Witch Hunts
Unhappy people at IAD? What's going on there?
- It's no rumor. One of IAD agents has turned on IAD prior to her retirement. She had an audience with the Supt and McMasters' telling them about the ills. As a result, sgts must leave to-froms justifying their reasons for being there. This is only the beginning.
Or this one:
- Oh I'm hoping that someone hears the Iad Retiree and makes major changes. Too bad she came forward so late about the bs that goes on over there.
A very well known law firm has just been retained by a po who just came back to work and is now being messed with again.
Stop those witch-hunts that have been coming out of IAD.
It's not like IAD is running illegal First Amendment investigations in violation of Department Policy, General Orders, and existing Federal Consent Decrees concerning protected speech by citizens, is it? Anyone want to answer that one? Maybe a former Lt. assigned to Unit 121?
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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Don't these nitwits ever learn?
Just the tip of the ice berg folks! One whistle-blower has come forward recently and a couple already in the past year.
STay tuned...
since you're hinting at a supposed never happened in the first place 1st amendment investigation, wouldn't that be subject to an FOIA request? say by a newsmedia outlet looking at CPD compliance with the proper police purpose threshold. Especially if someone got dumped over it(even though it never happened)!
Hmmmm, does this soon to be retiree's last name start with a S??????
IAD has been covering up criminal actions of the CLOUTED for years while hammering the UNCLOUTED for the most minor trnasgressions.
There are more than a few situations that are popping up in relation to IAD. I would venture to guess that IAD will be completely revamped in 2010 and that a few people will retire soon.
It it time that the two-tier system of CPD discipline is outed.
I salute this Sergeant and her efforts to bring light to a very corrupt unit.
IAD only investigates what it is told to investigate.
What is the consensus opinion on IAD Chief Juan Rivera?
MOST of the people at IAD give the sworn personnel way more credibility than the citizens and go out of their way to help the police. Others believe that the police are always wrong. She is one of the latter and will jam a copper faster than anybody else up there. She hasn't been on the street in the past 10 years and is just causing some shit before she leaves. I can't believe they even gave the goof an audience but then again the people that gave her the audience are goofs themselves. JFED and Masters
Rivera may be the head of IAD, but Brust is running things. And he and the Fed cmdr are trying like hell to make it as draconian as Weis ran the FBI Professional Bureau. In spite of contracts and law.
Screw the feebs, Free Bill Cozzi, and Masters, Masters, Masters.
Sorry, SCCn but I don't see that we have anything to worry about here. Everyone and their Mama knows that the only decent investigations IAD does are the ones dropped in their laps by the Feds that they stumble upon while making cases against real bad guys. They should just hang a sign over the doors of IAD that reads 'Sloths Inc.' Remember the sloth is an animal that spends up to 80% of it's time sleeping upside down in a tree.
No need to get your panties in a bunch! Everyone knows that IAD is headed up by two handpicked, capable men, both former Feds, at the cmdr level (Climas) and Deputy Supt (Brust) by our illustrious Supt. If there were any chinks in IAD's armor, it would have been spotted by now and corrective actions would have been taken.
Trust me on this!
About 12 years ago a guy I worked with in patrol went to IAD. He thought he would do invetigative work and get a leg up for advancement.He was not raised in Chicago and was naive about the way things work here and actually thought he could do some good for himself and the job.We tried to school him, but some things you have to learn the hard way.
I ran in to him when he was back in patrol and he told me IAD was the worst experience of his life. He lasted about 6 months and had to really fight to get out,and thought about leaving the job. He started having serious medical problems and losing his hair.
He said the Sgt's and Lt's had more intrest in personal vendettas of their own or one's requested by supervisors outside the unit than stopping actual criminal activity since that might involve a protected supervisor looking bad. He told me that when he questioned a supervisors motives he was told they could easily make allegations and start an investigation on him. It was just safer to go after people they hated who had no clout.
SCC,
don't tell me the MOrons running CPD are trying to figure out your identity.
Dumbasses.
That wee wittle thang called the U.S. Constitution gives you the right to criticize or satirize any public figure.
If they do find out your secret squirrel identity and try to retaliate against you.........
