Headquarters Rumor
Supposedly, every able bodied PO is about to be sent from HQ out to the severely understaffed Districts.
According to our count, this is the fourth time in two years we've heard this one. But we keep hoping.
According to our count, this is the fourth time in two years we've heard this one. But we keep hoping.
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:15 AM
64 Comments:
Why bother, they won't do anything but fill a seat (in some cases two).
All it is, is that all desk personel now have to go out on the street for a week a month. That is what the rumor is. But I thought according to J-Fed that our Districts are staffed and have enough personel.
Yeah right!!! I'll believe it when it happens.....
they will report to 39th and wood and will have a lt. in charge of them, someone named allison schloss(cs).
another waste, at least they can get their shopping done on michigan ave
you can't do that.....too many heavy people hideing there.
don't believe me-just watch.
And this will help us how? A bunch of house mouses on the street, scared of their own shadow. I still remember the "closed market" cars who would flag us down and tell us that the people on the corner they were assigned to watch may be selling drugs, and that we should do something about it. Useless bunch of empty uniforms, just secretaries with guns. It should be as it was, you need at least 20 to work inside or you got seriously injured or shot. Now we get people straight off field training working inside and staying inside. This department truly needs leadership from the ranks of the street copper. Inject some common sense into this department. Hey Sup why don't you try a little experiment, promote a career street cop to Commander of a District and see what happens.
Hey, do we need to re train those folks in how to holster and handle their weapon? If so, can i be the secretary of that unit? Just asking...
Tobias is going back on the street to write parkers!
A huge shell game. All of those female full duty officers hiding at 35th street. If they are reasigned, who will create the reports showing lack of activity?
Don't get your hopes up.
Rumor has it that each sworn Police Officer from HQ will only be sent out for just one week at a time. That's it. They're not being dumped or reassigned. Of course we know that there will still be those special officers with special priviliges who wont end up being part of this pool. My point? All of this shuffling may give the appearance that theres more police on the street, but in reality? Just another ploy for the bosses along with our news affairs to play semantics when it comes to giving Daley's media pals the actual or true number of policmen we have on the street.
Yea, and like these "milingerers"
will be a big help out here....
Hey J-Fed:
Send out the 35th street people just one week a month to the districts but make them take radio assignments in the busy district and beat. See how they bitch.
Oh my God, please stop this B.S. rumor. Those pre-madonnas will never hit the street. How about the P.O.'s assigned to the academy? One recruit class in there with probably as many P.O.'s assigned there too!
Yeah, its called Back to the Streets. Been around for a while now.
I better check and make sure that my CPR Card is updated.
If Heavy D and the Boys are coming back to patrol, I want to make sure that I'm ready...
Way to many overweight and out of shape currently working over there.
if it works like it did last year, they pick one week a month to go out; but, they are allowed to use time due during that week, so.....talked to a sarge last year (he was detailed into that unit from 11 or 15, I think, with no notice) who had the hq folks working for him. He said he had nobody to supervise that day because they all took time due....
It'll be the same bullshit as it was before... a couple house mouse pussies who aren't the current boss' favorites have to go out for a week in "specially assigned" areas for "high visibility". That means going out to a shit district, letting the supervising sgt. (who also hides at HQ) see you on your "spot" and then disappear for the rest of the day.
None of these whimps will be handling jobs, guaranteed. Why? The excuse will be that these precious few can't be bogged down with court after their week is up, you know, they're too busy and all changing around a couple 5 year old powerpoints, changing the names at the top of their canned To/Froms, wasting time down in the gym, etc.
I think it's a great idea! WEISel and MASTERS should set the proper example and be deployed to a week each, and in really busy districts!
Anonymous said...
All it is, is that all desk personel now have to go out on the street for a week a month.
oooohhhhhh wooooooow!
You mean like that stupid deployment "Operation Closed Market" where they sat on their asses al frkn day!
