Sarcasm is OK
- It's not what he did. It's what a Chicago Police officer said Tuesday night to passengers in a car he pulled over at 25th Albany Avenue on the southwest side.
An exchange between the officer and the passengers has caught the attention of Police Superintendent Jody Weis.
Really? This catches the attention of J-Failure? This? After one of his exempt picks is arrested after almost a week of dithering, another is violating FAA rules with armed airfield incursions, another has dope and guns confiscated on her property, and THIS pops up on his radar? What a joke.
- On the 5-minute recording given to WGN News, the officer tells them, "Normally when someone tells me why did I get pulled over, I tell them 'cause they're (expletive) black."
The driver responded by saying, "That's prejudice though."
The passengers say they view the statement as racial profiling.
We're told the officer was Hispanic. The car occupants were Hispanic. The entire neighborhood is Hispanic. The car was pulled over for window tint. Racial profiling doesn't even enter into the equation. What the officer said isn't germane to the discussion in any terms except professionalism or lack thereof. And the lack thereof? J-Failure clears the officer in his statement:
- In a statement to WGN News, Superintendent Jody Weis said, "The manner in which the officer and subject interacted was unacceptable. Officers are trained and expected to deal with these situations in a professional manner, free of unnecessary sarcasm."
Obviously, this means that if the officer feels that sarcasm was necessary (and there is no rule or order that defines when an officer can or cannot feel that sarcasm be utilized in citizen interactions), then the entire incident must be judged on the officer's interpretation of the necessity of sarcastic, or even caustic, wit. J-Failure was not there, was not trained by the Chicago Police Department, and as a feeb has never been in possession of a sense of humor, let alone an ability to recognize sarcasm.
- The driver and the passengers say they didn't do anything wrong Tuesday night, and do admit they have a a troubled history with police.
And they're using J-Failure and his touchy-feely politically correct exempt staff to do their dirty work. Way to go idiots! You're being played by gangbangers and they're laughing at you while coppers shake their heads. You think this cop and most of the 010th District are going to think twice about pulling over carloads of gangbangers from here on out? Way to have their backs! Warriors!
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
209 Comments:
While certainly there is a limit on what one does or doesn't say if you want to influence people, this incident simply reflects the perception that Weis, Masters and ilk are not part of the solution, they have become part of the problem (if they ever believed otherwise).
One of those Vietnam era comments applies here. When you're up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember that the objective was to drain the swamp. And the more you swat at the alligators instead of getting the swamp drained, the more are attracted to the noise.
Stay safe, your work is appreciated even if Weis and his staff are clueless about who does the real heavy lifting there.
Thats why this stupid fuk just released his new PAX 501 The officers handbook on stops! He needs to read up on the book because he has never been the police.
I hate sarcasm and there is no room for it in a professional organization such as the CPD.
Just last week Twan Doyle and I were discussing this very thing while eating dog at a restaurant in Chinatown. We decided that anyone who uses sarcasm is trying to hide their own feelings of inadequacy. In other words users of sarcasm are "chumbolones".
Right then Penelope Trahanas walked in and we discussed it with her. She agreed then she walked outside and tried to shoot a kitten. Fortunately, she had no weapon and was only carrying a squirt gun.
I know this is going to "bugger belief", but Ron Huberman sauntered over to our table and asked if anyone of us had handcuffs he could borrow because he was going on a "date".
Amazingly Tom Dart and a gaggle of Sheriff's Deputies ran into the restaurant chasing some hookers. The hookers escaped through the kitchen because Tom tripped over the microphone he has surgically implanted in his chest.
Sheriff Dart held a press conference afterward and announced that he awarded three of his officers medals for "hooker suppression". He then posed for photos with a group of female impersonators that were at the restaurant "entertaining" 1/3 of the exempt members of the CPD who were holding a meeting on how to address morale issues in the department.
Another 1/3 of the exempt members were fighting over who got to feed Superintendent Weis's cats and the last 1/3 were furiously searching through their family trees hoping to find hispanic forebearers.
Yeah, that sarcasm thing sucks.
Hey guys, we all have to just lay low while working under this non-police leadership. I would like to say lay low til the storm blows over, but this terrible storm could be here for a long time and when it's gone the department may be decimated. The are so many different rules out there for so many different P.O.'s and ranks. We have a very dangerous group of self interested bosses out there doing whatever they can to move up. Not only do we have to protect ourselves against the street thugs we now have to watch out for the brass too.
has j failure ever done a street stop before? what a fucking joke! wake up coppers! stop working! take the check and do nothing! They are about to fuck another working cop. Here he is what stopping people and creating revenue for the city does and they fuck him.
Wake up people fuck this job and fuck dugan
I act professional to honest hard working citizens. I take no crap from hood rats and the likes of them! You dont want to get pulled over then dont bring attention to yourself. Why should we as Police Officers have to take crap from anybody. What a joke this profesion is becoming. You act nice to some of these mopes and they take it as weakness.
I say this is total BS. They got tickets, one was for no insurance but God forbid if someone thinks the Police are racist.
And they wonder why I started a business and will be leaving with 20 and a day!! Why doesnt our contract catch anybodies eye??
The car load states they didnt do anything wrong? Arent tinted windows against the law?? Or doesnt probable cause apply to certain people?
For Christ sake when will we band together to stick up for ourselves?
Saddened beyond belief.
Giuliani 017
This is going to be dragged out& brought to the forefront to divert Public attention away from Henny-Penny & directed at this Officer.When the nexy exempt or clout clown steps on his dick, IAD will reach in their files & find a sacrifical lamb to sandbag. Classic Daley Cabal Propaganda at work. Keep on making a difference SUCKERS!!
I'm running out of names to describe that pudhead. Talk about misplaced priorities!!!
"Officers are trained and expected to deal with these situations in a professional manner, free of unnecessary sarcasm."
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That's right you Lunkhead Fed!
And since YOU have never received that police training at any level, you are in a piss poor position to even comment on the actions of REAL Police Officers!!!
ASSHAT!
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Someone once told me "its not the job itself thats stressful" "its the people you work for thats the most stressful"
.....evidently sarcasm is NOT okay. Only sarcasm and silliness is for Second City Cop. ( It says so on your header ). Being a cop today is a big pain in the ass. Under the microscope 24/7. In 1990, the bosses told us, don't be afraid of the video cameras, just do your job and be aggressive. In 2010, the bosses tell us WATCH OUT FOR THE CELLPHONES, GUYS, THEY GOT CAMERAS, RECORDING DEVICES AND GOD KNOWS WHAT. DON'T GET JAMMED UP ON ANYTHING. REMEMBER THEY GOT THOSE POD EYES, BIG AND SMALL ALL OVER THE PLACE NOW. DON'T GET JAMMED UP ON ANYTHING. THEY GOT GPS ON THE CARS GUYS. DON'T GET JAMMED UP ON ANYTHING. Bottom line is they might as well have robots for police.
OT....Was detailed to the "war protest" or the "we protest evrything in America" the other day. It amazes me that these dirty, smelly, non-working, clueless, fools get to march down Michigan Ave. during rush hour and business hours creating a traffic mess while also hurting the businesses. City hall has no prob. letting them march, but we can't do it to honor our fallen early in the morning on a Sunday when the businesses are closed and there is no traffic. Just goes to show you how the city feels about us. SAD!!!!
OT: Can you find out which Sergeants got picked for the Northwestern Management school? I'm sure they were the cream of the crop.
He's taking time.
They in fact have quite a background. They are both Latin Kings, he has an Armed Robbery arrest and Agg Battery conviction, and she is convicted of Possession with Intent to Deliver!! Model citizens I say. Why not report that! Also, the driver of the car and the WGN reporter have the SAME last name! How about that!!!
I heard the recording of the incident and read the linked article, and I do not think that the car's occupants were implying that they were being racially profiled. What they said was that the officer's statement is racial profiling. And you know what? They're right, and by couching his ignorance in sarcasm the officer can't hide that fact. During the eight or so hours we work each day, is it really acceptable to joke about an ethnic group as long as no member of that group is present? I think not. Do that crap on your own time.
Our Department is faced with very serious issues so I know we have bigger fish to fry than this officer who thinks he's clever and funny. But I've worked alongside too many blueshirts-and some supervisors-who treat everyone they come in contact with with rudeness and disdain. That wouldn't be so bad for the bangers but I've seen that attitude extend to legitimate crime victims, as well as to lost citizens who have the misfortune to merely ask for directions and are treated like scum.
I'm not a youngster here-I'm halfway to retirement and I do recognize sarcasm has a place on our job. Not every encounter needs to start with it, though. Thanks for allowing me a bit of a rant.
Keep eyes in back of your head open for ASA Blakeley. Anitas pick from the feds. He's chomping at the bit to charge a copper. Word is he wants a headline. Word is he''s a dangerous moron. You are hereby forewarned cpd. Remember the name.
The Mayor and the Supt. have to be politically correct.
Where is the FOP? They need to stand up! This statement was taken out of context!
J-Fuks reaction to this says it all about him and the department's real attitude about having our backs. This is bullshit. Its a reprimand at worst and should be nothing at all.
The lesson to be learned is DON"T STOP ANYBODY. Anyone who does anything above the minimum required is an idiot until this administration including Shortshits is gone.
And the gangbanger and his girlfiend should be charged with Eavesdropping.
it's wgn, what do you expect?
only in the us
Good luck to you Office. Thanks for all you did here. Glad you survived the circus.
3/18/2010 10:11:00 PM
Jesus, you do this all the time. It's O.F.F.I.C.E.R. Not Office as in where someone works. OfficeR.
Ok?
3/19/2010 05:31:00 PM
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It's a term of endearment, goof. If you ever worked the street, you'd 'get it'.
It's clear you're not the revolver police. I'd say you were the spellcheck police, but you're probably not the police at all.
And, I second the sentiment. Enjoy your retirement, Office. (I'm out the door in about six more checks, myself, and it can't come soon enough.)
CAN I GET AN EVENT NUMBER?
Thanks for straightening out the spellcheck police OFFICE.
I/F
Was there any comment made by Jody when this escapade involving Trahanas strted?
Weis and anyone who has snuggled up to him should be hung, drawn and quartered. Im just saying.
