Bug Lights
More brilliance from the mind of J-Fled:
- New rule from J-FLED. Starting today, vehicle emergency lights must be on during every call and stop. He wants to create the illusion we are everywhere, even though we are shorthanded. This idiot is without a lick of street sense. He is creating targets, not solving problems.
We see three reasons for this:
- The illusion we're everywhere: the notice posted in the CO Book even says "perception." This is ridiculous. It's becoming rapidly apparent that the "perception" has no basis in reality and our ability to affect crime and disorder is an illusion.
- The cameras: evidently, beat cars aren't generating enough digital recordings of events. The camera goes on when the lights go on. When you arrive and shut off the lights, the event is bookmarked and when uploaded, clears out the cache of anything afterward. By leaving the lights on, the camera keeps running.
- J-Fled is supposedly working the streets again: by having the lights on, he can see where the nearest squad car is in case he needs to run away and hide from someone shooting.
In any event, there are dozens of reasons this is a dumb idea, first being that the blue lights act like bug lights - they attract every pest within walking distance of knowing exactly where the police are. We were trained long ago that the lights go off unless needed for traffic safety, otherwise too many idiots wander up to see what's going on and officer safety comes into play.
It's a poorly worded directive, but typical of downtown, house-mouse thinking.
It's a poorly worded directive, but typical of downtown, house-mouse thinking.
Labels: dumb ideas, from the comments
posted by SCC at 12:34 AM
188 Comments:
My activity is going to be 2% of my total activity for last year.
100 Parker = 2 Parkers 2010
25 Movers = 1 Mover 2010
100 Arrests = 2 Arrests 2010
I will increase 2% each year until 2012.
GET THE POINT LADIES AND GENTS!!!
SCC: You said: "It's a poorly worded directive, but typical of downtown, house-mouse thinking." You're 100% percent on target with this one. If a copper goes to a domestic and turns the lights on, it'll turn into an "Asshole Attractor". Next thing you know, the crowd forms and a 10-1 is next. What a stupid idea.
Emergency equipment causes drivers to panic thus causing traffic accidents.
I'm going to tell the citizens to sue the city if they get into or cause an accident trying to get out of my way if it's not an EMERGENCY but my EMERGENCY lights are activated.
Fuck you, Daley.
J-Fled-stop trying to play police.
Masters, well, Masters.
He has no idea of what happens on the street. Many times, especially during the warmer weather it is advisable not to draw a crowd by having the lights on Being the center of attraction isn't what you want to be when there is a crowd of drunks just chillin
Well how about driving around, day or night, with hi-beams, takedown lights (front, left, AND right) both spotlights, MARS lights, siren, and screaming "Together We Can!" over the PA... I bet the citizens of beat 1711 will or anywhere in 016 will just love that at 0300.
This IS the winner of the "Most Outrageously Stupid" idea to come out of 35th street in a long time.
I for am not turning on the lights under these circumstances. I have had far too many experiences of them attracting more problems. These goofy subjects' families just gravitate to the blue lights looking for a fight to pick. In the dark, everyone looks out windows to see what's happening. So now instead of dealing with one or two crazy subjects, the buildings empty out.
Right! Turn the blue lights on for every stop and call.
I really want to meet the fuckhead who came up with this idea. I bet that idiot has no more than 3 or 4 years in a beat car his/her career.
ASSHAT!!!
I said this in response to the orginal poster, but it bears repeating.
If you must have your lights on, be extremely careful. You will attract every drunk and every ADD driver out there. The lights mesmerize them and they drift right toward you.
My dad's friend lost both legs above the knees because he got caught between a parked car's trunk and a moving car's front bumper.
Don't stand behind your squad. Don't stand between your squad and the offending vehicle. Don't stand in traffic.
Once again, they would rather endanger us than hire enough police.
CAPS: Creating A Perception, Stupid.
Bug lights, SCC? Great description!
Now if only they were zapper-lights. Is that too much to ask?
This has been tried before by some other idiot before J-Fled got here, it was found that it CAUSED TRAFFIC ACCIDENT.
Wear a YELLOW RIBBON AT ST. JUDE'S.
Jody, I think you should be serving the mayor his banana milkshake at his Michigan estate that day.
the solution is simple......DON'T stop anybody
nope... absolutly not supt weis. I will not turn my lights on when im on a street stop. that is stupid and dangerous. every idiot in the ghetto sees lights and wants to come up to the car and when its thier play cousin all hell breaks loose and the car gets surrounded and people are gonna get hurt. If you think its over the top its happened to me.. about 4 or 5 years ago at homan and polk... we had hit our lights to get around a few cars to grab three guys standing infront of the spot. well, we forgot to shut the lights off while going through them and it was like a waterfall... two people came out on the porch, then another house, then down to the sidewalk, then the cell phones came out then more and more and more and in typical fashion 10-1 gets called because bricks and bottles started flying resulted with our windshield getting bricked. Never ever again will I forget to shut my lights off on a street stop.. supt weis, if I have to get gigged for it by an inspector I will fight it to the end.. and if I have to take time then I will because im not goin through that crap again.. DO NOT MAKE THIS A DIRECTIVE!!! who is coming up with this stuff??? is it that policy group of yours?? why dont you get some street savy cops on this group who know what to do on the street!! to the younger coppers out there...dont follow this order!!! your safety is much more important.
f.o.p. better step up, i'm not going to be a target!! fuck that.
I was at a retirement party last night as were some members of the sergeants association. Needless to say, they had a smurk on their faces. That being said, they were not surprised by the arbitrators ruling, but stated it was a win for the sergeants association. It's a win because they feel the sergeants association and the city will NOT go to arbitration. They feel the sergeants will receive the 16% originally offered by the city. Also they have been looking for that D2A seperation and this arbitrators ruling virtually guarantees that if they get the 16%. The city wants to divide and conquer and so be it, thats what will happen. Not saying it's a good thing, but the sergeants will come out on top in this situation.
Remember the sergeants were the only people who DID NOT endorse that march around city hall.
4/17/2010 12:35:00 PM
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First, a hell of a lot of sergeants marched that day and most of us were very unhappy that our union did not publicly back the march. We weren't consulted; they just gave a statement that they weren't in it.
Second, we are the one 'white-shirt' union that refused to accept what Daley was serving up, and we voted it down in a HUGE way.
I don't know which planet you live on, but it must be a very paranoid one, that you think all the 'sergeant-types' were smirking at you at last night's event, or that you think we expect to 'come out on top' in OUR contract.
We expect to get nothing more than what you got. If we're getting, or even asking for, more, no one's sharing that info with the union membership.
I'd be glad to get something YOU, the LTS and the CAPTAINS did get. We don't have the 55 and out medical. So just please take your hostility and paranoia somewhere else.
They read this so I won't give them any useful ideas being I don't get paid for them. NUTS!
Not a new idea. Way back it was the rule to keep the mars lights on on holidays. Net effect? All the lights burned out!
Moron bosses then and moron bosses now!
Then later after that rule died of it's own stupidity a new rule calling for the mars lights to be on during all traffic stops. Snipers ended that rule.
If J-Fled wants to increase the "perception" of police on the street why doesn't he drive a MARKED car? Scared J-Fled?
Imagine Masters or Mrs. Brust in MARked cars. Wimpering and wetting their pants.
WHY dont the police, get their union and kick the fed out? and promote from within. I bet if the cops 100% take a night off, Dick will get the hint. Imagine EVERY cop taking off, and Dick hearing their voices, and cowering in fear, because he has police guards. I think the CPD is scared to speak their voice. They dont realize what they can do, but calling in sick.......
so does this mean that we have to unholster weapon and point it at vic and order them to the ground in a vain attempt to make passerby think that we are locking someone up--- scc, you may have hit the nail right on the head--- coppers are to smart to fall for the company line and will try to subvert the cameras anyway they can--- they are their to help loevy and loevy, not the police--- by the way, how does loevy and loevy always find out about all the police misconduct allegations--- could it be someone in the corp counsels office or ipra giving them a heads up--- do they get 10 percent of any damages awarded in litigation--- sounds like it might be a little unethical but in a crooked cesspool of a sanctuary city anything goes....
