Aldercreatures Talk Shit Again
Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th) agreed that there is “a lot of merit” to complaints about the raid on long-term reserves. But, he said, “Where is there a source of income big enough to fill the [$520 million] hole? There isn’t any. So we are in a hang-on mode. We have to hang on until things get better.”
That won’t happen anytime soon, warned Ald. Pat O’Connor (40th), the mayor’s floor leader. This spring, taxpayers could face another body blow when an arbitrator rules on the new police contract.
“Next year, buckle up. I don’t care what happens to the economy between now and then. None of these indicators are gonna get back to a point where we don’t have to make more cuts and have more savings and have more debate on where we’re gonna find the money,” O’Connor said.
You aldercreatures want sacrifices?
With the Chicago Police Department already operating 2,000 officers-a-day short of authorized strength, the budget uses federal stimulus funds to add just 86 officers, 30 of them for the CTA.
That’s nowhere near enough hiring to solve a manpower shortage that Police Supt, Jody Weis fears will get dramatically worse when as many as 1,000 more officers retire next year.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
42 Comments:
Ed Burke is a smooth talker alright, but, he's still full of shit ! Nothing Eddie says can smooth out the mess that Shortshanks has "spent" us into.
Did you notice no where in the budget does the 2000 short come into play. They are still budgeting for 13500 and have been for several years. The 2000 short didn't just happen it's about 3 or 4 years of attrition.
The detective division is short several hundred and the last class was in 2007.
Maybe now that Richie's wife is battling cancer again, he'll pack it up and won't run next time. Not wishing ill health on anyone, but wouldn't it be nice if he called it quits to deal with his wife's illness?
Hey Alderman Eddie, stop stealing for a week and the $500 million deficit would be negated.
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS!
Where did the money go if were not paying 3000 police officers?
Go downtown, not a spot of graffiti or trash, now go into a neighborhood where people live and see. Trash everywhere, graffiti everywhere!
Take care of the jewel of the city, tourist area and screw every one else. Why is Chicago ave and state street beautful but chicago and austin is total SHIT?
How about no trash Division and rush st. but go to division and central and look around!
HELP US, VOTE THESE SCUMBAGS OUT!
Simply put: the teachers have a better union and better representation. God willing the CPD will get an excellent contract soon.
God bless the CPD and nobody else.
daleys pocket with the hole in it is $520,000,000.00 short. His right pocket is busting at the seams and he refuses to say how much is actually there. That's the pocket he uses for his "friends and relatives". It's quite obviously he doesn't consider the voters who put him in office as "friends". Don't think some last minute gesture of largesse (passing out free turkeys or hams) is gonna save your stingy ass when election time comes around. Where's The Beef ?????????
THE ONLY RELIEF I GET FROM THIS BULLSHIT IS KNOWING HOW I CONTINUE TO GENERATE "0" REVENUE FOR THIS SHIT CITY.
KMA
I/F
JW's contract is up in the air too. I wonder how much Daley will offer him to stick around and carry the water for him and the reverends.
The detective division is short several hundred and the last class was in 2007.
12/04/2009 12:50:00 AM
Try 450 detectives short. City budgets 1550 and we have 1100 according to CLEAR.
Now Bobby Rush is bitching about the 12 year old murder victim in Englewood not being a priority for a thorough investigation.
Well Mr. Rush why don't you go to the Mayor and ask him how this could be? The Detective Division is operating at about 71% and they have not made a class in 2 years.
Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th) agreed that there is “a lot of merit” to complaints about the raid on long-term reserves. But, he said, “Where is there a source of income big enough to fill the [$520 million] hole? There isn’t any. So we are in a hang-on mode. We have to hang on until things get better.”
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Where do you get the money? from daley's TIF slush fund you disingenuous thief! Right there, right there in the many TIF funds YOU oversee as chairman of the finance committee you lying bastard.
There is enough in TIF funds to balance the budget every year until things improve.
Would the City take some of the TIF money and balance the budget and slow down how much they pass out to favored developers? Nooooo, they raid the savings account!
Miserable lying bastards, hundreds of millions in TIF funds sitting there and they instead use the funds from the sale of capital assets.
they probably will use that as an argument at arbitration too. Hopefully the FOP has their facts and figures straight so they can expose the City's lies for what they are.
Watch for howls of outrage big time if the arbitrator awards us even a moderate raise. Be prepared for the city council to vote it down and force the FOP to go to court to seek enforcement of the arbitrator's ruling. That seems to be the way it is going.
"Why is Chicago ave and state street beautful but chicago and austin is total SHIT?
How about no trash Division and rush st. but go to division and central and look around!
12/04/2009 02:42:00 AM"
different nature of native life forms.
