Crime Down Again!
We heard that the CPD is actually importing crime nowadays just to keep up appearances:
Even as violent murders and beatings make headlines across Chicago, police Supt. Jody Weis said violent crime is down 11 percent in the city and the murder rate so far this year is below the five-year average for the same time period.
"While the public perception is that violence has increased to unprecedented levels, the facts do not support that conclusion," Weis said today.
So it's the media's fault that the "perception" of crime is up? Wow. And this?
Homicides and motor vehicle thefts increased this year compared to the same time period last year. Other categories, including criminal sexual assault, robbery, arson and aggravated battery, saw decreases of 5 percent to 20 percent, police said.
Homicides increased 8 percent from Jan. 1 to April 30, compared with the same time period last year, from 111 to 120 slayings, in part because of a spike of violence in April, Weis said.
You mean during that warm spell? Are we due any warm days soon? And that opening paragraph had this ridiculous statement:
The more we see this guy spout statistics, the more we wonder. There were a dozen comments on the BreakingNews site and just about every one of them has a problem with J-Fled's numbers. We don't think we're imagining things - cops are trained BS detectors and we've been redlining since J-Fled got here.
- ...the murder rate so far this year is below the five-year average for the same time period.
The more we see this guy spout statistics, the more we wonder. There were a dozen comments on the BreakingNews site and just about every one of them has a problem with J-Fled's numbers. We don't think we're imagining things - cops are trained BS detectors and we've been redlining since J-Fled got here.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
53 Comments:
BULLFUCKINGSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Even as violent murders and beatings make headlines across Chicago?
Are you kidding?
Try across the state, country and world. From MSNBC to CNN to BBC.
IT DOESNT MATTER R FEARLESS LEADER IS GOING TO GET A PAY CUT AND AN EXTENSION.
WHY DOES HE THINK NOBODY CAN FIGURE OUT HE IS BULLSHITTING THE STATS.
WHY WOULD HE DO THE LAST 5 YEARS HE WASNT EVEN HERE FOR HALF OF THEM!
ONLY MURDER!
WHATS NEXT J-FLED SAYING NEW YORK ONLY HAD A FEW TERRORIST ATTACKS!
DOES HE THINK THESE STATS R NORMAL FOR A CITY COMPARED TO A WAR ZONE.
I WISH THE MEN AND WOMEN RETIRING WELL. BECAUSE THE REST OF US R IN FOR A COLON CLEANSING WITH NO GLOVE OR LUBE.
"the murder rate so far this year is below the five-year average for the same time period." And if he can't water down the stats with five years next time he will go for 20 year average. That way medical science won't factor in as much..
No offense, but police officers can't stop crime. No right thinking people expect that. Police officers should not worry about that. Just respond and don't stress out so much.
Don't blame the boss, blame the R&D director. That office provides the official stats to the superintendent.
Jason said...
No offense, but police officers can't stop crime. No right thinking people expect that. Police officers should not worry about that. Just respond and don't stress out so much.
5/10/2010 12:41:00 AM
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Okay, Jason. We'll all use our spare time to take yoga classes and go sailing, so we can chill.
Ok. Then they can make a Sgt. and detectives class.
Someone has a pretty sharp pencil at 35th street.
and yet another asswipe comment from Jason....
"No offense, but police officers can't stop crime. No right thinking people expect that. Police officers should not worry about that. Just respond and don't stress out so much."
a hearty GFY, to you masters, there is no proactive policework and the real police are frazzled running from job to job, stats are crooked and you are a fucking jagoff.
Like I said anybody believing in this guys bullshit stats grew up dancing around in a tutu throwing rose petals in the air, la la la la!
...and the cozzi tape was the wosrt beating he ever saw. bawhahaha
I'm glad Jason has blessed us with his infinite wisdom and composure.
/sarc
Blame R&D? All they do is provide the raw numbers, Weis and his policy group are the ones who spin them. You moron.
yOU CAN PLAY WITH NUMBERS TO MAKE ANY CONCLUSION YOU WANT. THEY CHOSE A FIVE YEAR AVERAGE TO MAKE THEIR POINT, NEXT TIME THEY MAY CHOOSE A 12 YEAR AVERAGE...SMOKE AND MIRRORS. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.."
I'm so fucking tired of percentages.. Show the public the numbers behind the clame. The real number of how many crimes took place during that time. The public hears 6% and can't do anything with it because they don't know what numbers they're dealing with.
Truth is they control the media, statistics and most of the voters. You are never going to change shitcago or crook county. Its theirs leave them have it. Take what you can and leave.
"And overall crime was down 6.9%"
But last month he reported the number was at 14.8% so it appears that there is an increase. But as everyone says, it is all 'smoke and mirrors"
last months story
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/04/sexual-assault-down-murder-up.html
Warm weather and murder has Chicago police looking at more ways to combat crime, according to a statement.
Crime in the city declined last month in every category except murder, Supt. Jody Weis said today as he discussed preliminary crime data for March.
