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- A/3 is in some kind of personnel check from the inspectors.I don't know why, but, I never saw the inspector.The pussy sergeant and patrolman walking around like kings, asking fellow sergeants and patrolmen questions like they were 2 year olds made me want to puke."We are here to fuck you , now talk to us".FUck you, you are all young ones your day will come.
2/25/2009 10:35:00 PM
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Supposedly, they're auditing how man people are really needed inside. They're going to be auditing a lot of units to determine necessary personnel.
We've heard this is happening in a number of units. Head counts for desks, offices, lock-ups, etc. If there are people who aren't specifically assigned to such-and-such and opening by bid or by management, then they're headed back to the street.
We can only say, it's about damn time.
We can only say, it's about damn time.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
66 Comments:
019th District desk alone has about six P.O.'s working on 3rd watch. The detective's front desk upstairs is manned by three more just to answer the phones! What a country!!
Get rid of the contact card imputter officers in 010...let them gaurd the doors...
good!!!! if you wanna be a desk officer CAPS officer, or other inside job (HQ), then apply to be a secretary in a downtown office. if you wanna work lock-up, then apply to be a cook co jail guard. this applies to all except those who did their time on the street and have enough seniority to bid to the inside jobs
You aren't kidding!! It's about damn time!!
There are so so so many people hiding in do nothing positions or positions where they get a whole days work done in about an hour then play on the internet the rest of the time or get to go home.
I understand if these are older guys that have put in their time and are on their way out, but to have officers (mostly females) with under 5 years in these positions is just ludicrous.
That's exactly what makes morale go down the tubes.
Well they can START by weeding out the dead weight at the Desk on 3rd.WORTHLESS barely scratches the surface. And the Sgt has a suck hole? say it aint so Joe! Probably the same assclown that drowned a New Patrol car in the Costco Parking lot a few years back. Equally as worthless and a waste of a button as the desk crew.
How about the 5-6 officers in 023 that just enter contact cards and watch TV all day.
Like others have said "it's about time," we have way to many inside doing nothing . The best is when we have a "station assignment" to get the lazy desk officers lunch! Why can't they "fetch" their own lunch?
women working the desk??? Some districts-like the one I work -it is all men! Young men who are new on the job-WTF?? more women on the street than men on some watches..Nothing like a 2 year wonder built like a linebacker doing radios....or doing inventories...CUT THE DEAD WOOD IN ALL THE INSIDE SPOTS!!!!
Anonymous said...
good!!!! if you wanna be a desk officer CAPS officer, or other inside job (HQ), then apply to be a secretary in a downtown office. if you wanna work lock-up, then apply to be a cook co jail guard. this applies to all except those who did their time on the street and have enough seniority to bid to the inside jobs
3/02/2009 12:44:00 AM
WTF ? The Dept decides what jobs to fill "inside". The officers working there are ONLY by seniority bid. Whats ur point?
Why would we work in a downtown office or be a cook cty jail guard when these jobs exist in the police dept and need to be filled ?
FYI: some of these spots are a pain in the ass that many don't even want to bid on
They've done this at least 4 times since 2003. It's an age-old practice. They've just been more obvious about it for the last 5 years. It's a simple clout check. Every now and then you have to get your ticket re-stamped or be replaced by someone with "current" juice.
Youngsters....alot of these people aren't super-heavy. They were just sharp enough to realize that there are better ways to do 29 then pushing a beat car in 007. Lighten up, if you have an IQ over 70, you'll figure it out.
Be safe.
Take the Cricket off the desk and put her on a car where she belongs. So afraid of the street that she will put in for CU even if assigned the park car.
Anonymous said...
019th District desk alone has about six P.O.'s working on 3rd watch. The detective's front desk upstairs is manned by three more just to answer the phones! What a country!!
3/02/2009 12:18:00 AM
And there are stretches of time in 019 that they could easily use SEVEN OR MORE and keep them all busy for hours (but not a solid 8 hrs).
The problem with the desk is that you need to man it to function at peak capacity, and each watch has unique responsibilities. It is not the luxurious job that lotsa people think. Sometimes it requires reverse seniority to cover it because its simply too much work for a lot of people.
And, the problem with the 019th dist desk is that it is also the Area HQ... the 5 Area dists, 002, 005, 011, 019, and 025 are much busier than the other dist desks, just because there are so many units and officers assigned there.
There's a reason why guys say 'just give me my beat car on days and leave me alone'.