Isn't it illegal to tape a conversation in IL without notifiying the person being taped?
Not a cop
Lift the ban on sarcasm!!!
I did not see the report, but there are certain laws (both federal and state) which prevent illegal recording of individuals. There is no problem with video, as long as it is in an area that there is no expectation of privacy. Audio, well that's another story. The officer involved NEEDS to seek the advice of a GOOD lawyer, not the shmucks that the FLOP hires for us.
Depending on what was played, there could be a large payout, not so much from the people recording, but WGN could learn a lesson about publishing.
Zzzzzzzzzzz. I must have missed that story, was that the one between the all "new" Maury who's the daddy DNA special and One Tree Hill season finale?
The lesson to be learned is DON"T STOP ANYBODY. Anyone who does anything above the minimum required is an idiot until this administration including Shortshits is gone.
Whomever wrote this is an idiot...
For Christ sake when will we band together to stick up for ourselves?
Saddened beyond belief.
Giuliani 017
Never. Because people would rather piss and moan about bosses than do anything to actually help themselves. 1/2 the people on this department have had no other job prior to this. what do you expect? these are a bunch of wannabe tough guys who have NO idea what it is to WORK for anything.
This department was ruined by such asinine coppers way before Weis showed up.
But what the hell. Blame Weis. God Forbid we take the wheel in our own career
Ok no more sarcasm. However, from here on out, I'll try to get phone numbers so I can call violaters at home and threaten to get them. I'll rent my spare room to dope dealers, I'll strong arm entertainers for tickets, and bring my pistol to the airport. For this is apparently profesional and acceptable behavior.
It's a term of endearment, goof. If you ever worked the street, you'd 'get it'.
It's clear you're not the revolver police. I'd say you were the spellcheck police, but you're probably not the police at all.
And, I second the sentiment. Enjoy your retirement, Office. (I'm out the door in about six more checks, myself, and it can't come soon enough.)
3/21/2010 05:30:00 AM
I have to agree with the original poster. The dumbing down in this country has to come to an end.
Stop celebrating stupidity and ignorance and be a little more civil to one another. Case in point: why is he a 'goof' because you don't agree with him?
It's not OK to swear and spit all the time. It's not OK to wear your pants hanging down with your butt hanging out. It's not OK not to work any job because it's beneath you.
By the way, it's not a term of endearment. Neither was 'cop'. We may have made it one ourselves, but it's not. Now do you 'get it' sir?
Since when can that tape be admissable when the driver didn't have the officers consent to record him?
Why is anyone even doing a traffic stop & writing tickets for Daley??!
Our Department is faced with very serious issues so I know we have bigger fish to fry than this officer who thinks he's clever and funny. But I've worked alongside too many blueshirts-and some supervisors-who treat everyone they come in contact with with rudeness and disdain. That wouldn't be so bad for the bangers but I've seen that attitude extend to legitimate crime victims, as well as to lost citizens who have the misfortune to merely ask for directions and are treated like scum.
I'm not a youngster here-I'm halfway to retirement and I do recognize sarcasm has a place on our job. Not every encounter needs to start with it, though. Thanks for allowing me a bit of a rant.
3/21/2010 02:23:00 AM
The morale of this story. If they did not make the stop, then they would not have a problem. Why are blue shirts under the microscope and not white shirts or the elite, the exempts? The serious issue you mention is lack of leadership, experiences leadership. I will never drop humor adn the officer did stop "bangers". I bet you always work alone.
how is it possible we have six one man cars on midnights in the 007th dist?the bigger question is why are we sending officers to taser training,active shooter training and search and seizure when we r dangerouly low on manpower!!cant the boss say..we cant do to no manpower??come on lt,acting captain..talk to the commander before one of your troops getskilled!step up and be a leader show u care!!!
Anonymous said...
I heard the recording of the incident and read the linked article, and I do not think that the car's occupants were implying that they were being racially profiled. What they said was that the officer's statement is racial profiling. And you know what? They're right, and by couching his ignorance in sarcasm the officer can't hide that fact. During the eight or so hours we work each day, is it really acceptable to joke about an ethnic group as long as no member of that group is present? I think not. Do that crap on your own time.
Our Department is faced with very serious issues so I know we have bigger fish to fry than this officer who thinks he's clever and funny. But I've worked alongside too many blueshirts-and some supervisors-who treat everyone they come in contact with with rudeness and disdain. That wouldn't be so bad for the bangers but I've seen that attitude extend to legitimate crime victims, as well as to lost citizens who have the misfortune to merely ask for directions and are treated like scum.
I'm not a youngster here-I'm halfway to retirement and I do recognize sarcasm has a place on our job. Not every encounter needs to start with it, though. Thanks for allowing me a bit of a rant.
3/21/2010 02:23:00 AM
I agree. Another problem with the young hair gel police is you guys talk to everyone like they're assholes....whether it's bangers, good citizens, or your coworkers. You use sarcasm and your stupid jokes because you think it's funny, but it's not and neither are you. So many young fucking hardasses feel the job has let them down and yet you've never done shit anyway. Learn to talk to people and maybe you won't have to worry about being on the 9 o'clock news
Sarcasm and humor, there was practicaly a class for them when I went through the academy. This is where a leader can show you he has your back. If we lose humor we have lost everything. Humor and sarcasm are signs of very high intelligence. Our leadership wants brain dead robots.
3/21/2010 12:36:00 AM
lmao
Hey guys, we all have to just lay low while working under this non-police leadership. I would like to say lay low til the storm blows over, but this terrible storm could be here for a long time and when it's gone the department may be decimated...
3/21/2010 12:39:00 AM
Maybe decimated?? We're past the "maybe" part.
Next, no one in the car was black so it should have been obvious that the remark was rude, sarcastic and/or 'uncalled for' but to portray it as a racist remark (intent?) on a national TV news show... gimme a break?
Was it ever addressed why her windows were tinted? Nope.
Was it ever asked how her license ever got suspended by the SOS? No again.
Slow news day, hated for police, friend of WGN staff or just an 'uncalled for' news report.
Go figure.
Stay safe and be careful out there.
3/19/2010 09:20:00 AM
DUDES!!! This is felony eavesdropping! Someone get a warrant on that bitch. I'll fuckin' serve her! Why wasn't he watching the hands??????WTF!
Sorry, the officer was wrong. You don't know if you're being filmed, or taped. Wrong to assume all is well cuz it's a car full of sh..heads. Can't talk to them like the old days, pal. In the old days this would be a non-sustained - not today - not now.
Anonymous said...
I act professional to honest hard working citizens. I take no crap from hood rats and the likes of them! You dont want to get pulled over then dont bring attention to yourself. Why should we as Police Officers have to take crap from anybody. What a joke this profesion is becoming. You act nice to some of these mopes and they take it as weakness.
I say this is total BS. They got tickets, one was for no insurance but God forbid if someone thinks the Police are racist.
And they wonder why I started a business and will be leaving with 20 and a day!! Why doesnt our contract catch anybodies eye??
The car load states they didnt do anything wrong? Arent tinted windows against the law?? Or doesnt probable cause apply to certain people?
For Christ sake when will we band together to stick up for ourselves?
Saddened beyond belief.
Giuliani 017
3/21/2010 12:53:00 AM
Hey Office:
You any relation to Jack Giuliani?
He was a corner copper @ LaSalle/Washington back in the day (1980).
He was a real prince and a true gentleman.
I would not get up on my high horse and tell you U havent mother fucked a shit head on the street. The difference is I wasnt caught on tape doing it. Questioning the shit heads brains, no problems, calling him stupid, no problem. Telling you'll fuck when every you see him, a problem. Think it, dont say it. Telling him you will fuck him in lock up, think it, not say it. Telling him you only do this shit for the overtime, really. Think it, not say it. and finally, thank god the "victim" was hispanic and not black. Racial profilling works. It works in air ports looking for Taliban, and it works in the 016th district when dudes riding 4 deep at 2 am. BUT, you can't say it.Liberals have made ths a PC thing and until we change the system, this is what we get.
J-Feds hands were tied here folks. Copper lost his cool.Period. He's not in call back, he's not stripped. His verbal abuse is a non intervention number. His racial profiling or "race based policing"-suspension. 5 days at most. It's a game and the shit head won. He got under the coppers skin. DOnt let this be you.
This is the first incidnet I think the doucebag on Five has handled with any balls.SCC sorry sarcasim is NOT professional. Funny yes.
Good luck to you Office. Thanks for all you did here. Glad you survived the circus.
3/18/2010 10:11:00 PM
Jesus, you do this all the time. It's O.F.F.I.C.E.R. Not Office as in where someone works. OfficeR.
Ok?
3/19/2010 05:31:00 PM
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It's a term of endearment, goof. If you ever worked the street, you'd 'get it'.
It's clear you're not the revolver police. I'd say you were the spellcheck police, but you're probably not the police at all.
And, I second the sentiment. Enjoy your retirement, Office. (I'm out the door in about six more checks, myself, and it can't come soon enough.)
3/21/2010 05:30:00 AM
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You nailed it office. A term of endearment is absolutely correct. And I third the sentiment.
The fact is that this officer made an unfortunate comment and is stripped and working in callback.
Do you think this officer from 314
will ever want to work again?
Rather than evaluate the offficer on his entire career they will look to separate for a comment.
Meanwhile, Penny is working as a Captain for Jackson (yes the Asst. Superintendent).
There is a two tier system of discipline under this regime. The Feds and Masters despise the CPD because the CPD will never accept them after COZZI.
Stay safe and do the minimal.
If you don't live in the district, don't EVER make another street stop there. That's all. Problem solved.
Remember Bill Cozzi.
Where is the FOP? Why does some blog have to to THE FOP'S job? Why do we pay dues?
I'm a cop, not a robot
Why is anyone still making traffic stops???
Sarcasism? "silly thats just silly!"; you think I would pay this guy 0ver 300.g a year for two positions and then hire another person to take over one of those positions and then hire another guy to watch the first guy so i can have a warning if "they "are looking at me and Da family and sure i let some of "them" become alder persons.(you thought i was going to say men didnt you?)and then i tear up some runway so i can have my park.and then if dooz guys at McCormic stike iz fire dem all..and then the kid now wants Russian lessons? and how come I wasnt invited to operation chicago tailhook? F the Police get my laundry..where was i? oh yes Sarcasism? Thats just silly..
