Head Count
- Grade D-1 Number of Officers
Step 1 255
Step 2 157
Step 3 604
Step 4 595
Step 5 449
Step 6 2,782
Step 7 2,472
Step 8 1,352
Step 9 775
Step 10 323
9,764 Officers as of 01 January 2010.
How many retired yesterday? 120? And how many left in the previous three-and-a-half months? Another 50? 80?
Leaving aside the arguments of "you have to count detectives, D-2 spots, white shirts, brass, etc.," and assuming the numbers on the medical roll or light duty are close to true, we're easily under 8,000 blue shirts, a far cry from the 11,500 assumed for full staffing.
The thin blue line is fraying. Rapidly. Our comments are alive with tales of the entire 003 District running one-man units on midnights and 011 downing six of fifteen beat cars each night. We are at the crisis point and the bosses at these CAR meetings saying they don't want to hear about "shortages" is like petulant first graders sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling, "La la la I can't hear you!"
How many retired yesterday? 120? And how many left in the previous three-and-a-half months? Another 50? 80?
Leaving aside the arguments of "you have to count detectives, D-2 spots, white shirts, brass, etc.," and assuming the numbers on the medical roll or light duty are close to true, we're easily under 8,000 blue shirts, a far cry from the 11,500 assumed for full staffing.
The thin blue line is fraying. Rapidly. Our comments are alive with tales of the entire 003 District running one-man units on midnights and 011 downing six of fifteen beat cars each night. We are at the crisis point and the bosses at these CAR meetings saying they don't want to hear about "shortages" is like petulant first graders sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling, "La la la I can't hear you!"
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
159 Comments:
NEVER EVER Work 10-99 at night!
What is Daley doing with the salaries of the officers we don't have but are still budgeted? Will we get a tax refund?
Anyone?
Media?
US Atty?
Notice all the one man dick cars on midnights. One dick does the scene and canvass, some else goes to the hospital later.
Notice how the Union lied to the Detectives? We were told we could bid on vacancies quarterly just like the Segeants. It was agreed upon by the union and the city. No mention of any such agreement at all in the contract.
FUCK every one of the FOP BOARD, I feel like punching out Donahue and Doherty. All the LIES just sell out every one.
Was the FOP smart enough to YouTube their presser? I'd like to see where my dues go. Local media played ya all like fools.
Kinda on topic:
Isn't now the PERFECT time to address the residency issue?
We can no longer afford to live in this city. We got f*cked big time on the contract and maybe if the FOP starts a strong campiagn now about lifting residency they just might hear us out and throw us a bone.
Let's all put patches on our vest that say 2% like the like some of the bikers do with the 1% patch.
Off topic; SCC, please start calling for new
leadership of our union. Donahue and company have cost us too much.
1st watch in 023 for 17 April. A total of ten officers working the midnight shift. One two man car beat 2324. I know because im one of the ten. This is just ridiuculous and someone is going to get hurt.
SCC where can we start faxing you the sheets and then maybe you can publish?
OT:
I know this is only a small amount but can someone tell me why i'm getting $1.25 taken out of every check for "police insurance?"
What is police insurance? It's right above the union dues line so i'm assuming it's something to do with the union.
Have no gripe if it's going toward something worth while. Just would like to know.
Thanks.
Mayor Daley and FOP have turned a once proud hard working police force into underpaid whipping boys and girls. I'm done! What are you gonna do send me to 10th dist on midnights? I'm already there !!!!
What am I suppose to tell the kids of my friend who passed away on the job ? Your dad's life was worth a 6% raise? Go fuck yourself Daley ! I'm gonna stop at every stop light and stop sign and only park at available paring spots when going to a job. I will write paper for the next 12 yrs and won't write a singe fucking ticket ever again! And unless you are signing a complaint shithead aint going to jail. Let this god forsaken city burn to the ground.
Hey, SCC. Have you seen this? Benn was the arbitrator in another contract case for Boone County. http://www.state.il.us/ilrb/subsections/pdfs/ArbitrationAwards/Boone%20Co%20&%20FOP,%20S-MA-08-025.pdf
J-Fled...O'Queef...Masterbator...Ray-Ray...Douchgan...Henny Penny...Borat...They will pick up the slack for you dog-ass blue shirts! They will show you how it's done! They will make arrests in 007 and 011, preventing violence and saving innocent lives. Some call them...The A-Team! Pow-pow-pow-pow-pow-pow!
We know this is true, just be safe, back each other up and make sure we all go home safe. Even if you personally hate the officer, back him or her up. We all suffer when one of our one gets hurt.
***** You wanna pay us 2% a year?
Cool, goodluck with crime, my blinders are officially on til retirement day in 2023. Fuck you Chicago police yourself!
On the plus side, new sub-compact weapons are now available.
Only Kahr, Kel-Tec and Ruger.
I was hoping for a Walther PPK so I can be like James Bond.
003 is not running 99 units on midnights. its hard too do that when the watch commander denies time due to everyone.
my car can only be at one place at a time--- go to your calls and do a thorough investigation resulting in either a code or an rd---- if people bitch that it took you forever, tell them to call the mayor or the alderman and beef.... patrol has been short for years and now and it is about to bite someone in the ass... just wait till periods 6-9 hit and you have a mutiny because nobody can get time--- the medical section is about to become a rather busy place....
Shots fired at police tonight at South Shore Hospital while TRU, AREA 2 GUN TEAM, 004th District Beat cars were on scene investigating a man with gun call. Offender apprehended, and gun recovered after a short foot pursuit. The police are again targeted at a crime scene. Be safe out there. We are on our own.
ok can some one get the correct calculations for our retro???? please! even though the contract blew ass, I would like to make shure the city dosen't screw me for the little overtime retro that I have coming!
City Treasurer Threatens Defamation Suit Over Policeman’s Articles – Documents
Here is the link:
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/city-treasurer-threatens-defamation-suit-over-policeman%E2%80%99s-articles-documents/#more-1942
The great lie the city and headquarters keeps telling the media is the number is over 11,000 Well, the only ones that actually respond to the 911 calls are the D1 P.O.'s. and a large number of them are inside or in special units and are not on the street. If the media were smart enough they would ask, "what are the actual numbers of P.O.'s working the beat and responding to the calls and how many are you short?" We are getting killed out here with the work load and no one is calling it out!
Fudge the bosses. The ones in this organization could give two shits about what those in their command are having to put up with. This dept is like being detailed to a fudging air force base.
OT
Looks like the jealous types have blocked ChicagoCop.com again. Just another bump in morale for us. Why can't they leave shit alone and let us use something that helps make our jobs easier for a chance. The contract and now this.
Lets go after residency now. we got screwed, this should be our next push. Fop, for what your worth take this one to court
There isn't a lot of sympathy out there amongst the taxpayers.
Just sign me Joe TaxPayer
Well Mr Joe tax payer, there SHOULD BE SYMPATHY amongst you ingrateful FUCKS!! Police once came on this job with pride knowing the risks, the stress, the effects on our health, fam/friends...etc., but also knowing that we would be compensted for what we re subjected to. Are you told where you and your family are allowed to live? Do "people" hate or want to hurt you even though they ve never met you? Do the janitors and maintenance ppl at your company make more money than you? Did another department of your company just get awarded 4%/yr raise during the same economic downturn that was used to award you half? so go take your anti-police sentiments, your fellow yuppy liberal democRat scumbag citizens and Get Fucked Raw by Pookie N'them
Fudge the bosses. The ones in this organization could give two shits about what those in their command are having to put up with. This dept is like being detailed to a fudging air force base.