Hell, the first round is on you. You will be able to afford it after the settlement.
retiree, book a smaller room
When you promote idiots because of who they know/ blow/ are related to you are going to have some problems.
Oh! Please tell me that Chief Browns goings on will be investigated. Or not
Top IAD scumbags are the CPD's version of the old Soviet KGB and the Nazi SS.
Ask Johnny Northside about his bogus IAD arrest for blowing the whistle on Leroy Martin's rigged oral ExamScam. "Notify the watch commander", my ass.
Juan Rivera is a top notch guy, always has been
MOST of the people at IAD give the sworn personnel way more credibility than the citizens and go out of their way to help the police. Others believe that the police are always wrong. She is one of the latter and will jam a copper faster than anybody else up there. She hasn't been on the street in the past 10 years and is just causing some shit before she leaves. I can't believe they even gave the goof an audience but then again the people that gave her the audience are goofs themselves. JFED and Masters
2/22/2010 12:34:00 AM
Agreed 110%! This woman is the epitome ( if you are Dana Starks, that rhymes with "epi-dome" ) of why the working coppers hate IAD! She tried like hell to sustain everything, and spoke to coppers like children.
Just another one of the entitled women in that unit that think they should have the world handed to them. Or at least a promotion.
She tried to force Cline to make all the "police agents" into Detectives, he laughed at her.
She trashed Juan Rivera in a letter to the Supe. That should tell you all you need to know about this vile goof. Rivera is the best thing to happen to that unit, especially for the coppers who may make a mistake but their heart was in the right place.
Trust me, her beefing had nothing to do with the outcome of clout heavy cases.
On that subject, I wish you guys would realize that those cases get "fixed" after they leave IAD's hands. Command Channel Review, Police Board, the Supe himself.
BIG THINGS TO COME OUT OF IAD. THEY FUCKED UP THIS TIME AND THERE IS NOT ENOUGH CARPET FOR THIS TO BE SWEPT UNDER. FIRED COPS RETURNING AND FINDING OUT THEY HAD CASES PUT ON THEM.
I blame the Superintendant. When my family member was set up by IAD and axed, I informed the top, guess what was done-NOTHING. This is no surpise to me
It's about time the department woke up and moved the sergeants back to patrol. IAD has been a hiding ground ever since Rowan headed it.
I think I know that retiree. She handled one of my CR's and unfounded it. She doesn't take any bullshit and did real good by me.
She was incredibly naive to go to the Supt. and co. If she really wants to accomplish anything, she needs to go to the media.
What is the consensus opinion on IAD Chief Juan Rivera?
2/22/2010 12:27:00 AM
He's actually doing a decent job. And he's worlds better than the last person to hold the job - she was a complete and utter psycho.
When you promote idiots because of who they know/ blow/ are related to you are going to have some problems.
2/22/2010 04:21:00 AM
We take offense to that last remark, but we can see why you might think that.
Keep in mind things are slow up north. She needs to keep busy, and as hard as I try not to interfere, problems still happen. She has it in her head that vendettas are the way to go. I don't want any friction and always keep out of it, but damn it if her intrigues aren't the bomb.
Does anyone have anything?
Just curious - are the initials LS?? If it is, oh please - the biggest headache you'll ever know. Just ask her about her pinch in 012 - called for a car to handle it cuz IAD doesn't do paper.
To the whining IAD sergeant too fucking bad your secrets out maybe you'll have to do some real police work. And to bad that the agent didn’t have the balls to say something sooner. We all know that the sergeants are the ones that stick it to you by making the penalty suggestions not the agents. And if the agent that is retiring is the one that helped me and my partner out then I’m sorry to see her go, at least you knew you were getting a fair investigation with her not like IPRA.
Ohh, I hope this leads to a lot of US getting some $$$ from the shitty...
The IAD Chief is a real cop but he has to answer to Brust and that man is a TOOL!
Who polices the police that police the police?????????????
Wait; the comments say she's worked there for ten years? And where were her ETHICS the past nine? If she didn't report anything the past nine years (just hiding out and covering her own ass), then she should get a boot and a buh-bye now. What a waste of air some people are.
