Inspectors Don't Get It
And neither does the brass:
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Once again Inspectors chastised sergeants for managing calls for service ( 19-p that BS!)
Apparently OEMC supervisors refuse to manage the calls taken and dispatched to units in the field. This results in a backlog of nonsense calls that are totally anti-productive. When good Sgt’s attempt to do what they are suppose to do; i.e. supervise!; they get threatened by some goof Big Bird inspector for doing their jobs. WTF does an inspector know about what’s going on in a district anyway. So the result is a 8 or 10 hour RAP with calls being dispatched 2 and 3 hours late. Officer arrive to find irate citizens who after waiting 2 hours, have already called IAD and got and got a CR# because they thought they got blown off. NOW, the poor Sgt has to handle a BS cr# because the BS inspector told him he couldn’t clear the board of BS calls !
This is insanity.
Oh yes- and when did you run that mission Sarge???
Can I reassign this CR to the Birdman?
This started when supervisors attempted to do the job that OEC and HQ won't do - prioritize the calls. OEC takes every single call, regardless if it is a police matter or not. Field Sergeants and Lieutenants took the initiative and pushed civil matters, ancient disturbances, dope jobs without descriptions or operable data and got them off the board, thereby reducing backlogs and response times to real emergencies...you remember what those are, right?
But that flew in the face of OW Wilson's philosophy from 50 years ago that every call got a police response. Downtown tried to put a stop to it lest Shortshanks get irritated when the "reverends" bitched. Cuello even put out a directive saying the practice of blanket "19-Pauls" was forbidden. Backlogs soared and it wasn't uncommon for three and four pages of jobs to be handed off to every watch in Area 2 for days on end. Supervisors took the initiative to manage their non-existent manpower and handled what they could the only way possible - prioritizing.
And now, we see once again, what happens when people who have no idea what it's like in Patrol Division actually trying to run the Patrol Division. It's uncannily like Congress trying to run the Vietnam War. No fucking clue.
But that flew in the face of OW Wilson's philosophy from 50 years ago that every call got a police response. Downtown tried to put a stop to it lest Shortshanks get irritated when the "reverends" bitched. Cuello even put out a directive saying the practice of blanket "19-Pauls" was forbidden. Backlogs soared and it wasn't uncommon for three and four pages of jobs to be handed off to every watch in Area 2 for days on end. Supervisors took the initiative to manage their non-existent manpower and handled what they could the only way possible - prioritizing.
And now, we see once again, what happens when people who have no idea what it's like in Patrol Division actually trying to run the Patrol Division. It's uncannily like Congress trying to run the Vietnam War. No fucking clue.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
79 Comments:
I only read half of this thread.... waa waaa waa The Sergeants are getting fucked with... WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!!! I guess too many of you have forgotten what it is like to be a lowly blue shirt! We are not fighting the same fight... sorry... you are supervisors you get paid handsomely and have an eighth the responsibility!!! No one cares to hear your gripes! Here is a thought... if you REALLY want to get our respect, SETTLE YOUR CONTRACT FIRST! Set a precedence for US for a change! You company clowns are too concerned with your me-too clause to actually step up and get the WORKERS a play! It is no secret that the Sergeants have the sweetest gig in this department... it is a shame that WE (the workers) never get tossed a bone by YOUR union! We settle up for scraps, you get everything we get and then some! Double availability, double uniform checks, sell back 200 hours, about 90K before your 45 minutes a day for nothing! ect ect ect FUCK YOU! This is OUR blog! You want to whine piss and moan?? Go to secondcitysarge.com NO ONE FEELS BAD FOR YOU HERE!!! Now go "take care of that number" only to have it resurface 3 months later with IPRA you hacks... now leave us workers alone!!!
I guess it's better to have backlogs. Police work cannot be completed without Police officers. Since they refuse to provide them, this is the result, like it or not!
F^ck you very much, Richard M. Daley, CEO, Daley Crime Family.
whatever happened to the old "no cars available" expose on CBS, back in the day....when the citizens called 911, and there were no cars to handle the calls...just like now (they call it a RAP (radio assignments pending), with field units receiving 4-6 assignments at a time, then maybe being pulled off of numbers 3-4, to handle another "hotter", or more important, assignment...OEMC says, hey, we're dispatching the calls....but the field units just CANNOT handle all of the calls for service, particularly in Areas One, Two, and Four...so the citizens who need and ask for service do not receive it...welcome to the world of imcompetent law enforcement..
