Is it Over Yet?
- Two more former Chicago police officers pleaded guilty this morning to charges related to illegally searching drug dealers and gang suspects and stealing money from them.
Ex-Sgt. James McGovern pleaded guilty in Cook County Criminal Court to misdemeanor attempted obstruction of justice and was sentenced to two years probation, and former Officer Frank Villareal pleaded guilty to felony theft and was sentenced to four years probation.
That brings the number of guilty pleas so far in the probe of the former elite Special Operations Section of the Chicago Police Department to seven.
It's been a busy 10 days or so. And the main event is still to come. It looks like all the pleas are leading up to some supervisor culpability as hinted at in earlier stories this week.
If everyone who's supposed to cooperate does, and some supervisors catch an indictment or two, and all the motion hearings follow the typical schedule, we should be heading to trial just in time for the next contract negotiations. Odd how that works out.
If everyone who's supposed to cooperate does, and some supervisors catch an indictment or two, and all the motion hearings follow the typical schedule, we should be heading to trial just in time for the next contract negotiations. Odd how that works out.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
112 Comments:
Anyone know how I can get into one of those 'ELITE UNITS'????
Off topic: 3 blasted in 011 within 30 min or so. Happy Friday.
Now that they've all submitted their guilty pleas, when are the 'seizures' going to take place; when the court confiscates all proceeds from their ill-gotten gains???
Or is this gonna turn into another Cozzi deal, they've all offered their guilty pleas in the Cook County Court then going to be handed over to the Federal Courts for the Civil Rights violations, and jail time imposed there ???
Did anyone have the foresight to include that not happening in their plea agreement???
Figured it don't hurt to ask. . .
THEY FUKED ALL OF US!! SO FUK THEM I JUST HOPE IT GOES UP TO THE TOP HOCKEY PLAYER!!!
Jim McGovern is a hell of a good man. I'm afraid he is not the only good man that is going to get caught up in this nonsense. It is no coincidence, again and obviously, this is coming to a head at the time of contract negotiations.
and we wonder why the public hates us???? Wonder why our contract isnt settled??? Because We are our own worst enemies!! i have no pitty for these sos clowns
SCC:
This is why members of CPD have had it with this department. There are always two sets of rules for discipline (one for blueshirts and one for white shirts), two sets of rules for promotion (one for clout and one for no clout) etc.
Now the latest example. Look at the SOS plea deals. ALL the blueshirts got felony convictions. Today Villareal get's probation for his felony theft plea, BUT the Sgt. although he admitted also stealing cash (theft?)gets to plead to misdemeanor obstruction of justice. WTF!
He sounds like he had more involvement then the female P.O. who was outside watching dude when her team was robbing and stealing, and she still caught a felony.
The sergeant will still have his partial whiteshirt pension and no felony conviction to prevent him from landing meaningful employment in the future. All the blueshirts wear the "scarlet letter" for life!
See what I mean? Two sets of rules, two sets of outcomes!
***********************************
FREE COZZI
With school tuition to pay because we are stuck living in this city and we don't want our kids beat down at school, with taxes rising because we have to live in the city and with our salary not going up to flow with inflation, you sometimes create a criminal from a descent normal person. Contract!!!!
next stop research and development no more hiding out at 35th street.
It is not over.
None of these individuals have received immunity from the Federal prosecutors.
They still can be charged in Federal court if the Fed's desire.
They are between a rock and a hard place!
im sure all these greedy jagoffs will be indicted by the feds
They are criminals plain and simple. They are not the police. MAny had the CLOUT which usually brings about problems in the end. Arrogance oure and simple
Why take ONE shot at the CPD when they can embarrass the CPD over and over and so on and so on...
Funny how they can never seem to catch the Stuttering Prick doing ANYTHING!!!
Tunnel vision?
Corruption in the police department?
It is NO EXCUSE, BUT it is a fact that people become LIKE their leaders. The Law of Association dictates that you will become like the people and information you spend the most time with.
This is why members of CPD have had it with this department. There are always two sets of rules for discipline (one for blueshirts and one for white shirts), two sets of rules for promotion (one for clout and one for no clout) etc.
=========
He was a PO on the team when all this took place. This isn't the team Sergeant.
=======
=======
=======
He sounds like he had more involvement then the female P.O. who was outside watching dude when her team was robbing and stealing, and she still caught a felony.
=======
Her prints were inside the safe. That constitutes felony involvement. McG was on paper - he was probably the guy outside watching the prisoner, not her.
Keep working your asses off and see where it gets you. In front of the police board or the joint. Or if you have less than 2 years on and a juice box you can go to the super elite Tac or the Burglary team or whatever the fuck 06 car. 20 if you can make it and out!!!!!
