After the Tahoes
As the Tahoes are dying out faster than expected, we'd suggest the Department look into these:
- The compact package combined with the tasty twin turbo 2.0-liter four cylinder diesel putting out 204 hp scores mid-6 second 0-60 times with 40 mpg efficiency.
Diesel. 40 mpg. The ultimate green beemer. The Germans are using these for pursuits on the autobahn, phasing out the Porsche 911s. Oh wait...pursuits. Right. We don't do those any more. Sorry.
How about the humble Dodge Chargers then?
It just looks fast, right?
How about the humble Dodge Chargers then?
It just looks fast, right?Labels: we got nothing
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
59 Comments:
Mumbles would have us in Yugo's if he could!
those chargers around too bad, theyre fast and roomy all-around
We all know the Bmers are way too expensive. Hell, with that kind of performance, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bmer squads turn up missing!
Another thing...other LEOs that have purchased the Charger are finding out two very important negatives concerning that car.
They're way too small in the back for the average 300 lb+ American plus sized fatass arrestee, of which there are plenty of all across this great, FAT land of the USA.
The other thing is, those Chrysler cars are lousy in terms of reliability, and the maintenance on those Chargers is pretty pricey too.
My Car Has Been Reliable Since The Stone Ages & Is Still Running Strong!
Can't Say That About Your Beat Cars Right?
I thought we should be a fleet of Mercury Marauders, but I know I was dreaming...
http://www.carbonmotors.com/
Coming soon to a district near you! Smart Cars! Arrestees will be tied down over the roof of the vehicle as hunters once lashed down their trophy deer over their fenders for transport.
I remember my dad coming home from deer hunting in Wisconsin many years ago with a deer lashed over the fender of his 1950's Oldsmobile. Today's entire Smart Car isn't much bigger than that Oldsmobile fender either!
"Beemer" is a term used when referring to a BMW motorcycle. A BMW automobile is a "bimmer." Just FYI sc. Sidenote, that 1 series IS nice but reeally small.
Crown Vic...the best patrol platform available. Simple tune up and maintenance, why bother with anything else ? When I look at used Crown Vic Police Interceptors for sale, the engines run so quiet and smooth, you cant even tell the car is running. If not for V8 crappy gas mileage, I would use one for my daily driver. Ford has engineered these to do almost anything the old Caprice could do, and everyone remembers the Caprice as the gold standard for squad cars. The Crown Vic recieved Mustang GT cylinder heads in 2001, upping the horse power. Eveyone knows hot pursuit is only a video game these days, so a "Hemi Charger" is a waste of time and money.
I think most will agree that the Tahoes were a huge mistake. While they are well suited to federal or rural law enforcement they are a poor fit for urban or big city police work. Their reliability is fair at best. Brakes at 5-7k miles and more electrical problems than ComEd in late July. It is lacking in visibility and manuverability(try turning one around on a side street or backing down a narrow street or alley).
BMWs way too much $$$$ both as far as original cost and maintenance.
Dodge Charger or Magnum I don't think so... just ask any agency using them more problems than they are worth. As far as either of them being fast... not without the hemi motor. Both have major problems with front end parts and engine/trans mounts. Both have limited interior space especially after a cage/computer is added(think Chevy Impala which does not fit average size officers).
While many here may disagree or not care for the Ford CrownVic it ramiains the workhorse of the police fleet industry. It is a very adaquate platform upon which to build a police vehicle. If fleet would rethink the interior layout most officers would find it to be a very officer friendly enviroment(think center console w/swivel mount computer, light/siren control, dual flashlight chargers and cup holders all located between the seats and easy to reach/use). While not perfect the C/V remains the best option to date.
Sorry for the long post just info I thought you should have.
Larger, rear wheel drive Chevy Impala coming in a couple years. Should be comparable to a Crown Vic. Problem solved.
Enjoy the Tahoes while they're here. Roomy and comfortable. Just don't drive like an asshole.
Charger has no room and Chrysler still sucks anyways.
It'll never happen...
it was pointed out that even when we had 5.7L Caprices, the powers that be complained that it was too much car for a lot of people as people don't really buy/drive big powerful rear drive sedans anymore.
(crown vic is a fragile dog compared to the 5.7 Caprices.)
Ford hasn't made a REAL police interceptor since 1977/78 when they built the last of the 460 cubic inch V-8's.
We see the Tahoes are working out just great... not.
The guys at Area 3 Garage say the new batch of vehicles are Pontiac G-8 clones built in Australia.
As we head into the 4 & 2 shift knowing we don't have enough cars to cover the overlap periods, I think it might be time to invest in a new pair of comfortable,, insulated waterproof, boots! I will call them "Ritchie" and I will wear them Daley.
Hell, the Toyota Prius or Ford Escape hybrid could be used for Supervisors, too!
