Beating Death on Tape
We'll just link to the FoxNews report.
Here's the truly sad part - we and our readers have been pointing out for some time now that this is just a typical Chicago high school dismissal. It's played out time after time, day after day, across the entire west and south sides. Crane, Marshall, Orr, Bogan, Fenger, etc. Dozens, maybe scores of beat, rapid and tact cars held down at various high schools while regular citizens are being denied police service and backlogs mount.
Imagine if a single news camera was stationed at each of these schools for a week and they just filmed dismissal time? Hundreds of "students" running back and forth, hurling rocks, throwing punches, beating each other with boards and bats, tying up traffic and police resources?
Who are we kidding, it wouldn't change a thing. But the YouTube hits would be astronomical.
Here's the truly sad part - we and our readers have been pointing out for some time now that this is just a typical Chicago high school dismissal. It's played out time after time, day after day, across the entire west and south sides. Crane, Marshall, Orr, Bogan, Fenger, etc. Dozens, maybe scores of beat, rapid and tact cars held down at various high schools while regular citizens are being denied police service and backlogs mount.
Imagine if a single news camera was stationed at each of these schools for a week and they just filmed dismissal time? Hundreds of "students" running back and forth, hurling rocks, throwing punches, beating each other with boards and bats, tying up traffic and police resources?
Who are we kidding, it wouldn't change a thing. But the YouTube hits would be astronomical.
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posted by SCC at 12:33 AM
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The only reason the other fights didnt make TV is because no one died. This was just a freak occurence that someone died after getting hit with a 2/4. Worse fights than this have been 19 pauled.
I've always said, if the general public knew what we knew, they'd shit.
My (formerly) liberal sister in law made the mistake of a wrong turn and ended up in front of Orr HS at dismissal time. She's lucky it was only a windshield that got broken, but it opened her eyes greatly.
Now we just have to educate the rest of the public to the country's largest day care provider--The Chicago Public Schools.
I do have condolences to the family of the kid killed in Roseland, he seemed like a good kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Truely sad. His parents have to be just devastated.
But, what's even worse is that the mighty midget is over in Denmark, wearing his wooden shoes, stuttering, with one thumb in his mouth and the other stuck up his *ss, doing a dance, all in an effort to stick it to every last one of us hard working, tax paying citizens.
Hey Shortshanks, spend some of that parking meter money on more police and city services, so other kids won't be afraid they'll get beaten to death after school!
FUCKING SAVAGES!
Arnie Duncan presided over this abortion of a school system and now the genious Obama has him presiding over the entire nation's schools.
Stateville on the streets.....Chicago is an open sewer on so many levels. Glad I left, wish I'd done it years earlier. You guys need open season on gangbangers. Literally. If you can swing it, I'll come back for a visit. :D
Total savages!!! People just don't understand that this is what we have to deal with every day. It is trully a thankless job.
Jesus H Christ what is wrong with those people.
Hundreds of "students" running back and forth, hurling rocks, throwing punches, beating each other
Thats not news
I'm sorry,I for one am outraged by this video. These fucking animals need to be caught and put away. To every parent who reads this, this is what you get when you handcuff the police. I guarantee you the parents of these animals will protect them to the end. They will lie, yhey will conceal these bastards, they will file complaints against any officer who comes for them. Then so called religious leaders will come to their defense instead of demanding the community cough them up. Then some scum sucking lawyer will sue the city and we will all pay to settle. And do you think Mayor Daley cares at all??? No, he just cares about forcing the Olympics down our throats. Why do you think this fight went on as long as it did? Because there are not enough police to send, Period. He has cut police numbers to pay for something most Chicagoians don't even want, the Olympics. That is his dream. This young man's family has had it's dreams dashed by a savage and a mayor who doesn't care except for his own ambition.
D O'Brien
OUR YOUTH.
from what I can tell they get a great shot at that kid's face (kid with the board that delivered the main blow). very few "kids/students" there, just bloody savages.
I hope the citizen's of Chicago and every person who views this video realizes this is NORMAL for MOST public school dismissals; not the exception to the rule. SADLY.
What I cannot believe and most if not all should be dismayed by, is the fact that this poor child (somebody's son, grandson, nephew) was being beat, and the video rolled on. Not once until after they dragged his lifeless body away did anyone say "we need help" or make a phone call to the Police or for an Ambulance. AND that is what is most incomprehensible. He was their friend, their classmate, and they did nothing but roll video. As soon as they heard his head hit the concrete like the "witness" reports should have been enough indication he needed help; instead the video continues for additional MINUTES while the beating continues and everyone stands by and watches, not a soul to run interference for him.
Makes a momma proud, don't 'cha think.
They just be rushing home to be the first to complete they homework so they can compete for the best spots in Chicago State University upon graduation/
who cares, who cares, who cares... not me.... lmao... i love this shit...
Why are people surprised! Everyday after school someone gets beat up and now someone died. People always say that Lincoln Park and the north side gets too much attention when crime happens, how about in this situation. This has been all over the news for days!
Animals.
Gee whiz, maybe the black community shouldnt have empowered gangsters so much.
Chicago is basically ran by gangs. We all know it.
The media won't film it because the problem it would expose does not fit their agenda at this time.
Some private u tube footage may wake up a few liberals to some unpleasant realities and generate a real discussion.
You can't fix it if you cant talk about it.
watched it. animals! nothing new here. its a big deal now cause no gun was involved? its caught on tape so now people care? these animals will never change. funny honor roll student. also funny yest media reported they beat him down cause he wasnt in a or refused to be in a gang? from the video i seen a bunch of animals acting like savages and dummy hits a kid whos down already with a big piece of wood? guess he was an honor student too? let them kill each other not my problem. i raise my kid right!! call for piece jessie! let me guess mary mitchell...its the polices fault?