Anonymous said...
With school tuition to pay because we are stuck living in this city and we don't want our kids beat down at school, with taxes rising because we have to live in the city and with our salary not going up to flow with inflation, you sometimes create a criminal from a descent normal person. Contract!!!!
9/26/2009 04:04:00 AM
You actually believe that the new contract is the answer? That Daley will give us a generous raise with benefits? Sorry to burst your bubble but a new contract might help us keep up with basic increases in utilities and taxes. If you live on the north side, try a public school. Otherwise, part itme jobs, officer.
next stop research and development no more hiding out at 35th street.
9/26/2009 04:42:00 AM
___________________________________
What are you talking about? No one from SOS is hiding out at research and development. I can only assume you are talking about MT which he is the ADS of the Bureau of Administration.
ACCOUNTABILITY=BOSSES
THEFT?
THAT THE BEST CHARGE? TALK ABOUT COPPING A PLEA...
MAY BE ALL UNITS SHOULD BE BY BID IT SEEMS THAT THE CITY ISNT CAPABLE OF PICKING A HARDWORKING NON-STEALING BUNCH 4 THEIR ELITE UNITS.
DONT FEEL BAD PEOPLE THE CITIZENS NEVER LIKED THE POLICE.
JUST LIKE WE DONT LIKE THE MAYOR AND ALDERMAN.
WE NEED TO FOCUS ON OURSELVES AND R CONTRACT AND NOT WORRY ABOUT BEING LOVED LIKE A SUPERHERO.
In 1978, I was in the Police Academy and we had a guest speaker for a class on corruption. It centered on cops taking traffic money. He started out by saying that it was OKAY to take money on traffic stops!
After we all picked up our jaws off the desks and stopped sayin "WHAAAAATT DID HE SAY?", he began again. Long story short, he started writing dollar amounts on the blackboard...
This is what it will cost you to hire an attorney to defend you, (pre-union, no legal defense fund)...
This is the amount you will lose in pay while suspended and waiting for trial, ($14,700 a yr. in 1978), ...
This is how much you will lose when your wife divorces you (alimony, child support)...
This is how much you will lose when they foreclose on your house...
This is how much you it will cost you for a court trial...
When he finished adding up the column of numbers, it totaled around $100,000, (big money in 1978 dollars!). He concluded by saying that if we STILL wanted to take traffic money, go right ahead, but we should at least get $100,000 a pop to cover the inevitable costs!
Anonymous said...
SCC:
This is why members of CPD have had it with this department. There are always two sets of rules for discipline (one for blueshirts and one for white shirts), two sets of rules for promotion (one for clout and one for no clout) etc.
Now the latest example. Look at the SOS plea deals. ALL the blueshirts got felony convictions. Today Villareal get's probation for his felony theft plea, BUT the Sgt. although he admitted also stealing cash (theft?)gets to plead to misdemeanor obstruction of justice. WTF!
He sounds like he had more involvement then the female P.O. who was outside watching dude when her team was robbing and stealing, and she still caught a felony.
The sergeant will still have his partial whiteshirt pension and no felony conviction to prevent him from landing meaningful employment in the future. All the blueshirts wear the "scarlet letter" for life!
See what I mean? Two sets of rules, two sets of outcomes!
Read the charges, The Sgt. got charged with attempted misdemeanor obstruction of justice. Not theft or official misconduct. He never was charged with stealing money.
This is a good little reminder of how guys turn on each other no matter how good of a friend you thought someone was. These assholes in SOS are no better than the gang banger that sings like a bird when you get him in a room all by himself. They are all little bitches and thieves no matter how GOOD OF A GUY you thought they were. They made this job that much tougher for the rest of us legit coppers!
Nothing like showing us in the best possible light during contract time and arbitration.
James McGovern is a great guy and was a great copper. Its a shame but if you dont take probation you can get Fucked later, he has moved on from this job anyway.
Remember when SOS were a curb to curb unit. The commanders and Lts. would not let them do search warrants, big dope, etc.?
Who began letting them take this path? Which supe?
Those police officers and others involved had no knowledge of big dope- how the "G" uses snitches to get at the police. The "G" has wire taps up and these officers are running into the wires.
What a shame to let these officers go down that path. Where were the supervisors??
old retired guy
Jim McGovern is a hell of a good man. I'm afraid he is not the only good man that is going to get caught up in this nonsense.
He's not bad on the eyes either, one heck of a self-taught barber -- does the styling too. Grey mutton chop side-burns sure get my D3 up. Stanley's is sure gonna miss him. Big tipper.
It is no coincidence, again and obviously, this is coming to a head at the time of contract negotiations.