011 Radio bunker LIFM
A guy's riding a motorized unicycle on the expressway with a beer in one hand, smoking a joint with the other, has a baby on his shoulders.
You approach this knucklehead and the first thing out of his mouth is, "Why did you pull me over?!"
I'd like to see our supreme commannder react to this situation day in and day out. Sarcasm is all we have left.
SCC this needs its own thread.
From the Womans Tactical Association:
REGISTRATION AND QUESTIONS:
***Registration is through the Women’s Tactical Association. Please fill out a registration form and mail the payment to Karen Bartuch, Unit 111. outside agencies please email Karen.bartuch@chicagopolice.org for registration information. ***
How come this organization which is not part of the CPD and being run by one of the 4 year wonder brain trust in the Policy Group is having payments sent to headquarters? How come the head of the organization is also using her department email for it?
Inquiring minds want to know
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I will second - or third - or 1000th this sentiment.
This 'topic' deserves it's own continually-rotated-to-the-top thread. This organization - and the Department group the two 'founders' belong to, is ridiculous. Not only does the WTA do the above - but take a look at the website photos. Those look like Department vehicles in the background. Must be nice to use Department resources for personal projects. But then again, if your self-described job assignment is "policy advisor to the Superintendent" I guess you can get away with that.
This officer is 100% wrong. We are suppose to be professional or at least act it. Would you want this officer stopping your mother? You have to act like you are always being recorded. Another idiot who makes us all look bad. No one was ever trained to act this way in a traffic stop. If he was stopping known aholes why throw in the black thing. J-Fed on the other hand needs to know when to keep his mouth shut. Not one word about Henny Peeny, but he's all over this. What he should have said is, "This is being investigated by IPRA and until their investigation is completed it would be inappropriate and imprudent for me to comment." Of course this takes the heat of H.P.
"and there is no rule or order that defines when an officer can or cannot feel that sarcasm be utilized in citizen interact"
I seem to remember something that specifically addresses sarcasm in th orders...
I understand the Department saying what they said for puplic opion, for years even when we did thing right they woundn't back us up. However this one is off base. This guy should have just locked them up and or write them tickets, they are gangbangers. Gangs are into all kinds of criminal activity. What ever happened to searching the car and what kinda interview did this guy conduct telling him about how he sees going to court. From what I heard the officer got down to the gangbanger level. This officer might be a good guy, but he is not a police officer, he acts like the people he should be locking up!
so possum head doesn't like the officer's demeanor, now what are you going to do about it--- the officer stops a car load of gangbangers in a gang infested neighborhood and hands out a few citations--- sounds like police work to me--- police work is often ugly and to the layman it may appear that an officer is out of line--- the officer involved will probably be the first one to tell you that his choice of words was poor--- ok, give him a couple of days and let's move on.....
WHY is our Supt. even commenting on this?
SHOULDN'T OUR DEPUTY
SUPT. OF PATROL have the last word on this incident?
Oh, I forgot, Dugan got served up two weeks ago on 'at issue' by the WEISel.
And he got served up a little later that same week by Aunt B.
So I guess the CPD has effective muzzled 'the axe.'
Well, that's just dandy, isn't it? I guess soon Masters will appear in those ridiculous
CPD training vids and give sound bites to the local news media
(When Crain's takes a break from trying to create a positive reputation for him).
It is against the law to tape record us unless it has video. The next time you suspect someone of recordin you grab the device and arrest them. They can be charged with eavesdropping. And no I am not bullshitting here either look it up. Illinois is a 2party consent state, which means you must have knowledge and agree to have yourself recorded.
Window Tint: 9-76-220(B) $250 fine. not bad for a parking ticket.
It was a stupid statement made by the officer. You already know PPL are sensitive about race. Dumb ass!
What this officer said was unncessary. He thinks he is slick.
Off thread: A Communist takeover of the United States of America will might be complete by the end of Sunday, 21 March 2010 with the passage of a health care bill that will provide health care for every illegal alien, and also provide payment to tear a baby from the mothers womb, all ourtesy of a black nationalist from Chicago's Southside. All persons, and policemen in particular, should attend mass today and pray real hard this doen't happen. It will bankrupt the nation and working families. Pray your disabled child doesn't get sick enough for a doctor to say he or she has outlived there usefulness to this "new" society and any further treatment is denied. Pray the Supreme Court is listening and can undo this travesty if passed. Save yourself-vote republican.
I'm beginning to think that if you were somehow able to peel back that bloated forehead of his you would find a flash drive that uses ANT technology to wirelessly transfer data back and forth between wherever he's at and the fifth floor of City Hall.
---not a cop
Good luck to you Office. Thanks for all you did here. Glad you survived the circus.
3/18/2010 10:11:00 PM
Jesus, you do this all the time. It's O.F.F.I.C.E.R. Not Office as in where someone works. OfficeR.
Ok?
3/19/2010 05:31:00 PM
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It's a term of endearment, goof. If you ever worked the street, you'd 'get it'.
It's clear you're not the revolver police. I'd say you were the spellcheck police, but you're probably not the police at all.
And, I second the sentiment. Enjoy your retirement, Office. (I'm out the door in about six more checks, myself, and it can't come soon enough.)
3/21/2010 05:30:00 AM
You mean like axe, as in I would like to axe you a question. Like that?
JFED just doesn't get it... if he keeps hammering WORKING coppers, a demographic that has all but disappeared, he and Mikey Poo will have to use their awe-inspiring police acumen to deal with criminals on their own this summer... kinda like batman and robin, or, maybe, more like Flea and the Tick....
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Homicide at Central/Irving. Open air drug markets 5000 Blk Henderson. Coppers getting carjacked at Harlem/Higgins. Mini 26th street projects at Addison/Oconto. Coppers houses getting ravaged in "GODS country" Edison Park, while you dummies play police in ghetto districts or cool units. 016 falling faster than you can believe.....
Hey, that KB is kinda hot. What's gonna happen when one of those dollies shoots themselves in the foot?
http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/special_report/20100319-sisterhood-service
The simple answer is verbal judo. The art of tactical communication. Get on board officers! Weiss is trying to help and send a message. We must maintain standards and use proper language. I support his efforts to help us. We are a proud organization and language is part of every officer's duty. We must be professional at all times. God bless the CPD!
Has anyone ever considered the fact that the more you bitch about j-Fed the better Daley likes it?
I mean I read this blog everyday and all I hear is bitchin' about "shortshanks" and "Daley is a f'ing idiot" he is laughing at the aggravation he is causing to us PO's and is laughing at every post.
J-Fed gives a f**k about us. He is putting his $150K a year in the bank and smiling as he does it.
I hate J-Fed as bad as the next guy (Daley just smiled again) and because he does not have our backs and never will.
So f**k you Daley. You'll never again smail because of one of my posts!
Hey F-Fed that's nothing sometimes commanders treat us the same way !
Is it not against the law to record someone in Illinois without their knowledge? The officer should insist on making out a case report and naming the person as an offender. File a civil suit for the pain and suffering he is now suffering.
Anonymous said...
They in fact have quite a background. They are both Latin Kings, he has an Armed Robbery arrest and Agg Battery conviction, and she is convicted of Possession with Intent to Deliver!! Model citizens I say. Why not report that! Also, the driver of the car and the WGN reporter have the SAME last name! How about that!!!
3/21/2010 02:00:00 AM
you are racist.
Ya know, I think 3/21/2010 02:23:00 AM is absolutely correct, There is no room for sarcasm. Hell we didnt get an ounce of sarcasm in the academy!
We were always treated like collegiate letterman. No body swore at us or got in our faces. The academy was very blissful and warm n fuzzy. Nobody ever used foul language or singles us out. I dopnt know where some of us get this sarcasm from.
I dont think the Office did anything wrong. Hell when boo aks me why I pult him ova I say because you black go call ops. They never do. But of course 7 out of 10 have a suspended license no insurance but its our fault right? The best way to avoid this crap is to just answer your calls and thats it.
Where is the FOP? They need to stand up! This statement was taken out of context!
____________________________________
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, now, that was funny. FOP will never stand up for us.
F= Fuk
O= Over
P= Police
Jesus, you do this all the time. It's O.F.F.I.C.E.R. Not Office as in where someone works. OfficeR.
Ok?
3/19/2010 05:31:00 PM
You just showed what you have done on this job..... N.O.T.H.I.N.G.
Anyone who has worked the street gets it.
You also probably wonder why so many people are named "Joe" in the ghetto
WTF....Is this guy even real????
The sound you hear is Al Capone laughing his ass off in hell. We have more pussies at 35th Street than the Humane Society.
I heard the recording of the incident and read the linked article, and I do not think that the car's occupants were implying that they were being racially profiled. What they said was that the officer's statement is racial profiling. And you know what? They're right, and by couching his ignorance in sarcasm the officer can't hide that fact. During the eight or so hours we work each day, is it really acceptable to joke about an ethnic group as long as no member of that group is present? I think not. Do that crap on your own time.
Our Department is faced with very serious issues so I know we have bigger fish to fry than this officer who thinks he's clever and funny. But I've worked alongside too many blueshirts-and some supervisors-who treat everyone they come in contact with with rudeness and disdain. That wouldn't be so bad for the bangers but I've seen that attitude extend to legitimate crime victims, as well as to lost citizens who have the misfortune to merely ask for directions and are treated like scum.
I'm not a youngster here-I'm halfway to retirement and I do recognize sarcasm has a place on our job. Not every encounter needs to start with it, though. Thanks for allowing me a bit of a rant.
3/21/2010 02:23:00 AM
Danger Will Robinson Danger...troll/house mouse alert!
Wow all that time on the job!
You obviously never worked a fast district. Never pulled over a car load of bangers,; never street stopped a thug.
Because when you deal with the shit of society you get some on your shoes. It's not pretty and it stinks but it's an occupational hazzard.
It must be hard being perfect and never steeping in shit!
No one condones sarcasm, but everyone should condone street survival. Sometimes coppers just forget to tone it down.
