Commander Applications?
From the comments:
- It appears the new " Commanders application packet" is by invitation only. No patrol Lts to be considered. As usual the " transparent" process is opaque.
Must be another "policy group" invention.
Applications? Gee whiz, what was the matter with the old system? Shortshanks tells the Superintendent who to put where based on aldercreature input and political reliability. And maybe an envelope or two if you come from certain wards.
No patrol lieutenants? That rumor better be false - the backbone of the Department?
And speaking of promotions, if you're on one of the big lists (Detective, Sergeant, Lieutenant), there's some good news in the pipeline:
Applications? Gee whiz, what was the matter with the old system? Shortshanks tells the Superintendent who to put where based on aldercreature input and political reliability. And maybe an envelope or two if you come from certain wards.
No patrol lieutenants? That rumor better be false - the backbone of the Department?
And speaking of promotions, if you're on one of the big lists (Detective, Sergeant, Lieutenant), there's some good news in the pipeline:
- The Judge has instructed our attorneys to present the City with a list of demands. Depending on the City's willingness to address the issues that precipitated this lawsuit will determine if the case goes to trial. At this time, the City has indicated that one option they are not interested in considering is conducting a new examination.
Labels: promotions, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
190 Comments:
well then, what is the criteria for applying for commander? if keating is rank of sgt and assigned to exempt, then why cant i apply? i will call personnel monday and let you know what they tell me.
So much for all those promises Daley made on every major news outlet that a test would be given every three years! Lies, lies and more lies.
Just tell the people what they want to hear. They won't remember in a month or two, anyway.
Wouldn't a policy group be great if it looked at ways to better the policies and the dept, instead of finding new and unique ways to bog us down with more bullshit?
Time to revamp this entire system... But not too sure about this... I heard from a very reliable source that FOP is considering giving up seniority rights to a more "fair" efficiency system... Hence the trial and error we have been hearing so much about with this green/yellow/red grading system... Apparently JFed thinks that there is a way to "reward" those who work in the now, and a way to SCREW those who have worked for the past 25 years and are taking it a bit easy on their way out... So get ready for a bomb shell... get ready to work all the way through 29 and a day! If FOP signs off on this, and it looks like it will be in exchange for insurance at 55 rather than 60 something... apples for apples... so for us guys who did our time and are lettin the hairgels carry this department looks like the free ride is over... They are working out details buut seems like this will effect days off, furloughs, watch assignments, details, unit assignments, secondary employment, etc etc... And it all boils down to revenue... who makes the most for the city... so get ready boys and girls.... men and women... this effects us all and is not good... seniority rights are going to the wayside... this new efficiency system Jody and the brain trust have invented is more than you can imagine! It is the new way of the CPD... You want to work days? Write movers... You want to work the airport? More parkers... you want 13B furlough? More curfews.. 7B furlough? Well that means more arrests... Front office work? More hot cars... Review officer? More guns... you get it... I get it... this truly is a new CPD Wanted to piss off da Mayor? Be careful what you... WE ask for, we may get it and it appears we have... good day to be a overzealous hairgel I guess... bad day to be 25 years on lookin to relax... its a different time...
Let me guess...Garrido again??? Oh SNAP!
Good news for people like me that studied our asses off and paid for a real study group since we werent invited to the secret private ones.
When are they sending out the "Commando Application"? Now that, I would apply for...
and what would he need to oversee a test for? He's got nothing to do with anything. He might as well be the Supt of the Riverdale PD. Burke's cleaning lady has more input on day to day CPD Operations than Weis does.
Applications? I heard a recently promoted SGT (MERIT), did not take the sgt's test...
How DARE you suggest that some promotions in this department may be up for sale.
It shines a negative light on our glorious department.
Now to those who know I have one question.
Cash, credit, or debit card?
o.t.
I hear Bear escaped again? Is this K9 that eager to go out and work?
"This also means that J-Fed will be the only superintendent in recent memory to serve out his term without giving a major test during his tenure."
Major --- between a captain and a commander?
I saw a copy of the 'Commander App. Packet' this morning. It is, without a doubt, the funniest, most stupid thing Weis and his merry band of clowns have published for the masses (Lt. rank and above) yet. I loved the section where the "cmdr. applicant' has to show he has all of these stelar qualities that everyone knows Weis and Masters
don't possess at all! The real closer in the packet is the disclaimer which states that the Supt. 'retains the right to fill any command staff position using an ALTERNATIVE METHOD.' Like a call from shortshanks, perhaps?
Why even submit such a useless application in the first place?
Who in the hell is advising the Supt. that this document isn't a complete embarrassment to all officers of the rank of Lt. or above? Why would anyone waste a moment of their time to even complete such a horseshit packet and submit it to people who obviously don't have a clue as to what leadership is? The inner circle is once again a joke among the entire rank and file.
considering that they havent gone to far on any of the lists Im notsurprised they dont want to give any new tests. I would rather we spend the money on some new ppos,some decent equipment, or god forbid a new contract.
The old "perception is everything" trick--what a crock of shit!
They really, really think we are stupid.
The scary thing is they may well be correct.
SMOKE AND MIRRORS!
If Chicago was Paris 1793, we would be carting off all the politicians and police brass to the guillotine.
Hey I am a patrol Lt. Is this true? What other info does anyone have? Does the Lt. association know about this? When is the law suit? where do I sign up? for the Law suit that is because I did not get an packet, I am a patrol Lt. always will be because I made it on my own and the powers that be don't like that. This is the highest spot you can get on your own merit alone kids and if you don't have any clout and don't want to kiss an Aldercreatures ass or any other such power broker, that's where you will stay until 20 and a day. Hey that rhymes.
ONE LIE AFTER ANOTHER:
JODY - Have you noticed that the exempt application process does not apply to minority held positions. It was not use to replace Helms, Skahill, Rivera, Zavala or Martinez. But it apparently is the method of choice to fill the spots vacated by McNulty and Sobczyk. LIE
Also, you promised that "everyone" would be able to apply for "merit promotions". Unfortunately, you omitted the part that still required an exempt to sponsor the applicant. The result, LIE.
The results of your lies is the spiraling morale of a once proud police department.
Plesae let them replace Carter....please let them replace Carter....please let the first to ge be Carter.
He is the CURFEW COMMANDER!
But why are they promoting in the
1st place, if they're in such financial straits. Don't give the in the budgetd crap either,City is 300mil in the Red, Remember?
"good day to be a overzealous hairgel I guess... bad day to be 25 years on lookin to relax..."
Yeah & your Daddy was a ball of fire @ age 60 the same as he was when he was 21. GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Seniority is the Hallmark of collective bargaining & is FAIR& EQUITABLE. It all about who you're connected to, be it juice or your lips. Some of the laziest pieces of shit on this job don't even have a stripe on their sleeve.
WE FINALLY GET 2 SEE WHAT THAT LT. ASSOCIATION DOES!
A BUNCH OF WANNA BE'S THAT COULDNT NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT LET ALONE A GRIEVANCE.
ALL U CHEAP WHITE SHIRTS NEED TO DO IS HIRE UR OWN LAWYER AND THEN FILE A SHACKMAN BEEF....