Imagine if a single news camera was stations at each of these schools for a week and they just filmed dismissal time? Hundreds of "students" running back and forth, hurling rocks, throwing punches, beating each other with boards and bats, tying up traffic and police resources?
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Of course. What did you think was going to happen once Arne Duncan left town for Obamaville?
This video should be sent to the IOC so they can see what they will be subjecting the Olympic Games attendees to should they choose Chicago for 2016!!!
NOlympics!
Ron Hubberman must be so proud!
Fucking ANIMALS!!!!
100% correct, We got rid of the school patrol, but half the sheets on days in my district are full of school cars because we have so many schools. The rest of the cars are 99 units. Now they have the tact cars held down at schools also. When does it end. How about this Good Humor Man, Take some of that federal money and skip the study about which students are in danger of being shot, "the answer is all of them". Use it for some special employment. We have to protect our future doctors, lawyers,Indian chiefs and Olympic stars.
Register all rocks and lumber now.
2 x 4's kill.
Another senseless tragedy by savages against a decent human being.
It may not be as bad but they down plenty of cars in 016 for those little fuckers at Foreman and those knuckleheads at Taft and we really dont have the manpower for this.
Great video, you can see the guy in the red who first strikes him with the board, Guilty, the other guy in the brown who strikes him with a smaller board while he is down Guilty. Then the assorted other assholes that kick him while he is down Guilty. Now try and get someone to tell who they are. Remember no snitching, especially to the police. The only hope is to find some of those girls in the video and you might get somewhere, I believe they will give up some info if they know.
Remember this can happen to you out there. Will they clock you with a board? will they steal your gun and wallet while you are down? Are most of the cars on days during school dismissal time 99? The answer to all above is YES! I for one am not going down like that. Be safe out there and don't think that this could not happen to you just because you are wearing a uniform and are a Police Officer.
Anonymous said...
OUR YOUTH.
9/27/2009 01:50:00 AM
no mine!! maybe yours, but definetly not mine!!
You will never, ever, see a C.P.S. teacher present at one of these fights trying to break them up. They are only concerned with what happens within the school walls. I remember arguing with the principal of Clemente H.S. over her "orderly" dismissals of 3000 students. She couldn't care less after that final bell rang and could care even less if it didn't happen on school property. They, the administrators, just pulled down the shades, waited about 10 minutes, then ran to their cars.
Get as much of this shit as possible on Youtube before "Olympics" Thursday.
Today on Wild Kingdom, we will watch as urban jackels are released from the hold pens and attack weaker members of the pack for enterainment of the leaders of the pack.
We should fed-ex this video to the International Olympic Committee.
Why is Foxnews the only media outlet that carried the video? The MSM doesn't want the people to know what the liberal, progressive attitude toward education ala Bill Ayers, Duncan, Obama and others has led to. The primitive savagery depicted on the video is mesmerizing. The video should be studied in classes on anthropology, psychology, sociology and criminal justice. The individuals in the video act like a bunch of jackals, hyenas, vultures, sharks, wolves or other animals that kill or scavenge in a pack. As the fight continues the blood lust of the pack members becomes more pronounced and elevates til there is almost a frenzy. Hit anyone, kick anyone, use any available weapon. Individual down. Kill him.
As others on this blog have pointed out, these types of fights are commonplace near Chicago schools at dismissal time. The only difference is this time someone was killed not just injured.
It is a cultural problem not a policing problem. Individuals with the attitudes of those in the video or making the video cannot be changed by having more police on scene. That just puts a lid on things at that place for that moment. The savagery will continue once the police are not around to stop it.
Eradicating that type of behavior must begin with changing the way these individuals are raised from day one. But, we know that won't happen because the conventional wisdom of the liberals who have controlled the nanny state for years is to reward mothers for having more babies by giving them welfare checks. Make every excuse in the world for parents not to remove their kids from the poisonous influence the parent or parents provide. Provide free housing, food, healthcare, recreation, and spending money from the cradle to the grave no matter whether the person is capable of working and just chooses not to work and be on the dole. No accountability, no responsibility and no consequences for being a complete zero.
Unless and until the liberal paradigm of "something for nothing" is stamped out. We will continue to see more and more savagery, and the savages will proliferate until they are the majority and civilized society will cease to exist. We are rapidly approaching that time. What are the "good men" going to do about it?
Duncn, Hubberman, what's the difference?
One poster comments:
And do you think Mayor Daley cares at all
Its not just Daley, bud. Its the entire Democrat party, in fact, the entire liberal population.
They WANT to empower these savage animals, because keeping them violent, stupid and regular lawbreakers gives them the bargaining chips to buy their votes with entitlement programs and anti-law enforcement legislation.
These "people", and that term is used loosely, have devolved into nothing but violent emotionless beasts of prey. Until the country has the fucking balls to stop being scared off by threats of "racist" and recognize this truth, stop glorifying thugs and animals and ghetto "culture", and instead cut this cancer out, society will continue to fall victim to these rotten vermin.
O'brien, you've got a set!
Sgt. Rattus Norvegicus
I often get sent to schools at dismissal time and learned long ago that locking up a juvenile is not worth it. The almighty Youth Officer has to be called and often critcizes your arrest..."you locked him/her up for what?" They can never bring themselves to you to process. On the rare occasion that they do come out, it takes hours and the area is ten minutes away. To lock up a juvenile is at least a three hour ordeal. Why bother? The younger ones havre been the ones carrying guns and dope for so long and they know we rarely waste our time stopping and going through them. I'm sure someone will be screaming about curfews regarding this whole ordeal. News Flash higher ups....they don't do a rats ass worth of good. Just an absolute waste of manpower. Hey Jody, how about kicking some of these Youth Det's in the ass and get them to do their job?