Next time one of your coworkers is rude or shows disdain to a crime victim, please step up and correct them. If you have the stones.
Does the reporter & the gangbanger have any relations???? Check it out.
When has it been banned to simply "Shoot the s**t" with hardcore gang members who are filling our streets with blood?!The fact that this officer had even bothered to do his job and pull over this vehicle which had tinted windows and a virtual unknown driver should be commended. But pathetically channel nine must have come in last in the ratings and found it necessary to make it headline news.
It seems like every day we hit a new low. If this is a news story in a bare knuckled city like Chicago,I am Len O'Connor.
OT- Obama has found a way to fund all of his socialist programs. He is using Daley's formula of leasing. He is going to lease parts of Nevada and Arizona to the Taliban and Iranians for training. Texas and New Mexico to drug cartels. Honolulu and Las Vegas to the Japanese. Finally Disney World to a coalition of European Pedophiles. These will all be 100 year leases, so our grandchildren will be stuck with these.
Finally some citizens get involved:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/03/police-credit-witnesses-with-help-in-armed-robbery-arrest.html
This coming from a man who has been on one call and ended up getting a CR!
"it's wgn, what do you expect?
3/21/2010 02:54:00 AM"
WGN= Worlds Greatest Newspaper owned by The Tribune Corporation, known for it's staunch conservative viewpoint. Could you clarify "What'd you expect"?
"OT: Can you find out which Sergeants got picked for the Northwestern Management school? I'm sure they were the cream of the crop."
And I'm sure you are one of the disgruntled who did not get picked.
The sense of entitlement some people have on this job is nauseating. I'm sure you feel you are better than anybody who was picked and you will eventually berate them on this blog.
And no, I didn't get picked either. I'll apply again next time. Good luck to those who are attending.
"The cameras are there to help you...."
didn't the car's occupants violate the policeman's rights?? they recorded the conversation without consent/knowledge??
There was a time when the Police were respected and revered as the Blue Knights, the keepers of the Peace and saviors of society. We did the "dirty" work that the rest of the members of our communities could not or would not do. They didn't have the guts or the stomach for it.
Here in Chicago, the pinnacle of our profession probably occurred around the time that Jane Byrne was Mayor. With strong support from Chicago Police Officers, she defeated the machine candidate, Michael Bilandic, in 1979. She also relied HEAVILY on us a year later when the Fire Fighters went on strike. Our reward was the right to unionize our ranks and bring us into a modern era of professional training, pay & benefits and RESPECT.
But then things began to change. To be sure, in many cases, we were our own worst enemy. As technology advanced, more situations of police misconduct began turning up on audio and videotape. The media, in an effort to one-up their competition, discovered that the public LOVED seeing "rogue cops" brought to justice on the 10 o'clock news.
There were "scandals", as well. The Summerdale scandal of 1960 prompted then mayor Richard J. Daley to fire the police chief and go outside the Dept for the first time ever to hire a civilian Superintendent. Eight Officers from the Northside's Summerdale District, (now the Foster Ave, 020th District), were committing burglaries, or identifying targets for a burglary ring, on homes where residents were on vacation and asked the Department to pay "special attention" to the home while they were out of town.
Then came the 1968 National Democratic Convention, where television images of Officers clubbing violent "Yippie" radical protestors were broadcast worldwide in what eventually was characterized as a "police riot".
Subsequent scandals, including the Marquette 10, the 2nd District Tact team drug protection ring, Operation Broken Star, the Jon Burge allegations and shootings of unarmed motorists LaTonya Haggerty and Robert Russ damaged us forever.
Without question, though, the most damage EVER done to our Dept. is the Abbate video of the big drunken Neanderthal bouncing around the petite little female bartender. Show me someone on this planet who hasn't seen that footage and I'll show you someone with no TV!
As the public began to learn that our paychecks were starting to get bigger than theirs, there was resentment. Suddenly, our profession was being painted with the broad brush of corruption.
And now, many in our "leadership", including the Superintendent, are trying to set policy for the department, without EVER having been a police officer themselves.
Its no wonder things are as f*cked up as they are!
I'll admit, I was looking forward to an "outsider" when Jody started.. I was tired of the same ole b.s. However, this clown has no idea at all about ghetto policing-- he makes my stomach turn.
Anonymous said...
Arent tinted windows against the law?? Or doesnt probable cause apply to certain people?
Saddened beyond belief.
Giuliani 017
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NO tinted windows are not against the law.The law was changed last year.
Here's a novel idea, how about the SAO takes a look at the eavesdropping statute and charge these clowns with the felony that they have ADMITTED to committing?
Oh, wait, the defendants are not coppers...never mind -- move along.
When peolple ask me why you pull me over I say "cause I felt like it", is that a no no? Hey J Fuck remember that we need to remind the shit heads that WE RUN THE TRAFFIC STOP NOT THEM!! To any civilians reading this blog, remembetr keep your mouth shut, have your documents ready , and I gaurantee you 99% of the time you will leave with a warning.
35% for both front and rear windows
If you go 30-34% in the rear, you have to do 50% front
If rear windows are tinted below 30%, front windows cannot have tint.
Vehicles equipped with factory rear tint are allowed to have
up to 50% tint for front windows.
The West Side is ripe for jokes & sarcasm.
I wrote a few great jokes about Grape Drink the other day.
They were GOLD, I tell you!
OT Did 7-11 get held up last night at 103 western I drove by at 10 PM and there were at least 10 police cars there, what was going on?
Don't worry they will just make another useless General Order number 2010-4-6565095967943286536513876.146-2!!!!!!
This department is really getting SOFT.....
Isn't this kid in violation of the Eavesdropping statute? I believe that in order to record a conversation all parties must be aware that it is being reoorded.
The fact is however, that statements of this kind, in this day and age when people record lots of things, is just kind of dumb.
Anonymous said...
OT....Was detailed to the "war protest" or the "we protest evrything in America" the other day. It amazes me that these dirty, smelly, non-working, clueless, fools get to march down Michigan Ave. during rush hour and business hours creating a traffic mess while also hurting the businesses. City hall has no prob. letting them march, but we can't do it to honor our fallen early in the morning on a Sunday when the businesses are closed and there is no traffic. Just goes to show you how the city feels about us. SAD!!!!
3/21/2010 01:25:00 AM
its like the movie PCU 'WE'RE NOT GOING TO PROTEST!'
Jesus, you do this all the time. It's O.F.F.I.C.E.R. Not Office as in where someone works. OfficeR.
Ok?
To you Sir,
You must be some Fed, Reporter or Wannabe, trying to pick up some "How to be the Real Police" lingo. Keep reading the manual it's towards the back. To who all who know what "Office" means, probably means you've done your time, let's not share everything... Ok?
Good Luck, Office...
How about some mention of illegal audio recording??
Our Department is faced with very serious issues so I know we have bigger fish to fry than this officer who thinks he's clever and funny. But I've worked alongside too many blueshirts-and some supervisors-who treat everyone they come in contact with with rudeness and disdain. That wouldn't be so bad for the bangers but I've seen that attitude extend to legitimate crime victims, as well as to lost citizens who have the misfortune to merely ask for directions and are treated like scum.
I'm not a youngster here-I'm halfway to retirement and I do recognize sarcasm has a place on our job. Not every encounter needs to start with it, though. Thanks for allowing me a bit of a rant.
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This site is for the police. Don't call it "our" job when you are obviously not the police.
" I Got Your Back"! Yeah Right!
TO: "But I've worked alongside too many blueshirts-and some supervisors-who treat everyone they come in contact with with rudeness and disdain. That wouldn't be so bad for the bangers but I've seen that attitude extend to legitimate crime victims, as well as to lost citizens who have the misfortune to merely ask for directions and are treated like scum.
I'm not a youngster here-I'm halfway to retirement and I do recognize sarcasm has a place on our job. Not every encounter needs to start with it, though. Thanks for allowing me a bit of a rant."
....Well said! We are our own worst enemy and we wonder why EVERYONE (beside the bad guys) are starting to hate us as well. I have seen it and experienced it off duty. Coppers being jagoffs and starting at level 10 from jumpstreet. I am all about opening a can of "verbal whoop ass" when the situation dictates it, but not treating victims and the average joe like crap from the get go.
Off topic, but on a related topic:
(and another open letter to Supt.
Wies, and Chief of Staff Masters)
Just read an interesting article on Job Satisfaction & Organizational Commitment with regard to Law Enforcement Agencies.
The CPD is so far behind this curve, I can't even conceive as to when we will be able to turn this ship around!
According to a 2006 study, 22% of slightly over 80,000 officers surveyed switched agencies at least once; 50% of them did so by 3.8 years of service.
It is predicted that when this recession ends, there will be a mad scramble by private industry to hire the best for the new jobs that will open up in a thriving economy (THIS INCLUDES LEAs!!)
In a book entitled "The 7 Hidden Reasons Employees Leave," author Leigh Branham states that when four basic needs aren't met (TRUST, HOPE, SENSE OF WORTH AND A FEELING OF COMPETENCE), employees begin to disengage. Hasn't this already occurred, and in great numbers, across all 25 Districts?
ARE YOU READING THIS, COMMAND STAFF?
The author goes on to describe 7 other reasons employees leave:
1) unmet job expectations
2)poor job fit
3)lack of constructive feedback
4)lack of professional development/
promotional opportuniites
5)not valued/recognized
6)workplace stress due to job demands, work/personal life imbalance
7)(and most important) LACK OF TRUST AND BELIEF IN SENIOR LEADERSHIP.
The author goes on to say that about 70% of the turnover is VOLUNTARY (is there an onslaught of retirements going on this year?
Did any good people with a good amount of contructive years left bail out of this sinking ship that you know of? How many? Did they tell you why?), and that most of that turnover could have been prevented by an immediate supervisor or manager.
The bottom line: Empathy, communication and TEAMWORK are essential in these budget -tightened times. Does anyone reading this feel that that are part of a TEAM in the CPD? ANYONE?
Command Staff?
People who rated their supervisors as 'superior' stated that they possessed the following traits:
1)Committed to Diversity
2)demonstrated honesty/integrity
3)adapts well to changes
4)articulates organizational goals
5)CARES ABOUT EMPLOYEES.