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Grow up. The word is FUCK. Also while I am schooling you, don't say bosses, that indicates you are a member of a chain gang. They are useless FUCKED up care only for themselves FUCK the blue shirt supervisors.
Apparently no one's read far enough into shithead Ben's ruling to notice all the little givebacks the union shoved up our ass without telling anyone.
I guess no one noticed that the downtown fuckheads have now been granted the ability to determine who get's special employment and who doesn't irregardless of seniority.
Take a look kids, Daley can now tel YOU that YOU don't produce enough activity during special employment, therefore YOU are now ruled ineligible to work it.
In the worst way, anyone who has time on the job just got porchfucked from working special employment from here on out.
Daley will use this as a means to prevent those earning higher pay to work special employment as well as use it as a means to continue forcing retirements from the department.
I don't work it, never have, don't give a shit. But watch the system burn to the ground now kids!!!
Us old guys are fucked, and Donahue gave it all away without a whimper.
Read thoroughly, this fuckstick arbiter admits the city's position was:
It's not that they admit they "can't" pay the raise, it's that they are "UNWILLING" to pay the raise.
So this fuckstick is in full knowledge that the city has the money to pay, they just don't want to, and this shittard goes ahead and uses the "econoomy", which he also admits is on the rise, as his excuse for fucking over the men and women of the CPD.
The city could afford it, that much was proven, and this cocksucker finds a way to give Daley what he wants.
WATCH this motherfucker Ben from now on and see how much work he gets from the City from now on.
The city knew when they picked this shithead that they'd better give him all the work they can so he'd think he got shit on by the golden goose.
Looks like it worked and this little bitch caved for Daley without justification.
NEVER EVER Work 10-99 at night!
I agree. But like a wise, old copper once said, " you can't even get 2 cops to agree on where to eat", no one will do this for fear of retribution from the bosses.
Any action from the members of Patrol has to be done as a whole. If you have one officer refusing to work his car 99 on 1st watch but then have some 5 year wonder volunteer to fill in, hoping to impress the bosses so he can get a tact spot, then we will fail.
NOW JESSE IS YAPPING.. HA
What am I suppose to tell the kids of my friend who passed away on the job ? Your dad's life was worth a 6% raise? Go fuck yourself Daley ! I'm gonna stop at every stop light and stop sign and only park at available paring spots when going to a job. I will write paper for the next 12 yrs and won't write a singe fucking ticket ever again! And unless you are signing a complaint shithead aint going to jail. Let this god forsaken city burn to the ground.
4/17/2010 01:00:00 AM
EXACTLY the right response. The powers that be want it both ways. They want you to respond to each call fast so they don't have to hear complaints about slow police service AND they will rake you over the coals if you get involved in an accident while responding to your call.
Let's face it, when the only accountability of a boss is not to piss off those ABOVE him, they will do everything to make sure that doesn't happen, even if the P.O. was correct in their actions. If the boss feels threatened, you are toast.
the medical section is about to become a rather busy place....
I already called and put in my reservation. LOL!
ok can some one get the correct calculations for our retro???? please! even though the contract blew ass, I would like to make shure the city dosen't screw me for the little overtime retro that I have coming!
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You can try FIVEFRANK.COM. They have a reto calculator. But to get as exact a figure as you can, you need to know how many hours you worked special from July 07 to now. Also include any out of grade pay you worked (acting Desk Sgt, acting FTO).
OT:
I know this is only a small amount but can someone tell me why i'm getting $1.25 taken out of every check for "police insurance?"
What is police insurance? It's right above the union dues line so i'm assuming it's something to do with the union.
Have no gripe if it's going toward something worth while. Just would like to know.
Thanks.
It's your life insurance which is going up from 25,000 to 75,000 thanks to the arbitartor.
Great job markie!
Let's all put patches on our vest that say 2% like the like some of the bikers do with the 1% patch.
--Funny :)
1st watch in 023 for 17 April. A total of ten officers working the midnight shift. One two man car beat 2324. I know because im one of the ten. This is just ridiuculous and someone is going to get hurt.
--REFUSE to work 10-99
Isn't now the PERFECT time to address the residency issue?
--This is a legal issue; not a bargaining issue.
Find a lawyer willing to deal with it and let us know. I'm sure we can all jump on a class action suit.
I found it on one of the those ethnic web sites, check out the Polish American, Hispanic Police or Italian Police at iapa-il.org/news/news.htm
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Again I could not get on the FOP website to read the decision.
What would happen if all on duty police were to make an arrest at the same time? Ex. TVB, DOPW, ...
NORTHSIDE REDUX???
Got information from two sources that John Northen ("Northside") will be interviewed again about 8:30 AM Monday on the "Big John and Amy" show on WIND-AM 560 radio.
Also heard that other local media including both newspapers are now ignoring Northen's charge of cowardice. Did the Shortshanks COVER-UP machine get to our "vigilant" media? Are they "in bed" with Daley? If cornered, you can bet that they will try to discredit Northen as an insane, disgruntled former officer with a "vendetta" against J-Fled. Northen is as crazy as a fox and a super cop. All of us hate J-Fled for what he has done to our once proud CPD. We also know Northen speaks the truth.
Predictably, the spin machine is at full throttle with J-Fled claiming he's hitting the mean streets on hot nights. He missed his chance to catch a killer red-handed in Englewood. J-Fled will go to the grave as a coward.
I hope John
destroys this lying, treacherous coward. Why won't J-Fled respond with a news conference to explain why he "gotta run" from a fatal shooting only 45 seconds away? Everybody there heard the gunfire later followed by the sirens. The unidentified murderer got away. The first car from 007 didn't arrive until NINE (9) minutes after the shooting.
Did the coward ever define his "gear" that he just had to pick up at 3510 Michigan after he cut and run from the homicide? Was "gear" a grappling hook and infrared night vision goggles?
Can you confirm another radio appearance, Johnny Northside? We wouldn't want to miss it.
Ok, FOP! Whether it is your fault or not, you want to make up for this contractual ruling? Play fucking hard ball.
I know, it does not make us look good, but why the fuck should you care about how we are perceived? Both of know that we are inaccurately perceived by many politicians, reverends and citizens. So, what more is there to lose?
I say come up with a plan of action that really kicks City Hall in the balls.
You want to try to get some of our confidence back, then call the troops to take some action and support them.
There are a few things you can do that would not be an "illegal job action", if you formulate the right words to it.
If not, don't be surprised if the whole current FOP slate will be doing something else next year, other than working for the union.
Have some balls. It's time to take some chances and kick back at that fucking midget.
I have 8 years on and have made the annual salary of $68,262 since June of 2007. I calculated my retro to $9711 as of June 2010, assuming thats when they will approve the contract. 5-Franks calculations are correct as far as I can tell.
You have to compound the percentage raise for each year plus the previous year.
So for 1/2 of 2007 I should have made $34,472. I actually made $34,131 so the difference is $341
So for 2008 I should have made $71,013. I actually made 68262 so the difference is $2751.
For 2009 I should have made $72,433. I actually made $68,262 so the difference is $4171.
For 1/2 2010 I should have made $36,579. I actually made $34,131. The difference is $2448.
Add the differences up: 341+2751+4171+2448 = $9,711.
I believe this to be correct without any special or overtime just straight annual salary. If you see any glaring mistakes let me know.
