Anti Police Tear
The Sun Times must be making up for their Jackie Heard coverage:
- ER nurse sues cop for handcuffing her during dispute over drawing suspect's blood
- Crooked cop still gets his pension -- from prison
No word that the ER dispute is a continuing investigation and the Hanhardt situation is a loophole that was addressed so well by the legislature 50 years ago.
The bias is so overt lately, it can only be coming from City Hall.
The bias is so overt lately, it can only be coming from City Hall.
Labels: media
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
109 Comments:
Hey Suntimes GO FUCK YOURSELF , people are disgusted with your paper , no one is swallowing the shit your shoving . Stick that paper in your ass hope you go bankrupt soon.
R THE DICKS LOOKING INTO THAT WACKY SCIENTIST AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO!
HE WAS ONLY WORKING ON THE PLAGUE??
ISNT THAT WHERE THE NUCLEAR BOMB WAS CREATED!
SO THIS GOOF CATCHES THE PLAGUE GOES TO A HOSPITAL AND DOESNT TELL THE DOCTORS HE IS WORKING ON THE PLAGUE!!
CMON J-FED NO DEATH INVESTIGATION NUT THE CITY SEND THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH?
THE SAME DEPARTMENT IN CHARGE OF INVESTIGATING FOOD POISONING AND FLU OUTBREAKS!
AND NOTHING MENTIONED AT ROLL CALL ABOUT THIS OR THE ARAB MAKING BOMBS 4 NEW YORK!
I GUESS IM PARANOID LET TALK ABOUT OLYMPICS.....
The coverage is valid.
SCC, what the hell do you want?
You already have a real hockey team now you want to dictate to the media? I exaggerate for effect.
Where the hell does it say stories critical of "the police" or more likely individual officers is invalid.
We don't get to say what's reported.
It's not like there is such a thing as the Chicago Police Pravda Newspaper which only prints stories approved by a committee of retired Chicago Police.
As for Hanhardt fuck him. Robert Cooley wrote about him in "When Corruption Was King". Just another mobbed up cop.
Thank God we don't have any more of them around. Cough, cough. I mean now that "Twan" Doyle is gone.
I'd still like to know how "Twan" ended up in property.
Covering the lawsuit of the ER nurse is legitimate news.
It is arguable whether it was a legitimate arrest. It is not arguable whether it is a story. Personally the cop involved should have used his discretion and NOT arrested the nurse. He was asking for trouble and found it.
Now can we please get back to hating on Daley?
Don't buy the the Suntimes and tell everyone you know to do the same. They have been bashing on the police for months because they have nothing else to write about. They are a bunch of lazy assholes who couldn't write a true or interesting story for the life of them. Tell everyone you know to cancel their subscriptions and put them out of business.
Well, putting the nurse in cuffs was a dumb fuck move anyway.....I suppose she was cuffed and in the back of a squad for 45 min but was never under arrest, LOL, sounds like she was to me.....get ready to lose this lawsuit.
Face it, there are too many idiots on CPD.
Why bother with going through all that B.S. to prove a point to a nurse. Who like the police is here to serve the public. If a DUI subject is drunk the b.a.c will show up hours after the fact. WHAT IS THE F**KIN HURRY. WHY ARE FELLOW P.O.'S IN SUCH A HURRY TO MAKE A ASS OUT IF THE REST OF US. THANKS TOUGH GUY, WTF!!!!!
And why shouldn't a crooked cop get his pension? We have a crooked Mayor and he still gets his paycheck.
Which is worse?
Guess I am a little older and retired CPD but years ago a Congreeman named Dan Rosenkowski( Rusty), he is the Congressman who went to prison for stealing postal stamps, he is also the Congreeman and former head of the Ways and Means committee that voted that Police Officer can not have a full social security benefits upon retirement, he is also the Congressman who made many boss'es such as Byrnes and the list goes on and on, oh yes does he get a Congressional pension even though he is a convicted felon, guess just another loophole. Come on Suntimes, if you wish to report the past lets remember all of it
THE DAY CROOKED/FELON POLITICIANS STOP BEING POLITICIANS AND OR DRAWING A PAYCHECK OR PENSION THEY CAN BITCH ABOUT US.OTHERWISE TOO FUCKING BAD.
Cuffing the charge nurse at Illinois Masonic was a true bonehead move. A lawsuit was filed against the city and the nurse's lawyer called the Scum Times to report what he had done to drum up more business for himself. It was, unfortunately, a legitimate news story. The arresting officer is the one to be sore at in this instance. You can't fix stupid.
a liberal rag of a paper. look at the columnists. the furthest in leftwing(nuts)ideas. barry cheerleaders-police haters-nanny statists and corruption/crime apologists.
In 30 years on the job, I never once had a problem at the Illinois Masonic Hospital. Their staff was always courteous and helpful and they were great whenever a cop was injured. It only took one jagoff to fuck up that relationship. He needs "Call-Back" really bad.
It's okay. Sun Times unions turned down the paycuts that the buyout offer required. They could be gone within a month or two at this rate.
Was the DUI suspect in the Hofstra case injured? I don't think so. The copper sought to force the perp into submitting a blood sample, which I believe violated the perps rights.
Was Hofstra calling her supervisors to get an opinion before proceeding?
It seems to me that everyone's rights go crapped on in this incident.
I wish someone would point out to the media that it is not the taxpayer that is on the hook for Hanhardt's pension, it is the pension fund that is on the hook. That means our money is paying this d-bag of a crook. None of that money in the pension fund is city money, it is our money earned fair and square. I wish we could stop paying him but the law is the law and this has happened before.
Cops are arresting nurses and assaulting bus drivers and you guys complain that the law department settles too many cases? How the hell do you expect to find an unbiased jury with the crap your colleagues are pulling on a daily basis? And your reaction is that the media is biased? SCC, until you and the rest of the rank and file take a hard look at yourselves, stop making excuses, and demand better performance from each other, nothing will change. But maybe that's how you want it.
Think of the legit cops going to trial on BS false arrest charges in the weeks and months after these reports come out. Think of how they're affected by all this. Start demanding better from your own, and stop taking empty swings at the rest of the world.
Memo to P.O. Rodriguez -
If they're cuffed and in the back of your car - book 'em, danno.
