Arbitration Arrives
Mayor Daley said Wednesday he’ll roll the dice and ask an independent arbitrator to dictate new contracts with police officers and firefighters who must do their part to help solve the city’s financial crisis.
During his annual State of the City address, Daley noted that public safety employees who account for 70 percent of city spending were excused from a cost-cutting plan that required other city unions to choose between layoffs and furlough days and other givebacks.
“They’re not in the boat. We’re in the boat. ... They have to come back to the boat. ... We’re asking them to get back in the boat. Talk to your taxpayers. Talk to your neighbor. They have to be part of the solution and not part of the problem,” he said.
Fraternal Order of Police President Mark Donahue reacted angrily to Daley’s decision to pull the trigger on arbitration, a potentially risky move for both sides.
“It sounds to me like the mayor hit his head on the boat when he was getting in. We’re still in negotiations with the city. We negotiate in good faith. It’s up to the city to show us that as well,” he said.
Daley is in a bad spot and arbitration is a risky move for all parties. The issues that are the subjects of "letters of agreement" could be in jeopardy and who knows if any of these will stand without a vote from the members?
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
219 Comments:
What a tool. "Get back in the boat". Asshole. Our boat is the only one that gets shot at, while his other boats paddle around in little circles. F*ck him and his boats. I hope you boat sinks, douchebag.
we need to plan another march! hey FOP where are the billboards? just talk! hey FOP where is the informational picketing? just more talk! hey FOP..... Forget Our Police!
Lets wait till 02 oct. folks!!!
K-9 Bear is still missing, the dept has no one looking for hin,he was last seen 94th Harding, had had reports of a loose shephard around 87th Cicero, please help find Bear, a reward is offered
Thank You
LETS HOPE THAT 6% RAISE THE COWARDS GAVE THEMSELVES COMES BACK TO HUNT THEM,ROLL THE DICE.HEY DALEY HOPE YOU CHOKE ON DAT DERE SANDWICH,OVER BY DERE!
Well, at least we'll finally get a contract. Shortshanks is the biggest piece of shit in this city.
OK, 70% of the city spending ---and, how much revenue does the CPD generate? There once was a time when CPD revenue was far greater than its spending. They had their own budget and "leftover" money went into the general fund. It became too tempting for City Hall and they included CPD in the city budget and didn't have to wait until the end of the fiscal year to get their hands on the extra funds. But those days are over and City Hall has seen to changing our mission. Rather than do traffic enforcement (including parking), the backlog for service calls requires more time thereby shrinking the window of opportunity to write the revenue generating tickets. City Hall created this problem and they want us to fix it.....
He and his boyfriends steal the money and he wants the coppers and fireman to pay up.
Hey Mr Mayor, I will give you all of the money that your son, Patrick, Algea Davis and your nephew Vaneko will lend me.
68 Million in stolen loot should help a little.
If we get nothing than I guess it's four more years of an empty ink pen so I am unable to write those money producing tickets. Thanks king Daley
WHY NOT JUST REFUSE TO GO TO ARBITRATION... I SAY DRAG IT OUT 2 MORE YEARS. THE ECONOMY IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER BY THEN!!! JUST THINK OF IT AS A SAVINGS ACCOUNT. JFED WILL BE GONE ALL THE PROMOTION TEST WILL BE ANCIENT.
HE IS IN A RUSH FOR THE OLYMPICS
FUCK HIM! HAVE MEETING EVERY FEW MONTHS JUST TOO SAY WE R TRYING.
THROW IN RESIDENCY TELL HIM WE WONT NEED A RAISE IF WE CAN LIVE WHERE WE WANT. TELL THE ARBITRATOR WE ARE TRYING!
ASK HIM 4 A BUY OUT IF HE WANTS TOO LAY PEOPLE OFF!!!
TELL HIM HE CAN TEST US FOR ALL THE DRUGS AND LIQOUR HE WANTS AND THAT CR NUMBER CAN BE FOREVER.
JUST LIKE A HOMICIDE.
TELL HIM TO GIVE US 12 MEDICAL DAYS THAT WE CAN USE WHEN WE R TIRED ON MONDAYS.
IF WE GET HURT WE WILL JUST RECIEVE WORKMANS COMP!
TELL HIM OBAMAS GONNA PAY MY INSURANCE AT 55 SO SCREW UR DEAL!
I HOPE DONAHUE ENJOYED HIS LITTLE TRIP WITH THE FOP ELITE. AND I HOPE SOME OF THEM TOOK SOME CLASSES. THE IM A UNION GUY TALK GETS OLD IF ALL THEY DO IS WAIT FOR DALEY CRUMBS.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE ALL THE FOP BOARD VOTED OUT LIKE IN PASTS ELECTION FOR THEIR LACK OF ENTHUSIASM.
i hope the city is forced to open da books!
Mayor Daley said Wednesday he’ll roll the dice and ask an independent arbitrator to dictate new contracts with police officers and firefighters
BOY! This cannot be good....
I'd imagine he finally found an "arbitartor" that will ok ZERO retro....
Time to march?
Well, the good thing will be that the city has to open the books and account for the money from the sale of our city assets. The same money that is being squirreled away for the olympics. The city has more than enough to pay for police and fire raises, just like they had for the aldermen. So go ahead...let the dice roll!
the olny thing worse....is seeing these sellouts writing tons of tickets.
Please wait to march til I get to town. I made resv's tonight. I'll be in on Sunday. A retiree. PS Reinforcements are on the way!
The fix is in.
"They have to be part of the solution and not part of the problem,” he said.
Hey, Dickhead, we are part of the “solution”. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! How much did the “Hired Truck Scandal” cost us, the taxpayer? Whose responsibility was that one, numb nuts? How much did “Grant /Millennium Park” go over budget at taxpayer’s expense? The mismanagement of OUR pension funds? Who profited from the sales of the homes/condos along Roosevelt? And then you have the gall to tell the media “Well the City probably won’t re-coup the expense”. Did your kid pay back all of that cash from his sewer inspection while he was in the Army? Who is profiting from the obvious manpower shortage on Police and fire? I’ll give you the answer, you sawed off little fucking runt: IT AINT US! YOUR Police and Fire! YOU AND YOUR PALS ARE THE FUCKING PROBLEM!
But, now its time to “pay the piper” and you want us to do it? You’re strong-arming and calling in every fucking favor you have to get “Da ‘Limpiks” and it seems like we, the taxpayers, as usual are always left holding the bill! We’re screaming that we don’t want “Da ‘Limpiks”, we know the City will be broke afterwards! Just like Salt Lake, Lake Placid, Atlanta, London, even China… They ALL LOST MONEY! But according to you, “Uuuhhh, everyone made money, yea, dats it, everybody made cash!” Are you on crack?
Strike? Blue Flu? Work Stoppage? Fuck that, it’s about time for a fucking REVOLUTION!
Jody, we know that you or your palls read this blog. Someone keeps you informed. What the fuck do you have to loose? Tell everyone what the manpower is and where the money is going! You get fired, you still get how much? You have nothing to loose! Hell, some of the real “heavy” bosses just left, they are gone, didn’t want to get any more taken from them so they put in their papers, what do you guys have to loose? Come up with the facts and release it to the Media!
We already gave up 3000 Police Officers. what more does this asshole want.
When's the next march!??!
you can't cry broke while wasting money for the Olympics.
The little man on the boat says BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! ZZZZZZZZZZZ! ZZZZZZZZ! ZZZZZZZZ!
WAS IT GOOD FOR YOU SHORT SHANKS?
O.T.; Fact, Mike Croin is coming back to as a civilian to work for the mayor. Will be guarding the mayors crib in MI.
Will get paid from Daley slush fund.
Mike go find a woman already !!!
We aren't in the boat!!?? F*ck you daley. We are in the boat and it's sinking. I haven't worked with a partner now for close to a year!!! B/c we are so short. I risk my life and go out there onto the streets by MYSELF everyday for the citizens and you're going to tell me i'm not in the boat. Give everyone on every watch a partner, which means fulling staffing the department to safe levels, and then i'll gladly talk about giving up a furlough day or something.
Oh yeah, saying that kind of stuff in the media really helps our morale.