Who is the well known law firm retained by a P.O.? I want to file my own suit and am looking for some suggestions.
If someone steps on the toes of an investigator(Police AGent), or a sgt, etc, at any point in their career, then when that names comes across their desk, its payback time!
This is pretty evident given some of the cases that are being sustained.
When you promote idiots because of who they know/ blow/ are related to you are going to have some problems.
2/22/2010 04:21:00 AM
ditto.
So are they going tell why they dropped the investigation regarding the condo that was owned by an an exempt where they found drugs and guns? That it happened to be a condo where an exempt's daughter lived with her boyfriend? Whatever happened to that investigation?????
What about all the coppers that have been railroaded in the past by these politically motivated witch hunts?
Now is the time to rectify the heinous persecutions that some have received from IAD's mishandling of CR#'s and inept investigations.
Maybe a Federal investigation of IAD needs to commence ASAP!
Who investigates IAD? Where are the checks and balances?
Whatever happened to the Police Board CLOUT scandal?
There is bonafide evidence that some individuals paid to have their cases dismissed. The City of Chicago is aware of this and some individuals have received visits from the G.
What is taking so long?
Will this be swept under the rug too?
Maybe they should examine how certain CLOUT babies have received 30 Pending three or more times and returned to duty like nothing happened.
This is going to get BIG!
Some compare it to SALEM.....
Seems like the Chief does what he can but they try to slide things by him and right to Brust.
Hahaha that's good shit right there. An IAD rat, rats out its own unit.
Hi I'm form IAD and I'm here to help you
What is the consensus opinion on IAD Chief Juan Rivera?
2/22/2010 12:27:00 AM
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He's only there to keep the chief chair warm. In the next round of moves, he will be laterally moved back to patrol as a chief to fill the void that is there now.
I salute every comment so far
#1 all on topic - a miracle
#2 everyone hit it on the head so far.. IAD is a guided missle, anyone who thinks otherwise is potential cannon fodder
If the Police can't trust their own Internal affairs to be fair and impartial w/o clout then how can the public actually trust the POLICE???
Federal Monitor for IAD???
Another step closer to Federal oversight?
WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THE CLOUT, PATRONAGE, NEPOTISM AT ALL COSTS!!!
Speaking of privacy issues, a bit off topic, but what is up with the medical integrity unit pulling into alleys to snoop on people. There was a call in 008 a few weeks ago about a suspicious person in the alley going back and forth to their car. It was a "Department Investigator" per the beat car who coded the job. Do we not have the right to privacy in our home, in our yard etc?
IAD has been covering up criminal actions of the CLOUTED for years while hammering the UNCLOUTED for the most minor transgressions.
So very true! IAD & IPRA two of a kind for cover ups
Cowardly.
You, LS, worked in IAD for over 10 years and now decide to complain about IAD. Unfortunately, it's sour grapes and taken as such. Anyone who ever listened to this miserable person dismissed her as such. Go retire and realize your career was a waste of your time and the city's.
That happened with Gordons brother that got killed in 011 go get em.He got fired for nothing,when he was a recruit.
Who polices the police that police the police?????????????
2/22/2010 12:46:00 PM
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You just blew my mind.
Does this mean they will reopen the most recent sexual harrassment case against chief E.B. that they made disappear as fast as a fart? He's an ignorant arrogant lying piece of poop you know.
I have never, never heard anyone jammed up by IAD on purpose.
I locked up copper', (Not IAD) cause they did criminal acts. I did feel sorry pinching them, but they had to go. Fuck em. They made us all look like assholes,
Who is the the Lt. there now ?
Brust is in CHARGE... I guess that just proves that its okay for him to take a bribe/ gratuity from an underling Cmdr. Those cases just "go away"
Maybe the FBI ought to investigate the ex-FBI.
Why don't you call your boy Pat Fitzgerald on this one Jody? Poor Billy Cozzi could use some company... this time put away someone really guilty
Maybe the Feds should interview former Alderman Ike Carrothers (CLOUT middle man) about fixing Police Board cases.
There are alot who know!