Everyone seems to be ignoring the fact that Hanhardt, as well as the rest of us, paid significant money into the pension over the years. The city doubled his contrubutions, again significant money. It could/should be argued that it is his money, invested for a return in a pension, therefore, why shouldn't he get it? It isn't the taxpayers that are paying him, it is the pension fund. Had the newer law affected him, he would still have been entitled to his portion of contributions plus interest. The Suntimes is more off base on this than ever before. I would also like to know why, since it is not taxpayer money being used, is the Pension Board releasing our pension amounts? Salaries are clearly public records, but it doesn't seem correct that pensions should be.
he cuffed her and kept her in a squad car for 45 minutes because she refused to draw blood because they hadn't registered the guy as a patient yet? that's pretty fucking brilliant.
please tell me there is more to this story.
How many years on the job does the dumb ass who arrested an ER nurse have ???? Did he ever think she and her colleagues may be saving his life someday!!!!!!
Why bother with going through all that B.S. to prove a point to a nurse. Who like the police is here to serve the public. If a DUI subject is drunk the b.a.c will show up hours after the fact. WHAT IS THE F**KIN HURRY. WHY ARE FELLOW P.O.'S IN SUCH A HURRY TO MAKE A ASS OUT IF THE REST OF US. THANKS TOUGH GUY, WTF!!!!!
9/22/2009 02:15:00 AM
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I've worked cases where some liberal idiot nurse would stand in the way of everything the police did. The worst was when she refused to provide information and it led to a child predator getting away to Mexico. She knew the name of the idiot who brought the victim into the ER. Same guy who abused others. By the time we found the name, he was gone.
One more reason I will always hate brainless liberals.
off topic--- WARNING, WARNING,--- daley plans on laying off another 2700 city employees by the end of the year--- with this in mind do you really think the police department will see any new hires any time soon---- the patrol division is already running on fumes manpower wise--- when it comes time to take your pension and get out of this rathole you want to be mentally and physically intact--- do not get hurt on this job, wait for back up and don't take a 10-4 job in as a 99 unit with the old " i'll let you know if i need someone else" crap-- take a ride down to call back and talk to some of the light duty officers who were injured on duty--- it will be an eye opening experience for many of you young guns---
Totally fucking moronic. Is there some fucking rush to jab someone with a needle for your BAC? Would you suggest any healthcare worker start a procedure without any documentation on who they were treating? Were you under the impression that doctors and nurses are lawyer proof? Think they might be a little interested in the possibility that the patient suffers from hemophilia, AIDS, hepatitis, or cirrhosis, which is something that they could learn from a registration?
Here is a clue. If the patient is not an unconscious child, without a guardian, at death's door, healthcare workers are not going to initiate treatment.
Do yourself a favor and take your law suit like a man. You certainly need a wake up call from your dream state because you sure as hell were not acting like a police officer, and neither was your pinhead supervision.
Here is something to do when your out on the street and you feel lost and indecisive about a situation and your wondering whether it is the proper and right thing to do. It is something that my older old school brother told me.
"Either your the fucking police...or your not. Period."
i admit it, i usually read the comments sections attached to a cpd story, its hard not to
i was once the object of a mary mitchell column that was full of her usual anti-police, fact omitting bullshit
when the article appeard i contacted a department member (understand i cant say who) and asked why the department would allow itself to be so negatively portrayed when a simple press release would contradict every lie in her article and expose her for what she is
the response, "we dont want to get into a war with the media"
THE LAW SAYS YOU MAY LOCK UP /ARREST HOSPITAL PERSONNEL FOR FAILING TO DRAW THE BLOOD OF A DUI SUSPECT UPON LAW ENFORCEMENT REQUEST. HOWEVER I WOULD HAVE JUST ASKED HER OUT ON A DATE INSTEAD.
Bone head move putting an er nurse in cuffs even if she was at fault. What happened to using common sense? Whether you're right or wrong if you use common sense you'll come out on top.
How many former politiciams that were convicted and served time get pensions check I can name at least one former Gov!
WE police officers NEED to remember that when WE walk into a hospital, school, fire station; WE need to be respectful of the people who work there. that workplace is their HOME, and we don't like people telling us how to do our job, thus we SHOULDN'T be telling others how to do their job either. I have dealt with Il. Masonic Hospital's E.R. many times, and their staff has always very cooperative and accomodating to the police. so PLEASE remember, we don't like other people to tell us how to to our job...WE SHOULD not be telling other people how to do theirs, and respect their place of work. ALSO... my sister is a nurse, if she is ever call to testify in court-the hospital DOES NOT pay her for court time. so don't blame medical personnel for NOT wanting any part of D.U.I. investigations.
I hope that copper dosn't get hurt and have to go to that hospital for treatment. What an idiot.
The nurse is required by state law to draw blood on DUI offenders involved in personal injury accidents and she refused. After 4hrs of pleading and asking for a blood sample she continued to deny drawing the blood. She was the nurse in charge and the doctor referred the blood draw to her. Do you think if an officer was invovled in an accident she would have delayed the blood draw?
The lawsuit is news and the arresting officer is an idiot who had his ego bruised. He should have called for a supervisor. This was an administrative and civil issue. Once he placed cuffs on her and put her in the back of the car, only the watch commander can release her. This will cost the city money and CPD embarassement.
Hanrahan wasn't the police he was a mob plant, no pension for him. As for the other guy...are you kidding me? None of this stuff is that serious unless it's a threat to my safety! Other than that fuck it! Write the nurses name down and if during trial they ccsa feels it was serious enough to charge her, than let them worry about it and you are now covered. On a side note, I came from a nurses womb, and respect them many have been a part of my life since I was a child, but there are many now that don't treat the police well when they're brought in for injuries. I've had to visit er's 3 times over the last few years from work related injuries and have been treated horrible. Courtesy goes both ways, I would never ever write a nurse, doctor, fireman a ticket but when I need care, show me the best care you can. We all get second guessed and abused by are jobs when all we have are the best intentions, please remember that when we come to you broken.
What kind of idiot arrest an ER nurse?? For what? Who in the hell does he think he is? Obama. I'd sue his dumb ass too. He should be canned immediately. Can you say power play from a weenie.
Personally the cop involved should have used his discretion and NOT arrested the nurse. He was asking for trouble and found it.
Now can we please get back to hating on Daley?
9/22/2009 12:25:00 AM
Supervisor was on scene, he made the call. It has always been an issue. By law, if the victim goes to the hospital on a stretcher, the DUI offender CANNOT refuse chemical tests.
Here is where you run into problems. The hospitals do not wan't to get sued, so they do not draw blood, unless the offender signs a consent, which 90% of the time the offender will not do.