Even after they make the arrests the courts will only give them probation.
The problem goes far beyond this event.
"and now the genious Obama has him presiding over the entire nation's schools."
Genius, the word is genius, which apparently you are not.
It may not be as bad but they down plenty of cars in 016 for those little fuckers at Foreman and those knuckleheads at Taft and we really dont have the manpower for this.
9/27/2009 06:49:00 AM
Absolutely ridiculous that Taft isn't a neighborhood school! We get soaked for some of the highest taxes in the City but can't use the only high school for miles.
Maybe we make it a Chicago Olympic event. Have all of these Gang Banger animals go to Soldier Field once a year, lock all of the doors then drop guns, knives and bats on the field. They can just waste each other without hitting the police or innocent civilians. Big gold medal can be mailed to the last one standing.
That's just an outdoor Fenger gym class.
If all you rich white cops could just pay a little more taxes, we could afford to buy them golden gymnastic equipment and new top-line Nike shoes. Then, they'd all become gold-medal Olympians.
Instead, they have to use old wooden boards in gym class and become killers instead of future superstars.
Always remember. There is no problem that more money will not solve.
Ruthless ANIMALS!
Anonymous said...
Gee whiz, maybe the black community shouldnt have empowered gangsters so much.
Chicago is basically ran by gangs. We all know it.
9/27/2009 04:04:00 AM
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How true! You make more sense than the Mayor, Arne Duncan, Ron Huberman, and all the sociologists & Afro-american studies professors at all the Universities across this whole stinking corrupt State/City/County!
Besides the media, why aren't the parents out there ensuring the safety of their children? If this shit was going on at a school my kid went to I would be out there with a camera calling the principal and politicians on the carpet. There should be a parent on every corner with a camera!!!!
This happens all over the city, but you don't hear about it. What about the 2 CTA buses destroyed by Steinmetz students during a gang fight last school year? Or the riots that seem to happen almost daily at Foreman ?
Parents of former students there said that there was a full on takeover of Foreman last year with gang members controlling 2 floors of the school until police were able to retake the school.
This behavior goes on every day but the media doesn't want to report it.
Tribal! Lord of the Flies'esque. Heartbreaking. Is this the true picture of the values of youth in America today? For this fight to develope, mature, reach a peak, re-emerge, as fluid as ancient combat would have been; expecting, and NOT seeing any of my beloved police department wading into it to restore peace...I'm doubly saddened for Chicago. We know why we couldn't get a handle on this; just crunch the numbers!
Anonymous said...
I've always said, if the general public knew what we knew, they'd shit.
My (formerly) liberal sister in law made the mistake of a wrong turn and ended up in front of Orr HS at dismissal time. She's lucky it was only a windshield that got broken, but it opened her eyes greatly.
Now we just have to educate the rest of the public to the country's largest day care provider--The Chicago Public Schools.
I do have condolences to the family of the kid killed in Roseland, he seemed like a good kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
9/27/2009 12:42:00 AM
Don't any school officers have a small video camera and can't you tape a sampling of dismissals at a variety of high schools all over the city and get those videos posted on YouTube?
Let the public see what we see. Give dates, addresses etc. so parents can see their little "good boys" and "good girls" in action as viscous savages.
Wow. We need to call in some air support and just flatten these neighborhoods. I wonder how many of these animals are part of the program where they get their own counselor, adviser, and a job. I don't know why I'm surprised, but this video is pretty bad.
The Honor Roll Student was wailing punches and got knocked the Fuck Out. While attempting to recover from that blow he got sucker punched again leaving him unconscious. That is where the third animal broke the wooden blank across his head and killed him. The future Doctor should of not been involved in the fight and he might still be here today.
This aren't animals or savages,They are bright honor roll students ,who are misunderstood.Look at all the scholars out there,and you want me to live next to them?NOT!!
where is jesse jackson? where is the fake fr. pfleger? where are the protests? if the police shot one of these savages who was swinging the board the media and rev's would have a field day. this city is doomed and i don't care. keep throwing money at these animals that will solve everything.
It looks to me like the 2/4 killed him not the kids stomping him. It just took a while for him to feel the effects.
We cant carry a guns because WHY ???? .... Oh yeah the police are only MINUTES away ... Im sure there's a couple of laws that Daley has written down somewhere to prevent this ? ... oh wait he cut the police budget and every other city service to get his 10 Billion two week festival.
What can we do ?
My Lord, with the airing of this video on the news and Chicago Breaking News accurately reporting a police involved shooting; could the media be trying for a last push to try and sway the Olympic committee from selecting Chicago??
Probably not, but that'd be nice now wouldn't it?
"He happened to be at the wrong place at the right time".. my ass this little honor student is seen running towards the fight and throwing punches! He is felled by the board because he forget to swivel his head and notice his surroundings..first rule of the jungle! I feel sorry for the 2X4 that had to experience the blunt force trauma of this honor student's head and now will have to sit all alone somewhere down in ERPS away from his park bench family...THAT is truly the only crime.
Another senseless tragedy by savages against a decent human being.
9/27/2009 06:41:00 AM
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Decent human being? Certainly, the kid didn't choose to be knocked unconcious and killed, BUT he CHOOSE TO RUN IN THE MIST OF A FIGHT! Accountability, folks! It's not politically correct to talk about accountability, but read into the behavior, EVERY ONE OF THOSE KIDS WERE RUNNING TOWARDS THE FIGHT. Either to watch (support & encourage) or participate.
Sorry, I reserve the use of "decent" for those citizens that contribute to society, by going to high school and studying. Or calling the police and avoiding disturbances.
I will say it. No one wants to but I will. This is what happens when you shut down the public housing facilities (projects) and integrate the institutionalized people that lived there in the neighborhoods!!