You know what killed me was last night on Fox news they said that they CAN'T recruit people for the academy. They said they were going to make incentives. Are you kidding me? There are sooooo many people WAITING on lists to get in the academy and king richie WON'T let classes go through. How about getting the news right for once you media pukes!
In the 70's it was the public outcry as well as the physical presence of the wives,children, and mothers of police officers, addressing the mayor at city hall, who won the letter of agreement stating that no officers would be assigned to work alone during hours of darkness.
It was never contracted but was agreed upon.
Today's mothers, wives, and children are lacking in support of their significant others (not to omit: husbands or male partners where the case pertains)
Policing affects the entire family as well as friends and neighbors.
Unfortunately few persons seem to care anymore, we really do live in a society that is "bubble wrapped".
Sadly the police officers themselves do damage to their own ranks by allowing the 99 units to
expand on the sheets.
I know the argument about , "I'd rather work alone rather than with such a ####", but two are better than one in most instances.
Not all.
Slain police officers, shot at units, and aggravated battery victim P.Os have not caused any out cry to date.
What is it going to take?
This is a Fraternal Organization issue that MUST be addressed and activated now. Not tomorrow.
Police officers and their extended family as well as friends must demand safety.
The ASA office is also to be targeted and the strict enforcement of law must be approved as well as tried against all crimes where the victim is a police officer.
Return the zero tolerance UUW law before summer begins.
Do something.
Carping about a raise you did not get is a waste of energy.
My my my .Everything that was said on this blog months ago have come to pass. If the bought and sold reporters in this city want to know whats going on. THIS IS IT.
The police have unofficially stopped working. They will be standing around after the fact. Thats It. Thats all you get. This sadly is not an idle threat. When garbage collectors stop working it is the unbearable stench that is apparent for all to experience. Same caca with the police. The citizens will see the tipping point and it will be very obvious.
The gang bangers smell blood in the water. They will shoot your 99 ass in a second. If the gels continue to stick their asses out they will be stunned soon enough. No white shirt is your friend. Remember this or be in a state of denial till you pull the plug or someone does it for you. This city ,bosses, politicos, citizens and tourists do not like you. Now is time to show them what it would be like without you. Just sayin.
Where is this info coming from? I must have missed everyone on midnights in 003 working 99!!!!! That is not true they even have '06 cars up, on 1st watch.
Also 022 is not running 99 units on midnights 2211 was not even up 12,13 were 99 and no 2210.
I bet out of the 9764 D-1 officers Daley said we have, only 35% are assigned to beat cars. The others are working inside at 35th, inside at districts, on Tact, Gangs, TRU, MSF, etc. These officers don't handle radio jobs. So yes patrol is very, very short
" the police are seachimg for a suspect, Area _ detectives are investigating"....
Citizens, don't be fooled. Your Mayor hasn't hired more police to allow for investigations or search teams.
Try not to cal 9-1-1,
the remaining police that this city has will be too busy kicking the mayor around.
Gotta run.
I assume that the families of our brothers that were killed in the line of duty receive a retro check for the amount of time they worked under the current contract agreement. If so, Daley should have to hand deliver it to the Francis family and shamefully ask forgiveness for not hiring anyone in the past three years so Francis had to work 10-99 that night. J-Fled should have to hand deliver one to the Airhart family for allowing the fbi to let him lay there alone and bleeding for hours while trying to figure out how to cover up their ineptitude. Beale can deliver the checks to the families of our two brothers that we had to bury at St Bedes as maybe a learning experience of respect inbetween his efforts to strip our police dept down now that he is the head of the commission.
The citizens of Chicago are our employers. If the are happy with the number of P.O.s on the street, they will vote the current elected officials back into office.I don't think they would be happy if they actually knew how few P.O.s there were protecting them.
The contract is done. The Mayor has shown how he feels about us his entire tenure. Time to turn this Department into a political force to be reckoned with. You can sit back and whine, or you can do something about it.
The mayor won deal with it. Come next election day I will still see off duty cops standing outside of polling places pimping for the mayor and the democratic party.
9764 police officers...plus approximately 1271 sergeants...plus 175 leiutenants...plus 75 captains (please bear in mind that these are approximate numbers and I know that all have less numbers in the ranks); that equals 11285. I didn't know we had 2,215 exempt spots...
shorthanded....not enough people....politically connected and inexperienced bosses..."2 percenters" (recent contract award)....how about this, Mayor? We will come to work, respond to calls (as much as we can, given our shortages), complete our reports, make an arrest (maybe), then go home after work....the city, in the interim, can burn down (crime-wise)....it's your city, mayor
Officers on the medical and disability roll are retiring as well.
Anonymous said...
1st watch in 023 for 17 April. A total of ten officers working the midnight shift. One two man car beat 2324. I know because im one of the ten. This is just ridiuculous and someone is going to get hurt.
SCC where can we start faxing you the sheets and then maybe you can publish?
4/17/2010 12:40:00 AM
This is true. The WC requested all tact cars assist the 99 units on jobs. However publishing the sheets will do nothing. The brass and immediate bosses don't care and the media doesn't care. Remember the brass could care less about the manpower shortage or our shit contract. They make a lot more than us and many also have company vehicles. It's all about them and how they look and getting us to work in an unsafe enviornment bringing in the numbers.
i like the 2% patch idea. how about we get some pins instead. we can wear the pins next to the "Chicago Murder Captiol of The World" pins.
It's a shame and our superintendent is laughing his way to the bank and then runs away with there is shots fired. Pathetic.
Who cares?!
One job at a time. One job at a time.
maybe if the FOP starts a strong campiagn
We would be better off hiring street people.
me and a couple of guys spent our retro check yesterday we went to a good restaurant
I just sent Donahue an email asking how I can quit the FOP.
So what are we prepared to do?
You morons want change? Then we put all the bosses in one unionn with the PO'S-strength in numbers. It works for the fire dept, private sector, industry-and Daley would shit. Grow some balls and do this now or keep getting fucked by your all-Irish leaders.
We should all go to the FOP picnic on Wednesday 14 July then when you get sick from eating FOP’S bullshit sandwiches, hit the medical suffering from food poisoning. Three days on medical starting on 1st watch Thursday and flooding the medical section on Saturday and Sunday with rtd or extensions. We can’t strike but no boss can tell you, you don’t have diarrhea or stomach cramps and can’t come into work. Then we all go back to work and enforce every law on the books for two weeks giving the city a taste of what a happy motivated worker can do. Then back to doing nothing until we get the respect and pay and benefits we deserve. We can also hit the medical during the Bud Billiken/Air show weekend; they’ll have to call out the National Guard. It’s going to be such a long and hard 26 month road ahead for this city that our next contract will be settled in record time.
"1st watch in 023 for 17 April. A total of ten officers working the midnight shift. One two man car beat 2324. I know because im one of the ten. This is just ridiuculous and someone is going to get hurt."
DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THEY REALLY CARE IF YOUR INJURED OR MURDERED? SGT. HAYMAKERS DEATH SHOULD ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
LISTEN UP! AS A RETIREE WHO WORKED PRIOR TO ANY CONRTACT, SOME OFFICERS WERE KILLED OR SERIOUSLY INJURED AS A RESULT OF ONE MAN CARS AND SEVERE MAN POWER SHORTAGES. AS A RESULT, THE FOP HAD INCLUDED THE MANDATE OF TWO MAN CARS FROM DUSK TO DAWN. WE HAVE PAID WITH OUR BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS FOR THIS RIGHT WHICH CONTINUES TODAY. FORCE THE CITIZENS OF CHICAGO, THE SUPERINTENDENT, AND MAYOR TO REALIZE THE INHERENT DANGERS THAT NOW EXIST. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL OF THOSE OFFICERS WHO HAVE SACRIFICED BEFORE YOU TO REFUSE TO WORK A ONE MAN CAR.
