Nothing Better To Do?
Seriously?
- off the subject..but does anyone know why J-Fed is auditing exempts' emails? is it just certain exempts? scandal brewing?
is he tired of leaks to SCC? afraid of politically incorrect ones?lawsuits? exempts have said no emails unless directly job related..very directly...any one know what is going on?
One theory in the replies:
- The email policy is mainly due to upcoming changes in FOIA laws. They don't want slick attorneys getting their hands on private intra-department info.
Plausible. There are new FOIA rules coming up after the first of the year and they seem more sweeping than ever. One might imagine that e-mails back-and-forth over "merit" picks, dinner plans and policy changes fall under the "discoverable" umbrella.
Or he could just be looking for those dozen or so exempts who forward ...well, never mind.
Or he could just be looking for those dozen or so exempts who forward ...well, never mind.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
17 Comments:
Hahahahahahahahahahaha. Too little too late my pig-eyed prick.
yep they are covered under foia!
A CERTAIN MAYOR IN DETROIT WAS BANGING AN EMPLOYEE, THEY FOIA HIS TEXT MESSAGES W/ HER AND NAILED HIM TO THE CROSS.
THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE SMART TO RID THEMSELVES OF CITY ISSUED PHONES.
BUT GUESS WHY THEY DONT THE SUPPLIER GIVES VERY EXOTIC PHONES TO CERTAIN PERSONS W/ NO BILLS... OF COURSE IT IS ONLY TO TESTS THE PHONES IN THE FUTURE.
ALSO J-FED DEPARTMENT EMAIL IS THE CITY ISSUED 1 MEANING ARE LOYAL SUPE CAN SET ALL ARE EMAILS TO ALERT HIM IF ANY CERTAIN KEYWORDS ARE TYPED I.E. WEIS/MASTER/J-FED ETC ETC.
WHY DO U THINK THE WARNING ALL OVER THE PUTER WHEN U LOG ON!
BUT TECH IS MOVING SO FAST THAT EVENTUALLY ALL CELL PHONES WILL BE JUST AS FAST AS THE PUTER AT WORK AND EVERYONE CAN SEND ALL THAT GREAT PORN AS USUAL.
VALKYRIE!
I'm sure you're on the right track, SCC. Probably every morning there is a flurry of e-mails flying around the Dept that start like this:
"Dear _________(enter one of the following: Sgt, Lt, Capt, Commander, Deputy, Jody, Beatrice, Mike, Danny, etc).
Don't know if you follow this kind of thing, but the blueshirts are skewering ___________(enter one of the following: you, us, Jody, The Mayor, etc.) AGAIN on Second City Cop.
Just thought you'd like to know because YOU KNOW the man at City Hall won't be happy about THIS! And while we're on the subject, do you have any idea HOW SCC got this information in the first place?"
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Not a cop, but my main job is email administration. Be careful, that stuff is kept forever. So if anyone even forwards you something and it does not smell right, just press delete. You cannot get in any trouble by deleting, but if you reply, then it is you ass. Just a word of advice. I was on the team that busted the Boeing CEO with the sex emails that was sent from his work account.
As to the FOIA - The city of Dallas took a hit a short time ago. It wasn't the PD but another city agency involved. Bottom line -it was ruled that city owned blackberries are subject to the FOIA.
Emails have been "discoverable" for years now from a legal standard. Its when they are deleted and later found forensically; that's when the lawyers have field days...
Not a cop--but not that not a cop or the other not a cop either---:)
Okay conspiracy theorist, if you want to play Mad-Libs, I'm game. I'm just going to give MASTERS as an answer to every blank!
I suppose the TIF budget, however, will remain secret.
Me thinketh the WEISel checketh fellow Gold stars for loyalty in the electronic mails...willing to bet that a lot of stuff that ends up being published here comes directly from City issued cell phones and the CPD.org e-mail system, from computers that would otherwise be collecting dust on the upper floors of 3510...
so ur saying if i recieved mail from huberman and masters doing daleys son in uniform I should delete it? just wondering..LIFM
A change in the FOIA law would only effect how others outside your overnment agency (the press, watch dog groups) obtain email or other documents generated on your system.
As to the senior leadership of the CPD browsing your or anyone elses email to see what you're doing or talking about on the job, that's not a FOIA issue. They already have an unrestricted right to read any of your emails if they want to (if you sent them on a government computer - your personal computer at home still has complete FOIA protection).
Bottom line - when you are using a work computer (that is, a computer owned by your employer, the CPD in this case), you can expect ZERO expectation of privacy. Everything on the computer, including corespondence files on the hard drive, are not yours - they are the property of your employer.
In regard to "...exempts have said no emails unless directly job related..." - that's an kneejerk overreaction by a couple of pencil-necked geeks at headquarters. While any employer can set those kind of rules (eg - absolutely no personal business done on department computers), in general, this is so unrealistic and unenforceable that the courts back the employees on it. What the actual standard is that employees can use computers (and other media) for personal affairs in moderation to the extent that it does not interfere with the performance of their duties. So you're in the office working and you want to email (or call on your desk phone) your wife to discuss dinner plans that evening for a few minutes - cool beans. However, say you're supposed to be working, but instead you spend eight hours watcing YouTube instead - not at all cool. The exceptions - porn and using a work computer for personal (money making) business. Porn is obviously a "do it and get fired" deal. Using your work computer to work on the Ebay business you're doing on the side - even if it's during your lunch hour or off-duty hours - still a no-no and could probably get you fired (depending on how much your boss likes you).
Not a cop, but 25 years as a government employee working with FOIA and privacy issues.
Speaking of nothing better to do, Channel 7 News just had Jody, Beatrice, Peterson, and Brust ringing the bell at a Salvation Army bucket collecting coins... (to hire more PO's, no doubt!).
NEVER use department e-mail addresses for other than Department stuff!
The e-mail is the property of the Chicago Police and there is NO expectation of privacy, no different than the desks and lockers in your units!
The city can go in there anytime they want and take a looksy!
There have been more than a few cases where Officers went to jail for having stuff i.e. contraband in their lockers on police property!
The e-mail is no different! Hell, I don't even log on to Department stuff from my house! Even that can be subject to a subpoena and a motion to discovery!
Use your heads people!
They can "have a field day" with all the emails my co-workers and I send back and forth describing the very politically incorrect things we tell each other to do to parts of our bodies...all in the name of camaraderie and good ole ball busting. No room for that under the J-Fed regime.
Emails have been "discoverable" for years now from a legal standard. Its when they are deleted and later found forensically; that's when the lawyers have field days...
Not a cop--but not that not a cop or the other not a cop either---:)
12/07/2009 08:28:00 AM
....true dat. Search warrants and computers, love them. You search the computer for word docs and emails and viola, tons of stuff, many of it not work-related, some criminal related to the charges, A LOT scandalous! No wonder they settle out of court so fast.
kma dic
jfed for mayor in 2011
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