Thursday, March 19, 2009

Poll Results

Is this a little better sampling than the FOP vote that "only" had 160 participants?

  • Do You, a Reader of the Second City Cop blog, have any confidence in the leadership of Jody Weis?

    No 91% 2323 Votes
    Yes 9% 224 Votes

Let's see...
  • about 16 times the FOP meeting totals;
  • 18% of the purported 13,500 - but 25% of the more realistic 10,000;
  • not quite unanimous, but definitely a landslide;
And we had a couple lines of code embedded in the poll that was supposed to limit voting to one per IP address so that it wouldn't get overwhelmed by repeaters, so it's reasonably reflective the readership.

UPDATE: The graphic is a mess. We're trying to fix it. You can still vote down a few posts or just CLICK HERE.

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100 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let’s get this straight. The police take a no confidence vote in their leader. People are getting shot and killed mostly in minority areas of the city by minorities. Ceasefire is mostly a minority organization, which for the most part is useless. Father Flagler (sp?) and other reverends take kids out of school to demonstrate in Springfield for stricter gun laws. This is very confusing? They are trying to take away my gun? How are I and the rest of the good citizens of this city going to defend themselves? WTF people. No leadership anywhere in this city and IT’S THE GUNS FAULT. TOTAL INSANATY.

3/19/2009 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get rid of Ike Carothers who should be going to jail real soon and his sorry excuse for a Tact Lieutenant brother Tony Carothers. He has never worked Tact nor the street. He has never gotten promoted off of a test. Clout baby to the end. His wife has a city job also.

3/19/2009 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is all by design, to move his federal agent buddy to Chief. THat is what, a $24,000.00 pay raise! We smell you Jfed!

3/19/2009 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the way home WLS 890 reported that "only 2% of the patrolmen rank" voted against J-Fraud and the mayor fully supports him. Nice media spin.

I also noticed that J-Fraud himself slipped and said there are only 8,000 patrolmen...oops. Check the Channel 7 that aired at 6PM for that one.

3/19/2009 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I had a nightmare, Daley replaced J-Fed with Huberman!

3/19/2009 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh man!!!

I hope this doesn't effect the MSF. I'd truly hate to go back to 007 that place is doomed. Last bids had 20 plus trying to get out on 1st watch alone

3/19/2009 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blah blah blah...J-Fed still gets his $310,000 salary and really doesn't care ~ why don't you poll for a vote of confidence for FOP?

3/19/2009 05:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our fearless leader says more training is going to make us happy. Ok boss I will go to my kids private school and tell them I cant pay the tuition but I am really well versed in the use of force model.

3/19/2009 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No surprise. He still gets paid, though, so do you think he gives a shit?

3/19/2009 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-Fed says that the "silent majority" of the rank and file support him.

Huh?

3/19/2009 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous An Old Sergeant said...

Did you notice where, in his stellar support of his chosen one, the Mayor referred to the Supt. as "a civilian"? Truer words were never spoken. Aand by the way, Mr. Civilian, lose the uniform.

3/19/2009 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"He's a very good, honest superintendent," Daley said.

Let's break that down. He's very good? By what measure?

Honest? I didn't know that graft in the Supt's office was one of the problems that the administration had to fix.

Do you want to try and say something that tells us any less about the man? You can't!

3/19/2009 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you see this SCC - this morning's breaking news?

"Cook County, home to Chicago, was the second-most populous county in the country, with 5.3 million residents."

I don't have a college degree, but if the populous increases, shouldn't the amount of police officers to serve and protect the populous increase?

I've been on the job over 28 years, and I have heard the number 13,500 since day one. I don't know, what was the populous in 1981, 2 or 3 million?

3/19/2009 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous da WEISel said...

"...because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggone it, people like me."

3/19/2009 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For whatever its worth, I did a quick google and found this.

"Cook County--the region's densely populated inner county--grew 5.3% between 1990 and 2000. By far the most populous county in Illinois, Cook County’s count stood at 5,376,741 on Census Day 2000. It's net population change of 271,674 was greater than that for any other county in Illinois."

Doubled our jurisdiction in 9 years?

3/19/2009 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about a poll on the evil, black-hearted, diabolical mope Shortshanks?

3/19/2009 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Bob said...

Wow. 91 to 9 percent. The only people who usually get election numbers like that are Saddam Hussein (100%), Kim Jong Il (100%) or Richard M. Daley (71% of the vote, 100% of the wards).

The Police Superintendent has a little catching up to do.

3/19/2009 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Police Superintendent has a little catching up to do.

But at least he's in good company.

