Arizona Law Fallout
- Andres Dominguez and sister Andrea Palacios (R), residents of Phoenix help carry out the sold family items out of their apartment. The family sold everything they owned in order to leave Arizona without being detected and fearing the passage of the new SB 1070 law. The family of ten is moving to Chicago where they feel they will not be targeted because of the color of their skin.
Let's just read that again:
- The family of ten is moving to Chicago where they feel they will not be targeted because of the color of their skin.
Leaving aside the fact that the Arizona law never targeted anyone for the color of their skin (it only permitted Arizona officials to check immigration status when people were stopped for other offenses - which was allowed under existing US statutes anyway), there is now a family of ten illegals headed to Chicago with no job prospects in a state with an unemployment rate hovering near 11%.
Don't worry though. There's plenty of free education, health care, housing and who knows what other subsidies awaiting their arrival. Right taxpayers?
Don't worry though. There's plenty of free education, health care, housing and who knows what other subsidies awaiting their arrival. Right taxpayers?
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posted by SCC at 1:03 AM
131 Comments:
Looks like there's gonna be a few new faces pushing Elotes carts down 26th Street in the very near future.
Not to mention a few more kids that don't speak a lick of English sucking-up resources in the CPS system to "catch up"...while our kids are further deprived amenities afforded to these illegal, non-taxpaying leeches.
They'll be coming in droves, folks. God news travels fast, so expect the "El Conejo" at 22nd & California to be open around the clock, as busload after busload of illegals flock to the "Sanctuary City".
If anyone had hope that the last few neighborhood strongholds would last, I predict 5-10 years before this whole city looks like 26th Street.
Just make sure you keep pulling a straight Democrat ticket come election time. Learn to assimilate with your new neighbors, and be prepared for "Spanish As A Second Language" to be mandatory curriculum at all public schools in the very near future. You've always said knowing more than one language would help when it came time for a career...
I love how whenever someone is wrong, or got caught doing something they shouldn't they say "it's because the color of their skin" just to deflect or create "politically correct feelings" and hope they draw attention away.
Maybe the new arrivals from Arizona will bring the proud Mexican practice of kidnapping along with them and we’ll no longer have to suffer the shame of lagging so far behind Phoenix in this respect.
Chicagp just spiked on foreclosures, these ten might rent somewhere and thus occupy a place keeping it from foreclose, signed the police, white sputhside worker/ apartment owner...;)
D'oh!
The family of ten is nuts to leave warm Arizona for cold Chicago.
I will be glad to sponsor them. When applying for residency/citizenship, most applicants need a sponsor that can produce evidence of steady employment. Based on my income, I am allowed to sponsor
8 -10 individuals. I have sponsored in the past and will gladly, do it again. The family of 10 are Latinos, a good majority of Latinos work and tend to work hard regardless, if they are legal/illegal.
Yes, I understand the typical response that I will receive. All the white people came here legally and learned to speak english...yadda, yadda, yadda. However, that was after your people stole the land and continued to steal more and more of it.
It is now our chance to come here, educate ourselves, grow and enable future generations of Latinos to progress.
I believe the issue is that white people believe they are slowly losing control of "their" country.
Now before you get your undies in a bunch, understand that I am a fourth generation American. English is my first language. I am educated. I consider myself American then Mexican.
We must agree that we cannot use blanket statements. Every stereotype holds some truth or else it wouldn't be a stereotype!
There are good and bad people in all groups. There are good cops and bad cops. Good cops do not like being labeled as bad cops- alongside cops such as ABBATE.
One stereotype of Latinos is that they are cheap labor and hard workers. Why was it okay to bring Mexicans to pick crops during the mid-1900's? Only to want to send them back after utilizing their services... typical of the United States - opportunists.
Respectfully,
1976
Let them all come here. Hell, go one step further. Bring all the illegals, repeatedly convicted felons, murders, drug dealers, gang bangers and the rest of societies dirt bags. Let them live with shortshanks, anita alvarez, the alderthieves, store front rev's of the MB make believe churches, and the rest of the liberal's. Us good citizens can move to a safe city and let them all live together in the society that they want. You can even go one step further and put a fence around the city to force them all to live the way they are trying to force us.
