Rating Attitude?
J-Fed can't wait to tell everyone he's actually going to rate us again:
- The Chicago Police Department will begin evaluating its officers next year in a new way, examining not only officers' job performance but also their attitudes, ability to adapt and interactions with the public.
The department did away with its evaluation rating system about six years ago after complaints that it was too inconsistent and essentially a "popularity contest," Deputy Supt. of Patrol Daniel Dugan said.
Popularity contest is an appropriate comparison we suppose. But how is this any better?
- A general order issued recently gave detailed examples. Officers who fail to spot a suspect in a vehicle stop or deal angrily with the public could be tagged with "requires improvement" or "unacceptable" marks. Officers could earn "exceeds expectations" marks for going out of their way to volunteer for extra assignments or for suggesting changes to improve current policies.
"Fail to spot a suspect"? How is this one going to be graded? Is Big Bird going to dress up in "suspect appropriate" clothing and walk out of nearby buildings as officers approach? If he's got time to do that, he's got time to apprehend the jagoff.
Or this?
Or this?
- And while there's no mention of having to make a certain number of arrests or issue a certain number of tickets, officers could be judged for that too, if they're not addressing needs in their districts. As an example, Dugan cited issuing few traffic tickets in an area that has a high number of traffic crashes.
We smell a quota system. So does the FOP evidently:
- Mark Donahue, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, said the union objects to the evaluation system because it should be subject to collective bargaining.
Which is a polite way of saying, "See you at the arbitrator."
No word on how they rate the desk, front office or downtown people. If someone who has made a science out of attaching themselves to the career trajectory of a boss and not spending any time on the streets, how do they stack up against a southside cop handling 20 radio calls a night, a shooting and a domestic arrest? A northside traffic cop writing 10 movers and 50 parkers a shift? A westside cop handling 5 domestics, 12 stacked dope jobs and a backlog that started at 6am due to manpower shortages?
And has anyone looked into this computer system they're using? Some Texas company with big connections to the head of the schools. Or wasn't anyone supposed to know about that part of it?
No word on how they rate the desk, front office or downtown people. If someone who has made a science out of attaching themselves to the career trajectory of a boss and not spending any time on the streets, how do they stack up against a southside cop handling 20 radio calls a night, a shooting and a domestic arrest? A northside traffic cop writing 10 movers and 50 parkers a shift? A westside cop handling 5 domestics, 12 stacked dope jobs and a backlog that started at 6am due to manpower shortages?
And has anyone looked into this computer system they're using? Some Texas company with big connections to the head of the schools. Or wasn't anyone supposed to know about that part of it?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
228 Comments:
Me thinks Huberman has stock in this hush company too!!
So that means that they guy writing 20 parkers a day in 001 could have a higher rating then the guy answering the twenty plus jobs and not getting lunch in 007. There is a reason the ratings were eleiminated. They were not objective and they were a joke. The hot chicks workin the desk got 98's and the guy lockin up a head a day got like a 90. This will be great for morale i cant wait.
I haven't read the order personally, but I'll assume that once graded, officers will be "required" to sign said evaluation, officially acknowledging receipt of their "scores".
Coppers with less than 6 years on need to realize that the evaluations of yore were oftentimes graded by supervisors who may have had little or no personal work-related contact with the officers they were required to rate.
Furthermore, such a ratings system is highly subjective and scores were often biased due to a myriad of reasons, among them personal differences (both on and off the job), vendettas steming from any of a number of origins, etcetera.
Prior examples observed first-hand include the copper who unknowingly hooked-up with the Sergeant's estranged soon-to-be-ex
and the guy on the medical who received a poor score in the "Attendance" portion of the evaluation. Some of you weren't around at the time and some may not recall or even know...under that archaic grading system an average rating under 70% prohibited you from working Special Employment.
If this latest version of Performance Ratings is anything like the one that preceeded it, expect it to be as scientifically reliable or credible as having your palm read.
Which brings me to the point I'm trying to convey: If after perusing your evaluation you find ANYTHING that you feel is unjustly listed as sub-par when rating your multi-faceted greatness, REFUSE TO SIGN IT! Hardcore Housemice and Commander's Dollies excluded, about 80% of coppers won't be legitimately graded, and any boss worth his salt knows this as gospel. So refuse to sign this worthless document and let's see what J-Fed's illustrious "think tank" comes up with next.
Hey Boss! How's this rant rate on the "Attitude" portion of my evaluation?
This is a complete subjective and silly system. It's still a fucking popularity contest! If you're friends with the boss your fine! If it's not broke don't fix it! God help this joke of a department. It's still different rules for different folks and will always be! Just look at the merit system. Complete ZERO's get made!
Ratings can never be fair for exactly the reasons you pointed out... you are often comparing apples with oranges.
Once as an FTO I trained a guy who just didn't have the fire in him. He came on at 43 yoa.
I considered failing him till a wiser FTO reminded me that not every copper can be a tact guy and that the CPD has room for a lot of people with a lot of skills.
He ended up as a wagon man his entire career, but a really good one. They can be worth their weight in gold when you need 'em.
On a side note, Rick Francis was one of those outstanding wagon men, as well. His absence still saddens us.
My attitude can be summed up nicely as follows:
"FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING FUCKS!"
Now have a nice day.
;-)
How do they plan to rate the supervisors? Look at 003 district crappy bosses, no one wants to be there.
How is a 6 year Sergeant going to rate a 20 year veteran? This should be interesting. Do you think any supervisor is going to give a bad report to a connected officer who is a dog? This will never will happen or that Sergeant will never be a lieutenant. FOP better fight this tooth and nail.
One big problem with evaluations is that supervisors hate doing them as much as the officers hate getting them. They recognize the futility of trying to be fair in an unfair system. And they hate the extra work, regardless of that being what they get the 'big bucks' for.
Another problem is that it is difficult for anyone to accept a critical evaluation from someone they do not respect. With all of the clout babies in white shirts these days, working coppers get resentful.
And DUH ! I was once handed MY evaluation card by my westside 3 time, merit promoted Lt that had this comment on the back:
"HAS THE RESPECT OF HIS PEERS AND INSUBORDINATES ALIKE".
True story.
I always thought that America was ahead of Europe. Now I see that we are behind. This story is from Britian. This is our future. This is what Daley and Co wants us to be.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/story.php?id=255867&ac=PHnws
See who's spearheading this non-sense? Dugan, the same guy everyone has this undying love for. Still feeling the love for this epitome of the Company man?
Why should Police Officers be evaluated according to a General Order that is authorized by a man who has NEVER BEEN A POLICE OFFICER ! ! ! !
This must be Bizzaro World !
As far as counting the number of arrests, contact cards, etc. goes, the system is only as good as whoever inputs that stuff. I have credit for contact cards that I never made and arrests that I wasn't present for. You can check your own stats from the CPD Intranet Homepage. The rating scheme is full of errors before it's even begun.
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I cant wait till someone is denied a step raise because of their attitude or demeanor. Just cant wait for a judge to hear this one. "your honor....this man was denied a step raise because he's a real curmudgeon". Boy is J-Pud surrounding himself with idiots or what? Just cant wait to get in on this lawsuit I'm going to become an even bigger curmudgeon.
I see this form of evaluating officers riddled with enough holes that any of us blue shirts might make actually win a tighty sum of money from the City for an unfair and discriminatory practice.
Face it you "know it alls" at 35th/Michigan, you are grasping for straws.
YOU WANT US TO WORK? THEN TREAT US WITH RESPECT, FAIRNESS AN BACK US UP AGAINST THE IGNORANT CITIZENS AND POLITICIANS WHO DO NOT HAVE A FUCKING CLUE ABOUT THIS JOB.
What don't you exempts get? For every reaction there is an equal and opposite reaction. Keep pushing us down your insane path and you will see even less from us.
I can tell you of hundreds upon hundreds of officers who USED to be hard workers who now have the mentality that all of you bosses can go fuck yourselves.
But I will bet my pension on this fact: you take positive approaches that reward good cops and you will see a corresponding improvement in many things, including a decrease in crime. But the city and the department have to take the first step to earn our trust and respect, because, frankly, I don't trust any of your empty promises.
I know you bosses won't do it, though, because you are nothing but ass-kissers who are afraid of losing your gold stars. The vast majority of you exempts would never cut it outside of CPD, because in the corporate world you cannot hide behind your rank.
It is utterly incredible how small minded many of you exempts are.
There is a better way then your reactionary bullshit to improve the department, but not one of you have the balls to implement it.
"Part of the problem with the sort of subject evaluation is the supervisors who are doing the evaluation see far too little of the officer to actually know what they do," Kenney said.
"Fail to spot a suspect" ? How is this one going to be graded ?
And then, of course, how about all of the occasions when we DO SPOT A SUSPECT. Who has those statistics ?
It's all legit !
This should open up the people to a big lawsuit being that the issue is very subjective. How or whom are they going to base the level of "politeness" on? With what are they comparing this behavior with? If I got fired for not meeting expections, I would be talking to an attorney right away. This is just another document that can back up his decision to fire people.
Hey Dugan, You RAT BASTERD. How are you going to hide the puppet strings when you go out to address the troops???
Hey SCC, you should get "exceeds expectations" marks for all the suggestions on improving the department. This will work in your favor.