3/19/2009 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all you have to do is go to a roll call and everyone from the captain on down believes this guy is a total moron. when they played the "we make mistakes" video everyone was laughing so hard i nearly pissed my pants. the battle hardened street cops saw right thru this carpetbagger-- definitely a no confidence vote-- a total disaster. remember, he also deep sixed the hierarchy of this dept-- telling deputies you are now a lieutenant again-- most of them called him on it and left-- now what is left after he is gone ???????????

3/19/2009 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

look, I think this poll is better than the 160 that was taken before. But, I am sick of the dance! The city and jfed keep saying 13500. What is the exact number the city knows and so does our freakin union!! The fop must correct jfed and king daley everytime they spew a bs number! SCC you do a great job and I think its about time you demand that the fop tells the real number! Keep up the good work!!

3/19/2009 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Get rid of Ike Carothers who should be going to jail real soon and his sorry excuse for a Tact Lieutenant brother Tony Carothers. He has never worked Tact nor the street. He has never gotten promoted off of a test. Clout baby to the end. His wife has a city job also.

3/19/2009 12:24:00 AM

Hope they close the acse on him and "take him to disneyland soon"! Then scoop up the other 49,top it all off with the daley crime family,toss stroger and madigan we then have a treat! Anyone who is close to sleepy ike should be very careful including a certain police driver!

3/19/2009 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For whatever its worth, I did a quick google and found this.

"Cook County--the region's densely populated inner county--grew 5.3% between 1990 and 2000. By far the most populous county in Illinois, Cook County’s count stood at 5,376,741 on Census Day 2000. It's net population change of 271,674 was greater than that for any other county in Illinois."

Doubled our jurisdiction in 9 years?

3/19/2009 08:04:00 AM

And it's because of these numbers that the moron democrats keep getting elected in this state. The largest voting pool in this state comes from cook county. The biggest drain on society comes from the mopes in cook county, the stupidest laws come from cook county and strangely enough, the highest taxes in the nation come from no other than cook county. Keep working people, millions on welfare depend on it. Every county further than 100 air miles from this shit hole should annex from this state and try to save themselves.

3/19/2009 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>"Cook County--the region's densely populated inner county--grew 5.3% between 1990 and 2000. By far the most populous county in Illinois, Cook County’s count stood at 5,376,741 on Census Day 2000. It's net population change of 271,674 was greater than that for any other county in Illinois."

Doubled our jurisdiction in 9 years?

3/19/2009 08:04:00 AM<<<

WHO ARE ALL THESE PEOPLE?

How many of them are PAYING TAXES? How many of them are putting ANCHOR KIDS into PUBLIC SCHOOLS? How many of them are filling our HEALTH CARE FACILITIES? Our JAIL? How many of them are clogging our roads with UNLICENCED UNINSURED DRIVERS? How many of them are in SECTION 8 HOUSING?

That's the "SCANTUARY CITY" for you! Thank-you Richard M. Daley, Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Barack Obama and all the rest.

Pay your taxes America, 22 million illegal aliens are depending on you!

3/19/2009 09:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry SCC I made a typo on the populous, it should have said 10 million today,not 5.

3/19/2009 09:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He said that there are 13,500 sworn personnel! With what mirrors?

Can some investigative reporter, prove that he knowingly lied to the public, embarass the shit out of him so that he is forced to resign.

3/19/2009 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Representative votes J-pud.

Unit reps generally attend those meetings...

you know like the city council.

But , yes, I agree with the pud, 160 is insignificant just like the few numbers of nanny staters who run this city.

BUT...

Isn't there a much larger governed body of citizens ruled by so few in municipal government. Does J-pud think this is insignifant too?

Daley thinks it's all cookoo.
Get back to paving Washington Park jouse guys. Yeah, an don't use dat crap cold patch like we uses on da soud side.

3/19/2009 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I had a nightmare, Daley replaced J-Fed with Huberman!

3/19/2009 12:58:00 AM



No, he needs more time to put the fork in the CPS.

3/19/2009 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Did you see this SCC - this morning's breaking news?

"Cook County, home to Chicago, was the second-most populous county in the country, with 5.3 million residents."




That includes the illegals?

3/19/2009 10:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why all the confusion over just how many police offiers are actually on the job. We have mandatory FOP dues checkoff. The FOP should have a precise number of just how many P/Os and Dets. are being checked off.

3/19/2009 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What FOP REALLY needs to do is send out a citywide petition like we did in the 1990's with Matt "THE RAT" Rodriguez.

When that went out it made a LARGE impact with the media.
It eventually became his downfall.

3/19/2009 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3/19/2009 12:12:00 AM said: Ceasefire is mostly a minority organization,

The ethnic make-up of this organization really isn't the issue. The issue is financial mismanagement, gangbangers who are still gangbangers.
Ineffective results.

