Real Numbers?
Interesting numbers, crunched by someone who can work a computer:
- In 2008 there were 7,253 p.o.s assigned to districts 001 thru 025,exactly one year there are now 6,649. That is a loss of 604 officers in one year. How much more can be done to the officers and the department. Remember this when you are looking for backup on a call. Be safe and go home to your families. They have made us expendable.
District manpower is low and getting lower every day. And an interesting take on those numbers by a commentator:
- How many of those POs work inside? Or how many are assigned to the district but detailed elsewhere? What about the callback dodgers that can't work full duty spots? Or the watch secretaries that are being hidden by the watch commanders?
My point is there might be 6,600 plus POs in the districts, but there are far less actually working the streets. 5 at the desk, 2 to 3 in male and female lockups a piece, front office, caps, secretaries, traffic missions, coffee car, and any other whim the watch commander might have.
And a pointed observation:
- Is there any other organization in this country that does not know how many people work for it?
You can bet if IBM or GM wanted to know how many people work in their offices or on their assembly lines, the number is there at the touch of a button. Why is it like pulling teeth here?
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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And all the school cars..
and now all the beat cars down at the school dismissal.
The Smoke and Mirrors continues! We are budgeted for 13,500. Two for J-fraud, cause he’s doing such a great job as Supt and what else???? Then one check for everyone else, even if that person isn’t here. Be it a patrolman, a Detective (making a little more than a patrolman) a Sergeant (who makes slightly more $), a Lieutenant (making even more), or a Captain (getting the picture?)
Since Hillard, then Cline, now J-fraud, the mantra has been “More (work) with less (officers)” but the budget doesn’t change. Hhhmmmm…. Enquiring minds want to know…. Where’s the money going to? “Da Limpiks”?
Smoke and mirrors...
A little off-topic, but SCC is like crack...you can't wait til the new topics get added each night. Just got my fix...
Interesting numbers??? Crunched by someone who can work a computer???
Well I'm no computer whiz, but I can tell you that at the start of 2009 the new Gang Enforcement Unit took all the district's gang teams and assigned them to Organized Crime Division. That's (16) P.O.'s and (2) Sgts. from each district x 25 = 450 P.O.'s.
These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are.
So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
In response to the numbers, we are talking about the officers that get the parking job all the way to the person shot. Not vice, gang, narcotics or any other specialized unit. The officers that are "the backbone" of the department. In the districts minus, the front office, c.a.p.s, desk personel, lock up and the tac/district mission teams. divide by three watches, in most cases seven d.o.g.'s do not forget medical, furlough, or i.o.d. time. That is why ther are no officers on the street and response times is high and back up is absent. Remeber the time wen there was enough (and there is a need) for the school unit. How about when officers use to do traffic controll. Not traffic aids they are a cheap officer replacement.
"Is there any other organization in this country that does not know how many people work for it?"
Yeah, CTA, CPS, Streets and San, etc.
Hmmmmm, could this be a pattern?
Shouldn't all of these numbers be easily available at the touch of a button at the pension board?
Or has Daley silenced our reps there, also?
Care to comment, Mike Shields? We'll keep it under our hats, if necessary!
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST!!!!
HEY NEWS MEDIA!
WHERE ARE YOU?
"Why is it like pulling teeth here?"
because:
1. the taxpayers are involuntary consumers
2. the non taxpayers are enthusiastic consumers
3. the economic element of free market competition is absent
4. the concept of 'buyer beware' seems to have been forgotten, specifically on election days, by the taxpaying electorate
5. since the non taxpayers are not affected by the burden of paying taxes, their participation in the non competitive marketplace, via their voting habits, is one of the root causes of the taxpayers' woes
government is the only 'service' where those who pay for it have little control over what they get for their dinero
Because Daley lies so often he no longer has a grasp on reality & truth.
Fuck Daley
Fuck masters
THOSE NUMBERS ARE BULLSHIIT! THERE'S WAAAY MORE PO'S ON THIS DEPT. THAN THAT.
JUST CHECK THE FRONT AND CAPS OFFICES IN 016.