Contract negotiations? That implies dialog between the FLOP and Shitty. Deep kissing doesn't count.
E-Learning can now be access at your home computer.
However, if you are ordered to do any on-line training when off duty complete a time due slip, submit it and a send a copy to the union.
Protect your work rights and the contract!
Anonymous said...
Jim McGovern is a hell of a good man. I'm afraid he is not the only good man that is going to get caught up in this nonsense. It is no coincidence, again and obviously, this is coming to a head at the time of contract negotiations.
9/26/2009 01:00:00 AM
_______________________________
I guess we have different opinions of what a good man is.
Funny how the number of cops indicted pales in comparison to the ALDERMEN consistanly indicted.
Corruption capital of the USA and home of President Obama. Chicago 2016? HA!
ALL of these guys are fucked! and rightfully so..all have been an embarrassment to this department.! wait until the feds indict them and the IRS goes after them for taxes and penalties on their ill gotten income..they will all be selling street wise.
and part of thier plea deal includes them assisting the authorities with the on going investigation...and whooooo was it that made Jim McGovern "meritorious Sgt"...none other than MT....hummm getting alil nervous Matt..????
O.T. Guys do you know how easy this job would be if Daley or
J-Fed gave the same order as the Mayor of Wellford S.C. gave? A "NO FOOT CHASE" order. You would never arrest anyone because they would ALL run.
This is far from over. This has just begun. All these pleas mean someone bigger then Finnigan is going down on this one. They might wait until after the Olympic city is announced but remember you heard it hear first, a gold star will go down on this one.
Remember the Feds arrested the governor. Don't think for one minute they won't prosecute a gold star!
We have enough to deal with and don't need those assholes on this job. Thanks for making my job a lot more difficult ass wipes. On the bright side it moves me up in seniority.
Will people stop calling this an "elite" unit. It's just a tac team with clout. Oh yea. So where is all that clout now? Nobody stepping up? Thought so. 19B
Is this the same investigation in which the former ADS of internal affairs admitted that he lied repeatedly on depositions? That he covered up for these guys?
There was nothing elite about SOS.
SCC,
I'm sure you've been forwarded the Suntimes article regarding how the Captain's and Lt.'s union has approved their contract which includes a "pay freeze" thru 2012. Nice to see how we all stick together. This only makes the FOP and the rest of us look like winers. Most people won't understand that Capt's and Lt's have a "me too" clause and get whatever raise we are awarded through the arbitrator. But meanwhile Daley will have a plenty of ammunition for the media.
Can't wait until next year when Daley requires these jagoffs to take two furlough days a month and they say they can't afford it.
But hey go out and get your mover and a couple parkers for these guys because they have your back.
This department is going down the toilet so fast it's not even funny anymore.
I'm not happy they got caught.
I'm not happy they did it
I'm not happy they plead guilty
I'm not happy some ratted on others
I don't wish anything else to happen to them after the plea (seizures).
Nobody can make you look bad except you.
I do wish that they would get this over with, do what is going to be done and lets get on with life.
/26/2009 12:26:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Off topic: 3 blasted in 011 within 30 min or so. Happy Friday.
9/26/2009 12:27:00 AM
BS, That's impossible: Penny T. is now there!
God bless Jake - hope the cloud passes him by.
Did I really see the 003 has 35 openings? Holy Shit! Must be some great bosses to work for there.
Help me!!!
How does COZZI get 6 years for 1 misd battery and the 7 SOS officers get a max of 6 months for multiple felonys?
No, it's not over yet.
So far, seven guilty pleas for committing a lot of felonys.
How is it possible that the exempts running this out of control unit during this time period have subsequently received multiple promotions worth hundreds of thousands of dollars in salary and pensions?
Thanks for showing us what it means to NOT lead with integrity.
P.S. I am sure the ones leading this unit had no indication this was going on during their watch. The HUNDREDS of CRs for THEFT would have given you NO clue that maybe these officers were in need of increased supervision or discipline.
(4) Homie cides in 011 W/I 24 hours....you gotta love it!! Chalkie is gearing up for the Olympic announcement!!
I've said it before and I'm saying it again. THIS WILL GO NO FUTHER THAN A SGT OR TWO!!!!! There are two sets of rules in this dept./city/county/state and anybody over the rank of sgt. from SOS get's to live and work by that other set.
Villareal? I hope it is not the one I know.
I guess it is kind of hard for these guys to stick together when they are facing charges of Armed Violence (unless that one was deemed unconstitutional, I think it was), Armed Robbery w/ firearm, Official Misconduct, possibly Kidnapping (or unlawful restraint).