Anonymous said...
You aren't kidding!! It's about damn time!!
There are so so so many people hiding in do nothing positions or positions where they get a whole days work done in about an hour then play on the internet the rest of the time or get to go home.
I understand if these are older guys that have put in their time and are on their way out, but to have officers (mostly females) with under 5 years in these positions is just ludicrous.
That's exactly what makes morale go down the tubes.
3/02/2009 01:58:00 AM
why u blamin females for following rules that apply to everyone, moron?
u got more seniorty and wanna bid, go right ahead
don't forget about the caps office and commanders office. bunch of busy people up there too ya know.
"...I understand if these are older guys that have put in their time and are on their way out, but to have officers (mostly females) with under 5 years in these positions is just ludicrous.
That's exactly what makes morale go down the tubes.
3/02/2009 01:58:00 AM
The older guys are too smart to get stuck inside with no freedom to leave or no place to go. When a "handwaver" walks up to the desk, you can't really wave back and continue on your way to Starbucks !
The desk is a bid spot. if the desk people have less than 5 yrs, it can ONLY be because no one with over 5 yrs wants that job. Otherwise, bid for the spots when they open. what is it that makes that ludicrous???
If senior PO's don't want the spot and don't bid on them, how does that ruin morale?
They should start with all the full duty officers at HQ those are the biggest ASS Kissers ever. Followed by all those clout 1-5 man units. Why do exempts need drivers? All those officers should be sent back to the districts to drive a beat car if they love driving around so much. Body guards if Chicago is safe enough for the Olympics no one needs body guards send them back to the districts were they can body guard the street.
Saw Asst. Deputy First Superintendent Chief Patrol or is it administration (whatever JPUD is calling these days) Jimmy Jackson's video on behaving during St. Patrick's Day parade and I threw up in my mouth. I don't go to the parade, I don't like crowds but it sickens me that the fucking department has the nerve to show that video. Most of us are adults and JPUD and his gold star buddies constantly insult the rank and file of the department by treating us like a bunch of drunken teenagers. Part of me wants to go out and embarass the shit out of the department just to make those at the top look bad. I am really considering doing a drunken public act in front of a bunch of news cameras in uniform right before I quit this job. Fuck you JPUD.
My daddy says, I can stay in my sweet spot. I am needed where I am at, I check cars for mileage, damage and if I damage is found I have to fill out an accident report. Sometimes I even answer the phones.
GREAT so my seniority will get pushed down some more.
Anonymous said...
Well they can START by weeding out the dead weight at the Desk on 3rd.WORTHLESS barely scratches the surface. And the Sgt has a suck hole? say it aint so Joe! Probably the same assclown that drowned a New Patrol car in the Costco Parking lot a few years back. Equally as worthless and a waste of a button as the desk crew.
3/02/2009 03:35:00 AM
Good idea. Put the WORTHLESS dead weight on the street where you'll be counting on them for your backups and assistance. Then they'll man the desk by reverse seniority since no one wants to be there, and the young "workers" will be on the desk.
Be careful what you wish for. This is not an ideal world !
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It's been on-going citywide for about a month now. They were in 022 about 3-4 weeks ago. Very polite, and quite frank about why they were there.
The inside people in 024 who were on the Sat/Sun D.O.G. were just told from downtown that they now are going to be in either Fri/Sat or Sun/Mon D.O.G.
Oh the wailing and beating of breasts could be heard all the way to Kedzie!
Let me say that this is another IT'S ABOUT TIME issue.
You should see all the people in 023 in the front office and various positions throughout the station. Most have no time on the job either.
You people are very simple and short sighted. Think about what Jody has these miny JUDAS's doing.
He went after the command staff, and you all laughed and clapped. Now its your turn,and your laughing at the house mice.
Keep laughing when you find out this department will never have the man power it had.
You still haven't learned to stick together.
Fools.
How bout for one or two days, the Auditing group,everone assigned to it that is, hit the districts and units,including HQ and see what everyone assigned to these inside jobs are doing. If you did it right you'd find out where all the wasted manpower is. But this is Chicago and it will never happen. The clout babies will always be taken care of. Reserve those nice jobs for the IOD's or those close to retirement, who earned it. We waste more manpower in this department.
should include all these desk dollys with 2 years on and have never worked the street. just check out 025.