3/19/2009 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are all the readers of your blog (and all the voters in this poll) REALLY CPD police officers? How can you prove it?

3/19/2009 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anonymous talking about Chicago's population growth...

Chicago (the actual city, not the whole of Cook County) had just over 3 million people in 1980. In the 2000 census, there were just under 2.89 million people living in the city. When the 2010 Census figures are released, It may be even lower according to recent estimates.

In other words, since 1980 the population served by the Chicago Police Department has actually decreased by around 110,000 civilians. Ignoring all other factors, the Chicago Police Force should also have been reduced accordingly. Of course, it could be argued that there is more crime now than in 1980. I don't have easily identifiable statistics on that.

3/19/2009 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...because I'm good enough, I'm smart enough and doggone it, people like me."

3/19/2009 08:01:00 AM
That was hilarious!

3/19/2009 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous where's my contract? said...

Anonymous said...
Well,
I work at Hq and I for one love Superintendent Weiss.
Why just today I was noting the aura almost electric air of strength and confidence that ripples off his highly developed pecks and lats.
Sure, I've had to do things I hope my mother never finds out about to get this assignment, and I know how you working partolmen call this place fort fellatio, but, I'm inside, I have weekends off, and I get paid the same as you.
I love the administration of this dept, and I hope they are here a long time. They have my utmost confidence.

3/18/2009 09:53:00 AM

He was a nervous sort. Appears uncertain at handling the media.
His slippage on 8K POs is a fine indicator.

And of course mayor dimwits has to support him; he's a product of his political loins. When the mayor shits, it smells like weis.

3/19/2009 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lest see our state taxes just wnet up 50 percent. Our medical with the new contract will go up 30 percent. Basically we are not getting a raise of any kind.

3/19/2009 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From 13,500 originally admitted to now 8,000 in just one day, priceless...HELLO media, WAKE UP F.O.P.!

3/19/2009 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe if the state and city didnt allow illegal aliens to eat the state out of house and home, we wouldnt need to raise the taxes! The population is skyrocketing because of the sons and daughters of illegals.

3/19/2009 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Cook County, home to Chicago, was the second-most populous county in the country, with 5.3 million residents."

**************************
AND A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT NUMBER IS MOSTLY ILLEGALS THAT HAVE FLOODED THE AREA AND SUCKING UP ALL OUR RESOURCES THAT THE TAX PAYING CITIZENS ARE WORKING HARD FOR. IF EVERYONE OF THOSE 5.3 MILLION WAS WORKING AND PAYING THEIR TAXES AND MAKING AN HONEST LIVING WE WOULDN'T BE IN THIS ECONOMIC MESS. LOOK AT HOW CALIFORNIA IS ABOUT TO GO BANKRUPT! I WANDER WHY?

3/19/2009 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much do you want to bet that the 9% is entirely ass kissing house mouses or liberal pukes that read this blog for fodder for their "intellectual conversations." In any case, 292 MORONS!

3/19/2009 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I also heard Weis on TV and Radio say the number of patrolmen was 8,000.

And if 8,000 is close to being correct, you know about 500 (maybe more) are house mice or suckups, scattered across 25 dist's, office staff's, administration spots. and units who would do anything to protect their spot.

That leaves us around 7,500 divided by 25 dist's = 300 per dist, divided by 3 watches = 100 per watch, minus 25% on days off, furlo, medical, time due, etc.,so we end up with 45 to 65 per shift (high end if low medical roll), which is barely enough to cover all the assignments, and special assignments that each dist. has.

And we know that each DC had his "Special Assignments" that he has to have a car assigned to (per the alderman or the ADS), and the building security issues.

And we know that the midnight shift is the least likely to be fully staffed and has the youngest officers who don't have the time to bid off that shift.

So we end up with 1 man cars, no wagons, 1 Sgt. on the street, totally undermanned watches, down cars by the dozens, and bad working conditions.

Working cops know this is so true!

But Weis does not see any of this, nor do most of our citizens who follow the mayor like lemmings.

Sorry for getting off track;

It was in a clip of him leaving a meeting (unknown location) and walking fast.

Maybe he is really telling the truth for once. Or maybe it was an un-intentional slip of the truth?

Ald. Burke said it was just a small number of officers and that in any organization, a small number of workers will not like the boss, trying to downplay the stats.

Shanks said about the same thing.

As a regular attendee of union meetings, the house was packed. The usual attendance is around 55 to 70.

We will never get 1,000 or more to show up, unless they are allowed to go while working with pay.

If we had 4,000 or 6,000 show up, the city would close down, and the meeting would have to be at the United Center. Maybe that's what we need to do, everyone go to a meeting on the same day?