Ah ... we'll give you probation or you can spend $100K and 3 years of your miserable life to fight the charges ..... YOUR CHOICE .....
um .... I'll take the plea ... what do you want me to say?
SONS OF SGT'S...95% of the guys in that unit were arrogant tools who were politically connected, and if they ever say they weren't they are bold faced liars!!! With that said, I still don't want to see policemen put themselves in this situation and at the same time embarass the rest of us.
If you werent there stfu. You know nothing about the situation other than what you read in the paper. This case was horsheshit at best from the beginning. Why do you think people that were facing hundreds of years in jail are getting probation. They said whatever they needed to to save their asses. If this case was so great why did it take the feds so long to get involved and at this point other than one guy they arent. You cant have it both ways criticizing the media one day then believing everything you read the next. Go get a copy of the transcripts and talk to someone that was there then you can decide for yourself what really went on. Until then shut up because to people that were there the things you say make you look like a moron.
These guys are THUG CRIMINALS. Pure and simple. Their actions stain all of us decent officers who do our work diligently and then go home to our families.
I have no sympathy for them. We have a great job, with great benefits and JOB SECURITY. Yet these ass clowns couldn't have enough?
thanks a lot assholes, makes it just that much harder for those of us that try to do the job right.
O.T.:
A little birdie told me this was The Burger Queen spending some quality time with her friend on her birthday...
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=120554701784
It explains EVERYTHING...
David Snethen said...
"...I do wish that they would get this over with, do what is going to be done and lets get on with life."
9/26/2009 01:07:00 PM
The G just takes pleasure in leaving them twisting in the wind. Besides, the longer it plays out, the more investigation it APPEARS that they have done. They sure do think of themselves as awesome.
David Snethen said...
I'm not happy they got caught.
I'm not happy they did it
I'm not happy they plead guilty
I'm not happy some ratted on others
I don't wish anything else to happen to them after the plea (seizures).
Nobody can make you look bad except you.
I do wish that they would get this over with, do what is going to be done and lets get on with life.
"Nobody can make you look bad except you"-you do realize that this is CPD where a person's character can be distorted into anything they want, if you get enough people on the bandwagon. Just wanted to clarify.
They knew what they were doing and did it, anyway. May Justice be done and yes, everyone needs to live their life in spite of this.
With my 2K arrests I couldn't get into SOS without a phone call. All these phone call assholes fucked over the hard working cops with there criminal bullshit. They could all rot in federal prison.
Rue St. Michel said...
God bless Jake - hope the cloud passes him by.
9/26/2009 01:08:00 PM
The cloud is currently hovering over Blake's head and it is about to produce a thunderstorm of epic proportions.
the police officers of today are more informed than in the past..
example:in the late 1950s my dad was going into a diabetic coma on the street over by damen & evergreen..he was beaten and locked up as a drunk.
(remember waiting for him with my mom to come home when i was a kid)
today officers obviously are much more informed as to insulin and diabetes..to bad it wasnt put to better use.
train me,teach me,show me..uughh..
those days are gone..now it's every man for himself..you better reach out and grab all the knowledge you can.
Anonymous said...
Help me!!!
How does COZZI get 6 years for 1 misd battery and the 7 SOS officers get a max of 6 months for multiple felonys?
9/26/2009 01:21:00 PM
EXACTLY!!!!!
Now, the next time the Bubblehead Fed has one of his double secret exempt meetings and says "Why is the morale still soooo low?" will one of you gold star goofs please read the above statement to him! PLEASE!!!
Beware of Jody Weis' statement that he wants all so called "nuisance" lawsuits fought and not settled.
This has the potential of putting more police officers on the hook for punitive damages. Nothing will change behavior of an entire police department faster than reaching deep into officers' pockets to pay a punitive damage award.
Weis and Daley know this. Beware officers, statements from Weis are not what they seem. If you get sued, pay for a private attorney to advise you if the City provided attorney is telling you the truth or not. That is money well spent.
Think many officers work hard at several jobs now to pay tuition, mortgage etc? Add a loan to cover punitive damage award and every one of that officer's co-workers will be hearing the story and making their own decisions.
The spectre of punitive damages has the potential to slow down already diminished police activity even further.
This I know.
E-Learning can now be access at your home computer.
They are likely to have you do the
E-learning at home as most of our district's computers are down.
Some of which have been down for months.
Another McGovern of the great Patronage Hack McGovern's of the
19th Ward? Isn't Rugai their Aunt or something ? Yeah, They are all real geniuses, just ask em.