Give the policeman a break, he was working, going through the motions of the blood draw (which 90% of coppers won't do.)
I new, at some point, this was going to happen. You bring a DUI offender to the hospital and the hospitals do not want anything to do with it. It's much easier to do a refusal.
The copper is demonized in the press because he arrested a nurse, because he was just doing his job processing a DUI offender, so the nurse can win millions from the deep pockets of the taxpayers.
How much time does that copper have on the job?
I know lisa and I'm married to a cop. let's just say she leaves a lot to be desired as a person and as a nurse. She is an embarrassment to Illinois masonic. She refused several times and kept giving the cop the run around (one time the reply was she was just too busy). This was someone who directly witnessed it in the ER IT takes a few minutes to register someone. all she had to do was to ask admissions to admit this patient next due to circumstances and draw the blood in the meantime. She also claimed that Immc was out of DUI kits which was true. However, she could have asked the cop to locate one a another hospital and have it brought over. But she would have to try to have a good working relationship with the officer which obviously didn't try. She gave the cop a run around and she paid the price. If it was your relative that was injured, you would be suing the department for not following the laws. St. Joes is right down the street. Illinois law will rule over hospital policy any day. Illinois Masonic ER (This is the hospital where I am employed at and work directly with ER on almost all my admissions to the floor) is notoriously known for being difficult with cops. I witnessed this myself when my husband showed in uniform up at ER to meet me when I was sick in my pregnancy. The staff and security where equally as rude. If fact he had to have his partner come and retrieve some clothes for him to change into so to stop this behavior by staff in er and focus on my health. Northwestern, St Joesph, St Mary's do not have this problem with chicago pd. Maybe Advocate needs to look at how they train their nurses and adopt policy to reflect illinois law. We has nurses like to be controlling when it comes to our patients as the cops like to be in control of their prisoners. This person was under arrest for suspicion of dui. They don't have the same rights as the average patient. I just hope the rest of the cpd realizes that the floor nurses do not feel the same as Lisa or behave like she does. I also keep trying to explain to my fellow employees that she was lucky that she wasn't charged with obstruction of official police investigation like the law requires and this cop has now hurt himself more by letting her go. Now he really regrets not charging her.
"And why shouldn't a crooked cop get his pension? We have a crooked Mayor and he still gets his paycheck.
Which is worse?"
One word : CONVICTED
Someone identifying himself as the officer involved called into Don and Roma on AM 890 this morning and stated that the DUI was brought in at 4:30 and didn't get the blood drawn until 7:00. He also stated that the accident in which the suspected DUI driver was involved in, resulted in a FATALITY. I'd say he has a good case for urgency in getting the blood draw.
The list of hospitals that i would want to treat my gunshot wound has shrunk again. Thanks asshat! I hope the O T checks from sandbaggin yuppies is worth it.
I hate to be the one that has to point this out after each SCC posting, but please stop "trying to make a difference".
Officer, you are softer than puppy shit ! Shame on you ! It sounds like you needed the blood test to find out what was making you so fuckin goofy !!!!!
OT
An incredibly good article on how our judges or picked. Everyone should read this. The article is called "Inside the beast: How Cook County judges are elected" in the Sun-Times.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1778703,CST-NWS-judges20web.article
When I came on, one of the first things my FTO told me was to always take care of other cops, doctors and nurses. He also told me to screw with firemen every chance I got, but I digress... I don't know what the real story is, but it seems like some real bad descions were made that night. Haven't been there for a while, but the Il Masonic staff was always pretty good to us in the past.
Don't do a fucking thing . Wake up you guys.
That nurse's lawyer is the same P.O.S. who got my city's $50K for a f-ing biatch who resisted arrest and the City did not want to fight, but rather settle it. This lawyer is a leech who lives off of crap like this lawsuit.
This isn't your daddy's police department anymore.
Wow....Lot of non police responding here.
I would love to hear what got the nurse cuffed in the first place. I guess it would too much to ask a reporter to print a whole story.
about that nurse, the cop was waiting for 3 hours and was asking her when can he get some blood done on this guy... this nurse was doing the race card on him. the dude that the cop had just killed someone driving drunk, he was refusing everything, his bosses told the hospital to draw blood so they can use that in court. in the ved u can see the cop walking around asking her to draw blood for 3 fucken hours... this is why i dont give a fuck about anything anymore... fuck this world and this city...
Man we are so quick to burry our own. It's so sad!! I do not know this guy and have never worked up north, but I sure as hell feel sorry for him and the last thing I would do is bad mouth him. I have seen you guys defend coppers for taking money quicker than you defend this poor guy. Man I need to win the lottery and leave this damn job!! Oh and buy the way before some idiot asks how much time I have on the job it's 17yrs. For some reason everybody likes asking that question. I know people with 30yrs on and still don't know how to load their gun, so I don't know what legitimacy that question answers.
Anonymous said...
Cops are arresting nurses and assaulting bus drivers and you guys complain that the law department settles too many cases? How the hell do you expect to find an unbiased jury with the crap your colleagues are pulling on a daily basis? And your reaction is that the media is biased? SCC, until you and the rest of the rank and file take a hard look at yourselves, stop making excuses, and demand better performance from each other, nothing will change. But maybe that's how you want it.
Think of the legit cops going to trial on BS false arrest charges in the weeks and months after these reports come out. Think of how they're affected by all this. Start demanding better from your own, and stop taking empty swings at the rest of the world.
9/22/2009 08:25:00 AM
Hey you troll POS, both of your mentioned cases are under investigation. Maybe they were bonehead moves, but you weren't there and don't have the qualifications to either judge or monday morning QB any PO. Get of a copper's blog and stfu!
I know the cop and the nurse and also have been to Illinois Masonic many times. MR is a good cop especially with dui's. He just made a bad judgment call. But time was of the essence because it was a fatal dui.
The nurse is a bitch. She is only part of a small group because many of the other nurses are courteous and helpful. The doctors on the other hand many of them are assholes. The best doctor is Michele Mellett. She worked on Rick Francis for 3hrs.
The midnight security at the hospital are all good peoples. The Lt on down are helpful and friendly. George (LL cool J)is good guy. I was on a prisoner detail 99 and the prisoner was being a jag-off and he helped me get him under control.
RIP Rick Francis
Ex-019 district
If you place someone in handcuffs in the back seat of your squad car and hold them for 45 minutes, you have made an arrest. Bring them into the station and do the paperwork. Never let anyone go without the proper paperwork,i.e. CB#, in this situation. It will bite you in the ass every time.