STOP SPENDING!!!!! Who runs their house this way? Are things really this out of whack where they talk about money just coming from "somewhere"? As if it can actually drop out of the sky. Maybe the mayor can just start buying lottery tickets $1M at a time.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE F'IN EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE HELL "30 POLICE FOR CTA" MEANS!?!?!? PLEASE! SOMEONE!
raid the tif's. plenty of money there. half a billion last year. but burke and the little jerk-off don't want their personal slush fund tampered with. anybody that votes for an incumbent should be neutered and not allowed to vote again.
P.O's that have recently resigned and pay back into the pension are being asked to return. WTF? DON'T DO IT. YOU'VE MADE YOUR DECISION AND IT WAS PROBABLY A GOOD ONE!
even the top police impersonator in the country, daley's high priced puppet j-fed, can see that manpower shortages in 2010 could become dangerously low... what are they going to do, deny time during the 6-9 periods when people want off... another issue is that many newer officers are actively looking for other employment and are not "lifers" because they can see the job going to shit and are trying to get out....
If the arbitrator rules in favor of police on decent raises and if a sizeable number of police retire watch for hiring freeze on police and moron mayor will blames police for being greedy.....
fewer police, restructuring beats,and a new priority system on answering calls are around the corner...neighborhoods that pay the most in taxes will get the least police service
hanf on for a rough ride
Do you realize that if Chicago had only twenty-five alderman, it would save close to 5 million a year. Maybe more! Time for some cuts in the alderman sector. They claim they work a part-time job, full-time, but they get full-time pay. I can do the math too. So, really, do we really need to have 50 part-timers?
The bottom line is; The mayor just does not respect or fear the police and fire fighters. The teachers union and education associations are powerful lobbiests in Springfield and give loads of cash to our representatives. And, they can STRIKE!! You cannot. The CPD/CFD have the worst pension system of any public employees in the state. This is not by accident.
The Teachers union is strong ,but Daley cannot risk a strike because if those kids are not in school the Homicide rate will skyrocket.
Aldermans' comments based on what they have been told about CPD contract; what was pulled off the table in a hissy fit over No-Olympics protest will be served back up.
thought you'd like this....
Later that year [1990] Mayor Daley announced that recycling would be offered to all low-density buildings inside a year—but through the Blue Bag program, which he promised would be "extremely convenient, environmentally sound, and the least expensive method to administer." City officials said it would cost about $13 million a year, plus start-up costs of $28 million to build four Materials Recycling and Recovery Facilities, where Streets and San trucks would dump their loads for sorting. The city would hire a private company to run the MRRFs (usually called "murfs"), and that company's workers would pull out the blue bags and any recyclable commodities they happened to see as the trash moved along conveyor belts. Other workers would take the recyclables to processors and haul the remaining trash in semis to private landfills, and the company would get to keep whatever money it made selling the commodities. Daley was apparently convinced this approach would work on the recommendation of officials with garbage giant Waste Management, which was then running a blue bag program in Omaha, Nebraska. (The mayor's brother, Bill Daley, was on the board of one of the company's subsidiaries.)
In October 1993 Mayor Daley announced that Waste Management had won the contract to build and run the MRRFs with a goal of diverting a minimum of 25 percent of the trash it picked up. He also announced that the costs of building the MRRFs—three on city property, one on Waste Management land—had more than doubled, to $60 million . . .
Waste Management's contract was up at the end of 2002, and the city put the deal up for bid. Allied Waste won the new contract, worth more than $128 million over three years. (Among the lobbyists Allied employed were a former Daley aide and Daniel Katalinic, who would plead guilty to mail fraud in 2005 because he'd helped trade city jobs for political favors when he worked for Streets and San and after he retired.) Waste Management did get a consolation prize: it wound up owning the taxpayer-financed MRRF on its property.
CPS got the deal they got because they voted OUT Daley's hand picked hack Deborah Lynch and voted IN someone who had thier best interests in mind. I know CPD has some foxes in the henhouse at the pension board, where else do Daley's minions lurk?
You know, people in the private sector forget this:
Years ago, when the economy was booming and private sector jobs were plentiful and the pay was high, police salaries remained as they are now - stagnant with small increases provided by contract over a span of several years. We still had to work side jobs, get court time, etc to come anywhere close to earning what people in the private sector were earning.
And now the economy has tanked, we have the same jobs with the same salaries (without a contract or small raise), we still have to work side jobs to afford to live in this ****hole of a city, and people are saying we should be happy to have jobs and the pay we're receiving?
Come on out here and deal with the crap we deal with on a daily basis. We earn every penny that we are paid and every penny that the city is stealing from us by crying poor and not giving us a contract.
The police should have a contract already and then they wouldn't be worried about the arbitrators decision. I thought by law our money for our raise was already put aside?
Anonymous said..........Why is Chicago ave and state street beautful but chicago and austin is total SHIT?
How about no trash Division and rush st. but go to division and central............................
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12/04/2009 02:42:00 AM
Location, location, location!
Anonymous said...
Ed Burke is a smooth talker alright, but, he's still full of shit ! Nothing Eddie says can smooth out the mess that Shortshanks has "spent" us into.