I FORGOT U BOYS AND GIRLS R CHICKEN SHITS BECAUSE U DONT WANT TO BE DUMPED.
SO GO AHEAD J-FED PISS OFF THE WHITE SHIRT SO THE ARMY OF PEOPLE WHO WOULDNT PISS IN UR MOUTH IF IT WAS ON FIRE GROWS.
WTH? Some whiner wants Carter replaced because he is actually making some slackers on 3rd or 1st watches go out and remove curfew violators from the streets of 004? Did it ever occur to you whiners there that maybe if you did a better job of getting your most likely shooting victims and offenders off the streets at night, your workload might just actually DECREASE on those two watches in that Godforsaken place? And that's a reason to come on here and whine about the guy? You slackers crack me up. If you're so miserable there, bid out. Retire. Or just quit.
Bitches.
now the bosses can be pissed off like the patrol officers--- i hope that means that the mission crazy event number generating field lt where i work will get himself a nice cup of coffee and find a place to hide instead of running his yap on the zone all night long--- has anyone at the fop looked over the recent pax 501, the part where it says that the department will seek termination for any officer who gets two years in a row of unacceptable performance ratings--- THATS CRAZY-- can you say unfair labor practice etc... did the superintendent have a lawyer look at this before he sent it out--- the upper level management on this department has gone buck wild---
Guys, they have not even gotten to 100 on the Sgts list and 6,000 of you took it. The LT test is at 28 over all and 2,000 took this test. It used to be is you scored under 500 on the Sgts test, you were in and under 100, on the Lt test and you were in. If they take these lists down now, I would love to know what percentile on the test you need to be in to be promoted. Top .5 of 1 %? It's the 30% meritorius thats KILLING us. Soon to be convicted Ike Carothers brother was made mertiroius. What did he do? Be upset with this. Don't punish the people on the list by taking it down because its 3 years old. Thats silly. Fight the 30%. Make it so bad for the ones that r meritorius they will NOT want to be labled as a merit hack.BTW, killing a guy should not be an automatic merit spot.
Application:1 large brown envelope.
Hence the trial and error we have been hearing so much about with this green/yellow/red grading system... Apparently JFed thinks that there is a way to "reward" those who work in the now, and a way to SCREW those who have worked for the past 25 years and are taking it a bit easy on their way out... So get ready for a bomb shell...
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Major problems with this system:
a. your activity might not be added up correctly....
b. the system is set up so each of us is blind to each others numbers.
the "bar" is invisible and can probably be moved around for each specific insident. I don't have a problem puttig up numbers, but I demand an open and fair game. No body would play football if the goal line kept moving. I want to see the alderman's retarded nephew's numbers too!
Collective bargining was fought for specifically this reason. If the FOP caves on this, We HAVE to disband them.
I think it's pretty stupid to have a commanders application. I wonder if our Superintendent had to fill out an application for SAC when he was promoted?
Did they tell you there is an application packet for Deputy Chief recently? Yes and the qualifications for it eerily seemed tailored to two current commanders. If one of them gets it that'll be interesting.
All these surface changes don't work because we can see right through them. Whoever is feeding this crap to the Superintendent should be dumped.
How about trashing the clouted merit system and finally allow people to be promoted who actually put forward their own time and effort to study. There are many of us who studied on our own with no clouted help or secret study groups. These are the people who are getting screwed.
Applications? I heard a recently promoted SGT (MERIT), did not take the sgt's test...
7/12/2009 04:34:00 AM
........that happened a few years ago with someone who was going to be merited dic and then they realized he didn't even take the test. Obviously not enough clout to pull that one.
PLEASE STOP the merit system...it does not work!
bear escapes onces shame on bear... bear escapes twice GET A FUCKING KENNEL!!!
I'll show the policy group my thing
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Clearly something needs to be done. Sadly, we've only traded 'shuck' for 'jive'. A policy grou that writes policy at the behest of dicky daley and jody, merit that remains nowhere even close to transluscent.
We really are the law enforcement Enron
Right now we have a Sgt. who is a Dep. Chief. we have had patrol men serving as commanders and have a chief of staff (CHIEF)with no police experience. I would think that any restriction on the rank you have to be to be considered for promotion would lead to a law suit if any one working for the CPD is excluded from applying.
un oh said...
"... Time to revamp this entire system... But not too sure about this... I heard from a very reliable source that FOP is considering giving up seniority rights to a more "fair" efficiency system... "
7/12/2009 12:55:00 AM
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tying all the perks in this Department to activity rather than seniority would DEFINITELY alter the culture of policing in Chicago!
It would put the ball back in the Mayor's court, and force PO's back into full work mode.
Talk about changing the fortunes and revenue stream for the city! Coppers would be racing to put parkers on cars before the meter maids get to them! Multiple citations would be the norm, and auto impounds would quadruple over night.
Of course, they always had the means to guarantee the success of the revenue producing process. All they had to do was allow the guys to share a little bit in the profit taking.
For example, when they first introduced 'sound tows', the gang bangers around Little Village with their cars full of Monster speaker systems were getting impounded with regularity, and legitimately so. The Officers would be able to make a little extra cash on the side by attending the impound hearings AND traffic court. But when it was discovered that the guys were getting paid for attending all of the hearings and such, they cut the court appearances out so the coppers couldn't get paid. By doing that, they removed the incentive for for the guys to write the sound tows and the number of impounds plummeted immediately. Btw, with the city in possession of their wheels and the bangers unable to afford as many guns because they were paying the city to recover their cars, there were a lot fewer drive-by shootings back then.
What do you suppose would happen if a copper was able to get a $1 service fee for each parker written? But the Mayor wants it all for himself. If he would learn to share a little bit, the revenue stream would have began to flow long ago.
The police dog, "Bear", that went missing a month ago for several days, is MISSING again, according to Chicago Breaking News. What's up with that?
Relax.....Not a chance of this happenning.
Time to revamp this entire system... But not too sure about this... I heard from a very reliable source that FOP is considering giving up seniority rights to a more "fair" efficiency system... Hence the trial and error we have been hearing so much about with this green/yellow/red grading system... Apparently JFed thinks that there is a way to "reward" those who work in the now, and a way to SCREW those who have worked for the past 25 years and are taking it a bit easy on their way out... So get ready for a bomb shell... get ready to work all the way through 29 and a day! If FOP signs off on this, and it looks like it will be in exchange for insurance at 55 rather than 60 something... apples for apples... so for us guys who did our time and are lettin the hairgels carry this department looks like the free ride is over... They are working out details buut seems like this will effect days off, furloughs, watch assignments, details, unit assignments, secondary employment, etc etc... And it all boils down to revenue... who makes the most for the city... so get ready boys and girls.... men and women... this effects us all and is not good... seniority rights are going to the wayside... this new efficiency system Jody and the brain trust have invented is more than you can imagine! It is the new way of the CPD... You want to work days? Write movers... You want to work the airport? More parkers... you want 13B furlough? More curfews.. 7B furlough? Well that means more arrests... Front office work? More hot cars... Review officer? More guns... you get it... I get it... this truly is a new CPD Wanted to piss off da Mayor? Be careful what you... WE ask for, we may get it and it appears we have... good day to be a overzealous hairgel I guess... bad day to be 25 years on lookin to relax... its a different time...
