Manpower Shortage More Evident
South Chicago residents descended on a City Council committee today to complain about a slow police response to gun violence that has made them prisoners in their own homes.
The Police Committee took no action on the proposal by Ald. Sandi Jackson (7th) that would have mandated the temporary re-deployment of officers to her far South Side ward and other high-crime areas.
Chief of Patrol Eugene Williams responded to the barrage of complaints with the same claim Deputy Police Supt. Dan Dugan made to aldermen last spring: No police cars are available to respond when South Chicago residents call 911, in part, because they call for too many non-emergencies.
“We have to stop dispatching so many calls to police officers on the street. We are one of the few — probably the only major city — that responds 60-plus percent of the time when someone picks up the phone and says, ‘I want the police,’” Williams said.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:09 AM
96 Comments:
I sure notice when 433 is dispatched to South Chicago. They have no complaints, but we sure do.
Don't hire, offer early outs, and the rest of us are stuck with the shit.
Don't worry, though. J-Fed said on TV that we're better trained and can handle this better than cops from twenty years ago.
Does that make you feel better?
Hey EB the other day in zone 6 it was rocking and rolling, that was second watch. In the midst of person w/gun, shots fired and burglary in progress calls the dispatcher assigned this call to a beat car. Bt. XXXX make a notification, Juvenile court is requesting that you go to blank address and notify joe Blow citizen that his court date is tomorrow and he needs to appear. The bt. states why cant they make the notification and the dispatcher says because they called 911. Until bullshit calls like this stop citizens will have to wait for police response on a real emergency because city-wide the department is in a RAP.
Dep. E. Williams is right, it is the non-stop bullshit calls that eat up a large chunk of police manpower. A Big part of that problem is that all the knuckleheads that lie and call for made up bullshit don't get locked up by the CPD for making, or filing false Police Reports. They should be hauled in, given a court date, and slammed with a fine by Judges, and some jail time for repeat offenders. Nowhere in the Illinois State Statutes do I see that a false police Repport has to be transmitted on paper, it can be an oral report over the phone, or a direct lie to ana responding officer, later to be found to be a made up b.s. story, etc. I'm done giving any of the Big Cheeses with big salaries clues on how to curtail some of this bullshit, cause I should be making the big bucks, not some of them....
003 sux
Crump Hales get dumped yet?
Things are getting worse and not better. That says all that is needed to be said about the current management in place.
Wait I know what will work. How about another platoon in MSF and TRU. That will help.
016 district tac teams sent out to 015 and 016 left with only skeleton crew of a watch--- good idea-- send working police to district with no taxpayers and leave all the taxpayers in 016 to fend for themselves--- dispatcher puts a rap in and starts denying lunches because she has priority jobs with nobody to send--- 016 citizens--- arm yourselves and organize now--- after nov 1st when new insurance package takes effect, the shortage will be much worse... we have plenty of police to send to baby's mama's house when little boo won't eat his pork and beans but no police to patrol your area while these jagoffs are yanking the gutters off your garage and stealing the gps out of your car--- our newly minted president is quick to call peace officers stupid but doesn't have a word to say about the carnage that goes on daily in our ghetto communities--- canada looks more inviting every day----
So they take all the tact and gang guys from 017 and Area 5 and put us in 015 for the night...and what happens? Chalkie vists the fighting 017...two shot..one be dead!
Does it really matter that we are down in the number of coppers we have to patrol the streets? Fuck it! My brothers, it's not us that are killing each other, it's them.Let them kill each other!It doesn't reflect negatively on us. We aren't the policy makers.Let the boddies hit the floor!Let us go home at the end of the day.It's a job.It's a job most of us worked our asses off for, but it's a job.We aren't Superman, we aren't God.We have families that we actually care about.We did what we were supposed to do (get an education, get a job).They want to "do more with less". Good for the policy makers.They have provided no incentive to us.They took away damn near every incentive we had to police the streets (no court at 400 w. superior, no prostutition court, no gun & go, cameras, microphones).There is NO consistency in discipline for officers (i.e.: 45-60 days for failing to mention on a case report that the offender "may" have been an off-duty police officer.)We are in a constant back-log.SO WHAT!Why do we care?The Sgt's and Lt's don't care!RELAX!The rules, Reg's, and G.O.'s are fairly clear (even if your merit promoted Sgt. doesn't know them).Do your job. Nothing more, nothing less.Find a good partner, because that is truely what makes this job worth having!Leave the political bullshit, ass kissing, and number generating up to those who choose to do it.At the end of the day, be able to look at yourself in the mirror, be happy with what you see, and be happy with what you are working for ( i.e. family).
At the end of the day, we can make good arrests, we can write good paper, but WE CAN'T STOP IDIOITS FROM BEING IDIOITS!
Sir Donkey, esq.
Unsure about all this 911 stuff but if I had a TAKE HOME CAR...my family expenses wouldn't be UPSIDE down in the budget right now!
In other words any relief (like a raise, retro, break on the City property taxes for being the police or fire,) ANYTHING!