All news reports state there was some type of rivalry between the Fenger students who lived in Roseland and those who lived in Altgeld Gardens (housing project). The students from the Gardens have to commute out of their neighborhood into unknown territory.
Not just gang speaking but just neighborhood turf in general. Sad to say but this type of behavior has been found in the neighborhoods since the closing of the housing projects. Think about the shooting of the P.O's son on the CTA bus. Ever hear about stuff like that before the projects closed? Not saying that there aren't any good people and families that live in or came out of the housing projects because there are but the mentality of most of the youth living there is they have to fight and protect what is theirs by any means necessary. Just a thought.
This being said, my prayers go out to the family of this young man, not a " savage animal" as so many of you have stated.We are all human beings and even "animals" can be tamed and taught right from wrong. We all need to pray for today's youth and the future of our country.
Stop calling them animals, most animals dont act like this. Stop calling them savages, most savages dont act like this. Call them what they are.
They are mosters.
Why are they mosnters? Maybe because they have been told that nothing is their fault, no matter what they are the victims. Maybe a court system that has told them they can do anything they want and nothing will happen to them is to blame. Maybe its a "culture" that puts senseless wasteful materialism ahead of human life in its priorities. It could be the the fact that this same "culture" sees it as just fine that girls can have multiple children from multiple boys and that those boys bear no responsibility whatsoever for them. Maybe its the fact that if you are paid to do nothing but reproduce, through a lack of self respect, life naturally has less value. I could go on. I wont because I dont care.
The fact remains that people who participate in acts like these (and countless others that we have all seen way to many of) have forfeited their humanity. They are no longer human. They have decided by their acts to be something less, they have decided to be monsters.
Thats not even the scary part. I will bet you a years pay that at least one of those monsters has fathered at least one child. Same bet applies that those children end up the same as their monstrous fathers. How many children do you have officers? Think about it. These monsters will win, their way of life will become the norm and ours will become the abberation. Not only through the courts and the government rewarding them for reproducing and letting them get away with almost anything but also through sheer breeding these monsters will soon outnumber those who actually have any ethics at all.
The world we give to our children will be vastly different than the one our parents gave us. G*d save us all.
Fox news said the video footage from the police camera did not show any faces???? What good are these pieces of crap? Millions of dollars spent on these cameras and some civilian with a camera phone takes better quality pictures???? ONLY IN CHICAGO!
So much for "Head Start" funding.
Yea....move more of them into 016 by Bryn Mawr and Elston. They are a great addition not only to the neighborhood but to any community.
MONSTERS!
fucking animals! complete savages. this video will be shown worldwide!
doh, uh oh...shortshanks will be stuttering to the IOC committee.
olympics? we dont need no stinkin olympics
if the police shot one of these savages who was swinging the board the media and rev's would have a field day
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I can see the TV news now:
Cops shoot unarmed carpenter. Top story at 10!
This behavior goes on every day but the media doesn't want to report it.
9/27/2009 11:38:00 AM
Of course the media will never report it. It does not fit their template. There is no such thing as unbiased media reporting. That is why newspapers are dying and nobody watches network news, we see through their bullshit. Most media people are politically left of center. Their only hope is for Obama to give them a bailout.
I'll bet twenty bucks and my left nut that if I went to any university and asked a journalism student what his reason is for wanting to become a journalist, they would, overwhelmingly, reply "to change the world" and not "to report news." This must change. But jagoffs like William Ayers have a grip on the young minds of this nation.
A serious question...just what are the churches in black neighborhoods teaching/preaching to their congregations? What kind of guidance/instruction is Father Pfleger(sp?) administering to his congregation? My God, I remember with fond memory Father Murray of Nativity of Our Lord parish in the 50s (hey Ritchie, do you remember what you learned from Father Murray?) who would pound into us the proper way to conduct ourselves in civil society...the nuns, the priests never let up on us to do what was right..they were selfless in their determination to make sure we knew right from wrong..as were our parents. For all the preaching, for all the storefront churches, why are the people in black neighborhoods turning a deaf ear to their preachers/priests?
I'm doubly saddened for Chicago. We know why we couldn't get a handle on this; just crunch the numbers!
9/27/2009 11:40:00 AM
Huberman will just throw more of our money at the problem
Fox news said the video footage from the police camera did not show any faces???? What good are these pieces of crap? Millions of dollars spent on these cameras and some civilian with a camera phone takes better quality pictures???? ONLY IN CHICAGO!
9/27/2009 05:49:00 PM
And you believe FOX news? They won't let you see the video until the detectives release it. Don't listen to the media and you'll be alright kid.
You guys go ahead and keep slowing down and not doing shit. I am pissed and feel disrespected that the Mayor would put a Federal Agent in charge of CPD, but I have to live here long after he moves to Nevada next year. These same kids will be in our parents neighborhood and will be around our childrens schools. They may even encounter them at the mall or on their way to and from some event as Ron Holdt's son did. We have to protect our own and as a father, I can't imagine what this kids family is feeling. I watched the tape and in my 30 years as the police I never cried so hard. I realized it is time for me to go and to take my grandkids with me. This city is not safe for anyone, not even the police.
Thanks Jfed for helping the citizens of Chicago hate us even more! Asshole
STARTING JANUARY 2010 ALL 17 YEAR OLDS WILL NO LONGER BE SENT TO COUNTY, THEY WILL BE TREATED AS JUVENILES. WHAT A JOKE!!! THEY NEED TO REVERSE IT AND MAKE 16 YEAR OLDS ADULTS. THE STATE WANT'S TO SAVE MONEY AND LET THESE ANIMALS BE TREATED WITH KID GLOVES. THIS STATE SUCKS....
The really sad part according to the news anchor is that CPD was on the scene watching.