When we put ourselves in for those good marks, after putting ourselves in for merit promotions, we'll just reference our contributions to SCC.
they have really destroyed a once great Department.
if only the people new the truth
Rated on attitude?
Kiss My Ass!
How's my attitude? Rate that.
Looks like "quotas are back" with a vengeance! This is not a factory where you can be rated on how many boxes you stack, or how many trucks you load! Let me get this correct, you want us to arrest people,and ticket citizens who pay the highest sales taxes in the nation just to raise our "scores"! WTF? Are you all overpaid exempts out of your minds! Sorry no civil suits for me! Maybe you can bullshit your kids in msf and tru, but the vets on this job see clearly what you want us to do! Sorry bosses we want our pensions and "no jail time for us"! How about we rate the bosses? That would show how fucked up the leardership (Or total lack of) is in this dept,ran but the king of all that is wrong criminal mastermind daley!
What about the watch commander who NEVER LEAVES his office? Will he get a low rating for his lack of "interacting with the public"?
What about the watch commander who doesnt allow TIME DUE when there is plenty of manpower power? Will he get a low rating for his lack of "ability to adapt"?
What about the JAGOFF boss who doesnt get along with anyone and treats the PO's under him with disrespect? Can he be demoted because doesnt work well with others?
What about the W/C that sends your partner home,when you and your partner do your job and make a late arrest, because he doesnt want to allow two people to receive OVERTIME, and then sends a sgt. into the processing room to HARASS you to hurry up because he thinks to OT comes out of his pocket?
WHAT ABOUT THE FED GUY??? He has never done an ounce of police workn these streets. Should he be fired for LACK of POLICE PERFORMANCE????
I'm sure we can go on and on.
THESE R THE NEW IDEA J-FED IS COMING UP WITH!
300K!
CMON MAY BE PROMOTION SHOULD BE BASED ON THESE NUMBERS?
WHAT OTHER ORGANIZATION USES THIS SYSTEM BUT DOESNT USE IT FOR PROMOTIONS...
IS A BUS CHECK WORTH MORE THAN AN ARREST?
WHATS A SEARCH WARRANT WORTH?
WHAT ABOUT THE GUYS THAT ARE TARDY EVERY DAY?
THE GUYS THAT CAN SPELL ON A REPORT?
THE PEOPL DETAILED TO THE RUN TO REMEBER DO THE GET A GRADE FOR RUNNING IN MARATHONS ON THE CITIES DIME.
DALEY AND BURKES GAURDS WHAT R THEY GRADED ON THEIR PARKING SKILLS AND THE SPEED THEY CAN MAKE A LATTE'.
WHAT WOULD AUNT BEAS GRADE BE SHE DOESNT HAVE ANY DUTIES ANYMORE!
J-FED UR EXEMPTS R GIVING U BULLSHIT INFO SO THEY CAN SET THEMSELVE UP. DONT B A SIMPLETON AND GET UR HEAD OUT OF UR ASS.
MORALE IS UP BECAUSE EVERYONE SEZ HI TO ME A HEADQUARTERS!!!
LIFE IS NOT EASY IF YOU R A STROKE IN A POLICE CUSTOME FROM KALES!
This will be a real morale booster
Don't get worked up over this. This is the brainchild of Tracy Ladner at Human Resources (formerly Personnel) and not Dugan. Per MCC, the police department has to have a system to rate city police officers.
I cannot name one person that was denied special enjoyment, a step raise, or was fired due to the BS performance ratings.
I'm still waiting for my ballot to evaluate J-Fed. I guess we have to wait for Donahue to leave town.
The Rating system will be just like the swipe system...A bogus threat/ploy to scare those with small balls!
Rate this!
FOP better fight this tooth and nail.
yea just like our conract! LMAO!
Whine, Whine, Whine. Just do your job, stop staying down on nonsense calls.
How will they "grade" those in community policing - they don't do arrests and deal with the public in friendly basis as part of their jobs?
I remember when I had two years on the job and a sergeant on midnights (who I've never seen in the district) walk up to me at the end of my tour on third watch and gave me my performance rating card to sign and said:
"Hey kid, I can't give you anything above an 88 because you just got on the job."
Me: "Can I still work special?"
Sgt: "Sure kid."
Me: "Where do I sign."
After this, I knew it was all legit, LOL.
Rating attitude? Anyone that wears a police officer's uniform & has never worked a day as a police officer has an attitude.....a big attitude.
FYI, as a supervisor that went through training for this nonsense, this program has been in the works for years,Dugan is just the messenger at this point. That is all.
Dan,
Are you really believing this bull shit. God I hope you are not because I liked you as a boss. Putting yourself out there has really destroyed your crediblibility.
J-pud, J-Fed or J-Fraud, you're a joke. I know the media reads this blog from time to time, and one journalist should have the balls to read it and question your reasons: you are trying to break the union.
DO US REAL POLICE A FAVOR AND LOSE THE UNIFORM!!! YOU COCKSUCKER!!!
DUGAN HAS OUR BACKS!!!! This is proof of it.
Its always a good idea to look at the performance of your employees with a view toward improving things where needed.
Doing so in a way that is not real subjective is a difficult thing to do in any case, and even more so for government employees. Couple that with the situation with police where there just is no work product that can be compared from one employee to another, and you end up with something that is inherently subjective.
Maybe FOP can get involved up front and help make the process better, even if it is inherently doomed to be subjective for the most part.
This is nothing new. It is the same as the old system, completely subjective. The department took almost seven years to come up with this crappy system? We really have some smart people in this department, none of whom were used to develop this evaluation system. Who is Dugan kidding, this is just a popularity contest with no goal setting or employee involvement. We need a goal oriented objective system that really helps our officers improve their job skills.
They have classes at the academy for white shirts to train them on the new system. The majoirty of white shirts resent this system and are opposed to rating employees. The task will fall to sergeants who are overworked. Dump another huge task on working sgts who are short handed. Then have a sgt with 5 years on and never worked the street. His/her decisons will be very different from a 20 year veteran with street experience. Cannot eliminate clout.
this new system should be just about as legit as the old system, which was really horses##t; I can actually remember an old rating card, which had comments written in the categories on the back, that had a comment that said (don't remember which category)..."works and plays well with others"....and that rating card was signed and submitted.
The news stated that we can be fired and demoted for bad evaluations. What a fuckin joke.
This yuppy-ized liberal puke fucks at 35th street really amaze me with their stupidity!
We can beat them at their own game. What I used to do when we had the old evaluation system was to keep a record of everything I did. I would start by putting the time I hit the street after roll call and write every job I had, how long each one was, any RD #’s associated with it, etc, etc… I would also keep track of all other activity such as movers, parkers, and bus checks etc… If the bosses want to screw with you this info has a tendency to get lost. This info also makes great evidence should you find it necessary to challenge the evaluation with the Area deputy or even before a judge. I would probably keep track of backlogs and how many cars are down, also. The more info that you have the better.
Look at most people who have worked on any of the teams in 011 over the last 5 years. 10 people on one SUB,DOPW arrest report , and most can't write a complete sentence on their own. Yet, if you look it appears as if they have made tons of arrests and really just jump on paper of shitty arrests.
Who is going to rate the exempts that suck? I know someone on this site can post a ratings poll for them (Crump-Hales, Yamashiroya, Mealer , etc)
Dugan wants to be the next superintendent. He will and has walked over people to get there. Watch your backs,he will stab you to get even higher to the top.
SCC, May I recommend a new rating scale for the individuals that try to pass themselves off as fellow policemen?
I speak of the inside housemice that sit at the front desks of each and every district and refuse to cut paper or tell walk ins to call 911 for service! I speak of the 8-10 other "police" that work in the commander's office's or the Distrcit manager.
Anyway the new scale for these assholes would be "U" for useless and "CU" for completely useless.
If we are going to start rating coppers, I figure these chosen few are a hell of a place to start. I know from the district I work in , you have to special skills to verbally abuse a walk in looking for paper or order some woman involved in a domestic to go home and call 911. That falls under the "U" rating.
Now, on to the Disrict manager making six figures to order toilet paper and mess with the thermostat while workers are being laid off in bunches. Or the 8-10 suck ass, never worked a full period on the street, assholes who walk around our districts shuffling paper and handing vice case reports back to working coppers for a missing cb#!! These so called "police" would round out the "CU" scale.
I apoligize for the rant boys and girls, but just when I figure we can't do anything less productive or morale crushing here we go again!!
A Big Salute to the Flanagan family for reaching out to coppers and firefighters!!!
Thank-You for turning a terrible tragedy into something good:
Increase in suicides among cops, firefighters
http://www.wbbm780.com/Increase-in-suicides-among-cops--firefighters/4388272
I guess they think the sergeants don't have enough to do.
Doesn't this give the "urban citizens of Chicago" the tacit approval to greatly expand the number of unjust calls to CPD complaining about how badly they have been treated or spoken to?
And on the 13 Day of May The God's Spoke "we will judge our Officer's on attitude, adaptability and lets throw in acountability". I don't believe these idiots have come up with this plan, at a time when morale on this department is down the toilet. Do they believe this will be the remedy. Dugan wants the Officers to maintain their professionalism, I want to maintain my existance. I want to go home safe. I want my partner to go home safe.
Dugan you and the others can judge all you want. The heart of this department is the working Police Officer,and the Heart of this department is being ripped out.