They are criminals plain and simple. They are not the police. MAny had the CLOUT which usually brings about problems in the end. Arrogance oure and simple
To all you guys in MSF, Tru, and Gangs, do it right or don't do it at all. No assignment or award is worth your freedom. Many will justify things by saying "you gotta do what you gotta do to catch the bad guy." Well, don't be the one to give up your freedom for this point. Work within the system and if it fails let them change it. We are all willing to sacrifice our lives but don't sacrifice your families future and honor, especially not for this society..Peace and God Bless you all..
Off Topic:
Don't forget to appeal your property tax assessments by 05 October in Jefferson Park Township.
Don't give the Outfit/Machine an extra dime!
Anonymous said...
Remember the Feds arrested the governor. Don't think for one minute they won't prosecute a gold star!
9/26/2009 12:24:00 PM
They arrested the governor to spare the President!
This could be the tip of the iceberg or the sinking of the Titanic, depending upon circumstances. The Mayor holds all the power people and it is his decision whether it goes full circle or not.
Anyone assigned to the former SOS can kiss any career aspirations goodbye.
This scandal goes much deeper than this team and the few that have been publicly named. The tentacles of the octopus extend deeply into many other units and many other influential places.
The Feds know this and are quietly awaiting instructions.
Does anybody remember the shitty CHA police in the 80s and 90s?? They sucked ass.
In the mid 90s, these CHA hand-gallops were disbanded. SOS took over project patrol. SOS found more guns that first weekend than those other goofs found the previous year.
I'm retired 620, and was always happy whenever an SOS caravan was at Gator Gardens. They made our job easier in a very unsafe place to work.
This news makes me sick. How could this happen??
Has anyone seen the video on fox that captures the killing at Fenger HS?? Here it is:
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/
dpp/news/metro/video_
derrion_albert
FU#KING ANIMALS.
Over ? Over ? Nothing is over till we say it's over.
...Anonymous said...
SCC,
I'm sure you've been forwarded the Sun-Times article regarding how the Captain's and Lt.'s union has approved their contract which includes a "pay freeze" thru 2012.
Once and for all, the Captains and Lieutenants will get the same raises that the Rank and File get. Fragmented like this each bargaining unit cannot negotiate a separate raise.
Meanwhile Shortshanks is collecting the interest and hiding in TIF Fund for his 'Limpic contractor friends.
Retro Check my ass, it all part of the Daley Crime Family strategy to keep us off balance and separated while they hold onto OUR money.
Watch what jobs the FOP President and board members get when this is all over with.
Probation? sounds like they have a week case to settle for such weak sentances.
Goal seems to be to get any conviction as it still counts as a win for the ASA and they can say how they convicted corrupt cops.
and the cops lose thier jobs
How does COZZI get 6 years for 1 misd battery and the 7 SOS officers get a max of 6 months for multiple felonys?
HOW TRUE!
With school tuition to pay because we are stuck living in this city and we don't want our kids beat down at school, with taxes rising because we have to live in the city and with our salary not going up to flow with inflation, you sometimes create a criminal from a descent normal person. Contract!!!!
9/26/2009 04:04:00 AM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I feel you!
Mr. Mayor, how much stress is created by the fucked up politics of this city? Yeah, we should all probably be better money managers, but to subject us to two years without a pay raise and without a contract puts even the best of money managers under pressure.
We've got pressure from our own Department, pressure from the rising crime rates- we're watching kids die in the streets - it's out of control - and the financial pressure created as the cost of living increases and we're becoming less and less able to provide for our families. We work hard every day. No matter if you're the biggest dog-ass or the supercop, when we put on that uniform and walk out that door as a Chicago Police Officer, our lives are on the line. WE DESERVE BETTER. We deserve to not have to haggle about our salaries, Mr. Mayor. We do our jobs every day. Every day! If we don't protect your city, WHO THE HELL WILL? Show us some goddamn respect, why don't you. Give us what we deserve. I really don't think that you want morale at this level when your precious Olympics comes here. You better wake up!
O.T.:
A little birdie told me this was The Burger Queen spending some quality time with her friend on her birthday...
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=120554701784
It explains EVERYTHING...
+++++++++++++++++++++
Get a life!
The Burger Queen is going to laugh her way - all the way to the bank, Dipshit!
Anyone assigned to the former SOS can kiss any career aspirations goodbye
Sure, just ask Deputy Chief Tobias, Deputy Chief Guilliford and Deputy Superintendent Dugan...all were there - one as a PO, Lt. and a Commander, one as a Lt and a Commander and one as a Commander. Their career paths seem to be doing pretty good.
Rue St. Michel said...
God bless Jake - hope the cloud passes him by.
9/26/2009 01:08:00 PM
The cloud is currently hovering over Blake's head and it is about to produce a thunderstorm of epic proportions.