Anyone reading this should feel free to step in and identify their Commander/Deputy Chief/Chief, Assistant Deputy Supt./Deputy Supt or above who embodies these traits.
SCC, I hope you'll post this. I'd like to see how many of the troops rate their exempts (present or former) as exemplifying these traits. I also hope the Mayor and Weis will actually see this and read it. We've lost a lot of ground in this great organization, but it's never too late to turn things around.
Sarcasm is the language of Shitcago. These swishy cowards think they are in the land of fruits and nuts. I wish they were.
The Officer was just referring to the tinted windows. He usually tells criminals that he pulls over with tinted windows the reason he did it was because the windows are f---ing black. he wasn't referring to their race but to the violation. wink-wink,
Good Luck officer.
Unfortunately when you let your mouth start up before engaging brain sometimes you say stupid stuff like this.
It seems like a minor thing that ought to be handled by the copper's Sgt "reminding" him that what he did was not especially professional. And that should probably be the end of it.
Video and audio recording is everywhere and even minor infractions like this can get blown out of all proportion.
weis-hole would be well served not to harm a hair on that officer's head and to make sure our frustrated dowager empress duggie or the resident alder-fool doesn't bother/impede/obstruct this officer in any way... Especially when he has his hands full with failing to discipline exempts who have done much more grievous harm and brought more disrepute upon the Department than an officer doing his job and giving a mutt a verbal check-up from the neck up.
weis-hole already has an exempt rebellion on his hands... what is he going to do to fuck over the blue-shirt echelon that is already in damn near full revolt? He'll be pissing gasoline at a gunpowder plant fire if he fucks with that officer.
And what is this we hear about the shit-head supposedly having the same last name as the reporter who broke this non-story?
Part of the problem is that people think that their stupid actions and talk should go unchecked by the Police.
There was a time when verbal diarrhea was cured with a hard, fast slap repeated until the diarrhea was cured followed with some tickets and profuse gratitude on the patient's part that an arrest and additional proper & fitting curative action wasn't taken... At the officer's discretion of course. After which the patient took their curative like a man and didn't bitch about it because they KNEW they were WRONG to challenge the Police.
This Department is the equivalent of an ajar coffin on a donkey cart with the decayed, empty-eyed grinning remains of a jack-ass lying abandoned & stinking at the front gates of burr oak... the most infinitely nth degree of fucked-up that we could ever deign to conjure up...
"WGN= Worlds Greatest Newspaper owned by The Tribune Corporation, known for it's staunch conservative viewpoint. Could you clarify "What'd you expect"?
3/21/2010 11:42:00 AM"
now THAT'S some heavy duty sarcasm.
@ 3/21/2010 12:36:00 AM
Brilliant.
"you are racist.
3/21/2010 10:40:00 AM"
I know you are, but what am I?
"J-Fed gives a f**k about us. He is putting his $150K a year in the bank and smiling as he does it.
I hate J-Fed as bad as the next guy (Daley just smiled again) and because he does not have our backs and never will.
So f**k you Daley. You'll never again smail because of one of my posts!
3/21/2010 10:34:00 AM"
your math is a bit off.
OT: I was on J-Fraud's PAX 501 today and some P/O asked if the St. Jude March will be brought back to Michigan Ave. J-Fraud stated that the Gold Star Families want it to be at the Memorial on the lake front. Does anyone know of any Gold Star family member that's ever stated this or do any Gold Star family member care to comment here?
"The simple answer is verbal judo. The art of tactical communication. Get on board officers! Weiss is trying to help and send a message. We must maintain standards and use proper language. I support his efforts to help us. We are a proud organization and language is part of every officer's duty. We must be professional at all times. God bless the CPD!
3/21/2010 10:32:00 AM"
Verbal judo is only effective if those you use it on understand the language you are verbalizing.
Homicide at Central/Irving. Open air drug markets 5000 Blk Henderson. Coppers getting carjacked at Harlem/Higgins. Mini 26th street projects at Addison/Oconto. Coppers houses getting ravaged in "GODS country" Edison Park, while you dummies play police in ghetto districts or cool units. 016 falling faster than you can believe.....
3/21/2010 10:22:00 AM
"GODS country" is Edison Park? Please. Like the Indian, I'm crying.
OT
Homicide at Central/Irving. Open air drug markets 5000 Blk Henderson. Coppers getting carjacked at Harlem/Higgins. Mini 26th street projects at Addison/Oconto. Coppers houses getting ravaged in "GODS country" Edison Park, while you dummies play police in ghetto districts or cool units. 016 falling faster than you can believe.....
Isn't that the truth. IF you don't pack off duty, you're in for a wake up call one day.
First day of the academy they told us don't let this job change who you are. I'm a sarcastic person by nature.
So fuck you jody.
- fellow 010 copper
The simple answer is verbal judo. The art of tactical communication. Get on board officers! Weiss is trying to help and send a message. We must maintain standards and use proper language. I support his efforts to help us. We are a proud organization and language is part of every officer's duty. We must be professional at all times. God bless the CPD!
3/21/2010 10:32:00 AM
This must be sarcasm.
Anonymous said...
When peolple ask me why you pull me over I say "cause I felt like it", is that a no no? Hey J Fuck remember that we need to remind the shit heads that WE RUN THE TRAFFIC STOP NOT THEM!! To any civilians reading this blog, remembetr keep your mouth shut, have your documents ready , and I gaurantee you 99% of the time you will leave with a warning.
3/21/2010 01:11:00 PM
Yes sir! I can agree with this 100%, at least in Chicago and usually with the State Police as well. I'm not a cop but have friends who are.
Dome light on, window down, car off, hands on wheel. "Good evening sir." "My paperwork is in my glove compartment, do you mind if I reach for it? It's cluttered, I might have to dig for it."
Small courtesies go a LONG way. Some cops are assholes who have it out for you but I've found these are the exception not the rule (and are usually in the suburbs on traffic making revenue for the Man).
I'm an AA male, live in 008 and work with ISP. I am not a cop. I don't get stopped. Years ago I was in City Hall on biz and a cop said "hello sweetheart". Maybe it was sacasm but I took no offense b/c of the way he said it, with a smile and his timing was perfect.. PS: Still trying to get 2 dope houses boarded up on La Crosse. Guess I'll have to call yet another Cmdr. Congrats Cmdr K.
latanya haggerty, ok but robert russ--- not---- going the wrong way on the ryan at high speeds and grabbing for an officer's gun will get you killed.... the copper involved was and is a soft ball but their is no way you can equate latanya haggerty with the robert russ incident.... in my opinion the pacman shit in 015 was the biggest kick in the balls to the police department in the last twenty years followed by abbatte.....
I agree. Another problem with the young hair gel police is you guys talk to everyone like they're assholes....whether it's bangers, good citizens, or your coworkers. You use sarcasm and your stupid jokes because you think it's funny, but it's not and neither are you. So many young fucking hardasses feel the job has let them down and yet you've never done shit anyway. Learn to talk to people and maybe you won't have to worry about being on the 9 o'clock news
3/21/2010 07:53:00 AM
Gee, do you know what contradicting means? Because that's what you're doing. I wonder where "hair gel" police learned from? Maybe it's people like you who berate new police officers instead of helping them.
Get off your high horse jerk off.
You are part of the problem, not the solution.
Jesus, you do this all the time. It's O.F.F.I.C.E.R. Not Office as in where someone works. OfficeR.
Ok?
3/19/2010 05:31:00 PM
Never worked the ghetto, did you boy?
Anonymous said...
Thats why this stupid fuk just released his new PAX 501 The officers handbook on stops! He needs to read up on the book because he has never been the police.
3/21/2010 12:36:00 AM
I used the little book they passed out at roll call to stop the non-functioning computer in my shit beat car from rattling. I doubled it up and wedged it under the bent edge of the computer mount. I also have a non-functioning camera in my beat car to go along with the non-functioning computer.
You remember the in-car camera I am ordered to use. Every shift I report the state of non-functionality of my camera along with the problem number and the non-functioning state of my computer.
My beat car now has over 117 thousand miles on it.
I so don't give a fuck it is hard to properly put into words. The co-called citizens now argue with me openly when I try to give a moving violation for running a red light or speeding 20 miles over. They are now so accustomed to never being stopped that they feel outraged when they get stopped and are faced with getting a ticket for something they do every day.
This place is a fucking mess and is only getting worse. The only saving grace is that I am KMA, just trying to hold out another two years, but if I can't good fucking riddance to this place.
Definition (625 ILCS 5/12-503):
“A person owning and operating a motor vehicle, who is determined by a physician licensed to practice medicine and is afflicted with or suffers from medical disease including but not limited by systemic or discoid lupus erythematosus, disseminated superficial actinic porokeratosis or albinism, which would require that person to be shielded from the direct rays of the sun is entitled to operate said vehicle with tinted windows. This exception also applies to a vehicle used in transporting a person when the person resides at the same address as the registered owner and the person is afflicted with or suffering from a qualifying medical condition”. However, no exemption from the requirements of subsection (a-5) shall be granted for any condition, such as light sensitivity, for which protection from the direct rays of the sun can be adequately obtained by the use of sunglasses or other eye protective devices.
No person shall drive a motor vehicle with any sign, poster, window application, reflective material, non-reflective material or tinted film upon the front windshield, except that a non-reflective tinted film may be used along the uppermost portion of the windshield if such material does not extend more than 6 inches down from the top of the windshield.
(a-5) No window treatment or tinting shall be applied to the windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver, except:
(1) On vehicles where none of the windows to the rear of the driver's seat are treated in a manner that allows less than 30% light transmittance, a non-reflective tinted film that allows at least 50% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by any law enforcement official metering the light transmittance, may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver.
(2) On vehicles where none of the windows to the rear of the driver's seat are treated in a manner that allows less than 35% light transmittance, a non-reflective tinted film that allows at least 35% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by any law enforcement official metering the light transmittance, may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver.
(3) On multipurpose passenger vehicles, as defined by Section 1-148.3b of this Code, a non-reflective tinted film originally applied by the manufacturer, that allows at least 50% light transmittance, with a 5% variance observed by any law enforcement official metering the light transmittance, may be used on the side windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver.