These are the future members of President Obama's Civilian National Security Force.
All is well, nothing to see here, move along!
it makes u wonder who disbanded the school unit???
DO THE GOLDSTARS REALLY CARE.
DO THE PRINCIPAL ADD SECURITY TO THEIR BUDGETS.
DO THE PARENTS SET UP THEIR OWN LOOK OUTS 4 THEIR LIL ANGELS!
AND THE SCHOOLS CAMERA CANT EVEN MAKE OUT FACES?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I will say it. No one wants to but I will. This is what happens when you shut down the public housing facilities (projects) and integrate the institutionalized people that lived there in the neighborhoods!!
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Don't forget Section 8. Another failed federal program. Daley has used this exclusively to dismantle the projects to get his precious real estate, destroying decent and productive communities in the process. The other farce is mixed income developments. How many really work as intended? Very few if any. People who don't care or give a damn, bring the rest of the area down to their standards. As for Daley, I would let these honor students loose in the mayors neighborhood so he can experience first hand how well his takeover of the CPS has worked.
Burn baby burn!!!!!
The Honor Roll Student was wailing punches and got knocked the Fuck Out. While attempting to recover from that blow he got sucker punched again leaving him unconscious. That is where the third animal broke the wooden blank across his head and killed him. The future Doctor should of not been involved in the fight and he might still be here today.
9/27/2009 11:51:00 AM
This is right on. If this kid got caught up in this by mistake, he coulda ran after being hit once. He didn't look at the tape. he is standing around fighting and acting just likt the rest. He coulda ran inside the community center but he chose to stand out there and fight. U could see these savages from 3 blocks away, he had time to leave, he didn't.
Here is the new thing surfacing tonite,
OBAMA wants kid to stay in school longer, hmmmmmm
FUNNY TIMEING ISNT IT?
So now FENGER HIGH is supposedly getting more security too, hmmmm
WHAT ABOUT OTHER SCHOOLS, AND NEIGHBORHOODS, hmmmmmm
THIS STUFF HAPPENS AT ALOT OF CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WHY ONLY FENGER NOW?
WE HAVE NO MANPOWER NOW, HOW IN THE FUCK ARE WE GOING TO PRODUCE MORE SECURITY ANYWHERE?
Oh yes thats right , my police officers ill be where the animals bang , and not here here I may need them
WHY HAVENT THERE BEEN MARCHES AT CITY HALL (DIRECTED AT THE MAYOR) , FOR MORE MANPOWER AND SAFETY FOR ALL...
WHY WHY WHY
WE NEED ANSWERS NOT BULLSHIT!!
022 already has a car posted on Church St and in Racine Courts. A third will now be sitting on Wallace? No wonder there is no police presence on the west side of the district. Until manpower shortages are seriously addressed, then let the animals go wild.
You will never, ever, see a C.P.S. teacher present at one of these fights trying to break them up. They are only concerned with what happens within the school walls. I remember arguing with the principal of Clemente H.S. over her "orderly" dismissals of 3000 students. She couldn't care less after that final bell rang and could care even less if it didn't happen on school property. They, the administrators, just pulled down the shades, waited about 10 minutes, then ran to their cars.
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sorry to burst your bubble there "superman" but last time i checked it wasn't a teacher's job to play prison guard in the yard!!!
and if 2 or 3 squads were able to actually come clear from their school crossings or pointless paper jobs because "Ize need a report" i guaranteed they would remain in their cars until more backup arrived because it is the safe thing to do.
As long as no police officer is involved in this fight fuckem! and imagine if little white teacher lady went out to try and stop this. I predict some raping and pillaging would occur... stay safe everybody
Anonymous said...
The Honor Roll Student was wailing punches and got knocked the Fuck Out. While attempting to recover from that blow he got sucker punched again leaving him unconscious. That is where the third animal broke the wooden blank across his head and killed him. The future Doctor should of not been involved in the fight and he might still be here today.
9/27/2009 11:51:00 AM
This is right on. If this kid got caught up in this by mistake, he coulda ran after being hit once. He didn't look at the tape. he is standing around fighting and acting just likt the rest. He coulda ran inside the community center but he chose to stand out there and fight. U could see these savages from 3 blocks away, he had time to leave, he didn't.
9/27/2009 10:39:00 PM
WOW, if any one of us did not do something STUPID in our life, then yes this would be the attitude to have.
Getting into a fist fight and ending up dead ??? Good golly, at one time or another we've all either been in a fight, watched a fight, and knew someone who was involved in a fight, should they all be dead???
Gee whiz, maybe the black community shouldnt have empowered gangsters so much.
Chicago is basically ran by gangs. We all know it.
9/27/2009 04:04:00 AM
Its not just the "Blacks"....
You also have Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Italians, Polish, Irish, Chinese.
Its been going on for years! Dont think that its just in the Black Community!
That wasn't a children's fight, it was mob action, a chaotic riot. I've seen more civility when I was putting down Haitian riots at Gitmo in the 90's.
One or two squads? Good way to get killed. One or two teachers? Please.
At least a dozen strong men, full riot gear, OC, dogs and water cannon. But can you imagine the racial outcry?
Face facts, the ghetto dwellers talk mad shit when something like this happens, but what do they DO? Fucking nothing, so I guess they want this shit to keep happening. Fuck'em, any money spent there may as well be burned for warmth by the homeless guys on Wacker.
You will never, ever, see a C.P.S. teacher present at one of these fights trying to break them up. They are only concerned with what happens within the school walls. I remember arguing with the principal of Clemente H.S. over her "orderly" dismissals of 3000 students. She couldn't care less after that final bell rang and could care even less if it didn't happen on school property. They, the administrators, just pulled down the shades, waited about 10 minutes, then ran to their cars.