Overall violent crime -- which includes sexual assault, aggravated assault, aggravated battery and robbery -- decreased 14.8 percent over last March, but homicide rose about 4.3 percent for the same period, police said.
Aggravated assault saw the biggest drop of 20.4 percent, followed by criminal sexual assault, which was down by 17.6 percent, police said. Arson was down 17.3 percent in March, and burglary dipped by 1.2 percent. Police also recovered 2,076 weapons through the end of March, which was more than last year at that time.
Whatever!! When I used to work at this northside District, I've been told by the REVIEW OFFICE and NOT by the Sgt. to changed the original UCR code to something else like Burglary to Criminal Trespass, Criminal Sexual Assault to Simple Battery, or Robbery to Theft.. I guess the District Commander doesn't want the Citizens to know that there's actually crime that are happening in their backyards..
Off topic: There is a movement to start getting control over lawyers. The government would set flat rates lawyers can charge. That way justice is served rather than greed. Lets face it law is the biggest scam going. Lawyers make money on both sides of every issue, most of which they create. The Constitution dosent promise free health care but it does promise equal protection under the law. No lawyer should make more money than the average teacher, they should do it for the love of their profession.
I can turn lead into gold for my next trick.
Um,no.
Crime is up this city is going down the tubes......
I live in Mt Greenwood and can tell you crime is up here lots of burglaries and robberies and teens throwing rocks and eggs at cars as they drive down Kedzie and Central Park.
"if it wasn't for the murders, this would be a nice place to live"
Chicago is rated as one of the worst and most dangerous places to live in the US
Yea when I bought my house it cost 359,000 2 years ago and I want to move out and now I'm being told its only worth 255,000 and I thought Mt Greenwood would be a good place to live. Crime is up and home values are down.
Pretty soon they will have to revert back to 90's murder rate to justify a falling murder rate today!
"The more we see this guy spout statistics, the more we wonder. "
He's a fed... from the fbi.... thtas what they do; play with numbers, because its more than apparent its not doing REAL POLICE WORK, too chickenshit for that!
Jason said...
No offense, but police officers can't stop crime. No right thinking people expect that. Police officers should not worry about that. Just respond and don't stress out so much.
5/10/2010 12:41:00 AM
Jason, no offence, but we wont! Let us know when its YOU getting YOUR ass handed to you in the form of (aggravated) battery, theft, (strong) armed robbery, homicide, (aggravated) criminal sexual assault…
We’re going to try to not stress out so much when the understaffed Patrol Division will take 30 minutes to get to you in your time of need.
Simply let us know and we won’t get too stressed out over the fact that the undermanned Detective Division can’t clear your case with an arrest.
We won’t get too stressed when your case gets a FNPC or a Not Guilty from a hack judge or gets fucked up by an incompetent ASA, or when 12 people not smart enough to get out of jury duty and watch too much CSI don’t believe you and feel sympathetic towards the offender of your special crime.
Not to worry, we wont “stress out so much” as you poignantly put it, not one bit.
WHEW… I feel better already, like a load lifted off my shoulders…
You dumbass….
Stats don't mean much to me. You make numbers appear any which way you want them to show whatever you want to show. Another words....smoke and mirrors once again from on top! Must've been a bean counter doing someones job to show good things are happening in Chicago. This so the tourist don't stop coming. Wait until they see the attendance from the Taste. No surprise there...less people will show up. I keep wondering why.....
The police can not prevent crime, they only can control what can be controlled. Its people that can control themselves in not having to use deadly force to make a point. They should just walk away...
Violent crime is down. Way, way, way down over the past 10 years.
If there are 550 or 650 or even 700 murders this year, it would be big news, but it would still be very low compared to 1990-1995.
The truth is that the police have very little direct impact on violent crime. A certain segment of the population is violent and will commit violent crimes irregardless of the police or the legal consequences of their actions.
What the police can control are general disorder problems. Gangs of thugs, drug dealers, drunks, aggressive panhandlers, thieves, etc...
What happens is when these general disorder problems go unresolved, criminals become more daring. They tend to push the limit, and when they see each other pushing the limit, they each go even further. But, this process doesn't happen over night, it takes years, even decades. And our department has really stopped proper policing en masse in just the last 5 years.
Crime went up in the early 90's because of decades of going soft on robbers and drug dealers. UUW's were all misdemeanors.
Armed Robbers got 1-3 years and even most murderers got only 10-20 years. The crack boom was all these violent criminals needed to get off the sidelines and into the game. After the early 90's the police cracked down, especially on drug dealers. And slowly, but surely, violent crime went down. BUT IT TOOK YEARS!
That's all changed.
The people of this city can "feel" the increase in these general disorder crimes. There are no stats to gage them, but people see this disorder ever day. A drug dealer and an armed felon don't become a "stat" until they get arrested. And even then, they aren't counted as a violent crime stat.
Most people are not shot at or robbed, but more and more people feel the intimidation of thugs walking city streets with absolutely no fear of the police.