(b) On motor vehicles where window treatment has not been applied to the windows immediately adjacent to each side of the driver, the use of a non-reflective, smoked or tinted glass, non-reflective film, perforated window screen or other decorative window application on windows to the rear of the driver's seat shall be allowed, except that any motor vehicle with a window to the rear of the driver's seat treated in this manner shall be equipped with a side mirror on each side of the motor vehicle which are in conformance with Section 12-502.
Didn't everyone see the legal bulletin on tinted windows? What's going on here?
I can'y believe all the softball comments on this string today. First, what fucking knucklehead got his panties in a bunch because coppers were refering to each other as office. If you have more than 4.3 seconds on this job, you know what "office" is and generally address your peers as such. Secondly, if you want to hang this copper out to dry for a sarcastic comment leave this job immediately and get a job where you have no interaction with other people. You are an idiot, have no sense of humor and must have the personality of drywall. This is another media manipulation of public perception and if you are buying into it then you are as soft as puppyshit. It is sarcastic humor and if our triumphant leader J-Failure had ever been a cop, a nurse, a teacher, a mechanic, ANYTHING that would have led him to interact with non-robotic people he would realize that sarcastic humor far more times than not either deflates the situation or projects to the subject THAT YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BACKOFF, RETREAT OR RUN AWAY. I particularly am disgusted with the way J-Fraud not only immediately commented on this, but has yet to comment on the Penny Trahanas arrest. Your tenure here cannot come to an end soon enough and whatever few believers you have may you forever have a brick on you after he leaves, you are all truly scabs.
O/T
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the the 3/21/2010 10:40:00 AM poster. The truth hurts, and that is the TRUTH! I may be racist but you are an ASSHAT!
OT: http://www.suntimes.com/news/24-7/2114732,south-side-two-shot-032110.article
Has to be more than one family can bear.
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
...........
And, I second the sentiment. Enjoy your retirement, Office. (I'm out the door in about six more checks, myself, and it can't come soon enough.)
3/21/2010 05:30:00 AM
You mean like axe, as in I would like to axe you a question. Like that?
3/21/2010 10:12:00 AM
Where you "fittin" to retire?
I'm not a youngster here-I'm halfway to retirement and I do recognize sarcasm has a place on our job. Not every encounter needs to start with it, though. Thanks for allowing me a bit of a rant.
3/21/2010 02:23:00 AM
I agree. 100% and this guy posted it. Imagine that
...And, I second the sentiment. Enjoy your retirement, Office. (I'm out the door in about six more checks, myself, and it can't come soon enough.)
3/21/2010 05:30:00 AM
Not only not the wheel gun police, but never worked a district where that moniker is used.
But I agree with you, most likely a troll.
And this is what can happen on a simple traffic stop, Mr. Weis. You wonder why we have a bit of a jaded attitude?
"BALTIMORE (March 21) - Two police officers who had pulled over a suspicious vehicle were shot and wounded by the driver, and the suspect was killed when the officers returned fire, Baltimore police said Sunday.
Police Commissioner Frederick H. Bealefeld III said the officers will survive and are expected to undergo surgery at the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center. One officer was shot in the right cheek, while the other was shot in the hand. A third officer also shot at the suspect."
"it's wgn, what do you expect?
3/21/2010 02:54:00 AM"
WGN= Worlds Greatest Newspaper owned by The Tribune Corporation, known for it's staunch conservative viewpoint. Could you clarify "What'd you expect"?
The Tribune Companies...
Owned by one of the biggest POS to walk the Earth.
Sam Zell
Douche nozzle extraordinaire.
Anonymous said...
Arent tinted windows against the law?? Or doesnt probable cause apply to certain people?
Saddened beyond belief.
Giuliani 017
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NO tinted windows are not against the law.The law was changed last year.
3/21/2010 12:56:00 PM
Tints are still illegal in the city of Chicago. The state law was changed but the MCC(9-76-220(B)) stands as long as the car is registered to a Chicago address. One of the problems is to many people post comments and don't know s**t.
"By the way, it's not a term of endearment. Neither was 'cop'. We may have made it one ourselves, but it's not. Now do you 'get it' sir?"
Hey dork, you don't get it. It was the still employed officer telling the retireing officer, good luck. It in fact was ghetto-police being funny.
No stay off the blog!
And now, many in our "leadership"
Great post, yet you left out something important the caliber of new hires in the last 10-years is lacking. Truth be told the real police are in the minority. Read these post tell me this behavior is normal. sad
OTS: ERIC LEES BROTHER WAS KILLED ON SUNDAY MORNING WALKING HOME FROM HIS BIRTHDAY PARTY HIS FRIEND THREW FOR HIM. HE DIDN'T DRIVE BECAUSE HE WAS DRINKING AND DOING THE RIGHT THING. HE WOULD OF TURNED 33 ON MONDAY MR. LEE TOLD ME. THEY NOW HAVE LOST 2 SONS. JUST SAY A LITTLE PRAYER FOR THEM. I JUST CAN NOT IMAGINE WHAT THEY ARE GOING THRU. IF POSSIABLE WHEN THE ARRANGEMENTS ARE MADE TRY TO STOP BY, THEY NEED OUR SUPPORT NOW MORE THAN EVER.
God I hate this place!
you all need to wake the f-up and stop doing shit! answer your calls and back others up, thats all you need to do!
Sarcasm is lovely in the right situation. But not on a traffic stop, ever. You guys want to get sued?!!!! Respectful language at all times unless the person stopped is verbally combative. And even then, no name calling. No references.
Laughing so hard at second post I actually pissed myself stone sober for a change. Thanks whoever wrote that!
I understand that they have to put a certain politically correct face for the media and the public but if they fuck this copper I will stop doing any work.
I believe that there is an IL statute that prevents unauthorized audio recording of an individual without their knowledge/consent.
I agree. Another problem with the young hair gel police is you guys talk to everyone like they're assholes....whether it's bangers, good citizens, or your coworkers. You use sarcasm and your stupid jokes because you think it's funny, but it's not and neither are you. So many young fucking hardasses feel the job has let them down and yet you've never done shit anyway. Learn to talk to people and maybe you won't have to worry about being on the 9 o'clock news
3/21/2010 07:53:00 AM
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You must have been pulled over for tinted windows too! Way to go siding with the gang-bangers.
I do not agree with the notion that the citizens can talk crap and we just take it. I pay more of MY salary to me then most of the citizens I come in contact with thanks to the ridiculous real estate taxes.
I treat a citizen verbally the way he/she treats me, except I give them one chance to modify their tone of voice if they start out being sarcastic, rude, or discourteous. I ask them if they would be upset if I spoke to them in the same manner they are speaking to me? If that doesn't get them to rethink the control over their words and tone, then fuck them!
NO JUDGE WOULD ALLOW SARCASTIC TALK IN HIS COURTROOM, ESPECIALLY DIRECTED AT THE JUDGE! He would give the individual a warning or two and if no change in a tone of voice the judge will take action, or say some "unprofessional" remarks.
If you don't want to meet the police, then don't do anything that will attract the attention of the police to you.
Manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower,manpower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No the answer is not verbal judo. The answer is if you make a traffic stop on a car full of shitbirds, for officer safety reasons, every occupant of that car is brought out at gunpoint, proned out, and handcuffed on the ground until the traffic stop is over. That way, you can be sure that they will not be operating ANYTHING with their hands, not a weapon, and not a tape recorder.
Yes it is illegal to tape a conversation in Illinois unless you are notified that you are notified that you are being taped. There are a few expections , but I dont think they apply to this incident.
But fear not, the IAd will use the tape as evidence and proceed against the copper.
I know because a gang banging Loevy and Loevy hiring mut taped a couple of us doing our jobs. NOt doing anything wrong but with tapes you can manipulate them by editing . Hmmm now theres a novel idea-manipulating a tape or a video even!
Thank God the Police Board saw right thru the lying garbage and the inept IAD investiagtion and ruled in favor the the working policemen!
The witch-hunts continue brothers and sisters.
Its very sad to see especially after bosses come out in the media and say that they want commanders and officers to take those risks ie: search warrants, stops,etc.. in order to make our city a safer place.
Many of the coppers would love to do that if they knew their backs were covered instead of being thrown to the wolves.
This department is really getting SOFT.....
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Getting? Partner were there....
Remember Cozzi
Fuk J failure
Fuk Masters
And now, many in our "leadership", including the Superintendent, are trying to set policy for the department, without EVER having been a police officer themselves.
Its no wonder things are as f*cked up as they are!
3/21/2010 12:40:00 PM
Great job
While we are on the topic of racism I would like to point out that all of the recent command promotions were hispanic. The fact that the city has not previously promoted enough hispanics should not effect what they do today. To do so is only playing catch-up and discriminating against people of other ethnicities.
LISTEN... THERE WAS A TIME ON THIS JOB WHERE GUYS USED TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGES OR KIDS TUITIONS BY MAKING TRAFFIC STOPS... NEVER LEGAL, BUT CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR... AND EVERYONE JUST LOOKED AWAY... THEN DEPARTMENT FINALLY SAID, WE WILL PAY YOU BETTER WAGES BUT THE BS HAS TOO STOP.. THE GUYS THAT WERE "OLD SCHOOL" and didn't want to change, found out they were dinosaurs... in recent years, the public, society and the department, has mandated we use professional language.. those of you that want to be "OLD SCHOOL" are going to find themselves in same situation, your a dinosaur... if you don't agree, become of fireman or some other job... stupid is as stupid does... was easy situation to avoid...
Tinted windows ARE NOT legal to everyone in illinois. In order to have tinted windows, one MUST have a prescription from a physician. If the car is allowed by the state to have tinted windows, the car has to have special plates which always end with WT (WINDOWS TINTED). Also, if you look at the parker books, you can issue a citation if the vehicle is parked or the vehicle is moving.
This is gonna have a lot of copycats trying to weasel out of tickets or jamb up coppers by attempting the same shit. Watch it. Let your pen do the bitch-slapping.
I can't see any reason why working coppers would even want to keep working nowadays.