You are mentioned in this article, SCC:
Police Chief In The Crosshairs With Contract In Final Year
Here is the link:
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/police-chief-in-the-crosshairs-with-contract-in-final-year/#more-1999
It really is amazing how well known this BLOG has become. Thanks for all the hard work.
Chuck Ramsey did this in DC. I don't know what the results were or if he did it in Philly.
The goals of urban policing are definitely shifting. Get on board this train or shift to a different mode of transport.
O.W. Wilson did the same thing.
Do Not Follow This Directive!!!! Officer safety comes first. J-FLED, once again, hasn't a clue about real police work. Use your lights when needed only. We will band together to fight any attempt at disciplinary action for refusing to become even greater targets. As they say in the ghetto, "THIS DON'T MAKE NO SENSE".
When do we get our retro check? And which update is correct on fivefrank.com?
CAN I GET ANOTHER EVENT NUMBER?
Lately, the bad guys have been so bold as to fire at the police responding to calls that the bad guys have made. Leaving the lights on just makes the police a better target. In some Central and South American countries controlled by dictators, I have observed police in pick up trucks driving routine patrols with their lights on day and night. Where was it J-Fled just went on vacation?
This guy is completly outta touch, YOU FAIL PPO. Keep your hands off the lights and i'll let you know when you can hit the siren. He's never been on a stop in the hood obviously. Big time officer saftey issue. leave them lights alone. This guy needs to repeat his 2nd cycle.
In Nam the Brass flew in Choppers and stayed in airconditioned trailers too while grunts slugged it out
We are lead by the non-police and the under 6 years on the job policy group that is influenced by Ray Ray the swat guy whos total military experience was in the resvs over 10 yrs ago. These people are out of touch and dont have a clue and will get Cops killed and hurt.
Any street cop worth his salt who has ever worked in a ghetto neighborhood knows that you don't turn on the lights because it is, indeed, an attraction for the hood rats who don't work and have nothing better to do that participate in street drama when the Po-Po arrives to quell their savagery.
Yet another example of J-Fled and his merry band of inexperienced nerds coming up with moronic theories on how to run a big city police department.
Lessons were learned over the years that were passed down from seasoned cops to new cops. These feds are learning them as they go because they are too arrogant to ask the lowly beat cop what the deal is.
Instead, they rely on their total lack of experience and a few political suck asses who couldn't find a crime in Cabrini to come up with these asinine theories that any rookie with six months of street time in the jets could have told them was worthless.
Jim MAURER will be interviewed on WBBM-TV Channel 2 during the 10 PM newscast tomorrow (Monday) night.
Hey J-Fled. I've got news for you. The public already knows we're understaffed. It's been on the news for quite some time now. Did you notice the hood rats saying that it takes the police a long time to get to their bullshit calls?
You really think that turning on the lights makes it look like there's more of us out there?
Please report, with your staff of fools, to the drug testing station with a full bladder. You fucks are on something and we want to know what the hell it is.
You cannot activate the mic's for street stops, curfews, truants and they turn on when the camera is activated. Traffic Stops ONLY!
We don't want to be sued for violating someone's civil rights!
It becomes a safety issue when you have to fidget with the mic to turn it off when you might possibly be driving into a bunch of shit. You can see that our safety is not a top priority to the department.
Read the state law about when to activate emergency equipment. Street stops, burglar alarm jobs, school absentees do not fit into the equation.
I'm not breaking the law :)
Bug lights? More like bug-out lights when they're on J-Fled's vehicle.
Gotta run!
You also must have your lights on during lunches and personals!
Aim the car accordingly.
I've got your backs.
while where on a job it could be a case of the scene where ur at gets shot up (retaliation)lights don't stop crime. Cmon what a joke...anyway moving along.
Fuck this CHICKEN SHIT IDIOT and his clueless policy group.I'm not turning on any lights unless I feel I need to.
I/F KMA and FUCK YOU!
Easy enough, DO NOT DO IT!
If, and I use the word IF, if you do a street stop on dude on the block, leave the lights off.
When the good SGT or the Inspector comes by you tell them that it happened too quickly, and that you had to jump out, right away, to take police action. (Again, IF you are going to be doing that sort of thing)
As far as leaving the lights on at calls, just say that your battery died from doing this before. Does not matter if you have a pool car with 100,000 miles on it or a new Tahoe, nobody will question you about something like this. Have you seen the people that work on the cars? Enough said right there.
Bottom line, just do not comply. Use the lights only when YOU feel like YOU need to use them - JFled, Policy Group, and anyone that believes in this new crime fighting strategy (ie:suck holes) be dammed.
I recall, more than a few years ago. Thank God, it was on a Sunday! During a blinding blizzard, there was an all call ordering all vehicles on the street to immediately and until further notice, activate their emergency equiptment for greater visibility! An hour or so later, that was rescinded and all units were reminded to use extreme caution in their travels due to the weather conditions. Seems that the good citizens who had to be on the street in that weather were actually crashing when they tried to get out of the way. It too was a great plan.
Lights on for all calls? I have never heard of anything so stupid. It seems that everyday some new "stupidity" arises from either 35th street or City Hall.
I am so disgusted with the way this department has turned out. When I was a recruit I thought that when I had 25 years seniority the dept would be so advanced and state-of-the-art that it would be hard to leave this job. I thought the city would continue to take care of those that protect it.
Wrong on all counts.
Didn't we go through this already last year and it was recinded within a few days? All the same arguments, we are alerting those taking part in a crime in progress to our arrival, whther it be a burglar or a domestic offender. Or how about providing extra light for a potential sniper to take his shot? Didn't this just happen a few days ago in 004 or 003? Fuck J-Fled, ignore the order. If an inspector writes you up defend yourself on paper.
Fuck HIM!
Don't tell me how to be the Police when J-Fled was NEVER the Police!
I'll do my job as I see fit!
So fuck you and your "smoke and mirrors" show!
Da Pelon
It reminds me of the time that Townsend ordered all marked cars to turn on the blue lights during a blizzard. All the cars pulled from the main tire ruts on the streets to the unplowed area on the side of the road and got stuck.
"Bug lights"
Exactly, SCC!
How many times have we seen where someone usually a drunk hits a squad car that has stopped on the highway handling a traffic accident.
When I was on the job I usually suggested to the officers that when they have things under control and it is nothing more than a property damage collision to have the participants move their vehicles off of the highway on to a nearby exit to complete the report, etc, and then the officers should turn off their overheads.
But anyway, J-fled has never been a cop.
I don't ever recall Ephraim zimbalist parking his FBI car in front of a domestic call location only to discover that half the neighborhood is outside gawking or interferring with things like happens when coppers leave their overheads on.
Guys/Gals....face it....he just doesnt know what to do.Now that Masters has to play "the real police"...neither him nor the Supt. really know what to do....they have no idea how to stop the violence cause they ARE NOT FROM HERE...AND ARE NOT ONE OF US!! does anyone out there remember an old timer who was in 002...that used to tell new ppo's?...''welcome to hell muthafucka''.....well....welome Masters(clueless,kid)....and welcome j-fed.
Leaving the lights on will kill the batteries in the Tahoes. They are already overloaded with electronic$. Add the a/c, and the whole fuckin' fleet will be down on the first hot day.
Disaster awaits. Don't get stuck in the 'hood.
"Lights! Action! Camera!" Hollywood's commands.
CPD, Skip the "Action" Command, just turn on your lights and cameras, and wait for the official review of your every action.
Sigh!
To 4/17/2010 12:35:00 PM
I think someone was bullshitting you and you ate it up.
Also, you must have not been at the march around city hall last year or you would have seen "members of the sergeants association".
Thanks Ray Ray and the asshat policy group for the BS. Just stick to party planner for the speaker series.
My activity is going to be 2% of my total activity for last year.
100 Parker = 2 Parkers 2010
25 Movers = 1 Mover 2010
100 Arrests = 2 Arrests 2010
I will increase 2% each year until 2012.
GET THE POINT LADIES AND GENTS!!!
4/18/2010 12:46:00 AM
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Pace yourself, those numbers seem a little high to me.
