This Might Explain Something
We wonder if Daley or his people have been taking cues from the news lately:
New York City is heading toward a record low number of murders this year, and overall crime is also down, the New York Police Department said Friday.
The NYPD projects about 457 murders this year, the lowest total since the department first started keeping records in 1962.
And overall crime is down nearly 12 percent from 2008 and 40 percent since 2001, the NYPD said.
The downward trend is mystifying criminologists who say crime usually rises when times are tough.
Actually, it has got to be Shortshanks' people reading the paper.
But in a twisted way, this supports the theory that less police = less reported crime. If people can't call up and get a report, they'll say "screw it" and chalk it up to life experience.
We think that as a further test of this theory, we should pull all the police out of 007 for forty-eight hours. After the crater stops smoking, we can total up the crimes compared to the same period last year.
But in a twisted way, this supports the theory that less police = less reported crime. If people can't call up and get a report, they'll say "screw it" and chalk it up to life experience.
We think that as a further test of this theory, we should pull all the police out of 007 for forty-eight hours. After the crater stops smoking, we can total up the crimes compared to the same period last year.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Guliani is a Republican and he started it. Is Blomberg a Republican?
I like the pulling cars out of 007! I could just see the results: 1,000 shot, liquors stores burned down, 500 domestics pending, the lowe building crumbling. That would be the first 48 hours.
The reason NYC's murder rate has been dropping is the discontinuation of rent controlled apartments and the displacement of the lower socio-economic classes that commit the bulk of the violent crime. They are being replaced by working class people that pay more into the city coffers while putting less demand on resources. And commit fewer crimes (except maybe white-collar crimes)
While city officials and politicians will tell the public that they are committed to maintaining economic diversity in the inner city, that is hogwash. Why do you think the projects are coming down and they are all being moved to the suburbs? Tho the suburbs are learning that they are not a "asset to the community."
Are you crazy???? If you pull all the cops out of 007 for 48 hours all the thug shooters will kill each other and we won't have anything else to bitch about. For christs sake! Who's idea was this????
Thanks to their first contract in many years that got approved without arbitration, New York's Finest are getting a raise.
Starting pay for the NYPD will hit nearly $42,000 under a four-year pact that pushes police salaries up 17%, Mayor Bloomberg announced Thursday.
"We believe this will help make the job more attractive to potential recruits," said Bloomberg.
This is the second deal the city reached with cops in three months - and the first time in more than a decade it was determined without a state arbitration panel.
The last contract raised rookie pay from $25,100 - a figure that crippled recruitment - to $35,881.
This tentative contract, which covers 2006 to 2009, awards annual 4% raises, bringing the pay range from $41,975 for rookies to $76,488 for veterans.
Patrick Lynch, president of the Patrolmen's Benevolent Association, called the pact "creative and historic" for his 23,000 members.
The contract restores three vacation days for new hires and allows officers to make mandatory visits to the shooting range during workdays instead of personal time.
In exchange, the PBA agreed to drop six suits against the city.
"I've never been shy to stand on the steps of City Hall to say I didn't agree with something ... Well I'm equally not shy to stand inside City Hall and to say something is right. This is right," Lynch said.
Longevity pay, holiday pay, night shift differential and other additions push the package to nearly $92,000, officials said.
"If you don't pay your people well, they won't be able to concentrate on their job," Bloomberg said.
He conceded that cop salaries in neighboring Nassau County still outpace the city but said "this brings up the level dramatically."
You can ignore the property crimes if they are not reported, but the dead bodies will not go away!
I am liking your theory!!!
Heck for that matter, and officer's safety sake give it 72 hrs.
Then, just notify streets and san to remove the debris, and viola no crime at all!!!
A bit off topic, but did you read the Chicago Tribune blog reactions to the shootings in Orland Park? Man, it must be great to live in Utopia. What a clueless bunch of suburbanites? "Police all over" "what frequency is the police on the scanner" "we have had two shooting incidents in the last 18 months".......what a bunch of dumb*** liberals. Welcome to the real world. Speaking of liberals.....the University of Chicago researcher that died from a strain of Plague bacteria? And the U.C.'s statement "University hospital officials said there "does not appear to be a threat to the public" following the death of Malcolm J. Casadaban, 60, at the campus' Bernard Mitchell Hospital on Sept. 13"? Does not appear to be a threat? And yet we let Liberals breed? What the he** is wrong here?
not sure.... but didnt new york get a nice pay raise a few months ago??? I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
NYPD IS RUN BY A RESV USMC COL! WHY CANT THE CPD BE RUN BY A RESV COL????- SEMPER FI
NYPD doesnt have Masters & Hamilton thats why. They have real leaders like Raymond M. Kelly a former USMC Col and Vietnam Veteran. A combat leader and former street cop. The CPD has regular POs like this in our ranks.Just look at who has Deployed in the Global War on Terror and who has not. We are lead by wannabe leaders.
too many officer coding jobs that should have papEr!
THE MORE REPORTS HIGHER CRIME RATES WHICH LEADS TO DALEY HAVING TO BUDGET FOR MORE OFFICERS.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK GUYS THEY WILL NOT HIRE MORE DICKS IF NO CRIME IS OCCURRING.
AND TO ALL THE SUPERSTARS WHO PULL MULTIPLE EVENT NUMBERS OUT OF THEIR ASS...