7/12/2009 12:55:00 AM
"Time to revamp this entire system . . . get ready to work all the way through 29 and a day!"
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What is this thing you call work?
Seriously, all you have to do is SHOW UP.
Write a mover and parker a day.
Handle you're radio assignments and come up clear in a reasonable time. I don't bust my ass for nothing chasing the moronic dopeman. As a matter of fact unless they jump in the back of the car - no one gets locked up.
And they have the balls to come to our roll calls and ask why morale is dead.
Hey I am a patrol Lt. Is this true? What other info does anyone have? Does the Lt. association know about this? When is the law suit? where do I sign up? for the Law suit that is because I did not get an packet, I am a patrol Lt. always will be because I made it on my own and the powers that be don't like that. This is the highest spot you can get on your own merit alone kids and if you don't have any clout and don't want to kiss an Aldercreatures ass or any other such power broker, that's where you will stay until 20 and a day. Hey that rhymes.
Stop whining you candy ass, be grateful you got that. The majority of us will never see Det. or Sgt.
You mean the job is still not legit?
old retired guy
OT: 007 ranger Mike Russow is scheduled to make his UFC debut in UFC 102 aug 29th in Portland, Or.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
well then, what is the criteria for applying for commander? if keating is rank of sgt and assigned to exempt, then why cant i apply? i will call personnel monday and let you know what they tell me.
7/12/2009 12:08:00 AM
EVERYONE of the rank of Sgt or above MUST be able to apply if they use an application process (although I can't for the life of me figure what nitwit thought of this)because there are currently Sergeants serving as Command staff. Mike Cronin was a PATROLMAN
The Superintendents Policy Group must have a subcommittee in charge of Worm Can Opening.
The test doesn't mean anything if no one gets promoted off it.
Why would anyone waste a moment of their time to even complete such a horseshit packet and submit it to people who obviously don't have a clue as to what leadership is?
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For a $35,000 per year pay increase.
That's why.
Time to revamp this entire system... But not too sure about this... I heard from a very reliable source that FOP is considering giving up seniority rights to a more "fair" efficiency system...
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all i can say is BULLSHIT. the sky is falling the sky is falling...
Great, the Detective and Sgt. lists stay up, so we get the lowest candidates on the lists to fill vacancies instead of the best, highest scoring, sharpest knives in the drawer. That, and the Merit-clout-orious promotions from Daley , the Alder-Stooges, and ruffus Reverends should keep CPD leadership and competence at an all time low for another 5 to 10 years.
To, UN OH Said. What ever that means???
Put down your drink and get your self into a Program. Your drink is destroying your walnut sized brain.
Not even a kid still in the training academy would believe that BULLSHIT!!!
Get some time on the JOB and you too will have some seniority someday.
When are you going the figure out that this City, the Dept and all the Liberal Cocksuckers running this city don't want anyone to do a damm thing! well, except write movers and parkers for the revenue.
Obviously another Obama fan!
Who cares about a commanders packet. I have 20 years and I am 40 out on the lieutenants exam. I'm just glad the city doesn't have any money for a new test. Give me my bars and banish me to a district for the rest of my years. I just want to be left alone.
Thank god Ginger made Ruthie a commander beore this App came out.
cooter for commander
cooter came up with the billboards .looks like the fop took another great idea from cooter.and why is then fop sending 60 boytoys to FL on our dime Ummmmmmmmm.
I got your package right here!
Dude where's my dog...AGAIN?
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/bear.police.dog.2.1082499.html
OT--Yes, "Bear" has escaped the friendly confines of his Mt. Greenwood kennel. My best guess is, this time, Ofcr. King is gonna have to face the music on this incident. Who knows? Maybe we'll see "Bear" holding King on a leash in the near future.
HOW MUCH WILL THE REWARD FOR NEGLIGENCE BE THIS TIME AROUND?
WTF? Bear is missing again. Come home Bear.
Can't wait to get my Caprice back so I can do some more shopping on the cock, er clock (Sorry about that, Phil). Those folks at 400 E. Lower Wacker are SO nice when you yell at 'em.
Screw meritorious promotions, they are a joke. Likewise, the tests are fixed. The oral interviews and efficiency ratings are devices to let the politicans promote who they want.
So, what can be done? Nothing. Live with it or get another gig, which may well be worse than what you've got. Or get a real union that isn't in bed with the bosses.
During the Civil War, Union troops elected their officers and non coms. Not a bad idea for the CPD, actually.
Who knows better than than the guys in a district who the phonies and wothless clout babies are? Who knows better when a stack of Department Commendations is complete bullshit than the guy who rode with the recipient?
How many bosses on the CPD would be low level Park District employees if the troops had a say
in the matter? Forget about a few extra bucks in you check or another day off. Get a real union and a say in how promotions are made, and both you and the poor saps who live in the city will be a lot better off.
They've only made 110 sgts off the list so far!!! That's it!
TOT: So did anyone else here that R.K. lost his K9 AGAIN??????? WTF???? You would think that him loosing the damn dog the first time he would have improved the conditions in his yard so the dog didn't get away, but no. I suppose being a fat lazy POS who can't loose his spot, he's not modivated to fix the problem. I did hear they pulled a CR on him, shouldn't that have been done the 1st time? If I loose my star (a little metal object) I get a day. What do you get for loosing a dog???? TWICE in 6 months?????? UNBELIVEABLE!
You can pick up your Commander applications at your alderman's office. I wonder where Daley's TWO Commander valets pick up their's? Probably in Daley's boxers after they performed.
Guys, they have not even gotten to 100 on the Sgts list and 6,000 of you took it. The LT test is at 28 over all and 2,000 took this test.
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Welcome to the world of "Pulling numbers out of my Ass!"
FACT: The number of people who passed Part One of the Sergeant's test was 4,500.
FACT: The highest number of Sergeants even on the job in the past 10 years was 1,205 and that was three years ago. So 2,000 people taking the test is impossible. And with the degree requirement, it was only 900 that even tried to take it.
Try to exaggerate a little less and have some credibility.
Anonymous said...
Applications? I heard a recently promoted SGT (MERIT), did not take the sgt's test...
7/12/2009 04:34:00 AM
........that happened a few years ago with someone who was going to be merited dic and then they realized he didn't even take the test. Obviously not enough clout to pull that one.
PLEASE STOP the merit system...it does not work!
7/12/2009 09:57:00 AM
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Yeah, that was my class a couple of years ago. He was there for 2 days until someone realized he did not even take the test. He was from a unit though so back he went.
OT: That dog is missing AGAIN. What the fuck is wrong with his owner? I had dogs all my life and I never lost one. I mean, c'mon.
well then, what is the criteria for applying for commander? if keating is rank of sgt and assigned to exempt, then why cant i apply? i will call personnel monday and let you know what they tell me.
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ok stroke... well be anxiously waiting here to find out the results.. loser
Maybe they can promote Bear, the wayward German Shepherd.