If only his tiny pea-brain could realize that if he keeps the police dept happy they in turn can generate huge amounts of revenue for the city. You make them unhappy, and.... well as you can see we have a huge deficit.
Wow Fran should win a Pulitzer for that piece of journalism. With that top honor she could be Chief editor at the Onion. The real news unlike the slum times Tripe-une.
Daley noted..."Talk to your taxpayers. Talk to your neighbor. They have to be part of the solution and not part of the problem,” he said."
Well I have talked to my neighbors, and they are as mad as hell at this Evil Little Man and cannot wait to get rid of him. That includes all the non-city workers also.
Stay Safe and get ride of this prick!
Everyone break out the K.Y. Let's hope the F.O.P. will at least pass out condums or give us a reach around after there done.
So since we are in such a budget crisis J-Fed is going to only going to be paid for being Superintendant , right? Remember this Fed goof is getting paid over 300,000 grand for two jobs (one which was immediately given away) Where is the media on this?
Thank God, Now finally something can get done.
Hey FOP!!! So much for the billboard idea, huh? Too little, too late. Contact BGA and submit a FOIA request on the city's "book$".
Daley is a well known LIER to all!!! He always goes back on his word to promote his agenda and claimes to never know anything when it comes to wrong doing and corruption with his friends, family and business partners. He just negotiated in the media AGAIN! LIER!!!
If he has no money then how can he support the olympics? How much money has already been wasted on the olympics? How much is paying his people to get the olympics? If Chicago is hurting so bad then wouldn't it be better to spend the olympic money fixing the city? This guy is a back stabbing, corrrupt dictator! Hopefully the abritrator sees through his lies and calls him out on it. The sad part is the arbitrator may be in Daley's pocket just like the media.
FOP pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee push the residency issue. If we are allowed to live wherever we want like all other big city police are daley would throw the biggest hissy fit ever and we would not need a raise.
FUCK DALEY AND THE BOAT HE CAME IN ON. Bloody savage, Daley should be sailing on boat straight to club Fed, all the money this guy has stolen through out the years, and most recent are pension money. Daley has big cojones to potray the police as greedy, thats coming from a guy who's lined his pockets on the backs of tax payers. PENDEJO!!!
Chalkie stopped by the 014th this afternoon to say hello.
We all knew it would come to this and this is how he will satisfy the Olympic committees rules on contracts being fulfilled. Now, I do believe that the Arbitrator goes by past precedence but the city will still cry poor. What choice do we have. Any talk of loosing the money box for overtime or retro and we should and will march. He says that we all have to feel the pain equally, does he feel it? Do the Alderthieves? Property values have dropped but have any of our property taxes dropped. They vote themselves a raise and tell us to feel the pain equally. Well some animals are more equal than others just like in the book Animal farm I suppose. Do we all play the part of the horse who would work harder and harder for less and less until we collapse and get shipped off to the glue factory? They have done this, not us, through mismanagement of funds, raising taxes when they should be lowering them, lies and deceit. If we loose what we fought for we will never get it back.
Our useless union FOPu has been telling us to wait because we have to understand the hard economic times we are in, but nobody says a word about Shortshank's bid for the Olympics and the billions it's going to cost us. If Chicago gets the Olympics, we are going to be in a hole for the next 20 to 30 years. The media covers Daley's ass and doesn't ask any questions that will get him mad. Nobody gives a fuck about us. If we don't take care of ourselves, nobody else will!
Interesting that "Tricky Dick" Daley uses the "boat" analogy.
It's more like a ship - Titanic. And he's at the helm!
rb
Well, acutally we have given into concessions:
The lack of/or slow hiring in the CPD for the past two/three years is a MAJOR concession.
You figure the numbers out. If we lose 400-600 active members each and every year and last year he only hired 125; this year he only hired 46 @ 43,000.00 each.
Just the salary savings alone (no benefits) is over 27 million dollars!
I'd say that we have given into concessions far more than any other city department.
Please remember what "unions" so quickly and easily agreed to give-backs and concessions: The Outfit controlled SEIU! Thats right, Daleys handpicked greaseball bootlickers! Anyone remember any of the Area Four crew that led the charge to de-certify the FOP in favor of the Teamsters years ago? One was a Joe the Tailor coat holder who is now an "appointed" captain. Keep voting for the Irish and you'll get it stuck in your ass faster than you can say Daley!
This could be just what we need. FOP could spark a federal investigation of shortburger by refuting the citys revenue gathering and dispersals (i.e. tif's and other deep wells of money).
Its time to MARCH !!!!!!
The MAYOR declared WAR on us !!!!!
We better stick together on this one boys and girls or we'll pay for years to come !!!
Come on MARK D. and the crew at FOP call the teamsters for some help and lets shut the fuckin city down let's be a real union for a change !!!!
Get rid of the residency requirement!!! If we end up going to arbitration and get nothing in the form of monetary reimbursement, then we should be able to alleviate ourselves of the residency requirement. Not that I want the former, but I really want the latter.
So why are the aldermen on the same layoff page? With modern times now do we really still need 50? Why is this always kept out of the media?
WE ARE ABOUT TO GET FUCKED THANKS TO OUR BULLSHIT FOP.
IT'S JUST TOO BAD WE AREN'T SMART ENOUGH TO STAND TOGETHER (ALONG W/FIRE) AND FORCE THIS PIECE OF SHIT TO TREAT US RIGHT AND STOP STEALING OUR TAX DOLLARS.
WE NEED NEW REPRESENTATION.
WE ARE WEAK.
Arbitration (Daley uses the economy when its in his favor)
Is this a scare tactic, so that the CFD and the CPD will start to give up furlough days and unpaid holidays (comp time instead)to make us share the "pain" like the rest of the city employeees in exchange for going to arbitration?
The unions on the civilian side should of told Daley to go take a boat ride. If all the unions stuck together, this city would of been screwed!
I feel for the young members on the CFD and the CPD as their whole careers are ahead of them, seeing whats happening out there now. We ALL need to stay strong and let our Union leaders know that we do not want them to buckle under Daleys threats! Lets not surrender to Daley, like the rest of the civilian union leaders did!
Submitted by a 25 Year CFD member.
We are fucked.
I bet he has a plan. Daley is not stupid. Every move he makes is planned and calculated to his benefit. He will go after the retro pay. Look what he did to every other union and the public supports him. This does not look good for CPD.
So when do I gets my money???? This has been the strategy all along by Daley and FOP lets it Happen. Be MAD at FOP for doing SHIT!!!!! ecvery F'in contract same story
Is the Union going to organize another march?
Maybe this time Police, Fire Fighters, family members and our supporters will show.
Spare a few hours of comp time and show up.
This shit is ridiculous.
all the fop has to do is tell everyone exactly how many police officers we are down. clearly if we are down 3,000+ officers, we are doing our part.... the next step would to tell everyone how much these gold stars are making and how useless they are.
Chalkie stopped by the 014th this afternoon to say hello.
7/16/2009 02:52:00 AM
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And liked it so much, he came back again before the sun came up!
Good cop bad mayor routine! "I did all I could guys, but this was the best I could get!" Sound familar? Maybe a Nolan or Dineen routine! Marches are a waste of time! Neither the public nor the news media really care! Hit em where it hurts, THE POCKET!
Get rid of residency!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then I will accept no raise. Otherwise, no raise, mo busting my butt.
Lifting the residency requirement is all fine and dandy, but who the hell is going to buy your house right now so you can move?
Oops, gotta change my depends again.
Lets see:
Couple of federal things coming down the pipe. Gonna be big savings for city
1. Universal public option health care. (Citiies off the hook on health care)
2. Grant for cops on the street, Where the feds pick up the salary for police officers hired for the first four years. After the mass retirements for this contract. City will be hiring cops for the shortage and retirements (alot) all tab picked up by federal money for first year, with percentages for years 2 - 4. (same thing as Clinton). City is continueing to put all these costs in the budget as a negative.
See the city wants to show a huge deficit for the contract negotiations. They need the huge negatives for an arbitrator to rule in their favor. If the Federal grants and health care pass these negatitives are erased or at least minimal. He wants arbitration now so when the federal money comes he's got a bigger windfall at our expense with contracts in place.
