Playing with Fire
Shortshanks, using Huberman as a Judas-goat, is targeting the teachers:
Mayor Daley urged the Chicago Teachers Union on Monday to enter “the real world” of shared sacrifice to avert drastic budget cuts that, Schools CEO Ron Huberman has warned, may include raising class sizes to 37 students.
- Chicago Teachers Union President Marilyn Stewart issued a statement saying that teachers “appreciate the real fiscal crisis facing Chicago Public Schools,” but they don’t believe that means they must give up salary or benefits. She urged Daley to fight for more education funding from Springfield, specifically by raising the income tax.
Stewart isn't doing the teachers any favors supporting tax increase in these times. But she's facing her own election and after all, a signed contract is worth its weight in gold. She'll sacrifice the kids and class size to protect her membership.
If Shortshanks and Huberman were serious about closing the budget gap in the schools and in the city, they'd look at all the money being spent on connected contracts and the like. See the post right below this one - we're talking billions over the past few years.
If Shortshanks and Huberman were serious about closing the budget gap in the schools and in the city, they'd look at all the money being spent on connected contracts and the like. See the post right below this one - we're talking billions over the past few years.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
71 Comments:
AS LONG AS RICH THE DICK DALEY IS IN CHARGE, THE REAL WORLD WILL NEVER COME TO FRUITION. WE WILL REMAIN IN A CHRONIC STATE OF CORRUPTION LAND.
I'm thinking about mailing the mayor a comb. He looked like an unkempt street person at today's press conference.
And then he started babbling about how this isn't twenty years ago, when times were great. Well, he's right about that. But the current teachers' contract wasn't negotiated 20 years ago when times were great, so that argument doesn't wash.
The ticket to greatness is a better educated populace. Teachers are key to that. Cutting their salaries is NOT the answer.
Maybe, just for a year or two, it's time for the fat-cats, the clouted, the connected and the graft skimmers to 'share the pain', as the mayor put it. Out of the goodness of their hearts, of course.
Huberman the jag off is preaching austerity Yet the Bd of Ed leases him TWO cars And for $1800 a MONTH
We are truly chumbaones here in Chi town
Jesus, what happened with the ILLINOIS STATE LOTTERY money. Come on...WTF. This stuff is getting old. WTF. Do I, as a cop, a middle class guy with a knowledge of Chicago got to run for mayor and straighten all this bull sh*t out. I mean WTF. This stuff is getting old, real old,real fast. We aren't slaves to this line of thinking about sacrifices here and there. All the money that was alloted for the lottery to help education you would think we would be the elite in Illinois. WTF. I am seriously thinking of running for mayor. Are my family, the CPD behind me? Come on...I'll give you guys raises....give the teachers and fireman raises...make this Chicago a great city again. I'm telling it like it is. A cop that is going to run for mayor, it can happen. Look at Jane Byrne and what happened. Stay tuned. I'm just tired and fed up.
Lewis Black the comedian had a special where he made a comment about cops and fireman, like oh yea, get rid of the cops and fireman, you don't need them. ( He was being SARCASTIC ) If I was telling the story I would have included teachers. ( I am being sarcastic ) You see, I think cops , fireman and teachers are a necessity in Chicago. Out of of all the people, these three occupations are probably the most important. Education is the key. Look at how educated people BEHAVE vs. UNEDUCATED. Case closed. Thats right...F*ck with the teachers now. Unbelievable politicians.
How about leaving all the flower pots empty for a couple of years? That oughta save a bundle. I love that Daley had them installed on Cumberland, in the middle of the forest preserve...yep, they were really needed there.
I'd also like to know why I got speed bumps in my alley since it's a t-alley about 8 houses long. No way to speed there. Now the bolts are coming up and they scrape your car unless you see them and can drive around them.
This city blows.
If they are doing this to the teachers who have a contact, what is shortshanks going to do to us? The abitrator could gives us a 16% raise and shortshanks could cry poor in August. Support the teachers now because soon it will be us.
Signed Cop whose wife is a teacher
i would pay good money to see marilyn stewart bend booberman over her knee and give him a good spanking..... marilyn has done her time and booberman is the jody weis of the cps.... these teachers have the ability to strike and hubermans plan to axe 3800 teachers will mean that summer vacation will be extended into thanksgiving---- you can only fuck with people so much and eventually they will fight back....
What about the wasted $60 million that went to some sham BS neighborhood school watch program? Can only imagine the clout wallets some of that money went into. The teachers should be screaming about that scam.
Eliminate TIFs
Let them increase class sizes, obviously small class sizes aren't doing the job.