I think these performance evaluations that ARE NOW IN EFFECT are something much bigger we need to be concerned with.
Where is the FOP?
Anyone. Anyone.
Two dudes, on cell phones, Dude deflating Birdmans tires, the other making sure Birdman doesn't discover Dude.
not shocking. first off i dont work in 020 but i was passing through and had zone 11 on and heard a backlog in 020 on days about a week or two ago, there was no shootings or homicides going on but wow i always heard that was a slow place but to have a backlog unbelievable
If this is the case, wait until New Year's Eve...we'll have to respond to every single shots fired call on top of all the other bullshit.
FUCK YOU BIG BIRD! P*SSY!
Regular Joe here. In our neighborhood, we call everything in that we can because a) we have been told to at CAPS and b) we are frankly sick of the fact that the gangbangers are constantly shooting at each other but seldom KILL anyone so that what is actually happening on our streets shows up in the statistics. (We are not making this stuff up, officers do find casings and "property damage" after the fact.)
The district commanders keep repeating that we are "fully staffed" under the new criteria for all districts and that crime is low. (Tell that to my neighbor the Iraq vet who says he hears more gunfire at home than he ever did over there!) None of us are interested in clogging up the 911 system but we are getting such inconsistent information. What else can we do/should we do to make it so this crap gets documented in the system? With few arrests, the statistics make it look like nothing ever happens and we are living in Mayberry. We're certainly not the worst in Chicago but very far from being ok. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
There will be plenty of 19ps on
th 4th of July!
It is obvious the daley (we are worth 6% each year and you arent worth shit) administration hates us. There is absolutely no reason an expired contract should not be in the hands of an arbitrator after the first 6 months. I am not a big proponent of a blue flu but at this point and going on TWO YEARS with this asshole daley, it is probably necessary.
911 operator: "Chicago emergency how may I help you?"
Caller: "umm yes, I live west of Midway airport and at 3 AM a jet took off and woke me up"
911 operator:"sir we will dispatch a car right away"
Caller:"ok please hurry"
I just finished handling a stack of jobs 8 hours old. It was great! Nobody was there or the pissed off citizens said they didn't want a report now. No contract, no manpower, just a lot of bullshit from the retarded leadership. One job at a time. I'm taking lunch and going home!!!!!!!!
Hopefully the Sgt's in 011 are listening to this. This is a trick they use all day long so to keep the boss happy and have a limited backlog. Screw them, they want to dispatch these jobs with limited PO's on the street than let the city slowly die while were in a backlog.
Calls are taken and prioritized (classified) by call takers at 911. These are civilian employees that have not only ever worked for the police department; they are the bottom rung of the ladder at 911.
Supervisors at 911 will not or cannot screen these calls and demand by policy that they be given out within minutes. So basically the men and women of the police department (including Sgt’s, Lt’s and W/C’s) are shackled and controlled by a civilian call taker that’s lucky if she call spell UPS.
Add to that the stupidity of Inspectors hounding cops and street supervisors for how they handle jobs- incredible….does anyone else from outside patrol want to jump in and tell the District guy how to do his job!
The brass and the inspectors are basically clueless what goes on during an 8 hour day in a busy district. The calls of "my ten year old won't go to school" "my babby daddy will not give me back my keys" are childish nonsense and do not require the police. Caps has gone way out of control because it makes people too comfortable to call the police. It basically tells the residents that the police will handle everything in your life from raising your kids when they will not go to school. Old 1130 midinights sgt m had the right idea. 19d everything.God i miss an old school sgt like that
Our "bosses", and shortshanks do not need brains & common sense to "act out" their job title. They only need the ability to constantly make everyone aware that " I'm Da Boss" !!!!!
Stupid is as Stupid does !
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.....
Cuckoo, Cuckoo, Cuckoo.....
too many calls are non emergency. but joe public demands to see a police officer.tenant/landlord disputes over rent and failed money scams are a few.alot of stuff that walks into the station isnt police related.1 problem is there isnt any social services. the aldermans office will tell you to call the district caps office. that is, when he s not calling all day asking for shit.