Would help me and my family to climb out of the hole we are in financially and lift my morale and spirits then I can focus on the rest of the City and its GOOD people and their problems 100%, like the good people in 004 or 003 when I am serving them!
Just saying!
003 is a dump, so is the 7th ward. Sandi should give it back to Beaver's daughter. Probably a well meaning woman just too insulated from the harsh realites.
the night tact teams from slow dist's are now in ghetto dist's.
pay high taxes and get little service in return.
IT'S THE CHICAGO WAY !
Rgeading the following previous post:
Our Commander said that he was losing the raise due to the unpaid furlough days. He was happier just being a lieutenant.
7/23/2009 08:51:00 PM
Why doesnt he "MAN UP" and turn in his gold star then? We could use him in the Lt. ranks. I call bullshit, everyone can talk a big game on this Department, when it comes to action, fuhgedaboutit!!!!
Keep lying your asses off, we are short 2,000+ sworn police officers.
Maybe, if we all just pretend that Chicago is a Mayberry; all will be well! ( OR ) is it all is one???
Just wait until Election Day 2011, I have never seen a more energized constituency turn hostile and hateful. Bye, bye Richie!!!!
How pathetic and political will this job become? The way it is becoming I can see the day when M/?'s are blowing their way into spots, on a regular basis.
OMG, I pray for civil insurrection in Chicago. Let it burn, burn baby, burn!!!
SCC, 003 has no more openings than other districts. The others are doing a better job of covering that up. Everyday I look at the sheets for 3rd watch in my far south side district and wonder what happened. 10 years ago, all the cars were manned and an ASSIST car was always near by. Now, crime is way up and no cars available ALL the time. Can't any one of these reporters do something and make this more well known?
I work in 004 and love it. Why? Because there are lots of decent people living there. It's sad to see tax-paying citizens not get their money's worth because we are constantly dealing with all the drama in the tax depleting areas.
i think it's funny J-Fed claims it would be irresponsible to schedule more recruit classes until they get the federal grant money...um, hey numbnuts, how about it would be irresponsible to let manpower get this low, and continue to get lower without doing anything about it!!..gotta love these POLITICIANS who try to put on the badge. nothing more than Daley's butt buddy, at his beck and call..try standing up for the people you are supposedly "leading". what a joke.
the night tact teams from slow dist's are now in ghetto dist's.
pay high taxes and get little service in return.
IT'S THE CHICAGO WAY !
7/24/2009 04:07:00 AM
016, 017, 019, and 020 - all night teams and relief teams working nights will be sent to 015 to babysit the taxpayers over there for at least the next month!!!
Calls were made to tact lts asking for manpower predictions through the end of August. I guess the taxes we pay are not good enough to receive police coverage in our neighborhoods!
This is from a fairly credible source, the City of Chicago is preparing to hire 1,000 new police recruits through Federal monies.
The academy is almost ready for the influx and the background inviestigators are scrambling right now.
They are waiting for the Federal money to hit and they realize how bad the situation is. The Superintendent is ontop of this.
Sir Donkey that's a great name for you, because that was a jackass statement I don't know where you work or do you just walk around with your eye's closed. Police shootings/shots fired at the police is alaming if they were only shooting at each other that would be a different story But NEWS FLASH we just had a officer kill over some gang banging BS. MR. DONKEY WAKE UP!
This is partially the result of years and years of the machine producing a "NANNY" state willing to help everyone even with the most innocuous problem.
"...leave all the taxpayers in 016 to fend for themselves---
7/24/2009 01:57:00 AM"
Great idea.
Pass out 100 rounds of 12 gauge buck, (sorry, citizens, you'll have to pony up for your own pump, semi, side by side or over/under yourselves), vacate the area and let the shit fly where it may.
Remember, citizens, to pay close attention to what's behind your intended target(s).
If the ghetto is like a self cleaning oven, the homefront should be like an automatic dishwasher.
Wash, rinse and repeat.
Effective Sunday, 15 P.O's from HQ who were formerly dispatchers and who were still collecting D2 pay even though assigned to Districts or Units, going to back OEMC to fill dispatcher shortages. Thought we did not have P.O's as dispatchers? Way to save the city money and fill the street vacancies!
***OFF TOPIC***
2 retired Area 5 detectives were hit yesterday from a federal jury with punative damages of $66000 each. This stemed from a police involved shooting and witnesses being in Area 5 for only 8 hours. You think any bosses or the state's attorneys are going to come up with money, because as everyone knows, you sit around waiting for a round table while the bosses & the state's attorney's get their act together.
More BS - 008th District 20 & 30 sector cars, 1st watch are detailed to a violence mission for their first hour of the tour which means they don't answer calls.
Dispatcher assigned a job the other night & Sgt got on and said that no jobs were to be assigned to the 20 & 30 sector cars while on the mission. Dispatch informed him that there was a backlog (go figure) and Sgt. said No Jobs. They got into a little spat but No Jobs were dispatched.
Can anyone explain what this mission is and what it is supposed to accomplish?