We are not plumbers or electricians who only work days and can attend at night.

That's why we have a representative who is suppose to go and air our views and report back to each unit and watch.

The high attendance was a result of officers being tired of waiting for news on the contract negotiations, the supt. not having our backs, and working conditions in general, and not for free beer or pizza.

I'm done working for this city, I need my Grape Drink.

3/19/2009 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Cook County, home to Chicago, was the second-most populous county in the country, with 5.3 million residents."

I don't have a college degree, but if the populous increases, shouldn't the amount of police officers to serve and protect the populous increase?

I've been on the job over 28 years, and I have heard the number 13,500 since day one. I don't know, what was the populous in 1981, 2 or 3 million?
-----------------------------------
The numbers from 1990 Census: 3,485,398 and 2000 Census:3,694,820show that the city gained 209,422 people during that span. Reliable estimates put the current city at around 3.8 to 3.9 million. If you use 3 million as the 1980 population total and the number of officers as 13,500 it equals 1 officer for about every 222 people. Extrapolating that ratio out to the estimate of 3.8 million
(3.8 million/222) you get 17,117. City population also ignores the the immense amount of people who travel into the city daily so figure between 70-200,000. There's no two ways about it, the department is under a plan to shrink the size and scope of police in Chicago.

O/T
Anyone else see the story on WGN this morning questioning whether Daley is ignoring the needs of the city as a whole in order to fix up spots for the IOC to see.

3/19/2009 03:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do agree that J-fed is not able to do this job has he has surrounded him self with goof balls like Peterson, Hamilton, Cuello, the commander of 003, ect. J-Fed has done nothing to encourage working coppers to work. Cozzi, the other guy who rightfully gave the shoplifter a crack after getting cut by a razor, has made every copper I know rethink their lot in Patrol. When the ranks are down he created ANOTHER SOS and change the name to MSF so Commander Rouso can act like he's still in Iraq is crazy. BUT, a vote of NO confidence while you await a new contract was reckless.

3/19/2009 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Officers, I realize that I am interrupting comments regarding the Superintendent, I apologize, and will not wade into that discussion at this time.

This morning my family needed the assistance of the police, badly.

When you think it can only happen to other people, guess what, it can happen to anyone, at anytime, often without warning.

We called you fine men and women this morning and the response was overwhelming.

Within 3 minutes there there were
3 cars, and the cavalry was on the way, by the time the situation was resolved, there were 15 cars, beat cars, tact cars, a det. or two, the sgt. and even a car from neighborhood relations.

Now I know 16 gets a lot of grief on this site, but from what I observed today, and in the past, they were on the ball.

It was great and much appreciated.

We have tried to say thanks to everyone personally, but you never get to shake every hand, or look in every eye, so I came on here, to say thank you.

If I can ever repay the kindness, please feel free to call.

Kevin O'Rourke

3/19/2009 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the Carothers should be gone period. One more useless than the next. Take Ed Smith with you while you're at it. Racist police-hating hypocrite.

3/19/2009 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

224 votes? Hmmm...i think that covers the useless do nothings that he takes care of at 35th street and those that he blindly promoted. The number makes sense.

3/19/2009 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger Det. Shaved Longcock said...

I think your poll was rigged S.C.C.

I saw that Jody Weis received a 98.9% favorable rating at

Body Builders Who Wax All Their Body Hair Off And Who Look Like A Hillbilly Serial Killer's Website.


How do you explain this difference in opinion?

3/19/2009 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
For whatever its worth, I did a quick google and found this.

"Cook County--the region's densely populated inner county--grew 5.3% between 1990 and 2000. By far the most populous county in Illinois, Cook County’s count stood at 5,376,741 on Census Day 2000. It's net population change of 271,674 was greater than that for any other county in Illinois."

Doubled our jurisdiction in 9 years?

3/19/2009 08:04:00 AM

Too bad the growth wasn't from the tax payer. The population grouth is unfortunately from the dead beat non-taxpayer who only takes but never returns. The tax payer has been leaving Chicago to go to a more deserving city.

3/19/2009 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous A/3 Bunny said...

Silent majority?

Since when were any of us silent about anything. Cops love to bitch by nature!

3/19/2009 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I noticed every time we are in contract negoiations, FOP always deflects the attention off themselves & goes on the attack discredting someone else. Hey Marky, tell us what was on the table last year as far as raises you turned down? Come on, big mouth, tell your officers how you screwed them out of reasonable increases now off the table.

3/19/2009 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am very glad Jody Weiss is the Superintendant of the Chicago Police Department. Unfortunately way too many police officers have been arrested and gone to prison for gross misconduct. This proves that an outsider who is beyond reproach with impecable credentials as a former federal agent was sorely needed to provide adult supervision to the department.