Has anyone else noticed that where ever Huberman goes suddenly the world is going to stop? The guy is the mayor's Chicken Little. When he was at CTA it was Doomsday.
I bet that is why the mayor dumped him, he was tired of hearing him running around screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling".
37?
How much money will they waste on chairs and whips, or tasers issued teachers? And that's just to take the roll.
I worked the part timer in the schools 40 years ago, and they were zoos then. What about now?
This just reported on Fox morning news. The Illinois House has passed a bill that would shorten the school week to 4days while extending the school year. All in a effort the save money. The Bill goes to the Senate for consideration.
strike strike strike, daley would drop dead end of the dictatorship!
cpd and cfd will be next,alderman will refuse to ratify or contracts if we get raises.
Shortshanks is the common denominator in all that is wrong with Chicago. Wake up voters.
Did the flower pots bring any money to cash straaped Chicago?
All you have to do is look at TIF money. This is property tax money that was supposed to go to the schools, police,fire and other city services. Daley decieded to divert these monies into a special fund he controls with no oversite and use it to subsidize his developer friends. TIF's are the reason the city has a so called budget shortfall. If all the propert tax money was going into the general fund like it is supposed to their would be no shortfall. Daleys TIF slush fund is nothing but property tax being stolen from the citizens of Chicago.
what about that "program" where the city "paid" the kids to go to school and get good grades? No wonder there's no money for the hard working teacher or cop.
http://www.chicagobreakingbusiness.com/2010/03/chicago-homeownership-out-of-reach-for-many-with-jobs.html
Check this out. We better get a raise
Let the truants, those who constantly misbehave in school and anyone else who don't want to obey the rules get the f*ck out and concentrate on the ones who want to learn. You'd get rid of at least 1/3 of the problem. When they start to commit crime, lock their asses up and keep them there. Stop coddling the assholes and put your energies into the kids who want to succeed.
Why doesn't Daley and Burke enter the real world and give up his valet body guards? That would save the taxpaye$ $$$$$. Put the officers back into the districts. Daley wants everyone to "give up and scrifice" while he remains king of his corrupt monarchy.
When I was in grammar school, we had 50 kids in a class and we all learned. The nuns were able to manage just fine. Perhaps the CPS System just needs better teachers.
sacrifice? get rid of bad teachers? these nimrods like pointing the finger in the wrong direction. pay close attention...IT STARTS AT HOME.A KID NEEDS A LOVING FAMILY ENVIRONMENT. 2 PARENTS TEACHING THEM TO RESPECT PEOPLE AND PROPERTY.POSITIVE ROLE MODELS. look at the trouble maker kids...look at the parent(s).apple doesnt fall too far.#2- start making the freeloaders pay for their children education. i have not been in CPS for 31 years...yet i pay thru the nose! free education is only for the ''freeloaders''. why dont you ask the scammers for life to sacrifice? dont want to anger your voting blocks ?
Didn't we just finish building a new school at Grand/Central?? If we increase class sizes, what are we going to do with these brand new empty buildings. I know, the connected contractor got paid, so who cares??
I'd also like to know why I got speed bumps in my alley since it's a t-alley about 8 houses long. No way to speed there. Now the bolts are coming up and they scrape your car unless you see them and can drive around them.
3/23/2010 01:18:00 AM
Sounds like a crowbar at 0300 would solve the hump and bolt problem.
Obviously Huberman is Daley's chosen one. But since he's held top jobs with the police, CTA, and CPS you think he could think out of the box to save money before asking for concessions and eliminating positions. For example, there was a story last week how the CTA is cutting back on cleaning busses due to shortage of money, making people worry about rising filthy busses. You would think the current CTA president could hook up w/Huberman and come up with this solution: a program which has teens cleaning busses on weekends in leiu of jail time or as sort of a "Saturday detention." Huberman could use his pull in all three organizations to structure a program that puts these kids to work to clean these busses for free. Instead of the JISC and Juvenile Court syatem just giving them a slap on the hand - guess what you got 16 hours of cleaning busses. Instead of sitting home for a school suspension - guess what - you got two weekends of cleaning busses. Use the resources already there, before you start asking for concessions or cutting jobs, especially with all the crap these kids get away with. Get caught tagging - you're cleaning / painting property in the neighborhood. I remember getting a "Saturday Jug" and I spent 8 hours digging holes to plant bushes in back of the school. Time to cut at the top, and think of another way to use what we already have.
Class size is to the teachers as beats / car manning is to the police. Calling for a reduction in class size is akin to saying that we should have less beats and we don't need as many cars up.
So now what position do you have?
Let them increase class sizes, obviously small class sizes aren't doing the job.