Police blotter: 6 wounded in 5 shootings
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR...WHO GIVES A CRAP IF WHERE ALWAYS ON A RAP. I ALLOW MYSELF PLENTY OF TIME TO GET TO MY JOB. I DONT CARE WHAT KIND OF JOB IT IS AS LONG AS A PO IS ASKING FOR HELP, I COULD CARE LESS. LET THIS CITY BURN, I COULD CARE LESS. WHERE ON A CONSTANT RAP EVERY DAY IN 008TH, AND IM SICK OF NOT HAVING ENOUGH MAN POWER. SO FUCK IT, IF THE CITY DONT CARE, NEITHER DO I.
Now if only there was someone high in the police department who would be able come out with some type of guide line or order which would state what type of jobs should be dispatched to patrol officers. But who could that be? What we need is one person in charge of patrol, a chief of patrol. Hey wait a minute! We do! It's DUGAN! He could change all of this! But he doesn't, oh well. Dugan is the 4th in the chain of command, if he can't make this change or talk to the 3 people above him he should be fired.
Perhaps it is time to simply take deep breath and think.....obama says police were stupid in harvard case,blacks and hispanics are picked on, shootings appear out of control in chgo,no cars available on 1st and 3rd watches,manpower shortage,cr files will be available to public/lawyers/.......answer....slowdown and answer calls when and as you are able..no arrests unless signed complaint..follow rules and go's...go slowly,slowlyeventually you will leverage the pain upwards to the pols and aldercreatures...this is not the "old"cpd...the only important thing is to go home at the end of your shift as healthy as when you started
Anonymous said...
Hey EB the other day in zone 6 it was rocking and rolling, that was second watch. In the midst of person w/gun, shots fired and burglary in progress calls the dispatcher assigned this call to a beat car. Bt. XXXX make a notification, Juvenile court is requesting that you go to blank address and notify joe Blow citizen that his court date is tomorrow and he needs to appear. The bt. states why cant they make the notification and the dispatcher says because they called 911. Until bullshit calls like this stop citizens will have to wait for police response on a real emergency because city-wide the department is in a RAP.
Sounds strange to me to be calling 911 to remind people of court dates , but there are some strange people are atJuvenile court.
Received letter at my business yesterday from Dept of Police / City of Chicago, / Supt Jody Weis/ requesting I donate to "City of Chicago , Gun Turn In Program"
I assumed they mailed these to every registered business in the city , paying postage of 44 cents on each. Sorry , I won't be donating, the city already has me so far this year for $710 in fines, tickets and I still have to pay my business license by August 15 , and it's only July.Figure the city should get close to at least a $1000 from me this year , meanwhile my business is getting hurt big time by the $1 an hour meters in front .
I am always amused when the permanent underclass march or protest anything!
I saw the news. A bunch of losers marching at the site of a future Wal*Mart wearing tee-shirts reading (while chanting)"Jobs OR Else!"
Or else what? You'll continue, raping & pillaging, killing, stealing, robbing, abusing alcohol & drugs?!
Knock yourselves out!
Ms jackson has a lot of nerve wanting to redeploy MORE cops to the jungle. We don't have any tact teams left up here where I live as it is. We're on our own to defend ourselves and our families.
Anonymous said...
016 district tac teams sent out to 015 and 016 left with only skeleton crew of a watch--- good idea-- send working police to district with no taxpayers and leave all the taxpayers in 016 to fend for themselves--- dispatcher puts a rap in and starts denying lunches because she has priority jobs with nobody to send--- 016 citizens--- arm yourselves and organize now--- after nov 1st when new insurance package takes effect, the shortage will be much worse... we have plenty of police to send to baby's mama's house when little boo won't eat his pork and beans but no police to patrol your area while these jagoffs are yanking the gutters off your garage and stealing the gps out of your car--- our newly minted president is quick to call peace officers stupid but doesn't have a word to say about the carnage that goes on daily in our ghetto communities--- canada looks more inviting every day----
Same thing happened in 019 district. Tac teams sent to 015 this whole week. What a joke. 019 district has one of the highest property taxes in the city and we pull their police officers to go work on the west side. Because of some shooting. This whole dept is a joke. Makes no sense whatsoever!
I have no problem with Sandi Jackson wanting more police service. I wish Ginger Rugai cared half as much about her ward. But she would never risk displeasing the mayor and mention we have no police service in the 19th ward.
Hell maybe some of the other alderman will figure out we are 650+ police officers short.
close 12,13,21 and 23
realign beats so every district has 15 beat cars
do this and you won't have to promote captains or sergeants for a year save money so we can get a pay raise
Anonymous said...
Hey EB the other day in zone 6 it was rocking and rolling, that was second watch. In the midst of person w/gun, shots fired and burglary in progress calls the dispatcher assigned this call to a beat car. Bt. XXXX make a notification, Juvenile court is requesting that you go to blank address and notify joe Blow citizen that his court date is tomorrow and he needs to appear. The bt. states why cant they make the notification and the dispatcher says because they called 911. Until bullshit calls like this stop citizens will have to wait for police response on a real emergency because city-wide the department is in a RAP.