9/27/2009 07:56:00 AM
Hold up there, buddy. My wife was a CPS Teacher. And was not that far from where this incident happened. My wife left CPS when she was pregnant, and thankfully never returned to those shitty conditions. Would you want YOUR wife in the middle of these animals? YOUR PREGNANT WIFE? Do you think for a second, that any one of these “Honor Roll Students” care? It’s rather obvious if you watch the tape.
You said “I remember arguing with the principal of Clemente H.S. over her "orderly" dismissals of 3000 students.” Like Clemente is the only place where this shit happens? And these are the only two incidents? It happens damn near EVERY DAY CLASS IS IN SESSION! You know it and I know it, so does 90% of the Department (10% are clueless to begin with). Hopefully, the rest of the City and Country will start to wake up and realize this shit, and how these animals act!
Hold the Principal/Teacher responsible? FUCK THAT! Point the finger of culpability where it belongs! AT THE PARENTS!
Real change you can believe in..
"Maybe we make it a Chicago Olympic event. Have all of these Gang Banger animals go to Soldier Field once a year, lock all of the doors then drop guns, knives and bats on the field. They can just waste each other without hitting the police or innocent civilians. Big gold medal can be mailed to the last one standing."
As George Carlin said "Then we shoot 'em in the fuckin' head!"
After watching the video you can clearly see that he walked right into the middle of the malea and threw a punch at one of the kids. Then he got lit up by the board. So to say that he was just "an innocent bystander" that got caught up in this is not correct. I guess you make choices in life, even at a young age, and the consequences can be deadly.
No wonder the CPS test scores keep going down -- all the honor students keep getting killed!
Anonymous said...
You will never, ever, see a C.P.S. teacher present at one of these fights trying to break them up. They are only concerned with what happens within the school walls. I remember arguing with the principal of Clemente H.S. over her "orderly" dismissals of 3000 students. She couldn't care less after that final bell rang and could care even less if it didn't happen on school property. They, the administrators, just pulled down the shades, waited about 10 minutes, then ran to their cars.
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sorry to burst your bubble there "superman" but last time i checked it wasn't a teacher's job to play prison guard in the yard!!!
and if 2 or 3 squads were able to actually come clear from their school crossings or pointless paper jobs because "Ize need a report" i guaranteed they would remain in their cars until more backup arrived because it is the safe thing to do.
As long as no police officer is involved in this fight fuckem! and imagine if little white teacher lady went out to try and stop this. I predict some raping and pillaging would occur... stay safe everybody
9/27/2009
I would never expect a teacher to break up a fight in the schoolyard. I would, however, expect them to identify some of these savages as offenders. Nothing wrong with being a reliable informant to the police. It might help us put some of these jagoffs away.
So what is the answer? I hear a lot of liberal-bashing but there are those of us who are too young to know the alternative, as we've been raised in an environment where the standard is the rehabilitating criminals and answer is mixed-income housing, etc.
What are we not being told? What needs to happen to eradicate this?
I watched the tape and in my 30 years as the police I never cried so hard.
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Dear Lord, get out already. This is the worst you've seen in 30 years? Where did you work, 20th District Desk for the last 29 years?
Get a fucking grip on yourself. I see this shit EVERY SINGLE DAY I WORK.
WOW, if any one of us did not do something STUPID in our life, then yes this would be the attitude to have.
Getting into a fist fight and ending up dead ??? Good golly, at one time or another we've all either been in a fight, watched a fight, and knew someone who was involved in a fight, should they all be dead???
9/27/2009 11:57:00 PM
Nobody is saying just because a person is involved in a fight,riot, or what it was,A GANG FIGHT should be killed. What we are saying don't make it seem like a innocent CPS Honor roll was killed, he was an active participant in the gang fight who was knocked unconscious and was struck by another gang banger with a board. Who is to say he wouldn't have done the same thing to another CPS Honor roll student if the situation presented itself.
So what did Father Murray from the nativity of Our Lord Church teach Richie? I think you are reffering to Da Mayo! He must have taught him how to lie, cheat and steal may he ROT in HELL! Da Mayo has the blood of many on his hands from De-policing and shaping a once proud department into a total disaster!
Any of these fine students on lubermans list of children at risk.
I got a great idea for some prize-winning journalism:
Set up cameras outside some tough schools, and show the viewers just what's going on out there.
Maybe, just maybe, the public will demand action.
I don't understand why FOX is saying, "this is what some CPS students have to go through to get home." Isn't it the CPS students who caused the problem?
HOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
Please keep the scum from the Burbs.....can we use the proposed Olymic sites as walled in free for all projects?
Typical...
Police are not too shocked over this...
If any reporters and citizens are reading right now this video will give you insight as to HOW IT IS and WHY to stay out of that NECK OF THE WOODS...WHY DIDN'T COPWATCH FILM THIS?
COPWATCH PUSSIES would have been running for the hills!!!
By the way...Most HIGH SCHOOLS in the City neighborhoods have this potential to GO UP...I believe!
As DUDE woo woos and gets all animant and starts his gang banging bull shit and his "I am the MAN" jumping around nonsense...PEOPLE GET HURT AND PEOPLE DIE!
Enjoy your City!
3 bars
Feel sorry for the kid, but can't help but notice the people who claim to have raised the victim! Seems like several people claim to have raised him possibly for the eventual settlement payout? Momma, daddy, grandpa, and neighbor!
who cares, who cares, who cares... not me.... lmao... i love this shit...
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I hope you are not a copper becasue I think that statement makes you pretty much of a frigging monster youtself.
Re: Taft High School
Supposedly, according to current Taft principal, Dr. Aruthur N. Tarvadian, Taft IS a neighborhood school. If "you" disagree, let your voice be heard at the next LSC meeting (listed on Taft's website).