Keep fighting Arizona. More and more Americans are behind you every day. Yes I said Americans. The legal kind who were born here, came here legally, and or naturalized citizens.
Welcome to Chicago.
That's it, I'm leaving Chicago A.S.A.P!
Read the article. Went through a box of Kleenex.LOL!
The final paragraph basically sums up the whole situation....."Take Fernando Cortez. The 30-year-old house painter was deported last week from Arizona after he says police applied the immigration law early – handing him over to border patrol when he was caught driving without a license. He is now living in the Juan Bosco shelter while he plans how to return – illegally – to the United States next year.
But he says he will steer clear of Arizona and instead head to Florida.
“Adios, Arizona,” he says.
I won't be surprised if he not only comes back, but sues the state of Arizona for beginning enforcement early.
We not only need to vote Shortshanks out of office, we need to Obama out.
Remember to vote! You may not only save your city, you could save your country.
Where in this article does it say they are "illegal"???
Maybe ICE sees this and waits for them outside the city limits. These assholes are so bold. I support the Arizona law and I'm hispanic and also a naturalized citizen. I also have family in Arizona that support it too. This color of their skin BS needs to stop. I just had family visit me from South America on a tourist visa and guess what? They went back home when they were supposed to and have also been waiting 7 years now to get their permanent resident card (green card). That's how my entire family did it to come here to the U.S. since the 60's. We all became citizens, pay our taxes,educated ourselves, served in the armed forces,became home owners and have careers. Many people come here legally with a dollar in their pocket and now own a dunkin donuts or 7-11 franchise without freeloading from the tax payers. Ok I'm done with the rant, thanks
We can't afford more stress on our already stressed out healthcare and educational systems.
All you LIBS out there that want immigration reform (amnesty) please tell us who the F' is going to keep paying for all these people as they just wallow in the shrinking support systems of Chicago? Are you? I'm maxed out.
This city is becoming a third world entity with people colonizing into their little segments of the city. They have no motivation to become US citizens or assimilate into society.
All they want is their piece of services without paying for them.
Want to live here? Assimilate into the culture. Learn English.
i love when these idiots think social services are free. lets be honest. illegals are here for the social services their home countries refuse to provide. the mexican/central american governments are the 800lb gorilla in the room. family of 10? i guess the they didnt have tv?
OMG, there is going to be a brown flight up here. First of all, there are no jobs even for Americans. Second of all, who is going to pay for all the"hand out services" , let alone how many of the illegal kids are going to go to our already crowded school system. Shame on our government for allowing this to happen. We can't afford anymore illegal leeches into our country. Come here legally like so many others do and assimilate to our culture and we we welcome you with open arms. Enough.
We NEED to throw out all the Democrats that help these sponges of society!
I am tired. I am very tired of hearing that these poor, poor illegals are being treated in no respect. I am so tired of hearing that "they" are the ones who are the victims. I am so tired of seeing people protesting something that the government has not been responsible for in years! Arizona has decided to take to issue and make it work for them. Its the same people who do not put into the system, do not work and pay into the system, but rather doing that, they'll suck it dry, because its their "right". I am tired. It may come to a time, maybe we all should just drop everything that we have worked for and suck this "free" system dry, too. Why work, when you can get "free" health care, "free" education, "free" food, "free" cell phones and "free" monies, too. I am tired of hearing that these poor, poor people have such a hard life. Maybe, us Americans should look back and take it from the older immigrants and asked them if there was someone there to interpret for them or if there was a phone book in their language. Ask them if there was any sympathy for them. Ask them if they stood in lines to become new citizens of their new country and forget about their old country. To leave it behind, but embrace their culture and live and breath their new life. I am tired. I am so tired of all this crap. Why don't all these illegals just get off their dead asses and stand in line and get the citizenship that they so demand for "free"!! No, I guess it isn't so easy, but i guess it was never easy to do alotta things, but the older ones did it, why can't they too? The key word here and always has been is.....ILLEGAL. Not skin color. Not language. Not the way you dress. Being in a country ILLEGALLY. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes, I am tired..............
...withous even firing a shot!
Forget the Alamo!