If they can find him.
Lets be honest, an application for commander wouldn't be worth the paper it is written on. Starks couldn't fill out an application for security clearance and made it to first deputy hibbity jibbity without a college degree. Nothing matters.
At probation we have a system that seems to work pretty well for people who want to move up to a supervisory level.You take an exam which you can get a certain amount of points for, but then you also get so many points for seniority, an advanced degree and your performance appraisals.
I know many cops who are smart guys,been on the job 10 years or more, are hard workers , graduated from good colleges and are stuck at the bottom.If you had a system like ours I'm sure many would be lts or capts by now.I know 2 guys who both graduated from U of I at Champagne, have been on the force for years and I think one is still a patrol man and one's a sergeant.There seems to be a lot of great natural leaders who CPD is wasting.
How did T.P. make the policy group?
I hear the Area 2 LT., filled his out and will be making Commander.
I GOT 15YRS ON, CAN I APPLY? AND NO I'M NOT A HOUSE MOUSE!
Be careful what you... WE ask for, we may get it and it appears we have... good day to be a overzealous hairgel I guess... bad day to be 25 years on lookin to relax... its a different time...
7/12/2009 12:55:00 AM
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I thought that there where NO QUOTAS in the police department.
Promotional bullshit has been part and parcel of this job since I came on in 1985. People with no clout study like hell, pay for professional study groups, hope like hell they can get into one of the "privileged" study groups and then maybe have only a very slim chance of actually being promoted.
They are swimming upstream against a very swift current. The know nobody officer has the 30% merit fucks to contend with and then there are the "in the know" mother fuckers who get into one of the closed when they open study groups and then there are the top tier folks who get private consultation with the pricks who know what is on the test.
So overall maybe a no clout guy has perhaps a chance of getting one of the 30% of spots that might be legit and left over, if it is that high. Then he has to contend with the women who always did real good on tests, no good at police work but good at study and test taking.
Bullshit. Jody, take your horseshit promotions and shove them all as far as you can right up your ass.
I don't give a fuck. Soon I will be looking for my pension but before then I have three surgeries to take care of, I want to go out in good shape you know.
In the mean time I go to my jobs and little more. My heart has not been in this shit for a long time. I just don't care any more.
Only if someone is getting hurt or if a policeman calls for help do I bust ass, the rest of it is all bullshit, just like some old timer told me so long ago.
You young hot shots will see, just wait, you will understand one day.
Bear is missing again? Rick, Bear just isn't that into you.
OT: K9 Bear & his handler.....just a refection on their training & the administration running the K9 show....pure & simple.....what an embarrassment.
Must of lost mine in the mail.... Oh, that's right I worked my entire career in Patrol and passed the Sergeant and Lieutenant tests on my own. Go ahead and make some more Commanders from 35th. street, they are doing a real bang up job! The troops love 'em and they have so much knowledge to share!
80% of exempts are lietenants
several are sgt's ,po's or civilians and all captains are meritorious political appointees
no new test for lieutenants because they will be made the same as captains and commanders
good luck brylcreme kids
Anonymous said...
TOT: So did anyone else here that R.K. lost his K9 AGAIN??????? WTF???? You would think that him loosing the damn dog the first time he would have improved the conditions in his yard so the dog didn't get away, but no. I suppose being a fat lazy POS who can't loose his spot, he's not modivated to fix the problem. I did hear they pulled a CR on him, shouldn't that have been done the 1st time? If I loose my star (a little metal object) I get a day. What do you get for loosing a dog???? TWICE in 6 months?????? UNBELIVEABLE!
7/12/2009 03:49:00 PM
Actually this is the 3rd time for this meat stick. Previous dog ran once, too. Easy way to fix this is going back to 9161.
Great, the Detective and Sgt. lists stay up, so we get the lowest candidates on the lists to fill vacancies instead of the best, highest scoring, sharpest knives in the drawer. That, and the Merit-clout-orious promotions from Daley , the Alder-Stooges, and ruffus Reverends should keep CPD leadership and competence at an all time low for another 5 to 10 years.
Well you have a partial point, but the problem is that they've hardly taken anyone off of either list so to say that you're getting the lowest candidates on the list is way off. I don't think they've even taken 100 sergeants off this list and they've only taken about 200-240 off the detective list. The last couple of detective lists took around 500 off the lists and that's not counting meritorious, that's off the actually list. So you don't have to worry about low end candidates. At the rate this department is promoting they can use these lists for another 5 years at least.
Anonymous said...
TOT: So did anyone else here that R.K. lost his K9 AGAIN??????? WTF???? You would think that him loosing the damn dog the first time he would have improved the conditions in his yard so the dog didn't get away, but no. I suppose being a fat lazy POS who can't loose his spot, he's not modivated to fix the problem. I did hear they pulled a CR on him, shouldn't that have been done the 1st time? If I loose my star (a little metal object) I get a day. What do you get for loosing a dog???? TWICE in 6 months?????? UNBELIVEABLE!
7/12/2009 03:49:00 PM
Time to pull the recruits out of the acdemy to look for the dog again. maybe the mobile strike force, world strike force and global strike force can help in the search.
.. and in the mean time Rome is burning.
What do you suppose would happen if a copper was able to get a $1 service fee for each parker written? But the Mayor wants it all for himself. If he would learn to share a little bit, the revenue stream would have began to flow long ago.
So much stupidity there...how do you even comment
They have not made a Detectives class since 2007.
'Did they tell you there is an application packet for Deputy Chief recently? Yes and the qualifications for it eerily seemed tailored to two current commanders. If one of them gets it that'll be interesting.'
Yes. The rumor is that WEISel wants Tobias for the job, but Matt enjoys being in hiding at Headquarters, out of sight, and, recently, off the blog as well.
But the word is that Cmdr ChubbyBear Georges will likely get the spot. It's all legit, folks...really it is. Just ask Jody.
Friends AGAINST John garrido have raised $10,745.00 to date. Please send your contribution and make sure this idiot goes away.
I think Lt. M. Harmon from 7 is a part of the policy group.
Is Carter gone? If he is I'll start working again in 004. I'm still there just don't work for him.
Great, the Detective and Sgt. lists stay up, so we get the lowest candidates on the lists to fill vacancies instead of the best, highest scoring, sharpest knives in the drawer. That, and the Merit-clout-orious promotions from Daley , the Alder-Stooges, and ruffus Reverends should keep CPD leadership and competence at an all time low for another 5 to 10 years.
7/12/2009 02:11:00 PM
THEY HAVENT TAKEN MANY FORM THE DECT LIST ,MORON
Anonymous said...
Guys, they have not even gotten to 100 on the Sgts list and 6,000 of you took it. The LT test is at 28 over all and 2,000 took this test.
There were only 800 with enough time to take it, and there are only 1300 Sgts spots to begin with. Try getting your facts right before you run your mouth.
Time to revamp this entire system... But not too sure about this... I heard from a very reliable source that FOP is considering giving up seniority rights to a more "fair" efficiency system...
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all i can say is BULLSHIT. the sky is falling the sky is falling...