My fellow Officers be safe, Go home to your family. This to will pass. GOD BLESS THE CPD
Grade me all you want. I still ain't signing a mutherfuckin' thing.
Our Lt. pulled up the computerized performance evaluation/activity report on the computer. We were told that our activity would affect any time off that we ask for as well as car assignments. Our Lt. told us that he will pull up your activity and would be justified in denying elective time off.
Our boss said he was very concerned about the new system. He stated that the bosses wouldn't say anything bad about the system because they are afraid they will lose their spot but we as PO's need to call the union and have this scrapped.
This evaluation system will affect your days off, your chances for merit promotion, your special employment and your chances to move to a unit.
The system is flawed in several ways. Again it is a biased system. In looking at the system, the only thing that counts is #'s. Now I know it's always been that way but there are MANY days I am out there going from job to job and check off with a big fat ZERO. Does that mean I am not out there working? I could go out there and lock someone up for a nickel bag to get an activity # but I prefer to be available as much as possible in case my fellow officers need help. Locking someone up for a pimpy arrest shorts the folks on the street and makes back-up scarcer than it already is. I'm not about the nickel bag, I'm about the police officers out there. If they want to judge me on my activity, document how many RD's I generate, how many calls I code, how many assists I offer on other peoples jobs and how many details I have that waste away my days. This should be counted as my activity as well as everything else.
Medical time is documented in this report. Now yes we know there are abusers out there but I may be on the medical 4 x a year; 3 days each WITH a doctor note justifying that I was sick enough to seek medical attention. WHY should that be counted against me? My doctor validated my reason for being off sick. It doesn't make me a medical abuser.
Third is that supervisors are able to enter comments about you which stay in your file FOREVER! So lets just say that Sgt. Brown and I don't get along. Sgt. Brown decided that he's going to comment every time I do something that he doesn't like... improper uniform, mistake on paperwork, didn't clear from my job right away. But Dolly on the other hand does the same things as I do but the supervisor chooses not to leave comments on her report. Now lets say I get sued in court. All of these comments are discoverable in court. The defense attorney looks at this and says... Geez you have been a problem officer for quite some time. Your supervisor has written these things about you. Not Good!!!! Even if Sgt. Green writes a few good comments, you know as well as I do, that the bad things are going to stick out.
So my point is that if one of your bosses doesn't like you, you're screwed. You will go nowhere on this job.
I don't know if everyone knows about this whole "supervisor comment" thing. It seems to be on the down-low because I talked to a friend in another district and they were not told of this.
I do know that the FOP was present at the meeting regarding the new evaluation system and am wondering WHY they haven't told its members..
Back in the day, what I did was pick a number that I would accept for my rating, and sign for it, but any thing lower, I would refuse.Like about 95. I just would tell the Sgt.that I refuse to sign anything lower than 95, and usually, the Sgt. would then change the number to 95, and present it to me again. Once the Sgt.s knew I wouldn't sign bullshit, they went along pretty well, because they could see how unfair it really was. Desk bitches got 100's and working coppers got what was left.TOTAL POPULARITY CONTEST.(tho I now work inside, I still disagree with this nonsense)
I am curious, if the rank and file believe that Police Officers should not have their performance evaluated, but want promotions and advancement to be based on performance and not "popularity", how can this occur if performance is not evaluated and quantified?
If there is no evaluation of performance, then how can a supervisor filling a position in a desirable unit possibly base a decision on anything other than a "phone call" to others that have worked with the candidate, and isn't this informal qestioning ripe for corruption of the process?
I seriously don't understand.
I'd feel much better if we rated our peers...and our supervisors.
This rating system will work great, you know why?
There is a large percentage of this department that is a bunch of spineless pussies who never stand up for themselves when the City and these fucking crook politician merit exempts push them around.
The other percentage on this job is just a bunch of ass kissing TRU/MSF "I am only out for myself, I work in this unit cause it works for me," selfish assholes. They will do whatever they are told just to keep their precious spot, even if that means selling out the rest of us who might be carrying the workload so you can take 3 hour lunches and not answer jobs all night while pursuing nickel bags and crack-pipes.
I am sure the rating system will work out great and hopefully some people who didn't belong on this job to start with will get shitcanned (although you know that will never happen).
The department should start by rating JPUD and his FBI buddies who have completely destroyed this once proud department. JPUD, you get an "F" or in the new rating terminolgy "does not meet expectations."
On a side note, Rick Francis was one of those outstanding wagon men, as well. His absence still saddens us.
5/13/2009 01:22:00 AM
F-ing A. Miss ya Rick.....
With all of the clout babies in white shirts these days, working coppers get resentful.
Clout is one thing, but what about those that falate their way up???
Documents from the Cook County Recorder of Deeds' office indicate that Stroger owes $11,668.10 in income taxes to the federal government.
The Internal Revenue Service has put a lien on Stroger's house for the debt in an effort to get him to pay it off.
THIS DEPARTMENT WENT FROM BAD TO HORRIBLE........STILL NO CONTRACT AND EVEYONE STILL DOING THEIR JOB. WHAT OTHER PROFESSION WOULD DO THERE JOB WITHOUT A CONTRACT???
Who evaluates the evaluators? An effective evaluation program must be objective, not subjective. It needs to be fair and consistent across the ranks. How can a supervisor effectively evaluate someone they have limited work experience with? If your job is to keep the peace and uphold the law, how can you or why should you be evaluated on how much revenue (tickets issued)you generate? The district that is back logged all the time has little or no time to generate revenue. Districts are unevenly staffed, thereby affecting how many calls are handled by so few officers. The type of criminal activity varies from district to district. So because the arrests are higher or lower in a particular district makes those officers more or less productive? How do these situations play into the evaluation process? Not every officer performs the same job (ie. house mouse versus patrol officer...both had the same training and are the same rank but do different jobs),so what consistent merits are there to accurately,consistently, fairly, and objectively evaluate these officers? The mastermind behind this fiasco has not thought this through and will create further problems in the CPD. Evaluations are suppose to be positive and measure an employee's job performance based upon fair, consistent and objective measures. There should be no surprises. If there is something wrong with an employee's performance, the evaluation should not be the first time the employee hears about a problem, or be praise for that matter. The supervisors should be pointing out problems or giving out praise on a regular basis so issues can be id beforehand and improved upon prior to the evaluation. FOP better be on this. Good luck guys.
PS I'm just a citizen who appreciates and supports your dedication and hard work.
let the sucking up begin....I never signed the old ones and will not sign these!
SCC:"We smell a quota system. So does the FOP evidently"
Welcome to the Suburbs boys and girls.Want to be totally treated like a three year old by sociopathic malignant narcissists?
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Great job to the MSF guys who were involved in that shooting in 007the other night. Gangster points .357 at the police's head in a gangway..........police do what they are trained to do.
I know I am going to get flamed for the following post about these MSF guys.....I do have 9yrs on the job so here goes. I have run acorss these guys proabaly 15-20 times now in the past 3weeks.
Those guys has the scene taped off and contained by the time us district coppurs arrived. That helped prevent the crowd gathering. They were calm and collected on the radio too. Very professional, very appreiative. P.O. involved thanked as many of the guys for showing up as he could before he was snatched up by the brass. Great work. Thanks for helping us out in 007. Nice to see 10-cars on scenes when we are in foot pursuits and caling for help.
While I can't say this about all of them this team seams to have their stuff in line.I hope most of the other teams are the same way. Thanks again for the extar help.
Mids 4 life
Police work is not cut & dried or black & white. Coppers are unique individuals who MUST improvise 'on the fly' and adapt instantaneously in order to survive and protect society. Most officers do it sufficiently, many do it well and some do it as an art form.
Officers do it every day based "Generally" on "General Orders". If there was an exact guide on how to handle EVERY situation, they would be called "Exact Orders" or "Absolute Orders". If they did exist, they'd be the size of 10 sets of Encyclopedias and expanding every day.
My point is, if you are sufficient at being a police officer, 1) how terrible is that, 2) how can you quantify that, 3) who in the hell was such a perfect Officer that they can critique your work and 4) unless they are riding shotgun with you, they really don't have a clue of what your value as a PO really is.
Having said all that, I believe the only reason they insist on bringing the evaluations back, is that there is a city ordinance requiring all city employees to be evaluated.
This is a golden opportunity to stick it to jfed.... if EVERY person is found to have a bad attitude, ie low morale, how can jfed weasel his way around that? take the resut to mr arbitor and show that, yes, this city sux. pay us and let us live elsewhere.
Its nice to see that this only applies to P.O.'s. It would be nice to see some of these merit bosses rated. They could be scored on failure to ever have a felony arrest. Or failure to ever visit 26th and cal, or failure to know what a 101 looks like. Or maybe they could get extra credit for a triple merit promotion.
I may not have spotted a suspect, but I spotted a police imposter about a year back....
Since the Human Resource department feels coppers from the 20, 21, 22 districts are inferior and can only nominate one person for a (shameless) merit promotion, does that mean they will get graded easier at evaluation time????
Believing in "J-Fed" as a Superintendent, is about as smart as walking into Northwestern Hospital after suffering a heart attack, and letting the hospital "Administrator" cut you open and operate on you while all the surgeons sit back and shake their heads in disbelief!
Hey inside, I disagree. The hardcore and dollies never were graded legitimately.
I'm going to get you for that comment.