You can bet if IBM or GM wanted to know how many people work in their offices or on their assembly lines, the number is there at the touch of a button. Why is it like pulling teeth here?
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you actually have to ask?
Well I'm no computer whiz, but I can tell you that at the start of 2009 the new Gang Enforcement Unit took all the district's gang teams and assigned them to Organized Crime Division. That's (16) P.O.'s and (2) Sgts. from each district x 25 = 450 P.O.'s.
These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are.
So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
9/30/2009 12:30:00 AM
Actually, those officers are only detailed out and still count against each commander's numbers. It's one of shell games the city uses to hide real staffing strength. I'm no computer whiz, but it's all available in the alpha star query. Give it a try genius.
smoke and mirrors is a common trend in police work amoung the burbs that border chicago as well
do more with less
ticket quotas
dog and pony show to the public to give them a false sense of security
You can bet if IBM or GM wanted to know how many people work in their offices or on their assembly lines, the number is there at the touch of a button. Why is it like pulling teeth here?
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They do know how many are working in the district. They also know how many are actually out on the street doing real work at the touch of a button. They just want to say it and tell the truth. They don't want to public to know the truth because they are afraid of an uproar by Joe Citizen.
Don't worry Friday is the day.
Once the Olympics are deterrmined there will be lots of changes to this department and the city. Win or lose you will see changes.
at news conference last night in regards to fenger student beating death j-fed stated, " some allegations of deriliction of duty have been raised and discipline will be handed out if it can be proven." so now maybe a " 99 unit" initially responded because their were no other cars and he may have pulled up and the job is bona fide--- full blown gang fight--- what would you have the officer do besides get on the radio and call for more cars--- now we get out of the cars and put our hands on people and in the end the only bad guys are the coppers and all conveniently captured on video... the w/c goes in the lock up for the trr interview and little boo tells him how the police kicked him in the ass and called him names and whamo, cr initiated--- now call the e/t for pictures... the only deriliction to duty is how blue shirts are hung out to dry by supervisors which is why coppers just do the bare minimum nowadays, nobody wants to be tomorrow's headline...
These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are.
Wow, you need to really get over yourself.
WE all do REAL police work asshole
Its who works the company line and who supports our fraternal order that matters
WE all take a chance on getting killed or injured
If you chose to work that unit when you were given the chance(it had nothing to do with performance only bodies) then do the work that is required of you and stop thinking that you are the end all.
You call a 10-1 WE all respond
Punk
So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
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I taut you sed dare was a loss of 450 to gang unit
Usin all my toes n fingers 604-450=154
Ya tink dat maybe udder people did sumtin too???
But bein yur on da Gang Enforcement Unit you must be a lot smarter en me
SCC, be careful how you write the acronym "pos"
i know what it means, but i could help thinking pieces of shit.
These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are.
Hahahah that is the funniest thing I have read. The same GEU guys that bring in 2092's and forgot how to do a simple case report? Get bent you moron
Remember he is saving the city money, that is why he dismantled our system and put his in his place. I mean hey he only has 7 chiefs, we only had 3. I am sure that is a huge cash saver.
I count the days down until that stroke and all his cronies leave.
It's sad to think the CPD will be the front line of defense for security once we get the Olympics. Starting the day after we get the nod all foreign and local terroists will start planning on some type of castrophe. The real security crunch will begin about Jan of 2015 when the Feds and additional police officers will be hired and given special training (TARA). But it will be to late! Yes some maybe caught (on purpose?) to take the haet away for the real threats. These threats are going into operation right away and we are short several hundred police officers. Not to mention the lowest morale ever, frivilous lawsuits, no support from Da Mayo on down to the CPD bosses. Everyday a copper goes out there and makes a great arrest he strays into a gray area its the gray area that leads to tips and clues. This is how most terroist activity is discovered and with the CPD handcuffed their are only a few coppers out their to go into that gray area anymore. It's just not worth the risk of being thrown under a bus. Chicago will have a great big bulls eye around it starting 2 Oct 2009 with few to do anything about it!!!!!! Da blame falls on Da Mayo and may he rot in Hell for all of the innocent lives that will suffer from his evilness!!!!!