Hospitals are notorious for NOT helping Police in investigations! There were many times Illinois Masonic Hospital flat out refused Officers requests for assistance!
I myself was told be an Emergency room doctor: Don't get shot and come to my E.R. You won't make it! Then the little bitch Doctor ran off like the Liberal scum that she is!
"That nurse's lawyer is the same P.O.S. who got my city's $50K for a f-ing biatch who resisted arrest and the City did not want to fight, but rather settle it. This lawyer is a leech who lives off of crap like this lawsuit."
HEY MORON, IF THE CITY TAKES IT COURT & LOSES GUESS WHO PAYS THE DAMAGES? YOU GOING WRITE THEM A CHECK? F'NG STOOP
How long did it take to get Bolling's blood?
Oh right, 8 hours and no arrests.
Anonymous said...
about that nurse, the cop was waiting for 3 hours and was asking her when can he get some blood done on this guy... this nurse was doing the race card on him. the dude that the cop had just killed someone driving drunk, he was refusing everything, his bosses told the hospital to draw blood so they can use that in court. in the ved u can see the cop walking around asking her to draw blood for 3 fucken hours... this is why i dont give a fuck about anything anymore... fuck this world and this city...
9/22/2009 04:25:00 PM
There are procedures to follow when a fatal accident is involved. Arresting the nurse is not an option unless ordered by court. If you encounter resistence then contact felony review and MAIU. But do not arrest the nurse. Then hold her hostage and release her. WTF!
No, no, no! You can detain someone for investigation, which includes hand cuffs and the back of your car. I am a lawyer. She was detained and apparently being investigated, please learn your profession. Being white and a female does not change the rules.
I've dealt with Ill Masonic as a dick for 15 years and they always have been easy and professional to work with. To the contrary, Northwestern Hospital downtown are a bunch of jags. They have a policy that detectives HAVE to be escorted to patient rooms by their flunky security. But mookie pookie, t bone, G Money ect all can walk up unescorted. We have been trying to get this shit straighten out for years, nothing ever changes. A few years ago a guard nearly got locked up for trying to keep a dick off the elevator!
Yes the patient has to be resgistered but that takes like five minutes. The charge nurse could have ordered registration there next. This nurse kept refusing and stalling bottom line and got taught a lesson. She should be thankful that the head of nursing Susan nordstram convince them to let her go. I can admit our ER is notoriously bad to cops. I have witnessed it first hand. They had a right to arrest her and she was lucky to be let go. I have explained this to other nurses. Law will go over hospital policy anytime in court. This person was not that experienced. Just because your charge for a night doesn't mean you know much. Often unless they are management which she is not it is just another nurse that is in charge of assignment only and calling nursing supervisor for real problems. So please guys I wouldn't have that much sympathy for her. Advocate did an awful job of training staff to follow laws. Maybe she should sue employer.
Typical...most of you making assumptions and condemning someone without all the facts. I hope I never work with any of you judgemental asses who would rather look the other way than do your job. Its not always easy to do what you are paid to do. That nurse obviously was super glued to her pedastool (LOL)and continues to be with uniformed idiots cheering her on. I can look away a lot of the time but this was a serious sitution. I am just pissed that she was never booked. That officer and his supervisors second guessed themselves and now they get screwed. In your gut we know what is right and what is wrong..follow through always. Let the judge throw it out. I don't write cetain people because yes we have to work together and get along but when do these people start owning up to their mistakes and get treated like individuals.
WHERE DO WE DRAW THE LINE!!!!?
Parkers, movers, anovs, I give a crap, those are easy to give a pass on, but not a criminal act that affects another human being.
Officers you are the police....you enforce the law.....the law is for everyone.
I'am not a nurse, but I'am a Police Officer & there are always 2 stories to be told...but she got a lawyer and got on the news!!! All this Officer can do is tell his story and without a lawyer and not on the news!!!! First thing that jumped to me was her saying that she got along with the police since she started, NOV 2008!!! Wow not even a year!! Guess what honey? I got along with my ex-husband longer then that!! Don't jump on this Officer till all is told!!! We were not there!!! She is seeing $$$$ Not him!
The law regarding DUI blood draws states describes the subject having their blood drawn as a "patient"... i.e. a person admitted for care. I'm curious about the police side of this story, not sure what caused the officer to hold her for 45 minutes. Hopefully more info comes out soon!
Also:
"We has nurses like to be controlling when it comes to our patients as the cops like to be in control of their prisoners."
If you're so impressed with St. Joe's, why are you still at IMMC?
The Sun-Times did an in-depth article on Ed Burke and the slating of candidates running for judge in Cook County. Did you know 50% of judges elected are Irish women? Interesting read!
Inside The Beast: How Cook County Judges Are Elected
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/
1778703,CST-NWS-judges20web.article
I still will give all nurses, doctors and p/o's a play but fuck Illiniois Masonic. I went there in the last month to follow up on a pretty serious accident. Not one of them, E/R nurses or DR's would say a thing about the condition of the guy injured. I left the Traffic Crash Report on a table and walked out. Thanks to all the staff at St. Mary's and Norwegian Amer. Hosp.
Nurse hits ghetto lottery. Oops CPD lottery
about that nurse, the cop was waiting for 3 hours and was asking her when can he get some blood done on this guy... this nurse was doing the race card on him. the dude that the cop had just killed someone driving drunk, he was refusing everything, his bosses told the hospital to draw blood so they can use that in court. in the ved u can see the cop walking around asking her to draw blood for 3 fucken hours... this is why i dont give a fuck about anything anymore... fuck this world and this city...
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bullshit...trust me
I can't believe how many posters are siding with the nurse here! I hope you are mostly not coppers, and to those that are I hope you don't ride on my jobs! You play right into the media's hand, how pathetic. No wonder the public treats us like shit, when we treat each other the same way.
I never write nurses or doctors, and always am very respectful of them. This inspite of how many times I've dealt with the ones that were liberal jerk-offs, trying to dictate how I do my job. And many others who treated me like a second-class citizen for no reason.
FACT: State law says the hospital must draw or face arrest. And it was a fatal crash off'r. Sounds like the mistake here was the nurse not cooperating, and then that once the bracelets were on she should've gotten a CB#. Could always RWOC after that if WC wants to. Lay off the copper, he did his job and still tried to cut this idiot nurse a break - and now she will capitalize on it for a paycheck, typical asshole!