What the mayor and the plaintiff lawyers and the opportunistic aldermen have done is turn the department completely around. The effects of what they have done won't be felt this year or next year, but by 2015 you can bet your ass that the violent numbers will start to show what everyone can see with their own eyes today.
Who has a press conference on a sunday that is mothers day? This fabrication of current conditions was supposed to get lost and for the most part it did. Bringing those clueless exempts on this particular sunday is a no class move but we have grown to expect it with this clown. As far as the numbers go maybe he can compare the current 5 year time frame against the period 1890-1895. And for Christ sake tuck the fucking shirt in and wear a tie you inbred hillbilly!
Not where I live on 2211's Beat!!!! Kings moving in and selling at MG Park.
major bull fucking shit!!!
I thought Mt Greenwood would be a good place to live
And your right it is the best place to live in the city hands down.
live in Mt Greenwood and can tell you crime is up here lots of burglaries and robberies and teens throwing rocks and eggs at cars as they drive down Kedzie and Central Park.
I live on the north side and can't say I have ever been to Mt Greenwood but from what I have reed on this blog I can't say that it is a place I would live.
Kings moving in and selling at MG Park.
There is etching on some of the playground equipment that says LK
There aren't enough police to report all the crime affecting our citizens. Our citizens call and when we don't show up to take a report it goes unreported. Crime is down.
Now homicides on the other hand are reported because the deceased isn't going anywhere. Hence the rise in 0110s
/10/2010 12:41:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Don't blame the boss, blame the R&D director. That office provides the official stats to the superintendent.
5/10/2010 01:33:00 AM
And get dumped for telling the truth? No way, Ray.
You never tell the emperor he has no cloths on.
5/10/2010 01:33:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Jason said...
No offense, but police officers can't stop crime. No right thinking people expect that. Police officers should not worry about that. Just respond and don't stress out so much.
5/10/2010 12:41:00 AM
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Okay, Jason. We'll all use our spare time to take yoga classes and go sailing, so we can chill.
5/10/2010 05:52:00 AM
or you can masturbate in the squad car like a retired LT used to do.
To funny, is this a joke or what... Crime down... LOL
O.K., this Jason,he is just trying to bust your balls,ignore him and he will go away.Yes, Jason I'm a hater.
Ray Charles (RIP) can see that j-fled forcefully expelled these numbers out of his ass even with the benefit of being both blind and dead!
Crime is down based on five year averages?? O_o
YET AGAIN!
THE SMARTEST SUPERINTENDENT AND EXEMPT CADRE EVER IN CPD HISTORY HAVE PROVEN AGAIN THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS AND ARE FLAT FUCKIN' OUT OF IDEAS!
Is there anybody in charge with a shred of conscience and integrity left?
Do you muthafuckahs sleep in coffins or hanging upside down?
Hate us if it makes you feel better, j-fled & co., but at least the Policeman in all his imperfections has SOME standing to plead his case before The Almighty on the day of judgement.
FIVE YEAR AVERAGES?
Just nether-worldly numerical fuckery.
355 grand for a house in Mt Greenwood? You must have plenty of room to store all of your jorts
Anonymous said...
Not where I live on 2211's Beat!!!! Kings moving in and selling at MG Park.
5/10/2010 02:37:00 PM
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Not for long they aint!
My 5 year old told me "that man is lying, I hear how you tell mom how busy you are at work Daddy"
If a 5 year old can see it, it just shows how much the media in this town is in Daley's pocket.
"the murder rate so far this year is below the five-year average for the same time period." And if he can't water down the stats with five years next time he will go for 20 year average. That way medical science won't factor in as much..
5/10/2010 12:16:00 AM
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So the lady who claimed the PODS do work .... does she have anything to say about all this?
Off topic: There is a movement to start getting control over lawyers. The government would set flat rates lawyers can charge. That way justice is served rather than greed. Lets face it law is the biggest scam going. Lawyers make money on both sides of every issue, most of which they create. The Constitution dosent promise free health care but it does promise equal protection under the law. No lawyer should make more money than the average teacher, they should do it for the love of their profession.
5/10/2010 08:56:00 AM
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Ya, and if the lawyer does make a lot of money the gov't should step in, just like Chavez in that shithole, 3rd world South American country ... 'cause that's the law man.
Moron.
As stated in the article, violent murders are up. That leads one to believe that there must be non-violent murders as well.
I wonder if the victim knows the difference?
Anonymous said...
Blame R&D? All they do is provide the raw numbers, Weis and his policy group are the ones who spin them. You moron.
5/10/2010 08:06:00 AM
Raw? Please. I work there. I should know. Keep drinking the coolaid.
My Sgt told me the other day that I had too many jobs on my late list .... I then told him that, compared to five years ago, I was actually making improvements.
He then slapped the shit out of me.
Kings moving in and selling at MG Park.
There is etching on some of the playground equipment that says LK
5/10/2010 04:56:00 PM
Dam Larry King was there and I missed him!
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