This is a sore topic for me. Had to go to the Medical section a few times this year for an IOD. And, what the hell is going on in HQ that the parking lot is jammed full of cars? I know some of those cars are dept. vehicles, but that only should take up a section or two. After driving around for a few minutes and hunted down a parking spot in the back corner, I wondered why they "needed" all those people at HQ?. I wondered what were their job requirements are. I wondered if this place is too overstaffed. I wondered if that place was on the up and up. I finally entered the lobby and as I stood looking at some the stars on the wall for a few minutes, I got a couple of strong wiffs of cigarette smoke. Staff getting paid to stand around and smoke cigarettes... That's a waste of man power, I thought. Then I saw the shucking and jiving at the round desk and noticed that there were younger personnel working that gig. Then I noticed that there are a lot of less tenured people moving about HQ. Unlike the old days when HQ was on 11th and State. All I gotta say is WTF? HQ needs to be legitimately cleaned out. Or am I beating a dead horse subject.
They hit the street for a couple days, whine ablout not knowing how to use the PDT, can't do a traffic crash rpt to save their life, Automated Arrest? fuggettaboutit.
Useless. Keep em in the building. We can't use 'em if they don't know the job.
Just don't send any more to the building or to specialized units.
Oh yeah. And how about hiring some more?
Anonymous said...
Tobias is going back on the street to write parkers!
5/15/2009 04:13:00 AM
why not? he had major clout got him out of sos mess and promoted1
Yeah, and rumor has it they are going to outsource the background checks to a private investigation firm. That's all we need...someone else determining who's qualified enough to be the PO-lice.
If hiring has been frozen, what do personnel investigators with cars do every day? What do they investigate? Put them in D units until city hires recruits. It is becoming harder to hide clout people.
008th district has ALL kinds of insiders that rarely or NEVER worked a day on the street!!!
The upstairs office is full of dogs....GG for one...the only thing they do is spread gossip and eat...eat ...eat...
maybe we should get rid of the many caps personel that don't do shit! in my southside dist... there is way to many who do not do a dam thing and on days. it seems that the beat cars all have to do these caps concerns that are over 6 months old and they are in the dist just making cookies and such. the caps sgt. also love to come into roll call and scream and yell because we don't do the concerns at all or in a timely manor which they want it. i am curious why this is.
........And this will help us,how?
Hey SCC, does this sound familiar? "We regularly delete crap that paints everyone with a broad brush,". It sounds like this post. The officers in HQ that will be sent to the streets are the ones that directly support patrol. You're high if you think they are cutting 33% of the "policy group" for this initiative. Like good democrats, they'll cut 50% of the workers, add 25% admin and call it a 25% transfer to the street. I like working the street and have never had a problem finding the release on my holster. If they send me out, no problem, but when I start hearing the bitching about where the support is from HQ, I'll remind you that I'm right there with you.
Maybe it's the 'tethered goat' strategy.
The Superintendents secretary has never worked the street. Start there! Atleast Clines secretary was a civilian.
What about the P.O.'s and Detectives that are in Personnel doing "background investigations?" Its a sizable number and obviously no one is getting hired. What exactly are they doing?
And this will help us how? A bunch of house mouses on the street, scared of their own shadow. I still remember the "closed market" cars who would flag us down and tell us that the people on the corner they were assigned to watch may be selling drugs, and that we should do something about it. Useless bunch of empty uniforms, just secretaries with guns. It should be as it was, you need at least 20 to work inside or you got seriously injured or shot. Now we get people straight off field training working inside and staying inside. This department truly needs leadership from the ranks of the street copper. Inject some common sense into this department. Hey Sup why don't you try a little experiment, promote a career street cop to Commander of a District and see what happens.
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Sorry but this is an urban myth. I have never worked inside in 25+ years, my choice and woopie do for me aren't I brave and tough. There were old and FNG's working inside when I came on. Most of use were glad they did it because we did not want too. There are many benefits to working the street that you don't get inside.I would also say these officers are not afraid they are just rusty. Quit measuring your manhood by where you work that is not the measure of a man. I worked in the second and 15th disricts with women that were smaller than my 9 year old son and they did what we all did. THE JOB!