These cars are NOT equipped to handle having the lights on all of the time, let alone run anything else like my 12 year old computer!
Squad, Hold me down!
I have to get an R-man to get me a new battery for my 145,000 mile squad car!
ILL TAKE THE SPAR!
I HATE WHEN UR ON A TRAFFIC STOP AND THE WALKING DEAD SURROUND U.
BUT U SEE J-FLED NEVER DOES A TRAFFIC STOP WITHOUT HIS ENTOURAGE OF TEN PEOPLE.
AND I WONT SHOOT AT CARS TOO!
WHAT A BOOB WORRYING ABOUT LIGHTS AND NOT ABOUT R SAFETY.
ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT HIS IMAGE
AND DA MAYORS.
GO BACK TO HIDING AND LET UR CABAL MAKE UP NEW RULES THEY HAVENT SEEN THE STREETS SINCE THE DAY OF THE CALL BOX.
NO OFFENSE
Here's an idea? Turn on the lights like dumb-shit wants. I mean all the way! Siren blasting all watches, but obey all traffic control devices. Wake up the whole fucking city! Maybe the sirens will drown out the audio recording?
Let the accidents occur, and they will! Then all cars will be down on traffic accidents The whining citizens will be furious! Gridlocked traffic, late CTA busses. I will make sure I block a lane of traffic during my "stops, Service calls, etc".
Then I'll go in an hour early to upload my video, because I surely don't want to get in trouble for not uploading video.
In two days of this nonsense all hard drives will be filled to capacity and no longer able to store video! Then we'll get that call from the desk Sgt. "have 24 come in to see the camera man" yet another downed car right?
J-Fled you are so fucking stupid you couldn't pour piss out a boot if the directions were on the sole!
SUA SPONTE
Just like every News Years Eve when we had intelligent bosses. The first word out of their mouths on first watch would be keep your mars lights off, they were a perfect target for every drunken idiot to shoot at. But like I said that's when we had bosses who were intelligent and knew the streets. From the top down. Now the bosses are just worried about keeping their exempt ranks and spots. Many know this is a half assed idea, but they aren't going against J-Fled. They'd rather see coppers get hurt then speak up or warn you about this crazy order. This department doesn't have your back. Smoke and mirrors to the max. Shortshanks, J-Fled, the exempts and the watch commanders can give a shit less about you. They just care about themselves. Are there any bosses left with any balls enough to speak up or worry about the safety of the troops. Fuck this city. Worry about yourself, your family and each other. Nobody else will. The bosses worry about themselves and nobody else. The blue shirts have to come together for once, unite and stay united. The time for worrying about not getting a certain spot are over. Time for all to just watch each others backs, Do paper and handle the jobs, nothing else. When they see the revenue drop thru the toilet maybe they will finally do something, instead of fucking us over every chance they get. FLOP ain't going to help. This is up to us. If everyone comes together for 2-3 periods, it will definately get their attention. For those who don't want to lose their watch, car or assignment, if everyone does the same, things will change. As long as you go out and bust your ass they have us by the balls. Quit kissing ass. Even if you bust your ass, the first time you just make one mistake, they will throw you under the bus. You see how everyone cares about us. Give them nothing.
Remember Joe Airhart and Richard Francis and Bill Cozzi.
VOTE
This must mean that jody is trading in his UNmarked SUV for marked SUV.
The entire command staff should have marked cars. After all, we do want to create the perception of police everywhere.
Or is this another example of leading from the back?
Check out this excerpt from "Police Chief in the Crosshairs With Contract In Final Year" in the Chicago News Cooperative by James O'Shea, the former managing editor of the Chicago Tribune.
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When Mr. Weis, who has been given the nickname J-Fed by some officers, went to Englewood to hold a news conference on April 2, a shooting occurred a few blocks away as he was speaking to reporters. When Mr. Weis decided to return to headquarters instead of going to the scene of the shooting, John Northen, a retired Chicago police sergeant, publicly accused him of cowardice, and a police blogger started referring to him as "J-Fled".
"The scene had been secured," Mr. Weis said. "The victims had already been taken to the hospital; the officers are there talking to witnesses and trying to develop some possible leads. I think if I show up there, I take them away from their work."
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J-FLED was only 45 seconds away from 6948 S. Paulina St.; 007 did not arrive until NINE (9) minutes after the fatal shooting of Reginald MYERS. Check the Channel 2 video of the "GOTTA RUN" COWARD. There was only one shooting victim (NOT victims, you lying coward.
UNSOLVED HOMICIDE, R.D. No. HS-238292.
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Source: www.ChicagoNewsCoop.org
Wear a YELLOW RIBBON AT ST. JUDE'S.
Sorry, say what you want but I will not be there.
CHECK THE MONEY BOX
HERE's MY ALTERNATIVE
Activate your Blue Lights...
...when you slowly drive past OUR Police Memorial between 2359 hrs., 30 April and 2359 hrs. 1 May, when our Honor Guard will do a 24 vigil in front of our memorial east of Soldier Field.
They will march in military fashion on behalf of ALL our members who made that "Ultimate Sacrifice" over the years.
(My opinion) Every district/unit should officially send 'at least one car' per shift to represent them in this "Silent Salute" to honor our fallen.
Unofficially, I would hope that this drive-by "Thin Blue Line" remains steady and serves as a reminder to all of us of our duty to look out for our own.
Any bosses out there willing to make a call on this to salute Chicago's Finest and honor out fallen?
Just sayin'
I will leave my lights on when at my lunch location only.
Northen's charge of COWARDICE against "GOTTA RUN" WEISel made the New York Times. It was written by James O'Shea, the former managing editor of the Tribune.
"RIDE TO THE SOUND OF THE GUNS"
An old cavalry axiom............
J-Fled's version.................
Holy shit, someone is shooting, let's get outta here. Take me to the nearest safe gyms so I can flex!!!!
The true disaster is what this directive represents more than what it says.
The Chicago Police Department is no longer trying to catch criminals.
It only hopes to chase them away.
Cowardness is no longer just a character trait of the Superintendent. Cowardness is now the established policy of the Chicago Police Department.
It's over. It's all over. This is bottom.
Apparently J- Frauds lights are on, but nobodys home.
I have this to say in regards to the unfair "Residency Requirement":
Chicago needs to wake up and realize the police dept is vanishing. Over the next five (most certainly ten) years almost everyone over the rank of Lt will retire. The city can not hire or retain the number of officers they need now much less over the next few years at the rate they are going.
When you offer a person a job where you work Christmas, Thanksgiving, 4th of July, nights, weekends, spend your off days in court, put up with an unbelievable amount of crap, don't get raises (or shitty raises per our recent contract), are stuck as a patrolman most of your career or your entire career, and are told where you can live guess what? No one takes the job and the few that do catch on quick that every city is hurting for police and they can take their experience elsewhere.
I really think the dept has reached the tipping point where it will be impossible to hire and retain enough officers over the next five years to even maintain the staffing numbers that exist now, much less end up with more officers.
Complaining is a big part of police work I guess, but what I am talking about is just math. Experienced patrolman are resigning every week after realizing they will never be promoted even once in their lives and/or being desparate to get out of the city. They really don't have a choice. They can't keep working here.
The promotion process is a crying shame. It really doesn't exist. Since the testing companies the city use now won't "play ball" with them about who scored the highest on the promotional exam, promotions have just stopped. If the city can't just promote who they want to, test scores be damned, they have made up their mind to promote no one.
The people that are being hired for the most part should not be. In years past every year one policeman got a DUI and one police got arrested for DV. Now we have Federal indictments several times a year. It is unbelievable.
The dept is in very sad shape overall and unless there are promotions and decent raises experienced guys will keep resigning. The residency requirement is a throat cutter as far as hiring. People will not accept the city's terms for employment period.
The city refuses to face the facts and thinks they can force people to take the job I guess. Maybe they will institute a draft. If you live in Chicago and are between 21 and 25 you could be compelled to serve.
Somebody needs to count how many police there are now, figure how many people will DROP over the next few years, subtract average attrition, and see how many people need to be hired to keep up. I don't think it can be done under current policies.