3/23/2010 03:31:00 AM
Nice 3:30 A.M. post. Go to bed.
The money that isn't outright stolen in this administration is just plain mismanaged. It is time for a clean sweep. The mayor and his minions, all of them - aldermen, Hubberman and the rest, need to be replaced.
This is a vital City rich in people and business. It shouldn't be running in the red.
Jesus, what happened with the ILLINOIS STATE LOTTERY money. Come on...WTF. This stuff is getting old. WTF. Do I, as a cop, a middle class guy with a knowledge of Chicago got to run for mayor and straighten all this bull sh*t out. I mean WTF. This stuff is getting old, real old,real fast. We aren't slaves to this line of thinking about sacrifices here and there. All the money that was alloted for the lottery to help education you would think we would be the elite in Illinois. WTF. I am seriously thinking of running for mayor. Are my family, the CPD behind me? Come on...I'll give you guys raises....give the teachers and fireman raises...make this Chicago a great city again. I'm telling it like it is. A cop that is going to run for mayor, it can happen. Look at Jane Byrne and what happened. Stay tuned. I'm just tired and fed up.
3/23/2010 12:44:00 AM
If you are a Chicago cop, I'll be the first to say I'll vote for you. It's time to come out and run, sir. A Chicago cop for mayor. Just the idea of a Chicago cop as mayor is what I think we need. Go for it.
As another poster put it...
"And then he started babbling about how this isn't twenty years ago, when times were great. "...
Times were great twenty some years ago, under the Byrne and the even the Washington and Sawyer administrations. Look how Shorty has ruined everything!
The police had their contract, our healthcare was secure, everything was better.
Register and Vote. The Democrats have ruined everything and we need our country and our city back.
Not really OFF TOPIC...
As I sit here, I have been watching the Messiah sign the $400 B-I-L-L-I-O-N tax bill for us that he calls a National Health Care Plan.
This is one of the biggest reasons that Shortshanks, and FLOP has conspired to delay this contract. In the Sun-Times Daley calls for, "Shared sacrifice..."
Share WHAT we earned... Sacrafice WHAT we worked for, FOR WHO?
Our healthcare is going down the tubes. The price of everything is going to go up and our retirement plans are going to be shot. Our rights are to be damned.
NOTE TO REPUBLICAN PARTY: If you want to unseat Obama, hit his home state Illinois HARD! Go for the throat on Quinn, the Cook County Board and Daley.
More on this later, have to go...
Speaking of scchools....ever wonder why YOUR kid cant get into those A+ CPS schools?? Well here is the answer!
Obama’s SecEd manipulated school lists to favor powerful
Chicago Breaking News reported late last night that former Chicago schools chief and current Secretary of Education Arne Duncan manipulated a system to favor powerful political allies by placing their children in the schools of their choice. The discovery of a list, the existence of which had been long denied by the city, and its composition of mainly high-powered political figures calls into question the appeals system used to reconsider applications that had been denied by the top Chicago-area schools:
Then let the police force keep shrinking...Crime is going down.
I work at CPS and wonder how they can lay off so many people and discuss re-opening contracts with teachers, when Huberman is steadily hiring friends and clouted people at 150K plus. Also, if the teachers, firemen and police unite...lookout!
Don't be surprised if Huberman is our next superintendent. Everywhere he goes there is suddenly a huge deficit and people lose their jobs. He is Daley's poster-boy for downsizing. Fewer trains/buses, higher fares. Fewer teachers, bigger classes. Fewer officers?
Teachers, DO NOT give a penny of your hard earned contract back to this corrupt mayor and this crooked city!!! There are tons of places to eliminate waste in this city but they would rather go after your paycheck, DON'T LET HIM!!
Kids/students only show up the first day school for the head count and then you never see them again. It is all smoking mirrors
I am just wondering why Mt. Greenwood will have no extra things in school next year. Parents were told that they will have no gym, no art or no music. But the school in Englewood have activities until 9:00 at night.
Don't feed those free breakfasts and lunches..they already get food stamps/link/SSI ect....Let their lazy mamma's make them a lunch or get their lazy ass out of bed to get their kids something to eat. Why is it the schools problem to feed them?
Things weren't great 20 years ago either. The CPS laid off 3,000 people that year.
Things weren't great 30 years ago, when they didn't pay teachers for a couple of weeks.
Things weren't great 80 years ago when police officers and CPS teachers were paid in scrip for two years during the Depression.
So it is nothing new to have a financial crisis in the CPS. Yet, in the CPS, administrators hired by the new regime were given higher salaries than the people they replaced, who were either fired or retired--in some instances up to $40,000 more per year. I suppose because they are so brilliant, they will solve all financial problems of the CPS while improving the quality of education Chicago public students receive.