WHY WOULD WE HAVE TO GIVE UP ANYTHING TO GET INS AT 55? THE CITY WILL SAVE MILLIONS ON THAT ALONE.
Kind of like one that I know who made merit sgt and doesnt have a college degree...things always get overlooked for the chosen ones on cpd...
OT: 007 ranger Mike Russow is scheduled to make his UFC debut in UFC 102 aug 29th in Portland, Or.
Good Luck Mike, now the rest of you guys, get over the Ranger shit!!!
hey, the job is on the legit, no?....promotions, assignments, the commanders are all folks who are the best and brightest, no?...so we should go out and really work hard, no?...
Teletype: Dateline Chicago, there will be no applications for Command spots. Duh!!!!!
PLEASE STOP the merit system...it does not work!
7/12/2009 09:57:00 AM
Ahem... you mean it does not work FOR YOU. It's working just fine for the Stuttering Prick and his peeples and the rest of the Daley Crime Family, thank you!
masters - masters - masters
Look at the products of meritorious captain promotions:
Bubble head - aka sticky fingers.
need I say more!
Its all a matter of suction.
Bear gone again, not a suprise, RK is a goof! Can't blame thunder and lightning this time, you goof!
Anonymous said...
well then, what is the criteria for applying for commander? if keating is rank of sgt and assigned to exempt, then why cant i apply? i will call personnel monday and let you know what they tell me.
7/12/2009 12:08:00 AM
What about being 1 of 2 commanders on shortshanks detail making over $160,000 each plus cars and a driver? How about the D-3 (Sgts pay plus all the overtime) All the guys on shortshanks detail, plus all 7 of eddie burkes guys make! What about burkes 2 on 3 off schedule? or shortshanks 1 on 1 off schedule? What do we have to do? Look at title code 9160 security specialist a who's who of clout!
"... Mike Cronin was a PATROLMAN ..."
7/12/2009 01:15:00 PM
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
Leave RK alone. I know he loves and cares alot for that dog. The dog must be on the scent or something.
Do the applications have to be typed? I once pulled a guy over and said meow 37 times.
o.t.
I hear Bear escaped again? Is this K9 that eager to go out and work?
7/12/2009 05:42:00 AM
I think Bear knows something we don't know "GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN".
Will people please knock off the rat attacks on this site. Saying that a "cop in 022" is doing this or that is one thing but listing initials could really cause a brother/sister some problems and don't kid yourself...that makes you as bad as any dog on the street filing a CR or a lawsuit. It mostly just makes you sound like a jealous asshole anyway.
Kind of like one that I know who made merit sgt and doesnt have a college degree...things always get overlooked for the chosen ones on cpd...
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You don't need a degree for Sergeant, just two years college. Degree requirements start at Lieutenant you nimrod.
Why would anyone waste a moment of their time to even complete such a horseshit packet and submit it to people who obviously don't have a clue as to what leadership is?
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For a $35,000 per year pay increase.
That's why.
7/12/2009 01:28:00 PM
Trouble is that is the ONLY reason anyone completes the packet. If you take money out of the picture, why would you take any promotion
on this job?
Anonymous said...
They've only made 110 sgts off the list so far!!! That's it!
7/12/2009 03:36:00 PM
Isn't that too many. How many micromanaging merits do you want? We barely made that many PPOS lol. Sgt of what? Blaaaaaaaaaah hahahaha
What the hell is the policy group and what are their names?
This with out a doubt has to be a joke! No one would believe this.
Heard changes this week?
Anonymous said...
"... Mike Cronin was a PATROLMAN ..."
7/12/2009 01:15:00 PM
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
Well, there you have it. The first P.O. to be promoted from patrolmen to exempt because of his hard work alone. Funny though it was in his last few years(can you say pension) and by his friend Sup. Cline. But I'm sure his promotion was just from his hard work. Didn't Huberman work hard too?
Anonymous said...
Hey I am a patrol Lt. Is this true? What other info does anyone have? Does the Lt. association know about this? When is the law suit? where do I sign up? for the Law suit that is because I did not get an packet, I am a patrol Lt. always will be because I made it on my own and the powers that be don't like that. This is the highest spot you can get on your own merit alone kids and if you don't have any clout and don't want to kiss an Aldercreatures ass or any other such power broker, that's where you will stay until 20 and a day. Hey that rhymes.
Stop whining you candy ass, be grateful you got that. The majority of us will never see Det. or Sgt.
7/12/2009 01:03:00 PM
Candy ass, your time due is denied looser. Can't you tell when someone is joking. I am happy as shit I am a Lt. all I ever wanted, best job in this dept next to a Det. and I was one of those also. Boy I bet that makes you pissed.
Now that Lieutenant Cutie Pie is running news affairs she is more than qualified for Commander. Just make it 019 or 020 so she isn't overwhelmed before the next move.
REPLY TO: is carter gone? i'll start working again.*****carter... Ha. i believe you meant1st and 2nd watch lts.
good day to be a overzealous hairgel I guess... bad day to be 25 years on lookin to relax..."
Yeah & your Daddy was a ball of fire @ age 60 the same as he was when he was 21. GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Seniority is the Hallmark of collective bargaining & is FAIR& EQUITABLE. It all about who you're connected to, be it juice or your lips. Some of the laziest pieces of shit on this job don't even have a stripe on their sleeve.
7/12/2009 09:00:00 AM
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Thats because of dogs like you who taught them when they were PPO's how to be a dog. Just keep telling the PPO's, "You're just gonna get sued and fired if you try to do proactive police work".
I really hope that spots that were in the past based on seniority will now be based on performance. I can't wait to see your dog-ass faces in roll call.
Gggggggggggrrrrrrrrrrrr. Woof Woof!
hear Bear escaped again? Is this K9 that eager to go out and work?
just can't stand his handler, wants a new contract
Hey fuckface, I work in 007 but I do not consider myself a ranger nor do I call myself one. You still can go fuck yourself.
Anonymous said...
I think Lt. M. Harmon from 7 is a part of the policy group.
7/12/2009 08:33:00 PM
he's been in A/1 for a while
OT: 007 ranger Mike Russow is scheduled to make his UFC debut in UFC 102 aug 29th in Portland, Or.
Mike is in TRU
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"... Mike Cronin was a PATROLMAN ..."
7/12/2009 01:15:00 PM
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
Dedicated yes, but an ignorant, grumpy, self serving, asshole!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
cooter for commander
7/12/2009 02:53:00 PM
Of what? Running his mouth? Back stabbing his friends? His partners?
The promotion of cronin to commander and then to deputy chief were two of he worst moves ever by cline. Cronin is not a leader. He had no management skills and he made decisions based his suppposed 'knowledge' of the streets. Please do not bring up his name again and someone please tell the "gangland" producers that he was under-qualified as a exempt member and his supervisory skills of conducting investigations into gangs was dismal at best.
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
whatever... he still had no business being anything other than what he was, a gang specialist, not a commander or Dep. Chief...
Kind of like one that I know who made merit sgt and doesnt have a college degree...things always get overlooked for the chosen ones on cpd...