Re: lmao
Sure, it's funny, until mob rule affects YOUR quality of life in YOUR block.
Re: Stupidity
Sure, anyone/everyone has done something stupid. I'm not God, so I can't say who lives and dies from a fight. Common sense should dictate when and when not to enter a fight.
Re: Daley & other Democrats
Some people on this board and elsewhere in Chicagoland continuously vote Democratic for Daley I, Daley II, Stroger I, Stroger II (via the committeemen they support), etc. *Dr. Phil voice on* How is that working out? *Dr. Phil voice off*
Didn't we have a school unit before?
To 9/27 2:10 a.m.-- If it wasn't for that person videotaping, there wouldn't be any video at all, and four men charged-- because the Police Camera nearby didn't capture enough detail to id people.
This is gonna be a new event in 2016.. 2x4 tossing.. we gots plenty of practice!!
This is after school violence is BULLSHIT!
These high schools are are Correctional Prep. Most of the students have been arrested at least once. Many
have been arrested for violent offenses, and other felonies. Me and my partner would take names off the warrant list and go to Fenger and lock em up. The little mother fucker who gave an interview to Fox32 yesterday also has an active. His inital start with J.W. and lives in 005.
I noticed there is no Father Flaky or the mouth of the south (Jackson) or Sharpton or Meeks to compplain about this !!! And why is that, probably because a black was killed by a black so it is o-k. Can just imagine the press coverage of all the technicolor reverends coming out of the wood work to cry over the dead boy had the police done this. They would be marching and singing "no justice-no peace" but since no police involved they won't come out and blame the actual "offender's" that's "right "offender's", not honor roll students who were just on their way home to do homework. How about looking for the kids parents and ask them why their little angel was runnung around fighting if they are not in a gang. I guess it's time to start to hear all the bleeding heart liberals blame the police and the system instead of the actual bad guys. Oh Wait I know, lets have midnight basketball !!!
OUR YOUTH.
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Not MY youth, never has been, never will be...just plain savages
I watched the tape and in my 30 years as the police I never cried so hard.
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Cried?!? Hell I went for the popcorn.30 yrs and that shocked you???? Wow have you been sleeping for the last 29?
I watched the tape and in my 30 years as the police I never cried so hard.
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Dear Lord, get out already. This is the worst you've seen in 30 years? Where did you work, 20th District Desk for the last 29 years?
Get a fucking grip on yourself. I see this shit EVERY SINGLE DAY I WORK.
9/28/2009 09:59:00 AM
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LMAO Gotta be a CAPS warrior/flunkie if this was the worst they ever saw. It's safe to say this person was never on a police shooting when Boo is spewing blood out of his mouth due to the internal damage which just occured courtsey of one or more hollow points as the police are getting pelted by rocks/bottles/etc by an angry mob of a hundred or more.
I thought coppers would have a little more sense than to make comments when they don't know WTF they are talking about. The cameras where faces couldn't be identified were not POD/police cameras, they were surveillance cameras on the community center where they dragged the kid into.
As usual the pod cameras in the area were useless.
Why not? Arnie Dumbkin has his original birth certificate. What can he deny him?
I remember with fond memory Father Murray of Nativity of Our Lord parish in the 50s
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Please do not hold priests up as examples of the way to behave. I went to catholic school too, and the ones who werent' banging altar boys were sadistic power mongers. I didn't realize it then, but I know now. And no I wasn't molested, but I was beat on, and that is no way to treat a kid.
I watched the tape and in my 30 years as the police I never cried so hard.
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Cowboy up pal, there's a whole bunch of bad shit happening outside of your cubicle.
this is what happens when PARENTS/2 fail to teach moral values. i was tought at an early age to respect...parents,elders,police and other people and their property. there are consequences for doing the big nasty. also...we live in a selfish world. raise your kids or close your legs! responsible people are getting tired of paying double for the bullshitters for lifers. we need to stop bad behavior...not make PC excuses for it!!!!!!!!!
As a teacher who did once try to break up a fight and got a broken nose and black eye out of it, I feel no responsibility to ever do that again. If I hear a fight in the hall and my students start to move to the door, if any of them that leave, I lock the door behind them and let them get swept up in the bullshit.
I've been in this school where a teachers arm was broken, another was pushed down at stomped on (she had blurred vision for months and ended up not getting tenure). I didn't go to school for a job which involved combat pay - and I sure as hell don't get that
Chicago 2016 will solve all the problems!
I watched the tape and in my 30 years as the police I never cried so hard.
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hahahahahahaha "REAL" Police!!
Guns don't kill people, morons do!
Bring back the death penalty and fire up the chair!!!!!!
I need a scorecard for the video. It looks like a kid in red shorts cracks the guy in the red jacket over the head, red jacket then calmly turns, takes the 2x4 from him and cracks a third guy over the head knocking him down. The Three Stooges could not have done it better.
I've been in this school where a teachers arm was broken, another was pushed down at stomped on (she had blurred vision for months and ended up not getting tenure). I didn't go to school for a job which involved combat pay - and I sure as hell don't get that
You sound like a sensitive and caring woman-child, but don't cry out. Hold it in like polyester pants and survive. Look on the bright side. At least you have the satisfaction of being able to say to the world "I make a difference in my checking account today."
Why is there an outcry? This happens daily in 011 and 015. And that's just the grammer schools!
This evening, Jesse Jackson Sr. gave a scripted babble speak performance on Ch. 11's "Chicago Tonight" pointing out how the police "around the corner" didn't do enough to save the poor honor student's life. It's a conspiracy he says, with Burge and the CPD doing more to hold back the fine citizenry from immediately coming forward and doing the right thing than anything else. Too much pressure to act like human beings apparently. Nice of him to absolve the criminals for their behavior, seeing as how it all obviously didn't result from years of shit parenting and rabid moral bankruptcy. Mental illness is a bitch, and Jesse Sr. sounds and looks more like Bobby Rush's stunt double every day.