Jake is truly a very decent human being, but human just like the rest of us. One fault he had was he loved working cops and loved working right along side with them, and sometimes didn't see the forrest for the trees. He took care of everyone on his watch, and if anyone (Hopkins) speaks ill of him he/she should burn.
I/F
Anonymous said...
O.T.:
A little birdie told me this was The Burger Queen spending some quality time with her friend on her birthday...
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=120554701784
It explains EVERYTHING...
+++++++++++++++++++++
Get a life!
The Burger Queen is going to laugh her way - all the way to the bank, Dipshit!
9/26/2009 11:55:00 PM
+++++++++++++++
Oh take a chill pill you dumb fuck..it was meant as LEVITY...
Look it up, I'm sure your dumbass slack-jawed mental capacity just went into overload with that multi-syllabic word.
Jim McGovern is a hell of a good man. I'm afraid he is not the only good man that is going to get caught up in this nonsense. It is no coincidence, again and obviously, this is coming to a head at the time of contract negotiations.
9/26/2009 01:00:00 AM
Agree. The same goes for Jake. I feel for these guys and hope it all turns out alright for them in the big picture beyond this job.
Help me!!!
How does COZZI get 6 years for 1 misd battery and the 7 SOS officers get a max of 6 months for multiple felonys?
9/26/2009 01:21:00 PM
________________________________
The Feds are not going to let these guys go it's not over . Just because they plead to the state charges doesn't mean the fed aren't going to charge .
Anonymous said...
If you werent there stfu. You know nothing about the situation other than what you read in the paper. This case was horsheshit at best from the beginning. Why do you think people that were facing hundreds of years in jail are getting probation. They said whatever they needed to to save their asses. If this case was so great why did it take the feds so long to get involved and at this point other than one guy they arent. You cant have it both ways criticizing the media one day then believing everything you read the next. Go get a copy of the transcripts and talk to someone that was there then you can decide for yourself what really went on. Until then shut up because to people that were there the things you say make you look like a moron.
No I sure wasn't there as well as a lot of others. But we're not moron's or empty-heads either. Nice try though. Ya see, Keith Herrera was there, and with the bit he had to say on National TV is enough to make a believer out of a lot of us.
So no, we won't STFU, perhaps instead you need be exercising those gluteus maximus muscles!!!
Anonymous said...
How does COZZI get 6 years for 1 misd battery and the 7 SOS officers get a max of 6 months for multiple felonys?
HOW TRUE!
9/26/2009 11:12:00 PM
Cozzi did get charged locally and received probation. AFTER that was said and done JFED turned the file over to the FEDS and it became a FEDERAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATION case that's where the 6 year sentence came into play.
Mow that's why a lot of people are speculating all THESE plea deals to become FEDERAL cases, with serious jail time and additional consequences.
I'm a retired Sgt. I know almost all involved as well as Dave Snethen, who I had the honor of working with. He hits it on the head - this has nothing to do with blue shirts vs. white shirts, gold badges, etc. It has to do with tarnished badges that reflect poorly on all of us that wear or have worn those badges. I think his comment says it all. What a shame!
Read the charges, The Sgt. got charged with attempted misdemeanor obstruction of justice. Not theft or official misconduct. He never was charged with stealing money.
9/26/2009 08:11:00 AM
*************************************
NO SHIT DUMBFUCK! NOW read my statement again.
"BUT the Sgt. although he admitted also stealing cash (theft?)gets to plead to misdemeanor obstruction of justice. WTF!"
WHY WASN'T HE CHARGED WITH A THEFT HE ADMITTED TO COMMITTING?
Oh because he's a sergeant, that's why!
"When policemen break the law, there is no law, only the fight for survival".
Billy Jack
These guys are THUG CRIMINALS. Pure and simple. Their actions stain all of us decent officers who do our work diligently and then go home to our families.
I have no sympathy for them. We have a great job, with great benefits and JOB SECURITY. Yet these ass clowns couldn't have enoug
----------------------------------- Hey 2 year wonder, wait til ur ass is sued or u take a few days for making a decision you thought at the time was the right one. My FTO said it best 17 years ago, "You might love this job but never forget, it will never love you back"
the "g" isn't the only one who likes to leave you twisting in the wind--- our very own on the fifth floor at 3510 s michigan also like to leave you twisting in the wind like a tattered flag... unless you got a chinaman to call to get you out of that windstorm....
Ok. Hate to bring this up. But here goes. Mc Govorn is a nice guy. I hate to see any of these guy in this type of trouble but they brought it on themselves. Now we have to suffer because of the tarnished badge.