I say we erect billboards at conversion van height on all major roads into Chicago saying Welcome to Arizona! We'll have to make them in spanish, of course. Maybe they'll drive around us and end up in Milwaukee
Where in this article does it say they are "illegal"???
Let's see:
(1) The family sold everything they owned...
Why would anyone sell everything they owned if they were legal American citizens?
(2) ...in order to leave Arizona without being detected...
"without being detected?" What are they fleeing?
(3) ...and fearing the passage of the new SB 1070 law.
Now we're getting to the meat of the issue. Why would a legal citizen have anything to fear from a law directed solely at illegal lawbreakers?
(4) The family of ten is moving to Chicago where they feel they will not be targeted because of the color of their skin
As SCC stated, a bald faced lie. Enforcement based on skin color is profiling. The law was written to apply to law breakers (traffic violators, ordinance offenses, misdemeanors, etc.) It was specifically written so that street stops and contacts were not a means to check immigration status.
Papers are saying that Chicago is the nezt AZ with the rising amounts of Illegals coming here. Hell we have enough already from hispanics to the Irish to the Polish, etc. They are gonna bankrupt our city just as they have doen California. Da Mayor thinks we have debt now, just wait. Theya re all coming here cuz "Chicago opens their arms to ALL illegals". A sad state of affairs!
And another thing....let them all become citizens if they have proof of living in this country for the past ten years. Make them pay taxes and into social security. No CASH paying jobs anymore. Make them buy insurnace like everyone else. Whether they are hispanic or white...doesn't matter. PAY what the citizens of this country have to pay. NO MORE FREE RIDES for ANYONE!!!
Chicago is drowning in illegals due to ignoring all the federal immigration laws...My generation have been taxed to death to pay for these folks every want and need, as a legal taxpayer I like most legal citizens, can only afford 1 to 3 children and not the several I could have had/loved if I wasn't paying for every huge family of illegals housing, food, health care via emergency rooms and free health clinics,,,,I could go on for several pages, but suffice to say My home 2bd/1bath just got whacked with an increase of almost 900dollars after paying the tax appeal lawyer for 09. So tax bill 4,600 for tiny home on postage size property and my value dropped 35% in past 3 yrs, you win liberals, I am buying in Arizona and it has nothing to do with color/race you morons. It has everything to do with having enough of my hard earned money to live in my country in my own home for the rest of my life! It also has to do with laws being enforced to maintain a safe and healthy lifestyle. We Americans have broken our taxpayed federal/state/county banks trying to buy future votes from illegals with their huge anchor baby families,,,there is no money left for illegals, sorry but they need to go to their real home countries and fight/protest for government change there! Distressed middleclass American/LEO
Sure come on to Chicago, I've got a 12 year old Chevy pickup truck I will sell you, or rent by the day, so you can drive through the alleys looking for scrap metal or bicycles or anything that isn't nailed or bolted down.
No one will bother you, no driver license or insurance needed. Only us legal citizens need insurance and a drivers license.
Illegal professional Spongers will go anywhere they can get a free ride. If they all start coming to Shitcago, we will be bankrupt by next year, as we are just about there now. Great job Democommiecrats, you are geniuses. You Democrats would pour gaasoline on a fire attempting to put it out, fuckin dummies.
Joe Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.
Jose Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 cash 'under the table.'
Ready? Now pay attention..
Joe Legal: $25..00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; Joe Legal now has $31,231.00..
Jose Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200.00 per year. Jose Illegal pays no taxes. Jose Illegal now has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $24,031.00.
Jose Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $31,200...00.
Joe Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $18,031.00.
Jose Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps and welfare. Jose Illegal still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. Joe Legal now has $9,631.00.
Jose Illegal receives a $500.00 per month federal rent subsidy. Jose Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Jose Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.
Joe Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for insurance. Joe Legal now has $7,231.00.
Jose Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.
Joe Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc.
Jose Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities,
gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month.
Joe Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.
Jose Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.
Joe Legal's and Jose Illegal's children both attend the same school. Joe Legal pays for his children's lunches while Jose Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Jose Illegal's children have an after school ESL program. Joe Legal's children go home.
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
Do you get it now ??