Imagine what the "attitude" ratings will be when our contract comes back from arbitration next year with a net salary and benefit decrease of 10%...
Do only what it takes to make sure each and every one of us goes home safe and NOTHING more, that is the only attitude that matters.
Semper Fidelis
I should be set for life with 99.9's as eval scores.
I walked into 35th street and spotted dozens of suspects, all impersonating the police.
The formula for police corruption is:
Supervisors demanding activity "Quotas" = Police Misconduct
Demanding quotas is a federal crime.Supervisors should know this.
Any officer fulfilling a quota is violating the civil rights of citizens.
I suggest that you report any city employee, sworn officer or supervisor who orders you to perform your duties based on a demand for activity "quota" to the Department of Justice.
The law makes it unlawful for State or local law enforcement officers to [engage in a pattern or practice of conduct] that deprives persons of rights protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. (42 U.S.C. § 14141). The types of conduct covered by this law can include, among other things, excessive force, [discriminatory harassment], [false arrests], coercive sexual conduct, and [unlawful stops, searches or arrests]. In order to be covered by this law, the misconduct must constitute a ["pattern or practice"] -- [it may not simply be an isolated incident].
A supervisor ordering activity is clearly establishing a pattern and practice "quota system" to violate the Constitutional rights of others.
[It is a crime for one or more persons acting under color of law willfully to deprive or conspire to deprive another person of any right protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.] (18 U.S.C. §§ 241, 242). "Color of law" simply means that the [person doing the act is using power given to him or her by a governmental agency (local, State, or Federal)]. A [law enforcement officer] acts "under color of law" even if he or she is exceeding his or her rightful power. The types of law enforcement misconduct covered by these laws include excessive force, sexual assault, intentional false arrests, or the intentional fabrication of evidence resulting in a loss of liberty to another. Enforcement of these provisions does not require that any racial, religious, or other discriminatory motive existed.
How to File a Complaint with DOJ?
Send written reports naming the Superintendent, the Deputy Superintendent of your bureau and all the way down to the supervisor ordering activity "quotas" to:
Criminal Section
Civil Rights Division
U.S. Department of Justice
P.O. Box 66018
Washington, D.C. 20035-6018
Or
Civil Enforcement
If you would like to file a complaint alleging violations of the Police Misconduct Statute, Title VI, or the OJP Program Statute, you may send a written complaint to:
Coordination and Review Section
Civil Rights Division
U.S. Department of Justice
P.O. Box 66560
Washington, D.C. 20035-6560
The Superintendent publicly and privately has asked police officers to be more aggressive. Being more "aggressive" is another code for violating the Constitutional rights of others. The executive command staff meets every Friday to discuss police activity and demands activity from street commanders. Again, more pressure is being exerted to establish a pattern and practice throughout the department to establish a quota system. Your watch commander or supervisor demanding activity is a "quota."
Publicly the department says it has not quota system. And yet we have to submit an activity report at check off-roll call with numbers.
One very simple question. Who gets to evaluate and score the exempts??? You know, the one's that are the problem with this once great department.
Imagine being rated by the inept boobs who comprise the command staff of this demented organization!
Anonymous said...
See who's spearheading this non-sense? Dugan, the same guy everyone has this undying love for. Still feeling the love for this epitome of the Company man?
5/13/2009 01:59:00 AM
Spearheading ?
Only the Superintendent has the authority to initiate policy or issue General Orders.
Dugan, spearheading? Like when he fought to get rid of the old evaluations because they were inherently unfair ? Dugan was answering questions, NOT spearheading anything.
I think you need to take you head out of your ass and look around you and get a whiff of reality. You're like Chicken Little yelling, "The sky is falling, the sky is falling".
We're lucky to have him. You may not agree now, but after he retires and you are taking your marching orders from Burger Queen or Aunt Bea, these will be the good old days.
So when ray ray and the rest of the GD's decide I've become too much of a thorn in their asses and all go in and make the usual bullshit accusations against me, the chosen one's will determine that my interaction with the public is a concern and my evaluation will reflect that? Will I then be fired for the sub-par evaluation? Yet another tool for the SCUM OF SOCIETY to get the police to stay away and just say fuck it. Kind of like the so many CR#'s and you get dumped from tact/gangs or unit a couple years ago. Yeah that really helped......
Anonymous said...
5/13/2009 06:38:00 AM
WOW ! Looks like somebody got a bad evaluation from somebody.
At least he has the balls to confront him face to face, mano a mano.
Coward.
This idea is stupid. But who cares! You can't be fired or not get your raise so fuck it! Everyone needs to stop crying like a little bitch! We should be used to this by now! More nonsense should not shock us! It's another GREAT idea by another dumbfuck! They have to appear as if they are doing and know how to do their jobs. More stupid ideas are coming- everytime you cry about these ideas they laugh at us. How many stupid ideas last or change a thing?! Crying about these things are like responding to a shithead that says he just fucked your mom- just ignore it and consider the source!
too funny.. if they like you ..you can do no wrong. if they dont.. you cant do enough. i wonder what scores the bosses kid/ el dorko and miss shake your ass gets? take it for what it is...a tool to prod you to write more movers and parkers.
You mean to tell me that a dog ass lockup coward, who is afraid to work the streets and stands in front of the station or behind the desk for half the tour(017) is gonna be rated the same way as someone who works the streets an goes out there to do the job that he signed up for?
To all you guys ripping Dan Dugan:
Don't you realize that he is speaking the company line as directed by his superior?
Dan Dugan has always had the back of every coppers on this job and he proved it last week.
Everyone has a boss, even Dugan.
Lay off the guy. He's just doing his job.
it is not so much rating, it is a computer system that will take averages from people in the same position are doing, and will compare you to that, it will then be a color coded system to show where you are at. The problem was it couldn't differentiate between a desk person in patrol vs. a beat officer, but they were working on that last I heard.
Have a supervisor pull it up for you so you can look at it, it's a lot of work by someone, for what accounts to a lot of big brother bullshit
I read this story last night. I logged onto the CPD system to check my "stats". I then compaired them to my ticket books that I keep. Well, in true Chicaog form, my posted numbers are off! Some desk jocky that never goes on the street cant even do data entry properly. Will I get negative points for having a bad attiude for brining this up to a supervisor??
The majority of bosses on this job are a f*c*ing JOKE!!!! I have worked in three depts two being big city departments. I should have stayed with the first one. I have never scene worse leadership in any organization. AIG, Bear Sterns.... if the Chicago Police Department were an orgainzation they would have had to been bailed out several times by the ferderal goverment. I am lucky that I work for a boss who is one of the rare bosses who has earned his spot.
I want to smash daley's face in... How's my f'ing attitude j-fed???
Another morale booster from 35th St., Nice! Keep writing those parkers and movers kids, especially those parking meters.
I know a retired sgt who used to give everyone a 98.6, the temperature of the human body!
Hey, didn't Medjinowski get a 98% years ago? Priceless, it's all legit.
i work in area 2. what do you think my attitude is like?
One big problem with evaluations is that supervisors hate doing them as much as the officers hate getting them. They recognize the futility of trying to be fair in an unfair system. And they hate the extra work, regardless of that being what they get the 'big bucks' for.
Another problem is that it is difficult for anyone to accept a critical evaluation from someone they do not respect. With all of the clout babies in white shirts these days, working coppers get resentful.
And DUH ! I was once handed MY evaluation card by my westside 3 time, merit promoted Lt that had this comment on the back:
"HAS THE RESPECT OF HIS PEERS AND INSUBORDINATES ALIKE".
True story.
That Lt. is probably a commander now...
Blue shirts should be able to evaluate bosses also.
COOTER will do well!
I agree with 5/13/2009 01:04:00 AM
Refuse to sign this worthless document and let's see what J-Fed's illustrious "think tank" comes up with next.
They are getting ahead of themselves. Before I sign it, give us a contract. Before I sign it, define merit. Before I sign it, tell us how it will get us promoted/demoted.
Anonymous said...
...whom are they going to base the level of "politeness" on?...
5/13/2009 05:37:00 AM
I am here today to acknowledge that I am the one who was used as the model as the ideal example of "politeness".
I was "polite" as a child and as I grew older, I continued to be "polite". In fact, I really think that I continue to be the epitome of "politeness" to this day.
I know. It's kind of obnoxious and arrogant of me to say I am the ideal in "politeness", but hey, those traits, obnoxiousness and arrogance, really can't be applied to me as they are "impolite".
I remember once posting a comment here on SCC. It was really a "polite" comment, but someone took umbrage to what I said and decided to call me an Asshat. It was really uncalled for, but rather than be "impolite" I chose to remain upbeat and ignore the jerk who chose to criticize me.
Then, though, some asswipe 2 year hair-gel mother trucker, also badmouthed me and that just pissed me off like you can't friggin' believe. You cork suckin, mother forkin, jack hooves on this blog have a lot of frickin' balls to be slandering me. Sometimes you nearly friggin' cause me to forkin' break right outta my gosh dang shell and become "impolite".
But then, I revert back to my "polite" upbringing and everything is right with the world.
See what I'm sayin' ? All that and not one curse word.
Wizzo the clown says......DOOOO DEEEE DOOOOOO DEEEEEE DOOOOO!! and with a waive of my magic wand.....PRESTO!!!