12/04/2009 12:10:00 AM
But will eddie give up his new police spec crown vic? 7 Drivers all at d-3 rate + all the overtime. How about the clout officers he has sattioned up on the 4th floor like pets outside his office? ED THE TIME IS NOW PLEASE STFU! HYPOCRITE!
Simply put: the teachers have a better union and better representation. God willing the CPD will get an excellent contract soon.
God bless the CPD and nobody else.
12/04/2009 04:19:00 AM
It has nothing to do with a better union. it has everything to do with one simple word,"STRIKE!" The teachers along with every other dept. minus the CPD and CFD have the ability and option to strike, we do not. Garbage men threaten to strike, give them a contract. Why bother trying to settle when they know we have to show up to work. Wait several years, go to arbitration while collect interest on the last several years with NO penalty to the city. It's simple economics 101 and dickhead and crew know it.
Does anybody know what the arbitrator can look at when he determines his ruling? What's off limits? What's included?
I have two requests.
Please don't tell me to go to the meetings.
I'm not looking for speculation. I'm looking for someone who has a knowledgable and definitive answer to how the arbitrator does his thing.
THE ONLY RELIEF I GET FROM THIS BULLSHIT IS KNOWING HOW I CONTINUE TO GENERATE "0" REVENUE FOR THIS SHIT CITY.
KMA
I/F
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Good to hear. And I am sure that as soon as the contract is resolved, and it WILL be resolved, you will ramp it up and really start earning your money.Or probably not, you will find another excuse to let the guy who sits next to you in roll call do the work. Because that's what happens you know. When you sit on a job or do the gas up, carwash, put air in the tire, I can't take the job squad cause I just got to my lunch location shit, someone else wearing that same uniform goes and does the job.
I know that I am going to get ripped for this, but this no revenue stuff. That means no writing tickets, right? I sure hope that the jagoff that you ignore that runs the light doesn't t-bone a relative of yours or another copper or an ambulance or firetruck.
How do dogasses like you look at yourself in the mirror?
Rip away.
25 yrs.
In a District.
Why is Chicago ave and state street beautful but chicago and austin is total SHIT?
I think u answered you own question?
"chicago and austin is total shit".
I just heard this one --- ONLY 6 aldercreatures gave back SOME furlough time.....SOME.....Where is the media for this one....
all the commanders play footsie with these alderdogasses. makes my skin crawl. they should also rename CAPS to alderman s flunkie office. lets start by electing pro police to run against these tools. lots of pro police families on northwest and southwest sides. got to start somewhere.
City Hall told downtonw there wil be NO promotions in 2010.
25 years in a district--- you don't like the pooches, too fuckin bad pussy--- why doesn't your sgt do something about it ????????
I know that I am going to get ripped for this, but this no revenue stuff. That means no writing tickets, right? I sure hope that the jagoff that you ignore that runs the light doesn't t-bone a relative of yours or another copper or an ambulance or firetruck.
How do dogasses like you look at yourself in the mirror?
Rip away.
25 yrs.
In a District.
12/04/2009 04:04:00 PM
OK my man, here is your rip. You and guys like you are why I came on the job. The men and women that are Police Officers first. You show up on our jobs, assist, crash the doors, stop the cars and patrol the streets with purpose.
You complain with the rest, maybe give them a parker or two less when they treat us like trash, but you are the Police when the call comes in.
There are, and always will be dogs on this job. Seems like we got more in the last ten years. They all are very vocal with the "no contract" I'm not working crap - but none of them were working anyway. Look at the numbers. They're not that bad across the
city.
We've had Superintendents we didn't respect before, and we never liked the Mayor. We have a contract, it's the old one we are working under and it's probably better than the one we are going to get. We are going to get retro or not. That's the only difference.
This is our City and the longer you let the mongrels roam, the harder it will be to put them back in the pen.
Why is Chicago ave and state street beautful but chicago and austin is total SHIT?
How about no trash Division and rush st. but go to division and central and look around!
12/04/2009 02:42:00 AM"
different nature of native life forms.
12/04/2009 06:36:00 AM
And there taxpayers on Rush Street not tax eaters as they are at Central and Austin.
25 years in a district--- you don't like the pooches, too fuckin bad pussy--- why doesn't your sgt do something about it ????????
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Now there is a well thought out response. My answer would be that I can only take care of the things which are in my control. If you have a question for a Sgt, ask one.
OK my man, here is your rip. You and guys like you are why I came on the job. The men and women that are Police Officers first. You show up on our jobs, assist, crash the doors, stop the cars and patrol the streets with purpose.
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That's not a rip, that's me and you on the same page.
Thanks and stay safe.
I don't have the exact numbers so I can't do it but someone with the exact numbers could add the salarys of eddies security force, secretarys, security cameras, city owned vehicles, rented buildings (with utilities) and see what this mobbed up asswipe costs the citizens of the city of chicago every year.
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