7/24/2009 12:45:00 AM
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I lay the blame for this happening to the street supervisors, Sergeants or Field Lieutenant if there was one, or maybe the Watch Commander. One of them should have denied that request. We are, or at least should be, in control. Policy should dictate that any request like that. adsministrative in nature, should be made directly to the district for approval by the Watch Commander, who if he had any sense would deny it.
In the ghetto i get a "my son is disrespecting me" in progress call and where i live i call to get report for cdtv and dispatcher tells me to go to station. WTF!!!
Anonymous said...
Just wait until Election Day 2011, I have never seen a more energized constituency turn hostile and hateful. Bye, bye Richie!!!!
7/24/2009 04:32:00 AM
The only way he would not win an election in Chicago, would be if he were dead, and even then he might win. To many people owe him, he'll be mayor as long as he wants it !
Wiliams ain't lying about that! Far too much BS calls coming over zone 8 that we have to respond to.
Another thing...003 doesn't have such a huge block of openings as is being reported. Other Districts are just covering up the obvious holes within their own patrol boundaries.
Weis, Masters and shortshanks have destroyed what was once a source of pride for all who took an oath to serve & protect here. All of that, in consideration with the new court decision of IAD files doesn't help us at all. I don't see a rush of people wanting to take on a job with such a high stress level with no end in sight.
Cops hired 20 years ago were taught real world skills on how to catch criminals. How to interview and get information out of them. How to be warriors in the street, get the guns before they could be used, turn gang members against each other, be proactive and curtail a lot of violent crimes.
Now police are taught to depend on computers for everything. Its not their faults...just the "times". It was wrong for the Sup to say, they are better trained now than 20 year vets. Completely silly actually. Nuff said...
The 16th District has a tact team???
So the chief of patrol can not issue orders to patrol? What a moron. Isn't Weis the head of OEC?
Half the goofy people in 006 and 004 call the police for every little thing. They are adults yet they have a child mentality. Examples of such are: (1) me and my boyfriend have an arguement, I call the police and put a case on him. (2) My kid doesn't want to go to school, I will call the police. (3) My kid isn't listening to me, I will call the police. (4) My cousin took my beer, I call the police. (5) Some kids "jumped on me", I will call the police, I want a report, even though it is a useless piece of paper because I will never do anything with it like getting off my fat ass and swear out a warrant. They will call the police for every little but the funny thing is the hate the police and they see us as a racist, oppressive force in their neighborhood and we are not to be trusted but they will call 911 at the drop of a hat. Its really confusing???
The bottom tax bracket uses 95% of the public services (police and fire especially) in this city and country and they play little or no taxes compared to the rest of us who hardly call 911 but when we do our services are coming from so far away because they are "deployed" to neighborhoods who supposedly need them more. Isn't great to live in a socialist country like the USA??? Minorities think the louder they cry the more people will listen to them, and these days they are starting to get their way. Time to move to Naperville, no wonder it is the 2nd largest city in Illinois, people just got fed up with the Sandi Jacksons of the city and her constituents complaining they don't get enough of anything even though they don't pay their fair share and don't appreciate what they have.
Long-time reader, first-time poster. As the wife of a tact officer, I read the blog every day and appreciate and admire both your diligence and perspective - a perspective that is so right on and to the point.
Considering CPD "authorized" rifles so many months ago, yet still has not gotten them on the streets, I felt this was an important link to share.
You are already severely out-gunned on the streets, having to deal with people who do not have a fear of the police or a care for them, and have no incentive or desire to NOT break the law at every chance they get. They are also pulling the trigger much more often, both on each other and the police. This article is a reminder of the real dangers that exist out there and how vital it is that the police can effectively police situations.
I'm hoping you can link this article in one of your posts, in order to get proper spotlight on it. And perhaps Sneed, or some other "un-biased" media folk can tell a real story for once!
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/07/23/california.mcdonalds.massacre/index.html
If anyone knows either Mike Parker or Mike Flannery at Ch. 2, try to reach out to one of them. Both live in St. Barnabas in 022. Both are solid guys. Maybe they will take the true story to the folks in time for a viable alternative to shortshnks to emerge.
Hmmmm...
Soooo... Is shortshank's endgame in play?
1. Bring in j-fart to destroy the department.
2. Make j-fart earn his million dollars by wearing the hairshirt for redistricting or eliminating the concept of Police Districts as we currently know it.
3. Shrink the department through attrition then remake it in shortshanks image. 4k to 5k officers as a city-wide roving rapid response team for in progress/just occurred calls (311 & civilian contractors will handle case reporting and other non-emergency situations).
We can almost foresee TMA handling non fatal crashes and being blessed by king 42 extra-short to issue moving violations and the like.
4. Dumping salary by encouraging older (read as "more expensive") officers to retire earlier. We wouldn't be so quick to shout huzzah over the 55 medical just yet... We smell a rotund rodent rotting somewhere in the walls on this one. Let's wait a bit. The devilish details will soon reveal themselves upon further review.
5. The good citizens in the face of declining manpower and prompt Police response, will for the most part just simply say "fuck-it" and not call. Reduced calls for service means less "reported" crime means Chicago is a "safe" place for the suburbanites and tourists to come and get fleeced, uhhh... spend their copious disposable income.