Obama's holding the money as long as he can for Daley. But with his approval numbers going in the tank and the economy, he needs to get the money out there to secure 2010 Democrat elections for Congress and Senate.
Keep negotiations up and wait for the Federal money then go to arbitration if he doesn't give a better offer.
now is a good time to ask the mayor y he has so many po's on his detail, ask him why his kids and their family get driven around the city on our dime why do they need protection its uncalled for they are growm adults they can drive and protect themselves, and why does maggie need a driver, remember they all get sergeant pay for doing nothing.
better say thanks to FOP instead of complaining
without FOP we'd be taking a pay cut and unpaid holidays
refuse to work one man cars during the 1st and 3rd watch
This guy really makes you want to go out there and work...lol. We are part of the problem???
He has already laid off police by not hiring enough to replace those that leave to the point that we are dangerously short while the idiots are getting bolder and bolder. No raises and working with an expired contract (the economy was fine when our contract expired). And he has the nerve to act like we are the bad guys while he sits on over a billion dollars and his relatives, overpaid aldercreatures, and friends make and steal millions.
Last night was the big night for city stickers. Easily could have written an entire book for $3000 in city revenue. Instead, you get $0.
....Oh, and someone should remind duh mayor that we are taxpayers. And when I asked myself, myself told me duh mayor is a greedy crooked politician who is using the economy as an excuse to strong arm unions into giving up contractual benefits and to low ball those without contracts. And that is coming straight from a taxpayer.
it's time to request a buy out for officers with 29 years at 80% pension
allow officers with 25 years to buy 4 years of time
FOP should of been in arbitration when raises were pulled last year!
Hit the arbitrator up to drop residency FOP!
Anonymous said...
We aren't in the boat!!?? F*ck you daley. We are in the boat and it's sinking. I haven't worked with a partner now for close to a year!!! B/c we are so short. I risk my life and go out there onto the streets by MYSELF everyday for the citizens and you're going to tell me i'm not in the boat. Give everyone on every watch a partner, which means fully staffing the department to safe levels, and then i'll gladly talk about giving up a furlough day or something.
7/16/2009 01:23:00 AM
Whatever happened to REFUSING to work as a 99 unit???
Aren't YOU endangering yourself by agreeing to work 99???
Aren't YOU and all others who agree to work 99 allowing the Department to justify their short-staffed operational levels???
And if you are agreeing to work 99, aren't YOU part of the problem and not part of the solution???
I'm just sayin' !
Anonymous said...
we need to plan another march! hey FOP where are the billboards? just talk! hey FOP where is the informational picketing? just more talk! hey FOP..... Forget Our Police!
7/16/2009 12:10:00 AM
They are busy spending "our" money in florida on yet another drunken junket! Personally i cannot wait for MIKE SHIELDS to take over! Mike just make sure you replace all 5 with a fresh slate!
K-9 Bear is still missing, the dept has no one looking for hin,he was last seen 94th Harding, had had reports of a loose shephard around 87th Cicero, please help find Bear, a reward is offered
Thank You
Bear would be better served if he was found by a person/family who actually took his needs into account and created a safe living environment where he could live without risk to himself or his neighbors.
I don't know P.O. R.K. but he must be a royal douche bag or more likely a fucking know-it-all after the last incident with his "lifelong buddy."
This guy's a canine handler yet can't grasp the rudimentary aspects of owning a dog.
Fuck him. Send him to a beat car. Let someone in the canine unit that actually gives a shit or knows how to take care of a dog.
Anonymous said...
FOP pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee push the residency issue. If we are allowed to live wherever we want like all other big city police are daley would throw the biggest hissy fit ever and we would not need a raise.
7/16/2009 02:29:00 AM
Fuck you I am at end of my career keep residency and show us the money! Where you gonna move to homer township and pay $10,000+ a year in taxes goof!
The Lieutenants Association had an interesting article on Interest Arbitration written by their attorney in their recent newsletter. (http://www.cpdlts.com/jun09sentinal.pdf) Read it. You might learn a few things.
An example: In the case of Chicago Police
Officers, the arbitration decision is limited
to wages, hours and conditions of
employment and can not include the
following:
(1) residency requirements;
(2) the type of equipment,
other than uniforms, issued or used;
(3) manning
(4) the total number of employees
employed by the department;
(5) mutual aid and assistance
agreements to other units of government;
and
(6) the criterion pursuant to
which force, including deadly
force, can be used; provided,
nothing herein shall preclude
an arbitration decision regarding
equipment or manning
levels if such decision is based
on a finding that the equipment
or manning considerations
in a specific work assignment
involve a serious
risk to the safety of a peace
officer beyond that which is
inherent in the normal performance
of police duties.
http://www.cpdlts.com/jun09sentinal.pdf
Get rid of the residency requirement!!! If we end up going to arbitration and get nothing in the form of monetary reimbursement, then we should be able to alleviate ourselves of the residency requirement. Not that I want the former, but I really want the latter.
People can't sell their houses now, if they lift residency you can forget about trying to move, the home values will plummet as people try to under-cut each oither to get their properties sold in the mad dash for the burbs...
I heard a wise man say, the only difference between the CPD and the Titanic is, the Titanic had a band...
In lieu of a raise I would gladly take more furlough, bfd and p-days, retro must be included though, also, the Aldermen MUST take a 6% pay cut(forgo their nice raise they gave themselves)also, all meritorious must be eliminated from promotions. It's a start.
Daley: Cops, firefighters need to sacrifice, too
July 16, 2009
By Fran Spielman, Sun-Times News Group
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley said Wednesday he will roll the dice and ask an independent arbitrator to dictate new contracts with police officers and firefighters whom he says must do their part to help solve the city's financial crisis.
It's more like a ship - Titanic. And he's at the helm!
rb
7/16/2009 03:40:00 AM
With Daley its more like the Titanic ran by Captain Queeg and his merry band of pirates. Aye!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
K-9 Bear is still missing, the dept has no one looking for hin,he was last seen 94th Harding, had had reports of a loose shephard around 87th Cicero, please help find Bear, a reward is offered
Thank You
7/16/2009 12:20:00 AM
The Dept isn't helping? You would think that, at the very least, his K9 team would be out in full force! I really feel bad for the handler... has a bad dog that left (twice, yes, i know i know), and the media slams him, but not nearly as bad as the folks on this blog. I know guys who have lost stars, shields, sticks, hats, guns (yes. guns) with only some good-natured teasing. But on here, good God, this poor guy is slammed like jfed or daley. NOT fair... defend your brother, no one else will!
The problem with gentlemen agreements, is both parties have to be gentlemen. The stuttering half-wit mayor is no gentlemen. The littleprick made no plans for the future in terms of the economy.
We are in the midst of a typhoon, time to dip into the rainy day fund. He won't do that because he then couldn't give out no - bid contracts to his friends, who in turn kick back to the prick in the form of campaign donations.
And that other union's leader that pointed the finger at police and fire, he was obviously put up to it by shortshanks. If the boss' want activity, start giving it to them on the backs of other unions' members.
No give backs!!!
Daley = Mafia
Like Daley has a rowboat... Im sure with the kickback money he has 'earned' he has a much nicer boat. We need to rock that boat and send him overboard.
I'll tell you right now I personally will vote against any contract that gives anything back to this city that we have earned through blood and sweat. We are the only one in the boat that are going to get fucked twice. Two years without a contract or raise all while cost of living, taxes, fees, and crime keep going up.
No furlough days
No unpaid holidays
No retro
Come on you little prick start laying police and ff's off cause I don't give a fuck any more. So tired of being unappreciated and fucked over by this city and mayor.
A teamster spokesperson quoted int he paper about the union's refusal to go along with the givebacks, "some of our guys could lose $30,000."
$30,000 for sitting on their asses, waiting for it to snow. Hmmm...you know what, all of you go fuck yourselves.
7/16 @ 02:14 Liar is not spelled
L I E R. Get a dictionary would you?
Lets see, the FOP picked up the billboard idea from a retired PO in this web site! Then they delayed, and now its too late.
Seems like this current board can only copy others work and ideas.