There's a large story in today's New York Times on J-Fed. And it mentions that the "blog" now (post-cowardice display) refers to him as "J-Fled."
Very quickly this will dilute the public's perception that we are actually on an emergency call. In theory, with the backlog becoming a constant, all cars should have their lights activated all the time. Eventually, no one will even react to them; as if they do now! I used to drive in 011 at night just with headlights on, and I'd drive like an asshole, to a hot call. People would get out of the way, self preservation is very strong amoungst a sea of bad drivers. You turn on those blue lights and people drove like no one noticed them. Here's an experiment, in the hours of daylight turn on your MARS light and see how many pull over as you casually drive around, or tell you that you left them on. I bet you could drive around for quite awhile before you'd notice any drivers reacting to the blue. Downtown is just grasping at straws. So, Supe., look in Phil Cline's playbook under "Gangs, Guns, and Drugs" it's time to do massive presence and shut down the dope spots. Then they'll get the message and will police themselves to stop shooting. Remember, it's all about the MONEY!
If I leave the lights on with my piece of shit Impala I will be calling for R-Service by the second or third job.
I have been told about the 2-page story "Despite Progress, Police Chief Still Struggles" which appears in Section 1, p. 27 of THE NEW YORK TIMES..
I have stated my case against J-FLED. I refuse to give any more statements to the media. I have eMailed WIND-AM 560 and cancelled tomorrow morning's radio interview.
GOTTA RUN!
FYI - Camera is always on if you log in to the system. Disk will hold around 24hrs of video as you drive around doing nothing. Soon it will be on when you start the engine. Beware.
They train us that we are and "authorized emergency vehicle" only when responding to a job where a real emergency exists. This means when there is an urgency to get there to protect life or property. This new order will only get people hurt, and probably jammed up if they get into a crash with the lights on. The crash review board gets to determine if you were right or wrong in ALL cases where any emergency equipment is activated. This includes lights only. They will be given the tapes of the job you were dispatched to. That's the rules they have made. Be warned.
Anonymous said...
while where on a job it could be a case of the scene where ur at gets shot up (retaliation)lights don't stop crime. Cmon what a joke...anyway moving along.
4/18/2010 08:26:00 AM
Go back to bed...lol
reality - we work 10-99 on 1st and 3rd watch and jled has pencil pushers making police officer pay working at headquarters , review , caps office , watching the front gate at homan square and police headquarters . If private security
can protect OEMC , why not other facilities including city hall.
jfled fyi 10-99 is a 1 man unit
Off topic but if FIVE FRANK is reading this I have a Question about your retro calculator.. Do you factor the check from our last pay rate or what it was in 2007... example. If at the end of the contract I was only at my first pay rate of 55900 then began all of my step raises after the contract expired are all of those changes in pay rates throughout that time adjusted with your calculator to come up with this number.. because since the last contract 30 jun 2007 I recieved a step raise at 15 august 2007, 15 august 2008, 15 august 2009.. does your calculator factor in all of the different pay raises I was at or does it just go off of my latest monthly rate?? all of this is very confusing.
Why should the police help give the perception of anything? There should be more police and cars out there. They want to use the police to give the perception when its the police that are at risk! Give me a fucking break!
John Northen
You walk on water. Check out today's NY Times, page 27. It even mentions Bill Cozzi.
FIRE COWARDS!
FREE BILL COZZI!
Please don't mention the A/C in the Tahoes...otherwise a new directive will come out ordering us to go without A/C in order to save energy for the lights...
Last night, you brain children at 35th street, the blue lights of CPD, at fucking fire scene, yes, a fire scene almost started a confrontation with these mutts!
And they had to be on because of we were doing traffic control! How much more of a problem will those blue lights be when I don't have to turn them on?
You exempts ARE nitwits and have been way too long out of a beat car, if in fact you ever worked one.
ASSHATS!
Turning on the fkn lights for everything is like moths flyin into a fire!
Northside,
I apologize for calling you the CPD's answer to Don Quixote. You and coward J-Fled made the 1st section of the NEW YORK TIMES.
I'm not doing shit anymore. This job is ridiculous.
J-FLED = COWARD
Your story made the big time, Northen. Check out the NY Times web site about J-Fled, the COWARD.
My activity is going to be 2% of my total activity for last year.
100 Parker = 2 Parkers 2010
25 Movers = 1 Mover 2010
100 Arrests = 2 Arrests 2010
I will increase 2% each year until 2012.
GET THE POINT LADIES AND GENTS!!!
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Good idea, but you should consider backloading it like the city did. 1%, 1%, then 3%
I'm not going to compromise my safety, let them write me up.
I am now retired after 35 years. Many years ago some boss had the same idea. However, we had some decent commanders back then who had been on the street at one time. The order only lasted a short while, DUE TO PROVEN CONCERNS ONVER OFFICER SAFETY!
It seems that the team thats running the department now has to imput form the officers they are suppost to protect, and hhave no idea what really goes on during the long, hot summer here.
I am glad I'm retired because these stupid, uncarring bosses will get someone killed. I think the Union should then hold them personally responsible in a lawsuit.
I havent arrested ANYONE this year,,nor have I written one parker or mover,,SCREW this city
I agree-Lights Out. Townsend made us turn on the Mars Lights during blizzards. All kinds of crashes.
I can see during a major event-Squad parked, so you would know where the Police were, if needed-Not at a ghetto domestic, or man with a gun call. WTF is he trying to make us targets?
The R-MAN is going to be very very busy in the next few day.
And it seems they take the cars in the order they were called in, not in order if that car is working or not, or if that car is down in the ghetto.
Officers may have to be rescued and cars may have to be abandoned if they can't be driven out of violent hostle areas. Save the officers, screw the cars.
I fear it may come to this and I do not want to see this, I do not want anyone hurt but, pictures of burned out CPD squad cars on the street on the front page may do us some good.
Stay safe, Watch your backs, keep your JUMPER CABLES handy. (Turn off PDT and all electronics of both vehicles when using jumper cables. Connectect Red to Good+ then to Down+, Connect Black to Good- then to Metal part of engine or frame of down car, do not connect Black-Clamp to Negative- Down Battery Terminal unless the procedure fails to start after a few tries to avoid sparks and possibility of explosion. Disconnect in reverse order.)
Dumb, the r men will be busy with dead batteries. yeah leave the liughts on when ur inside a hose doing a report for 20 minutes
werent we taught that police lights attract dui drivers. thus causing them to hit police cars.
See fighting the system just got you 2%. If you just did what you were told and didn't make any waves you would have got what the gold stars got. 2% and 17 unpaid furlough days. We only got 2% but we still have our pride. Now keep up the fight. We are very hard on ourselves. Look at these streets and san dogs who have to take pay cuts, unpaid time off and come election time will be knocking on doors to support the same villians who stuck it in their ass. That would really suck. Enjoy the important things family and friends, fight for them, thats all.
I will put a blow up doll next to me so that I give the "perception" that I'm 99..
Has this IDIOT completly lost his FUCKING MIND,FUCK YOU J-FLED.I aint gonna do it and neither is anyone else.Sheesh...
I wont do it!
Leaving the lights on will kill the batteries in the Tahoes. They are already overloaded with electronic$. Add the a/c, and the whole fuckin' fleet will be down on the first hot day.
Disaster awaits. Don't get stuck in the 'hood.
4/18/2010 09:52:00 AM
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I can see it now; IAD statement of officer whose squad was stolen. "It's all due to that order about leaving the bug lights on! I had to leave the car running or the battery would be dead, and when I was distracted, they stole the squad car."
WHAT A GOOF! I bet you could fit some mars bars on J-FLED's head!
They feel the sergeants will receive the 16% originally offered by the city. Also they have been looking for that D2A seperation and this arbitrators ruling virtually guarantees that if they get the 16%. The city wants to divide and conquer and so be it, thats what will happen.
Then all Lt's with over 20 years should request to be demoted and retire to get a bigger pension because a Sgt. will make more than a Lt.
How about a weather machine that makes it rain or snow in Englewood ALL THE TIME. That seems to be the only thing that works......
Good grief.