Those that never stepped in the ghetto, but have all the social answers from afar better watch this tape over and over. This is reality.
Coming to a safe neighborhood near you: Lumber Liquidators.
Where you can buy the CPS official weapons of choice at good discounts.
OH! OH! We better have lumber control! We need to ban selling and carrying lumber in Chicago.
Everyone should lock up any lumber they have so their kids cannot play with it and kill eachother.
Sound dumb? Listen to yourselves on guns.
It's not the implement - it's the people using them. Teach some values.
chicago may be bad for an american city but i don't think anyone would believe for a second that Rio de Janeiro isn't 100x worse.
I will say it. No one wants to but I will. This is what happens when you shut down the public housing facilities (projects) and integrate the institutionalized people that lived there in the neighborhoods!!.....
Ok....you knew THIS was coming......
When CHA FAILED,in 1994 to maintain Federal Certifications and Failed to properly maintain its units,funding was cut. Subsequently,Section 8 vouchers and "affordable housing"(at the behest of JESSE and Father Faker) was made available to these "unfortunates" They moved to what is called "scattered site housing" thruout Chicago and Illinois.And once quiet areas became shit holes all over again. Mearly closing the projects DIDNT solely cause the catastrophic increase in crime in these areas.
Housing was "closed" simply because of 2 MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTORS..
1. The CHA "police" was as corrupt and evil as the garbage living in the projects.
2. The beats surrounding the projects were overwhelmed with calls for service to other places besides the projects subsequently founding the "fuck it let them kill eachother" philosophy. Then in 2001,after numerous murders and gun related events,what was left of CHA decided that it was time to clean shit up. Statistically from 2001 to about 2008 there has been a steady DECLINE in "project related" events while scattered site areas crimes have increased. Im not in anyway saying that this decline can be interpreted as the projects being safer. Moreover it SHOULD be looked at as the criminal element being moved from the OBVIOUS area(project building) to the NOT SO OBVIOUS AREAS (scattered sites) If you care to, New York has a plan that I personally think will clean the remaining issues up in whats left of CHA housing.Google New York Public Housing Exclusion Lists. This plan has so far passed Legal Muster and might just actually work here in Chicago. More.....
HOUSING PART 2
While it can be argued that those that came from the projects are the root cause of these types of events, this is also true of the people that currently live in "nice" areas but have never risen above Ghetto mentality, that being surround,pound and run. It took 4 hard long years of BATTLE to clean a project up on the North Side of Chicago (Clyborne and Diversey)and there was, for a time, a VAST reduction in crime in that particular area. The key to cleaning these areas is, intense patrol and missions, cooperative efforts at EVICTION of those found not to be in compliance or of criminal convictions, and presence of the working police,not just a fat blonde in a uniform chewing gum. Since this area of Enforcement has been generally neglected(let em kill eachother) we now have to deal with the end result of such complacency.While none of us are babysitters,it is all we can do under the current administration. The time has come to send a message. I hate to say this but back in the day when I pounded thru Cabrini,Robert Taylor, Ikes,Stateway,Dearborns, Ogden Courts,Altgeld and others,this kind of animalistic behavior was IMMEDIATELY dealt with.They KNEW better than to fuck with us.Now, in the warm basking glow of Obama Summer,the hood rats are over empowered well armed and less educated than they were just a short time ago. They didnt close the projects,they just put them next door to innocent hard working TAXPAYING people that are fed up and have NO WAY of defending themselves against this jungle mentality. When the last building at RTH came down,I never thought Id live to see that day. I have.Im glad its gone. I lost a friend there. Mike Cerriale.What i DONT get is why the neighborhoods dont get IRATE at this behavior and resort to good old fashioned baseball bat beatings of the goofs that run wild?You know, TAKE YOUR STREETS BACK!!! When we rolled up on a crowd of these goofs they ran.Fast.Those that didnt or chose to be a spokesman met Coco Bolo,cuffs and the ground in that order. That was then. You will NEVER see that now and THAT pains me. I and my crew had "projects" and managed them well. YOU have the collateral fallout of that and cant do anything but complain and say "gee what can i do?" It wont,with THAT attitude, get any better it can ONLY get worse.You CAN stop this before it gets beyond Police control. But you had BETTER do it soon.
God Bless
Come Home in one piece
Give em hell.
A Housing Warrior
Anonymous said...
Please do not hold priests up as examples of the way to behave.
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You're right about the priest situation in the Catholic Church. The unsung hero's of teaching right from wrong were the Nuns..no one and nothing is perfect,but the Nuns were the work horses who did their best to keep us on the straight and narrow path. I mentioned Father Murray as a reminder to Da Mare of days gone by when he was respectable and respected, as opposed to the slimy business of politics and governing, slimy connections, general, all-around wallowing in slime that he understands so well. He disgusts me. God bless the men and women of the Chicago Police Dept. who work hard, figtht crime and keep us safe.
LATEST ,
WHITE HSE SAYS VIDEO WAS CHILLING..
WTF DOES THAT MEAN?
OMG THE AUDACITY !
SO WHEN THEY SHOT EACHOTHER ITS NOT AS BAD? SO ALL THE GANGS SHOOTIN AT COPS ISNT CHILLING ENOUGH?
PEOPLE DYIN EVERYDAY AND ITS NOT CHILLING ENOUGH,
OMG GIVE ME A PHUKIN BREAK...
How about that letter from one of the accused? The scum times headline was nice "Baby Momma was right" But his letter was priceless! My celly let me see his shower shoes? Sounds like love! And the grammar... He must be a Fenger honor student too!
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