"5. since the non taxpayers are not affected by the burden of paying taxes, their participation in the non competitive marketplace, via their voting habits, is one of the root causes of the taxpayers' woes"
George Bernard Shaw said it a long time ago. "The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always count on the support of Paul,"
Is there any other organization in this country that does not know how many people work for it?
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Good point! As a tax payer I'd be pissed off. Either hire more cops or cut a refund tax check back to me.
Where is the money going ??
In two more days we will have a "NO BID" party!!!! GO RIO!!!
5 at the desk haha you should go to 001 on 3rd watch. They actually put more people inside after they were supposed to cut the amount of P.O's workin the desk. And most of them are usually females with 3 years on. I mean you are working in 001 is it that bad to work the streets there until you get a few years on the job. And the others havent worked the street in over 5 years. What a joke. All this happens while all the cars are 99 on 3rd watch. But hey at least the chosen few are takin care of.
Well I'm no computer whiz, but I can tell you that at the start of 2009 the new Gang Enforcement Unit took all the district's gang teams and assigned them to Organized Crime Division. That's (16) P.O.'s and (2) Sgts. from each district x 25 = 450 P.O.'s.
These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are.
So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
Real police work haha. You guys never did real police work thats why you were on the gang team. Gettin your one bag of weed a day in the DOC. Maybe your backwards baseball hat is on a little to tight tough guy.
do you really want those desk people out on the street. most of them are completely worthless and they do more good then harm by being inside.
"These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are."
Don't forget the GEU warriors keep our local Home Depots and Best Buys safe for at least two hours each tour so the patrol pukes can concentrate on the district back-logs.
Well I'm no computer whiz, but I can tell you that at the start of 2009 the new Gang Enforcement Unit took all the district's gang teams and assigned them to Organized Crime Division. That's (16) P.O.'s and (2) Sgts. from each district x 25 = 450 P.O.'s.
No, we are not assigned we are detailed. Not all gang teams are fully staffed. Example Area 3 G.E.U. has 7 Sgts. and 51 officers. Some G.E.U. teams are a Sgt. and 3 officers or a Sgt. and 2 officers.
"...These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are.
So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
9/30/2009 12:30:00 AM..."
Oh wait a second, how old are you son? Yeah, I'm a gray haired old fart. The kind the testosterone hair gel dudes might despise, but the smart ones listen to.
I can tell you for a historical certainty, that mantra has been repeated for generations. I heard that from Chief Pepp's people in the 70's, Commander Joe McCathy's people in the 80's and on and on.
You may start out that way, but when it gets cold, or when ever the numbers get low you will go back to "broken window" tactics. Always have, always will.
You will not be working in the districts of people that pay the taxes and get the least service.
What ever you do, please be safe.
Saturation and Gun teams be warned: Your days are numbered. Heard it right from the man himself(Dugan) that all supervisors and P.O.'s assigned to those teams will be headed back to their district of assignment. Manpower needs will be cited along with enough resources with gang and MSF to combat any rising crime patterns or quality of life issues that may arise. Better reach out to your units and see what watch is available. Don't wait until the last minute.
A little off-topic, but SCC is like crack...you can't wait til the new topics get added each night. Just got my fix...
9/30/2009 12:11:00 AM
I was just thinking that! I know, I stayed up til about midnight and gave up.
Thanks for using my comment SCC.
I forgot to mention the guys who like writing movers or DUIs.
In one district there is a car that is always down on a TVB, and when they are called for a job they say they just made a stop. The other cars in the sector have to handle the jobs. Then the traffic cars who are down on rush hour parking.
In another district there is a warrant car that, "arms himself with knowledge of a warrant" as he puts it, and spends the day searching for them.
What about the jobs that require a 2 man car for safety reasons. So that means 2 one man cars go down on a job because all the cars are 99. Then there are all the hospital transports from the lockup because some crack head has felonyitis.
