a Barricaded gunman.
SWAT is the team that responds to a HBT job.
Please make a note of this.
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Please make a note of the fact that our on call "SWAT" team used to be called HBT. The guy who called them that probably had more than 2 years on the job, junior.
WHAT THE F..K!!! 016 has this PO that develops videos that helps us make arrests. Today, I ask the guy to do a video for me, and he tells me he can't, he got dumped to a car. This is the same guy that did the video that helped find that 3 yr old girl from CVS. He helps solve crimes and gets dumped "what the fuck".
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The commander in 016did not dump video guy, the inspectors were in the district last week with copies of A&A sheets making sure that everyone was where they belong. His position is not an official position therefore by orders from downtown he was ordered back into a car.
This is to the copper who is calling out our dispatchers;
God forbid when you call an EMERGENCY and overmodulate into the radio the dispatcher wants to know where you are.
Yeah hand job, they should check the GPS instead of being the "lifeline" they are.
Make fun of them because they mis-pronounce words, give em crap when they ask "What are you chasing him for," but do not call them out for wanting your location so they can send help.
Man o man, what have we become?
Signed: Long enough to know, but young enough to still be stupid.
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Yo, the comment was not to "dis" dispatchers or make fun of them. We all know the dispatch job is just as demanding as being out in the street. The comment was to determine if and how the GPS is working for both officer and dispatcher.
"Someone please post the phone number fro the olympic committee so we can all call and tell them how dangerous this city is and give them info. that has been kept from them."
-- 2/21/2009 07:31:00 AM
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This is a very sad day, even when gang banging kids are killed, they are still kids.
I saw the Commander on the news, he is fine as hell! Where have you been? I have never seen before. I am heading to 004. Don't worry Commander Carter, you have our support.
Anonymous said...
I saw the Commander on the news, he is fine as hell! Where have you been? I have never seen before. I am heading to 004. Don't worry Commander Carter, you have our support.
2/23/2009 10:53:00 PM
Our district has enough of folks like you, get a life! Looks more like you should be hanging around 35th. I know at list 4 bosses that would give you the time of day.
Great job to the officers in the 4th District for containing the scene and gathering witnesses. We could not have made this much progress in this little time if it were not for your asssitance. Thanks to our Commander Eddie Welch for giving us the freedom and latitude to do our job. Thanks to Commander Carter for running interference for us on the scene, that took a lot of guts. Now this is an example of good police work.
An Area 2 Detective - No cracks please
I was raised on the 8700 Block of South Escanaba Ave. Hard working men of Easteran European stock went to work at South Works and took care of their homes and families. It's obvious to anyone who really wants to accept the truth what has happened here. The crimiinal element that is so much a part of the African American culture has ruined yet another fine neighborhood.
Yes I said it "Ruined by African Americans." To those of you who can't handle the truth SCREW YOU. It's played out everyday in every city across this once great country. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM - FACE UP TO IT!!!!!
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