018 has an 'entertainment detail', which consists of roughy 20 po, one sgt, one lt, and one po assignedas a secretary. It's function? Respond to bar calls. Just like the beat cars do. And there are still foot guys outside the bars. It's great for those on the team, but when the watch is just about depleted it doesn't make a whole lot of sense...
Anonymous said...
019th District desk alone has about six P.O.'s working on 3rd watch. The detective's front desk upstairs is manned by three more just to answer the phones! What a country!!
3/02/2009 12:18:00 AM
018 has the opposite problem... 3rd watch has ONE po on the desk. One po has to be upstairs in the radio room for the tour, leaving ONE po to do everything at the desk. May not sound like much, but there is a lot going on at a downtown desk.... accident reports alone are a steady stream...
This might not be a bad idea. Get some of these people back on the street.
cpd isn't short po's , detective or sgt to many are working inside
hire some civilians and put the detectives back on te street
good!!!! if you wanna be a desk officer CAPS officer, or other inside job (HQ), then apply to be a secretary in a downtown office. if you wanna work lock-up, then apply to be a cook co jail guard. this applies to all except those who did their time on the street and have enough seniority to bid to the inside jobs
Allowing for days off, there are going to be vacancies for non bid people. If you think working inside is a great gig, just request it. Working the desk really isn't a hard spot to get.
the inspectors could have a field day if they were to check all the hidden people upstairs in the commanders area of 009th dist. there are 4 or 5 people claiming to be commanders secretaries. One female 2.5 year wonder is now one of Roy's secretaries who's only purpose is to handle the paperwork on cr#'s.Of course only 1 or 2 of them are actually listed on the A&A's as secretaries. The other ones are hidden in various ways on the A&A's. Inspectors should come to 009 and go upstairs on a day when they're all there....wait that never happens. Ask each and every one of them what their job is. You'd see some panicked faces and stumbling and mumbling.
"...but to have officers (mostly females) with under 5 years in these positions is just ludicrous.
That's exactly what makes morale go down the tubes.
3/02/2009 01:58:00 AM"
You're confusing the 'ludicrous' with the 'salacious'.
Some of these people should be hidden so as not to get us killed on the street. Just a different take.
my assignment is the 1st and 16th
....Get rid of the contact card imputter officers in 010...let them gaurd the doors...
3/02/2009 12:41:00 AM....
Get rid of that poster, let him GUARD the door.
But why not get limited duty officers off the medical roll and give them the data entry jobs like that. At least in 010 on midnights there is a pregnant officer doing that.
And contact cards, why isn't that an automatic function on the PDTs, save time, save money for our retro checks.
your kidding right? 11th district parking garage has TWENTY TWO reserved parking spaces on the main floor for the inside personnel. that's just the ones who rated reserve parking.
I say it's about time. These desk crews and commanders office people are getting out of hand. There are times on the 2nd watch there are more people in the front office, on the desk, and in the caps office then there are police officers working the street. And why are all the inside people in civilian dress come on WTF....everyone other than detectives and tactical teams should be in uniform. Oh if caps people are in uniform it might make it more difficult for them to shop on duty... I say go for it inspectors...get these people back on the streetand in uniform
All of those Dets in Area 3 are needed. A former A5 Lt. put this in place. An A3 Comdr continued this because he does not have an original thought. But that is the way of this department.
Youngsters....alot of these people aren't super-heavy. They were just sharp enough to realize that there are better ways to do 29 then pushing a beat car in 007. Lighten up, if you have an IQ over 70, you'll figure it out.
Be safe.
3/02/2009 08:17:00 AM
Don't knock 007 until you have to worked there. Except for the derisiveness of cap bubblehead, we are a well kept secret appreciated only by the Ranger bond.
Cut the 3rd district 2nd watch desk crew. You got 1 with no time but her boyfriend works @ the academy. A 2nd non bidded watch sec (AH) who has people afraid to challenge her because the W/C backs whatever she wants. The Burger queen front office is packed. She even got 1 guy who NO ONE knows what the hell he does.
With regards to the 5 coppers in 023 who input cc data. You are quite wrong. The 2 officers have over half a century of time between the 2 of them and they are bid spots according to the contract, they are entitled unless someone has more seniority to outbid them. We just got 2 civilians from a lawsuit their union had against the city where they had to be relocated to another city dept. The other officer was in a traffic crash and endured some recontructive sugery, while on duty, so he is getting taken care of as he should. The F/2 has been reassigned to the watch. So there!!!!