3/19/2009 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Random thoughts here....I can certainly understand the "no confidence" vote with regard to Weis. Granted, he's a tool. But the real issue here with those of us who care about this Dept....is
DALEY. Who hired Weis? Who stuck Masters in there as "senior advisor" to Weis? Where has this dept. gone over the past year? It's fallen faster than the space shuttle Columbia. Daley should be ashamed, as should the public, that a once proud Dept. is now a complete and utter joke to the entire US. We as Dept. members should make sure we inform the public that even moreso than having an incompetent fool for a Supt., we have a Mayor who has shown over the past year that he is more than content to allow the men and women of this Dept. to go out and do their jobs with unacceptable equipment, and to work out of facilities in which his own police officers aren't secure. Shame on Daley...and shame on all of us, for believing that Weis is at the top of this bullshit. It may well be time for us to step up and conduct informational picketing to inform the public that Daley has permitted unaceptable conditions to become the norm here, and we simply AREN'T GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE. Time for a change here in Chicago politics too....We ARE a professional police dept., and it's time we had politicians here who think we're worth supporting so that we can actually go out into these dangerous pockets and DO OUR JOBS. Enough is enough!

3/19/2009 06:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just watch... Ike Carothers is going to jail! Its already a done deal. The Feds have him and he is well aware of this....... Just a matter of time. Its certain SCC..

3/19/2009 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our fearless leader says more training is going to make us happy. Ok boss I will go to my kids private school and tell them I cant pay the tuition but I am really well versed in the use of force model.

3/19/2009 06:09:00 AM

Training is overtime (sometimes)

More importantly, training looks good on a resume so that we can lateral transfer the hell off of this sinking ship to Las Vegas or Cheyenne or some other place where the city likes its cops.

3/19/2009 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
224 votes? Hmmm...i think that covers the useless do nothings that he takes care of at 35th street and those that he blindly promoted. The number makes sense.

3/19/2009 04:06:00 PM

Yeah, if they all voted five times a piece it makes sense.

3/19/2009 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weis didn't say there were 8000 POs. He said there were 8000 FOP members.

3/19/2009 07:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/03/daley-pension-probe-chicago-inspector-general.html


http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/03/aldermen-let-private-guards-write-tickets.html


http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/03/state-pledges-funding-for-2016-games.html

3/19/2009 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The SUPE hopefully can see the writing on the wall.He should do the right thing and allocate necessary resources TO TAX PAYING CITIZENS I.E. 22 & 16.Hey boss have you figured out that the MAYOR is setting you up?Take your $900,000.00 and tell the grandstanding alderman YOU ARE THE BOSS and make them accountable to THEIR WARDS ONLY! TO STAND UP TO THESE DIRTBAGS WOULD GARNER YOU 100% APPROVAL.

3/19/2009 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

psst.... King fuckhead is on the way down. shucchhhhh!

3/19/2009 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"BUT, a vote of NO confidence while you await a new contract was reckless.

3/19/2009 03:50:00 PM"


It was well within the risk to reward ratio.

If you have any idea of what the reward would be.

3/19/2009 08:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If I can ever repay the kindness, please feel free to call.

Kevin O'Rourke

3/19/2009 03:56:00 PM"


If you're ever called for Grand Jury Duty, and the subject(s)/target(s) is/are any city or county politician(s), can we count on you voting a True Bill to Indict?

3/19/2009 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, I was driving home this afternoon around 1530 hours and at 63rd. and Rockwell, I saw 8-10 guys wearing Cease Fire T-Shirts and they had a design on each of their t-shirt's that loooked suspiciously like "CHALKIE" anyone else in 007 or 008 see these guys? or was I just having a dream.
Just a Old Gresham Ranger

3/19/2009 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do You, a Reader of the Second City Cop blog, have any confidence in the leadership of Jody Weis?

No.

Is that a change from the previous Superintendent?

No.

The one before that?

No.

The one you expect to get when Weis leaves?

No.

3/19/2009 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DEPT CHEIF SPECIAL "K" WANT THE 001 DISTRICT TO BE A TRAINING DISTRICT. I STILL CAN'T SEE WHAT HE WANTS THEM TO BE TRAINED ON. SHOULD PUT THIS AS TOPIC SCC...

3/19/2009 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgts, Lts and Capts met with city about contract yesterday or today...............Guess what? City has pulled all raises off the table. They are only offering the medical coverage at 55 no raises at all!!!!! Buckle yourselves in boys and girld this is going to be intersting.

3/19/2009 08:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aldermen: let private guards write tickets
March 19, 2009 6:57 PM | 1 Comment |
Two South Side aldermen are drafting an ordinance to allow private security firms to write minor citations now handled by sworn police officers, one of the aldermen said today.

