Police Shootings NW & W Side (UPDATES)
- Chicago police shot a suspect Monday night in the Cragin neighborhood on the Northwest Side.
The suspect's condition was not known, but no officers were hurt in the shooting.
The shooting happened shortly before 11 p.m. in the 5500 block of West Henderson Street.
Officers unhurt, details sketchy.
UPDATE: Suspect in the 016 shooting has expired.
UPDATE: 011 shooting overnight also - Hamlin and Chicago. Officers all ok at this time.
UPDATE: Suspect in the 016 shooting has expired.
UPDATE: 011 shooting overnight also - Hamlin and Chicago. Officers all ok at this time.
Labels: shooting
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
65 Comments:
Damn! Good job officers ! Your right SCC they are everywhere how many this year...
God Job to Po's!
O.T. Could anyone tell me why the union contracts for the Lt's and Captain's association are so secretative. Apparently anyone can navigate through their websites but not everyone can access the contracts(need username/password).
Why is it that the FOP's and the Sgt. Association's contracts are available to everyone but not the Lt's. and Captain's. Is this public information or not?
I was just curious because I'm on one of promotional lists (if any are ever made again) but am trying to verify somethings but can't.
Someone was telling me that the Lt.'s & Captains sold the rest of us out because to be eligilbe to be promoted for Lt & Cpt. there are numerous additional requirements (financial/physical) to be met which includes the passing of the P.O.W.E.R. test even though those things weren not requirements when we started the job 20+ years ago. Do these changes apply only to new hires or to potential new promotees also?
Anyone have any additional information on this? Can the city arbitrarily just change the rules of the game in the middle of the game? What old timer do you know that has perfect finances (no divorce/major illness/child support/tuition) and is in tip top shape?
IT APPEARS THAT.... even though we all know that that crime is certainly on the way out of this city, with at the very least a 12 percent plummet thanks to the great leadership of CPD excempt staff making the most of what little ragtag force that they have left,,, the last remaining criminal elements of this city although scattered and frayed are faced with the unpalatable prospect of surrender or to face the latest wrath of the newest and unyielding CPD crime initiatives.
It is now fundamentally clear (and some of us dared to doubt Supt. Jody Weis)that the few remaining criminals that have not been eliminated have elected to shoot it out with police rather than to face the seeminly unending horizontal deluge of felony charges that flow minute to minute from the ASA`s office in this war on crime.
FURTHERMORE... I am certain that more good news will come from the CPD statistical anaylisis center as crime is all but eradicated since the the FBI has grabbed this dept by the jugular and forced it to perform like our esteemed Mayor always knew it could.
good guys go home... that's all the fuck I care about!
and a po shooting in 011 also.
To the City of Chicago a labor contract tends to be merely a list of suggestions, not something to actually adhere to.
The City breaks the FOP contract when it suits it's needs and then forces the FOP to file a grievance and go to arbitration. Once in arbitration the City then has a 50/50 chance of prevailing, thus neutralizing the offending contract language.
This is the new dirty underhanded richard m. daley way of getting back what they can't get through negotiation.
No one should ever doubt the existence of downright evil in the heart of 42 short. Officers blame all sort of misdeeds on the FOP when the real head of the axis of evil sits on his throne on the 5th floor of City Hall.
Don't doubt that for a second.
DUMP DALEY, FEBRUARY 2011, NEVER FORGET WHAT DALEY HAS DONE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THIS CITY!
DUMP THE MOTHERFUCKER ALREADY!
Nothing is secretive. There is no power test requirement by the way. I do not know where you get your info. I seriously doubt you are on the promotional list. If you were you would be smart enough to just ask a lieutenant or captain for the info.
Shoot Early, Shoot Often just like voting.
Hey 1:39 AM; Go to I-Clear and find it. If you know where to look, ALL the contracts are there, but I'm not going to tell you. Find it for yourself. Too bad you are on the list. Just another know nothing boss.
Where's the revrunds?
Why are JJ and Phather Phlay not on the tube demanding all criminals cease all criminal activity and obey the police?
Great job guys!
Keep practicing, the life you save maybe mine or another officers?
Everyone go home safe and in one piece,
except the bad guys.