Senator's son cited for DUI in SUV registered to state
April 18, 2010 4:04 PM | No Comments
The son of Illinois Senate President John Cullerton was cited with driving under the influence after he was stopped in downtown Chicago in an SUV registered to the state, authorities said.
Garritt M. Cullerton, 26, had a blood-alcohol level of 0.188 when he was pulled over in the 800 block of North Dearborn Street shortly after midnight, according to police. The level is more than twice the legal limit of 0.08.
Cullerton was cited with DUI, negligent driving and improper lane usage, police said.
He was driving a 2009 Ford Escape registered to the state Senate, according to records and police.
Neither Cullerton nor his father had any immediate comment. The senator's office said it was preparing a statement.
-- Jeremy Gorner
I BET HE GETS AQUITTED. HE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE A STATE VEHICLE AND A JOB HE HAS NO QUALIFICATIONS TO HOLD,(OTHER THAN FOR A LAST NAME)AND ROME CONTINUES TO BURN!!!!
any copper that doesn't vote this next election or votes for Daley is an idiot and deserves what we get...
The son of Illinois Senate President John Cullerton was cited with driving under the influence after he was stopped in downtown Chicago in an SUV registered to the state, authorities said.
Never ends,does it. These people behave like this is their personal property.
The son of Illinois Senate President John Cullerton was cited with driving under the influence after he was stopped in downtown Chicago in an SUV registered to the state, authorities said.
I need a SUV to use when I go out drinking. Can I borrow one from the state or the city?
WELL I GUESS I'LL JUST KEEP EVERYTING ON FROM 1600HRS - 2359HRS.
AND COLLECT CR'S FOR THE YUPPIES COMPLAINING I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THROUGH TRAFFIC.
I'LL JUST FORWARD THEM TO THE HEAD RETARD IN CHARGE.
Squad . . .
"Hold me down switching over to Citywide 3 . . . My battery is dead".
NOW . . that should kill an hour of my fuckin' day waiting for the R-Man.
blue flu
No Jodi you can't play with the lights for your ride-a-long.
Everyone claims they are not gonna do shit now but how many are gonna do only what's required?you got your people on mangmt ,kiss asses , and hopeful to get in a unit! Let's not forget our supvr evaluations....
Blue Lights aka "Asshole Magnets!"
God how we wish the high-rises were still up just on the off chance that a building would "fall" on j-fled & co.
The smartest muthafuckahs ever to wear gold stars strike again!
Get bent wies-hole! Fuck you and this policy group fuckery!
We do swear, aver and attest that these fools are actually trying to GET POLICEMEN KILLED!
Fuck you again... A bullshit directive isn't worth a Copper's life!
If you humps want to make an impression hire more Police!
These idiots honestly think Policemen are expendable!
Go pound piss to a powder... All of you!
off topic
what's the retro for a 30 year
captain and lieutenant
NEW YORK TIMES!!! Northen. I'd sure hate to be on the wrong side of you. You make pit bulls look like pussy cats. Great job, John! You are a effin legend. The NYT story is already up on Crimefile and NYT.
FIRE WEIS
FREE COZZI
I won't pretend to know if the emergency lights is a good thing or not. It sounds like maybe it should be discretionary.
As just a regular citizen, I am in favor of police being as visible as possible. I'd put every cop from the superintendent on down in uniform and get the bureaucrats out of their cushy offices and out on the street where they might have some chance of doing some good.
If the reason for the directive is to have the cameras come on during the stops, there are good reasons to have the cameras on during such events, even if the blue lights are not. Can't the cameras be turned on by hand as well?
After reading every single comment from this post, I must say it comes from 100% pure hands on experience as facts!!!!! I personally had my right leg crushed after a drunk driver gravitated right onto the "pretty emergency lights"!! Been there, done that, and the dept. did not I repeat DID NOT "have my back" after this injury!!! I don't care if "they" spar me, I will not draw negative attn to myself as a "99" unit.
When I read comments like "we are lucky to have a job" and "look on the bright side of the contract" and "look at the economy" I just can't believe that these posters are so institutionalized in their thinking that they buy into this bullshit. Wake up assholes!Everything in Shitcago is a conspiracy and always has been,and now a thief from here is in Washington.
Who do you think put us in this position? It was the politicians and the bankers and while they all continue to get rich and draw as many pensions as they want, they have you saying your lucky to have a job and thanks for the table scraps.They have you right where they want you. Saying your pleased to get fucked!
Your response to these crimes is thank you, please just let me have my little job and I won't cause any trouble. Do those of us who have the courage to rage against the machine a favor and get out of our way because you are sheep and cannon fodder who deserve every lousy thing that happens to you, because you have no intelligence or spine. You obviously prefer to die on your knees with it shoved up your ass! You will probably even be thankful for that,because hey your lucky.
My favorite line in the comments is "if you don't like it quit"! That is the favorite phrase of unqualified no nothing supervisors. Men don't quit they find a way to work things to their best advantage. The best tool we have is the medical. Use it for about 40 days a year and you have your raise. I will be at the FOP meeting at noon tuesday and after the riot I will be going on the medical,so should you.
The glass is empty people.
MOTEL 6 - "We'll leave the lights on for you."
CPD - "We'll leave the lights on for you"
Difference - Motel 6 is promoting hospitality and great service.
CPD is promoting sitting duck syndrome.
Anonymous said...
I was at a retirement party last night as were some members of the sergeants association. Needless to say, they had a smurk on their faces. That being said, they were not surprised by the arbitrators ruling, but stated it was a win for the sergeants association. It's a win because they feel the sergeants association and the city will NOT go to arbitration. They feel the sergeants will receive the 16% originally offered by the city. Also they have been looking for that D2A seperation and this arbitrators ruling virtually guarantees that if they get the 16%. The city wants to divide and conquer and so be it, thats what will happen. Not saying it's a good thing, but the sergeants will come out on top in this situation.
Remember the sergeants were the only people who DID NOT endorse that march around city hall.
4/17/2010 12:35:00 PM
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WOW are YOU .....SOFT!
Reading SHIT like this makes me believe that MAYBE 35th st. folks are paid to "stir the pot" by writing on this blog to get us all going...
The weather is not bad out there get out and run and try and get your mind off POLICE you my friend need a hobby or something else to get away from it all....
Go study for the SGT.'s test you may need to with this paranoid mental capacity....you may not know enough....
People CALM down.....RELAX!
Can I turn on all the lights and stuff when I get another bs event number??????
Chicago is another Puerto Rico, in Puerto Rico all emergency vehicles drive around with there emergency lights activated for a false sense of security. What a joke for the citizens of Chicago. Like living in a police state
I'd be glad to get something YOU, the LTS and the CAPTAINS did get. We don't have the 55 and out medical. So just please take your hostility and paranoia somewhere else.
4/18/2010 01:25:00 AM
Im frankly tired of crybaby fucking sgts! These pricks have it made and act like they have it so tough...FUCK YOU SARGE! Most sgts I know cant even spell their own names, let alone be a competent supervisor! how about you assholes take charge some day and settle your shit before we have to jump on the proverbial grenade for you pussies? Talk about a waste of money! I get field Lts and W/C but there are WAYYYYYY too many sgts on this department! Should be one Sgt a shift in slow district and 2 in busy and ZERO on the desk! WAAAAYYYYY too many Sgts!
I remember instructing in vain during my KMA years passing on all of the "important" things I'd learned over a long and active career to young recruits.
I wanted to pass down some of the street things learned over time that PO's might benefit from on their patrols. This was during a brief stint at the training division.
I recall telling the young wide eyed,and anxious to get out and do it PO's...When you respond to in progress calls ie. burglary in progress, man with a gun, robbery in progress, do NOT use lights and siren if you can safely avoid it.
Don't announce your arrival. You'll have a better chance to catch someone.
Use them on 10-1's, rape in progress, shots fired at police, and gang fights in progress...
I guess I was wrong once again.
Now that I'm retired I get bitch slapped every day by some of the idiotic things, in the press, out of the mouth of the weisel.
He really can do it all.
I still hope that, out there, there is one PO who remembers the reasons I gave for NOT using the lights and siren.
be careful po's you're all alone but for one another.
The pud is useless.