Ald. Anthony Beale (9th) said private security firms have been hired by two commercial-district organizations in his ward and that of Ald. John Pope (10th). In the 9th Ward, armed guards for those firms already patrol 103rd Street from State Street to Corliss Avenue as well as Michigan Avenue between 100th and 116th Streets, he said.
This is nice replace us all

3/19/2009 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Get rid of Ike Carothers who should be going to jail real soon and his sorry excuse for a Tact Lieutenant brother Tony Carothers. He has never worked Tact nor the street. He has never gotten promoted off of a test. Clout baby to the end. His wife has a city job also.

______________________________________

He must be doing something right because his guy's are always working!

3/19/2009 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic:

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/03/aldermen-let-private-guards-write-tickets.html

3/19/2009 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does it really fucking matter? The mayor picks the boss we don't, so who fucking cares?

3/19/2009 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What happened Kevin O'Rourke? I don't work in 016 but thanks for the kind words.

3/19/2009 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
look, I think this poll is better than the 160 that was taken before. But, I am sick of the dance! The city and jfed keep saying 13500. What is the exact number the city knows and so does our freakin union!! The fop must correct jfed and king daley everytime they spew a bs number! SCC you do a great job and I think its about time you demand that the fop tells the real number! Keep up the good work!!

3/19/2009 09:18:00 AM


The 160 were the FOP leadership and Unit Reps and Watch Reps overwhelmingly. Who else goes to Union Meetings?

The 160 represented many thousands more.

3/19/2009 09:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago (the actual city, not the whole of Cook County) had just over 3 million people in 1980. In the 2000 census, there were just under 2.89 million people living in the city. When the 2010 Census figures are released, It may be even lower according to recent estimates.

In other words, since 1980 the population served by the Chicago Police Department has actually decreased by around 110,000 civilians. Ignoring all other factors, the Chicago Police Force should also have been reduced accordingly. Of course, it could be argued that there is more crime now than in 1980. I don't have easily identifiable statistics on that.

3/19/2009 11:48:00 AM
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I believe you will see the population of the actual city has gone UP. Between illegals (who, yes, are counted, as the census helps determine a city's actual need for services) and young people who moved into the city right after college in the last ten years, I'd bet my next paycheck the number goes up.

Crime, however, HAS gone up and we do have numbers on that. With two generations having been raised with zero respect for authority or boundaries, it's clear that both property and violent crime have grown.

Add to that the fact that new categories of crime have cropped up. Who ever heard of identity theft 25 years ago? Who ever heard of criminals putting a 'For Sale' sign on someone else's vacant lot to make a quick ten grand down payment on property they didn't own? Have you EVER seen the amount of crime against the elderly and the youngest of children that we see now? Don't forget to factor in the crimes of desperation a poor economy breeds.

Not to mention, we are desperately shorthanded and have nowhere near the number of sworn (all the way up the ranks) the ivory tower claims we have.

3/19/2009 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:
Study ranks Illinois among worst for personal freedoms
March 10, 2009 11:11 AM |

If you like your personal freedom, Illinois is not for you. Chicago Bungalow shows that Illinois fared badly in a study by George Mason University's Mercatus Center. The study ranked American states on the level of economic, social and personal freedom.

Illinois ranked 29th for economic freedom, 42nd for overall freedom and 49th for personal freedom. Chicago Bungalow writes, "We all know that corruption costs the citizens of Illinois money, and lots of it. But is the government intrusiveness characteristic of Illinois Democrats also costing us our freedom and our ability to prosper?"

3/19/2009 09:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Jody you also promised to make 85 new detectives. Now we hear that none might be made and if they do it will be a very small class no where near the 85 you promised. Another reason for a vote of no confidence!!!!!!

3/19/2009 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT



http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-parking-meters-20-mar20,0,7767927.story?page=1



Funny story on the new parking meter fees

3/19/2009 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

Pension news

Chicago pension probe: City inspector targets ties to Mayor Richard Daley

Millions were invested with DV Urban Realty Partners, a firm formed by a top Daley ally Allison Davis and Daley nephew Robert Vanecko

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-pension-probe-20-mar20,0,5574163.story

3/19/2009 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Thanks to the traffic officer in 001 for the pimpy parking ticket you stuck on my window right next to my FOP and St. Jude's stickers. You're doing an awesome job. Da Mayor thanks you!

3/19/2009 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"How much do you want to bet that the 9% is entirely ass kissing house mouses or liberal pukes that read this blog for fodder for their "intellectual conversations." In any case, 292 MORONS!"
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I have never had a desk job, never worked in headquarters, & I am only a street detective. Guess what, the man has done a decent and good job.