POs go home. Bad guys go to hospital or morgue. Sounds like a good weekend. Be careful, folks.
yes , new lts and captains are required to pass power test ,
not required for promotion to command staff
no more promotions from current list , selection from resume
good luck , ranks will be reduced in 2010
Hello citizens I have a news flash for you. We the police officers that are paid to serve and protect will do just that. We will serve and protect you and we will serve and protect ourselves.
If you point a gun at me I will shoot you so the threat is no longer a threat. This isnt tv where we can shoot the gun from your hand this is the real world.
Point a gun at me or one of my co workers or another citizen I will shoot you because thats how we are trained.
remember respect the police and fellow man and you will live to be an old person, point a gun at me and you will wind up in a body bag.
have a happy new year all
Great job guys and gal. Say what you want about slow districts...fast districts...it's all bullshit! The scourge of society has declared war on the Police and it can and does happen everywhere. The only thing that matters is that the Police go home safe, even if it is after 8 hours of o.t. at the round table first! Good job by all involved in the numerous shootings in the city and suburbs!
Someone was telling me that the Lt.'s & Captains sold the rest of us out because to be eligilbe to be promoted for Lt & Cpt. there are numerous additional requirements (financial/physical) to be met which includes the passing of the P.O.W.E.R. test even though those things weren not requirements when we started the job 20+ years ago. Do these changes apply only to new hires or to potential new promotees also?
Anyone have any additional information on this? Can the city arbitrarily just change the rules of the game in the middle of the game? What old timer do you know that has perfect finances (no divorce/major illness/child support/tuition) and is in tip top shape?
12/29/2009 01:39:00 AM
That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Oddly enough, it was the fat, old out of shape guys that never could have passed that test in the first place that voted for it. Isn't life strange?
The "current" (old) contract is available on the CPLA website. The password protected area was for proposals and counterproposals made by both the city and the union. This was part of the agreement not to negotiate in public. Since the contract was recently ratified by the union's very narrow approval vote, once it's officially approved by the City Council it will be posted and replace the "old" contarct on the site now.
Robert Stasch
Treasurer - CPLA
01:39 you're kidding right? "Can the city arbitrarily just change the rules of the game in the middle of the game?"
How about the change to needing a college degree to be promoted? How about the change to the cost of insurance over the years? How about.... I could go on and on
Good shoot in 016 last night. I know all the POs involved and they did the right thing. Not a bunch of gun crazy nuts lookin to wear their Award of Valor on there sleeve. Just a good group of guys lookin to go home safe every night.
Great job 1662 team.
saw the news this morning ..what I don't understand is where is the neighborhood outcry?"his mama screaming "he had his hands up and da Poleece killed him" wheres the wanted Felonys hamming it up for the camera? the protest by Jeese into a Inquiry why the POLeece killed this man? AND then I saw the Address..I m just saying ..LIFM..
OT
The DoJ sacks Black Panther investigator
Justice transfers Panthers pursuer out of D.C. office
I would think the city can change the requirements for the Lts and Capts whenever they choose. Since I've been on the job they changed the Sgts requirement and didnt grandfather anyone in. When I became a PO you did not need any college to become a Sgt., now you do and the po's who were on the job before that requirement couldnt say it wasnt that way when I came on. They had to get the required 2 years of college so I dont see why the city cant change the requirement for the Capts and Lts
heard job on radio last night of a male 2 on nb train w gun and stating he wanted police to shoot him. Hopefully this was the clown that was dead in 016. Glad all POs are safe
was is an illegal SRO in the basement of a bungalow owned by an old Polish lady???
They are all over 016 and are bad news
I am glad that all the officers are okay and that it has all worked out, but I do have a bit of a bone to pick. I was on the scene at the recent shooting in 006. Late night shooting, dark yards and alleys, freezing cold. Interestingly enough, no light truck, no command van, no support units (i.e. SORT, SWAT). I see the video of the shooting scene in 016, same situation. Yet MSF gets in a shooting an hour and a half later and lo and behold, light truck, Command Van, SORT, SWAT, hell I think I saw the National Guard! (Sarcasm) My point is where are all these assets when the lowly district guys need them? Where is all this equipment? Are the districts not worthy? In 006 we got a silly black brinks truck with a freaking Kmart work light taped to a ladder for support. Sort of makes you feel like SOS has risen from the grave. The king is dead, long live the king.