Treat people with respect until you realize that they don't deserve your respect. Protect yourself and your partner. Back other cars up. Know the laws and hammer those that deserve it.
Anonymous said...
"...in my opinion the pacman shit in 015 was the biggest kick in the balls to the police department in the last twenty years followed by abbatte..."
3/21/2010 06:27:00 PM
Not to the TV viewing public, its not!
There is absolutely ZERO video that ever was aired by the media on Operation Broken Star.
The unwashed masses need to see the video or its just another story. The Abatte video gets shown every few weeks or so, in case maybe there are some newborns out there who haven't seen it yet!
does this apply?http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/illinois.html
Sarcasm is lovely in the right situation. But not on a traffic stop, ever. You guys want to get sued?!!!! Respectful language at all times unless the person stopped is verbally combative. And even then, no name calling. No references.
3/21/2010 09:54:00 PM
You think you're going to get sued for being sarcastic? You're stupid and a pussy.
Setting: anywhere in area 1, 2, 4 and other sites throughout the city...
A old, rusty, smoke sputtering, rim wearing box Chevy. Lone male occupant, peering over the hood of the car at the pavement, squinting to see the road only 5 feet in front of the car. (not down the road to look for potential hazards)
A temporary 3 months expired, a 1992 Chicago City sticker, and a Chicagofest bumper sticker, Cracked windshield, tints, (YOU GOTTA HAVE TINTS) the solid scent puck, to hide the blunt smell, tow number written in yellow crayon on the window, a notice of vehicle impoundment on the dash, a parking ticket crumpled up in the back seat next to the baby seat that isn't even strapped in...
Anybody else run into something like this? Maybe it's just me.
Would you believe the driver actually had a driver's license, insurance and the registration...
it's just the license was revoked, the insurance for a different car and expired and the registration wasn't in anyone's name the driver knew.
The driver asked me, "What are you pulling me over for?"
I answered, "Oh nothing serious, just that blue and white car you rubbed back there making that turn, was my Sergeant's car."
Damn, I won't mention I forgot the traffic stop card until the ticket was kicked back. Well you guessed it, I must have been racially profiling.
Yes it is illegal to tape a conversation in Illinois unless you are notified that you are notified that you are being taped. There are a few expections , but I dont think they apply to this incident.
But fear not, the IAd will use the tape as evidence and proceed against the copper.
I know because a gang banging Loevy and Loevy hiring mut taped a couple of us doing our jobs. NOt doing anything wrong but with tapes you can manipulate them by editing . Hmmm now theres a novel idea-manipulating a tape or a video even!
Thank God the Police Board saw right thru the lying garbage and the inept IAD investiagtion and ruled in favor the the working policemen!
The witch-hunts continue brothers and sisters.
Its very sad to see especially after bosses come out in the media and say that they want commanders and officers to take those risks ie: search warrants, stops,etc.. in order to make our city a safer place.
Many of the coppers would love to do that if they knew their backs were covered instead of being thrown to the wolves.
3/21/2010 11:40:00 PM
Can't believe you're still sticking to that story. You got caught and were lucky enough to have a shitload of clout to get you out of it. "Edited" the tapes...? How about a little personal responsibility for what you did, PJ?
"By the way, it's not a term of endearment. Neither was 'cop'. We may have made it one ourselves, but it's not. Now do you 'get it' sir?"
Hey dork, you don't get it. It was the still employed officer telling the retireing officer, good luck. It in fact was ghetto-police being funny.
No stay off the blog!
3/21/2010 08:42:00 PM
Read it slower. It's for the 5:30 A.M. poster. Sometimes that helps people like you. Or ask a friend for help. Read the part about being polite twice, please.
Do not tell people what you are thinking.
No the answer is not verbal judo. The answer is if you make a traffic stop on a car full of shitbirds, for officer safety reasons, every occupant of that car is brought out at gunpoint, proned out, and handcuffed on the ground until the traffic stop is over. That way, you can be sure that they will not be operating ANYTHING with their hands, not a weapon, and not a tape recorder.
3/21/2010 11:25:00 PM
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Absolutely right.
The biggest issue here was the loss of control on a traffic stop. The one scenario where the copper absolutely must have total control.
No license means cuffs on, occupants secured, and car/occupants searched. That needs to be the routine every time, all the time.
In for a penny, in for a pound. Once you commit to do a traffic stop, do it all the way, every time.
Traffic stops are inherently dangerous because most times the copper has no idea what the target is doing or has done.
see HB 3325 on www.ilga.gov; or, google "Illinois window tint law"....you might be surprised...
SCC this needs its own thread.
From the Womans Tactical Association:
REGISTRATION AND QUESTIONS:
***Registration is through the Women’s Tactical Association. Please fill out a registration form and mail the payment to Karen Bartuch, Unit 111. outside agencies please email Karen.bartuch@chicagopolice.org for registration information. ***
How come this organization which is not part of the CPD and being run by one of the 4 year wonder brain trust in the Policy Group is having payments sent to headquarters? How come the head of the organization is also using her department email for it?
Inquiring minds want to know
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I will second - or third - or 1000th this sentiment.
This 'topic' deserves it's own continually-rotated-to-the-top thread. This organization - and the Department group the two 'founders' belong to, is ridiculous. Not only does the WTA do the above - but take a look at the website photos. Those look like Department vehicles in the background. Must be nice to use Department resources for personal projects. But then again, if your self-described job assignment is "policy advisor to the Superintendent" I guess you can get away with that.
3/21/2010 09:27:00 AM
Wow, you both need to get a hobby. First of all, the WTA is a department organization just like any other, i.e. Emerald Society, LAPA, any of the sports teams, etc. It is not limited to just females on CPD, as anyone can join. Yes, there are male members of the WTA and these males have attended training sessions.
And yes, some of these training sessions have taken place at the academy or other CPD run training sites, so I suppose you could say that department resources were used. But just because you see a department vehicle in the background of a photo does not mean that the vehicle was used! I just love seeing people try to connect dots in a way that creates a conspiracy when none exists.
Using a dept email and having mail relating to a dept run organization sent to a unit is not improper.
The jealousy and backstabbing on this department is ridiculous. Get over yourselves.
Recording devices are not allowed unless all being recorded consent. But a camera is excluded so if you use your cell phone camera as a video , is this excluded from the taping law? Just asking
A lot of bad comments directed to someone who used the term, "office" . I was the wheel gun police coming on in '68. And, yes, I heard that term frequently by just about every rank when addressing other police officers. I am sure there are a lot of other terms that were common, but not used today, such as "your tin" meaning your star or " yellow paper".
an issue with sarcasm...I see no beef in this case, but, many times, the guys start to treat every citizen, every motorist, the same (i.e., shitty); they seem to have lost the ability to differentiate between the real thugs and the average citizen...
So I guess I can't tell someone, "Have a nice day!" after I guve them a ticket?
What happened to the boss in Pittsburg when he took photo's of an arrestee in public view and had his detail as background to the photo. Did J-Fed make a comment ? Just a bad joke, I guess but no punishment to the boss.
Reminds of the time, I forgot who or where it was said, but the said used the word "nigardly" (which means stingy) - the blacks went nuts - and I am pretty sure the guy was removed or fired EVEN STILL -
ANd our command staff expects us top go out and catch bad guys after IAD and company throws people under the bus constantly?
LISTEN... THERE WAS A TIME ON THIS JOB WHERE GUYS USED TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGES OR KIDS TUITIONS BY MAKING TRAFFIC STOPS... NEVER LEGAL, BUT CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR... AND EVERYONE JUST LOOKED AWAY... THEN DEPARTMENT FINALLY SAID, WE WILL PAY YOU BETTER WAGES BUT THE BS HAS TOO STOP.. THE GUYS THAT WERE "OLD SCHOOL" and didn't want to change, found out they were dinosaurs... in recent years, the public, society and the department, has mandated we use professional language.. those of you that want to be "OLD SCHOOL" are going to find themselves in same situation, your a dinosaur... if you don't agree, become of fireman or some other job... stupid is as stupid does... was easy situation to avoid...
3/21/2010 11:53:00 PM
Sorry, I don't totally agree. I agree we should strive to be professional, but the truth is we live and work in a vulgar society. Its natural that some of us are gonna use foul language in a foul world. Personally I find it a way to express myself when used during certain situations. This may not have been one of those situations, but that doesn't mean we have to take up that attitude, "if you can't be professional all the time then quit"
3/21/2010 09:27:00 AM
Wow, you both need to get a hobby. First of all, the WTA is a department organization just like any other, i.e. Emerald Society, LAPA, any of the sports teams, etc. It is not limited to just females on CPD, as anyone can join. Yes, there are male members of the WTA and these males have attended training sessions.
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Look here Mr. or Mrs. Wet Behind the Ears, LAPA and the Emerald society and sports teams are not Department Organizations. Nor is the WTA. These organizations are allowed to exist and call for members amongst the CPD, but they are not part of the Department. I can't say, hold me down squad, I'm heading to an Emerald Society meeting. No activities conducted by any of these organizations should be conducted on company time. Not my rule.
Anonymous said...
I do not agree with the notion that the citizens can talk crap and we just take it. I pay more of MY salary to me then most of the citizens I come in contact with thanks to the ridiculous real estate taxes.
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You pay ALL of your salary. Taxes don't go towards police budget. Ticket revenue does. We have generated our own revenue for years.
Anonymous said...
Good luck to you Office. Thanks for all you did here. Glad you survived the circus.
3/18/2010 10:11:00 PM
Jesus, you do this all the time. It's O.F.F.I.C.E.R. Not Office as in where someone works. OfficeR.
Ok?
3/19/2010 05:31:00 PM
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It's a term of endearment, goof. If you ever worked the street, you'd 'get it'.
It's clear you're not the revolver police. I'd say you were the spellcheck police, but you're probably not the police at all.
And, I second the sentiment. Enjoy your retirement, Office. (I'm out the door in about six more checks, myself, and it can't come soon enough.)
3/21/2010 05:30:00 AM
Good luck to you too Office. As for the disgruntled poster - you use your colloquialisms and us old-times will use ours.
Ok?!
I have read about, and known PO's killed on traffic stops...One Officer John C. Knight comes to mind.