Seems like many have personal stories that they want to bring to light.
How about instead of one po suing -we get a class action.
An action that would cover:
Cases sustained that should have never been to begin with
lack of trained investigators at iad
malicious/go after that cop/witch hunts
stacking cases so when the cop returns back to work he is slammed again ie: throw enough shit something might stick
lack of oversight ie: why when an investigator /sgt/etc, say that a copper shoudl be fired is there no channel command review but rather it goes from investigator to advocate/ to sup? Maybe someone in between could speak up and say: NO tihs person is a worker why do this? Instead of: I dont like him/her lets fuck them for a year or so and if they get back, oh well..
sitting at call back for ages rotting: what does that sort of thing do to the mental state and subsequently the physical state of the officer?
These are just a few examples.
DO we set up a forum where cops can come-maybe the union hall to openly discuss this and the need to move forward in a civil suit to stop these injustices?
Lets get some input here and see if people are really tired of this crap!
Im in -lets get an open forum at fop hall and see if we can get our strategy set.
I got it stuck up my ass for bullshit. My family has suffered plenty because of this administration.Please keep us informed on any and all suits stemming from this scc.
I locked up copper', (Not IAD) cause they did criminal acts. I did feel sorry pinching them, but they had to go. Fuck em. They made us all look like assholes,
Who is the the Lt. there now ?
Go fuck yourself and do your own investigation asshole
Seems like many have personal stories that they want to bring to light.
How about instead of one po suing -we get a class action.
An action that would cover:
Cases sustained that should have never been to begin with
lack of trained investigators at iad
malicious/go after that cop/witch hunts
stacking cases so when the cop returns back to work he is slammed again ie: throw enough shit something might stick
lack of oversight ie: why when an investigator /sgt/etc, say that a copper shoudl be fired is there no channel command review but rather it goes from investigator to advocate/ to sup? Maybe someone in between could speak up and say: NO tihs person is a worker why do this? Instead of: I dont like him/her lets fuck them for a year or so and if they get back, oh well..
sitting at call back for ages rotting: what does that sort of thing do to the mental state and subsequently the physical state of the officer?
These are just a few examples.
DO we set up a forum where cops can come-maybe the union hall to openly discuss this and the need to move forward in a civil suit to stop these injustices?
Lets get some input here and see if people are really tired of this crap!
2/23/2010 06:57:00 AM
count me in 100% just tell me where and when.
IAD does the investigations but the brass is in charge of handing out punishment to other brass. That's where the blame lies
I am not a police officer the wife of one. I have read this blog since my husband became a police officer 7 years ago and have for the most part enjoyed reading it. But this time the things that I have read here have made me fearful for my husband’s safety. The hatred that some of you have written is very disturbing and I worry that you won’t be there when he needs you. The sergeant from internal investigations seems to me to be a brave officer for coming forward. Some of you have said that she should have done it sooner, but seeing the hatred and complaint coming from the people she is trying to help would be enough to make me turn and run. Some of you have issues with her and the way she has done her job to that I will say what my mother always said to me. There are three sides to every story, yours theirs, and the truth. My husband has had problems and has been investigated by them he even has been suspended but I am proud of him because he was a man and admitted that he did wrong, to me he is a hero. Please officers as you bury one of your own take the time to examine your hearts and do what is right.
new rumor in iad is that advocate section is going bye bye and all the agents in the advocate section are going to confidential investigations to work on the call out team! they are getting take home cars and phones! HA! cry baby sergeants over there will have no more take home cars
Anonymous said...
Who polices the police that police the police?????????????
2/22/2010 12:46:00 PM
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Mealer?
A CR should be obtained on her for inattention to duty as she is complaining that she observed improprieties going on for years and now she reports it.A quick investigation, sustain the CR and 30 days pending.
'He's actually doing a decent job. And he's worlds better than the last person to hold the job - she was a complete and utter psycho.'
Complete BS. Skahill was a professional. That's why WEISel/Masters had her moved.
They wanted someone down there
that could be controlled.
Rivera's a nice guy, but he
won't ever stand up in a boat
once it has sailed.
Anonymous said...