Boys and girls have a relative who is a labor lawyer. Keep records of everything be prepared to file legal action against supervisors. illinois may soon over turn evesdropping laws if so mic yourself up.
We were told about this in roll call for past few months. What the hell is going on?
Jfed just keeps making moves that improve morale.
My attitude can be summed up nicely as follows:
"FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING FUCKS!"
Now have a nice day.
;-)
5/13/2009 01:44:00 AM
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AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!
First and foremost I ain't spotting shit. I could give a rat's ass what happens in the shithole of a city until I get a contract. Now go grade me on this proverb "go fuck yourself"
Is there going to be a grade for best hairgel performance by a newbie cop ?
I work in an ofice at 35th St and I have been on for a while---this came from Dugan all the way. Daley is starting to exert pressure on the Deputy's because they guaranteed him, if they got promoted, they would straighten out this department when J fraud got here. Jackson & Dugan told him they would get shootings down and arrests up so Chicago can get the Olympics. Peterson said he will get the dicks to drive shootings down so as to make Chicago look good to get the olympics. Daley let J Fraud hire his 3 know nothing buddies at $150K+, so he can get the olympics. Daley then puts in this 29 year old son of a judge, Mike (I can carry a gun and if they get a number on me just dump head of IAD and put a new one in)Masters as a Chief at 160K+ and OKeefe at even more big money and then he let the politicians have who they want as exempts. The phones went crazy and alas you have the NEW most political and incompetent Command Staff in CPD history.
Daley was guaranteed he was going to get the olympics so he can dole out all those millions of construction contracts.
Well the troops see these Commander Clowns and begin a slow down not because we are being led by idiots, but because they try and screw with police, merit promotions NO RAISES etc. Add to this the Alderman and Mayor give themselves a 6 1/2% raise every year but tell working police there is no money for them. This equals more slow down. Here comes the vote of No Conficdence for J Fraud. Daley is fuming, he now looks stupid to the nation. Add to this the numbers of people being shot in this city are going through the roof. Daley is really fuming. Area 2 (specifically 003 & 004 are on fire and led by bumbling fools)and these 2 districts are coming to Daley's attention everyday. Daley demanded action.
Dugan and his #1 Chief EW now recently go to the Mayor and tell him as a last ditch effort we will whip this department and crush this low morale problem with a new rating system. They will have to make arrests, and write tickets for you or else. (Sounds like quota ARE YOU LISTENING A.C.L.U.) So there it is.
And believe me every gold star in this building reads this blog, I can't tell you the number of times when you walk by you see the blue screen on the monitor.
Stay together, stay safe
"fail to spot a suspect in a vehicle stop"Would I fail that portion of the exam? I haven't perform a traffic stop in quite sometime!
No traffic stop = no "suspects" = good times!
Good times = no dealing with shitheads + no dealing with the crappy Desk Sgt or the lazy lockup keepers.
Your good "karma" that you exercise while on patrol in the ghetto allows you to sleep in a little longer since you don't have to rush out to court.
Sleeping in = best thing ever, man!
Plus that ticket book of mine has hit the ol' dusty trail!
You know those mopes that wave to you while you're cruising down the block?
They on some bullshit but I just wave back.
I'm like a UN Peacekeeper!
And just like the UN I always get there too late and when I finally arrive I usually can't solve their problem(s).
I'm just not adept at solving these confusing "ethnic" crises in the inner city.
Let me get this right, the department is establishing a rating system for police officers. Now who establishes the rating system for dummies?
Look out cooter the dept is trying to get u back on that Bis program again.
This rating this sucks, doesn't work and is fixed. Fuck That!
Back when I pushed a beat car. I handled 3x more jobs that jo jo the dog ass cop who his in the hole or layed down on every job. I still managed to come in with a head or two each day. I even wrote my share of parkers and movers. I never hit the medical unlike like jo jo the dog ass cop.
When it came down to evaluations. The boss would give me the usual mid to high 90's rating but then because they didn't have too many jo jo coppers in the 90's let alone 80's ratings, they gave him the same rating as me so their wouldn't be, you know - a race issue. Unfuckingbelievable. Happened everytime. Take your rating system and shove it up your J-Fed ass.
Ok let me get this right,we need police officers,from 1400 to 8200.no pdts .no radios,cars,a retard for a boss.and no contract.an
d they are going to rate us.fucking insane.right cooter.
"Hey Boss! How's this rant rate on the "Attitude" portion of my evaluation?
5/13/2009 01:04:00 AM"
Fucking Outstanding!
You're fired.
You'll see all the Female POs with big tits getting high marks, yummmmy...the rest of you will just have to pay for good marks...its the Chicago way
Under the old system my lowest rating for six months was a 54.
(out of 100 for you new guys)
I'm aiming lower next time!
NO CONTRACT?
FUCK THEM!
I have sen you guys mentioning that you applied the city flag upside down on your uniforms. I attended an Uptown Safet Meeting and noticed the other night that Commander Boehmer from the 23rd District has also applied her flag to her uniform upside down. I was not able to see if Commander Moy of the 20th has done the same because I have never seen her in a uniform.
Do all Commanders have uniforms? When is a Commander required to wear a uniform?
A citizen wants to know.
As a side note from an outside perspective I am quite happy with the Commander of the 23rd district, granted she probably gets more help from her community than other districts, but with that I am sure she has added scrutiny.
I hope the officers like her as much as I do.
Just my thought as a law abiding and Police supporting citizen.
In order for a performance system to be effective, then results will need to be CLEARLY defined. There also better be monthly assesments of how the supervisor and person being evaluated see the progress of towards the CLEARLY defined goals. Without CLEARLY defined goals and regular progress assesments, anyone receiving less than perfect evaluations should be able to grieve the results of their ratings.
The rating system is designed to protect house mice.
Police make arrests. That is the only statistic that is worth anything. House mice don't make arrests. They would fail any legitimate rating system.
So, they designed an illegitimate one.
Anyone who has some time on the job knows the following to be true;
That "super producer" that gets great evaluations isn't normally the best copper in the unit.
Likewise, that fatass do nothing with the stained shirt that sits next to you at roll call will tend to rise to the occasion when the shit hits the fan and save your ass, sometimes under fire.
Don't judge each other on numbers and attaboys. Leave that to the asshole supervisors.
If the Jodyfraud wants a department with a better attitude,
he should do the following;
1. Push for a fair contract for the men and women of the C.P.D.,
2. Give a legit promotional exam,
3. Don't go through with your subjective rating system,
4. Eliminate merit promotions,
5. Change some of your very bad choices for gold stars.
Morale,attitide, and crime would no longer be an issue.
Looks like you're just afraid of being evaluated. Welcome to the real world. The rest of us go through this every year. Why not you ?
Has anyone seen my stapler?
Smoke & mirrors by j-fed as orchestrated by shortshanks in revenge for the decline in police generated revenue over the last couple years... would love to see the numbers regarding the percentage of revenue generated by CPD for the city coffers over the last oh... say 10 years? I'm sure the fall-off over the last two years has scared shorty pretty bad so he's been striking back by negotiating our contract through the media in the court of public opinion trying to poison most citizens against any decent contract for us.
Rolling out a rating system that is sure to be slanted, crooked and biased as the old one is his revenge.
Oh! For you civilian and media trollers out there... Would you sign your name in ink to an evaluation form filled out in pencil? Knowing full well that whatever positive, glowing remarks would/could be erased and replaced with the equivalent of cipherable dog-shit (again, bull-shit at least has redeeming commercial value) that would/could be used to fuck you out of raises and o/t? ...Yeah, I didn't think you would.
It's all about revenue... no provisions for how many jobs you had to clear out of your stack because of a RAP that's been in place for 6-8 hours and most were paper jobs with people pissed off because they called at 1900hr and there were no Police to send until 0100 or later. Factor in a shooting/car-chase-other major incident and the Police just cannot come, we're all tied up on jobs.
I hope to see the day come soon that some heavy yuppie, media hack, politico or bigshot contributor (or one of their sweet & tender family members) to short-biggie REALLY REALLY HURTFULLY have a need for the POLICE to show up and handle business asap and there are no Police to be sent regardless of how good or bad you think their attitude should be.
Hopefully the real citizens of this city are awake & aware enough that they haven't fallen prey to the mind rotting enchanting melody played by the piper & his media spin-meisters... The rest are being led away to the sea shore to be drowned...
WE GOT A MEMO FROM DUGAN'S OFFiCE...
It was a list of all officers in the (very busy district) who made none or only two, three or four arrests all of 2008.
The list was ALL LOCK-UP KEEPERS, DESK OFFICERS, COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS, plus a few footmen, wagonmen and the review and citation guys! It is available on-line and I am sure some busybody in Danny's Office worried about having to work in a real police station someday made one for every district.
This had to be, one of the best what were they thinking jokes to come out of 35th St. in a while.
Ummmmmm Yeahhhhhhhh..ahhhhhhhh.I am going to need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday...ahhhh..Yeahhhhhhh
Rate this..... _.i..
GCG
Dear Mr Mare,
We all know that times are tough but do you want to improve the citys income. I have one very good way you can do this. Settle our contract.
You see Mr Mare if you settle our contract and bring back some morale all those illegal parkers that are driven by will start to get written. And let me tell you I know we drive by alot of them and give alot more play to the good citizens of our fine city than we ever have before.
I can honestly say if you figured out how many parkers and movers that are not being written it would amount into the tens of millions.