The people who live here are starting to get immune to the "curious musick and magick odours" spewing from the daley colon as evidenced by the hard questioning the 2016 fluffers have been getting during the neighborhood meetings. The stuttering prick is nearing his over due massive shit hemorrhage because people dare to deny him his "legacy" which fittingly would be having his bones paraded through Port Au Prince err... Chicago by the citizens who will be left destitute when the bills come due for 2016. He and his lackeys actually deserve trial by the people and public definistration... We can only dream.
What really concerns us is that our other idle ramblings regarding the state of the department turned out not to be so far fetched. God bless us all and we do hope that we're wrong. Time will tell.
As always, stay safe everyone, please!
Now... We're off to the back yard. A good strong cup of coffee, rum and a Padron Anniversario cigar await.
The gangs are always hiring and getting larger in numbers and the police are either laying off cops or not hiring at all nationwide. It's going to be a bloody year maybe two until something gets done. Wake the fuck up america!!!
Oh and O/T, N.J. officials, N.Y. rabbis caught in federal money laundering, corruption sweep. Three mayors, one deputy mayor and law makers, 47 in total all caught red handed. It's obvious that the NJ&NY FBI field office is out there working hard to bust these cocksuckers. When the hell are they gonna bust Daley and his goons. What the fuck are they waiting for. Since 2001 the FBI in Jersey has nabbed about 131 public officals and politicians and are now sitting in federal prison while the midget is doing his usual shit right under everyones noses.
How about we have all the early 1st watch cars wait an hour to come out then sit on do nothing violence missions for the next 2 hours. That way we can pull all the cars out of our neighborhood to have them handle the backlogged jobs on the east end of the district.
oh.. I forgot.. we're already doing that in 8. I'm all out of ideas.
NEW FLASH!!!!!! NOBODY CARES about us (the POLICE) Its da lympics he wants. He'll sacrafice the lives of those who still take pride in the work we do..Because as he said if you dont like the job, quit!
Ask any citizen in 004 and they will tell you they have never seen her or know what she does for the community. I don't think she has ever been to a CAPS meeting either. I always tell the citizens if you don't see her it's because she's at the plastic surgeon getting a retouch.
'Survival of the fittest' (or should that be 'best-armed') is the only problem with letting them all kill each other.
"The men and women coming out of the academy today are far better trained than those graduating 20 years ago. That's just a fact... I think we'll have a stronger department because we're bringing in younger officers who will have additional training than [sic] some of our older officers."
-Jody Weis
Blah Blah Blah......The brass keep saying the saying it but not acting on it, “We have to stop dispatching so many calls to police officers on the street. We are one of the few — probably the only major city — that responds 60-plus percent of the time when someone picks up the phone and says, ‘I want the police,’”
Dugan came out and said the same exact thing months ago. Yet, nothing has changed. We still dispatch a car for every little bullshit call that comes in. Why? Because no one has the balls to act on it. No one wants to be the one to blame when some asshole sues the city "cuz the police just hung up on me and never come out"
They'll cry racism or some other bullshit. Or a single incident will occur and the blame will be all over someone because "The victim prior to getting murdered, called 911, asked for police during the struggle and then hung up." Someone will hang for it and no one wants to be that person.
let's see...24/7 coverage...4.5 FTE ... so they're like 6-7 cars short?
Why doesn't this AlderWo- man really work with the police in trying to figure out what's being done!!
This city council proposal is no more than a publicity stunt...
I work in some of the Beats in the 7 th Ward and nothing but NASTY... garbage , no descent alleys, street lightings, sewers, broken glass.,,,
instead of introducing resolutions Ms. Action- Sandie Jackson, how about helping us when we actually do foot chases over there to have street lights on and we're not stepping in shit and glass..,
Do Your job so we can do hours,,,,
resolution Resolved- you won't get my vote..
Let see the Scum Times said were 500 officers short. At an avg. salary of let say $45,000.00 a year the city is saving 22,500,000.00 a year and we still can't get a decent raise.
Yes. Let's deploy something we don't HAVE... asshats.
Do these people live in freaking boxes? They can't see that um, we don't have enough officers out here?!?!?!?
To:4:59 pm. DAT WAS BEAUTIFUL...
what about when you call 911 as an e.g. you call is about a PIECE OF SHIT BANGER selling on an specific address, You gave details of the offender ,clothing, height, were he is hidding the drugs and aprox. age, by the time the dispatcher gets the ticket 90 % of the info it got lust, and then you call back 911 for a supervisor to BITCH and then they give a fucking attitude,and very quick blame the police for their laziness.
Member is neva are foult!
Saw J-Fed on television today explaining it all. Yes, we will have retirees, but we will have new and improved young cops to take their place who will be trained even better than the cops we already have even though there is nobody at the academy, no tests being given and none scheduled. Didn't make any sense but I guess that doesn't matter.
If you look really close at his eyes you can see the computer chip in his pupils.