Yes, the joy of a santuary city!! And, the laws sponsored by our own state rep Eddie Acevedo to give these illegal kids a free state college education and you can apply for a govt. job and not have to prove your citizenship, bank her and get a house loan ant not have a social security number and on and on and on. The more spanish folks moving her, evern if they don't vote, will call for more affirmative action for latinos. My, how they love it.
Hey "General Santa ANNA's Progeny", it is ANA, you nitwit.
It you are going to try and be witty, GET IT RIGHT.
ot , write very illegal vendor , vehicle without a front plate , city sticker a ticket everyday
this is the only way to send a message and believe me the citizens will be outraged and hold the mayor responsible
try it for a few months , revenue dept will be booting cars and people will find another sanctuary city to live in
LOOKS LIKE BUSINESS WILL PICK UP SELLING FAKE I.D.'S ON 26TH STREET.
30/2010 02:21:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Chicagp just spiked on foreclosures, these ten might rent somewhere and thus occupy a place keeping it from foreclose, signed the police, white southside worker/ apartment owner...;)
7/30/2010 03:18:00 AM
I absolutely agree.
A noted trend in 007: Hispanics are scooping up dilapidatd homes on the cheap. They are NOT rehabbers-for-profit. They actually move in to these homes and bring an air of prosperity to these ailing area. You may surmise I work in 007.
Also noted: The rehabers and their contractors are more often victims of crime than the hispanic urban pioneers.
Might the neighbors of Englewwood respect and treasure the presence of the pioneers more than contractors who are in the business of rehabing only to turn these properties into section 8?
However, that was after your people stole the land and continued to steal more and more of it.
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Your people? I guess your not American, or a citizen. While "our people" fight in wars to end tyranny you have the nerve to say some shit like that. Hmmm how abouy GFY.. That's "our peoples" of saying you can leave any time pendejo
Want to live here? Assimilate into the culture. Learn English.
7/30/2010 07:36:00 AM
You are a moron. When your ancestors came to America; did they assimilate to the Native American culture and learn to speak their language? I doubt it. Europeans brought their culture, language and deseases. Assimilate? My ass! Learn to respect other cultures and live in harmony. This is of course America; or have you forgotten.
If these people are illegal, and from the article it is not clear that they are, it sure makes a statement about the enforcement of the immigration laws by the feds. Can you imagine announcing the fact that you are moving to Chicago because the local and federal authorities don't enforce the laws? I have been to Mexico many times. I guarantee you that if you were an illegal alien and you announced you were moving from Michoacan to Quintana Roo to avoid the law, you would be in a Mexican jail by sundown.
30/2010 07:11:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Maybe ICE sees this and waits for them outside the city limits. These assholes are so bold. I support the Arizona law and I'm hispanic and also a naturalized citizen. I also have family in Arizona that support it too. This color of their skin BS needs to stop. I just had family visit me from South America on a tourist visa and guess what? They went back home when they were supposed to and have also been waiting 7 years now to get their permanent resident card (green card). That's how my entire family did it to come here to the U.S. since the 60's. We all became citizens, pay our taxes,educated ourselves, served in the armed forces,became home owners and have careers. Many people come here legally with a dollar in their pocket and now own a dunkin donuts or 7-11 franchise without freeloading from the tax payers. Ok I'm done with the rant, thanks
7/30/2010 07:31:00 AM
You, my friend, are describing class. You are stupid to place ALL hispanics in one class (caste system) Mexico and as other countries have been known to discriminate from class to class.
You obviously in a class that you once were not. Stop class discrimination!
This is Amerika... Where the honest living, english speaking, tax paying, law abiding citizens gets punished... But, hey it's okay, no problem. Right?
Thank you dirty politicians, may you all rot in hell!!
1976
The illegal alien is a moral coward. Rather than work for social change in his own country, he flees his country and his heritage to travel 3,000 miles to wash shit out of a rich man's toilet. This country wasn't built by braceros who ran across the border to do stoop labor. It was built by people who were willing to rebel and fight for what they believe in.
There is no job an American won't do if he is properly compensated. The illegal alien is uneducated and willingly allows himself to be exploited. Economic exploitation is a sin, regardless of your race. Those that willingly participatre should be fighting it, not succumbing and encouraging it. Thje Russian peasants overturned their government. Why can't the Mexican?