Who needs a special unit of clout to check on the clout in the districts?Every boss from the commander on down knows what goes on.Some of these decisions are made in the district others are shoved down the commanders throat,he,too,must answer to the higher"AUTHORITY".Nothing will ever change,so go grab a beer and relax.
Disband Area 3 and send them all to Area 1 and Area 2. Dicks in Area 3 have the lowest work load in the city, compared to 1,2, and 4 is slowly dying due to the yuppies pushing out the minorities.
The soft inside positions should be reserved for the old timers that did their time on the street chasing the bad guys and now can't physically take being out in a squad car or want a nice warm spot to be while they wait and retire. They paid their dues and they deserve it. Instead this department let's many new people start on days, get trained on days and before you know it they are working in the front office with the rest of the useless staff that never did a day on the street but are the first one's to get into all the training and special overtime options because they are the first to get the letter that came down announcing it. I remember being in the academy and people saying I can be a secretary for a company making 27k a year or a can be a secretary for the CPD and make 63K a year and carry a badge and gun. The department hired these people that never had any intention of being the police and allowed them to be dogassess. It's sickening. This department has lost control.
Youngsters....alot of these people aren't super-heavy. They were just sharp enough to realize that there are better ways to do 29 then pushing a beat car in 007. Lighten up, if you have an IQ over 70, you'll figure it out.
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If you are included in that group than you are as big of a douche bag as they are. These people that work inside from the moment they start are the some one's that get promoted to meritorious positions or by chance make rank and have no clue how to lead or protect the troops that are under them. That is the downfall of this department.
WTF ? The Dept decides what jobs to fill "inside". The officers working there are ONLY by seniority bid. Whats ur point?
Why would we work in a downtown office or be a cook cty jail guard when these jobs exist in the police dept and need to be filled ?
FYI: some of these spots are a pain in the ass that many don't even want to bid on
3/02/2009 08:09:00 AM
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You live in dreamland.
Just because desk spots are 'supposed' to be mandatory bid spots doesn't make it so. Sometimes they get created just because somebody's so useless they have to be hidden so they don't break a nail.
And in the building referred to in this post, there are desk spots that 'don't exist' but they're there, anyway.
018 has the opposite problem... 3rd watch has ONE po on the desk. One po has to be upstairs in the radio room for the tour, leaving ONE po to do everything at the desk. May not sound like much, but there is a lot going on at a downtown desk.... accident reports alone are a steady stream...
3/02/2009 12:09:00 PM
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Why would you have to be in the radio room FOR THE TOUR!!!
Start in 019 by removing the troll that sits there on 3rd Watch behind the desk. There only because she froze like a deer in headlights wetting herself while some #1 shot at her partner. Yeah THATS what we need on the street "effectively representing" the chicago police department. Can i go Puke now?
My daddy says, I can stay in my sweet spot. I am needed where I am at, I check cars for mileage, damage and if I damage is found I have to fill out an accident report. Sometimes I even answer the phones.
You must be the clueless Watch Secretary from 025.
Hold it.. checking cars, accident reports and answering phones.. that requires work...
No it must not be you.
Anonymous said...
018 has the opposite problem... 3rd watch has ONE po on the desk. One po has to be upstairs in the radio room for the tour, leaving ONE po to do everything at the desk. May not sound like much, but there is a lot going on at a downtown desk.... accident reports alone are a steady stream...
3/02/2009 12:09:00 PM
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Why would you have to be in the radio room FOR THE TOUR!!!
3/03/2009 12:47:00 AM
That's what the commander wants....
All of those Dets in Area 3 are needed. A former A5 Lt. put this in place. An A3 Comdr continued this because he does not have an original thought. But that is the way of this department.
3/02/2009 05:04:
Try calling A/3 on 3rd watch and see if you don't get a automated voice mail message. The phones are purposely forwarded to CPD voice mail lest we interrupt the coffee klatch!
How about area 3 Deputy Chiefs office. Give me a break. Put those bodies on the street boss.
Whos the blonde P.P.O. or just got off probation in 019 3rd watch who always works the desk. Come on captain, set an example if you want your troops to work!
"Why would you have to be in the radio room FOR THE TOUR!!!
3/03/2009 12:47:00 AM"
Gots ta catch my zzzzzzzzzzzzz?
"This department has lost control.
3/02/2009 11:44:00 PM"
It's not a loss of control, it's that control being in the hands of stone cold assholes.