Well, putting the nurse in cuffs was a dumb fuck move anyway.....I suppose she was cuffed and in the back of a squad for 45 min but was never under arrest, LOL, sounds like she was to me.....get ready to lose this lawsuit.
Face it, there are too many idiots on CPD.
--Do you know both sides of the story? you probably know nothing about processing a DUI so STFU!
I agree about NWMH. Not fans of the CPD. I (dick) was once on a floor with my partner and two uniformed P.O.'s (checkerboard hats & all). The staff was miffed that we weren't escorted by Hosp. security. (Please) I think it stems from the "Robert Russ incident". If I am shot in the line of duty, I'd gladly share a room with some banger at Mt. Sinai or St. Roger to avoid Northwestern. They can keep their Lake Michigan view. Overrated.
You all are sure quick to judge the officer. I have been given a hard time PLENTY of times by nurses who won't even acknowledge the police when they walk into an ER and try to get information on a patient/job that they are there to process.
2 1/2 hours is a bit much. Nurses don't like to draw blood because then they have to testify.
BLAKE WHOREAWITS is a leech and specializes in suing the city. This is his M.O. call a press conference; parade the victims of CPD all over the news, demands 1 Bazillion dollars and settles for just under 30G plus his fees(usually more than settelment).
He and firms like his are what’s wrong with this F'd Up system in the Northern District Courts... not to mention the Federal judges that allow his B.S. in their courts, with their in chambers private meetings with plaintiffs(judge G. a.k.a. LURCH) wonder what's their cut? 10-20%?
Sounds like there's more to this story, this b*tch had it coming and he cut her a break and it bit him in the ass.
We are the first to judge this copper who was just doing his job. We used to back each other to the grave, now we can’t wait to throw each other under the bus.
Sad days when your back up is worst enemy...
Just after the kid pretended to be the police I read a really funny post about the Olympics.
It went something like:
Terrorist in Police Uniform - I'm P.O. Muhammad here from the 004 District for the Olympic detail
Checkpoint P.O. - OK
Terrorist in Police Uniform - Is Sgt Jones from 004 here?
Checkpoint P.O. - Who? Jones, yeah he's here.
Terrorist in Police Uniform - OK, thanks.
Checkpoint P.O. - hey, Muhammad...What's in the backpack?
Terrorist in Police Uniform - my Lunch!
No, no, no! You can detain someone for investigation, which includes hand cuffs and the back of your car. I am a lawyer. She was detained and apparently being investigated, please learn your profession. Being white and a female does not change the rules.
BULLSHIT!!!! You can't even use the "officer safety" excuse for this one.
The nurse is required by state law to draw blood on DUI offenders involved in personal injury accidents and she refused. After 4hrs of pleading and asking for a blood sample she continued to deny drawing the blood. She was the nurse in charge and the doctor referred the blood draw to her. Do you think if an officer was invovled in an accident she would have delayed the blood draw?
Learn the law anyone can refuse to give blood under any circumstances. Even if there is a fatality. The only way you can LEGALLY draw blood is if the offender gives consent or if he/she is not conscious and you have read the warning to motorist to them.
FACT: State law says the hospital must draw or face arrest. And it was a fatal crash off'r. Sounds like the mistake here was the nurse not cooperating, and then that once the bracelets were on she should've gotten a CB#. Could always RWOC after that if WC wants to. Lay off the copper, he did his job and still tried to cut this idiot nurse a break - and now she will capitalize on it for a paycheck, typical asshole!
9/22/2009 10:54:00 PM
Why did the officers back down and not continue with the arrest? Any white shirts on the scene? Did they contact MAIU or the watch commander? Why should the officer face this heat alone unless he acted alone? Never arrest then release on the scene. That officer left himslef wide open for a lawsuit.
To I know lisa and I'm married to a cop. let's just say she leaves a lot to be desired as a person and as a nurse. She is an embarrassment to Illinois masonic. She refused several times and kept giving the cop the run around (one time the reply was she was just too busy). This was someone who directly witnessed it in the ER IT takes a few minutes to register someone. all she had to do was to ask admissions to admit this patient next due to circumstances and draw the blood in the meantime
It would probably be helpful to the P.O. involved if you would contact the FOP and let them know you would testify for him. I beleive that the only mistake he made was not charging the nurse.
Come on guy's........ don't lock up nurses.....
If it wasn't for nurses and waitresses police would never go on dates...
Yeah you guys are really quick to judge the copper. Most of you bitch about people not doing their job, laying down, and not making decisions, and now you have a blue shirt and maybe a Sergeant taking decisive action and you condemn them. I am retired and have forgotten a lot of law and procedure, but if the law requires the nurse/hospital to draw blood, then as far as I can see the only mistake that was made was releasing her after she was clearly under arrest, by being placed in handcuffs and in a police car. She should have either been charged or released in the proper manner by the Watch Commander.
I work in 019 on midnights. I have for years. Longer then about everyone stating there opinion here.
The nurses and doctors often give us the cold shoulder this is nothing new. There have been several run ins at the hospital which most of you 5 year know it alls know nothing about!
MR not the sharpest tool in the shed, and I think he used poor judgement. But its to late now let the city shell out some more cash and lets move on...
Common sense is not the strong point of this its who you know and blow department...
When I hit 20 years I am gone, department will never change still run by favortism and who you know.
If you hook 'em up, you best lock 'em up, else it will bite you in the ass, especially if every move is on tape.
WE police officers NEED to remember that when WE walk into a hospital, school, fire station; WE need to be respectful of the people who work there. that workplace is their HOME, and we don't like people telling us how to do our job, thus we SHOULDN'T be telling others how to do their job either. I have dealt with Il. Masonic Hospital's E.R. many times, and their staff has always very cooperative and accomodating to the police. so PLEASE remember, we don't like other people to tell us how to to our job...WE SHOULD not be telling other people how to do theirs, and respect their place of work. ALSO... my sister is a nurse, if she is ever call to testify in court-the hospital DOES NOT pay her for court time. so don't blame medical personnel for NOT wanting any part of D.U.I. investigations.