I work harder than any illegal alien. I pass them on street corners, when I am going to work and they are not. If they worked 60 hours a week, like I do, they wouldn't be standing on sttreet corners on Pulaski Avenue.
We don't need the illegal alien to wash our car or cut our lawn. Those aren't fitting jobs for a grown man anyway.
You need to learn what it is to be an American. A dog can sleep in a stable but that doesn't mean it is a horse.
Keep bitching about Mexicans while arrogant illegal Muslims come here, assimilate into our society and make American money only to finance terror. They also get educated here under the guise of exchange student or some other bullshit program only to return to the holy lands and prepare to destroy us. I agree the Mexican issue is a problem and the floodgates need to be closed. Too bad political correctness stands in the media's way to bringing up this problem on t.v. After the Muslims are successful at builing their mosque on ground zero in New York like they are pushing for, an elotes cart on 26th street will seem like a pimple on the ass. How quickly we are forgetting September 11, 2001. God bless America.
this will be the straw that breaks the dem/liberals backs. people are PISSED OFF!
Respectfully,
1976
How do you feel about illegal immigration ?
I will say this one time... ILLEGAL anyone or anything should be enforced, as it is the DAMN law that keeps a civilized country...
ILLEGALS are breaking laws by not doing what they need to do in order to keep a civilized in order country. Now we eupropean americans had to do it, why not try following the laws, and not be a person who breaks them.
A city that enables them to break the law and find sanctuary is breaking the laws that are to be abided by.
Obama and DICK are liberal assholes , and anyone that voted the cock suckers in , should take note... Chicago WAS a great place to live, NOT NOW
I choose to live in a state that stands up for the laws instead of appeasing these minorities and illegals, and enabling BREAKING OF LAWS.
I support AZ.
If you don't stand for something , you will fall for ANYTHING....
Im switching sides...we Americans are turning out to be a nation of pussies.
Respectfully,
1976
7/30/2010 05:11:00 AM
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Read, re-read and read again the post from 7/30/2010 07:31:00 AM.
Fourth generation and you still don't have loyalty to this nation, instead using perjoratives for the founding of our country?
This is why I have no faith in recent immigrants, you have no gratitude, only demands.
"Chicagp just spiked on foreclosures, these ten might rent somewhere and thus occupy a place keeping it from foreclose, signed the police, white sputhside worker/ apartment owner...;)
7/30/2010 03:18:00 AM"
sober up before you hand them the keys.
"The family of ten is nuts to leave warm Arizona for cold Chicago.
7/30/2010 05:11:00 AM"
what we need is another winter like '67, or '79, '80, '82, etc.
I've seen the interviews on national news where the illegals are saying they are headed to Chicago. OMG!
The same thing happened in 2007, when Prince William County, VA. passed a law similar to what Arizona is trying to pass now. Surrounding counties who criticized the law THEN, were forced to adopt similar laws as they were being overrun by illegals fleeing from Prince William County!
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4211920/immigration-law-success?playlist_id=86912
"Respectfully,
1976
7/30/2010 05:11:00 AM"
so, you're planning on opening a pizza joint soon?
The criminal catholic churh should be burdened with the cost of these criminals they support.
Have you seen this?
"Obama's "Scheming" on Immigration Amnesty. Memo draws Republican Fire."
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2561865/posts
Obama plans to go ahead with amnesty for illegals.
Read this and be very angry...the socialist government is working against the wishes of its citizens. obama's socialist regime is at war with the citizens of the United States.
Respectfully,
1976
7/30/2010 05:11:00 AM
You will get no argument from me. Sponsoring is a good way to go about it. Prior immigrants (think grandparents and great grandparents from European countries) had to have sponsors so that they didn't become a "burden" on our society. Someone to help them assimilate. A sponsor is a good way for immigrants to get in, learn the language (which they MUST do), learn their civic responsibilities, and get a job.
But nobody talks about the 26 border patrol agents who were killed in 2008 alone, who were protecting our kids on the very front line from drug dealers/smugglers.
These Illegal sons of a bitches should go home with a gun and fix their shitty country.
Will someone please explain what the sanctuary city status really means. I've had cases where the offenders have been deported and it seems the Arizona law or the federal law has been applied in Chicago for quite a number of years.