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You don't need a degree for Sergeant, just two years college. Degree requirements start at Lieutenant you nimrod.
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you did at the time,name caller.
Great, the Detective and Sgt. lists stay up, so we get the lowest candidates on the lists to fill vacancies instead of the best, highest scoring, sharpest knives in the drawer.
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Hey they haven't even gotten to 300 on the dicks list.. Haven't made many dicks since the test.
and. . . . . you must've been the lucky winner
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kind of like one that I know who made merit sgt and doesnt have a college degree...things always get overlooked for the chosen ones on cpd...
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You don't need a degree for Sergeant, just two years college. Degree requirements start at Lieutenant you nimrod.
7/12/2009 11:53:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Leave RK alone. I know he loves and cares alot for that dog. The dog must be on the scent or something.
7/12/2009 11:10:00 PM
Maybe he went after those escapees from Indiana.
Anonymous said...
So much for all those promises Daley made on every major news outlet that a test would be given every three years! Lies, lies and more lies.
Just tell the people what they want to hear. They won't remember in a month or two, anyway.
7/12/2009 12:18:00 AM
That's all that ever comes out of Daley's mouth, LIES. His lips move, that's how you can tell.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
TOT: So did anyone else here that R.K. lost his K9 AGAIN??????? WTF???? You would think that him loosing the damn dog the first time he would have improved the conditions in his yard so the dog didn't get away, but no. I suppose being a fat lazy POS who can't loose his spot, he's not modivated to fix the problem. I did hear they pulled a CR on him, shouldn't that have been done the 1st time? If I loose my star (a little metal object) I get a day. What do you get for loosing a dog???? TWICE in 6 months?????? UNBELIVEABLE!
7/12/2009 03:49:00 PM
Actually this is the 3rd time for this meat stick. Previous dog ran once, too. Easy way to fix this is going back to 9161.
7/12/2009 06:19:00 PM
Jeez, if the dog jumps over the 5 foot fence, you make the fence 6 or 7 feet, or completely enclose the dog run. How hard is that? Hopefully the dog will be found safely. Didn't Bear have the canine GPS device sewn to his ass?
Everything else has GPS, why not the dogs? That is, everything except the Mayor's car. No tracking that guy, no paper trail of where he goes.
WTH? Some whiner wants Carter replaced because he is actually making some slackers on 3rd or 1st watches go out and remove curfew violators from the streets of 004? Did it ever occur to you whiners there that maybe if you did a better job of getting your most likely shooting victims and offenders off the streets at night, your workload might just actually DECREASE on those two watches in that Godforsaken place? And that's a reason to come on here and whine about the guy? You slackers crack me up. If you're so miserable there, bid out. Retire. Or just quit.
Bitches.
7/12/2009 09:21:00 AM
Are you his Girlfriend? Give me a break you Bitch, if you can do, and know so fucking much why dont you carry the watch with your activity if not then FUCK YOU
fuck you leave RK alone! There are many cops that would love to get a canine but we all know how that works in this department- 3 times- how can you defend this guy
Bear emailed me the othe day told me he wouldnt not work without a contract and is living nicely in a undisclosed suburb
"... Mike Cronin was a PATROLMAN ..."
lived in the past he did not do anything special just another hooked up blueshirt
Bear is missing again? Rick, Bear just isn't that into you.
TOP TEN BEST POSTS EVER
What's with the "commonder." Did they actually have that mis-spelled on the app?
---not a cop
Application:1 large brown envelope.
7/12/2009 09:29:00 AM
That's funny. Sad, but funny.
---not a cop
This pooch is pretty smart.He knows this department has turned to shit and he keeps trying to get out.
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You are talking about Mike "C.V.L." Cronin? He was self serving, egotistical, didn't know shit, and there was'nt a camera he didn't like. Ask carol marin.
Anonymous said...
Leave RK alone. I know he loves and cares alot for that dog. The dog must be on the scent or something.
7/12/2009 11:10:00 PM
Then he should do his job and care for the dog. Other handlers do not have this problem? Every time the dog escapes, extensive manpower is used to find this dog.
07/12/2009 10:38:00 pm
You may have been a pretty good cop mike but your managerial skills SUCKED. That's what happens when you go from glorified patrolman(gcs) to exempt.You never learned how to lead.
GFY!
HOPEFULLY COMMANDER CHUBBY BEAR GEORGAS GETS PROMOTED TO SOMETHING AND GETS THE FUCK OUT OF 18 DISTRICT, USED TO BE GREAT PLACE TO WORK NOW, NOT SO MUCH. GOOD BYE.
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
SIGNED CRONINS BIGGEST FAN&CHEERLEADER, MIKE CRONIN
"They are working out details buut seems like this will effect days off, furloughs, watch assignments, details, unit assignments, secondary employment, etc etc... And it all boils down to revenue... "
You're making stuff up to frighten the young guys- no way would the FOP agree to this and the City doesn't hve the management to manage that kind of detailed surveillence of the p.o. performance- not the mention no budget for the lawsuits which will inevitably happen.
Besides- if the FOP agreeed to this is certainly lead to their decertification and another "Union" would move in-if for no other eason than that, they won't agree to it.
"Kind of like one that I know who made merit sgt and doesnt have a college degree...things always get overlooked for the chosen ones on cpd"
Hey Paranoidboy- read the order- Sgts only need 60 hours college credit- not even an associates degree- just a bulk 60 hours!
FROM BLOG 501:
Promotional Exams
Jul 09, 2009 by SUPERINTENDENT
Traditionally, the goal was to hold promotional examinations every three years for police and fire positions. CPD has been more apt at meeting this goal than CFD. The career service promotional exams (sergeant and lieutenant) are budgeted through DHR, not CPD (per ordinance/Personnel Rules).
As a result, although CPD may request that a new exam be developed, the final decision lies with DHR and OBM as to when the exam is actually held. It takes about 9 months to develop each promotional examination. CPD has, in fact, asked DHR to include sergeant and lieutenant examination development and administration in the 2010 budget.
It is unlikely that examinations will be offered more frequently than every three years; test development for each examination is roughly $300,000. Test administration is even more expensive. Also, based on the fact that OBM delayed new entry exams in 2007, 2008 and 2009, it is possible that we will not meet the three year goal going forward.
So if they're developing a new lt exam after hiring only 40 people off the 2006 exam- the public really needs to find our where their money is going! Hey newspaper reporters-anyone have the guts to follow this thread?
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are
Risley communicates from the dead.
Anonymous said...
well then, what is the criteria for applying for commander? if keating is rank of sgt and assigned to exempt, then why cant i apply? i will call personnel monday and let you know what they tell me.
7/12/2009 12:08:00 AM
What about being 1 of 2 commanders on shortshanks detail making over $160,000 each plus cars and a driver? How about the D-3 (Sgts pay plus all the overtime) All the guys on shortshanks detail, plus all 7 of eddie burkes guys make! What about burkes 2 on 3 off schedule? or shortshanks 1 on 1 off schedule? What do we have to do? Look at title code 9160 security specialist a who's who of clout!
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"... Mike Cronin was a PATROLMAN ..."