Then the tact, gang and burglary teams that either don't take jobs when in their district or are getting detailed elsewhere.
What about the normal routines of getting gas, a car wash, down on personals or lunch. All those are required, and there's nothing wrong with it, but detract from police presence on the street.
You know the public would be outraged if someone died because a car was down getting air in the tire or the officer had a uniform adjustment (because his/her jagoff-petty boss bitched about a stain and threatened to write him/her up). The dispatchers can only juggle so many cars with so many jobs.
There are so many dynamics of the job, so much bureaucracy and bullshit policies that all take services away from the public. Much of what the POs do on the street is required and expected, but there are so may things being done that waste time.
If the city refuses to hire more police, then why don't all the think tanks and experts (read clout heavy/politically connected and mildly retarded people making 6 figures who don't know damn about administration) make policy changes to increase efficiency?
My other point is if there were enough police on the streets, there is no problem with any of the above. But the city refuses to hire more police, so the public is stuck with a system designed for a few thousand more officers than it actually has; The department is spread too thin and we are seeing the results.
Again; questions the public should be asking.
9/30/2009 12:30:00 AM
Actually the officers from GES are still assinged to the districts they came from they're only detailed to OCD.
Cooter told you a year ago how many pos their was.and wait till the real story about the FOP and how they sold out the BIS officers,and what they got for it.
I've said it once and I'll say it again shut down the DOC. What in the hell are they tracking or what information (useful information) are they providing to the troops in the patrol division.
Had the DOC been doing their fucking job, the "conflict" at Fenger H.S. would not have risen to that level. Don't belive the bullshit they're going to start sending out about the "gang conflicts" in and around Fenger H.S. It's all smoke and mirrors to keep their spots
The DOC is not suppose to be a reactive unit but a proactive unit. Steve Caluris is single handedly keeping Churches chicken in business instead addressing crime and disorder in the City of Chicago.
We are the problem. That is right, we are the problem. Ever since they city decided to lower manpower, they also wanted to see if it would have an adverse effect; it did not, so they decided to continue to decrease manpower. As long as PO's make arrests, write tickets, etc... we are FUCKED.
Reminds me at one of my old jobs. I used to run bags from the security checkpoint to the airplane. We used to have 68 employees. They kept decreasing employees and how did the workers respond? Well they worked harder than ever! They actually decided to be more productive! So what did the company do? Well they lowered our ranks even more and what did the stupid employees do? They worked harder! When we were down to 41 employees, I quit. I couldn't take it anymore.
So with CPD, I don't get it, why won't most of us just fucking answer our calls and write reports? That is what is required of us and that is what we should do. Oh also, don't forget to include "RO toured the area for the offender with negative results". LOL.
No smoke and mirrors, no games, no playing with numbers. 004th district ran 10 one man cars last Friday night on midnights. All you have to do is look at the work sheets, or A & A s. They can't deny it. A district in the top 3 in homicides and shootings with 10 one man cars on a Friday night!!!!!!! If the citizen's knew what this prick of a mayor was doing to save up money for his precious, all consuming olympics, they would be enraged. But the media in this city is the equivalent of a whipped puppy.
Having been a POW some years ago- I can saw we have some seriously sick PO's (Cancer/Heart/physically messed-up) at Call-back.
Lets also not forget the generous amount of Cowards and Crazies also...
Dont forget Unit 376(call back) is populated with the 3 C's.
2. the non taxpayers are enthusiastic consumers
4. the concept of 'buyer beware' seems to have been forgotten, specifically on election days, by the taxpaying electorate
You seem to be overlooking the possibility that the non-taxpayers OUTNUMBER the taxpayers on election day.
Remeber the time wen there was enough (and there is a need) for the school unit.
Speaking of non-taxpayers, what are you going to do when all those little honor students grow up and enter their prime criminality years of age 18-35?
And start making their own little babies who become honor students who grow up to be non-taxpayers and on and on and on?!?
... 5 at the desk, 2 to 3 in male and female lockups a piece, front office, caps, secretaries, traffic missions, coffee car, and any other whim the watch commander....