I tuned my scanner to 007 & 008,a call came in about a drunk couple fighting over some chicken ..The BABY'S DADDY wanted the BABY'S MAMA throwing out of the house and arrested because she took the last wing!
WTF only in the fucking GHETTO you get these type of horse-shit calls.
What a waste of tax payers money and police work and then you are quick to bitch about not having police response to others.
Next time get the 50 pieces JJFish special, and then is all good!
yum yum yum
Since 2001 the FBI in Jersey has nabbed about 131 public officals and politicians and are now sitting in federal prison while the midget is doing his usual shit right under everyones noses.
Remember the MIDGET has one AGENT up his arse ..upss Im sorry on his pocket
Anonymous said...
"The men and women coming out of the academy today are far better trained than those graduating 20 years ago. That's just a fact... I think we'll have a stronger department because we're bringing in younger officers who will have additional training than [sic] some of our older officers."
-Jody Weis
7/24/2009 04:39:00 PM
The additional training are days of bullshit details for recruits. Parades, marathons, stuffing bags,and other errands for bosses. Training is the same but longer. Now we do not have a range. All smoke and mirrors.
i saw about 25 cars without city stickers today. i couldnt write any tickets because of the backlog and we were so busy answering calls.
as soon as the contract settles, i will be motivated to write some tickets. . . u give us the bare minimum, we will give you the bare minimum.
"The men and women coming out of the academy today are far better trained than those graduating 20 years ago. That's just a fact... I think we'll have a stronger department because we're bringing in younger officers who will have additional training than [sic] some of our older officers."
-Jody Weis
7/24/2009 04:39:00 PM
JACKIE HEARD IS ON HELL OF A SPIN DOCTOR & WATER HEAD NEVER STRAYS FROM THE SCRIPT.
"Our Commander said that he was losing the raise due to the unpaid furlough days. He was happier just being a lieutenant.
7/23/2009 08:51:00 PM"
THAT HIS ATTEMPT @ THE LAME ASS WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT SCHTICK.
YOU BOUGHT IT HOOK ,LINE& SINKER BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE TEMERITY TO PUT HIS QUOTE ON THE BLOG, YOU ARE NOTHING MORE THAN SUCKHOLE STOOGE.
0737 pm:
I heard we were 6000 short... how much is the city stealing?
I want more police to stay in the 10 sector in 8. Does anyone care about that? The 30 sector is gone, the 20 sec , some can be saved. But the 10 sector is still hanging in there but for how long? I don't really care about the stupid missions in 8, until it starts effecting the 10 sector.... And will. Everyone on this job lives in Chicago, so everyone who works in 8 should know how it feels to know that your property, family isn't being protected.
I work in 008 we are in a Rap every effen day on all watches!!! For those pod cameras that are useless quit sending me messages about parkers. WE ARE TO EFFEN BUSY TO WORRY ABOUT PARKERS. And when a real crime occurs in front of those shitboxes it either didn't capture or commander Kirk wasn't paying attention. P.O.D.S Putting On a Dumbass Show
Half the goofy people in 006 and 004 call the police for every little thing. They are adults yet they have a child mentality. Examples of such are: (1) me and my boyfriend have an arguement, I call the police and put a case on him. (2) My kid doesn't want to go to school, I will call the police. (3) My kid isn't listening to me, I will call the police. (4) My cousin took my beer, I call the police. (5) Some kids "jumped on me", I will call the police, I want a report, even though it is a useless piece of paper because I will never do anything with it like getting off my fat ass and swear out a warrant. They will call the police for every little but the funny thing is the hate the police and they see us as a racist, oppressive force in their neighborhood and we are not to be trusted but they will call 911 at the drop of a hat. Its really confusing???
7/24/2009 01:53:00 PM
That type of thing is going on everywhere in the city, not just 006 and 004. Especially on the south and west side.
"If you look really close at his eyes you can see the computer chip in his pupils.
7/24/2009 09:10:00 PM"
Which one, a 486?
Dear scc: to 11:53: Ditto. at least I got the chance to be the kind of cop my dad was for the first 14 or so years of my career cause the last four years on this job really meant nothing except for about 15 minutes on the 1st and 16th. So sad, I'm sure dad is rolling over in his grave.
far better trained than those graduating 20 years ago. That's just a fact...
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I will call TOTAL bull&*^t on that one... of course if you call sitting in class with no instructor, listening to the one that does show up tell you s/he just found out they had to teach the class and aren't prepared, never did it before etc, or the best one, "I don't know why we are giving this class, there is no plan for it" What other excuses are there?
The academy should be the best, the training should be the best, but it isn't... the recruits stand around for hours with nothing to do, then they are used as manpower long before they are finished with their training. The Field Training program is in the TANK, there is NO backing from the department to make that program useful, and believe me, if you think about it, YOU USUALLY BECOME THE KIND OF COP YOUR FTO WAS.. or one of your FTO's... it is the group you get together with when you hit the street that has the biggest impact on the kind of copper you become... think back... and unfortunately this isn't always such a good thing....