What old timer do you know that has perfect finances (no divorce/major illness/child support/tuition) and is in tip top shape?
12/29/2009 01:39:00 AM
PLEASE tell me that due to my marital status, I'll not be promoted. By the time my lawyer is done, I'll never have to work another day. Punitive damage awards on this type of discrimination can be pretty hefty.
The contract agreements did not "sell anyone out" "IF" you were on some supposed "list" then you might be aware of these issues.....I seriously doubt you are a Sgt....so you are a po hoping to get promoted to Sgt...good luck
Hey SCC, here is more evidence that lawyers can be pure fucking scum...
http://207.41.16.133/rfcViewFile/09cv7849.pdf
RIP PO Valadez.
uhoh. Looks like e.b. missed the west side party sat. night. Or maybe that was on purpose? Hope they seize the d.j. equipment. Haha.
There are no additional requirements to be promoted...that's just the usual scuttlebut that we seem to pass on to each other as gospel...
Loved the story in today's Sun Times about Officer Mullen (CPD, shot and paralyzed in the line of duty) and his applesauce business.
Looks delicious - I bought two jars (VERY affordable, and no preservatives or junk) online.
Please pass along, SCC!
Officer Mullen has yet to make a profit - let's change that!
www.mullenfoods.com
I love happy endings as in Da Offender is GONE!
The only reason homicides are less this year is because CPD shot way more homicide offenders. If we do not kill offenders, innocent people die. Simple math:
3 killers - we kill 1 = 33% reduction in homicides.
SCC: The large amount of officer involved shootings aren't an unusual spike. Shit is starting to fly and we're in the winter months; wait until summer. The summer of 2010 will be tragic and Weis the "Cubicle Cop" will be dumbfounded.
Weis and his policy group were very, very lucky of a mild 209 summer. 2010 will be out of control.
Have COS call for the light truck and additional resources. I'm sure they will come if called. Remember were ain this shit together.
I was at the shooting on Springfield. The guy was shot in the chest twice, and was talking and walked to the ambulance. In comparison, you or me could fall off a stepladder, hit our heads and die. You cannot kill these idiots.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am glad that all the officers are okay and that it has all worked out, but I do have a bit of a bone to pick. I was on the scene at the recent shooting in 006. Late night shooting, dark yards and alleys, freezing cold. Interestingly enough, no light truck, no command van, no support units (i.e. SORT, SWAT). I see the video of the shooting scene in 016, same situation. Yet MSF gets in a shooting an hour and a half later and lo and behold, light truck, Command Van, SORT, SWAT, hell I think I saw the National Guard! (Sarcasm) My point is where are all these assets when the lowly district guys need them? Where is all this equipment? Are the districts not worthy? In 006 we got a silly black brinks truck with a freaking Kmart work light taped to a ladder for support. Sort of makes you feel like SOS has risen from the grave. The king is dead, long live the king.
12/29/2009 12:45:00 PM
Did you request any support? Did anyone?
Anonymous said...
God Job to Po's!
O.T. Could anyone tell me why the union contracts for the Lt's and Captain's association are so secretative. Apparently anyone can navigate through their websites but not everyone can access the contracts(need username/password).
Why is it that the FOP's and the Sgt. Association's contracts are available to everyone but not the Lt's. and Captain's. Is this public information or not?
I was just curious because I'm on one of promotional lists (if any are ever made again) but am trying to verify somethings but can't.
Someone was telling me that the Lt.'s & Captains sold the rest of us out because to be eligilbe to be promoted for Lt & Cpt. there are numerous additional requirements (financial/physical) to be met which includes the passing of the P.O.W.E.R. test even though those things weren not requirements when we started the job 20+ years ago. Do these changes apply only to new hires or to potential new promotees also?
Anyone have any additional information on this? Can the city arbitrarily just change the rules of the game in the middle of the game? What old timer do you know that has perfect finances (no divorce/major illness/child support/tuition) and is in tip top shape?