I would also like to add that we as policeofficers don't use the contract.We prefer to work 99 so we don't get stuck working with an idiot.We do have rights u can refuse to work 99 u can request for a backup to every job u can do car that are not safe we can make saftey complaints God knows thier are alot these are a few of things we fought for in past contracts that aren't used. We can as awhole stop generating revenue for the city, but we don't work together me syndrome takes over
Yes our union sucks, But it always has. Even with our union ,.clout plays a role before they decide to help you when u have a problem. these are the people we voted for not once but twice so shame on us. So I'm challenging all Police Officers to do whats, right. Lets make this the best Polce Dept in the world, lets stick Together lets make are union, city, and citizens work for us make those saftey complaints down those unsafe vehicles. give the citizens a break don't worry about indexs or getting dump to midnights we all had to take are turn.
What he hell is CHI-Rack what a fucing retard.
alcohol testing, what are we getting now that we are giving something up! Big joke, I just can't wait to vote. WATCH OUT OFF-DUTY DRINKERS!!!!!
Shots fired at police tonight at South Shore Hospital while TRU, AREA 2 GUN TEAM, 004th District Beat cars were on scene investigating a man with gun call. Offender apprehended, and gun recovered after a short foot pursuit. The police are again targeted at a crime scene. Be safe out there. We are on our own.
4/17/2010 02:16:00 AM
I was wondering what happened over there.
5 Frank and the FOP have two different ways of factoring the retro check with a major difference in amount between the two. Anyone know which is more accurate? I just don't want to be screwed out of what little I get.
Anonymous said...
On the plus side, new sub-compact weapons are now available.
Only Kahr, Kel-Tec and Ruger.
I was hoping for a Walther PPK so I can be like James Bond.
4/17/2010 01:16:00 AM
B.F.D, pop- guns O.K'ed while the gangbangers get more AK's, brilliant decision, CPD Leaders, out of touch with reality, just like the Mayor/Dictator
Your own union has been dishonest with the number of coppers this city has. They are playing the numbers game along with Daley and Weis. Wake up people! It took an outside arbitrator to come out with the truth and now it's in writing. They can't ignore it any longer. Let's get that vote going, zero confidence in the current Fop, Lodge #7. The manpower shortage is a safety issue for Chicago Policemen and citizens of Chicago.
just saw the news. Weis is suiting up and hitting the streets?? I have been on a few different crime scenes and responded to numerous calls of shots fired, and I still havent seen him. Has anyone? How does he define "suitting up?" a new diaper? he is nothing more than a bullshitting pussy. I got tired of people defending Weis for his "gotta run". first of all...he never called in the shots fired he heard. there was not 3 cars already on the scene, Weis would of been the first car on the scene, if he went, able to render first aide and possibly apprehend the offender. Why did he "have to run"...The only "grandstanding" done that day was Weis pimping the media to do his little bit on the corner, attempting to show that he actually does something for his inflated salery. But no, it backfired. He is a pussy, who knows nothing about policing or the streets.
Do everyone a favor and step down!!!
“If I agreed to 16 percent, they had my word on 16 percent. But, union officials must have not trusted [it]. I’m their kicking boy
REALLY,YOUR WORD IS YOUR WORD? GO PEDAL THAT BULLSHIT TO ALL THE UNION PEOPLE YOU FUCKED WHEN YOU TOOK ALL THE HOLIDAY PAY FROM THEM. TELL THAT TO THE UNION PEOPLE YOU FUCKED WHEN YOU MADE THEM GIVE YOU 24 FURLOUGH DAYS EVEN AFTER THEY HAD A SIGNED CONTRACT. I'M SURPRISED YOUR NOSE DIDN'T GROW WHEN YOU WERE SPEWING THAT BULLSHIT.
I really do wish I had never accepted this job. It was one of the worst decisions I have made in my life.
Reading about aldermen excited about our meager pay raise was like a hard slap in the face. Policemen and women are not valued in this city, and the public's hatred for us is constantly fueled by politicians and the media.
My advice to all of my fellow officers is this. Get out. Get out of this city as quickly as you can. Find employment elsewhere. Start today.
There are places in this country where citizens greatly value their police officers. Where the vast majority of news coverage of the local department is positive. Where the public demands more equipment, resources, and pay for their officers.
Start doing your research today. Improve your quality of life. Get out.
Is there a way I can call finance and have them stop taking union dues out of my check I don't need this busted out union. Anyone know or maybe we can push to lower our dues they r useless and live the life on our dime!!!!!!!!!!
"DIVIDE AND CONQUER"
I was at a retirement party last night as were some members of the sergeants association. Needless to say, they had a smurk on their faces. That being said, they were not surprised by the arbitrators ruling, but stated it was a win for the sergeants association. It's a win because they feel the sergeants association and the city will NOT go to arbitration. They feel the sergeants will receive the 16% originally offered by the city. Also they have been looking for that D2A seperation and this arbitrators ruling virtually guarantees that if they get the 16%. The city wants to divide and conquer and so be it, thats what will happen. Not saying it's a good thing, but the sergeants will come out on top in this situation.
Remember the sergeants were the only people who DID NOT endorse that march around city hall.
Shots fired at police tonight at South Shore Hospital while TRU, AREA 2 GUN TEAM, 004th District Beat cars were on scene investigating a man with gun call. Offender apprehended, and gun recovered after a short foot pursuit. The police are again targeted at a crime scene. Be safe out there. We are on our own.
4/17/2010 02:16:00 AM
-------------------------------------Good response at South Shore Hospital with officers firing back at offender and making arrest and recovering gun. Never mess with the working police. Lt.D. on scene from A2 Gangs with the troops, one guy the working police can relate too.
Shots fired at police tonight,
Offender apprehended,
Stop taken these fuckers,Alive
A.Citizen
O.T. Was buried in the news. Shots fired at the police on the 15th at 85th and colfax. The shooter called in a man with a gun, waited for the P.O.s to show up and when they did a street stop, came out of a gangway and shot at the police and the crowd. The civilian standing next to the cop was shot in the neck.
4/17/2010 03:59:00 AM
More and more....this tactic is happening more and more, yet you have to be " physically fit " to carry an M4 on the street. But " fat " officers are responding to calls along with the " physically fit " officers. Real nice. Maybe the "fat " officers can at least have a shotgun. But no, that would make too much sense. Just sign me.......2%.(2 percent)
so if my math is correct 5,254 officers on this job (D1) have more than five but less than 15 years on the job. thats the bulk of this department.... watch out all you old timers..the new hair gel police have taken over....however if you came on the job between '96 -'04 good luck EVER getting promoted, suckers!!!!
dont worry.......
the mayor put MIKE PICARDI in with you guys.
he should account for at least 10 bodies.
who has the REAL figures for the retro checks? FOP lists one thing and 5 frank claims something different. What in the hell is going on?
go into datawharehouse and put the job title with an * for all units. As of the other day it was 9,300 and some odd officers. That included those still in the academy.
me thinks DonaHOE and boys are DONE! And I voted for them twice, shame on me. It will not happen again
What a cunning and conniving and clever and crafty and shrewed and sly smoke and mirror trick used by Arbitrator Benn to justify his award of 10 percent: The deceptive use of step raises and cost of living statistics to try to make you guys believe that you are receiving more than you actually receive!