If just half of the stories are true about this "Big Bird", I hereby pronounce him a monumental jagoff.
My counseling fee is $85 per hour.
I can't vouch for the effectiveness of purging the district of shoofly inspectors as we did in Fillmo' many years ago.
You be the judge.
During the riots and at relief, these assholes would want to search the trunks of both squad cars and personal vehicles for "loot". They always struck out.
When they appeared in the district, we'd get out of their view and pop off a few rounds. They'd immediately hightail it Code 3 northbound to stay out of harm's way.
With non-stop 10-1's everywhere, we'd code out burglaries(looting) in progress as 19-Paul.
In retrospect, as long as you and your brothers got out of it unscathed, riots were actually a lot of fun.
It's not the Inspectors that don't get it, it's all upper-command staff. As a Sgt, I use to code jobs (19P, A etc..), now I let them build and tell those on my log, do what they can as safe as they can - F@#k the backlog. I refuse to code out jobs now without going to them. As far as the CR's due to delay in service, I can justify that by pulling the call sheets off the pcad. As the Russians said about the U.S. in the early sixties "We do not have to destroy them (Mayor, Super, etc..) They will destroy themselves from within"
Any Supervisor who codes Jobs in the era is screwing all the work the officers are doing in trying to make a POINT by only doing their JOB. Let the backlogs eventually force Mayor Delay into hiring more officers.
Anonymous said...
OF TOPIC: FOR THE OFFICERS, FIREMAN AND RESIDENTS OF MOUNTGREENWOOD BE ON NOTICE THAT SHITHEADS ARE RENTING TWO HOUSES AT 10819 AND 10822 S. WHIPPLE. THEY CAME FROM ENGELWOOD AND ARE NOW THREATENING RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA, SO MUCH THAT THERE WERE ARRESTS ON BOTH TUE AND WED INVOLVING THESE SCUM BAGS. I DON'T NOW WHO RENTS OUT THESE HOUSES BUT RUMER HAS IT IT'S A FIREMAN(HOPE NOT)
It's CFD from SJF who owns the houses...4 Arrests made probably within 12 hours...Real Dogs...Pull up their sheets....Threatning to take over the block, and light the block up in retallition...Fought w/the Police
Thanks 022 for grabbing them....Off Duty PO's PLEASE Be Careful....By All Means Protect your Family.....I too live nearby, and will "Stand Watch"
This Fireman needs a "Talkin' To"
5/21/2009 11:39:00 PM
SCC - I put this here because I know people will see it.
What is the CFD name? Please post it, I will go talk to him. Fuck him for doing what he did, if you know him, or his fire house, please post it.
They get what they asked for. Go to every job you are given in the order your given it. In the end let the GOLD star answer WHY? Or the OEMC director answer WHY? Its time to pass the buck up the chain this time!
The problem is not us in patrol its the book worms that fun this place.
(What to do what to do hmmmmm the text book said blah) What a joke!
let it back up.sorry mr good citizen. Hows that 6% pay raise alderscum?
2 simple words to address the situation. I'M SICK JULY 2,3, AND
4th.
5/21/2009 07:48:00 PM
I guess this is what it is going to take to show this asshole daley we are tired of him dicking us around every four years at contract time. The a-hole wont ever play fair and decided we aren't worth shit while giving himself a raise, so i think it's time to return the favor. The march was cute and all but it changed nothing. See you at the medical section on the 5th.
The backlogs never stop and never will until there are major changes in the taking and prioritizing of jobs AND putting more PO's in patrol and not in specialized units.
I will ride past the 3 hour disturbance and gladly give a code. ALL of the disturbances with anonymous callers get codes from me. You cannot breach my peace so I don't care if you don't like the mariachi band playing in the yard next door. Doesn't bother me any! If you're not signing a complaint, then too bad for you. Parking complaints... yea right; don't feel like giving the city any $.
If an in progress call comes out I go there first. It's gonna take another call (domestic/voop) sitting in backlog that's gonna get someone killed before the department knee-jerks and does something. Of course it will be a short term fix because they have no clue how to make this department work.