Mr Mare, bring back the morale and happy faces and settle our contract and I can bet that we will bring smiles to your face. :)$
Unlike the suburbs we dont operate on a quota system but if you settle our contract, give us a livable raise we will go back to working hard.
Dont misunderstand we bust our ass everyday going from job to job and doing our job to the best of our abilities but we will write those parkers and movers and make more dough for the city instead of just driving by those traffic violators.
Mr Mare do the right thing, and settle our contract.
Thanks you for listening
Any questions you can call me at 911
Anonymous said...
See who's spearheading this non-sense? Dugan, the same guy everyone has this undying love for. Still feeling the love for this epitome of the Company man?
5/13/2009 01:59:00 AM
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No truer words were spoken. This fuck Dugan is EXZACTLY the kind of clout protector asshole we DON'T need in judgement or in charge of the judgement system in ANY way.
Dugan is the PERFECT model of a "fuck that guy for me will ya, so I don't have to?" boss.
Dugan is an outstanding example of the old style shithead "brick 'em cause my friends don't like him" kinda boss.
There is NO such thing as a fair "subjective" rating system administered by humans.
It doesn't exists, and to imply that any one of these fuckhead exempts can be trusted standing in judgement of others is a joke, and to allege that the Sgt's involved in doing the judging aren't to be intimidated by any outranking officer is the punchline to that same pathetic joke.
Anyone recall the days when the Sgt. would get their rating cards with the numbers penciled in already? Just waiting for them to overwrite the pencil in pen?
We used to hand them over to the officers with the pencil marks in tact so they could SEE they were being rated by the front office.
Screw you JFuk, you're as pathetic as those you surround yourself with and work for.
Anonymous said...
I cant wait till someone is denied a step raise because of their attitude or demeanor. Just cant wait for a judge to hear this one. "your honor....this man was denied a step raise because he's a real curmudgeon". Boy is J-Pud surrounding himself with idiots or what? Just cant wait to get in on this lawsuit I'm going to become an even bigger curmudgeon.
5/13/2009 02:28:00 AM
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This happens more than you're aware of. Step raises are commonly denied to those who've been documented with regular spars, CRs, etc. If you're due for a step raise and the boss don't like you, watch the pimpy pathetic paper fly to justify the denial.
I smell class action lawsuit in the works!
This will be another popularity contest!
They must have watched the movie "Employee of the Month" with Dane Cook and Jessica Simpson. Who'll get the most gold stars? Who'll get the employee of the month parking spot?
This job is nothing but a joke.
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Don't we have enough shit to worry about already?
Check out what our friends at Channel 5 have to say on this topic:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Cops-May-Get-Attitude-Adjustment.html
I have 10 years on....just made 10 and am counting down to 20...is that a bad sign?
This should be real interesting. Performance reviews have been absent for about 7 years. You are going to have clout heavy white shirts with so little time on the job, that they have never been the subject of the old review system when they were POs. Now they are going to be called on to review others, never having been in the process themselves!
Ide love to see the burger queen hales report card.
Waht would Weiss rate himself.
Dammit your gonna have high morale or youll be given a poor performance rating!!!!!!!
If everyone lays down this will show them.
Of course you always have the k@ss @ss traffic cops with their Fri Sat days off
Dugan sux i cant believe how many of you hes conned. He frequently kicks back disciplinary recommendations by front line supervisors cause the discipline isnt severe enough.
He shows on a weekly basis how he is Weisses lapboy/enforcer.
Jeez...first Jackson, now Dugan?
Will any exempt still remaining who hasn't been forced out by WEISel have the guts to NOT sell out our brothers in blue?
"I have 10 years on....just made 10 and am counting down to 20...is that a bad sign?
5/13/2009 04:25:00 PM"
Only if you're talking about your marriage.
"Looks like you're just afraid of being evaluated. Welcome to the real world. The rest of us go through this every year. Why not you ?
5/13/2009 03:04:00 PM"
No, you don't.
Dear Dan Dugan,
Fuck you right in your mouth.
4 years left. It's way too late to do anything about my attitude. Miserable rat fucks like you have lied to me for too many years.
But if you really want to do something to improve morale and attitude, how about something really novel and unique: settle the contract and all future contracts in a timely manner. Be fair. We will be reasonable.
How about published criteria for merit promotions? How about regular promotional exams like Richard M. Daley promised us years ago.
How about building a professional organization one brick at a time by promoting only those who would make good leaders and how about leading by example.
That would really be a surprise, a supervisor who actually said "Do as I do" and "Follow me."
Forbid clout used for anything, punishable by termination. Performance is all that counts in promotions, job assignments, days off etc.
And here is a news flash Deputy Dugan: You cannot, no matter what you do, mandate a good attitude. You cannot order officers to improve their morale. If you don't know how to do it hire some retired bosses to show you how to do it. Start with recently retired Capt. John Farrell.
He can give you some tips and cluse about leadership.
Want to know who not to promote to high positions Dugan? Look in the mirror. That person should not lead anything but a parade down to the pension board to retire. Bring all your useless bastard friends with you.
Sincerely,
A Veteran PO
Anonymous said...
I have 10 years on....just made 10 and am counting down to 20...is that a bad sign?
5/13/2009 04:25:00 PM
There are plenty of bad signs all around. Look in any district roll call.
"Now who establishes the rating system for dummies?
5/13/2009 02:09:00 PM"
The dummies.
I don't know Dugan but have heard the "great guy" accolades. Well, since then I have met him when we had to go before him and explain our "numbers" and have had to do paper to explain some common sense issues he couldn't comprehend. Either he surrounds himself with complete morons or he is a total idiot!
This goof does not impress me one bit!!
I peeked at it:
Its all done on ratios per the amount of time for the fiscal year and the amount of medical events (times you pick up the phone to say I am going on the medical) I guess over 5 would RED the box. Yellow is caution and Green is good.
Saw some people with 11 or MORE events already and its MAY!!!! ( I haven't been on the medical in 8 plus years just because its a hassle to go to 35th st. so I dropped slips....
Not knocking the medical people WHO ACTUALLY NEED the events but some of the abusers will be obvious...I figure no matter how hard you try as a Sgt. to be "cool" with someone ....YOU CAN'T....Its on the computer!
Also the amount of tickets/parkers/movers/arrests/Cr's/Log#'s too & TRR's (yes TRR's which are supposed to be a positive thing seem to fall in a negative light here) Contact cards as well??? That is nuts! But they want to know you are doing something I guess....
Nothing about how many JOBS YOU CODE OUT or warnings you give out.
Attitude?
I didn't see anything like that on there unless there is another part that you fill out with a narrative or something...
They will now know IF the Sgt. is for the COMPANY or the PERSONNEL...because the numbers are going to be what they are and if you do not (as a SGT.) rate appropriately....kiss your LT promotion Good Bye!
Have Fun!
"Stay together, stay safe
5/13/2009 01:55:00 PM"
Was it your intent to give me a hard on?
"With all of the clout babies in white shirts these days, working coppers get resentful.
Clout is one thing, but what about those that falate their way up???
5/13/2009 10:18:00 AM"
What do you really think clout is?
"See what I'm sayin' ? All that and not one curse word.
5/13/2009 01:12:00 PM"
Yeah, but you said "umbrage", which I take umbrage with.
In the past evaluation system I recall getting a low evaluation from a Sgt that I NEVER worked for.
The low evaluation was so that he could give his buddies higher ones.
On the eval. card he cited that I had failed to get "ENOUGH" CTA bus checks.
I refused to sign the eval. card.
and immediately after roll call, I stopped at the bus barn and picked up a stack blank of bus checks!
Whine, Whine, Whine. Just do your job, stop staying down on nonsense calls.
5/13/2009 08:05:00 AM
I will take even longer now. I work in 011 and no matter how bad I am, there are bigger dogs than me so rate that!
Just checked my department e-mail. They put out the attached survey regarding stress and morale....EMAIL MESSAGE FROM SUPERINTENDENT
The Chicago Police Department is conducting a survey of all Department members regarding stress and morale. This survey is completely voluntary. The Department is interested in your experiences and hopes that you will take the time to participate. The survey will take approximately 10 – 15 minutes to complete. The survey will end 13 June 2009 at 0000 hours.
The survey can be accessed at www.surveymonkey.com/worksurvey. A link to this survey has also been posted on the Department's intranet homepage. The link reads "Link to Stress and Morale Survey."
In order to ensure members feel comfortable answering questions in an honest and forthright manner, the Department has contracted with the University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC) to host the web survey. When you initially log-in to the survey, you will be asked to provide your PC login number. PC login numbers are collected to link demographic data (e.g.: years on the job) and unit of assignment/detail to survey responses. However, the data UIC will provide to the Department will NOT include your PC login number and will NOT allow the Department to identify whether you participated in the survey or to link survey responses specifically to you.
Thank you for your participation – your honesty in responding to this survey is highly valued.