If J-Jag is going to Concordville Pa. I vote that alla law enforcement motorcyclists associations adopt that town as a place to take over for a week every year to ridicule him into an early grave.
Attention all CURRENT FTO'S AND PAST FTO'S
The union just f--ked you!
The arbitrators ruling just overturned the unfair labor for the 2008 district reduction and removal of d-2 status for FTO's who declined to be reassigned.
Also we were told by both FOP lodge 7 and Management that FTO'S were to be pay grade D2A, but I guess everyone lies to the real police !!!
So We All Are On The Same Page !!!!
VOTE EVERYONE OUT !!!
AND DON'T TRUST ANYONE FROM THE DETECTIVE DIVISION !!!!
FOP = DETECTIVE DIVISION CLUB !!!!!!!!
OR " F-UCK O-NLY P-ATROLMAN "!!!!!!!
J- Fled has no chance of saving chicago. Everybody including him knows that his goose is cooked. Every officer is disgruntled and the Mayor had the balls to laugh on TV. He who has the last laugh laughs best. Let the shootings begin baby, and more 80 degree days will come. His stupid policies will cause even more shootings and unprecidented bloodshed. He will be dumped, and so will the mayor. Not to mention if Cozzi's judges have an ounce of fairplay he will be released to haunt the shit out of the J-Fool who fled and further drive him back into hiding until he J-Fleds for good.AMF eeeeyeeessss
Northen,
You piss me off. I spent $6 for that liberal NYT just to read page 27. Now I find it's on their dam web site.
You are the bomb, John. Great job!
from the New York Times article:
"Police officers like Mr. Donahue believe that Mr. Weis referred the case to his old federal allies. But the police chief said the F.B.I. was already looking into the incident when he took office."
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This statement is a blatant lie. I hear Supt. Weis state at the town hall meeting held at Lane Tech that HE, jody weis, referred the case to Chicago FBI SAIC Grant for investigation BEFORE he even assumed his position of Supt of Police.
Now these two know each other, they were co-workers. Weis held that job previously. If the incoming Supt of Police of Chicago, your old pal, asks you to "take a look" at a case in the public eye, what would that mean?
It would mean exactly what happened was orchestrated to happen by weis with SAIC Grant's help.
For weis to now say he didn't do it is an outright lie, I heard weis say the opposite at Lane Tech. From his lips to my ears.
HATER said...
GO BACK TO HIDING AND LET UR CABAL MAKE UP NEW RULES THEY HAVENT SEEN THE STREETS SINCE THE DAY OF THE CALL BOX.
NO OFFENSE
4/18/2010 10:23:00 AM
I don't think the shitters were even born when we got rid of the callboxes.
New York did a great job years ago when they pushed most of the dope dealing indoors. Less chance of these clowns shooting or being shot. No fan of Phil but he had the right idea there.
Now what does Narcotics do? Thousands of Search Warrants on residences. Pushing the dope boys outside.
Great move
Here's an experiment, in the hours of daylight turn on your MARS light and see how many pull over as you casually drive around, or tell you that you left them on. I bet you could drive around for quite awhile before you'd notice any drivers reacting to the blue.
--Um I did this recently - stupid me forgot to turn the lights off after the stop. Nobody was pulling over as I drove around with the lights on for a few blocks before I realized I had them on. So You Are Right!
"The scene had been secured," Mr. Weis said. "The victims had already been taken to the hospital; the officers are there talking to witnesses and trying to develop some possible leads. I think if I show up there, I take them away from their work."
--Then why NOW after this, did he say he will be showing up in the districts to work along side of us? Talking out of his ass! Someone said he was in 003 the other night. Stay away JFled, you are an interference and nobody wants you around.
Good to have the lights on so when you ticket writers are writing up that 80 year old grandmother the gang bangers know you are not going to bother them. Another solid idea Mr. Super. Stop thinking like a FBI Agent and start thinking with common sense.
Turn that anger around brothers and sisters in blue! Lets ban together now! Get everyone you know out to vote. With the sheer number of police,our friends and family, the number of firemen and disgruntled city workers, we can beat this! All three Unions, reach out to the 2 civilian unions for city employees and the fire department's unions! Lets start now. Everyone should register and we will dictate our lives from this day on! We can do it!
It is time for Jfled, Mayor Daley, Hubberman, Beale, Smith the fucked up CPD bosses as Cuello and Mike Masters who both have broken major rules that are boarder line Official Misconduct, to GO!!!!
WE DESERVE SO MUCH MORE THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN GETTING! I AM BURNED OUT AND SO ARE YOU!!!
Its TIME!
I've been seeing this for a while in 014. I'm seeing people with 3 or 4 years on arriving to IP calls with their lights on. Forget trying to catch an armed offender or burglary offender..just scare them away.
$310K a year for a yellow-bellied coward. What was Daley thinking?
Kudos to Northside and the New York Times.
Perhaps we're appriaching this wrong. Maybe it would entertaining to see how fast this gets rescinded weere we to comply in full? Might be worthwhile to see some backlash.
Can the family of murder victim Reginald Meyers sue the coward J-Fled for running the other way?
SCC:
Can you put up a link to the New York Times story on J-Fled?
Guys, it boils down to the fact you do not have to follow an unlawful order. Running the lights all the time is in violation of State law (And common sense. If you get written up big deal.
Anonymous said...
I won't pretend to know if the emergency lights is a good thing or not. It sounds like maybe it should be discretionary.
As just a regular citizen, I am in favor of police being as visible as possible. I'd put every cop from the superintendent on down in uniform and get the bureaucrats out of their cushy offices and out on the street where they might have some chance of doing some good.
If the reason for the directive is to have the cameras come on during the stops, there are good reasons to have the cameras on during such events, even if the blue lights are not. Can't the cameras be turned on by hand as well?
4/18/2010 05:35:00 PM
The camera can only be used on Traffic stops. They cannot be activated at all times. It is State law.
Please Bring Back Hiram Grau!!!
I'll be damned if I'm going to spend $6 for the NY Times to read about J-Fled the coward.
Check www.NYTimes.com
In search, put in WEIS and CHICAGO to download link.
DC Civilian says,
The idea in DC is that MPD has them on while they are cruising city streets. That way people can find them if they need them. But I don't believe at the stops they leave them on. They can if they want, I guess, but I mostly see them off when they are stopped.
It is an anti-terrorism move recommended by consultants from Israel, they do it there b/c of terrorism etc. The consultants came post 9-11. None of the other DC agencies do it.
It works for Walmart. Think of Shitcago as a big Walmart with J-fled and little dickie as greeters.
The New York Times has a Sunday circulation of 1.5 million copies. Thank you, Sarge.
FIRE J-FLED!
Stay safe, Watch your backs, keep your JUMPER CABLES handy. (Turn off PDT and all electronics of both vehicles when using jumper cables. Connectect Red to Good+ then to Down+, Connect Black to Good- then to Metal part of engine or frame of down car, do not connect Black-Clamp to Negative- Down Battery Terminal unless the procedure fails to start after a few tries to avoid sparks and possibility of explosion. Disconnect in reverse order.)
4/18/2010 03:09:00 PM
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Somewhere in the general orders is one that forbids us to jump-start cars. Can't assist a citizen and can't jump our own. WAIT for the r-man. Nothing quite like being paid for waiting for the r-man, unless it's waiting for the r-man due to a stupid new directive.
Prior to O.W. lights were required to be on on certain holidays to slow traffic and show Police presence. When OW took over, one of the reasons for the change to blue lights was because the public was used to seeing the red lights on all the time and wouldn't yield. So after J-fud what color is next?
The son of Illinois Senate President John Cullerton was thrown under the bus when his father said he took the car without his knowledge. Even family isn't safe to a politician.
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City Treasurer Threatens Defamation Suit Over Policeman’s Articles
Mayor Richard M. Daley grudgingly bears the news media’s tendency to “scrooten” him constantly. Stephanie D. Neely, the first-term city treasurer, is taking a different approach to dealing with scrutiny from at least one pen-wielding critic. She retained a lawyer and is threatening a defamation suit against a Chicago police officer who repeatedly criticized her in the F.O.P. News, a union newsletter published by the local Fraternal Order of Police.