I ride 8 hours and could care less about a backlog that I know will never go away. I stopped stressing out about this stuff a long time ago. Anonymous callers are on the bottom of my priority list.
CAPS WORKS!
Did anyone get that figure of how many sworn officers there actually are from the Pension Board?
We should conduct a pool.
Sell tickets at $10 each, and in 100 man increments, people would randomly draw numbers (in case they had someone in Human Resources or the Pension Board to look it up in advance), in 100 man increments from 8,500 to 13,500.
over. If all tickets were sold the winner would get $400.00
Stay safe, my guess is that there is about 11,700.
10 hour days have eliminated the need to hire more officers thus, putting more jobs on fewer officers! The city and FOP sleep together so two watches equal more work for less money!! Genius! There are no more fresh horses or water coming soon! We got played!
This is the nature of large organizations: push authority upwards to people with no information about what they're doing.
The corallary of all this is, of course, that the people with the information must be ignored.
And this usually happens in reponse to one or two isolated incidents which generate an outcry and a demand from the top of the organization (say, Shortshanks) that "something be done about this". And so an inane rule gets enforced, and everything spirals downhill from there.
Anonymous said...
I just finished handling a stack of jobs 8 hours old. It was great! Nobody was there or the pissed off citizens said they didn't want a report now. No contract, no manpower, just a lot of bullshit from the retarded leadership. One job at a time. I'm taking lunch and going home!!!!!!!!
5/22/2009 05:47:00 AM
Finally, a positive response to RAP. One job at a time. I learned that tactic back in the 1980's. That is the one answer to avoid CR's and inspector harassment. One job at a time and keep your ears open for assist calls. Of course, responding to assist calls means morale is high.
Anonymous said...
whatever happened to the old "no cars available" expose on CBS, back in the day....when the citizens called 911, and there were no cars to handle the calls...just like now (they call it a RAP (radio assignments pending), with field units receiving 4-6 assignments at a time, then maybe being pulled off of numbers 3-4, to handle another "hotter", or more important, assignment...OEMC says, hey, we're dispatching the calls....but the field units just CANNOT handle all of the calls for service, particularly in Areas One, Two, and Four...so the citizens who need and ask for service do not receive it...welcome to the world of imcompetent law enforcement..
5/22/2009 12:33:00 AM
they are all scared of the daley crime family to do anything that would keep daleys 185K girl jackie heard from "leaking" info about the 50 aldermen
Anonymous said...
10 hour days have eliminated the need to hire more officers thus, putting more jobs on fewer officers! The city and FOP sleep together so two watches equal more work for less money!! Genius! There are no more fresh horses or water coming soon! We got played!
5/22/2009 09:20:00 AM
The 10 hour days would be great everywhere less days to go on the shit hole patrol!
Anonymous said...
2 simple words to address the situation. I'M SICK JULY 2,3, AND
4th.
5/21/2009 07:48:00 PM
I guess this is what it is going to take to show this asshole daley we are tired of him dicking us around every four years at contract time. The a-hole wont ever play fair and decided we aren't worth shit while giving himself a raise, so i think it's time to return the favor. The march was cute and all but it changed nothing. See you at the medical section on the 5th.
5/22/2009 08:49:00 AM
I agree now will we all/at least most of us do it?
Anonymous said...
911 operator: "Chicago emergency how may I help you?"
Caller: "umm yes, I live west of Midway airport and at 3 AM a jet took off and woke me up"
911 operator:"sir we will dispatch a car right away"
Caller:"ok please hurry"
5/22/2009 05:27:00 AM
And that is the way we want to keep it asshole!
Anonymous said...
not shocking. first off i dont work in 020 but i was passing through and had zone 11 on and heard a backlog in 020 on days about a week or two ago, there was no shootings or homicides going on but wow i always heard that was a slow place but to have a backlog unbelievable
5/22/2009 01:19:00 AM
It's the 10 hour shift. Screwed everything up. Mis-alocation of resources.
just do exactly as the brass tells you.
DO NOT try to fix their idiotic policy in the field.
allow the bosses to fail.
Does being "chastized" amount to being in trouble in today's police department?
God forbid anyone gets "chasitized."
When you know you are in the right at least have the balls to dare this department to stop you.