AT LEAST GO TO THE SPOT THAT U R SUPPOSED TO BE AT AND MAKE IT LOOK GOOD.
PEOPLE WONDER WHY OFFICERS GET CAUGHT DOING STUPID SHIT!
I HAVE NO ANSWER!
figures lie,
liars figure
...did you read the Chicago Tribune blog reactions to the shootings in Orland Park? Man, it must be great to live in Utopia. What a clueless bunch of suburbanites? "Police all over" "what frequency is the police on the scanner" "we have had two shooting incidents in the last 18 months".......what a bunch of dumb*** liberals.
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So let me try to understand your logic. People that live in low crime areas, either by choice or accident, are liberals and clueless. That would make those that choose to live in high crime areas what? Conservatives and smart? Good people, that do their part everyday, choose to live with others like themselves and you berate them. Who is the clueless one?
First of all people are not reporting crime as much as they used to. I know dozens of victims who are associates/friends who just say screw it, my bag got snatched on the train, my garage was broken into, I got jumped on my way home last night. Police are less proactive and citizens are less likely to call the police. Crime is going down, bullshit! Numbers are being played with and criminals are moving out of the city and into the burbs.
"night shift differential, hmmm, sorta like our "duty availability" that EVERYONE GETS!!! How about a true differential for the people that work 3rd watch and midnights?? Oh no, then the inside geeks and FOp guys wouldn't get it........
Guliani is a Republican and he started it. Is Blomberg a Republican?
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Nope, an Independent
Get rid of the Feds and allow the police to police. Any CPD that has history with CPD is better than these clowns. Also, have the Mayor tell these politicians taht they do not run the department, espeically the Aldermen. How can Alderman Leslie Hariston, Alder John Pope and Alderman Sandi Jackson continually dictate CPD policy? How are they being held accountable for the people who elected them? Why is CPD being held accountable for safety and security of the public schools. They have their own budget, at least 3 different types of security teams, and the greatest 2 people of all time running things Ron Huberman and Michael Shields. We should be complimenting their efforts but not being held responsible for their shit. We have way to many irons in the fire. We can't do anything well if we are doing so many things. Did you ever think of the Jfed and Mayor Daley. We have too many people dictating policy, procedure and what we are responsible for. I am so sick of our Commander having to answer BS calls from the Aldreman. These people knew what their commmunity was before they moved into these areas. Also, they are their fucking kids. We didn't raise them. And the moment we do lock them up, we see all over the news, "Pooky was an A student on his way to college. He never hurt nobody!"
Until the Mayor uses his balls and tells the truth, until he gets rid of these idiot federal agents and until we get a descent contract, this city will continue to go to shit no matter how much they play with the numbers!
Very funny - but if you pull everyone out of 07, keep them on duty as perimeter patrol. Keep it from spreading.
There is a petition going around for a canpaign such as NYC and NYPD has had for a long time that there is a 10g reward for info on police shooters. I saw it somewhere and I think it should be done here. Bumper stickers and signs all over the city. Who has information on this?
One of the thing they have going for them is a Mayor who does not interfear with them, and a city administration that supports the police. Also they get most of the equipment they need. The men of NYPD feel a lot better about thing then the CPD officers who are harrasted constanty by politically appointed bosses.
There, they can really do some police work!
and if we pull all the police out of 007, those stats for how often african americans are pulled over and stopped will take an amazing tumble.
more police in african american areas equals more stops of african americans.
but some politicians blame it on racial profiling. . .
i say put an equal amount of police in african-american, european-american, hispanic-american, asian-american (howz that for pc?), and other areas, then take your stats.
move along now
New York has a tremendous decrease in violent crime because Guliani made a deal with the devil. New York basically allowed all of the different gangs in their borroughs to operate as long as they didn't kill each other over drug territory and the leadership of the gangs made sure via internal disciplinary procedures that their members are at their best behavior.
Most violent crimes are associated with narcotics transactions and fight over drug territory. New York was smart enough to make a deal and both parties have found it benefits everyone involved.
11:29 AM
Re: Shift Differential vs "Duty Availability" Pay
You are 100% correct. This money was intended for street cops working the third and first watches only. If a second watch officer wants it, bid for the streets during hours of darkness.
Keep their filthy, rotten politics out of every facet of the job.
Every other major P.D. pays shift differential. "Duty availability" is just a pretext for the clout babies working steady days.
DEMAND SHIFT DIFFERENTIAL!
Let us not forget, New York is losing population, as is Chicago; middle age working people are moving out(read fewer victims). Old people looking to suck NY's welfare teet are moving in and they reside in controlled access buildings, thus not available to be made victims.
New York handles the drug problem much differently than Chicago. For over a decade they have concentrated a drive to push the dealers inside. It does not cut the drug activity at all but it takes the nonsense off the street.
If you look at the search warrant numbers you can see. Keep the drug dealers inside not out on the streets.
Seems to work for the homicide numbers. New York started this years ago.
>>>Anonymous said...
Guliani is a Republican and he started it. Is Blomberg a Republican?
9/20/2009 12:53:00 AM<<<
Guliani is a RINO...REPUBLICAN IN NAME ONLY.
That's because he was a U.S. Attorney during the Reagen administration, if it had been Clinton or Carter...
Pick up on what NYC cops think of him, and how 9-11 Ground Zero First Responders who are sick from sucking up glass dust think of him.
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