WTF???
Just read the NYT interview with j-fled.
This so called man is not only a COWARD but a fucking LIAR as well!
Weis-hole!
You haven't done SHIT for the men and women of this Department!
The only fucking reason we could think of for you really being here was because 42 extra-short cried like a little bitch when DOJ came a callin' regarding a take-over of CPD. You're a lying, soulless psychopathic turd just like shorty.
CPD under Federal consent decree would have severely curtailed the amount of political game playing and general high performance fuckery orchestrated within the Department by the poverty-pimps, runnin' dog rev'runs, alderfools and perhaps even shorty himself.
Wouldn't that have been a scream to see the sweet kool-aid of clout/influence/interference and all the effort going into glad-handing, back slapping, jaw-jacking, cock-blocking, chair-sniffing ass-kissing & knee-walking from dick to dick turn into freshly laid donkey shit in the mouths of those who benefit the most?
Shorty was just protecting his turf by signing on this cabal of imperial ass-clowns and DOJ is in on the joke since the POTUS & AGUS are wholly owned subsidiaries of Daley Inc. nowadays.
The only one who has any shred of integrity of late IS THE POLICEMAN!
...And he endures being trated like a second class citizen!
Crying for Fitzgerald accomplished nothing... He wouldn't have said shit even if he had a mouth full of it.
The only good thing is the rest of the country is getting a taste of the Chicago Way.
Unlike the crazy muthafucks here in Chicago (and you know who you are! deluded bastards!) who campaigned & continually voted for shorty, the rest of the country is calling bullshit on the Chicago Way.
This IS a step in the right direction at least. Cowards, liars and bullies hate to exposed.
If in fact the lights are required on during EVERY call per the new directive, it is a violation of State law. Period.
We are Lead by the bling and Incompitent. WTF I mean blind and incopetent. The department leaders are all political hacks!! just like Licoln looking for a true general during the Civil War. Give Us a Grant. Pass me some mores Scotch and a cigar
Im frankly tired of crybaby fucking sgts! These pricks have it made and act like they have it so tough...FUCK YOU SARGE! Most sgts I know cant even spell their own names, let alone be a competent supervisor! how about you assholes take charge some day and settle your shit before we have to jump on the proverbial grenade for you pussies? Talk about a waste of money! I get field Lts and W/C but there are WAYYYYYY too many sgts on this department! Should be one Sgt a shift in slow district and 2 in busy and ZERO on the desk! WAAAAYYYYY too many Sgts!
4/18/2010 06:16:00 PM
Your the one being a crybaby.
for all your talk I bet your the first one to call for a Sgt. cause you cant or wont make a decision. Dont be mad at the Sgt.s were the only ones who didnt sell out yet. The union of the other white shirts sold everyone out.Be mad at them.But not knowing that shows how simple minded and dumb you are.I bet youll be in blues forever.
Will I get a write up by an Inspector if I dont do this? I can and have pointed out flaws in several Inspectors uniforms.
As for that do nothing s.o.b Weis, he can go screw his cats.
Here's the link to the NYT article about jfled
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/us/18cncweis.html?scp=1&sq=weis&st=cse
Northern hits the New York Times....... Page 26 I believe........ check it out!!!! How is JFLED going to explain that??
"Attention all CURRENT FTO'S AND PAST FTO'S
The union just f--ked you!
The arbitrators ruling just overturned the unfair labor for the 2008 district reduction and removal of d-2 status for FTO's who declined to be reassigned.
Also we were told by both FOP lodge 7 and Management that FTO'S were to be pay grade D2A, but I guess everyone lies to the real police !!!"
Maybe you should re-read that section of the decision.
The FOP wanted all 25 districts to be training districts, the city wants only 6. The arbitrator wondered if he even had juristiction on this issue. He held for the city as the FOP did not have sufficiently strong reason for its position. Same as the 3/4hr / day. Nor was it able to get the D2A pay grade for them.
As for what the district status is for the FTO's, good question. The FOP won a grievance about their forced reassignment, but the city won on their future assignment.
Does this offset the grievance victory? More money to the lawyers....
In any case, there is little need for FTO's as the city is hiring in such small numbers. And the program is in serious trouble. They have been jagged around several times on the program that that it will want be difficult to fill it.
I AM BURNED OUT AND SO ARE YOU!!!
Its TIME!
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I feel that way about this city and am not a cop
Leaving the blue lights on isn't "green", won't old shorty be mad?
To 06:55 PM, I went to the town how meeting at 35/Michigan to give J-Fled a chance and hear what he had to say.At that meeting he also stated that "he only forwarded the security video of Cozzi to is Buddy at the Justice Department to see what he thought of it and it merited civil rights violations". So he blatantly lied again just like he did about the shots fired scene in 007 when he stated "gotta run". The Cozzi video was all over the media for a tear prior to J-Fled becoming Sup.,if the Justice Department wanted to indict Cozzi for civil rights violations they would of done it when the incident occurred and not after Cozzi plead guilty to misdemeanor charges,anger management classes, and a two year suspension. Bill Cozzi is only sitting in federal prison because J-Fled asked that his buddy indict Cozzi to stop him from returning to CPD. That is a total abuse of power not only by J-Fled but the Justice Department .The case was completely adjudicated on the state level and closed by the Police Board.
Free Bill Cozzi!!!!!
Anonymous said...
Stay safe, Watch your backs, keep your JUMPER CABLES handy. (Turn off PDT and all electronics of both vehicles when using jumper cables. Connectect Red to Good+ then to Down+, Connect Black to Good- then to Metal part of engine or frame of down car, do not connect Black-Clamp to Negative- Down Battery Terminal unless the procedure fails to start after a few tries to avoid sparks and possibility of explosion. Disconnect in reverse order.)
4/18/2010 03:09:00 PM
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Somewhere in the general orders is one that forbids us to jump-start cars. Can't assist a citizen and can't jump our own. WAIT for the r-man. Nothing quite like being paid for waiting for the r-man, unless it's waiting for the r-man due to a stupid new directive.
4/18/2010 09:31:00 PM
I have surely been reading General Orders (blue), Special Orders(yellow), and Department Notices(gray) more years than you have and that jump starting a car is not forbidden. The idea of that piece is to get the vehicle and the OFFICERS out of harms way ASAP and to a safe area like the station and wait for the R-MAN there. Towing a vehicle with a department vehicle is not permitted by an order, (I would quote it but I am at home and I don't keep the big books like I use to) but even that has been done in an real(let's the F--- otta here) emergency.
Stay safe, if I had a dollar for every squad car and every copper's car I jump started over the years....
I just read the NYT article and as posted here j-fed is a liar. What I found more curious is Mike Shields comment in the same article.
"“If Mayor Daley made Jesus the superintendent,” said Michael Shields, a Chicago policeman and trustee on the department’s pension board, “the policeman on the street would say, ‘You know, that Jesus, he takes his orders from Mayor Daley.’ ”
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>>>Anonymous said...
If J-Jag is going to Concordville Pa. I vote that alla law enforcement motorcyclists associations adopt that town as a place to take over for a week every year to ridicule him into an early grave.
4/18/2010 06:33:00 PM<<<
Don't do anything until he gets the job and leaves and gets sworn in. Don't delay his exit. I just hope he takes Masters, O'Kiefe and Brust with him.
When he gets there I will line up a film crew and remake the movie THE WILD ONES with Bruce Willis as the Marlon Brando part, Mikey Rourke for the Lee Marvin part. We just won't tell anyboody until we get there. We'll declare the town Sturgis East.
After that, we will just relocate about a dozen or so Secton 8 families from the Westside as his permanent guests. Jody, you're fucking us over will haunt you for the rest of your short miserable life.
Your the one being a crybaby.
for all your talk I bet your the first one to call for a Sgt. cause you cant or wont make a decision. Dont be mad at the Sgt.s were the only ones who didnt sell out yet. The union of the other white shirts sold everyone out.Be mad at them.But not knowing that shows how simple minded and dumb you are.I bet youll be in blues forever.
You were all good until that last sentence. In one sentence you just insulted every blueshirt on the job, thus proving the original poster's point. You asshole.