7/12/2009 01:15:00 PM
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
I agree. Never worked with the man, but the high ranking players in my dist (far from Homan) knew who he was... I have NO problem with a working policeman like that making merit promotion. That is how it is SUPPOSED to be... based on good work and intangible qualities... Cline got that one right, so use it a positive example... Im sure that there are a lot of cronins out there, so lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater...
and what would he need to oversee a test for? He's got nothing to do with anything. He might as well be the Supt of the Riverdale PD. Burke's cleaning lady has more input on day to day CPD Operations than Weis does.
7/12/2009 01:37:00 AM
The reverands sure the hell do!
OT: 007 ranger Mike Russow is scheduled to make his UFC debut in UFC 102 aug 29th in Portland, Or.
Good Luck Mike, now the rest of you guys, get over the Ranger shit!!!
7/12/2009 10:11:00 PM
Good Luck Mike...Current TRU Ranger
Right now we have a Sgt. who is a Dep. Chief. we have had patrol men serving as commanders and have a chief of staff (CHIEF)with no police experience. I would think that any restriction on the rank you have to be to be considered for promotion would lead to a law suit if any one working for the CPD is excluded from applying.
7/12/2009 10:45:00 AM
A good percentage of our exempt ranks are merit at least he made Sgt. legit and was a worker in 10. You cannot say that about a very large percentage of these bosses that they were ever workers.
Lets be honest, an application for commander wouldn't be worth the paper it is written on. Starks couldn't fill out an application for security clearance and made it to first deputy hibbity jibbity without a college degree. Nothing matters.
7/12/2009 04:26:00 PM
Even if he did receive a meritourous college degree which unfortunately they have become. The Black Reverands still would have made him 1st Deputy.
Re: Mike Cronin being a commander and being a patrolman/gs/whatever..are you saying you have to be promoted several times to supervise or run a unit/div/district? Do you automatically gain experience, intelligence, and ability by attending promotional classes? If you aint got it as a patrolman, gs, dick, etc..you aint gonna get it by promotions...
Come on guys and girls wise up. The use of senority as we now know it will never be given up by FOP in lieu of a bull shit efficency system. Do you think that J-Fucks policy group realizes the power of this blog to get things accomplished. THey are throwing shit at the wall to get the men and women in the field confused, and disoriented and offf focus. Its dis-information campaign oldest trick in the book. Right out of the Art of War book. Dont loose focus, continue to do nothing or little, demand 2 man cars on 1st and 3rd watches, dont waive that right. Use all the general & special orders and other directives as written. Dont take shortcuts to get the job done and hurry to the next bull shit call. Use malicious compoliance techniques. Refuse to use unsafe vehicles without being ordered to do so. Missing Tender age person, call a plan, begin a canvass hold down 3 beat cars looking for pookie who is at the store getting flamin cheetos and a grape pop. Take in every TVB you can find if he can make bond let him make some phone calls before you get that I- bond written, Stop for every hand waver, hold yourself down for 2 hours on foot patrol in large parks. Write every DUI you can find, encourage them to take a blood draw, transport that blood or urine as required. Get a car wash every day, go for gas at the beginning and end of the tour. TTake your time writing the paper on jobs and arrest reports, you want to get every word spelled right and proper grammar. See some suspicious gang activity better go into the station and leave an information report. MAybe your CI,s if you have some will give you some confidential information on gamg activity and you can do follow ups with paper notifications . It goes on and on the way you can use the rules against them to grind the machine to a halt. Make sure you bring all those curfews home and get a responsible adult to sigh for them. WHile you are at it write all the ANOVS you can but be sure to take yourself out of service so you dont hurry through it and make a mistake, we wouldnt want it thrown out because of a mistake. Its called malicious compliance follow every rule, general and special order and directive to the late possible degree I guarantee you to bring the machine to a halt with No Cars RAPS constantly and you are only doing your job. OH yeah on those disturbance with teens, men selling drug calls on the corners, hold yourseld down at that corner doing an investigation, just pull over and stop there, dont leave the call you could get written up for that but do a complete investigation, talk to anyone on that corner, make out contact cards on them, each one of those calls should be good for about 1 hour each. Follow the rules after all they wrote tham thay must want them followed.
How about posting the actual application so we know what kind of "experience" we need to accumulate to be Commander?
Anonymous said...
Hey I am a patrol Lt. Is this true? What other info does anyone have? Does the Lt. association know about this? When is the law suit? where do I sign up? for the Law suit that is because I did not get an packet, I am a patrol Lt. always will be because I made it on my own and the powers that be don't like that. This is the highest spot you can get on your own merit alone kids and if you don't have any clout and don't want to kiss an Aldercreatures ass or any other such power broker, that's where you will stay until 20 and a day. Hey that rhymes.
Stop whining you candy ass, be grateful you got that. The majority of us will never see Det. or Sgt.
7/12/2009 01:03:00 PM
Candy ass, your time due is denied looser. Can't you tell when someone is joking. I am happy as shit I am a Lt. all I ever wanted, best job in this dept next to a Det. and I was one of those also. Boy I bet that makes you pissed.
Hey Lou, Get fucked.
To all those people out there saying Cronin was so great. Name one case he did from start to finish. One wire he wrote. Just one.
You can't cause he didn't. Knowing a bunch of names does not make you a great policeman, neither does dude knowing your name.
He was an ignorant self serving prick, who the gang banger laughed at.
A good percentage of our exempt ranks are merit at least he made Sgt. legit and was a worker in 10. You cannot say that about a very large percentage of these bosses that they were ever workers.
Signed Richie "d" from bridgeport
I agree. Never worked with the man, but the high ranking players in my dist (far from Homan) knew who he was... I have NO problem with a working policeman like that making merit promotion. That is how it is SUPPOSED to be... based on good work and intangible qualities... Cline got that one right, so use it a positive example... Im sure that there are a lot of cronins out there, so lets not throw the baby out with the bathwater...
Yeah they all knew who he was but try and find anyone he ever locked up. Oh thats right no one. Ask anyone from the old gangs. He went out there and did 5 D/C's a night and went home. Hes a legend in his own mind and apparently yours too now.
Cronin--Suckmydickinin!!
Gang expertise because he saw the movie "Colors" once.
And this 'policy group'; thats what happens when CSI and shit aren't on pay TV.
In response to the 10:45AM post:
You said it right brother. What our leadership doesn't see is that officers do all of the things you stated in your post WHILE taking care of their other assignments. But the leadership is so intent to assume that officers do nothing just because they grade us on revenue. They come up with this system of grading our performance which in my opinion does not count all the real services officers do on a daily basis.
Its wrong. Period.
We need more commanders like we need, cardboard body armor,.....no wait, card board body armor would be worth more than an exempt.
GCG
To the guy spouting how seniority is out the window:
The FOP doesn't have the authority to allow the city to do away with seniority, pal.
It's a contractual issue, and no one is gonna sign away their time in this shithole for someone with lesser time than them, beit for special employment, furlos or anything else.
Go peddle your crap somewhere else because it'll never happen here or in any other union job in this city that still HAS seniority rights.