In service training is non existent ... this three hour training bs is a total drain on manpower, why not do the right thing with in service? Each officer/member does 40 hours at the academy each year, get it all in then... it would be so much better from all angles.
So, maybe they start hiring people to only work 5 years then you have to leave because your training expired...LOL and they won't train you any more...
Sociology 101 says:
Discipline starts at home...not the teachers, not the social workers, not the revs, not the police, not the government. The crux of the problem are those that are having kids don't care what they do, who they hang with, etc. Then get in everyone's face, including the media when something happens to their "baby" and demand answers, demand more hand-outs, etc. This is the mentality that prevails in the ghetto and it is not getting any better. Only worse. You have to change the mentality, but that happens from within and it just not happening. You have generations living off the teat of the government, you have generations of families in prisons, etc. They just don't get it. VEry few climb out of the ghetto mentality and move on out of that sphere of staying out late, getting up late and waiting for that next government check. Everything else is sex, crime and drugs.
This is from a fairly credible source, the City of Chicago is preparing to hire 1,000 new police recruits through Federal monies.
The academy is almost ready for the influx and the background inviestigators are scrambling right now.
They are waiting for the Federal money to hit and they realize how bad the situation is. The Superintendent is ontop
Is that why TL dumped 5 senior background investigators? Way to go and great decision making.
i heard on the radio that the city says "quote" - "we respond to each and every 911 cal"..
ha ha ha
how many times have I heard a supervisor jump on the air and 19p the 20-30 back logs disturbance jobs without a single car ever responding to any one of those calls for service soley based on the caller wished to remain anonymous. this is fucking insane and somebody needs to put a stop to it!
When I call the police and I tell all my neighbors and family. be as descriptive as possible with locations, plate numbers, colors, clothing, direction, etc but you can remain anonymous so the idiot cop doesn't walk up to your front door, pounding on it yelling "did you call the police"....
How about we have all the early 1st watch cars wait an hour to come out then sit on do nothing violence missions for the next 2 hours. That way we can pull all the cars out of our neighborhood to have them handle the backlogged jobs on the east end of the district.
oh.. I forgot.. we're already doing that in 8. I'm all out of ideas.
7/24/2009 04:16:00 PM
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008's not the only district where it's happening.
Effective Sunday, 15 P.O's from HQ who were formerly dispatchers and who were still collecting D2 pay even though assigned to Districts or Units, going to back OEMC to fill dispatcher shortages. Thought we did not have P.O's as dispatchers? Way to save the city money and fill the street vacancies!
7/24/2009 07:31:00 AM
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Old news. Almost 15 years old. The police officers you mention are dispatchers per arbitration because the city tried to fuck them 10 years ago and the city lost in arbitration. Hurray FOP!
They have been in communications ever since, now OEMC, so they are not now leaving patrol. Actually, the city would like to have them back and throw them in a beat car.
Dispatch can deny my lunch all they want!
Bottom line is I'm still going to stop and eat food and have my lunch! NO MATTER WHAT IS GOING ON!
Get me a Power Test and Into the Academy and I will happily work 003.
Respectfully Signed:
*Praying for a Police Exam*
Anonymous said...
Half the goofy people in 006 and 004 call the police for every little thing. They are adults yet they have a child mentality. Examples of such are: (1) me and my boyfriend have an arguement, I call the police and put a case on him. (2) My kid doesn't want to go to school, I will call the police. (3) My kid isn't listening to me, I will call the police. (4) My cousin took my beer, I call the police. (5) Some kids "jumped on me", I will call the police, I want a report, even though it is a useless piece of paper because I will never do anything with it like getting off my fat ass and swear out a warrant. They will call the police for every little but the funny thing is the hate the police and they see us as a racist, oppressive force in their neighborhood and we are not to be trusted but they will call 911 at the drop of a hat. Its really confusing???
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Well, thats why after several years of "running with the BULLS or the dogs"...or so to say, many coppers then choose to go north or south west or downtown or to yuppieville to "get away" from those type of situations that infuriate or frustrate them....
Problem is you can get into trouble there too....
SHITHEADS know no boundaries and Chicago is Chicago basically and violence has different levels based on the demographics of the neighborhoods...But the yuppie/liberal may become your new frustration!
We are succeptible to the beefs everywhere and I am finding out that the yup/liberal are as goofy as Dude basically with their "NITWITTEDNESS" or self righteousness or NON-CHICAGOAN neighborhood breeding, when it comes to "I pay your taxes and I want a report " and they really don't need one.....etc. etc.
In my sociological study of Dude his domain and the world he mopes in....
I have found that their mental capacity may lack in academics and the YUP on the other hand may lack in common sense and street knowledge but overall BOTH are an animal of "ME ME or I am IMPORTANT"
YUP pays taxes like property and such and Dude pays Sales tax but yet BOTH feel they are DESERVED and OWED something and thus the CASES they make for themselves when BEEFING at or to or ABOUT the police and their service is similar.
Though the police response and respect levels vary of these two elements of society there are mimicking attitudes and traits that can make one think.....
The end result or correlation is.....DEMOCRAT!