When the impending layoffs come, the first one to be cut will be lowest paid employees and those administrators who have fallen from grace for some reason or another.
They're going to blame the teachers now for the savage kids inability to succeed or even act remotely human. How fuckin' cynical!
I know teachers are liberal assholes for the most part, but stand with them! Their job is truly impossible in a jungle like Chicago.
I have mixed feelinga about the pay and benefits that teachers get. My tax bill shows that over 50% goes for education. Chicago spends more per student then most areas and there is no result for the money. Teachers are paid bette and have a better pension then cops and they do nothing extra without extra compensation. Then, great vacation time, 3.5 months off per year. I am tired of hearing them cry for more or going on strike with a graduation rate of 25%
I am just wondering why Mt. Greenwood will have no extra things in school next year. Parents were told that they will have no gym, no art or no music. But the school in Englewood have activities until 9:00 at night.
The parents in Mt. Greenwood need to call the alderman and let her know how pissed off you are about this, if it is true
When I was in grammar school, we had 50 kids in a class and we all learned. The nuns were able to manage just fine. Perhaps the CPS System just needs better teachers.
3/23/2010 09:50:00 AM
CPS does have better teachers and they are firing teachers that are not up to snuff. CPS is doing that right. But here's the problem. Parents with special kids are sending them to CPS schools because private schools lack the special services. Teachers are spending most of their time assisting these kids, while the regular kids wait. Teacher aides, which have been cut to save money, are only for kids that are severely handicapped. A kid with adhd needs to be stopped and refocused several times during a lesson.
Teaching like policing has changed since you have been in grammar school. There is no more clearing a corner with the squadrol or wacking fannies in the classroom. We as the police have rules, so do teachers.
when the illegal's get amnesty the whole country will become a right to work hellhole,no more unions and the messiah will win again in 2012.GUNS AND AMMO!
What most people don't know is that Daley already took a weeks pay from teachers before the olympics BS. He wants to copy the corporate model of "wait 2 weeks for your pay". We only get that money back when we quit, retire, or die. What is lower? the morale of teachers or cops in this city? Not a fun place to work.
Officer, I will vote for you & so will my whole family.....Damn I think the whole city will vote for you!!!!
I agree with 10:53 AM Tinley Park has the bad little children cleaning the squad cars on the weekends
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am just wondering why Mt. Greenwood will have no extra things in school next year. Parents were told that they will have no gym, no art or no music. But the school in Englewood have activities until 9:00 at night.
3/23/2010 01:42:00 PM
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Because we work and we care for our kids. We will make sure they are taken care of. Those in Englewood do not, for the most part, care for their kids. They believe it is up to the government and heaven forbid the DemoRats lose those votes. I will not be surprised if there is a revolution sometime in the next 20-30 years. Even the young adults see the disparity and are upset. The best thing that happened to this country was B. Hussein. O being elected. He has lied like no other Politician before him and even liberals are having second thoughts. It took Carter to give us Reagan, we can only hope what B. Hussein. O brings us.
The problem is not lack of revenue.
The problems are:
Dysfunctional families, usually one parent.
Bloated administration staff and a school board receiving insane salaries and pensions.
Teachers, well paid teachers, who don't teach and who can't be fired. Yes, there are many other good teachers who make great sacrifices working in schools where the elementary aged kids sit in class stoned from a contact high from the fumes of the parents smoking crack.
As posted in another post, the resources of the kids willing to learn should be in a Catholic or Military Academy school environment and the trouble makers ought to be delt with commenserate with their behavior.
But the liberals will bitch all the way. You know. For the kids.
Buck Naked
(not a cop)
"Class size is to the teachers as beats / car manning is to the police. Calling for a reduction in class size is akin to saying that we should have less beats and we don't need as many cars up.
So now what position do you have?
3/23/2010 10:58:00 AM"
are you seriously this retarded?
Board of Education Non Teaching Personnel were informed today of their layoffs via e-mails. Tbey were instructed not to report to work tommorrow and informed that they would be contacted when they would return to work. That's a new one, nothing like letting people keep a little dignity in these terrible times.
Daley decieded to divert these monies into a special fund he controls with no oversite and use it to subsidize his developer friends. TIF's are the reason the city has a so called budget shortfall.
Don't forget the Mob Daley has to subsidize them with contracts. Also many of the law firms are mob connected JONES DAY???? Shortshanks loves a good lawsuit
I am just wondering why Mt. Greenwood will have no extra things in school next year. Parents were told that they will have no gym, no art or no music. But the school in Englewood have activities until 9:00 at night.
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VIDEO!!!!!