Since when do these guys need a big gas guzzler to drive around and log cars. In over 20 years on this job, I have yet to see a supervisor transport a prisoner in their squad car.
Let alone any other justification to having a big gas guzzler vehicle other than the fact that most are out of shape and could NOT pass the power test today! Yet, J-Fed wants us to pass a power test to carry a useless rifle!
These Tahoes are a very Stupid J-Fed idea!
Chevy is bringing back the Caprice in 2011. Its a GM Holden rear drive car that is similar to the out going Pontiac G8. Take a look at this link.
http://www.hendonpub.com/publications/lawandorder/featuredarticle.aspx
Chevys bringing back the caprice for 2010 too. 355 bhp, 118" (I think) wheel base package w/ driver and passenger seats molded to accommodate duty belts. Check it out.
HORSES Bring back the HORSES...........
Fast cars? Why? You can't chase, so why fast cars? How about Yugo's and mini vans? After all you're now yer mommas police now.
"FRED FLINSTONE said...
My Car Has Been Reliable Since The Stone Ages & Is Still Running Strong!
Can't Say That About Your Beat Cars Right?
12/06/2009 03:16:00 AM"
Yaba Daba Doooooooooooooo!?
I recall diesel engines having a hard time starting in the cold. That's why trucks don't turn their engines off. Have they changed I don't know?
How about bringing back the Chevy Caprice squad car when it comes back in 2011 (see link below)? The rear wheel drive, v8 Caprice was a great car.
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/09q4/2011_chevrolet_caprice_ppv-car_news
"It's just that the city has to spend money on a department they don't care about that provides a service that they don't think people deserve, right?"
I fixed your last sentence SCC.
You can bet your last nickel that the Tahoes were purchased based on someone "contributing" to the right politician.
I have often thought the old checker taxis were a near ideal urban police vehicle. Durable, reliable, and lots of room.
Chevy is bringing back the Caprice in 2011-2012, per article
In Police Fleet magazine
How about tandem bicycles with a trailer for transport? lol
Well, my Tahoe gets six miles to the gallon. Anything would be better, and cheaper to operate, than this piece of trash.
But Weis knows best. After all, every fed who lives in Naperville drives one as their company vehicle. Oh, and the U.S. pays for the gas, yes?
How about a souped-up Toyota Corolla???????????????????
Carbon Motors.
Small town cop---
Chargers
They are small in the back, who gives a shit, less room to raise your legs and kick. (admittedly we don't transport alot:) We haven't had any more maintenance than what is to be expected. $23,000 vs $40,000, better mileage. Especially nice seat and dashboard. Not as fast as they look, but that is what radios are for.
And they look cool, too.
Be careful and I hope you get your contract hammered out soon.
I still think this is one of the nicest toys I've ever seen:
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=225664
They should bring back the Crown Vics! Either that one or the Impala's. Something that's comfortable! The hell with the Tahoe's!
Mumbles would have us in Yugo's if he could!
12/06/2009 12:15:00 AM
HAHAHAHAHA, the Yugo, I think I've only ever seen 2 in my life.....and those 2 were Egyptian Army Tanks.....
Bring back the 1987 Chevy Impala!
Someone legit (not the dept) ought to keep a tally on how many times a tahoe gets stuck in the snow. Rear wheel drive is just assinine in the frozen tundra thats comming. Who is the stupid ass that ordered these vehicles? Ohhhhh.
there is a reason the dept.hasn't bought any DODGES. reliability. these cars are like the p.o's that always hit the medical, for every little ache and pain.
My name is Ram and my bowels are full.
Here is ther real reason:
Mar. 21 2005--About a year ago, Buffalo Grove police joined a class-action lawsuit against Ford Motor Co. alleging that the company's Crown Victoria sedans, the car of choice for most law-enforcement agencies, weren't safe.
But now Buffalo Grove -- along with dozens of other police departments across Illinois -- is trying to drop out of the suit. It wants to buy more Crown Victoria Interceptors, and Ford won't sell them to any agency involved in the lawsuit.
Illinois is the only state with a class-action suit involving law-enforcement agencies, including the City of Chicago. But since 2002, 75 municipalities in 20 states have ...
You know, I feel like we should experiment. Purchase 10 new crown vics, 10 impalas, and 10 chargers. Collect data and see which ones are most reliable. That's it. On another note, I'd love to see us get a couple carbon motors vehicles and try those out. Honestly, I think they would be most reliable but it's a lot of money to shell out at once. The vehicle would have to be extremely reliable to recoup the initial large deposit. Also, on another note, I wonder if toyota with its camry makes a squad car yet. I've seen some camry cabs. Toyota makes a great car, I'd like to see a camry squad. Yeah, they might have to throw some more horses under the hood.