OK, I am not a cop and even I know it's N O R T H E N -- only one fucking 'R' in there and it's kinda, sorta almost in the middle
Retired and Glad of It said...
HATER said...
GO BACK TO HIDING AND LET UR CABAL MAKE UP NEW RULES THEY HAVENT SEEN THE STREETS SINCE THE DAY OF THE CALL BOX.
NO OFFENSE
4/18/2010 10:23:00 AM
I don't think the shitters were even born when we got rid of the callboxes.
4/18/2010 07:27:00 PM
I am still working and I still have my call box key, given to me in the academy, along with a police star that never had any paint peel off. What a proud day that was, when I raised my hand and took that oath and had that freshly polished Chicago Police Star pinned on my new blue shirt.
It is amazing how wrong it all went.
Some jagoff sgt said...I bet your the first one to call for a Sgt. cause you cant or wont make a decision. Dont be mad at the Sgt.s were the only ones who didnt sell out yet. The union of the other white shirts sold everyone out.Be mad at them.But not knowing that shows how simple minded and dumb you are.I bet youll be in blues forever.
A real cop said...Arrogant white shirts are not your friend. Above is an example of their simple mindset. "I bet youll be in blues forever." How bout I WANT to be in blues forever you P.O.S. This dept is a sham and supervisors are the biggest clowns under the bigtop. Go kiss someones ass and run a meaningless mission you prick.
Anybody that does anything in this dept. is worth their weight in turds. I don't have to kiss ass , I never have, and I won't. Too bad being an ass kisser is second nature to chumps like you. I like my blue shirt.
I am not a cop. I have a few friends who are, and I frequent this blog. I listen to my home district on my scanner, my friends while they're at work, and occasionally the the Moto II trunked systems when in range.
It literally seems to me as though everything your administration does is in the interest of getting you killed. It doesn't even seem subtle. Things are making less and less sense each day, and I'm sure I don't even know the half of it.
I seriously feel like I'm missing something here...
In any case, there is little need for FTO's as the city is hiring in such small numbers. And the program is in serious trouble. They have been jagged around several times on the program that that it will want be difficult to fill it.
4/18/2010 11:54:00 PM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
According to the issues decided by the arbitrator, I didn't see D2A anywhere nor did I see, guarantees'
of a " just cause " like the detectives get.
So the next time a FTO is removed from their position because 1 exempt and 1 sgt along with a flunky po decide that you don' t have the right to earn D2 pay i'll call FOP . Oh wait If i'm a detective D2A i'll never be removed from my position, ever !!!!!!
THANKS FOP, THANKS DETECTIVE DIVISION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is an anti-terrorism move recommended by consultants from Israel, they do it there b/c of terrorism etc. The consultants came post 9-11. None of the other DC agencies do it.
4/18/2010 09:23:00 PM
Across the board, the only true requirement for a policing strategy or law enforcement technique is being within the law.
That said, those strategies and techniques must be customized for the circumstances at hand and the locality and the location where they are being employed. Doing so is paramount for officer safety.
Something that is wise and works well in one locality does not necessarily work in another or all locations.
While the strategy and/or technique of employing emergency equipment at all times might be seen as a positive move by Israeli terrorism experts, who come from a place where they have overwhelming support from the community for their police, and a place where the threat or opponent comes not from within the community, I will state the case as simply and succinctly as possible.
Israel ain't 007-Englewood. It's like soccer v. baseball. They are different games, with different fields of play, with different lawful rules, and with different assignments for the participants, with each game having different offensive-defensive circumstances that require different techniques and strategies, in order to ultimately win the contest by defeating the opponent. Enough said.
....I bet youll be in blues forever.
4/18/2010 10:59:00 PM
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
another clown knocking us blue shirts, well sign your name a%$ho%e so US BLUESHIRTS know who you are and how you really feel about us- you punk
Please Bring Back Hiram Grau!!!
4/18/2010 09:16:00 PM
I beg you back. Please shut the fuck up! That little sawed-off incompetent couldn't find the lavatory in a public washroom if he didn't have Phat Phil leading him to it.
Regardless of his ethnicity or disability, if he was not connected he would have been lucky to have become the clean up guy in the elephant enclosure at the circus.
And, without Phat Phil to tell him, he wouldn't have been smart enough to wait for the elephant to finish before cleaning up, or to wear a big hat to deflect the elephant plops and keep them from landing on his head!
....Bill Cozzi is only sitting in federal prison because J-Fled asked that his buddy indict Cozzi to stop him from returning to CPD. That is a total abuse of power not only by J-Fled but the Justice Department .The case was completely adjudicated on the state level and closed by the Police Board.
Free Bill Cozzi!!!!!
4/19/2010 12:15:00 AM...
Wear a YELLOW RIBBON at St. Jude's for Bill and to protest all the other fuck-ups of J-Fled.
It is amazing how wrong it all went.
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What did you expect working for a political administration that is one of the most corrupt in the country?
Old man Daley was much better at keeping the lid on than his kid is.
It is amazing how wrong it all went.
4/19/2010 06:18:00 AM
You must have been hired around 1978 (?) or before because I do not think the 1980 classes and after got a call box key. If so, you are at least 52, but, if you are 55 or over, it is time for the next chapter of your life. Grab that health insurance deal and run!
From the Law Firm of Long, Gone, Fine, Fit and Happy, LLC.
I don't give a shit just like the aldercowards inventing shit to act like they have an idea,nothing matters but masters and FREE BILL COZZI NOW!!
When someone never worked patrol why do you think he would understand patrol.
I'm sure he watched the concept on T.J. Hooker and it looked really cool.
"I seriously feel like I'm missing something here...
4/19/2010 08:23:00 AM"
nooooooo.
seriously?
shirley you jest......
What are they gonna do, CR the whole department because you didn't turn on your lights?
Every time you're on a BS paper call and the lights are going?He's been watching too many '70's cop shows...
Masters.
You must have been hired around 1978 (?) or before because I do not think the 1980 classes and after got a call box key. If so, you are at least 52, but, if you are....
86-3C Still got my Call Box Key and 52YOA
87-2C we got call box keys and I am only 46 now. That is all......
Anonymous said...
You must have been hired around 1978 (?) or before because I do not think the 1980 classes and after got a call box key. If so, you are at least 52, but, if you are....
86-3C Still got my Call Box Key and 52YOA
4/19/2010 11:23:00 PM
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86-4 and got a callbox key in the academy.....
Anonymous said...
It is amazing how wrong it all went.
4/19/2010 06:18:00 AM
You must have been hired around 1978 (?) or before because I do not think the 1980 classes and after got a call box key. If so, you are at least 52, but, if you are 55 or over, it is time for the next chapter of your life. Grab that health insurance deal and run!
From the Law Firm of Long, Gone, Fine, Fit and Happy, LLC.
4/19/2010 11:03:00 AM
There you go thinking again!!!
Yes Virginia, there actually were callbox keys issued way back in the '80s. There were some callboxes still being used to open doors from outside etc.... The keys also fit some traffic light control boxes too. That came in handy when they were screwed up, you didn't have to do traffic control. By the way, why does everyone assume that if someone has the age, (55 or more), that they have to go? A whole bunch of damn good Police are the right age but weren't hired out of their mom's lap at an early age and haven't maxed out their salary or just can't afford to leave yet. Guess you all know better? Thats why you were thinking!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You must have been hired around 1978 (?) or before because I do not think the 1980 classes and after got a call box key. If so, you are at least 52, but, if you are....
86-3C Still got my Call Box Key and 52YOA
4/19/2010 11:23:00 PM
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86-4 and got a callbox key in the academy.....
4/20/2010 02:28:00 AM
86-5, got my call box key
Anonymous said...
"I seriously feel like I'm missing something here...
4/19/2010 08:23:00 AM"
nooooooo.
seriously?
shirley you jest......
4/19/2010 07:41:00 PM
I am serious... and don't call me Shirley.
I am the mother of a young police officer. please tell me that my son's life will not be more in danger than it already is on this job. please allow the police officers on the street the discretion to make the call on how to use their lights or not.
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