By the way. I am pretty sure that Mc Govorn was a merit Sgt. What does that tell you about the merit system. Again j fed says its part of the collective bargaining agreement. Of which it is and I am not totally against merit. But the city does not have to use the entire 30 percent. It is silly how merit is used but I an tired of beating a dead horse.
What about the SOS cousin Lieutenants, the R boys. The now commander was a PO and SGT in SOS and # 1 cousin former SOS sgt turned LT shit canned all the court deveations so JF and company could continue the campaign. All he got was a dump to tac LT in a district back in the 19th ward. Now that's clout!!!! Ginger, you go girl!!!
If you werent there stfu. You know nothing about the situation other than what you read in the paper. This case was horsheshit at best from the beginning. Why do you think people that were facing hundreds of years in jail are getting probation. They said whatever they needed to to save their asses. If this case was so great why did it take the feds so long to get involved and at this point other than one guy they arent. You cant have it both ways criticizing the media one day then believing everything you read the next. Go get a copy of the transcripts and talk to someone that was there then you can decide for yourself what really went on. Until then shut up because to people that were there the things you say make you look like a moron.
----------------------------------
No you "stfu". We have a right to be angry, we have a right to speak out. I know most of the guys who are involved and I don't care for most of them. But thats personally, professionally they embarassed us I have no sympathy and you have NOOOOO right to tell anyone what they can and can't say about this.
Anonymous said...
These guys are THUG CRIMINALS. Pure and simple. Their actions stain all of us decent officers who do our work diligently and then go home to our families.
I have no sympathy for them. We have a great job, with great benefits and JOB SECURITY. Yet these ass clowns couldn't have enoug
----------------------------------- Hey 2 year wonder, wait til ur ass is sued or u take a few days for making a decision you thought at the time was the right one. My FTO said it best 17 years ago, "You might love this job but never forget, it will never love you back"
9/27/2009 06:46:00 AM
The 2 yrs wonders have no clue, hey kids what you do today even if your 100% right WILL haunt you in the future! Be careful what you do and what you say! Don't worry though the brass has your back as they twist the knife deeper!
"Hey 2 year wonder, wait til ur ass is sued or u take a few days for making a decision you thought at the time was the right one."
=====================================
So, when have you ever thought that stealing or helping somebody else steal was the "right decision"? Have you thought that a lot?
In 1978, I was in the Police Academy and we had a guest speaker for a class on corruption. It centered on cops taking traffic money. He started out by saying that it was OKAY to take money on traffic stops!
After we all picked up our jaws off the desks and stopped sayin "WHAAAAATT DID HE SAY?", he began again. Long story short, he started writing dollar amounts on the blackboard...
This is what it will cost you to hire an attorney to defend you, (pre-union, no legal defense fund)...
This is the amount you will lose in pay while suspended and waiting for trial, ($14,700 a yr. in 1978), ...
This is how much you will lose when your wife divorces you (alimony, child support)...
This is how much you will lose when they foreclose on your house...
This is how much you it will cost you for a court trial...
When he finished adding up the column of numbers, it totaled around $100,000, (big money in 1978 dollars!). He concluded by saying that if we STILL wanted to take traffic money, go right ahead, but we should at least get $100,000 a pop to cover the inevitable costs!
______---------________
Nicely done.
I'm not happy they got caught.
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Why? Would it be better if they DIDN'T get caught?
Are you unhappy when other thieves get caught? If not, why not?
Or are you saying that stealing isn't wrong, just that it's wrong for the wrong people to steal?
Jim McGovern is a hell of a good man. I'm afraid he is not the only good man that is going to get caught up in this nonsense. It is no coincidence, again and obviously, this is coming to a head at the time of contract negotiations.
9/26/2009 01:00:00 AM
Agree. The same goes for Jake. I feel for these guys and hope it all turns out alright for them in the big picture beyond this job.
9/27/2009 01:03:00 AM
Both = Corrupt Prima-Donas
No I sure wasn't there as well as a lot of others. But we're not moron's or empty-heads either. Nice try though. Ya see, Keith Herrera was there, and with the bit he had to say on National TV is enough to make a believer out of a lot of us.
Oh ok so someone thats accused of numerous counts of lying and stealing goes on TV and you believe every word he said. So yes you are a moron and you do have an empty head. So I guess you also believe the ghetto spokespeople at police shootings when they say he didnt have a gun the police just gunned him down. Admit it you are a sheep that is spoon fed your info from the media. Hey it must be true it was on tv. STUPID!
Rue St. Michel said...
God bless Jake - hope the cloud passes him by.
------------
a BIG GFY sent your way.
He was the poison that urged those F's to do what they did. GFY and F him, too.