9/22/2009 11:02:00 AM
Well then partner THEY need to be alittle more respectful to US! I cannot tell you the countless times nurses and doctors alike have treated MYSELF and US like pieces of garbage. Dont give me this bullshit "we gotta respect their house, we're in their house" nonsense. Every copper I've seen in a hospital that I know of has shown the uttmost respect for hospital personnel. It is only when you get the attitudes and looks of disgust along with waiting 3 to 4 hours with a handcuffed prisoner that some cops might get testy. Im not saying that every nurse, doctor or hospital staffer is a hater, but there is a good majority that are.....more than half. Namely Christ hosptial. . Never had any problems at Little Company of Mary or Holy Cross(believe it or not). Oh and by the way i have a family member who is a nurse at a major hospital.
cop called wls am don wade and roma
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I've worked cases where some liberal idiot nurse would stand in the way of everything the police did. The worst was when she refused to provide information and it led to a child predator getting away to Mexico. She knew the name of the idiot who brought the victim into the ER. Same guy who abused others. By the time we found the name, he was gone.
One more reason I will always hate brainless liberals.
9/22/2009 09:17:00 AM
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In light of the bashing, do you ever stop to think? WHO CARES if a DUI suspect gets away??? Its the criminals policing the police!! Wake up and smell the lawsuits!
"I beleive that the only mistake he made was not charging the nurse."
I believe I'll have another beer. Perhaps two more and my thinking and spelling abilities will go to hell like yours.
Those of you who are cops and are trying to justify this "arrest" are eejits.
Those of you who are cop wannabees and are trying to justify it are eejits.
Policing is a tough business. This bozo and this "arrest" made it a teeny bit tougher.
I recall hearing an instructor way back in my academy days, when dinosaurs roamed Jackson Blvd, talk about "John Wayne Syndrome".
That can refer to a cop who doesn't use "discretion".
I expect the politicians to screw us. I expect civilians won't generally understand what it's like to be an urban cop. I even expect cops will do stupid stuff once in awhile.
This is the latter. The idea that no matter what a cop does on duty, or sometimes off, means he automatically has to be supported is bullshit.
Arresting a nurse, and she was in custody, because she wouldn't draw blood is silly, silly, silly.
My dad, who started as a Park District cop back before they merged with CPD looked at the video and called me. I won't type the string of profanities he let lose most of which questioned the IQ of the cop involved. Of course after mom died he married a nurse so he might be a bit biased.
Can nurses be jerks sometimes? Yep.
Can cops be jerks sometimes?
Yep.
Can I be a jerk sometimes?
I am being one right now.
A supervisor should have been called to make a decision. If one didn't show up then the other cops on the scene should have taken Officer John Wayne over to the cafeteria to get a candy bar to bring up his obviously low blood sugar.
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To I know lisa and I'm married to a cop. let's just say she leaves a lot to be desired as a person and as a nurse. She is an embarrassment to Illinois masonic. She refused several times and kept giving the cop the run around (one time the reply was she was just too busy). This was someone who directly witnessed it in the ER IT takes a few minutes to register someone. all she had to do was to ask admissions to admit this patient next due to circumstances and draw the blood in the meantime
It would probably be helpful to the P.O. involved if you would contact the FOP and let them know you would testify for him. I beleive that the only mistake he made was not charging the nurse.
unfortunately I am probably not the best nurse to testify because I do not currently work in ER,. They need to find an ER nurse who can testify as an expert. I believe a nursing professor from truman Polly Zimmerman has testified for courts worked in ER over 13 years. She has also wrote questions for our licensing exam. That is who fop needs to contact regarding expert testimony. So there fop I handed in a gift bag who to contact. I know lisa at work and spoke to an er tech who witnessed the whole thing and that person didn't understand why she kept stalling. There was 3 unstable traumas but there is a nursing supervisor she could have called to ask to come help. All the fop needs to do is call techs and staff to answer questions. ER does have more than 3 nursed at night and several members of trauma team of physicians that are perfectly able to handle the unstable trauma allowing for one nurse to be free. The need to pull the staffing numbers at the time to prove this and pull the number of r residents and attending physicians of trauma. Those residents were at the bedside of the traumas along with trauma attending. There are also a number doctors assigned to non trauma patients along with physician assistants to prove that one person could have assisted. In fact i think the person killed was at the er also, so staff new how important this was. Also ER techs are often paramedics and have the skill to draw blood.
FACT: State law says the hospital must draw or face arrest.
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Post the statute please.
No hard time here, just want to read the statute.
Was the DUI suspect in the Hofstra case injured? I don't think so. The copper sought to force the perp into submitting a blood sample, which I believe violated the perps rights.
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What, are we in New York all of a sudden?
We call them "offenders" here. Goof.
The nurse probaly talked her self into cuffs or refused to help when asked then told to help! I am sure P O stuggled with this decision the P O probably gave plenty of chances but once you decide to lock her up do it! I am sure the last thing on his mind was an AR so I give him the benefit of the doubt but always follow through! Let the watch commander release with out charging once in cuff make the arrest would have saved many a P O from lawsuits.
I never write nurses or doctors, and always am very respectful of them. This in spite of how many times I've dealt with the ones that were liberal jerk-offs, trying to dictate how I do my job. And many others who treated me like a second-class citizen for no reason.
--Been there. At times I have gone in and stood at the desk in front of a nurse and they refuse to even look up and acknowledge that I am there.
I will treat them how they treat me.
Most of the nurses and Dr.'s are professional as they should be. But some are just assholes!
to all you dumb ass coppers who think he shouldn't arrested that stupid liberal after she wouldn't do the dui kit after 4hours. she told the officer that she would not do it. the officer had no choice but to arrest her and it was his supervisor who told him to release her, another briliant white shirt who is scared to be a supervisor and back his officer. the victim is brain dead and state law requires an involuntary blood draw. this fuckin nurse obstructed an investigation. I am glad that this officer had enough balls to do his job to get the evidence. Maybe it could have being one of our own in there brain dead or a family member. the nurse should of done her job!! an il masonic is anti police.
in know MR and he's a good cop. written a TON of dui's. i do not know the nurse.
i also know from the story that the nurse was cuffed and put in a squad car for 45 minutes. now she's sueing, looking for $$$.
does anyone really and honestly think the nurse deserves thousands of $ because she was handcuffed and put in a squad car for 45 minutes?
how about the goof you stop a few blocks from a scene, stop him, search him, cuff him, run his name, and drive him back for the show up, only to find it negative. you've just wasted 20 minutes of his time. think he deserves some of the same money as the nurse?
You all are sure quick to judge the officer. I have been given a hard time PLENTY of times by nurses who won't even acknowledge the police when they walk into an ER and try to get information on a patient/job that they are there to process.
2 1/2 hours is a bit much. Nurses don't like to draw blood because then they have to testify.
9/22/2009 11:37:00 PM
You sound like you are on a personal crusade to bring justice to the world. You sound like a fool.