The mayo ALWAYS looks like an unkempt street person. Actually, that's an insult to 99% of street people. Now apologize!
Anonymous said...
i would pay good money to see marilyn stewart bend booberman over her knee and give him a good spanking.....
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Thanks for that image now burned into my dwindling brain cells! Please!!!!
Anonymous said...
When I was in grammar school, we had 50 kids in a class and we all learned. The nuns were able to manage just fine. Perhaps the CPS System just needs better teachers.
3/23/2010 09:50:00 AM
They need Sister Veronica, the principal of my school growing up. I swear I got hit with a ruler so many times now I've got numbers tatooed all over my ass! And those pointers--ouch!!!!
I am seriously thinking of running for mayor. Are my family, the CPD behind me? Come on...I'll give you guys raises....give the teachers and fireman raises...make this Chicago a great city again. I'm telling it like it is. A cop that is going to run for mayor, it can happen. Look at Jane Byrne and what happened. Stay tuned. I'm just tired and fed up.
3/23/2010 12:44:00 AM
If you are a Chicago cop, I'll be the first to say I'll vote for you. It's time to come out and run, sir. A Chicago cop for mayor. Just the idea of a Chicago cop as mayor is what I think we need. Go for it.
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If a copper ran for mayor, I'd knock on every door in this city for him/her. I would campaign my ASS off, and not expect anything in return. What about Garrido? Numbskull or not, he'd be better than Daley. But we need someone with a completely untarnished record. We've got a lot of MBA's and MPA's and attys on this job. I SAY WHY NOT? Plus it'd have the added benefit of sending shorty to his demise. He'd splutter himself to death! YOU GO GUY/GIRL!!!
The Chicago Board of Education is a bottomless money pit!
I don't blame the teachers but the administrators who outnumber the teachers and all receive over 100G's a year.
There is so much waste in purchasing and kickbacks that it would take the FBI and the US Attorneys Office ten years to arrest and prosecute all of those involved.
ONLY IN SHITCAGO!
DUMP DALEY!!!
RE cop running for mayor...
I'd vote for you and campaign for you. If Mr. Community organizer Barry Obama can run for senate then become president, a city cop can be mayor of Chicago.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
When I was in grammar school, we had 50 kids in a class and we all learned. The nuns were able to manage just fine. Perhaps the CPS System just needs better teachers.
3/23/2010 09:50:00 AM
Listen old timer, that was back 30 years ago. Nuns used corporal punishment and parents supported teachers. Today is the exact opposite. Parents are never involved and teachers are subject to discipline and law suits for any rule violation. The old days are gone. Now go back to your shuffle board.
Anonymous said...
I have mixed feelinga about the pay and benefits that teachers get. My tax bill shows that over 50% goes for education. Chicago spends more per student then most areas and there is no result for the money. Teachers are paid bette and have a better pension then cops and they do nothing extra without extra compensation. Then, great vacation time, 3.5 months off per year. I am tired of hearing them cry for more or going on strike with a graduation rate of 25%
3/23/2010 03:48:00 PM
You are a complete idiot and cannot spell simple words. Teachers have pay deducted during the school year to receive summer pay. Instead of being paid 10 months the pay is divided into 12 months. They are off 10 weeks during the summer, not 3 months. Many teachers are required to attend school duirng their summer break without pay to maintain accreditation. get your facts stright, asshat.
Where the fuck does all of the money for education go? All of that property tax cash, the lottery cash, federal funds?
Oh, that's right. Luberman needs two cars and some drivers, a PR person and a staff of yes people to help come up with ideas like multi-million dollar "mentor" programs for inner city gang bangers.
Fuck you all.
Are my family, the CPD behind me? Come on...I'll give you guys raises....give the teachers and fireman raises...make this Chicago a great city again. I'm telling it like it is. A cop that is going to run for mayor, it can happen. Look at Jane Byrne and what happened. Stay tuned. I'm just tired and fed up.
3/23/2010 12:44:00 AM
I'll vote for you, Anonymous. Oh, that's right. Never mind.
Judas-goat? That's racist.
"I am just wondering why Mt. Greenwood will have no extra things in school next year. Parents were told that they will have no gym, no art or no music. But the school in Englewood have activities until 9:00 at night.
3/23/2010 01:42:00 PM"
Stop wondering your life away and move to Englewood.
Jesus, what happened with the ILLINOIS STATE LOTTERY money.
Exactly! That was a "save all" when it was established. A casino will probably be the next "save all". Then in another four years something else will be a "save all"
ANYONE BUT DALEY!!!!
hey, where is all that $$$$$$$$ for the olympic bid?
make daley and his family pay it back.
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