And then to compound his deceptive trick, Benn says you guys are gettin' (he just about called them "bonuses") with the increase in duty availability and uniform allowances: Juggling the apples with the oranges and the lemons!! Ignoring the fact that the percent increase in annual wages is what really counts!
And what's with the crap about public safety officers can't be required to take days off without pay because their job is of an emergency nature? He knows damn well your work days and days off are guaranteed by contract. That's why Daley couldn't tell the blue shirts "You're taking 24 unpaid furlough days this year" like he did with the exempt rank!!
Hello SCC,
**PLEASE PUBLISH THIS ON THE MAIN PAGE**
**EVERYONE READ THIS AND CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XxDtNra9kk
Here is a short video of the problems with the Atlanta Police Department. Yes, the video is aboue 3 years old (from 2007), but when I watched it the other night on YouTube I INSTANTLY thought of Chicago. The video focuses on APD being UNDERSTAFFED in the Patrol AND DETECTIVE units and the horrible Attrition Rate of APD. It would be GREAT if someone with great production/computer skills could produce a video like this for the Chicago Police Department. The video shows problems with the APD that is EERILY SIMILAR to CPD. It's a great video and it would be EXCELLENT for the City of Chicago residents to see if one was made for Chicago Police Department. The attrition rate within the Chicago Police Department is even WORSE with the number of retirees and due to the city not having a test since 2006. I would REALLY LOVE for a video like this to be produced for the Chicago Police Deparment and spread to the masses...Again, if you find this interesting, PLEASE POST THIS ENTRY AND VIDEO ON THE MAIN PAGE...
**EVERYONE CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO LINK TO THE VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XxDtNra9kk
Great job from that 4th Dist car that ran back and reopened up a job to do a follow up on a domestic rather than do the paper for a fellow officer from your own district for a shots fired by Police!!Real Team player and a fine piece of work.Nice way to back up your guys.
003 cannot run 10-99 units on midnights because the W/C denies everyone time due. And its denied the day before so you can't even try to find someone to work for you. Unless its furlough (toss up) you aren't getting a night off in 003
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News today of an investigaton at the OEMC. IG states employee A should get a 30 day suspension and employee B should get 14 days.
TO LITTLE TOO LATE BUT "OUR" UNION SHOULD HAVE FORESEEN US GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS AND TOLD THE CITY TO SCREW ITSELF AND PUT OUT AS MUCH LITERATURE, POSTED BILLBOARD SIGNS, T.V ADS INSTEAD OF OBEYING THE "NO NEGOTIATING IN THE PRESS" RULE ETC TO SHED LIGHT ON WHERE ALL THE CITYS MONEY IS GOIN (DALEYS FRIENDS, ALDERMEN) AND HOW THEY CAN SAY THEY WERE BROKE. ALL MY BROTHER R RIGHT..NO MORE ACTIVITY FROM ME EITHER!
Hey, SCC
Take a look at page 105 of the contractual changes that were agreed to by the FOP. Specifically:
Section 16.2 Special Employment
Section A(1)-f: Reasons an officers is NOT eligible to work special employment...
f. The officer has been disqualified from participating in the program BASED IN HIS OR HER PERFORMANCE WHILE WORKING A SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT OR DEPARTMENT-PROCURED OUTSIDE EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT.
You do of course understand what that means, right?
The FOP, without public discussion or notification of it's membership, SIGNED AWAY SENIORITY RIGHTS TO WORK SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT and gave total control over who get's to work it to the department.
As of July 1st, the department will have sole discretion as to who they choose to assign to work special employment by dictating how much "output" or "performance" one will have to achieve in order to NOT be disqualified.
So, what will now happen is all those 30 yr vets working special employment will now quickly become "disqualified" from working it any longer because they aren't out locking people up for walking down the street, or writing tickets to put revenue back into the Daley's pocket.
Can you think of a better way to rid yourself of employees making top dollar around these parts OTHER than to take away the right to work special employment?
The FOP just BUTTFUCKED EVERY SENIOR OFFICER ON THIS JOB while simultaneously signing off of the illegal practice of QUOTAS to perform lest ye shall be denied a financial opportunity.
God I wish I worked special JUST so I could be the first one "disqualified" due to failure to fulfill an illegal quota.
Now THAT would be a great retirement gift!
The detectives weren't the only ones screwed over by the contract...told one thing and find out the union didn't even TRY to get what they said they were trying to get them.
FTO's got screwed too. They kept telling us..."we are trying to get you D2A pay...we should be able to get it!" Turns out the union didn't even bring that issue up during negotiations. Not that I think D2A pay will bring in better FTO's...but just another example of how the FOP has decided to lie to us.
How the HELL does the FOP expect to get anything decent for us all if they don't even ask for what we really want?????
Time for new blood at FOP.
THAT IS A GREAT POINT IF THE CITY BUDGETS FOR 13500 OFFICERS AND WE HAVE NOTHING NEAR THAT WHAT DOES HAPPEN TO THE MONEY???? WHY DOES NO ONE EVER QUESTION DALEY ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS
Thank You Everyone…
As President of The Police Survivors I need to take a moment here to thank all who came out to our Spring Fundraiser on the 15th of April. Thank you to the murchants who donated items, those who purchased raffel tickets or sent a donation and individuals who spread the word. I have to also thank our unknown authors who operate the following web sites for their genorsity in allowing this organization to post information: detective shavedlongcock: ispeeved: and second city cop. (my three personal favorites)
Lastly, the limited funds raised will benefit some law enforcement officer within the State of Illinois when he or she becomes the victim of a tramatic incident while on duty. So please keep: thepolicesurvivors.com in mind and visit our web site to inform us of incidents that occur within the state. This is the only way we are made aware of events.
Again, thank you to all, stay safe.
Officer Michael K. Lappe, CPD
President, the Police Survivors
4/17/2010 01:00:00 AM
Uh...have you forgotten that you live here in the city too? That's the right attitude, fuck everyone, fuck doing anything, while the city figuratively burns down around you, don't give a shit. You're an asshat.
Weis and Company will eventually be gone, Daley will either die or get indicted, and we'll still be the ones here.
We got fucked on this one, then VOTE and make sure we don't get fucked on the next one. And anyone who says don't do shit...go fuck yourself, and thanks for nothing!
Speaking of "counts", the Crate and Barrel wedding contest is closed and the Coles had the most votes with 21,000.
Hope they win.
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
"We need to start grassroot efforts to get cops & firemen to run and get out and do the work that is required to get them elected so they can tell the real story of what goes on."
There is a copper running to unseat Helen Shiller in Uptown.
His name is Michael Carroll and he is the working police. He will give us the support we need on the streets because he works with us on the streets! We have no voice in city hall and no one is looking out for us - not even the fop and it 2% a year.
Open you wallets, open your check books! He needs the money to throw this aldercritter out!
check him out! www.carroll46.com
Who cares if we are short? Just continue to work hard, lock people up and be proactive.
leave station, park, get called-handle job-leave scene- park. wait until called again. handle and repeat. it's a win for the city. let's all help out and not put unecessary miles on our fine cars we drive. policing by parking. it will be like having a satellite office on each beat. worked well for me today and from every day forward now.
Chi-raq is turning into Chi-ran!
4/17/2010 03:42:00 AM
AND J-FLED, who cares anymore!
GOTTA RUN!
Anonymous said...
Was Patrick Daley testifying at a Federal Grand Jury hearing?