They are hitting the streets for one week a month. However, they are also being allowed to take time due for that week if they want (fear about the comp time lawsuit in the courts).
Some people will hit the streets, but not as many as the department is counting on.
This is not safe... All this does is put another gun on the street that can be used to kill one of us working coppers!!!
Hey SCC, does this sound familiar? "We regularly delete crap that paints everyone with a broad brush,". It sounds like this post..
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No it doesn't you idiot. The crap we delete is stuff like, "All cops are crybabies." Or "Everyone at HQ got there by oral skills." Or "Every southside copper dates his sister and every northside copper holds hands with his partner."
You know - blanket statements that are demonstrably inane.
What we posted was a rumor just like is says in the title. Try to keep up here junior.
008th district has ALL kinds of insiders that rarely or NEVER worked a day on the street!!!
The upstairs office is full of dogs....GG for one...the only thing they do is spread gossip and eat...eat ...eat...
5/15/2009 12:00:00 PM
Poor baby your so upset we don't tell you the gossip. I've worked more years on the street than you've been alive and yes I work in that office. Eat and Eat there are more fat slobs on the watch than in the office
The truth is alot of the officers in the "Bldg." are looking forward to getting away from the non-sense and being in a dist. The easiest thing in the world is working a beat car. You're your own boss and you can roll up the window and drive off from any job you want to (bet your fTO didn't teach you that yet, Jody). Back to the street is a vacation for most of them. The funniest part is, all the PO' and Sgt's out of 35th st are still a drop in the bucket for what's needed. The bosses know it's just smoke and mirrors.
Whether you like me or not I don't care but I got 30 years on this job and I have been there and done it long before three quaters of you tuff guys ever saw the streets. U so called real police were still eating lunch in the lunchroom, while I was handling 20 plus jobs a night on the westside so bite me if I don't want to work the street. No white shit or gold star will Intimidate me becuse I don't care about these animals. This job sucks and so do the bosses so when I don't do anything feel free to call me whatever you want, I'll just smile and wave. Oh one other thing If you call for help I will be there for you but anything else forget about it
DOnt start the rumor that way you cant be surprised when you hear it !!!!
Yeah, and rumor has it they are going to outsource the background checks to a private investigation firm. That's all we need...someone else determining who's qualified enough to be the PO-lice.
5/15/2009 11:36:00 AM
That will be a HUGE, I said HUGE mistake. NEVER let unsworn do these investigations. Let the PO's or Det's do this job and keep to the standards, even if someone's clout cat get in or the "numbers". i.e. race, gender, etc. aren't good enough for city hall.
Anonymous said...
they will report to 39th and wood and will have a lt. in charge of them, someone named allison schloss(cs).
another waste, at least they can get their shopping done on michigan ave
5/15/2009 02:27:00 AM
Sorry pal, but Allison says she is not a waste.
"...This department truly needs leadership from the ranks of the street copper. Inject some common sense into this department..."
5/15/2009 02:58:00 AM
It may be too late. The better ones have already been chased.
My 80/20's don't fit!!!!!!
I like the name of the operation. Come out to a district for one week every month to sit in a squad with their back to the street.
This is a sore topic for me. Had to go to the Medical section a few times this year for an IOD. And, what the hell is going on in HQ that the parking lot is jammed full of cars? I know some of those cars are dept. vehicles, but that only should take up a section or two. After driving around for a few minutes and hunted down a parking spot in the back corner, I wondered why they "needed" all those people at HQ?. I wondered what were their job requirements are. I wondered if this place is too overstaffed. I wondered if that place was on the up and up. I finally entered the lobby and as I stood looking at some the stars on the wall for a few minutes, I got a couple of strong wiffs of cigarette smoke. Staff getting paid to stand around and smoke cigarettes... That's a waste of man power, I thought. Then I saw the shucking and jiving at the round desk and noticed that there were younger personnel working that gig. Then I noticed that there are a lot of less tenured people moving about HQ. Unlike the old days when HQ was on 11th and State. All I gotta say is WTF? HQ needs to be legitimately cleaned out. Or am I beating a dead horse subject.