#2. All civilian employees of the department are to be fired unless they accept 15 days off without pay. Their unions asked whether or not this would ensure job security, and the city said we don't know. They are now negotiating over it, but the federally required 30 day notices of layoffs are scheduled to be mailed out to all such employees at the end of the month.
And H.K unit # 177 has been pulling down about 100 hours o.t. while civilians will start losing their jobs. even after going to northwestern univ. while driving a unmarked car from the unit. so what does the comm. do he decided he will give him the vehicle full time. that what happens when the comm. can't do anything and has h.k come and help him making over time. if any boss feels like looking into this before something goes public here is the plate #M121573. is it really proper. He is out of control and he said no one can touch him he has daleys #.
2 simple words to address the situation. I'M SICK JULY 2,3, AND
4th.
won't happen. too many two year wonders willing to do the job including 5-10 year wonder company men. never ever happen. one could only dream...........
I'm a dispatcher at OEMC. We follow rules set out in our SOPs (standard operating procedure) which are based on CPD's general orders. The system of how events are prioritized was made by the police department, not us civilians.
People go to their CAPS meetings, and are told by the police to call whenever they need something. I can't tell you how many times I've taken calls and got them on the zone for bs. "My 11 yo is in his room and won't come out to do his homework..." As much as we want to say be a parent, the police are going to arrest little johhnie because you can't step up, we can't. That wonderful man of a mayor daley has told the public time and time again that the police are here for your every little need.
As far as my career goes, there's only been a few times when I've received calls regarding strictly civil matters where I know I'm in the right and I tell the citizen they're not getting the police. About half the time on those calls they want to talk to my supervisor because they think I don't know my job.
When the crap starts to roll down hill, OEMC is at the bottom. We are powerless to make any change that could help police in the field. So before you start bashing calltakers and dispatchers, you need to remember that we're just trying to get by as well, in a department where we don't have a contract either, where "implied" rudeness will get you a CI (like your CR), and where we have to look at all the jobs on the board, and if they're not given out in a "timely manner" we take the blame for it.
I have no problems when asked, "Squad, can you do a callback?" yeah... that job has a lot of time on it, if they're not flagging you down I'll take a code.
Stay safe boys and girls.
O.T. Someone needs to out the owner of the properties on whipple.Any ass that rents to section 8 in our neighborhood needs to be "talked to".
"Stay safe, my guess is that there is about 11,700.
5/22/2009 09:12:00 AM"
I get the concept, the details could be better, say, a buck a ticket, one per office, that would give around 10 large as the prize.
And that single winner prize of 10 large would generate more participants.
It's CFD from SJF who owns the houses...4 Arrests made probably within 12 hours...Real Dogs...Pull up their sheets....Threatning to take over the block, and light the block up in retallition...Fought w/the Police
Thanks 022 for grabbing them....Off Duty PO's PLEASE Be Careful....By All Means Protect your Family.....I too live nearby, and will "Stand Watch"
This Fireman needs a "Talkin' To"
5/21/2009 11:39:00 PM
I bet both houses burn to the ground from the lightning that hits them during the next thunder storm.
If I see criminal activity I call 911 but request to remain anonymous because I don't want my personal information broadcast over the radio. If the criminal activity warrants my presence or signature for complaint I will be there waiting for the police. I understand that certain calls take priority over other calls. I would never make nonsense calls (i.e. my kid won't go to school, etc.etc.). However, I do want to document the criminal activity in my neighborhood. It is one of the few ways we have to document what is really happening on our streets and in our neighborhoods. It is a means by which we can hold city officials accountable and responsible for their mismanagement.
I know our police officers do their best to get to a call as soon as it is dispatched to them.
The issue is not with the officers on the beat but with the powers responsible for equipping and staffing the beats(Weiss & Daley to name a few). We don't appreciate their dishonesty about statistics and staffing... "Statistics show crime is down and we are adequately staffed". Blah, Blah, Blah. Anyone with a brain, eyes and ears know we don't have enough officers on the street to handle the increase in criminal activity in this city. Also, if you really pay attention to all the statistics thrown around in the media you can see how the data has been manipulated to present the scenario they want you to believe instead of the truth.