If only his tiny pea-brain could realize that if he keeps the police dept happy they in turn can generate huge amounts of revenue for the city.
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Unfortunately his planet size ego has taken over and his brain has gone into sleep mode. Haven't you realized, especially after all this time with Daley as Mayor that he views negotiations as a sign of weakness.
HE needs to be in charge. He needs to show everyone that he is a strong leader. HE needs for everyone to forget that it took him 3 tries to pass the bar exam.
HE needs everyone to forget that while the economy was tanking he, along with his merry band of alderthieves, voted for and passed a 6% raise for themselves. Oh, and let's not forget the raise of their "discretionary" fund that they use for "office expenses."
And could someone please explain what exactly a RAINY DAY FUND is? I know what Daley tells everyone it is: a fund to be held in reserve for when the city is experiencing a crisis.
So just how bad does it have to get before he releases these funds? And is it just me or does it sound like a contradiction to have all this money set aside and then cry poor? Just imagine if you wanted to declare bankruptcy and the judge discovered you had a sizable savings account. What do you think would happen?
Tell the public and shortshanks to hire more exempts, gold stars and administrators, with double pension, like Tom Byrne and Puberman. Ask Jodie to give up part of his salary for the"city"! And yes, we need to promote more captins, younger, without spots, so they can ensure the politics of Shitago continues.
OT:http://www.examiner.com/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2009m7d14-Breaking-Major-has-orders-recinded-Questioning-Obamas-legitimacy
O.T.; Fact, Mike Croin is coming back to as a civilian to work for the mayor. Will be guarding the mayors crib in MI.
Will get paid from Daley slush fund.
Mike go find a woman already !!!
7/16/2009 01:23:00 AM
He will fall asleep very fast. just leave him cookies and warm milk.
And a company car ?
Arbitrator Edwin Benn has come right out and said that NO POLICE OR FIRE UNION will come out ahead in arbitration financially because of the economy. In many ways it would be best to just wait out the economy even if it takes 5 or 6 more years..
And to all you F(L)OP-bashing 5 year wonders, grab those ankles and learn how to be patient punks.
Not too long ago there were dedicated and younger members of our "Union" who presented alternatives to the POS "Fraternal Order of Daley." Excellent arguments were made and supporting documents were on-hand to prove that the members of our "representatives" were squandering our funds and lining their pockets while pretending to assist us with our futures.
So...what happened?
the majority of our rank & file voted them in and continue to vote for them.
BLAME YOURSELVES!
There is no reason why we should not have professional negotiators steering our "boat" through Daley's sewer instead of a under-educated "union" who attends a few seminars, collects a check for each meeting and claims he is qualified to negotiate for us.
All these shootings....there is no reason why we can not have on-call ATTORNEYS who will come to assist us and protect our rights before the round-table instead of some drunken prick who shows up bringing pizzas. NOTE: The FOP DOES NOT HAVE CLIENT PRIVILEGE SO WATCH WHAT YOU SAY TO THEM. Right S.D.? (Claim chest pains and go to the ER)
You can say what you want, but I used to attend every meeting and I saw the same thing for ten to fifteen years. The FOP will do what the city wants. The arbitrator will do what the city wants. And the majority of us will continue to vote for the same brand of idiots. We need professionals on our side, not greedy politician/lobbyists who pretend to be the police while the steal our money and provide no backup whatsoever.
Please be safe, watch out for each other and love your families.
Outside perspective:
FOP is crazy if they think they're going to get anybody a raise in this economy.
And the public opinion of CPD will take yet another hit if you raise a huge stink about this.
Get out of the bubble, guys. Yeah, you're getting screwed. But these days everyone is getting screwed. Calm down and try to enjoy it. That's what the rest of us have to do.
HATER said...
WHY NOT JUST REFUSE TO GO TO ARBITRATION... I SAY DRAG IT OUT 2 MORE YEARS. THE ECONOMY IS SUPPOSED TO BE BETTER BY THEN!!!
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The economy was FINE when the contract expired.
Keep it all you prick mayor, give us residency. I wont need a raise when i live in Indiana.
Little wonders that pass in a day:
How much did the palm trees cost the taxpayers? They had to be found,ordered,dug up, transported,planted, cared for etc.at what cost???
How much did the fireworks cost the taxpayers? While S&S were laying off workers...
If you don't have a summer home and don't have a boat of your own guarded 24/7 how are you supposed to know what boat to get into???
Why aren't any other union leaders vying or contending for the future contracts and membership votes from the CPD and CFD in the future???
Now is the time to show your support and intentions, not after the fact. Why?
Will the home devaluations in the city of chicago be used in arbitration? Seems like homeowners are losing money but still paying inflated taxes.
LET THE SLOW DOWN BEGIN...........
SCC,
This is off topic so post it somewhere else or delete it but,
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1088/pro-terror-group-to-meet-in-chicago-suburb
The article is a pro-terrorist organization meeting at the Hilton in Oak Lawn this week. Good times!
It's more like a ship - Titanic. And he's at the helm!
No. It's more like he throws on a woman's dress to get into the life boat to leave the rest of us to drown.
Shortshanks did the smae thing the last contract, once the police and fire singed, there were no more unpaid days. Its all a ploy to squirrell more money away to pay for the olympics nobody wants
Why do some of u think that the answer to everything is the residency. Who the hell do u think is going to buy ur OVER PRICED HOME!!! U will lose retro, raise, medical, and the value in ur home fools! If we leave, so does fire and others will follow. So ur 400,000 dollar home will get u about 100,000 from some shithead! Need I say more. We lose big time.
16 July
Sun Times posted this headline on the internet:
" 6 Hour Bloodbath in Chicago"
Is the chicago pd undermanned, out gunned, operating under unsafe conditions in today's climate???
YES !!!
The taxpayers are missing the "Boat". The "SS Shortshanks" is
following the way of the "Titanic"
AND
while the music is playing olympic themes da-maer says, "What icebergs ??? Cookoo ones, ha ha ha.
use guys stay in da boat.
well we will get to see dick daleys olympic money now...fu rd
(OT) But important even the liberal press is covering this, look at title "Chicago 6 hour bloodbath"
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/4.Killed.At.2.1088059.html
I'd imagine he finally found an "arbitartor" that will ok ZERO retro....
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nailed it on the head!!!!
WHO THE FUCK DOES DALEY THINK IS DOING THEIR PART IN BRINING IN REVEUE, THE STREETS AND SAND GUYS THAT STAND AROUND A FUCKING HOLE IN THE STREETS FOR 3-DAYS DOING NOTHING OR THE COPS THAT WRITE THAT PARKING TICKET. IM NOT WRITING ANOTHER FUCKING PARKER.
FOP pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeee push the residency issue. If we are allowed to live wherever we want like all other big city police are daley would throw the biggest hissy fit ever and we would not need a raise.
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Hey, jag....you pay my mortgage, fine...til then, I'd like for my property value to hold a little.
K-9 Bear is still missing, the dept has no one looking for hin,he was last seen 94th Harding, had had reports of a loose shephard around 87th Cicero, please help find Bear, a reward is offered
--I'd love to find Bear. Don't think he should be returned to his owner though. Maybe let the dog in the house once in a while. How about a higher fence.
Maybe all PO's should jump on the boat of not writing ANY tickets.
No retro equals no living in this shitty you heard FLOP?
Stop doing the City a favor - Refuse to work as a 10-99 unit !!!! They have to put you inside if you refuse. Let him really see how short handed we are.
Is this a scare tactic, so that the CFD and the CPD will start to give up furlough days and unpaid holidays (comp time instead)to make us share the "pain" like the rest of the city employeees in exchange for going to arbitration?
--Scare tactic or not ... bring it Daley. Show us how much you spent on nonsense.
It may not be a good thing - shut up, stick together and deal with it.
Interesting that "Tricky Dick" Daley uses the "boat" analogy.
It's more like a ship - Titanic. And he's at the helm!
rb
7/16/2009 03:40:00 AM
You see that Iceberg up ahead? Yep, that one, with those “Rings” on it. It looks suspiciously like “Da ‘Limpkis”. Thank God I’m not on THAT boat!
Anonymous said...