A few weeks ago a Lt. in AZ, just outside Phoenix, got his brains blown out on a T-Stop and the fuckers got into a long chase in the mountains, all the while firing on the Police, even to the end.
Bottom Line-Do Not forget your basic Academy training, and most important-What you have learned over your years of experience.
Go Home Safe to those you love, and to those who want to throw us under the bus for sarcasm- be damned.
Throw all of the Widows of KIA PO's under the bus while you're at it Possum-Head..... You are a Nit Wit.
Anonymous said...
OT: I was on J-Fraud's PAX 501 today and some P/O asked if the St. Jude March will be brought back to Michigan Ave. J-Fraud stated that the Gold Star Families want it to be at the Memorial on the lake front. Does anyone know of any Gold Star family member that's ever stated this or do any Gold Star family member care to comment here?
3/21/2010 05:45:00 PM
After they used our money to build the memorial and name it after themselves, they want to use the parade to garner more support (also known as cash) for the memorial 'administration fees'. We get used six ways to sunday.
A lot of bad comments directed to someone who used the term, "office" . I was the wheel gun police coming on in '68. And, yes, I heard that term frequently by just about every rank when addressing other police officers. I am sure there are a lot of other terms that were common, but not used today, such as "your tin" meaning your star or " yellow paper".
3/22/2010 11:44:00 AM
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Don't forget 'open drawer policy', callbox key and teletype machine. And, the late, lamented 'watch party'.
LISTEN... THERE WAS A TIME ON THIS JOB WHERE GUYS USED TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGES OR KIDS TUITIONS BY MAKING TRAFFIC STOPS... NEVER LEGAL, BUT CERTAINLY ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR... AND EVERYONE JUST LOOKED AWAY... THEN DEPARTMENT FINALLY SAID, WE WILL PAY YOU BETTER WAGES BUT THE BS HAS TOO STOP.. THE GUYS THAT WERE "OLD SCHOOL" and didn't want to change, found out they were dinosaurs... in recent years, the public, society and the department, has mandated we use professional language.. those of you that want to be "OLD SCHOOL" are going to find themselves in same situation, your a dinosaur... if you don't agree, become of fireman or some other job... stupid is as stupid does... was easy situation to avoid...
3/21/2010 11:53:00 PM
.......yea, the 004th District in the 70's.
And yes, some of these training sessions have taken place at the academy or other CPD run training sites, so I suppose you could say that department resources were used. But just because you see a department vehicle in the background of a photo does not mean that the vehicle was used!
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Since when does the CPD have an outdoor firing range for carbines? Do tell. How the f*ck did the car get there, did it drive its self there like Herbie?
I'm a white shirt (Lt) and can't get out on the street enough because of bullshit from HQ, the Area, and Front Office. (Unless I'm '90 that day-Very Rare). I am not even 1/3rd of the copper I once was. I was not a superstar,got a few awards, did my job-that's it.
If I get a chance to hit the streets, and make a traffic stop-That's pretty much what I tell them.
I'm a white shirt,not a blue shirt that's out on the street pounding everyday, and what you did, or what you're driving, caused me to stop you.
90% of the time it's "Sorry Sarge...Sir...Office". The other 10 % the Traffic Car willingly takes over.
Be Very Careful On All Stops.
3/21/2010 09:27:00 AM
Wow, you both need to get a hobby. First of all, the WTA is a department organization just like any other, i.e. Emerald Society, LAPA, any of the sports teams, etc. It is not limited to just females on CPD, as anyone can join. Yes, there are male members of the WTA and these males have attended training sessions.
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Look here Mr. or Mrs. Wet Behind the Ears, LAPA and the Emerald society and sports teams are not Department Organizations. Nor is the WTA. These organizations are allowed to exist and call for members amongst the CPD, but they are not part of the Department. I can't say, hold me down squad, I'm heading to an Emerald Society meeting. No activities conducted by any of these organizations should be conducted on company time. Not my rule.
3/22/2010 05:20:00 PM
And I'm still waiting for you to prove or even allege that any of the activities by the WTA have been conducted on company time. Sure, you don't get on the air and say "hold me down at xxx (Emerald Society meeting, Pipes and Drums, baseball practice) but you sure as hell are entitled to take a lunch somewhere. So you can be there for half an hour. Or, you can take time. Or, if you have a decent sgt, let him or her know where you are going to be if you work close by.
And if you are still hung up on the email and mail...I can check my dept email from home or blackberry while not on the clock. So mail is sent to a person at their unit, so what?
The WTA happens to offer training opportunities for people within the department in which you can take part and yes, be carried if your commander so chooses. I fail to see why this is a bad thing, or even against dept policy. Going to a range, being afforded opportunties to learn from world renound leaders/teachers?
Bottom line, it just sounds like you are sour. Old and sour. I'll happily be called wet behind the ears by someone like you.
Hey you FBI Pussy. Police Officers have to deal with straight up shit heads face to face on a daily basis unlike you tools in the federal building who sit back and watch from afar until you feel like making contact. So forgive us if we get smart with some idiot who is giving us a hard time for trying to do our job.
And I'm still waiting for you to prove or even allege that any of the activities by the WTA have been conducted on company time. Sure, you don't get on the air and say "hold me down at xxx (Emerald Society meeting, Pipes and Drums, baseball practice) but you sure as hell are entitled to take a lunch somewhere. So you can be there for half an hour. Or, you can take time. Or, if you have a decent sgt, let him or her know where you are going to be if you work close by.
And if you are still hung up on the email and mail...I can check my dept email from home or blackberry while not on the clock. So mail is sent to a person at their unit, so what?
The WTA happens to offer training opportunities for people within the department in which you can take part and yes, be carried if your commander so chooses. I fail to see why this is a bad thing, or even against dept policy. Going to a range, being afforded opportunties to learn from world renound leaders/teachers?
Bottom line, it just sounds like you are sour. Old and sour. I'll happily be called wet behind the ears by someone like you.
3/22/2010 08:56:00 PM
signed,
the policey group
Bottom line, it just sounds like you are sour. Old and sour. I'll happily be called wet behind the ears by someone like you.
3/22/2010 08:56:00 PM
My friends call me "lemon drop"
DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG???? Are we missing the part of the recording when the "suspect" admitted to vehicular violations but wanted to know what "he" did? DUMBASS!! your vehicle is not legal and your driving skills need to be improved, you broke the law!! Ask a stupid question get a smart ass answer. Screw em.
3/21/2010 05:30:00 AM
You mean like axe, as in I would like to axe you a question. Like that?
3/21/2010 10:12:00 AM
GET OVER IT!.Yes we call eachother "OFFICE" you will note it is an OFFICE..THE OFFICE of THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT you are an OFFICE(R) of the court.THATS why you say OFFICE(R) in court. Dumbass.
Christ you sound like an overly anal retentive college GEEK that works the DESK most of the time or spends inordinate amounts of time UNDER the Commanders Desk.
Whew! Staved off THAT rant.........
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A lot of bad comments directed to someone who used the term, "office" . I was the wheel gun police coming on in '68. And, yes, I heard that term frequently by just about every rank when addressing other police officers. I am sure there are a lot of other terms that were common, but not used today, such as "your tin" meaning your star or " yellow paper".
3/22/2010 11:44:00 AM
a. Da Boss(When Sgts had balls)
b. Da Button (if i need to explain)
c. "Tracks" (Captain
d. "half track" (lieutenant)
e. "IGOR" (lockup keeper)
f. "number one" (the DC)
g. "Author" PO that writes more
than 6 lines in a narrative
h. "Warhorse" Multiple meanings
1. Old school cop
2. Paddy wagon outfitted for
HEAVY duty(aka RDU)
3. Actual Horse(mounted unit)
i. OFFICE: Term of endearment
directed towards fellow
officers.
j. Slick Boy: Tact teams
k. Deep Slick: Undercover, Deep.
l. Rat: Self explanatory
m. Judge: Multiple
a. Old man in black robe
b. Back in the day,the senior
PO on the scene that decided
if the offender got an ass beat
down prior to going in.
c. An expensive gun.
n. Gat,Roscoe,thumper,banger,BOOM BOOM,heater,heat: Weaponry of the CPD
o. The 50 Cent Ride:
Tossed in the back of the wagon
Wagon goes airborne over rail
road tracks with goof in the
back. AKA: Emergency Brake
Check,Partition Integrity
Check.
p. The Hole: Spot to hide.AKA:
under the radar,cloaked,off the
grid.
q. White Glove Event: Police
Funeral.
r. Irish Tears: Multiple meanings
a. 'Amazing Grace' on the
bag pipes.(Im welling now)
b. Tears shed in private over
the loss of a Fellow.(with your
partners hand on your shoulder)
s. Married : Long time partnership
t. Balls Out: High speed chase
(huh? whats a CHASE joey?)
u. Outfuckingstanding: Phrase uttered by warhorses when a "kid" makes an unusually good arrest.
v. Bones: Street Credibility.Or numerous arrests and convictions.
w. "Brother": Originally OFFENSIVE,
Now used to acknowledge fellow
Officers.
x. Freedom(and baby freedom)
Furlough
y. "Stretched" Getting yanked into the DC office to get your ass reamed.
z. THE END: Retirement.
Thanks for shaking a few of the 'old ones' out of the closet Brother.
Mini 26th street projects at Addison/Oconto.
3/21/2010 10:22:00 AM
Hook me up! Id LOVE to come out of retirement.And Ill bring my crew.
Hell YEAH!
Anonymous uuuuuuuuuuuuright said...
Sarcasm is the language of Shitcago. These swishy cowards think they are in the land of fruits and nuts. I wish they were.
3/21/2010 04:45:00 PM
HEY they got ENOUGH problems in 023 dont ADD to it....(sarcasm/on)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm an AA male, live in 008 and work with ISP. I am not a cop. I don't get stopped. Years ago I was in City Hall on biz and a cop said "hello sweetheart". Maybe it was sacasm but I took no offense b/c of the way he said it, with a smile and his timing was perfect.. PS: Still trying to get 2 dope houses boarded up on La Crosse. Guess I'll have to call yet another Cmdr. Congrats Cmdr K.
3/21/2010 06:25:00 PM
I can help you with that,Office.
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