Patrick Daley was never in Danger over seas.He's in hiding. Another thief who got involved with the mob.
A lot more to this story indeed
4/15/2010 11:16:00 AM
But this time he can parly with the bolchevics. He learned the language of the russian mob.
seen it all said...
Fudge the bosses. The ones in this organization could give two shits about what those in their command are having to put up with. This dept is like being detailed to a fudging air force base.
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Grow up. The word is FUCK. Also while I am schooling you, don't say bosses, that indicates you are a member of a chain gang. They are useless FUCKED up care only for themselves FUCK the blue shirt supervisors.
4/17/2010 05:17:00 AM
Thank you, brother! Tell it like it is. Fuck J-Fled and his crony DonnaHoe
8:08 AM
You are correct. I'm scheduled for a second interview on WIND-AM 560 radio Monday morning with "Big John and Amy" concerning the COWARD J-FLED (I just adore his new nickname). It's also true that editors for both the Sun-Times and Tribune have blown me off in a transparent attempt to cover up the cowardice of your "leader".
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12:12, 6:08, 8:34 and 10:46 AM regarding one person (10-99) squads during hours of darkness.
After leaving Fillmo' where I worked with one hell of a cop named Kenny Kaner, I was promoted to detective and before Homicide, I was initially assigned to the old Area 3 (Brighton Park, 3900 S. California Ave.) I spent most of my time in da 'Wood (007) and bumped into Kenny who had transferred in from 011.
In the early morning hours of Friday, June 19, 1970, Kenny was 10-99 and writing up a missing teen report in his squad parked at 74th and Union. In an ambush, he had his head blown clean off with a 12 gauge shotgun blast. Moments later, just before the "police officer shot" call aired, Carl Malik and Ed Brown, 007 Tac stopped five mutts at 71st and Union. In a incrediblely great pinch, they locked up all and recovered the shotgun and Kenny's revolver. The shooter will remain in prison until they carry him out in a pine coffin.
What's my point? The next night I PROUDLY witnessed a display of unity at 007 roll call which I will never forget. Despite the direct orders of the commander and the street deputy, all men refused to work 10-99. It worked. Within 24 hours, an order was issued that all beat cars city-wide must be manned by TWO officers during the hours of darkness. I was soooooooo fuckin' proud of those Englewood Rangers. The ringleader was Sgt. John (Italian name). Kenny's son Kurt remains on the job today.
That was then. This is now. Today, three coppers can't even agree on where to go to lunch. I pray that all you guys get your shit together.
The others are working inside at 35th, inside at districts, on Tact, Gangs, TRU, MSF, etc. These officers don't handle radio jobs. So yes patrol is very, very short.
4/17/2010 09:05:00 AM
They dont handle jobs and just create work for the watch commander, beefs for IPRA, and req. for supervisors, calls.
If you are going to come into my district; come to help; not create more work, simpletons.
I didn't know we had 2,215 exempt spots...
4/17/2010 09:43:00 AM
That's 2,190 too many!
Only 4 officers working midnights at O'Hare....including one man wagon too.....
OFF TOPIC
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/city-treasurer-threatens-defamation-suit-over-policeman%E2%80%99s-articles-documents/
Do not consider Shields for FOP president.
What about the 23 million taken from our pension?!
We need bumper stickers that says Daley Sucks!
Hey SCC, how about a SARCASTIC-laden post in order to lighten up the mood a tad. We could all use a laugh, now that we just got 'served'.
How 'bout "FELLOW COPPERS TIPS FOR MAKING IT THROUGH TO THE NEXT CONTRACT"
C'mon, this could be a gas. . .
Daley is the Man, He wins again. He always wins and we keep voting him in. Apathy
i like the 2% patch idea. how about we get some pins instead. we can wear the pins next to the "Chicago Murder Captiol of The World" pins.
4/17/2010 10:05:00 AM
And the gold star "Gotta run" pin
Obamas last day 1008 days away
new contract expires in 804 days
next mayoral election 310 days away
FYI
Vote out police haters
5 Frank and the FOP have two different ways of factoring the retro check with a major difference in amount between the two. Anyone know which is more accurate? I just don't want to be screwed out of what little I get.
4/17/2010 11:38:00 AM
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Aguilar posted an apology for the percentage format.
FOP was figuring their percentages based on your original (current) salary, without factoring in the fact that your 'base' salary goes up every year of the contract and the percentage is NOT based on your pre-contract salary.
Five-frank has it right.
And, remember, it won't be right, no matter what, if you have a step-raise in there. Neither of the website calculators can know if you had a step increase, so you'll have to estimate.
"LISTEN UP! AS A RETIREE WHO WORKED PRIOR TO ANY CONRTACT, SOME OFFICERS WERE KILLED OR SERIOUSLY INJURED AS A RESULT OF ONE MAN CARS AND SEVERE MAN POWER SHORTAGES. AS A RESULT, THE FOP HAD INCLUDED THE MANDATE OF TWO MAN CARS FROM DUSK TO DAWN."
CPD History: the CPD Wives Association marched on city hall several times in 1969 for 2-man cars in all Districts. The wives and kids carried signs such as "Mayor Daley, protect my Daddy while he protects you." This was in response to the Black Panthers’ “kill a pig a month” police murders in Chicago.
After a PO was assassinated, in uniform, in his one man car, while writing a report on the south side, the mayor, Rich J, caved in. The city wrote a letter to the Wives Association saying all units would be 2 man from dusk till dawn. The primary police club at the time was COP, Confederation of Police. FOP was an Area Four Det’s social (drinking) club at the time. FOP won the vote in 1979 and we got our first contract in the summer of 1980 from Mayor Jane B. FOP has never had a letter addressing 1or 2 man cars.
As an added note, of the police clubs wanting to represent us (COP, Combined Counties, Teamsters, Local 1975), the FOP was considered the most docile, most easily controlled by the city and least wanted by police officers. The vote came after the Firefighters strike. It was widely speculated that the city rigged the election because no one outside Area Four had ever heard of FOP and no District Officer citywide admitted to voting for FOP. Yes, Mayor Jane B did like the police, but she was smart enough to ensure the new police union would be weak.
Retired LT & former Cadet.
Nearly every news outlet is still referencing our "picketing" of city hall last year. They all show their anti-police bias by reporting us as out of control and chanting "Daley sucks" but I was there and I never heard it!
It must be like the few politicians who swear they were called the "N-word" by Tea party protestors, even though no one has provided audio or video "proof".
OT
Looks like the jealous types have blocked ChicagoCop.com again. Just another bump in morale for us. Why can't they leave shit alone and let us use something that helps make our jobs easier for a chance. The contract and now this.
4/17/2010 04:02:00 AM
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I doubt they're jealous. I think they just might be STUPID enough to confuse THAT site with THIS site!
I CANT AFFORD TO LIVE IN THE CITY ANYMORE!!!!! WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO????? I AM NOT GOING TO PUT MY FAMILY AT RISK LIVING IN ENGLEWOOD!! I HATE THIS CITY!
hope you all heard of the true story that a copper got pulled off his couch and made blow in 014. few weeks ago. all because of a nasty drunkin roomate. the policy is in full effect. so screw drinking in your hard, its in your house. weis aint stopping and neither is weis and company.
OT:
I know this is only a small amount but can someone tell me why i'm getting $1.25 taken out of every check for "police insurance?"
What is police insurance? It's right above the union dues line so i'm assuming it's something to do with the union.