Arbitration (Daley uses the economy when its in his favor)
Is this a scare tactic, so that the CFD and the CPD will start to give up furlough days and unpaid holidays (comp time instead)to make us share the "pain" like the rest of the city employeees in exchange for going to arbitration?
Submitted by a 25 Year CFD member.
7/16/2009 07:19:00 AM
CPD cannot win. Daley does not roll the dice. He has FOP against the wall. Furlough days are coming to everyone, CPD and CFD. Forget retro pay, the city cannot afford it. The arbitrator will agree with Daley. Everyone is doing furlough days so suck it up. This would have never been tolerated 20 years ago when we had poilce officers with real balls. NOw all hair gel police.
People its time to get back in the boat. This is your captain speaking, get in the boat. Enter from the rear, no not the front, the rear, your rear. Turn around, there you go, get in, go to the main dining room, there are cookies and kool aid, compliments of king Richard.
Daley and the Aldercreatures seem to forget that they voted themselves a nice 6% raise to go with their office expense fund, their vehicle expense fund, their re-election fund, their unaccounted for slush fund and their bonuses for serving on any committee.
I will be happy to do my part and play along with the unpaid days when these fools start leading by example. Let's see them start giving up double digit percentages across the board for every fund they are ripping off the tax payers (us). Let's see them start paying for their health care. Let's see them pay into their retirement. Let's see them eliminate their slush fund and car fund. Let's see them serve on committees for free.
Just a reminder for Daley and the Aldercreatures, since some of them can actually read. You were elected by the people and your place is to serve the people, not the other way around.
I would love to see a referendum for term limits for all these scumbag politicians.
Since none of this is actually going to happen, I am rooting for Rio to get the Olympics even though the billions Daley has squirreled away for them has already been spent bribing the committee members. If we don't get the Olympics none of that selling off asset money will materialize. It has already been spent. Our children and grandchildren will be left holding the bag.
I am bailing as soon as I am able and I would advise everyone else to do the same. Don't just leave the city when you retire, leave the state. If we get the Olympics, the city will be completely broke and will be relying on the State to bail them out.
Sorry for the long rant. I just had to vocalize some things. Thanks for allowing me the space to do it. Keep up the good work SCC.
I am all for pushing the residency issue,but I think only scc could drum up the support for it to even remotley be consideredby flop.perhaps one of scc's polls to start. I think a lot of people could benefit monetarily and emotionaly to get out of shitcago.
It is time for the FOP to play hard ball to. Sue over residency in the last 15 years the residency laws have been stricken down, sue to get the budget books opened up. sue to demand acces to the TIF booksTIFS are property taxes that are supposed to pay city worker salarys. Daley has diverted this money away from the general fund and then says there is no money. Its BS for god sake Marky mark grow a pair and quit being Daleys bitch. COME STRAIGHT OUT AND CALL DALEY A LIAR at least go down fighting you sissy. No more being nice come out swinging dont take it in the ass and then say thank you.
Chalkie made 2 visits to 014 last night...
Why isnt anyone talking about the raises the 50 aldercreatures received. Where is the outcry on the news. Correct me if I am wrong it was a 6.8% per year raise for 4 years, 8 years in and receive-full pension, full benny's, city car and staff and alot more, wait I forgot-its a part-time job!!!!. But remember they are the front line of defence. Holy shit, i'm running for alderman next time. Local 2 and the FOP should join forces and march again on this asshole
Cop Shot In Leg On Far South Side
July 16, 2009 1:17 PM
A Chicago police officer was shot in the leg on the Far South Side early this afternoon, a source said.
The shooting occurred near East 112th Street and South State Street.
No other details were immediately available.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/
2009/07/police-involved-shooting-
on-far-se-side.html
one guy grab a leg ..one guy grab the other...turn upside down and shake repeatedly. wow! there s our raise and retro. another thing. you have to be a gentleman to have a gentlemen s agreement.another question. just how many people in this city of 3 million do pay taxes? this city is full of freeloaders and illegals and WE THE TAX PAYERS pay 100% for them. why no outcry about that horseshit? oh, i forgot. the dummies run this state!
guess what boys and girls. take this to the bank. the 10 percent offer the city has is going to be cut by the arbitrater to 5 percent. the city is in a GREAT position. this is all a ploy by the city. they wanted the 471 layoffs because now the arbitrator has no other option except to side with the city. no chance in hell an arbitrator is going to give us more money after 471 city employees just lost jobs because of the economy and city debt. ill be very suprised if there is any type of retro.. i see 1 percent a year and a small increase in duty availability and uniform checks. its gonna be a tight couple of years with money boys and girls. lets not forget, we are ranked #3 when it comes to big city police officer salaries.. we dont have much room at all now to argue when it comes to arbitration. any raise at all in arbitration will be a gift. hate to say it, but the city won this war. we will see what happens in 3 years when next contract is up.
K-9 Bear is still missing, the dept has no one looking for hin,he was last seen 94th Harding, had had reports of a loose shephard around 87th Cicero, please help find Bear, a reward is offered
Thank You
7/16/2009 12:20:00 AM
Why so his handler can embarrass the city and neglect him so that he can go missing again.
besides hes probably got a new owner an an undefeated record in the dog fighting circuit by now.
fuck retro let them keep it if they give up residency restrictions.
5 p.o.'s shot in New Jersey 2p.o.'s shot on 112th and Michigan just happened executing a search warrant Lord help and protect us!!
all the fop has to do is tell everyone exactly how many police officers we are down. clearly if we are down 3,000+ officers, we are doing our part.... the next step would to tell everyone how much these gold stars are making and how useless they are.
7/16/2009 08:09:00 AM
I second that motion.
Here's an easy answer, 55 and out. 55 at 80% you will see the flood gate open and the city will save lots of money. Screw these guys and their 6% raises. If that settled our contract whenit expired we would of had a decent raise like every other union got. Instead they screw police and fire because we can't strike.
Next to the teachers, the police are the highest educated employees for the city. Since we put our lifes on the line trying to control these animals the city caters to, we should get no less then the teachers did.
DAVID HOFFMAN FOR MAYOR!!!!
with this the mayor broke all the unions i hope fop will march on city hall 24/7 fuck the mayor show him that we are not going to take it anymore march march match be the real police dont write any tickets anymore then the mayor we give in to the police
Chicago Breaking News
Thursday-16 July 2009
What's in a name?
Not much, Mayor Richard Daley said today after Chicago's tallest building was officially renamed from Sears Tower to Willis Tower.
Asked if he would call the building "Big Willie," as the CEO of Willis Group Holding has joked, Daley said, "'Big Willie', Willis Tower, yeah. You know why? Because they stepped up to the plate."
"There has to be change in government and business," the mayor said. "and you have to realize that change is good."
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RMD,
You are right jagoff. Change is good, very good, and it would be extremely good in your case. So why don't you resign from being Mayor of the city of Chicago and change your address by getting the fuck out of town. You are the reason for it all. The corrupt business practices, the inherent nepotism, the thievery and the absolute destruction of the morale in the city's public safety corps. It is you. All you. Change brings a breath of fresh air and we should get a new, clean breeze blowing through the 5th floor of City Hall post haste! Now that would be a great day. Do the right thing RMD, and stay the fuck in your Michigan enclave, forever.
There is something wrong with him...how can he keep a straight face and say CPD and CFD have to take cut with the murder rate and crime rate so high. Weren't there 120 people shot last week? He should be thanking the Paramedics for saving some of these mutts. This way he can fudge his crime stats. Can't someone hand him a nice heavy wight and give him a swim test while he is out of the boat
Every time this prick cries poor, someone should ask him, finally, "Where's the $1 billon for the Olympics?"
HEY DONOHUE....
Go back to sleep...
the olny thing worse....is seeing these sellouts writing tons of tickets.
You said it brother, I agree. Come to Area 3, bunch of fucking robots.
NO RESIDENCY AFTER 10 YEARS ON THE JOB, THIS WILL EASE THE TRANSITION, PROPERTY VALUES WON'T PLUNGE, AND CPD STILL KEEPS YOUNG, AGGRESIVE OFFICERS HERE IN THE CITY FOR HALF THEIR CAREER. ANYONE WITH OVER 10 YEARS ON AND VESTED IN PENSION CAN LEAVE CITY RESIDENCY WHENEVER THEY WANT TO.