Seems like many have personal stories that they want to bring to light.
How about instead of one po suing -we get a class action.
An action that would cover:
Cases sustained that should have never been to begin with
lack of trained investigators at iad
malicious/go after that cop/witch hunts
stacking cases so when the cop returns back to work he is slammed again ie: throw enough shit something might stick
lack of oversight ie: why when an investigator /sgt/etc, say that a copper shoudl be fired is there no channel command review but rather it goes from investigator to advocate/ to sup? Maybe someone in between could speak up and say: NO tihs person is a worker why do this? Instead of: I dont like him/her lets fuck them for a year or so and if they get back, oh well..
sitting at call back for ages rotting: what does that sort of thing do to the mental state and subsequently the physical state of the officer?
These are just a few examples.
DO we set up a forum where cops can come-maybe the union hall to openly discuss this and the need to move forward in a civil suit to stop these injustices?
Lets get some input here and see if people are really tired of this crap!
2/23/2010 06:57:00 AM
count me in 100% just tell me where and when.
2/23/2010 12:24:00 PM
What are you suggesting? I am definitely in and know several individuals who feel very strongly about this issue.
We definitely need legal guidance on this one before doing anything rash. If we stand united and move together they will have to revamp the disciplinary process.
Let me know!
Complete BS. Skahill was a professional. That's why WEISel/Masters had her moved.
They wanted someone down there
that could be controlled.
Rivera's a nice guy, but he
won't ever stand up in a boat
once it has sailed.
You got that right. Everybody knows she was moved when she got CRs on the Chief of Staff and another high ranking exempt.
Complete BS. Skahill was a professional. That's why WEISel/Masters had her moved.
They wanted someone down there
that could be controlled.
Rivera's a nice guy, but he
won't ever stand up in a boat
once it has sailed.
2/23/2010 08:14:00 PM
100% TRUE
Do not promote LS from agent to sergeant. Her best shot was trying to make agent same pay grade as ET's and horsies, since she couldn't get the sergeant bars on her own.
Hard to believe that former high ranking Federal Bureau of Investigation agents would sacrifice their integrity for $$$$$.
I believed that the truth mattered and that things would change for the better. I now see that it was all just more smoke and mirrors for public consumption.
I thought that Fidelity, Bravery and Integrity was the FBI motto?
Well-FOP
Need your input-they cant touch you for signing your name to this.
SHould we meet and will you have one of our attorneys represent us?
Too much has top be said and not enough room nor time to say it here.
Are you kidding me, FOP? We will all be retired before that ever happens. I think we need to start out own thing. Does anyone have any suggestions?
setnrecstr81@aol.com is the email addy you can use to contact me. We can meet and discuss our options of going after the department civilly and finally putting an end to the injustice brought upon many department members by some of the IAD investigators and supervisors.
Lets take this one step further and stop talking and start doing...
Masters had Skahill moved because she initiated the number on him for carrying a gun (Hamilton's) on New Years Eve. He has now bought and registered his own handgun and M4 with the superintendents permission. What a joke. I wish the media would get this
setnrecstr81@aol.com is the email addy you can use to contact me. We can meet and discuss our options of going after the department civilly and finally putting an end to the injustice brought upon many department members by some of the IAD investigators and supervisors.
Lets take this one step further and stop talking and start doing...
2/24/2010 11:15:00 PM
Count me in on this one, I will contact in the next 24hrs.
Hey blog boss:
Can you get this email addy out to folks so we can see if people have legitimate gripes about violations with IAD please. You have it from my earlier post. Maybe on something more current .
setnrecstr81@aol.com
thnks SCC!
I don't think the
psycho is Skahill-think a little farther back...
Says one of the clout crybabies in IAD who now has to prove how he got assigned there.
I'd bet my next check that the negative comments about the whistleblower are from those who are pissed off that because she told the truth they may actually get dumped back into the real world of Patrol.
In all these comments there is one thing missing: what she told J-fed and McMasters that wasn't true. We all know she didn't exactly keep it a secret she had the meeting and what she intended to say. And she offered all an opportunity to give her a list of complaints.
Classic case of character assination to divert attention from the truth.
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