Have no gripe if it's going toward something worth while. Just would like to know.
Thanks.
It's your life insurance which is going up from 25,000 to 75,000 thanks to the arbitartor.
4/17/2010 06:34:00 AM
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NOT, that is the widow's pension.
Anonymous said...
Lets go after residency now. we got screwed, this should be our next push. Fop, for what your worth take this one to court
Its already been to court,,,,, you lost by state law it is not part of negotiations it s a condition of your employment. it is a no win..... ever ...........period end of story
Time for the blue flu
OT: Article on J-Fled in the NYT's Chicago coverage:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/us/18cncweis.html
It mentions SCC and Sgt. Northen (whose name is misspelled as "Northern" in the article):
"When Mr. Weis, who has been given the nickname J-Fed by some officers, went to Englewood to hold a news conference on April 2, a shooting occurred a few blocks away as he was speaking to reporters. When Mr. Weis decided to return to headquarters instead of going to the scene of the shooting, John Northern, a retired Chicago police sergeant, publicly accused him of cowardice, and a police blogger started referring to him as “J-Fled.”"
GOOD IDEA !!!! My bro in law was a FF durung 1980 and he always said that the wives, kids and women of the CFD were the big force behind them. Some of them mad their hubyy go on the picket line. That they had more balls than some of the guys.
Come on Ladies get together and help us.........
OK, the contract is over. FOP can now redeem themselves in Springfield. We pay a lobbyist to not do anything down there...time for him to start earning that money. For just a moment forget your post-FOP clout jobs. Turn the screws on the legislature. There is absolutely no reason to continue to suck up to Madigan. There is legislation now to benefit three groups; 1) active POs: 2) retired POs; and 3) last and certainly least in the minds of the FOP, duty disabled officers.
Get to work and earn your inflated salaries!
ope you all heard of the true story that a copper got pulled off his couch and made blow in 014. few weeks ago. all because of a nasty drunkin roomate. the policy is in full effect. so screw drinking in your hard, its in your house. weis aint stopping and neither is weis and company.
4/17/2010 10:47:00 PM
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Dude, I think you should be made to blow before typing on your computer...
It's your life insurance which is going up from 25,000 to 75,000 thanks to the arbitartor.
4/17/2010 06:34:00 AM
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NOT, that is the widow's pension.
`Oh Not, it IS your insurance
"C'mon, this could be a gas. . .
4/17/2010 07:47:00 PM"
hasn't there been enough 'gas' expelled from da midget's mouth and his deformed lackey's piehole lately?
"Do not consider Shields for FOP president.
4/17/2010 07:42:00 PM"
and why, pray tell, not?
"And anyone who says don't do shit...go fuck yourself, and thanks for nothing!
4/17/2010 04:00:00 PM"
YOU'RE WELCOME NOW STFU, & GO BACK TO POLISHING YOUR SHOES & CLEANING YOUR M4 COMPANY SUCKASS UNDOUBTEDLY A WHITESHIRT!!
Anonymous said...
hope you all heard of the true story that a copper got pulled off his couch and made blow in 014. few weeks ago. all because of a nasty drunkin roomate. the policy is in full effect. so screw drinking in your hard, its in your house. weis aint stopping and neither is weis and company.
4/17/2010 10:47:00 PM
I cal bullshit on this one. But if true, why did he open the door? Once he looked outside and saw who it was, he should have just ignored them. What are they gonna do, kick in the door? They don't have a warrant either, so f*ck 'em. Even if the roomate let them in, go in your bedroom and close the door. You have an expectation of privacy in your own home.
As for the roomate, at the very least, he/she would be an ex right about now.
Anonymous said...
I really do wish I had never accepted this job. It was one of the worst decisions I have made in my life.
Reading about aldermen excited about our meager pay raise was like a hard slap in the face. Policemen and women are not valued in this city, and the public's hatred for us is constantly fueled by politicians and the media.
My advice to all of my fellow officers is this. Get out. Get out of this city as quickly as you can. Find employment elsewhere. Start today.
There are places in this country where citizens greatly value their police officers. Where the vast majority of news coverage of the local department is positive. Where the public demands more equipment, resources, and pay for their officers.
Start doing your research today. Improve your quality of life. Get out.
4/17/2010 12:08:00 PM
Don't get mad, GET EVEN. Use your head, make them pay. And pay and pay and pay. Yeah, "Huge Win" for the City. Let them see what a pissed off work force can and can't do.
Its already been to court,,,,, you lost by state law it is not part of negotiations it s a condition of your employment. it is a no win..... ever ...........period end of story
4/17/2010 11:15:00 PM
Not true. You can get the law changed if you work at it. Oh, wait. Most cops aren't registered to vote and only bitch on the blog but never want to do any heavy lifting.
Never mind.
Thank God for John Northen. They would have to cut his heart out to silence him. Daley and J-Fled are bullies who can't handle the truth.
I've said it before. The local news media is in Shortshanks hip pocket.
Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/city-treasurer-threatens-defamation-suit-over-policeman%E2%80%99s-articles-documents/
Do not consider Shields for FOP president.
4/17/2010 07:42:00 PM
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Are you fucking kidding me?
You must be the stupid bitch Stephanie Neely herself!
Mike Shields is a fine upstanding man. He has ehtics and principles beyond those of anyone within the Daley administration.
MIKE SHIELDS FOR FOP PRESIDENT!
MIKE SHIELDS FOR FOP PRESIDENT!
FUCK DALEY, FUCK DALEY, FUCK DALEY!
FUCK J-FLED, FUCK J-FLED, FUCK J-FLED!
FUCK MASTERS, FUCK MASTERS, FUCK MASTERS!
Anonymous said...
Is there a way I can call finance and have them stop taking union dues out of my check I don't need this busted out union. Anyone know or maybe we can push to lower our dues they r useless and live the life on our dime!!!!!!!!!!
4/17/2010 12:29:00 PM
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Very smart move. Until the first time you get a beef, get sued, need a lawyer. Why do you think there are only five fair share members?
The guy living a cross the alley works for Streets and San took 24 unpaid furlough days last year and lost 8 out of the 13 holidays. They have been told they be only working 4 days a week soon.
That's a 20% pay cut!
We forced FOP to picket City Hall an Shortshanks took the raise off the table. We rolled the dice.
Take that energy to political work and we can do damage in the next election.
Yes our union sucks, But it always has. Even with our union ,.clout plays a role before they decide to help you when u have a problem. these are the people we voted for not once but twice so shame on us. So I'm challenging all Police Officers to do whats, right. Lets make this the best Polce Dept in the world, lets stick Together lets make are union, city, and citizens work for us make those saftey complaints down those unsafe vehicles. give the citizens a break don't worry about indexs or getting dump to midnights we all had to take are turn.
4/17/2010 11:24:00 AM
Whenever you have union organizing the issue and hurdle is getting workers to join. It seems the reverse is true in this case. Couldn't you all just leave the FOP and start a "real" union?
After you all register to vote en masse, that is.
Just asking.
---not a cop
OFF TOPIC
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/city-treasurer-threatens-defamation-suit-over-policeman%E2%80%99s-articles-documents/
Do not consider Shields for FOP president.
4/17/2010 07:42:00 PM
Why? What the fuck is wrong with you? THAT is EXACTLY who you want to have shaking things up stupid.
The board has been in a coma for years. This fucking bitch can complain all she wants, there is a conflict of interest.
You people are bi-polar.