Maybe but I believe the number is really 3 at desk 2 (at most) in lock-up 1 tact sec, 5 in Caps and 5 in DC office. So either way if its 20 or more as you say or 16 that I think is reasonable thats still only approx 6 more POs per watch.
so answer me this who is gonna print, photo, bond arrestees do the walk in traffic reports and crashes that POs direct to district, keep your time, run court, act as a liason with elderly, building dept, FSS, etc.
The problem isn't the 15-20 POs inside, its the cities lack of hiring and believing that a camera replaces POs. They want you to argue about the people inside, because its they want you to believe that it's because the CAPS PO is inside that you don't get your time due, not because the city budgets for and doesn't hire.
The budget is like a shopping list you make up a year in advance. When it comes time to pay for shit if they dont want to pay they are not goingto pay. This 13,500 number is bullshit. I say they were budgeted for 15,300 in 2010 who gives a shit. They may be down on revenue they may not. They may be spending money on other shit and they dont want to hire more police. Stop with this "They were budgeted for." It doesent mean a dam thing.
Its funny when ever I pull up on a dude shot I see members there from many units, not just the district. Would it be nice to have more cops on the job, sure. Does everyone want to get out of patrol so they arent tied to the radio and stuck going to domestics all day, sure. Dont tell me that the only guys working are the ones in the dist. And who gives a fuck about parkers.
short falls in man power, low moral, incompetent management, broken FOP, and a city that grossly is unsupportive of us getting the job done (politicians especially). If that's how you feel then do something about it. BLUE FLU. UNTILL THEN DO YOUR JOB AND QUIT COMPLAINING.
[...]So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
9/30/2009 12:30:00 AM
Ok Rick Flair, keep telling yourself "real police work" but everyone else knows what's what.
So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
9/30/2009 12:30:00 AM
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Really fucknut??? 100s retire every year yet they haven't been putting many classes through the academy in the last couple of years. They must be cloning P.O.s to keep the numbers up!
From a retired
Went downtown last week after staying away a few years.
Where are the P.O's ? The corner patrolmen. Saw 3 traffic aids and no police.
Don't forget door security, very important job!
This 13,500 number is bullshit. I say they were budgeted for 15,300 in 2010 who gives a shit. They may be down on revenue they may not. They may be spending money on other shit and they dont want to hire more police. Stop with this "They were budgeted for." It doesent mean a dam thing.
That's a really good point - if they had actually budgeted for the positions, and the positions weren't filled, then they'd be running a massive budget surplus.
Makes you wonder what they preferred to spend the money on.
Well I'm no computer whiz, but I can tell you that at the start of 2009 the new Gang Enforcement Unit took all the district's gang teams and assigned them to Organized Crime Division. That's (16) P.O.'s and (2) Sgts. from each district x 25 = 450 P.O.'s.
These GEU guys are working in the districts each and every night doing real police work not out looking for pimpy drinkers and pissers like the district tac guys are.
So there is really only a loss of 154 officers, not 604, genius.
9/30/2009 12:30:00 AM
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To the Einstein who posted the above:
I bet you are on that unit and I bet you are a clout baby as well. Few posters already explained to you how wrong you are before I got a chance. How bad were you at math? Were you as bad as you are on this job? To me you are a fucking moron.
No smoke and mirrors, no games, no playing with numbers. 004th district ran 10 one man cars last Friday night on midnights. All you have to do is look at the work sheets, or A & A s. They can't deny it. A district in the top 3 in homicides and shootings with 10 one man cars on a Friday night!!!!!!! If the citizen's knew what this prick of a mayor was doing to save up money for his precious, all consuming olympics, they would be enraged. But the media in this city is the equivalent of a whipped puppy.
9/30/2009 04:15:00 PM
Brilliant Mr. Poster. You have outed your Watch Commander who probably let and extra P.O. or two off that night. You can bet that won't happen again. Hope your Watch finds you and thanks you.
where is the F.O.P.??? what a bunch of slackers!