None of us are interested in clogging up the 911 system but we are getting such inconsistent information. What else can we do/should we do to make it so this crap gets documented in the system? With few arrests, the statistics make it look like nothing ever happens and we are living in Mayberry. We're certainly not the worst in Chicago but very far from being ok. Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
5/22/2009 01:29:00 AM
You are suffering from a political problem. It all stems from City Hall. A man in charge of cpd has never been the police. State's attorneys deny a pluthera of charges. Good victims don't want the hassle of court. Policemen are being sued to the point that they are no longer pro-active. We are so short that even if we wanted to be pro-active, we couldn't because we ride around alone all night- we know that if we call for help its not coming for a couple minutes, which is an eternity when shit hits the fan. In short, the police department is a city department. The city has been mismanaged into the ground, so the dept is symptomatic of the bigger problem. I'd simply move, but I can't, we have residency. You? I'd have been gone a long time ago. Try LaGrange. Its really nice, right off I55, and you can be at the lake in under 1/2 hour. Shitcago isn't going to get better any time soon.... I see us as South Detroit...
tired of white shirts said...
I only read half of this thread.... waa waaa waa The Sergeants are getting fucked with... WELCOME TO OUR WORLD!!! I guess too many of you have forgotten what it is like to be a lowly blue shirt! We are not fighting the same fight... sorry... you are supervisors you get paid handsomely and have an eighth the responsibility!!! No one cares to hear your gripes! Here is a thought... if you REALLY want to get our respect, SETTLE YOUR CONTRACT FIRST! Set a precedence for US for a change! You company clowns are too concerned with your me-too clause to actually step up and get the WORKERS a play! It is no secret that the Sergeants have the sweetest gig in this department... it is a shame that WE (the workers) never get tossed a bone by YOUR union! We settle up for scraps, you get everything we get and then some! Double availability, double uniform checks, sell back 200 hours, about 90K before your 45 minutes a day for nothing! ect ect ect FUCK YOU! This is OUR blog! You want to whine piss and moan?? Go to secondcitysarge.com NO ONE FEELS BAD FOR YOU HERE!!! Now go "take care of that number" only to have it resurface 3 months later with IPRA you hacks... now leave us workers alone!!!
5/22/2009 12:17:00 AM
Well I guess you are a douche bag and enjoy being in a back log constantly getting hammered with jobs(unless you are in one of those useless spots that dont handle jobs). I personally would like to thank sgts for coding nonsense jobs for us.(Especially a certain 2nd watch sgt in 008) and NO I do not work in 008 nor am I a sgt. Im just a lowly p.o. going job to job on nonsense calls all day long. So thank you sgts with balls. wish more sgts had balls to code these stupid non police jobs out.
"Regular Joe here. In our neighborhood, we call everything in that we can because a) we have been told to at CAPS and b) we are frankly sick of the fact that the gangbangers are constantly shooting at each other but seldom KILL anyone so that what is actually happening on our streets shows up in the statistics. (We are not making this stuff up, officers do find casings and "property damage" after the fact.)"
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Let me guess. Rogers Park or Uptown. Move to a better neighborhood... that's what I did.
"It is no secret that the Sergeants have the sweetest gig in this department"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That's true.
The lieutenant's job used to be the best however you are almost always the watch commander and constantly being sent out of the district.
2 simple words to address the situation. I'M SICK JULY 2,3, AND
4th.
I'm in!
OT:
This shit is true about 108th & Whipple these dogs threatened to kill coppers wife, shoot up the whole block, they said that there from 73 & May and they are gonna close the block down!! Threatened off-duty coppers and fought with the police when they got there....watch yourselves and call 911 everytime they start shit!!! Trying to win the ghetto lottery!!!
You are suffering from a political problem. It all stems from City Hall....
5/22/2009 12:18:00 PM
THANK YOU for laying it all out and being honest. (I agree) Not quite how the district commanders and the CAPS representatives tell it though! I'm ready to leave but with this housing market and some personal reasons to stay in Chicago it is not going to happen very soon. Eventually it will, though. Damn shame too. Its bad for everyone (including Daley's tax base) when decent law-abiding people feel that there is no way to fight it all anymore and they are better off trying to make it someplace else.
A pleasant Memorial Day goes out to anyone who has served or lost someone in the armed forces.
coding out shit is bullshit!