===================================
The FOP & Sgt can make it where it is private to members only on thier web site even if it is public info. As far as the promotions requiring certain things that can be up to some legal challenges. I was told by a lawyer that if they were not requirements when the test was given that canidates can argue that the city is changing the requirements in the middle of the list that is up. It wouldn't matter what the requiremments were when you can on the job, but what they were when you took the test.
Anonymous said...
The only reason homicides are less this year is because CPD shot way more homicide offenders. If we do not kill offenders, innocent people die. Simple math:
3 killers - we kill 1 = 33% reduction in homicides.
12/29/2009 04:03:00 PM
==================================
If this is how you do math you are in BIG trouble. So according to your math if the police kill 3 killers there will be no more homicides in Chicago.
I have NO DESIRE, nor the Fire to get promoted anymore!
Sadly, only goal left on this department is to retire with a pension and then get the fuck out of this city!
SO take your power test and stick up your ass J-Fed!
FUCK Daley and his Dumbo Command Staff!
Burt Devlinn said...
Hello citizens I have a news flash for you. We the police officers that are paid to serve and protect will do just that. We will serve and protect you and we will serve and protect ourselves.
If you point a gun at me I will shoot you so the threat is no longer a threat. This isnt tv where we can shoot the gun from your hand this is the real world.
Point a gun at me or one of my co workers or another citizen I will shoot you because thats how we are trained.
remember respect the police and fellow man and you will live to be an old person, point a gun at me and you will wind up in a body bag.
have a happy new year all
12/29/2009 10:00:00 AM
I'm a law-abiding citizen and a gun owner, and I agree with you sir! Keep up the good work. Remember guys, not all of us citizens are against you, or think you are being too harsh.
Harsh to me is me getting pulled over for speeding (the extent of my criminal infractions) and getting verbally abused - thankfully this has never happened with the CPD. As for "real" criminals..for fucks sake, keep on shooting them. If they'd enact CCW, we'd help you. I can only imagine what a circus that would be though.
1. Tort reform.
2. Police contract/hiring
3. Strengthening of castle doctrine/Make My Day law(s)
4. Dissolve unconstitutional handgun ban.
5. Legalize CCW w/ FOID, range qualification, and some classroom time on use of firearms and the law...all for a minimal, reasonable fee (say $250 for 5 years).
Keep fighting the good fight. Things will either turn around eventually, or we'll all have moved out and left the city to the dogs by then.
56 with two days left
Thanks for saving the tax payers years of Room and Board for these assholes.
Thanks for not letting it go to trial where they would likely get parolee and re-commit the same crimes again.
Signed
A Tax payer.
@ shoot Early,shoot Often LMAO!!! Too funny
SHOOTING IN 002 SOMEWHERE AROUND 54-5600 S CALUMET TO INDIANA. COPPERS OK AS OF 2020 HRS
12/29/2009 12:45:00 PM -
Well, did anyone ASK for the light truck? I've been on shootings where the light truck was called in. They were more than happy to oblige.
I will not Monday quarterback anyone in their determination of what support is needed at any crime scene. That's the responsibility of the detectives and sergeants in keeping their people safe and keeping the crime scene preserved.
Thank God the rules are being changed. One more rule would suffice. Rule #1 If your family member was or is exempt, you can NEVER be exempt. Yes, that would change the game. Signed... A legit PO sick of shit bird nepotism.
More missiles forcibly injected into a two legged mutt near 54th & Indiana. No real details but indications are that the Police are ok, thank goodness.
Officers... Continue lighting that ass on fire in order to go home to your loved ones. This is all part and parcel of 42 extra-short's vendetta aided and abetted by j-fart & the exempts, emboldening these dogs to commit brazen attacks against Police Officers.
Absolutely NO ONE in a position to be able to give a shit about us gives a shit about us, BUT US!
Remember, these are the smartest, bravest, most experienced & street savvy Police Managers (ugh!) in the history of CPD. Their response to the toilet of society overflowing is skewing crime stats, shrinking the department through attrition and picking Policemen's pockets during the holidays to generate additional b.s. write-ups with enhanced sanction. (So predictable as to be pathetic and a legacy of avowed Police hater, forcibly retired D/S C.W. & his ilk)
This is the best they have to offer, they have no real answers to fix what they had a hand in breaking. So funny to see bosses trying to emulate the blue shirts by going into survival mode. We reckon "those pukes in Patrol" know a thing or three about survival huh bosses?