No I sure wasn't there as well as a lot of others. But we're not moron's or empty-heads either. Nice try though. Ya see, Keith Herrera was there, and with the bit he had to say on National TV is enough to make a believer out of a lot of us.
So no, we won't STFU, perhaps instead you need be exercising those gluteus maximus muscles!!!
9/27/2009 01:44:00 AM
As a citizen,
I,cannot believe your answer is because,Herrera said so.WTF !!!
"if you want to know who you are, act. Actions will define who you are."
Anonymous said...
There was nothing elite about SOS.
9/26/2009 01:03:00 PM
******************
What about them ELITE Gang and Tact Teams? Particularly from the northside!
Soft yes but many less CR's than the so called elite units!
Promote ME!
hey kids what you do today even if your 100% right WILL haunt you in the future!
-----------------------------------
Its doubtful that being 100% right will get you in trouble. Its the 25-75% right situations that cause the grief.
Probation? sounds like they have a week case to settle for such weak sentances.
or there is more to it than meets the eye at first glance.
Goal seems to be to get any conviction as it still counts as a win for the ASA and they can say how they convicted corrupt cops.
while giving the coppers a very minimal sentence compared to their alleged crimes. which I guess would no longer be considered alleged.
and the cops lose thier jobs
not an insubstantial penalty
how about pleading not guilty, the judge throwing out charges due to insufficient evidence and inconsistencies on the part of the prosecution, winning the case in a court of law and still the police board finds you guilty of the same exact charges you were acquited of. what a fuckin joke and a bunch of inexperienced, no-idea-of-what-its-like-to-be-the-police, douche bag puppets the police board is. fuck you too jody dumbfuck!
P.S. I am sure the ones leading this unit had no indication this was going on during their watch. The HUNDREDS of CRs for THEFT would have given you NO clue that maybe these officers were in need of increased supervision or discipline
_____________________________
Hundreds? there were 32 theft allegations over 3 1/2 years. there were tons of beefs but not for thefts. the usual b.s. beefs were coming in everything but 32 beefs for theft is about 9 a year for a unit of about 300. not defending anyone but before you claim hundreds of beefs for theft get your numbers right. hundreds for brutality, verbal, and unlawful stops etc. not sayin its right, but get your facts right.
This is how much you it will cost you for a court trial...
When he finished adding up the column of numbers, it totaled around $100,000, (big money in 1978 dollars!). He concluded by saying that if we STILL wanted to take traffic money, go right ahead, but we should at least get $100,000 a pop to cover the inevitable costs!
______---------________
Nicely done.
9/27/2009 12:00:00 PM
Another old time rambling story. In 1978 theft was an accepted practice so who you bullshitting.
To: "Nicely Done". The end was back in 1972-73. They hired a loser named Mitchell Ware, now deceased, who started a anti-corruption unit called C-5. Old man Daley wanted to put a stop to "traffic money". He did. Unfortunately a new "money" evolved from society called "Dope money" which has fucked up more coppers than bullets have over the years. The new money today is slip money "yellow slip money" and for you guys in 017, remember "A penny saved is a penny earned".
P.S. I am sure the ones leading this unit had no indication this was going on during their watch. The HUNDREDS of CRs for THEFT would have given you NO clue that maybe these officers were in need of increased supervision or discipline.
9/26/2009 01:32:00 PM
The Theft beefs went to the district of occurrence for investigation. Once in the district, they could not be reassigned to SOS without the accused officer's full name, car number, or photo identification. Many savvy district supervisors then started to log the locations and outside numbers of SOS cars when they saw them. Unfortunately, I believe the retention on the logs was only 90 days.
I'll try again - McGovern a great guy - I don't think so! I'm an old timer but turning state's evidence against your partner to save your own ass makes you a RAT - if you think thats a great guy I'm glad i never worked with you!
Anonymous said...
I'll try again - McGovern a great guy - I don't think so! I'm an old timer but turning state's evidence against your partner to save your own ass makes you a RAT - if you think thats a great guy I'm glad i never worked with you!
9/29/2009 11:58:00 PM
you may be an old timer, and if you think these guys had any choice in the matter your fucking nuts. Once one person talks, they all have to talk. I hope you get to retire soon. The time of not ratting is gone, this department wnats that. So give them want they want.
121
Jake was there for anyone who needed him..a great boss, a great mentor, an honorable guy who never took a dime. He wanted guns off the street. He was there for his staff-hundreds of them- and to think that they will throw him under the bus to save their own asses is DESPICABLE. We had better be there if he needs us..as he was there for us when we needed him. Where is the honor? He had our backs and we should have his. I, for one- will speak highly of this man. The rest of you should be ashamed of yourselves.
Post a Comment
<< Home