DOPE JOBS ARE CODED OUT?
HOW ABOUT THIS, SEND THOSE JOBS TO THE GANG TEAMS!
THEY ARE LOGGED ON AND THEY DO HAVE GPS.
TOOOO COMPLICATED... TO MANY SGT WITH ASSOC DEGREES FROM HAROLD WASHINGTON.
THEY ALL WANT TO BE LT'S BUT COULDNT LEAD A HARD ON INTO A MEAT SLEEVE.
JUST LOG UR GUYS AND WAVE DONT GET ON THE RADIO. SGTS ARE A USELESS THEY CANT EVEN KILL CR'S ANYMORE OR TAKE SLIPS. THEY BARELY CAN APPROVE OT.
"It is no secret that the Sergeants have the sweetest gig in this department"
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That's true.
The lieutenant's job used to be the best however you are almost always the watch commander and constantly being sent out of the district.
5/22/2009 01:13:00 PM
A Sgt.s job is the absolute WORST job on this department. When a Lt. gets sent out of the district to be a watch commander, he gets more pay. They don't mind it at all. A Lt. is the best job on this department.
Inspectors don't know what it's really like to be the Police!
Just like J-Fed never made a physical pinch of a loud mouthed piss bums on the streets!
When I was a WC in the "old room" AKA COS, the real police and the police department's dispatcher aides screened each call. They made sure that the BS calls were not dispatched.
Now comes the OEC then the OEMC and all the political bullshit associated with it and the powers- to-be says dispatch all calls. They do this to avoid making the clouted 911 hacks look bad and shift the responsibility on the police.
Now, brave and dedicated sergents and lieutenants step up and clean the shit only to be fed a load of crap for trying to help.
Please; stop helping. It is not appreciated and a real solution will not come from it.
Face it! we are unstaffed and overworked.
Hey SCC, got a news flash for you. OEMC does not determine the priority of calls neither does OEMC determine dispatch procedures. This is all done by the CPD. If you are going to make accusations at least know what you are talking about.
Leave Inspector McMann alone. He has worked in patrol. In fact; he was a member of the venerable and unappreciated Rangers of the 7th district.
Anonymous said...
911 operator: "Chicago emergency how may I help you?"
Caller: "umm yes, this is Doneske.I live west of Midway airport and at 3 AM a jet took off and woke me up" I spilled beer on my deck and fell into the pool.
911 operator: do you need an ambulance?
Caller: yeah. tell them to pick up a case of miller lites.
911 operator:"sir, we will dispatch an ambulance right away"
Caller: and tell Ellyn to stop those early morning flights, dammit!
911 operator: I will call her immediately, sir.
Caller:"ok please hurry. I'm thirsty"
5/22/2009 05:27:00 AM
Any Supervisor who codes Jobs in the era is screwing all the work the officers are doing in trying to make a POINT by only doing their JOB. Let the backlogs eventually force Mayor Delay into hiring more officers.
5/22/2009 08:37:00 AM
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820 - 2nd watch.
So thank you sgts with balls. wish more sgts had balls to code these stupid non police jobs out.
5/22/2009 12:34:00 PM
Balls will never be a substitute for brains. Work smarter; not harder.
/22/2009 12:49:00 PM
Anonymous said...
"It is no secret that the Sergeants have the sweetest gig in this department"
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That's true.
The lieutenant's job used to be the best however you are almost always the watch commander and constantly being sent out of the district.
5/22/2009 01:13:00 PM
Do not believe this BS.
The Sgt has it bad. He has to put up with whiney LTs and clouted Capts and also wipe the asses of cry baby gel heads or POs that can't handle their domestic affairs. Come on. Tell it like it is.
"I bet both houses burn to the ground from the lightning that hits them during the next thunder storm.
5/22/2009 12:03:00 PM"
That might solve both problems, even though the owner will have some 'slpainin' to do.
The lieutenant's job used to be the best however you are almost always the watch commander and constantly being sent out of the district.
5/22/2009 01:13:00 PM
It still is. But the LTs won't admit it.
They work a 6 hour day.
Get out of grade when they are WC.
Get 1 1/2 when assign out of the area.
Make 11K a year more than a Sgt.
Seldom investgate a CR.
"Stay safe boys and girls.