Office of the Superintendent
3510 S. Michigan Ave
Chicago, Il. 60653
(312)745-6100
Mickey "THE RAT" Mealer for Superintendent. Can I grade that little crying fuck. I wish i had four hand so i could give that Bitch four thumbs down.
luberman will be supt by end of year,fuck'em all bitches
We can beat them at their own game. What I used to do when we had the old evaluation system was to keep a record of everything I did. I would start by putting the time I hit the street after roll call and write every job I had, how long each one was, any RD #’s associated with it, etc, etc… I would also keep track of all other activity such as movers, parkers, and bus checks etc… If the bosses want to screw with you this info has a tendency to get lost. This info also makes great evidence should you find it necessary to challenge the evaluation with the Area deputy or even before a judge. I would probably keep track of backlogs and how many cars are down, also. The more info that you have the better.
5/13/2009 09:09:00 AM
Remember - SCC suggested a while ago to start logging stuff in notebooks. Just as this person has been doing all along.
Oh stop getting all of your panties twisted! This rating system isn't going to negatively impact 99% of the troops. As a previous poster commented, if a supervisor is going to document negative observations, it's going to be up to that supervisor to get that person to "meet expectations" prior to submitting a final annual rating.
Further, it won't be just one supervisor that will grade you.
Beyond negative observations, the system is supposed to be used to document positive observations prior to the final annual rating as well so that theoretically these observations could substantiate a merit promotion. Though I'll believe it when I see it, it's not a bad concept on that level.
The trainers of the system claimed that FOP took part in putting the rating system together. I would like to know how factual those claims are.
Lastly though OT, Rick Francis was not only a great wagon man, but a great guy. Today is his birthday. I'm thinking about you Rick and wishing you were here with us buddy.
This is private biz trying to use a private biz rating system on police work. Can't be done. Can't quantify some things we do.
And FOP was at the presentation. The presentation crew/makers of this system took FOP's silence for assent. Which it wasn't.
And supervisors are going to have to tread lightly. Because everything entered into this system is discoverable. As in Loevy & Loevy asking for it all for a lawsuit involving an officer.
And comments stay in the system forever. There is no "expunge by" date.
And then there's the issue of writing a comment that is negative in some mericloutorious baby's file...we all know where that'll go. The baby will go to the clout, the supervisor will look like an asshole, end of story.
Anonymous said...
I work in an ofice at 35th St
You lost me at "ofice"(sp.
This was Anne Egan's program until they threw her under the bus, not Ladner. I'll repeat saying this, we are looking like a department under a Consent Decree. LAPD went into their TEAMS II program, which we are copying. A performance evaluation program was mandated by the Consent Decree, in addition to other odious features. It would appear that our next keepers will be DOJ. LAPD is still under the Consent Decree and cannot get out from under it some nine years later. I truly pity you young ones on the job, because in a very short time you're going to look back and wonder where the hell CPD went. This is what "modern management" does by those who have not done time in the organization, who have not earned their rank, and who do not understand working the streets.
There is absolutely no way to come up with a fair evaluation system, just as there's no way to come up with a fair "merit" program. Putting politics aside (easier said than done on this job), how do you identify a merit candidate? Looking strictly at numbers isn't fair because the P.O. with juice is in a unit and not tied to the radio and thus can really look good to the powers that be. The poor slug working a beat car who's humping all day, assisting fellow Officers by riding on others jobs, and handling a large volume of calls can never compete numbers-wise with those in units. And odds are, if you're in a unit, you have SOME kind of juice working for you.
I've had this argument with buddies who were in S.O.S. at the time. I've worked on the street in a district for 23 years and my activity can NEVER compete with theirs because I am tethered to this radio. But because I don't have a phone call and thus wouldn't have the activity from working a watch, that means I'm not deserving of a promotion?
I know it's a hot issue, but until they can find a fair way to promote meritoriously, it's completely subjective. Same with evaluations.
HOW ABOUT IN ORDER TO KEEP YOUR BEAT CAR YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF ARREST??? SOUNDS LIKE BULLSHIT TO ME IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT ELSE YOU DO.. NO CB NUMBER NO CAR!!!
I know this should have gone in the Blackhawk's thread, but here it is anyway!
"MINISTRY's Al Jourgensen may be credited with founding the industrial metal music scene, but for those really in the know, there is no bigger fan when it comes to hockey, and in particular, his hometown team, the Chicago Blackhawks. In fact, Jourgensen loves the Blackhawks so much, last year he gifted the team with a new theme song, "Keys to the City".
With the Blackhawks in the NHL Playoffs, Jourgensen has been applying his wit and his encyclopedic knowledge of the sport, the players and the politics to his own talk radio show, "Uncle Al's Puck Talk", heard on WXRK-FM's (104.9) Stone and Double T's show every Wednesday at 5:00 p.m. Eastern and streamed at www.wxrx.com.
To celebrate the Blackhawks' recent play-off victory against the Vancouver Canucks, and for the first time since the show's inception, Al will be taking listener calls on tomorrow's show (Wednesday, May 13) — only those calls about hockey, nothing music related. So, tomorrow, starting at 5:00 p.m./Eastern, 4:00 p.m./Central, 3:00 p.m./Mountain, 2:00 p.m./Pacific, pick up the phone and dial 815.874.2104 and talk hockey with Uncle Al.
In addition to his "Uncle Al Hockey Talk" show, Jourgensen sees the release of "Adios ...Puta Madres", a double-DVD set that documents the band's 2008 final world tour, "C U LaTouR", in stores May 26. "Adios...Puta Matres" features 15 live performance tracks and a 45-minute on-the-road "rockumentary" that follows the band from rehearsals all the way to their final shows in Europe. "
Yeah, AL is a Heavy Metal/Industrial junkie scumbag, who rabidly hated G.W. Bush, but he is a big supporter of the CPD and even bigger supporter of the Blackhawks!
everyone needs to refuse to sign these and grieve anything besides the highest grade.
HOW MANY POINTS DO I get for a third fl. shithead domestic????? 1F
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
the May academy class has been cancelled and the September class will most likely be cancelled as well.
5/10/2009 12:25:00 PM
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MEANWHILE.....
There are able and willing bodies in Callback whose cases are OVER and there are no pending Criminal Charges nor ever WERE!
People are trapped there bored and itching to get back to wherever...
Couldn't IAD do there investigations with these bodies out on the streets if there is NOTHING there...
Some were released immediately after their case was dropped but others had never made the news and should have been gone long before.
DUI cases with Officer's licenses returned and charges dropped? Leave them in callback?
No disrespect but QUALITY CONTROL?
Whatever....Solataire is good!
5/10/2009 10:03:00 PM
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Hey SCC
Heard there is someone filing a class action suit re: not being released from Callback to his/her unit after watching several others get released.
According to the situation the beef is regarding the particular officer having had no criminal charges or that they were dropped and he has been in LIMBO there for over a year in that status (like many others) I am told too..
What is IAD/IPRA doing? Do they drag investigations purposely or are they not competent enough to handle the "easy" cases or are they leaving the people there at Callback to "man" the computers because the workload is there?
If there is a workload open 376 up for more convelescent opportunities or just for bid..
Maybe IAD or IPRA is "afraid" to make a decision in these cases for fear that the officer fucks up again and they will be responsible for the release....who knows..
FOP has a paragraph written on this in their website..FYI
What gives?
I would imagine the 5th floor is worried about losing their spots if they screw up so do they "drag" things out? Are they really looking that deep in to idiotic bullshit or do they just "sit" on crap to act busy to their bosses?
Just curious...because there is manpower out there if needed!
I'm a westside copper that handles an average of 15 calls a night. I might not have a lot of arrests or bring in any movers, but I handle a lot of jobs. Is there any way that the city could evaluate that? probably not. A couple years ago one of the dumber Sgt.'s came up to me and said i needed to write more movers because the dept. wanted more well-rounded officers. I told him maybe if I had gotten a thanx from him or one of the bosses once in awhile for helping to clear out the dreaded backlog, then maybe I would write more movers. He just looked at me like a retard then ran off and told the Captain. Their brilliant idea? they put me on the traffic car. Guess what? I still didn't write any movers. In fact, when we would be in a backlog I'd volunteer to handle priority 1a jobs. After about three weeks they gave up and dumped me off the car. The moral of the story? Don't let these assholes break you or push you around. They don't have as much power as they think.
If you are at headquarters and you put 2 sugers with 1 cream when the boss wanted 1 suger and 2creams you will go under an 85 grade.
Ummm....go fuck yourself...I'm not signing a FUCKIN thing!!!!! Wait...maybe I would...yea on second thought...yes I do believe I would....If I could rate all my lazy assed-no good clout son of a bitchin bosses...including J-Fed! Since that's not gonna happen...GO FUCK YOURSELVES!!!!!
Be careful on voicing an opinion because that will give you an "attitude".
The same kiss-ass, doing the minimal work will be scored tops.
The dics should get scored differently, because only 10% do the job in that division or better yet 5%. Those tucked away on details w/out heads will also be granted good scores because of their clout.
Who has the most arrests on 2nd Watch per the new computerized stats system in each district? The officers assigned to a busy high school. They have to process the arrests handed to them by the security people assigned to the school, thereby racking up their arrest stats. They are just doing their job, but they usually lead the 2nd watch in arrests if they're assigned to a "busy" school.
I wonder what score a Det. Shaved would get? LOL
READ THE ORDER BEFORE MAKING SILLY COMMENTS!