Great Mayor called our bluff. We fucked in arbitration. Go out and write city stickers! When will you fuckers learn?????
I've been seeing some bumper stickers lately wit, Impeach Daley 2011.
I hope this trend continues.
LIFT THE RESIDENCY AND THIS LITTLE FUCKER CAN HAVE WHAT HE WANTS! I CAN'T WAIT TO GET OUT OF THIS CORRUPT CITY AND FUCKED UP STATE OF OBAMAITES!!!!!!!
Daley is a TURD!!!!!!!!!!!
Did anyone see the flyer talking about the SEIU vote? Covers detention aides, etc. 6.25% for las 1/2 of 2009, 3.00% for 2010. Sounds like 9.25% over about 18 months to me.
Our contract is for 48 months? how about 24.66%??? (thats 2 2/3 times the 9.25% for 18 months)Hello arbitrator, look at past practice pleezzee!
Details at http://www.seiu73.org/
Is that it. FOP makes a wisecrack about Daley hitting his head and a statement about mumbling and this is what we are paying them for. It is simple, compile a list over the last two to four years of what prices have gone up. Compile a list of the corruptive and mismanaged attrocities that have come out of city hall. Call a press conference and rip him a new one. Then plan to go to every meeting that the olympic commitee has planned and hammer the shit home over and over again. Its hopeless.
let's march? it did not work the first time, its not going to work the second or third or so on. the mayor and everyone else could care less. we need help from outside. more now than ever. plus all these animals out there are shooting at police more than before. back each other up on jobs and keep up eyes up. the storm will clear, just ride it out.
People listen to yourself. You all cry, but the end result is the same . Comments about give me a partner, fully staff the dept. and Ill give up a furlo day. WTF! NEVER give up anything.Look what happend to the medical just $2.00 was given up, now look what you pay. DONT EVEN SAY GIVE UP SOMETHING. Residency is a state mandated law look it up. Oh! sorry you gel heads havent been around that long to remember anything!
Maybe bear is in the boat and thats why we can't find him because we are not in the boat. Bear get out of the boat, the boat is not a good place to be.
Bear come home, please.
E Mail of all kinds spreads out everywhere. If everyone that agrees went into their E Mail accounts and wrote with a large ,bold font,DUMP DALEY in the signature box it would spread far and wide.
When is the next election??
This is the same guy that gets all blubbery& sheds the crocodile tears @ Police Officers Funeral.
Nothing more than a phony sick twist . Mr."I sleep better at night knowing Luberman is in control". That itself speaks volumes on his judgment& character more than anything else.
Wise up chumps, time to do nothing that you don't have to do. If you keep supporting the city they don't and will not give you shit. Do what you have to do only carefully and slowly so you don't fuck anything up. "Ya no what i'm sayen"
“For the month of July we’ve had about almost an incident a day where someone has tried to murder a police officer,” Weis said. “If they’ll do that to a uniformed officer, what will they do to civilians and innocent people on the street. That’s why we need the entire community to get together. Because if the bad guys are willing to shoot uniformed officers the citizens the this city are in very grave danger.”
j-fed realizes this but we can t get a contract
The irish mafia sold out their union members.
Your boat won't float. Fuck off!
He done tipped the boat over.
An arbitrator does not care what raise the alderman received...he doesn't care what the head of streets and sans makes...all he does is look at comparable police departments to come to a decision on salary and retro,etc. Somebody look at NYPD, LAPD, and Phoenix to see what they received or gave up....This could get scary.
Now more than ever, don't dog the FOP. Let them know you're behind them. Go to the meeting. Let's stand together for a change. That would scare the shit out of all of the scumsuckers.
If you want to talk about "Bargaining in good Faith"All you have to do is look at the 2007 contract for the Teamsters.They made concessions,agreed to a ten year contract and the Mayor screws them anyway. He has courted Organized Labor in the past. he does not need them anymore. What a jerk-off!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did anyone see the flyer talking about the SEIU vote? Covers detention aides, etc. 6.25% for las 1/2 of 2009, 3.00% for 2010. Sounds like 9.25% over about 18 months to me.
Our contract is for 48 months? how about 24.66%??? (thats 2 2/3 times the 9.25% for 18 months)Hello arbitrator, look at past practice pleezzee!
Details at http://www.seiu73.org/
7/16/2009 03:40:00 PM
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Look harder. They have been without a contract for 2 years. NO RETRO. The dispatchers got screwed.
Sumbitted by a 25 year CFD member:
This was sent out today by the CFD Union President:
July 16th 2009
Dear Brothers and Sisiters:
For those of you, who have missed it, Mayor Daley announced at his July 15th State of the City Address that contracts for both the Police and Fire would now be decided by an Arbitrator. It has always been my understanding that arbitration becomes necessary only when the two parties can no longer make progress in negotiations and have reached an impasse.
On June 25th 2009, just three short weeks ago, we met with the City Negotiators and their was absolutely no mention whatsoever of impasse or arbitration. In fact, we actually tentatively agreed on several smaller-scale issues.
In a meeting with the City today July 16th 2009 we reaffirmed the fact that the City of Chicago has NOT rescinded the 16% raise offer. The Mayor's comments are contrary to the current status of our negotiations.
We have scheduled a special meeting of your Local 2 Executive Board for July 23rd 2009 and are looking to set up another round of negotiations for late July or early August 2009.
We will continue to keep you apprised of any developments as they happen.
Fraternally,
Thomas E. Ryan, Jr
President Local 2
Submitted by a 25 year CFD member.....
I am all for pushing the residency issue,but I think only scc could drum up the support for it to even remotley be consideredby flop.perhaps one of scc's polls to start. I think a lot of people could benefit monetarily and emotionaly to get out of shitcago.
7/16/2009 01:04:00 PM
Lets do a vote SCC. Anybody think we are are getting retro/raise is crazy.
Drop residency now!!!
Anonymous said...
In lieu of a raise I would gladly take more furlough, bfd and p-days, retro must be included though, also, the Aldermen MUST take a 6% pay cut(forgo their nice raise they gave themselves)also, all meritorious must be eliminated from promotions. It's a start.
7/16/2009 09:42:00 AM
Wishful thinking. And I want to loose 100 pounds, add 10 inches and win the lotto. Hahaha! You will get what the mayor gives you. He owns the dice you idiot!
Bedford park after five years makes 82,000
lets go all the way Get rid of your people district mangers that will help u cut cost.Maybe u should get rid of 25 Altercreachers.that alone will save the people money.Just think about all the croines in their offices oh thats right cost cut my allies dont be serious."Let the people of chicago suffer" My family needs the money.Richie u have ruined this city cost the tax payer lots of money hope that the feds come into your office and take you away in cuffs remember rod.they got him in the morning.Have a good night sleep it might be your last one.I hope David Hoffmancan still has his power because he is a good man and he would lock u up.Your father was happy with what he did for the people of Chicago but you Righie want to take everything away from the people in chicago and just have u and your family and we will not forget your Altercreachers take things away and put the blame on everyone else.stand up u spineless bastard and face the music.
Anonymous said...
Next to the teachers, the police are the highest educated employees for the city. Since we put our lifes on the line trying to control these animals the city caters to, we should get no less then the teachers did.
7/16/2009 02:16:00 PM
Teachers got a raise but gave up benefits. Compare the entire contract. Daley will give a good raise without retro. Daley owns the dice. He is not dumb. He also owns the boat.
This honor roll student agress with whoever said "let's march again". March and demand a decent contract and stop putting all of the blame on Daley, he does not run this city by himself although from what the alderpersons contribute, when they are not getting caught stealing, is nothing, it seems as if he is the only thinking person at City Hall.
Nobody wants fewer Police Officers especially at a time when we are in a crime explosion and no one wants an unhappy, underpaid and overworked Officer so speak up, get on your soapbox for your rights and let people know the city is trying to stick to you, you will be surprised at the support you get.