5/22/2009 11:13:00 AM"
Thanks.
We're all being fucked by the same midget penis.
Too bad the apparent majority of voters seem to enjoy it.
5/22/2009 05:33:00 PM
THEY are not allowed to APPROVE OT.
911 operator: "Chicago emergency how may I help you?"
Caller: "umm yes, I live west of Midway airport and at 3 AM a jet took off and woke me up"
911 operator:"sir we will dispatch a car right away"
Caller:"ok please hurry"
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You forgot to mention that this call was tranferred from Call Back.
too many calls are non emergency.
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That's why they came up with the Non-Criminal Case Reports so EVERYBODY can get a report from that "Domestic" call that turns out to be some one's 8 yr old kid who won't go to school to the baby daddy won't give me the keys back calls.
I 19d a lot of shit. I ride a beat car. I don't speak "dog" for dog barking calls. When the chile be disrespeckful, 19d. I doan play boogeyman or daddie, either, trick baby need a daddie down de line. Same go for walkin down da allley bein black. 19d
Hey SCC, got a news flash for you. OEMC does not determine the priority of calls neither does OEMC determine dispatch procedures. This is all done by the CPD. If you are going to make accusations at least know what you are talking about..
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Yeah, OEC is completely blameless and has no input into the process. What are you smoking?
And we put the blame for this exactly where it belongs - OEC and HQ and we even named names downtown that are screwing it up. Go read what we wrote.
In our neighborhood, we call everything in that we can because we have been told to at CAPS
--this is true. I have been at beat meetings where they are told to call re: cars speeding down the street even though the car will be gone by the time the police get there. They were told to do this for "documentation" purposes. If it's not documented, it's not a problem. This is what they are told to do by the CAPS facilitators.
Yeah, OEC is completely blameless and has no input into the process. What are you smoking.
5/22/2009 10:10:00 PM
Yeah, and I got news for you. Dispatch priorities and procedures are authored and owned by a sole proprietor, and that is the CPD.
Whatever you were told or wrote to the contrary is false. OEMC has NO input. None.
Ben Bothplaces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yFUtJhUb7Q
Anonymous said...
It's CFD from SJF who owns the houses...4 Arrests made probably within 12 hours...Real Dogs...Pull up their sheets....Threatning to take over the block, and light the block up in retallition...Fought w/the Police
Thanks 022 for grabbing them....Off Duty PO's PLEASE Be Careful....By All Means Protect your Family.....I too live nearby, and will "Stand Watch"
This Fireman needs a "Talkin' To"
5/21/2009 11:39:00 PM
I bet both houses burn to the ground from the lightning that hits them during the next thunder storm.
5/22/2009 12:03:00 PM
In retrospect, as long as you and your brothers got out of it unscathed, riots were actually a lot of fun.
5/22/2009 08:37:00 AM
NORTHERN: My God, I wish the Bulls could put together another stellar team! I know the Hawks are kicking ass, but do you think anyone will riot after they win?
WHo cares??? Not this guy!!! Nor the guys that ran the city and department into the ground... Funny shit though.
I don't know why some of you guys think I have the worst job on the Department. I don't. You do. I have one of the best. Remember, ANYTIME you get out of the blue and into the white, you are way ahead of the game.
The key here once again is that they have a bunch of people running patrol who have no idea what it is like to be in patrol (commander 004).
108/Whipple....needs to be taken care of old school!
Very un-clever PO's living back in Mt.Greasewood these days. Back in the day there were hundreds of bad hillbilly houses. We came up with a myriad of fun, witty, terrifying yet legal ways to encourage the owners/tenants that a swift move to the suburbs (or parts unknown) would be a pleasant and healthy choice for them to embark upon.
If I lived on 108th and Whipple, I'd find out who was running shit over on 71st and May and explain that if those punk bitches didn't move off my block, it was going to be very difficult for dope to sold on May, (his dope!) when CPD cars keep blocking off the intersections and shagging all the hypes.
It is no secret that the Sergeants have the sweetest gig in this department...
What police department do you work for???? Even the most hardened, miserable, cantankerous police officers dont really believe that the Sgt's position is the best in the dept. Maybe you should study harder and make Sgt and then you can begin the revolution of change.
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