How do you justify paying someone $70,000 a year just to smoke in front of the station or stand around the desk looking like a clueless jagoff. This impersonator is supposed to be in lock up. If you don't like being inside--go work a beat car, or are you too afraid??
017 First Watch!!
In my district we have more "SWORN OFFICERS" inside the station than on the street on days! I'm not making this up.
01? district house mouses 2nd & 3rd watches now have to spend half their tour roving around bullshitting and taking turns smoking outside as there really are more of them than there are desks to play on the computers...ah its hard to burn a six hour tour when you only have 1 real hour assigned desk duties,...my only problem is these slackers calling beat cars in to run errands for front office and desk unless they will squeeze back into the uniform of the day and respond to street jobs...think about it next time, actually all 25 districts seem to have the same problem....anyone
It is realy sad how jealous and hateful so many of you are. In my 25 years I have never worked inside unless i was forced to. Gee aren't I brave and the "real police"? Give me a break ! I never wanted to work inside and am glad there are people who do. If you want to work inside you can get there if you don't you are probably where you want to be. It's the same resentment posted about south is tough and north is not.I have worked both and when I got tired of one I went to the other. So can you.It's called a par form. For those of you who define yours and others manhood by where you work. Grow up. This is a job not the schoolyard. If you were half as tough as you think you are you would not be crying about how good everyone but poor little you has it.
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Why would you have to be in the radio room FOR THE TOUR!!!
3/03/2009 12:47:00 AM
Well...because the braintrust that designed the District put the radio room on the second floor, away from the desk where the inside P.O.s work.
Sure, it's close to the roll call room, and someone that doesn't work the street thinks that's a good place. But all the inside people are assigned downstairs, as is the Watch Commander. They should have put it there. Constant presence at radios, no loss of personnel. (forehead slap- maybe we should have asked a working P.O..) I still remember one of the Sergeants laughing about how they tried to put a firedoor inside the prisoner processing area.
The P.O.s working the street are the biggest wasted resource on this Department. All the experience, none of the input.
Disband Area 3 and send them all to Area 1 and Area 2. Dicks in Area 3 have the lowest work load in the city, compared to 1,2, and 4 is slowly dying due to the yuppies pushing out the minorities.
3/02/2009 09:02:00 PM
Now why should we work for a living when all we have to do is show up.
Area 3 Dicks
The Clueless Led by Supervisors with Rap Sheets
The reason one (1) PO needs to sit in the radio room all tour is because 018 3rd watch has to deal with 7 roll calls:
1300 Michigan foot
1400 early cars
1530 late cars
1600 cha
1700 rapids
1800 nigth tact team
2030 rush st detail
then you have check off's:
1345 2nd watch foot guys
1445 2nd watch early cars
1345 2nd watch late cars
day tact team
Then you have inventories. Also radio room personnel has to list all traffic accidents for the previous watch. Basically, cater to all the cab drivers who have their own "Rules of the Road" book. Every time you walk away someone is calling you to open up the room so it's easier to just stay in there.
This is why one (1) PO spends the whole tour in the radio room.
3rd watch is starting off almost every day with a back log in 009th Dist. Is there an Order on how may officers can be staffed to the commanders office, caps, etc. Im sure the beat cars on days could use the "help". Maybe when there done with their "work" for the day they could do a school crossing, station assignments or sit at one of the many school details. It would also be interesting to know if these officers have ever had their C U denied due to man power needs... Hey bigbird ! Would you please stop hammering the beat copper who just got his ass kicked all day for petty S@#* 10-4? (I'm just saying)
THIS OVER HEARD ON CHICAGO POLICE VOICE MAIL:
"Thank you for calling the Chicago Police Department.
If youd like to report a crime, stay on the line and the next avaliable operator will assist you.
If youd like to speak to a supervisor because one of our Jack booted thugs violated your civil rights push ONE
If you are a shirtless alcoholic and dont want one of our officers responding to your domestic so as to interfere with true love push TWO
If youd like to report an incident of Racial profiling, put down your crack pipe and speak CLEARLY or push THREE
If youre trying to locate one of your 7 fatherless children PUSH FOUR.
If youd like to speak to the Superintendant....GOOD LUCK we've been trying to talk to him for ages.
Thank you for calling the Chicago Police Department......
All the females on the 3rd watch in 19 are so excited because the capt has kept a non bid on the desk because shes knocked up. They can't wait to beef if he dares send them to call back when they get preggie too.
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