LOST IN FILLMORE!!! CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW DICK?!!! I ROLLED THE DICE STUCK MY FINGER IN YOUR DYKE. AND LAUGH EVERY FUCKING DAY AT THIS FUCKED UP PLACE AND THIS SAD EXCUSE OF A JOB! POLICE WORK USED TO BE FUN AND I LOVED BEING HERE DOING THE JOB. BUT ALL THE BS KILLED MY POLICE SPIRIT THANK YOU! DICK DICK DICK!!!! (Masters!). ( wow that felt good)
Anonymous said...
Here's an easy answer, 55 and out. 55 at 80% you will see the flood gate open and the city will save lots of money. Screw these guys and their 6% raises. If that settled our contract whenit expired we would of had a decent raise like every other union got. Instead they screw police and fire because we can't strike.
7/16/2009 02:11:00 PM
Include medical and many will be gone so fast, look at all the money daley would save! Look at how many people would be killed and maimed in this criminal run shitty!!
Anonymous said...
guess what boys and girls. take this to the bank. the 10 percent offer the city has is going to be cut by the arbitrater to 5 percent. the city is in a GREAT position. this is all a ploy by the city. they wanted the 471 layoffs because now the arbitrator has no other option except to side with the city. no chance in hell an arbitrator is going to give us more money after 471 city employees just lost jobs because of the economy and city debt. ill be very suprised if there is any type of retro.. i see 1 percent a year and a small increase in duty availability and uniform checks. its gonna be a tight couple of years with money boys and girls. lets not forget, we are ranked #3 when it comes to big city police officer salaries.. we dont have much room at all now to argue when it comes to arbitration. any raise at all in arbitration will be a gift. hate to say it, but the city won this war. we will see what happens in 3 years when next contract is up.
7/16/2009 01:54:00 PM
Will the mayors suckasses please stay off "our" blog! thanks!
Our contract is for 48 months? how about 24.66%??? (thats 2 2/3 times the 9.25% for 18 months)Hello arbitrator, look at past practice pleezzee!
Details at http://www.seiu73.org/
7/16/2009 03:40:00 PM
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Look harder. They have been without a contract for 2 years. NO RETRO. The dispatchers got screwed.
7/16/2009 08:01:00 PM
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OK, so the same couldn't happen to us? No contract for 2 years. Us too. No retro? A possibility.
I still see 9.25% over 18 months. Which would be the equivalent of 12.33% over 24 months for us with a 4 year contract, assuming nothing from Jun 07 to Jun 09
Da Mare took 16% over 4 years off the table for us, and gave them 9.25% over 18 months.
How did the dispatchers get screwed? I wouldn't be surprised, but I really don't know, please explain....Thanks !
Lift residency
FUCK YOU DALEY
Anonymous said...
Here's an easy answer, 55 and out. 55 at 80% you will see the flood gate open and the city will save lots of money. Screw these guys and their 6% raises. If that settled our contract whenit expired we would of had a decent raise like every other union got. Instead they screw police and fire because we can't strike.
and make it a one time deal with the 80% being of your total income including overtime. That would clear the stations,
Anonymous said...
fuck retro let them keep it if they give up residency restrictions.
7/16/2009 01:57:00 PM
FUCK YOU!!
Anonymous said...
Our contract is for 48 months? how about 24.66%??? (thats 2 2/3 times the 9.25% for 18 months)Hello arbitrator, look at past practice pleezzee!
Details at http://www.seiu73.org/
7/16/2009 03:40:00 PM
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Look harder. They have been without a contract for 2 years. NO RETRO. The dispatchers got screwed.
7/16/2009 08:01:00 PM
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OK, so the same couldn't happen to us? No contract for 2 years. Us too. No retro? A possibility.
I still see 9.25% over 18 months. Which would be the equivalent of 12.33% over 24 months for us with a 4 year contract, assuming nothing from Jun 07 to Jun 09
Da Mare took 16% over 4 years off the table for us, and gave them 9.25% over 18 months.
How did the dispatchers get screwed? I wouldn't be surprised, but I really don't know, please explain....Thanks !
7/16/2009 09:57:00 PM
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I would explain but it would be wasted. If you cannot understand how they got a 9.25 raise which was back loaded, no retro for 2 years, then I cant help you.
To all you simpletons and morons saying we're screwed, fawked, weak etc ad nauseum... GFY! You are the fools who are doing what Daley wants!
Divide and conquer! His only game! I don't buy into it!
OPEN YOUR EYES! He can play the "we're broke" line to the press but he HAS TO PROVE IT TO THE ARBITRATOR!
We're vilified and villianized in the press already. I say screw it! I'll be Snidely Flippin Whiplash so long we do our level best to stick it in his arse!
The economy was FINE when the contract expired. Why can't we get a contract on time????????
Next to the teachers, the police are the highest educated employees for the city. Since we put our lifes on the line trying to control these animals the city caters to, we should get no less then the teachers did.
TRUE
Look harder. They have been without a contract for 2 years. NO RETRO. The dispatchers got screwed.
__They CHOSE to settle for no retro.
FOP makes a wisecrack about Daley hitting his head and a statement about mumbling and this is what we are paying them for.
--By the FOP not bashing the Mayor in public, the Mayor is the one that looks like the asshole.
WEDNESDAY, JULY 15, 2009 ***FOP***
MUMBLING OUT OF TURN 07/15/09
Today, the Mayor held a press conference at which he again blamed the Lodge for pulling the City’s original financial package off the table. Equally ridiculous, was his statement about going to arbitration. Neither the Department nor the City’s Attorneys have expressed a desire to declare impasse at this time. Should talks over major issues currently being discussed begin to falter we would welcome arbitration. The Lodge fully understands the financial difficulty that the City has become embroiled in and the appropriate forum to discuss solutions to their problem is currently at the negotiating table and not in the media.
Go to the CFD website and get a load of what those guys think of their POS President that they call SissyNo Balls. We are in the same boat as them.
WE LOSE THE OLYMPIC BID. MAYOR DALEY GETS INDICTED. DALEY CROAKS. HAT TRICK!!!
city has no money and has to lay off people and ask for unpaid furlough days, yet has money to put kaleidascopes by the riverwalk ?
My cousin served in Vietnam and died from agent orange. My uncle flew fighter planes in Korea and was never the same when he came home. My father served in the navy and my brother served in the army. Another cousin is in Afghanastan.
Many friends in desert storm and some now in Iraq. How many of your family and friends served in the wars, how many didn't come home or were seriously injured. It doesn't make a difference why they were sent there, they thought they were going to protect us and protect FREEDOM. That is the only reason I want residency lifted. We should
be able to enjoy the freedom that any other citizen has. No one should have that much power that they can dictate where you live and raise your family. I probably wouldn't leave at least not right
away I'm not going to take the hit on the house just like a lot of us. Also there are many that won't leave because their families are here as well as for other reasons. But we should be able to enjoy that right that is afforded to us by our constitution. We should be able to enjoy the same right that illegals enjoy. I know we aren't fighting like the ones I mentioned above, their fight was for the country. A city or municipality should not be able to take away from us what others fought for, to me its a form of dictatorship and oppression. Thanks for the rant.
i wonder how much money we save the city every day by working our lunches for free in districts with constant backlogs?? how much money will this save the city come retro payback time?
we are already making sacrifices richie. if one officer works his lunch only half the days of the year, that is close to 100 hours that officer has worked for free for the city. so . . . .
STOP WORKING FOR FREE.
Request lunch at your assigned lunch time (it's on the schedule). when it's denied, bring your yellow slip to the sergeant at check-off. if he says he will let you go early some other time, just say sorry boss, but I DONT WORK FOR FREE FOR DALEY WHEN HE WONT GIVE US A CONTRACT AND I DONT NEED ANY FREEBIES FROM YOU. I WORK FOR A LIVING. And if you keep me til 0030, i'll go back out and find an arrest, maybe the arrestee will resist, and we can all work overtime doing TRR's, IOD reports, inventories, etc. on our super speedy never broken computers. and maybe i'll throw in a trip to the hospital. Kiss my A@* and sign my slip you hump.
next election vote for anyone but the incumbent.
P.S. Don't get in the boat
Anonymous said...
Look harder. They have been without a contract for 2 years. NO RETRO. The dispatchers got screwed.