He got rid of bosses who thought their shit did not stink. I seen 9 supt of police come and go. Supt. WEIS ranks # 1. He does not control the city hall. He runs this department.

You imbiciles know no respect for the "Man" that runs this department. He took the job and probadly regrets it in having to deal with cry-babies.

The Supt. has silently help quite a few copper's on the department without making it public.

The F.O.P is blowing dirt around to throw us off on the real issue they screwed up, our CONTRACT.

For all you beefer's, call or send this gentleman an e-mail. I bet you will be surprised and DISCOVER he is a decent man. But then again, you will keep rapping him on this blog.

3/20/2009 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off Topic:

From WWW.chicagobreakingnews.com site "Pension Probe: Inspector eyes Daley ties"

I.G. Davis Hoffman has subpoenaed records from several city pension funds.

Including the Police pension fund.

They are examining all the business done with DV Urban Realty Partners, that's the firm owned by Davis and Vanecko (Daley's newphew)

Of course the reporter asks Police pension fund executive director John Gallagher (political Daley hack)about it.He would only say that DV Urban has only drawn $5 million of funds from the original $15 million commitment. At the end of last year that $5 million investment in DV is now valued at $3.5 million.He declined further comment.

NO SUPRISE THERE! We all knew it was a bad investment, but the sheep elected by us went along with it anyway because thats what Daley wanted.

At least now Mike Shields has our backs!

3/20/2009 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F---your F.O.P. sticker. Park in a legal spot. You are part of the problem.

3/20/2009 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can rip Jody for just about everything but when it comes to when or how many are promoted or hired he has no say so, it comes from the Mayors Office of Budget. As does the contract negotiations.

3/20/2009 05:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Thanks to the traffic officer in 001 for the pimpy parking ticket you stuck on my window right next to my FOP and St. Jude's stickers. You're doing an awesome job. Da Mayor thanks you!

3/19/2009 11:46:00 PM

So learn to park legally, asshole.

3/20/2009 06:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am very glad Jody Weiss is the Superintendant of the Chicago Police Department. Unfortunately way too many police officers have been arrested and gone to prison for gross misconduct

Perhaps he also needs to oversee the Aldermen...way too many of them hae gone to jail

3/20/2009 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who gives a damn what FOP thinks? There more useless then J-FED. At least I have an AR-15 now.

3/20/2009 07:45:00 AM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

12:03 AM

Did your procedure involve a partial or full lobotomy? Any other adverse complications?

I didn't get your name.

3/20/2009 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"are all the readers of your blog (and all the voters in this poll) REALLY CPD police officers? How can you prove it?"

3/19/2009 11:39:00 AM

The 9% 224 yes votes were not police officers.

3/20/2009 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Thanks to the traffic officer in 001 for the pimpy parking ticket you stuck on my window right next to my FOP and St. Jude's stickers. You're doing an awesome job. Da Mayor thanks you!

3/19/2009 11:46:00 PM

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PIMPY? DUDE YOU'RE PIMPY! THE MAYOR THANKS ME? HOW ABOUT NOT BEING ARROGANT AND A JERK TO YOU FELLOW COPPERS? I'M SURE SOME WORK U'VE DONE CAN B VIEWED AS PIMPY! YOUR ATTITUDE IS PART OF THE PROBLEM ON THIS JOB! YOU'RE ATTITUDE IS PART OF THE REASON WE HAVE DISTRUST FROM THE AVERAGE JOE. WHY DON'T YOU PARK LEGALLY? ARE YOU CLAIMING TO BE ABOVE AND BEYOND? DISCRETION IS THE KEY HERE. IT'S OBVIOUS IT DIDN'T GO YOUR WAY ON THIS ONE SO JUST SUCK IT UP AT PAY THE TICKET. THE FOP AND OTHER STICKERS IS NOT A GURANTEED FREE RIDE. SURE LETS TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN BUT AT THE SAME TIME RESPECT THE OFFICER ON DUTY AND HIS/HER DECISION MAKING. YOU PARKED ILLEGALLY. MORAL OF THE STORY IS THAT YOU'RE PIMPY FOR CRYING ABOUT IT!
-FROM A P.O. WHO IS NOT PERFECT HER SELF BUT DOES AT LEAST PARK LEGALLY

3/20/2009 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last i heard there were approximately 9200 uniform checks printed. Everyone gets a uniform check. Not enough police!!!!

3/20/2009 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

-FROM A P.O. WHO IS NOT PERFECT HER SELF BUT DOES AT LEAST PARK LEGALLY

You are exactly whats wrong with this job. No one else takes care of us and now its gotten to the point where we dont even take care of each other. Who cares what the public thinks. You probably work the desk anyway honey. Any cop that knowingly writes another cop for some pimpy stuff is a punk. Out of all the cars to write tickets to that officer couldnt find one that wasnt the police. We do have discretion.