You have a job to do. Why do you give a fuck if the nurses like you? Why do you care if it takes a long time to get the blood? Are you afraid your drunk prisoner's BAC will fall from .08 to .075? And even if it does, WHO CARES?
There are too many fools on this job who want to be loved. This is a job. Nothing more.
Anybody read the Department Law Bulletin 2007-01? Look it up, and read the very first paragraph.
Since there seems to be quite a bit of confusion regarding whether the DUI arrestee can refuse a blood draw or other chemical test following a fatal or serious injury crash, please read the statute from the IVC as posted below. To summarize, the person CANNOT refuse, and can be held down and a needle stuck in his arm without his consent in this circumstance. Personally, even though the statute says that they cannot refuse, I would not go so far as to forcibly take blood from someone who is resisting it. I would call the on-duty judge and see if I could get him to issue a court order. Only then would I be comfortable having the guy stuck with a needle while he's tied down. Lawsuit? No for me.
Excerpt from Illinois Vehicle Code:
(625 ILCS 5/11‑501.2) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11‑501.2)
Sec. 11‑501.2. Chemical and other tests.
2. Notwithstanding any ability to refuse under this Code to submit to these tests or any ability to revoke the implied consent to these tests, if a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a motor vehicle driven by or in actual physical control of a person under the influence of alcohol, other drug or drugs, or intoxicating compound or compounds, or any combination thereof has caused the death or personal injury to another, that person SHALL SUBMIT, upon the request of a law enforcement officer, to a chemical test or tests of his or her blood, breath or urine for the purpose of determining the alcohol content thereof or the presence of any other drug or combination of both.
As a street sgt in 019, I can tell you for a fact that in the past 3 yrs plus if any off duty po arrives in E.R even as a one car/accident incident where only he and his car vs pole/curb/pothole whatever, the blood is drawn without subject being informed that alcohol/drug screen is being done stat and they phone W/C immediately to beef and demand DUI processing when results are positive,,,Masonic E R staff is never too busy then, nor does patient privacy rules apply. Amazing set of double standards they have going there. Just saying, that nurse making officer wait 3 to 4 hrs for stat service on a DUI that just killed someone and then she has the nerve to smile and giggle for the cameras. I hope this officer countersues as I don't see how he can lose! Yes she is one liberal superbitch and yet surely has the multi million malpractice insurance policy so hope the victims family goes after her as well. PS the bosses above this po know better if you cuff em, cb em, document facts, then W/C can review and release without charging if they wish, but it would better serve all involved to see incident thru once cuffs on, as a bitch like that turned loose is for sure going to beef no matter how wrong she is. Officer pick a very good lawyer if you haven't already, do not rely on CPD
unfortunately I am probably not the best nurse to testify because I do not currently work in ER,. They need to find an ER nurse who can testify as an expert. I believe a nursing professor from truman Polly Zimmerman has testified for courts worked in ER over 13 years. She has also wrote questions for our licensing exam. That is who fop needs to contact regarding expert testimony. So there fop I handed in a gift bag who to contact. I know lisa at work and spoke to an er tech who witnessed the whole thing and that person didn't understand why she kept stalling. There was 3 unstable traumas but there is a nursing supervisor she could have called to ask to come help. All the fop needs to do is call techs and staff to answer questions. ER does have more than 3 nursed at night and several members of trauma team of physicians that are perfectly able to handle the unstable trauma allowing for one nurse to be free. The need to pull the staffing numbers at the time to prove this and pull the number of r residents and attending physicians of trauma. Those residents were at the bedside of the traumas along with trauma attending. There are also a number doctors assigned to non trauma patients along with physician assistants to prove that one person could have assisted. In fact i think the person killed was at the er also, so staff new how important this was. Also ER techs are often paramedics and have the skill to draw blood.
9/23/2009 01:11:00 PM
Great post 1:11.
The nurse was WRONG on all counts. No question. I hope she broils on the witness stand because no matter how they frame this she did not do her job. The family of the deceased should sue HER. The lawyer is just looking for a settlement and when it doesn't happen, lil Lisa is going to be put out to dry in court.
Can the family go after her in civil suit as an accomplice for hampering the police investigation?
Why didn't the officer go to another ER? If the fatality was brought to Masonic-the DUI should go to another hospital?? unless it is CPD policy to keep them together?
Since there seems to be quite a bit of confusion regarding whether the DUI arrestee can refuse a blood draw or other chemical test following a fatal or serious injury crash, please read the statute from the IVC as posted below. To summarize, the person CANNOT refuse, and can be held down and a needle stuck in his arm without his consent in this circumstance. Personally, even though the statute says that they cannot refuse, I would not go so far as to forcibly take blood from someone who is resisting it. I would call the on-duty judge and see if I could get him to issue a court order. Only then would I be comfortable having the guy stuck with a needle while he's tied down. Lawsuit? No for me.
Excerpt from Illinois Vehicle Code:
(625 ILCS 5/11‑501.2) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11‑501.2)
Sec. 11‑501.2. Chemical and other tests.
2. Notwithstanding any ability to refuse under this Code to submit to these tests or any ability to revoke the implied consent to these tests, if a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a motor vehicle driven by or in actual physical control of a person under the influence of alcohol, other drug or drugs, or intoxicating compound or compounds, or any combination thereof has caused the death or personal injury to another, that person SHALL SUBMIT, upon the request of a law enforcement officer, to a chemical test or tests of his or her blood, breath or urine for the purpose of determining the alcohol content thereof or the presence of any other drug or combination of both.
SHALL SUBMIT, but what if they don't SUBMIT? Where does it say we can forcefully take blood? that's the whole purpose of the refusel box anyone driving on the road must submit to chemical tests, but if they refuse they refuse. Like you said call a judge or better yet maiu and let them deal with it.
Since there seems to be quite a bit of confusion regarding whether the DUI arrestee can refuse a blood draw or other chemical test following a fatal or serious injury crash, please read the statute from the IVC as posted below. To summarize, the person CANNOT refuse, and can be held down and a needle stuck in his arm without his consent in this circumstance. Personally, even though the statute says that they cannot refuse, I would not go so far as to forcibly take blood from someone who is resisting it. I would call the on-duty judge and see if I could get him to issue a court order. Only then would I be comfortable having the guy stuck with a needle while he's tied down. Lawsuit? No for me.
Excerpt from Illinois Vehicle Code:
(625 ILCS 5/11‑501.2) (from Ch. 95 1/2, par. 11‑501.2)
Sec. 11‑501.2. Chemical and other tests.