What about the female boss whose condo was loaded with dope and guns, with a known gangbanger living there with her daughter? What would her rating be? Higher than the plain old working stiff, comin in every day in a shit district and doing his job. Fuckin narrow-minded Kool-Aid drinkers who think they are intelligent, back at it again. Why don't you fuckin Einstein's just leave us alone already? Aren't things fucked up enough already in this City, without you always having to add to it? How is this going to make anything any better for any normal, non-Clout Cops? News Flash: your bright ideas NEVER really make anything significantly better for the Department, and you are all not that sharp just because your heads are pointed...
It will be just like the awards handed out to people. How does a guy who makes hardly any felony arrests and has never been in a shooting have a chest full of medals. While some real working police that have been in good shooting and have no connections have a handful of honorable mentions. I'll let you know, because the guy with the chest full of medals is connected. It will be the same with this joke of a rating system.
Just remember that united we stand and divided we fall... The powers that be love to see us at each other's throats on this blog. The leaders of this dept know that if we stick together, they lose control of us.
Here is the only rating system you H.Q.knuckleheads need:
PASS: you are performing your job properly the majority of the time, don't have excessive time on the medical, or suspensions.
FAIL: you don't do your job properly very often, if at all, and are basically a hack-Bozo, who should have never have been a Cop in the first place, cause you just are far too clueless, even for this Department.
Plain and simple, and free of charge, and the taxpayers don't have to pay millions for BULLSHIT, AGAIN, no big studies, overtime, meetings galore, etc; etc; etc; to come up with the same thing we had before, that never accomplished anything Either.
Most sergeants have less time on the job then the P.O.'s. How can a sergeant with hardly any time on the street evaluate a 15-20 vet?
Overall, the majority of sucessful police departments in the United States are probably pretty stable in their policies, not always constantly changing everything, throwing stuff against the wall and seeing what sticks and what doesn't . This is an indicator of a dept. that is unstable, and is making decisions and changes haphazardly and without sucess. Change, just for the sake of change, is assenine, at best.
We have no where near 13,500 sworn police officers.
How many do we really have?
Our officers are demoralized, overworked and underpaid.
With that in mind, how can they expect "production" when you are running from job to job.
More fucking bullshit from a department just chock full of fucking bullshit.
Do you think a burglary crew has to go through this shit? Do the fucking Gangster Disciples or Vice Lords have idiots the likes of the ones we have to deal with? If they did they would know what to do with them right quick.
It's a fucking wonder anyone gets arrested in this town.
Instead of trying to make working conditions better, which is what is needed, they are trying arbitrary horseshit rating systems to try to force people into doing what a fair contract and good working conditions would do in a flash.
I'd say it is a great time to be in the business of pulling scores. With the CPD this fucked up a smart thief can get away with almost anything. Dugan and company will be too busy trying to codify and enforce "good attitude" to notice.
Then, though, some asswipe 2 year hair-gel mother trucker, also badmouthed me and that just pissed me off like you can't friggin' believe. You cork suckin, mother forkin, jack hooves on this blog have a lot of frickin' balls to be slandering me. Sometimes you nearly friggin' cause me to forkin' break right outta my gosh dang shell and become "impolite".
But then, I revert back to my "polite" upbringing and everything is right with the world.
See what I'm sayin' ? All that and not one curse word. (line 3)
5/13/2009 01:12:00 PM
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Whoops! I think 'pissed' is a curse word--good try though!
I think that Jody Weis should be the 1st person rated.
By Phil Cline.
This is a case of mismanagement. We're seriously short of officers and so I'm guessing calls are being shuffled in matter of priority such as murders, shootings, vehicle serious injuries/deaths, domestics, etc. (?)
So if we're short officers and these are the type of calls you're taking, what the fuck type of input are you going to get from these softballs about attitude and such?!?!?
I'm not even a cop and dealing with people taking the buses, trains, trying to even just walk down a damn sidewalk is torture.
The FOP needs to do some serious work for you people.
But then again, I hear morale truly is in the toilet from street level up to brass. It sucks having to go and do a job, let alone one where you have to enforce the law, that you positively dread and hate because of poor and lack of strong leadership.
SAD
ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THE UNION WILL DO NOTHING ABOUT.
Has anybody else completely lost faith in the so called leaders of this department or is it just me. I have 17 years on and I can honestly say I have zero faith in all the exempts. I consider myself an eduacted person and I really think that they are all ignorant to facts around them and down right stupid. I'll say it again. I think they are really just stuipd and incompetent. It is actually getting worse because these stupid bosses are grooming meritoriously other stupid bosses. Riddle me this: With any given merit selection process there are over 100 names submitted. The merit board is supposed to read all those packets. Do you people really think that they read every word of every packet. I highly fucking doubt it. It is all predetermined and you cannot convince me otherwise. They are all full of shit and stupid.
When I had about a year on, I commented on some of the old timers who were less than fireballs on the street. An answer I received from a guy with about 8 years on was that these coppers with 20-30 years on were ass kickers in their younger days and they deserve to be laid back after all these years. It struck me that they did deserve to take a break after all those years. One thing they did was give you advice any time you needed it. Feel the same way with my 20 years on. Time to slow down. Fact is too many cops with 2-3 years are dog asses. If you did your time then you can lay down. But many coppers still haven't laid down after earning a star and a bar. Just saying, you can't rate people fairly across the board.
Don't get all worked up,that's what those pussies like. No matter what Duggan says,he was chosen because these numb-nuts think he has our respect,nothing will really change.By the way, disregard my post about Duggan last night, a kiss ass like him must be a jag-off.
OT-People can say what they want about 021, but recently the tact guys have been making some pretty decent arrest. 2163 did a search warrant today and recovered crack, weed two guns which one of them was an assault rifle. Great job guys and thanks for taking a weapon that could kill one of your fellow officers in blue off the street.
an old timer
If the Jodyfraud wants a department with a better attitude,
he should do the following;
1. Push for a fair contract for the men and women of the C.P.D.,
2. Give a legit promotional exam,
3. Don't go through with your subjective rating system,
4. Eliminate merit promotions,
5. Change some of your very bad choices for gold stars.
Morale,attitide, and crime would no longer be an issue.
5/13/2009 03:00:00 PM
O K, J-Fed cannot be expected to accomplish all that.
The Lord Jesus Christ would be hard pressed to accomplish all that !
Does anyone know were Ex Assistant Chief of Staff Brian Murphy and Sgt. Gerald Breimon are doing now?
Anonymous said...
Under the old system my lowest rating for six months was a 54.
(out of 100 for you new guys)
I'm aiming lower next time!
NO CONTRACT?
FUCK THEM!
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And I'd bet you are the most popular fucking guy on your watch.
You do nothing MFers make me sick, just make more of us pick up your slack.
I can only wonder if your tires get slashed on a daily basis.
5/13/2009 02:39:00 PM
Dugan has lost his freaking mind. Hey Dan, some of us have lives outside this job.
"WHAT WOULD AUNT BEAS GRADE BE SHE DOESNT HAVE ANY DUTIES ANYMORE!"
Yeah, how does a condominium full of bulk narcotics and illegal firearms affect Assistant Superintendent Beatrice Cuello's "rating?"
I remember when FOP told us that 80% pension was just around the corner! All we had to do was get Blago and Madigan's daughter elected and they would both sign off on it the next day! 2009 and we can't even get a contract! Judases and back stabbers surround us all! Beware of the Trojan Horse and those inside it! (Daley and Donahue)
Old scam they are trying to breathe life back into! Efficiency cards were always fun to read but totalling useless! "Rarely late for work and interacts well with the public. Uniform appearance neat and answers calls promptly." Sound familar? They are getting desperate! Do not weaken! Do not let them see you sweat or blink! Stay together! Fuck these pathetic exempt morons who have no concept of being the police!
Man already, You guys got a beef about every fucking thing this department does.
I think today's supervisors fail sparring your asses only because they feel sorry for you inablity to be the real police.
Also, I say spar & spar the dogs to no end. Then they can cry.
After 29 y.o.j., you guys are worse then an alley cat when it comes to being loyal.
This generation of the new breed of police think it is all about "ME". It makes me want to puke.
Good-NIGHT !!!
j-pud's been rated and look who cares. No body.
This department is a joke.
Ratings / evaluations come from the academic world. Some types of performance can never be evaluated.
Real time, real world, ratings amount to nothing but second guessing and are demoralizing to those men and women who have taken action in good faith.
Without those few action takers we would be a world of sheep.
evaluate this: gfy
Instructions to Management for the Proper utilization of Attitude Assessment Reports:
A: Put on your bifocals(as you
old fucks cant see)
B: neatly unfold said document
C: Read said document
D: Absorb content of said document
E: Place jar of Vaseline on desk
F: Liberally spread vaseline on
said document.
G: Pull your pants down
H: Shove said document in your
fucking ass.
I got your attitude RIGHT HERE
Fuck you Weis
Maybe he "southside cop" should be gigged for fucking up Jody's murder rate.
"5/13/2009 06:32:00 PM"
That was good for a few laughs.
The FOP needs to do some serious work for you people.
Wake up honey....FOP is a code name for butt sucking mayor daley hacks! They wont do a damn thing. I suggest the next time they come to your roll call.....everybody get up and leave!
Anonymous said...
Dugan has lost his freaking mind. Hey Dan, some of us have lives outside this job.
5/13/2009 10:55:00 PM
You got that right. Nothing comes out of that guy's mouth that is not related to the CPD. He is a very boring individual. The Police Department is the ONLY thing in his life. No wife, no girlfriend. Just the "department." Ughhh.
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