As far as these dogs who like to point guns at the Police... We are obligated to give them all the death & destruction they can stand. If violence is the only language you understand, we speak it fluently.
(OT) FOP's email sucks,they never respond, but yet tell us to email them! Looks like Mike shields if he decides will be a easy win,as long as he picks all new LEARDERS! Something we don't have!
The summer of 2010 will be tragic and Weis the "Cubicle Cop" will be dumbfounded.
----
Now that's funny right there, I don't care who you are.
DUMP DALEY, FEBRUARY 2011, NEVER FORGET WHAT DALEY HAS DONE TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THIS CITY!
DUMP THE MOTHERFUCKER ALREADY!
__________________________________
T-shirts and bumperstickers ought to be a good start with a list of his greatest blunders on the back like a concert tour. I'll take one of each.
Hey SCC, here is more evidence that lawyers can be pure fucking scum...
http://207.41.16.133/rfcViewFile/09cv7849.pdf
RIP PO Valadez.
12/29/2009 02:36:00 PM
I suggest calling that lawyer and letting him know how much of a scum bag he his.
Gregory E. Kulis & Associates, Ltd.
30 N La Salle St. Chicago IL 60602
312-580-1830
Anonymous said...
yes , new lts and captains are required to pass power test ,
not required for promotion to command staff
no more promotions from current list , selection from resume
good luck , ranks will be reduced in 2010
12/29/2009 09:52:00 AM
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
Anonymous said...
Did you request any support? Did anyone?
Question...Why in the blue hell do you have to request support when a fellow officer is involved in a shooting? Support should be mandatory! "Shots fired at..." or "Shots fired by..." the police is tantamount to a 10-1! There should be hordes of blue and whites screaming to the scene to offer support. SWAT, SORT, MSF, TRU, D-unit, Helicopter, Lions, tigers and bears...Oh my!!!! The mere fact that there is a "shots fired" call made by the police is a request for help in and of itself!!! So to answer your question...did anyone call for support? YES!!! The officer that fired those shots called for support the moment he/she called it out on the air!!!
Lt. Stasch thanks for the reply, however can you address the point concerning the"power test"? Will the next Lt class or future Lt promotions require a power test? Just looking for a clarification.
Thanks
Anonymous said...
56 with two days left
12/29/2009 07:02:00 PM
Good luck and God Bless!
I am pretty fuckin' jealous, with 19 on but still 12 to go to make 55... Have a great retirement!
56 with two days left. Thankyou and have a great life
If we keep shooting all the taxpayers....WE'LL NEVER GET A RAISE!!
To: 56 and two days left.
From: Me
Subject: Your impending retirement
1.) Please allow me to live vicariously through you, if even for a single night, and twist the biggest fattie you can find the papers for and commence the inhaling.
2.) Repeat paragraph one.
Let's finish the out the year in a BANG! Happy Hunting!!!
There are two kinds of police shootings: Good ones and better ones!
56 with two days left. Thankyou and have a great life
------------------------------
Godspeed. May you and yours enjoy a happy healthy retirement.
UPDATE: Suspect in the 016 shooting has expired.
----------------
In other words..."TIME'S UP, MOTHERFUCKER!!!"
I suggest calling that lawyer and letting him know how much of a scum bag he his.
Gregory E. Kulis & Associates, Ltd.
30 N La Salle St. Chicago IL 60602
312-580-1830
12/30/2009 02:33:00 AM
Pretty sad. Pathetic, too. One officer loses his partner and now faces a lawsuit and the other one can't defend himself.
It's like rifling through a dead man's pockets. Is this what they teach in law school?
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
56 with two days left
12/29/2009 07:02:00 PM
Todays the day---congratulations and thanks
Anonymous said...
I have NO DESIRE, nor the Fire to get promoted anymore!
Sadly, only goal left on this department is to retire with a pension and then get the fuck out of this city!
SO take your power test and stick up your ass J-Fed!
FUCK Daley and his Dumbo Command Staff!
12/29/2009 06:42:00 PM
DejaVu all over again, I feel as if I wrote the above post, I certainly agree 100% with it.
DUMP DALEY 2011
Post a Comment
<< Home