Do you really need all these scientific numbers and analyzations? Just open your eyes. No cop cars driving by, lots of cops being shot and killed, lots of cops angry and bitter, lots of underqualified cops being promoted. Not enough cops. Case closed. I just saved you a ton of money. Give me an award.
Who needs the police when you have the Olympics?
Why doesn't he media do a FOIA request? Lock the City of Chicago into some numbers and then continue reporting on it every six months.
No smoke and mirrors, no games, no playing with numbers. 004th district ran 10 one man cars last Friday night on midnights. All you have to do is look at the work sheets, or A & A s. They can't deny it. A district in the top 3 in homicides and shootings with 10 one man cars on a Friday night!!!!!!! If the citizen's knew what this prick of a mayor was doing to save up money for his precious, all consuming olympics, they would be enraged. But the media in this city is the equivalent of a whipped puppy.
9/30/2009 04:15:00 PM
Brilliant Mr. Poster. You have outed your Watch Commander who probably let and extra P.O. or two off that night. You can bet that won't happen again. Hope your Watch finds you and thanks you.
9/30/2009 09:48:00 PM
The W.C let an "extra P.O. or two" off?? That should have meant one or two 10-99 cars on midnights, not TEN. It goes beyond granting time due, moron.
Anonymous said...
... 5 at the desk, 2 to 3 in male and female lockups a piece, front office, caps, secretaries, traffic missions, coffee car, and any other whim the watch commander....
Maybe but I believe the number is really 3 at desk 2 (at most) in lock-up 1 tact sec, 5 in Caps and 5 in DC office. So either way if its 20 or more as you say or 16 that I think is reasonable thats still only approx 6 more POs per watch.
so answer me this who is gonna print, photo, bond arrestees do the walk in traffic reports and crashes that POs direct to district, keep your time, run court, act as a liason with elderly, building dept, FSS, etc.
The problem isn't the 15-20 POs inside, its the cities lack of hiring and believing that a camera replaces POs. They want you to argue about the people inside, because its they want you to believe that it's because the CAPS PO is inside that you don't get your time due, not because the city budgets for and doesn't hire.
9/30/2009 05:31:00 PM
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That was my point exactly; these jobs are necessary, but the city spins the numbers as if all the POs are out on the street. If we had the numbers it wouldn't matter how many people worked inside, but the public doesn't know that.
Here's a hint to the public readers:
The city lies about the number of police officers employed. What ever number you hear, divide that up between a 24 hour day, and all the examples you read above. If you want to see the truth, get a copy of the work sheets from any given district. There was one posted once if I remember correctly and it was a good example of how short the streets really are.
The W.C let an "extra P.O. or two" off?? That should have meant one or two 10-99 cars on midnights, not TEN. It goes beyond granting time due, moron.
10/01/2009 11:11:00 AM
We are so short, a W.C. is being negligent granting any time due at all. This is an Officer safety issue that W.C.s struggle with every day. The alternative is not allowing P.O.s off for weddings, family functions etc..
By shedding light on the few that we do let off, you invite scrutiny from the upper echelon that have no idea how to run a Watch. I think you know what happens then.
Your opinion sounds more like it came from an adult when you leave out the name calling.
We are so short, a W.C. is being negligent granting any time due at all. This is an Officer safety issue that W.C.s struggle with every day. The alternative is not allowing P.O.s off for weddings, family functions etc..
Yes, and heaven help us if a beat car is downed instead of having TEN 10-99 cars up on a Friday on midnights. Instead, having FIVE 10-4 cars might indicate someone/something attempting to manage the watch (you) actually has our (PO's) well being in mind when they make such decisions. AND that someone/something (you) isn't afraid of doing something that calls attention to oneself, because we all know an Lt. doesn't want to rock the boat if he/she/it has no clout or is too close to retirement. Captains are political whores and as such are no more concerned about officer safety than with what's on the lunch menu.
By shedding light on the few that we do let off, you invite scrutiny from the upper echelon that have no idea how to run a Watch. I think you know what happens then.