2. Notwithstanding any ability to refuse under this Code to submit to these tests or any ability to revoke the implied consent to these tests, if a law enforcement officer has probable cause to believe that a motor vehicle driven by or in actual physical control of a person under the influence of alcohol, other drug or drugs, or intoxicating compound or compounds, or any combination thereof has caused the death or personal injury to another, that person SHALL SUBMIT, upon the request of a law enforcement officer, to a chemical test or tests of his or her blood, breath or urine for the purpose of determining the alcohol content thereof or the presence of any other drug or combination of both.
I have read this several times and I can't find where it says they cannot refuse. The law states that a driver must submit to all chemical tests when an officer has probable cause. that's why the suspension is so much longer if they refuse.
This person was under arrest for suspicion of dui. They don't have the same rights as the average patient. I just hope the rest of the cpd realizes that the floor nurses do not feel the same as Lisa or behave like she does. I also keep trying to explain to my fellow employees that she was lucky that she wasn't charged with obstruction of official police investigation like the law requires and this cop has now hurt himself more by letting her go. Now he really regrets not charging her.
9/22/2009 01:49:00 PM
Thank you for the honest feedback. The officer had options but let his emotions take over. I would have went over her head to a supervisior to facilitate the admission process. I sympathize with the officer but he never should have released without charging. Too bad a real sgt was not present to guide this officer.
9/22/2009 01:49:00 PM
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excellent post. im disgusted at reading these posts coming from coppers bad mouthing this guy w/o knowing the whole story. im glad there are nurses out there who like the police because UIC ER on midnights sure the fuck doesn't it seems.
"SHALL SUBMIT, but what if they don't SUBMIT? Where does it say we can forcefully take blood?"
I believe the intent of the legislature, as far as this subsection under 11.501, was specifically for those DUI offenders who caused serious injury or death to another while operating a motor vehicle, and to require them to submit to chemical tests with no option of refusing. The problem as I see it is that the statute doesn't clearly give any guidance to the law enforcement officer on how to proceed in such a case. I remember when this law was first passed and everyone was saying that they would get hospital security to hold the offender down in leather restraints while blood was drawn. While that may have been the intent, I never would have done that. I would have gone with the attempt to get a court order, but without one, holding someone down who is refusing just begs for a lawsuit. Damn politicians can't get anything right.
The law talks about the duty of the motorist, not the duty of the medical staff. Speaking of the duty of the medical staff, their duty is to their patients.
Listen, if you go to the E/R, you get triaged. People are dying in there! If triage says you gotta wait, You Just Gotta Wait.
The medical staff are potentially liable for a serious tort if they should provide this "care" to the driver despite his refusal. If the police need blood work done, the police should either be willing to employ the staff to do it, or they should be willing to work with the CIVILIAN medical staff.
I know it's not as adrenaline-rushy as the other stuff people are ranting on here...sorry about that.
You sound like you are on a personal crusade to bring justice to the world. You sound like a fool.
--And you sound like a do nothing idiot that is only concerned about YOU. Nobody said anything about being liked by the staff at the hospitals but I have a job to do and I do it professionally AND SO SHOULD THEY. To be acknowledged and given the information I need to do my job is all I ask for. Don't want to sit and have coffee with them.
I don't enjoy hanging in hospitals with all the nastiness around there. Get me in so I can get out and go have my coffee elsewhere.
So......GFY! Why don't you do your job promptly so the rest of us don't have to pick up your slack dog ass.
my sister is a nurse, if she is ever call to testify in court-the hospital DOES NOT pay her for court time. so don't blame medical personnel for NOT wanting any part of D.U.I. investigations.
--This is why the nurses give PO's a hard time when it comes to DUI's. Well too F*in Bad if they don't get paid for court. It's obstructing if they refuse to draw blood. NOBODY walks in there to TELL them how to do their job, but we ASK for their assistance to do our job. Should I never make an arrest because I don't want to be bothered going to court??? Gimme a break! Boo F*in Hoo for the nurses.
The ER nurse called in to Don & Roma this morning. Of course her attorney was on the line also. She was rambling and sounded very nervous. She stated that the hospital, and surrounding hospitals had no kits in stock. I was hoping Don or Roma would ask why she didn't tell the officer this immediately so that he may be able to figure out some type of backup plan. Of course they did not ask her. Also, something Don said bothered me and caused me to change the channel for good. He asked if anyone thought of doing a test on the officer to see if he had been drinking. Don, Roma, the nurse and her attorney were all chuckling.
I write a lot of DUIs and from my experience, offenders arrested for a DUI can refuse any chemical testing even if it involves a serious personal injury accident or death...however, having said that, if the hospital does draw blood as part of the individual's medical treatment, those records can be subpoenaed (spelling) by the ASA and entered as evidence in the DUI case...you cannot forcibly draw a person's blood...if you do that, the smarmy defense attorney will get it tossed as you have now "violated" the poor asshole's rights..that is why in some other counties, they have a judge on hand to sign a warrant to obtain an offender's blood/alcohol draw during their roadside safety checks so even if the offender refuses, too bad so sad the police get the testing done right then and there....too bad Chicago won't follow suit...
The ER nurse called in to Don & Roma this morning. Of course her attorney was on the line also. She was rambling and sounded very nervous. She stated that the hospital, and surrounding hospitals had no kits in stock. I was hoping Don or Roma would ask why she didn't tell the officer this immediately so that he may be able to figure out some type of backup plan. Of course they did not ask her. Also, something Don said bothered me and caused me to change the channel for good. He asked if anyone thought of doing a test on the officer to see if he had been drinking. Don, Roma, the nurse and her attorney were all chuckling.
9/25/2009 12:07:00 AM
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Ya, I heard that. Her story was rambling, full of hesitation, and she never gave the exact chronological, simple to understand version of what exactly happened.
It is not that hard to give a simple 3 sentence re-cap of what happened. She couln't, or wouldn't do it. That's a red flag.
And, yes, I am one of the posters who busted on the cop immediately for arresting her. I still do. I think it was a stupid arrest. But what makes it worse is that is ways 1/2 of an arrest. If you got the balls to put the cuffs on her, especially ager 3 hours of stewing in your juices and thinking about how much of a cunt this nurse was, you follow-through and throw her in lock up.
How about this: All you 019th Dist guys just start dropping of shitheads who are in need of medical attention at Illinois Masonic on midnites.
Get the real stinky ones that wear the plastic bread bags over their feet in the winter.
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