__They CHOSE to settle for no retro.
7/16/2009 11:14:00 PM
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No they didn't. They are lumped in with other civilian employees. They are a smaller group and were stuck with the majority.
Snidely Whiplash said...
To all you simpletons and morons saying we're screwed, fawked, weak etc ad nauseum... GFY! You are the fools who are doing what Daley wants!
Divide and conquer! His only game! I don't buy into it!
OPEN YOUR EYES! He can play the "we're broke" line to the press but he HAS TO PROVE IT TO THE ARBITRATOR!
We're vilified and villianized in the press already. I say screw it! I'll be Snidely Flippin Whiplash so long we do our level best to stick it in his arse!
7/16/2009 11:04:00 PM
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Where did you get, he has to prove it to an arbitrator that the city is broke?
No, the city does NOT have to open its financial books to an arbitrator.
No, the arbitrator CANNOT force the city to open its financial books.
The arbitrator could care less whether the city has $$ or not.
The city can cry poor but all the arbitrator will look at is past settlements (contracts) and what other cities have received in their contracts.
The arbitrator will also look to see if both parties have been negotiating in good faith.
He could concievably force both parties back to the table as well, (that is unlikely given we are two years out of a contract).
Anonymous said...
Did anyone see the flyer talking about the SEIU vote? Covers detention aides, etc. 6.25% for las 1/2 of 2009, 3.00% for 2010. Sounds like 9.25% over about 18 months to me.
Our contract is for 48 months? how about 24.66%??? (thats 2 2/3 times the 9.25% for 18 months)Hello arbitrator, look at past practice pleezzee!
Details at http://www.seiu73.org/
7/16/2009 03:40:00 PM
Not quite.
That contract also includes us dispatchers...but we're not listed on the SEIU page because we're in a separate [powerless] union. Our contract expired the same day yours did...July 1, 2007. The 6.25% on 01Aug09 is a "catch-up" of sorts for the last 2 years without a contract, so it's actually 3.125% retroactively for each of the last 2 years, followed by another 3% in January, for a contract expiring at the end of 2010.
It's 9.25% over 3 and a half years. And no retro.
Bedford park after five years makes 82,000
And their cars dont flip,their bosses are fair,and they get over 1000 a year in allowances not to mention a "special weapons" authorization. After all it DOES take an M-4 to take down some of those dreaded North American Field Mice out there by Corn Products.
Oh DAMN maybe Jodie will stick his finger in that jem of a job and screw THAT up too.
K-9 Bear is still missing, the dept has no one looking for hin,he was last seen 94th Harding, had had reports of a loose shephard around 87th Cicero, please help find Bear, a reward is offered
Thank You
Screw that dog. Let the handler go look for him. First time was a collective effort. This time its just plain and simple carelessness on the handlers part. Now everyone can jump on me for that but its TRUE.
But on here, good God, this poor guy is slammed like jfed or daley. NOT fair... defend your brother, no one else will!
defend WHAT? The ineptness of this guy? The FACT he cant control his dog? The FACT that he is COUNTING on you to help(ooops I mean COVER UP) his sloppy performance AGAIN? I agree with the other post...put this guy on a beat car or maybe the TRU unit.No wait there are DOGS there too.........
OT: To the PO at the man down call at 61 and Kedzie on 16 July 09 at 1710(Beat 824 ???) The guy that walked up to you was trying to explain to you that the person you had in the back of your Tahoe was HIV +. But you apparently had a few too many espressos and your "Italian Attitude" took over. But it did make some very interesting video. You NEED to relax and loose that superman attitude. Dental implants are expensive Office.
Drop residency? Either you don't own a house or you live in a crappy neighborhood and you'll lose money anyway. Where will we go? IF they EVER drop residency, I am sure there is some type of rule that would state that you have to live within xx amount of miles from Chicago city limits.
Here is the legislation as to residency:
Residency requirements for police and firemen are even more complex. According to Section 3.1-10-6, municipalities with a population of not more than 500,000, may adopt ordinances that allow policemen and firemen to reside outside the corporate limits.[4] In addition, recent legislation has made residency negotiable during collective bargaining for both police and fire.[5] It is now a subject which can be resolved by an arbitrator, thus making it an item on the table during negotiations. How this will eventually play out in the legal system is unknown. Interestingly, the General Assembly, in this new legislation, did require residency in Illinois. Remember, however, that collective bargaining is only available to municipalities with 35 or more employees or where the city and employees both agree to unionization.
Stand proud,stand tall, stand strong, more importantly, STAND TOGETHER .
Daley/shortshanks doesn't know how to do any of these things !
WE LOSE THE OLYMPIC BID. MAYOR DALEY GETS INDICTED. DALEY CROAKS. HAT TRICK!!!
7/17/2009 12:32:00 AM
While I love hat tricks, I'd settle for "Daley indicted" first. Then he could die in prison and burn in hell. And the Olympic bid would be done.
i say CPD and CFD all give Daley his furlough day, I'll say 8 Aug(bud biliken) or maybe 31 dec...
all of those looking to get residency lifted instead of retro better start looking at some of the taxes your going to pay outside the city. You can pretty much triple what you are paying now. Does the education benefits equal the increased taxes that you have to pay the next 20yrs?
Oh yeah wait, could you sell your house?
"I heard a wise man say, the only difference between the CPD and the Titanic is, the Titanic had a band...
7/16/2009 09:39:00 AM"
Yeah, but we gots our Ipods!
we have to stick together now more than ever. our 30% management in the ranks is dividing us because they are suckholes and have no balls to stick up for themselves. we all plan progressive marches, threaten absolutely no ticket writing, and take our time to hot calls, let the bad numbers go up, were short anyway. then we DEMAND our pay raise, and what little rights we do have. we dont give ANYTHING up! if the FOP cant get the job done, we vote them all out give it to those who can stand up for us. we have so much power we dont even realize it, all it takes is organization and desire to get what we DESERVE! SPREAD THE WORD LETS GET SERIOUS-ANYTHING GOES NOWWWW!!!!
I dont give a fuck what our contract says about not "striking", if we dont get what we deserve, we stay home for 1,2,3, 4 days. No writing tickets, we shut this mutha down. That is all it would take, call in the military to protect the streets, thats what we need anyway! we are in a combat zone now! Nobody would bring the olympics here, that would solve that problem, cause you know people are waiting to get rich while we suffer on the side.
we are being fucked over so bad, we dont even realize it, we are getting used to it as the years go by and we arent doing nothing about it. its time for a change, we can make the difference. extreme times mean extreme measures, only together we can................
Anonymous said...
Bedford park after five years makes 82,000
And their cars dont flip,their bosses are fair,and they get over 1000 a year in allowances not to mention a "special weapons" authorization. After all it DOES take an M-4 to take down some of those dreaded North American Field Mice out there by Corn Products.
Oh DAMN maybe Jodie will stick his finger in that jem of a job and screw THAT up too.
7/17/2009 06:19:00 AM
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I had dealings with Bedford Park about 8- 10 yrs ago. Son backed up and hit a Bedford Park squad at Best Buy. They got their damage estimate and allowed us to pay them cash for the repairs! (no having to go thru the ins. company, especially since he was only 17 yrs old).
Class acts all of them.
Here's a shout out to Bedford Park P.D.
Not a popular idea…However
I want to start out by saying; I know everybody has bills, tuition, vacation and every other damn thing to pay for however, my idea is let’s try NOT signing up for any overtime detail……NONE. Let’s shut them down….all of them ….CTA, CHA, Obama, Safe Summer or Safe Streets and all the rest of the overtime indicatives. Fuck’em lets shut them down. I know it will be hard to get everyone to do it but what the hell we got to do something. Even if it doesn’t work it would be fun to fuck with the bosses. Spread the word let’s try it for a month, a month won’t break anyone…come on just one month… the most you could get a month is four days anyway….four days won’t break anybody…I know it will hurt but it won’t break you. Spread the word …no one sign up for the month of September for any overtime indicative…let's all stick together just this one time and show this A-hole…just one month.. spread the word SEPTEMBER
if we get screwed in arbitration, VOTE TO DE CERTIFY THIS USELESS FOP!!!
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