For a $35,000 per year pay increase.
That's why.
7/12/2009 01:28:00 PM
Trouble is that is the ONLY reason anyone completes the packet. If you take money out of the picture, why would you take any promotion
on this job?
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And after you take 22 days pay off the top, it is a lot less!
How about started a list of Lt's who should not be considered and a list who should....or is that too much for 35th st. to handle.
"you did at the time,name caller.
7/13/2009 03:31:00 AM"
You are full of shit- as of today - the only rank that is testable that required a bachelor's degree ever in the entire history of the Chicago Police department is lieutenant.
Maybe your lack of reading comprehension is really why you can't make sergeant?
Re: Croin
He was an ignorant self serving prick, who the gang banger laughed at
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Since the day's with Patrolman Joe in the 013th. Why ANYONE thought he was the real police is beyond being real. He threw many good copper' under the bus, ET; friends from the old days when Cline made him a Cmdr.
He pinched drunks on a corner who could not walk.
Croin you are not missed, so go and try and spend all the $$$ you have and never spent on a decent gun or a pair of new blue jeans.
Anonymous said...
To the guy spouting how seniority is out the window:
The FOP doesn't have the authority to allow the city to do away with seniority, pal.
It's a contractual issue, and no one is gonna sign away their time in this shithole for someone with lesser time than them, beit for special employment, furlos or anything else.
Go peddle your crap somewhere else because it'll never happen here or in any other union job in this city that still HAS seniority rights.
7/13/2009 03:22:00 PM
There are numerous white shirts who despise senority. They want the right to make assignments based on favoritism. I work in a unit where management completly admitted, if you do not like it then leave. But when senority benefits them then they cry. Senority was won through many years of fighting. Do not take it for granted.
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
Thank you mike for your opinion of yourself. Pure clout. If he was that smart why couldn't he earn a promotion on his own????
To all those people out there saying Cronin was so great. Name one case he did from start to finish. One wire he wrote. Just one.
You can't cause he didn't. Knowing a bunch of names does not make you a great policeman, neither does dude knowing your name.
He was an ignorant self serving prick, who the gang banger laughed at.
7/13/2009 12:20:00 PM
Amen, brother, Amen! "everyone" kenw him, all the shiheads on the west side kept droppin' his name too see if they could get out of being arrested! I'd tell them; "If you know him sooo well, call him, he MIGHT just bond you out!" They STFU, Real quick!
Anonymous said...
How did T.P. make the policy group?
7/12/2009 04:39:00 PM
Sucking ass.
Yeah they all knew who he was but try and find anyone he ever locked up. Oh thats right no one. Ask anyone from the old gangs. He went out there and did 5 D/C's a night and went home. Hes a legend in his own mind and apparently yours too now.
7/13/2009 01:18:00 PM
Willie Loyd for UUW on Jackson Blvd. in 011.
Who have you locked up?
I wish Saddia would stop posting over the top praisings of her husband every time he gets justly sacked on the blog. He has never done any of the jobs in a district that he is now trying to tell others how to do. The man is an incompetent, useless appointee, with no people skills.
A good percentage of our exempt ranks are merit at least he made Sgt. legit and was a worker in 10. You cannot say that about a very large percentage of these bosses that they were ever workers.
7/13/2009 10:19:00 AM
You think thats why he got the exempt, because somebody recalled that he was a worker in 10 District twenty years ago? You think that it had nothing to do with him being the mayor's bodyguard and trusted a-hole for the remaining twenty years?
All this is just smoke and mirrors! The majority will never rise about PO! Who gives a shit! Just another diversion from reality and the real problems in the Dept! If you take this job serious you will end up in a rubber room! Without clout you will never make rank! Know this and you will enjoy the rest of your career!
Now that Aide de Camp Peter J. Koconis is up j-fed's ass, might he become a commander? Just in time to replace Sobczyk? Just wonderin. You can check out the blurb in the latest FOP newsletter.
What about Eli from 010th dist. He apply again and go back up. I hear he was liked by J-fed, but he had too many people that did not like hime for being such a stand up guy.
There is no application for commander, however, there is an application for the FBI academy that is in the bulletin.
no, cooter didn't come up with the billboards. someone should superglue your stupid, whiny mouth shut. You haven't had an original thought or written an original line ever.
Cronin saw Colors more than once. We got detailed to that ridiculous movie for days. He probably saw it 93 times which would qualify anyone for Supt, mayor or even governor.
Check it out I think Koconis quit just like Ray Gawne. Tired of the bull shit!
Worked with Cronin in the old gang unit. He's main cheerleader at the time, Lt. EFB would make everyone else drop what they were doing to assist Cronin with his search warrants, because he was (in EFB's opinion) the best police officer in the unit. Negative everytime. Stevie Wonder could find dope on the west side, but Cronin's warrants would be negative. His partner, RD, went undercover and make some really good pinches, but he didn't seek the limelight, and Cronin was happy to take it for him. Ignorant, miserable prick, and the finest example of "tell a lie often enough" (Cronin's the best police officer on the west side) and it becomes the truth.
'He (Carter)has never done any of the jobs in a district that he is now trying to tell others how to do.'
Obviously, you don't know Eric Carter, or you're just one of the legions of cowardly haters who come here regularly to vent about people you would never have the guts to say anything to in their face. Carter has worked as a patrolman in Districts that I'm willing to bet you've never been assigned to. Get over it. He's in 004, and he's a huge improvement over his replacement. Yes, he's demanding a lot from people. Just like his bosses are demanding a hell of a lot from HIM. If you work in 004 and are miserable, bid out! Garcia Ridge, Beverly, or even boyztown could use a self starter such as yourself to defend the 'homeland.' And leave the wives off your personal attacks.
EFB another jerk who thought he was the greatest. Greatest jerk.
Kokonis turns 63 this year. Will probably get a great civilian spot.
What do you mean by this.....
Garcia Ridge, Beverly, or even boyztown could use a self starter such as yourself to defen the "homeland". And leave the wives off your personal attacks.
u expet saadia not to defend that pos she's married to? what do expect her to do? i agree he is a miserable bastard piece of shit but do blame her?/// other wives prob would do same thing//she know she has dumb ass hubby but oh well
In nearly 30 yrs on the CPD, I never saw another Police Officer with the talent, instincts, dedication and/or perseverance of one Mr. Mike Cronin... I'm just saying.
Just one man's opinion... I'm sure there are others.
7/12/2009 10:38:00 PM
Cronie might have known westside gang bangers, but he sure didn't know how to lead men.
He was/is the worst boss I ever had.
He was self serving and could barely get a sentence out.
He did not deserve to be Commander or Deputy.
He should have tested his way up the ladder. Why not test for Sgt., and get made meritoriously on the first class. Then he would have been able to gradually work his way, and learn how to motivate people.
He and Mike Marano stole the gold pension.
No wonder so many P,O,'s are tired of the BS that goes on.
name the commanders and captains that were not merit picks for sergeant and lieutenant
If Carter's so great why is 004 so messed up...that's right its not his problems or those cronies of his.
The CPD is always going to be the same no matter who is at top when will you understand that.
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