Yes, I think I know what happens then.
if you're a Lt. assigned to Patrol without juice and you rock the boat, you'll get dumped. But if you're an Patrol Lt. with political brains, you won't do anything to call attention to yourself when it comes to staffing the beat cars on the watch. And the more beat cars up the better, and anything less than 100% is a problem.
Thankfully though, no midnight W/C ever puts a beat car 10-04 on the sheets and 10-99 on the street. But anyway, what you're really saying is that in the end, officer safety doesn't matter when your own self-preservation is at stake. Thanks for the clarification.
Your opinion sounds more like it came from an adult when you leave out the name calling.
But this is SCC, Daddy. Tempered expression of opinion is for the Sunday morning sermon at Christ the King. You of all people should know that.
How 'bout the "806" team in the 008 district, what are they up to now... 13 p.o.'s? or more? Good job commander J. K., you've taken 6 more p.o.'s from the 3rd watch in the past few weeks to work your "806 I'm leaving early again tonight" bullshit! Then you show your face at 3rd watch roll call and ask the troops about problems, concerns, etc.. The response is always manpower, and your full of shit response is, "Tell me 'bout it..." On Thursday, 01 Oct, you put two more p.o.'s ( that just bid into 008 ) on the 806E car... ??? What about the watch? 39 calls in a backlog the other night and I walk into the station and there's the 806 team in the tact office, a strong odor of italian food coming from within, all laughing with their suck ass chubby sgt.. Hey chubby, I bet your guys never get denied time due or get a slip burned for that matter? Most of the time I see your guys traveling S/B on Pulaski through Evergreen Pk. to Mt. Greenwood far before their tour end. Oh commander, the 6-3 schedule was designed to have more cars on the street ( to answer jobs ) by 2130 hrs., not 2200 hrs.! What a fucking joke! 60 minute roll call? Wish we could sit in the station for the first hour of our tour every day on the 3rd watch... not! And when they do get on the street at 2200 hrs., the 20 and 30 sector cars are all held down for 90 more minutes... Once again fucking the 3rd watch! Word travels and we all know that some 1st watch pussies ( blue and white shirts ) cried to the commander about pending calls being given out after roll call... Welcome to our world cry babies! Thanks commander, you sure look out for the troops ... P.S. When are the two female p.o.'s you brought over from the west side going to the 806 team? Or will it be tact? You're so predictable. The 3rd watch.
"No, we are not assigned we are detailed. Not all gang teams are fully staffed. Example Area 3 G.E.U. has 7 Sgts. and 51 officers. Some G.E.U. teams are a Sgt. and 3 officers or a Sgt. and 2 officers."
51 POs on an Area 3 gang team??? Are there even 51 gang members in Area 3? If you want to figure out manpower issues look to the north: 6 people working 88 cars in 024 who don't answer calls? 4 POs in one 06 mission car? For what?? All those in progress calls? Those big brawls on Devon Avenue? Weekends off? Set dogs? Sitting in the station for 2 hours "waiting for a car" at the start of the tour and leaving 2 hours early after bringing in your one-bagger? Asking to send a paper car? Gimme a break. Let's see what happens when your big boss retires. Send em to 008 to help with the backlog!
"No, we are not assigned we are detailed. Not all gang teams are fully staffed. Example Area 3 G.E.U. has 7 Sgts. and 51 officers. Some G.E.U. teams are a Sgt. and 3 officers or a Sgt. and 2 officers."
51 POs on an Area 3 gang team??? Are there even 51 gang members in Area 3? If you want to figure out manpower issues look to the north: 6 people working 88 cars in 024 who don't answer calls? 4 POs in one 06 mission car? For what?? All those in progress calls? Those big brawls on Devon Avenue? Weekends off? Set dogs? Sitting in the station for 2 hours "waiting for a car" at the start of the tour and leaving 2 hours early after bringing in your one-bagger? Asking to send a paper car? Gimme a break. Let's see what happens when your big boss retires. Send em to 008 to help with the backlog!
Hell nope, u souf syde dope. Keep them muthas up norf! Send 'em all y'all to the Entertainment Detail. John Barleycorn is out of control.
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