"DIVIDE AND CONQUER"
I was at a retirement party last night as were some members of the sergeants association. Needless to say, they had a smurk on their faces. That being said, they were not surprised by the arbitrators ruling, but stated it was a win for the sergeants association. It's a win because they feel the sergeants association and the city will NOT go to arbitration. They feel the sergeants will receive the 16% originally offered by the city. Also they have been looking for that D2A seperation and this arbitrators ruling virtually guarantees that if they get the 16%. The city wants to divide and conquer and so be it, thats what will happen. Not saying it's a good thing, but the sergeants will come out on top in this situation.
Remember the sergeants were the only people who DID NOT endorse that march around city hall.
4/17/2010 12:35:00 PM
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You are a MORON!! Do you honestly think the Sgts are going to get the 16%?? You're outta your mind! Mark my words, we will get the same as the P.O.'s. Although the seperation between detectives and Sgts should be bumped up to what it was before Donahue worked in the D2A step to take care of a minority of the Police Officers he supposedly represents.
P.S. I was at the march along with several Sgts and a Lt from my district, so you can stick that "us against them" theory up your ass!
Anonymous said...
The detectives weren't the only ones screwed over by the contract...told one thing and find out the union didn't even TRY to get what they said they were trying to get them.
FTO's got screwed too. They kept telling us..."we are trying to get you D2A pay...we should be able to get it!" Turns out the union didn't even bring that issue up during negotiations. Not that I think D2A pay will bring in better FTO's...but just another example of how the FOP has decided to lie to us.
How the HELL does the FOP expect to get anything decent for us all if they don't even ask for what we really want?????
Time for new blood at FOP.
4/17/2010 03:12:00 PM
Think about it. The department does not care about the FTO program. Why do you blame the FOP? Weiss and masters gave lip service to FTO's and never made the program a priority. Look at the previous history with the FTO program? What has Weiss changed or acomplished for FTO's? They fired a few otherwise nothing. Now that we won the law suit the department must give us back pay and hours. Cuello will not support any changes to improve the program. I will take the back pay and stay in my beat car. All bullshit.
"Today's mothers, wives, and children are lacking in support of their significant others (not to omit: husbands or male partners where the case pertains)"
Thanks for not omitting us. We support each other always.
FOP was bought off or fucking stupid. Either way its time for a change.
4/17/2010 12:04:00 AM
This reminds me of a Robert Deniro quote in the Casino Movie.
"Listen, if you didn’t know…, you’re too fuckin’ dumb to keep this job. If you did know, that means you were in on it. Either way, you’re out. Get out!"
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIpRvBQ-dOU&feature=player_embedded#!
Someone needs to spearhead the decertification of the FOP!
Enough is Enough!!!
"And anyone who says don't do shit...go fuck yourself, and thanks for nothing!
4/17/2010 04:00:00 PM"
Don't do shit! Don't do shit! Don't do shit!
Boss, I tried to fuck myself in the past and I just couldn't do it; I'm Irish, you know.
And you are welcome for nothing. I look forward to being thank by you for nothing repeatedly. I am glad you are grateful for my nothing. There is a whole lot more of nothing to come.
And, I just tried to fuck myself again...just not happening...I'm pretty sure it's because I'm Irish.
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/city-treasurer-threatens-defamation-suit-over-policeman%E2%80%99s-articles-documents/
Do not consider Shields for FOP president.
4/17/2010 07:42:00 PM
SO SHIELDS GETS SUED FOR EXPOSING THE CITY TREASURER'S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AND VOTING PRACTICES ON OUR PENSION FUND AND YOU WRITE DON'T CONSIDER HIM. WHO'S THIS? THE CITY TREASURER? STAY OFF THE BLOG NEELEY!
sgts union may receive 12 - 14 % raise , but will not get paid health care at 55 for retirement and will lose 45 minutes a day in overtime
da sup and mayor know they don't stay over to sign reports anymore ,it 's all on computer during their tour
WHY WOULD ANYONE STICK AROUND FOR A 1% RAISE. IT'S PART OF DALEYS MASTER PLAN....
There are 11 dets in Area 1 on midnights. 1 det works the desk, leaving 10 street dets. There are 6 day off groups. Do the math. There are usually about 4-6 dets working a night. When people are on furlo, or use comp time, there has been nights there where 2 or 3 people working. This is midnights in Area 1! Come summertime they will take 5/6 people by reverse seniority, or bid, from the other watches to work midnights in the 6th, 7th, and 8th periods. Happens every year. How can anyone at 35th Street say we aren't short dets?
9764 police officers...plus approximately 1271 sergeants...plus 175 leiutenants...plus 75 captains (please bear in mind that these are approximate numbers and I know that all have less numbers in the ranks); that equals 11285. I didn't know we had 2,215 exempt spots...
Start off with 214 Lts., not 175. Capts. 69, not 75. Now add in detectives, ET's Marine unit, Mounted Unit, Bodyguards, FTO's, Forensics, Police Agents and some other job title codes. Before the 15th there were a total of 12,800 sworn, including aproximately 80 Exempts. Will look in a day or two when they update the retireees, but these are the corrent numbers.
Anonymous said...
NEVER EVER Work 10-99 at night!
4/17/2010 12:12:00 AM
What about your Sgts? I have been 99 for 5 1/2 years. I worked in 007, 010 & 011..... How about getting me a partner? Keep your heads up, put away that f**kin' phone and keep your gun clean and oiled. Im right there with you! Back each other up and be safe!
Anonymous said...
Mayor Daley and FOP have turned a once proud hard working police force into underpaid whipping boys and girls. I'm done! What are you gonna do send me to 10th dist on midnights? I'm already there !!!!
4/17/2010 12:56:00 AM
Quit talking like 010 is the worst place you can be..... Now say 007, 004, 006, 011, 015 etc... and maybe someone will listen.... "Marquette Ranger" for life.... 010 District Officers need to stop whinning.... The list is long for those who wish to transfer in.....
“Someone needs to spearhead the decertification of the FOP!”
Someone? Don't you mean "Someone other than me?"
Why does it always have to be someone else? If you want it done, roll up your damn sleeves and get on it. Stop wishing for someone else to do it for you.
You're a police officer, someone who's supposed to be a leader, someone who's supposed to take action. What's stopping YOU?
"Yesle nye ya, to kto?"
"If not me, then who?"
- Unofficial motto of the Russian counter-terrorist team Alpha
Anonymous said...
FOP was bought off or fucking stupid. Either way its time for a change.
4/17/2010 12:04:00 AM
This reminds me of a Robert Deniro quote in the Casino Movie.
"Listen, if you didn’t know…, you’re too fuckin’ dumb to keep this job. If you did know, that means you were in on it. Either way, you’re out. Get out!"
Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIpRvBQ-dOU&feature=player_embedded#!
Someone needs to spearhead the decertification of the FOP!
Enough is Enough!!!
4/18/2010 11:47:00 AM
Right.
Then what would you do for a contract? The current contract is with the City of Chicago and the Fraternal Order of Police. The FOP is the bargaining agent for those sworn members below the rank of Sgt.
You decertify the FOP and get a new bargaining unit (like PB&PA or Teamsters) they can start from scratch on negotiating a contract. Do you think the City will just hand a new police union the old FOP contract and say, "OK boys, you can start off with this one." No way, that contract took 30 years to negotiate, another union would never get all the stuff in there, the City won't make the same mistakes again.
Best of luck. I think a lot of people don't know when they have it good. Get some gratitude for what we have, try to improve for sure, but in the meantime, realize we have it pretty good, all in all.
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