Daytona starts the NASCAR season in Feb 2010. Race um, two gallon tanks with diffrent tires on each wheel, switch three "transportees" every pit stop. ( I prefer the Dodge small hemi with 4X8 CLY and RT package, but that's just me; and most of the factory police orders) all makes, all commers run what you brung. But? Daytona 130,000 starting date and no pool cars? Hmmmmmmmm?
All I know is nobody running from the Police ever made it thru the "S" Curve on the old Outer Drive. Even if you were chasing in a shitbox, they splattered like eggs on the first curve. Better justice was never had! Need to bring that kind of thing back.
even the state troopers in Mexico have those chargers
425 hp vs BMW 200, even given the weight diffrrence the Mpoar (dodge) wins. Also the bump n grind of American urban warfar the BMW would be torn up in a week,
Have you seen the new University of Chicago Police cars?????
Want to see the next car, go to www.carbonmotors.com.
This car is being built in Indiana, has had more than 2 years worth of imput from street officers, not bosses and is a 250,000 mile car.
I sat in one of the new chevys at the Denver police show, its very impressive, even has special seats that fit a PO with a gunbelt on. It has servel engine choices and interiors. Its much better then the chevy we have now, and hands down better then the tahoe for street use.
LAPD was the sponsoring agency ( they were at three booths, NYPD was there also) but NO CPD in evidence. Of course, the majority of vendors at the show think CPD brass are morons anyway.
for 6:46pm blog
I spoke to Toyota and they do not make a US police package yet.. NYPD is experimenting with Nissan and Hyundai does have a package used overseas.
Anonymous said...
those chargers around too bad, they're fast and roomy all-around
12/06/2009 12:14:00 AM
Leroy Jethro Gibbs drives a Charger. That's good enough for me.
I want a fuckin' Escalade! With rims!
Otherwise I don't give a shit what kind of car I get, I'll drive it no matter what. It will have A/C and a heater, nothing else maters to me. A/C wasn't in squad cars early in my career, we were tough then, we could handle it. We froze in the winter and sweated our balls off in the summer.
I walked 5 miles to school too, barefoot, in the cold, uphill in both directions. Arghhh!
Actually, I would like a Honda mini-van with a cage in the back. That would do nicely.
Hey J-Fed go with the DODGE!!!!!
(Caprice) Looks like the Impala, too small for police work.
Ya can't chase any more, but I'll bet the Chargers are good enough to aggressively follow...
PLAIN AND SIMPLE !!! CROWN VICS - Come at a dirt cheap price when purchased in bulk by Law enforcement agencies... and quite frankly the best overall most comfortable cruiser for Police Officers. If they got their heads out of their asses and listen to the rank and file, we'd get swivel mounts for the computers, we'd have more room to fit in with our duty belts, and we'd definately have/make room for accessories that can be plugged in like chargers for our flashlights instead of all that being blocked out because of that piece of shit computer mount....
Anonymous said...
Mumbles would have us in Yugo's if he could!
12/06/2009 12:15:00 AM
I wouldn't be too surprised if a deal was in the works to have us all drive Ladas
The NYPD are testing the Nissan Altima HYBRID police car. They are expected to get about twice the milage of the current fords and chevys. They cost about 29,000 fully equiped.
But since we are on a tight budget, we spend more money getting a vehicle that guzzels gas and nobody wants to drive. So much for the mayors green plans..
Bring back the 1969 BIG Dodge Polara sedan with that fire breathing 440 V-8 that had a top speed of 147MPH right out of the box with that white covered steering wheel so you wouldn't burn your hands in the hot sun. Room? it seats twenty...
Stay far away from Chargers. My agency has 3 and they have all been in the shop for major problems. Computer issues, shorts in the grounding system that prevents shifting, and broken motor mounts to say the least.
I still have no idea why anyone is chasing after anything other than the trusty old crown vic.
just for yuks...
no doubt the mopar 440 was truly a fire breathing monster but it was pretty much for highway patrol use rated at 375hp (lie, actual hp was around 420) and 490lb ft. torque...
the best modern era squad was the 1994-1996 9c1 caprice... these were NOT purchased for cpd but they WERE cta special employment fleet. You want to talk about some really, FAST police cars... rated at 260hp (another lie, well, a fib... closer to 300hp) 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds, same as the 69 polara and a slightly better top end. one chp officer holds the unofficial top speed of 158mph... he was running down a corvette if memory serves correctly. Kind of funny that we had a rocket to chase down bus disturbances but the real fun was hot-footing it from the lot to "... s/b on Michigan at 111th St." at 2230hrs... the late night "flight" down the ryan was big fun...
Maybe Daley could raise money for the city by selling ads on the side of cars. Thus, everyone might be driving the short buses!!!
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