3 bars
Ald. Sandi Jackson and her husband should both be in jail. How can she have an issue with manpower when she is not ever in the area she controls. She is always in Washington with her children. Look at the lights, the streets, the neighborhoods and the people she serves. Where is she spending the money she is supposed to spend to improve her community? How can she say the police don't support her? The Superintendent and the Deputy Chief of Area 2 jump at anything she says then she dogs them to the media and anyone else who will listen. She is not for the people, she is for herself.
She is just trying to set the ground work for her to run for a higher office and she is using the Police Department as her vehicle to get there. Wake up Superintendent and Mayor Daley. She is going to try and get her incompotent Chief of Staff Bonita Parker appointed to take her place. Remember you heard it here first!
Alcoholic witch!
In response to:
"Hey EB the other day in zone 6 it was rocking and rolling, that was second watch. In the midst of person w/gun, shots fired and burglary in progress calls the dispatcher assigned this call to a beat car. Bt. XXXX make a notification, Juvenile court is requesting that you go to blank address and notify joe Blow citizen that his court date is tomorrow and he needs to appear. The bt. states why cant they make the notification and the dispatcher says because they called 911. Until bullshit calls like this stop citizens will have to wait for police response on a real emergency because city-wide the department is in a RAP.
7/24/2009 12:45:00 AM"
Ok, this ticket wasn't actually called in via a phone line, (dispatcher actually said someone called the district desk about it) it was made by a police officer at the desk. Trust me, I know....I saw the actual ticket.
Unfortunately, no matter how many low priority jobs with no complainants and/or how long they've been sitting on the board, the OEMC dispatchers were recently told that ALL jobs are to be assigned no matter what. We can no longer read and code these types of jobs like we were allowed to back in the day. Apparently the "INSPECTORS" are under instructions from who knows who to advise D/C'S and W/C'S of this policy and the command is trickling down to the dispatchers on the zones who have no say in the matter. Some dispatchers make certain jobs "disappear" so most units will never even hear about them. But there are just too many bullshit jobs coming in to handle in such a way without the dispatcher getting found out by management and end up getting in a lot of trouble. Specially on a zone like zone 6.
How is it possible that the politicians don't notice the increasing crime rate? How can they allow the police department to be understaffed the way it is? All I can think of is a particular conspiracy theory which might not be a theory at all but might in fact be something in the making. MARTIAL LAW IS COMING. Be ready.....
I want more police to stay in the 10 sector in 8. Does anyone care about that? The 30 sector is gone, the 20 sec , some can be saved. But the 10 sector is still hanging in there but for how long? I don't really care about the stupid missions in 8, until it starts effecting the 10 sector.... And will. Everyone on this job lives in Chicago, so everyone who works in 8 should know how it feels to know that your property, family isn't being protected.
7/25/2009 12:51:00 AM
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If your going to wait to fight the beast when hes at Central ; your too fucken late!!
fyi- yesterday 800 ordered 811 and 812 not to take calls off thier beats.... nice iron ball move - way to go!
Working in 008 is like ;
The 300 Spartans in the Battle of Thermopylae. Where the Spartan king Leonidas, led 300 Spartans against a Persian army of almost limitless size. Despite the odds, the Spartans will not flee or surrender, even if it means their deaths.
And it Did!
If the newer cops are ' better trained" why are we not sending the veteran officers for in- service training. If better training is available for the new guys we should be availing it to everyone. Next thing will be a power test for in-sevice or maybe recruits as FTOs to retrain the guys with time on the job. Do thrse people think before they spaek?
Sandi Jackson, like all of the other 49 aldermen, are PART-TIME employees.
They don't have to punch a clock every day. If she wants to spend some of her 'away' time in DC, she can do that. If she wants to hold a mtg to allow her constituents to beef about poor police response, she can do that too.
The other aldermen hold these same kind of 'town hall' mtgs all across the City. Deal with it.
how many times have I heard a supervisor jump on the air and 19p the 20-30 back logs disturbance jobs without a single car ever responding to any one of those calls for service soley based on the caller wished to remain anonymous. this is fucking insane and somebody needs to put a stop to it!
--There shouldn't be ANY anonymous calls. How many men with gun calls are anonymous? ALL OF THEM!
Too bad if people don't like their neighbors and what they do. Family parties, loud music, kids playing ball.... Get real. If they are disturbing your peace, come and sign the complaint; otherwise it's a 5P because they aren't bothering me any.
I commend the Sgts. that code these bullshit jobs!
I commend the Sgts. that code these bullshit jobs!
Thanks Sgt. Mulligan and his defender co-sgts; but we really do need more blue shirts, not just captains and exempts.
How can we effectively do our jobs (fight & prevent crime) when our bosses won't even acknowledge and go to bat for our unmet necessities (like manpower shortages)? We all know what the department's problems are; we talk about them on the blog and with one another; but who is really doing something to address them? When we try, we are quickly silenced by bosses who are inadequately trained for their supervisory / leadership roles (or who have other priorities and motives than to combat crime in this city). When I think, that this is the city I was born, raised in, and where I am raising my kids, it really pisses me off.
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