5/15/2009 09:46:00 AM
I don't know when you were at the Medical Section, but the building is a ghost town...I've worked there twice in the last 7 years, and this is the most empty I've seen. Compared to how it was 7 years ago, it's empty. And by the brainy, the medical section has parking places upfront in the lot for people going there....just ask.
YOU WANT BODIES? YOU WANT BODIES? GRAB AS MANY AS YOU WANT FROM THE DEPLOYMENT OPERATIONS CENTER (DOC). WHAT IN THE HELL ARE THEY DOING UP THEIR. THEY HAVE ALL THE FANCY EQUIPMENT, FLOW CHARTS, PERSONNEL, WITH ABSOLUTELY NO RESULTS. NONE. WTF!! TRUST ME. JUST START WEIGHING SOME OF THOSE FOLKS IN JANUARY AND SEE HOW FAT THEIR ASSES ARE GETTING JUST SITTING AROUND MONTH AFTER MONTH.
"HQ needs to be legitimately cleaned out. Or am I beating a dead horse subject.
5/15/2009 09:46:00 AM"
That horse has been dead for awhile.
I'm surprised that you could smell the scent of cigarette smoke over the stench of that horse's rotting corpse.
How many able body coppers hiding at the academy?
What about the P.O.'s and Detectives that are in Personnel doing "background investigations?" Its a sizable number and obviously no one is getting hired. What exactly are they doing?
5/15/2009 03:56:00 PM
Supposedly they're all going to be dumped and a private search firm is being brought in to process future recruits.
If Schloss is running it the roll call will be at the corner of HOOD & Clark
That is all
"HQ needs to be legitimately cleaned out. Or am I beating a dead horse subject.
5/15/2009 09:46:00 AM"
The horse isn't dead - it's out there working the streets and helping make arrests. If it weren't for the horse last week and the kiddie cop a few months back, we would REALLY be short staffed!!! :>)
Maybe it's the 'tethered goat' strategy.
5/15/2009 03:28:00 PM
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What, they're gonna chew on grass for a tour?
get rid of gunteams, saturation teams ... so on
Allison Schloss is leaving 024? Hip hip hooray. I can finally bid to 024!
The K9 list is legit?
The k9 list legit? Since when has any list been legit? Any so called city promotional test are compromised by phase II and the oral. No such thing as legit promotional tests or lists in Chicago.
Anonymous said...
What about the P.O.'s and Detectives that are in Personnel doing "background investigations?" Its a sizable number and obviously no one is getting hired. What exactly are they doing?
5/15/2009 03:56:00 PM
Supposedly they're all going to be dumped and a private search firm is being brought in to process future recruits.
5/15/2009 10:01:00 PM
Private search firm with Daley connections. It never seems to stop.
Ted O'Keefe is cute!!
So, until the personnel investigators are booted out of HQ, they should go on DETAILS like the rest of the building.
.....Hey Sup why don't you try a little experiment, promote a career street cop to Commander of a District and see what happens.
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Cline tried that with Mike Cronin. Ask the guys who worked for that Idiot!!!
"What, they're gonna chew on grass for a tour?
5/16/2009 12:38:00 AM"
You've never hunted predators, have you?
"You've never hunted predators, have you?
5/17/2009 07:19:00 PM"
Not sure.
Anonymous said...
What about the P.O.'s and Detectives that are in Personnel doing "background investigations?" Its a sizable number and obviously no one is getting hired. What exactly are they doing?
5/15/2009 03:56:00 PM
Supposedly they're all going to be dumped and a private search firm is being brought in to process future recruits.
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A superb idea that will no doubt be screwed up by giving the contract to some Daley crony w/o a clue as to how to do a proper BI.
In any case, the initial screening could no doubt be handled by an outside firm, even if the BI proper was still handled by the department.
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