3/20/2009 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F---your F.O.P. sticker. Park in a legal spot. You are part of the problem.
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The spot was legal jagoff. I said the ticket was pimpy. Parking on a hydrant, handicap spot, double parking, those aren't pimpy. Getting out your tape measure to check if your car is 13 inches from the curb, 29 ft from a stop sign, writing a ticket even though the signs are missing, those are what I call pimpy. I'm not saying we should cover up for cops who steal, beat their wives, drive drunk, etc. I wouldn't write anyone for what I got written for. We as residents of Chicago, police or not, give enough of our checks back to the city. If we're to the point where we can't even give each other a pass on BS parking tickets then this department truly is lost. The only thing we have left is each other, or at least it was.

3/20/2009 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F---your F.O.P. sticker. Park in a legal spot. You are part of the problem.

___________________________________

Hmmm, no contract, morale in the shitter, clout bosses, no contract, crappy equipment, not enough P.O.'s, no contract, J-Fed, out gunned, pension under funded, and um...no contract.
Sorry, I fail to see the connection.

3/20/2009 11:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Should of left it up for a week...

3/21/2009 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: I was at the credit union/FOP 2 days ago. They hooked my car within about 10 minutes. Now, admittedly I was illegally parked. But it seems aufully coincidental that on the publishing of the "no confidence vote" S&N prowl around where a large amount of police traffic is likely to park.The cost you ask: $160 for the tow, and $60 for the ticket.

3/21/2009 04:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: I was at the credit union/FOP 2 days ago. They hooked my car within about 10 minutes. Now, admittedly I was illegally parked. But it seems aufully coincidental that on the publishing of the "no confidence vote" S&N prowl around where a large amount of police traffic is likely to park.The cost you ask: $160 for the tow, and $60 for the ticket.
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you do the crime, you do the time.

3/21/2009 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"you do the crime, you do the time.

3/21/2009 10:26:00 AM"


So why doesn't your platitude apply to the midget and his minions?

3/22/2009 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you do the crime, you do the time.
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Fuck you and your spot! You want parkers boss...yes boss. Shine your shoes boss? Anything you need boss! You pathetic suckhole! Go get your shine box!

3/22/2009 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you and your spot! You want parkers boss...yes boss. Shine your shoes boss? Anything you need boss! You pathetic suckhole! Go get your shine box!
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you DEFINE disgruntal! how much time do you have on the job (that you still have)?
you can sit here and admit you have never done anything a boss has hasked you for? it can be said that (at least in this case) MISERY LOVES COMPANY! If you are going to be a miserable dude-keep it to your self and don't try and bring people down with you and you misery. Oh by the way why are you so upset? Someone take you lunch money?

3/23/2009 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you DEFINE disgruntal! how much time do you have on the job (that you still have)?
you can sit here and admit you have never done anything a boss has hasked you for? it can be said that (at least in this case) MISERY LOVES COMPANY! If you are going to be a miserable dude-keep it to your self and don't try and bring people down with you and you misery. Oh by the way why are you so upset? Someone take you lunch money?
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Where did you learn your spelling and sentence structure skills? Oh, the lunch money punch line...classic. Very clever. How's that working out for you...being clever?

3/23/2009 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where did you learn your spelling and sentence structure skills? Oh, the lunch money punch line...classic. Very clever. How's that working out for you...being clever?
-----------------------------------That's more like it (just had to tame you a bit). I like your attitude now. Since when is the blog a spelling b or english 101? You're a mega crybaby and by the way, where has my cleverness gotten me? CPD, right along with you...Mr. Arrogant-i'm above and beyond doing parkers cause i'm too cool! Go back to "would you like fries with that order?"

3/24/2009 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go back to "would you like fries with that order?"
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Ouch...once again ending on a real zinger! What you just don't get is that its not that I think I'm "to cool" to write parkers. It's that not generating revenue is one of our, Chicago Police Officers, most immediate ways to show the mayor that we are not happy with his attitude towards us and our lack of a contract. In addition, the fact that we are so low on manpower is a real threat to all of us that are on the street. Not so much to a house mouse such as yourself. I know this is getting complex but try to wrap your mind around something that we used to consider each other. Brothers and Sisters. Not the boss's favorite, not the measly patrol unit, not the cool Tac guys. Just a bunch of people who took care of each other and weren't always looking out for themselves. Sure, there's always a few, but your breed has taken over the Dept. and the Dept. now sucks!!!

3/24/2009 07:22:00 PM  

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