I have nothing against hispanics,mexicans, or latinos; but the bottom line is they can't all live here. Stay in your country and make it a better place to live instead of coming here for slave wages!
This is all because the Federal government failed to enforce existing immigration laws.
And tomorrow at the "Viva La Soul fest" or whatever it's called, there will be 95% illeagals having fun in free America where the criminals get all the freedoms they want along with free services. Oh how they like to hate America, but sure enjoy the fruits of the land. Funny though how illegals can protest freely in America. ICE should go to the fest and mop up.
Anonymous said...
"...It is now our chance to come here, educate ourselves, grow and enable future generations of Latinos to progress..."
Respectfully,
1976
7/30/2010 05:11:00 AM
NICE SPEECH!
If Americans were ILLEGALLY entering Mexico to use Mexican government services, How would Mexico handle it?
Besides, when did they outlaw education in Mexico and why not grow future generations of Latinos on their own soil instead of raiding the U.S.?
The U.S. is a sovereign nation, and as such, has a right to determine who enters and stays in this country. U.S. Federal law, very specifically prohibits ILLEGAL immigration. What EXACTLY makes it your "chance to come here, educate ourselves, grow and enable future generations of Latinos to progress"?
After all, if I buy a car WITHOUT a burglar alarm, is that an indication to everyone that they can help themselves to my car?
Respectfully speaking, sir, you are a fucking idiot if you think ILLEGAL immigration is OK because the cowardly politicians in Washington don't have the balls to take a stand. Watch what is about to happen to those cowards in the next election, and 2 years from now when the American voters correct the error they made in electing Obama.
Hopefully, the Supreme Court will rule on his citizenship issue before then and he will be tossed from office AND all of the legislation that was passed thru Congress that HE signed as President, will be RECALLED and forced into a REVOTE!
The city will look alot better as 26th street than the southside areas of englewood and roseland and chatham. These immigrants will still pay in high sale taxes gas taxes heating bills and without using link cards. Unlike the great englewood nation.
They're fleeing the Interview!
1776, you are blind to you own racism. There are so many things wrong with your post that there's just no point. Suffice it to say, you are an evil person. An evil, truly racist and hateful person.
What's the big deal? Just brush up on your DUI procedures and wait for uncle chuy to crash into a light pole after leaving Cantina de la Cocaine.
However, that was after your people stole the land and continued to steal more and more of it.
Who the fuck is "your people? "You sound like one of those La Raza reconquista pussies. If you love Mexico so much, the border is wide open, go back there. Oh that's right, You would rather stay here than live in that third world sewer where the government and country "you people" love so much sticks it in the peoples ass all the time.
There isn't anything to love in Mexico if you really are an American.
Go back to school ya knucklehead. Texas became independent, then they joined the winning team, us. It had enough sense even back then to get the heck out of that hellhole. We won territory after defeating Mexico in the Mexican-American War. We acquired parts of Arizona and New Mexico via the Gadsden Purchase in 1854.
So you see, we didn't steal anything, we bought it or won it fair and square. Sheesh, what kind of revisionist-(a) history are they teaching in schools these days?
We must agree that we cannot use blanket statements. Every stereotype holds some truth or else it wouldn't be a stereotype!
Do you even read what you type? Looky here what you typed a few paragraphs before the above copied one.
However, that was after your people stole the land and continued to steal more and more of it.
I think you just lumped all of our white descendants in with thieves.
Now before you get your undies in a bunch, understand that I am a fourth generation American. English is my first language. I am educated. I consider myself American then Mexican.
If you are a forth generation American, you are not Mexican, you are an American whose ancestors were from Mexico. You are of Hispanic race but your nationality is American.
My Grandparents were born in Ireland and Austria, I don't call myself an American-Irish-Austrian.
That, in a nutshell, is the problem with this country, thinking like yours.
have the parents repaid the hospitals for delivery of anchor babies , no english
you pay for me gringo
They say that patriotism is the refuge of a scoundrel. I say that constantly crying racism is the last refuge of a minority scoundrel. November is fast approaching and it would behoove every legal citizen of the USA to start gearing up to throw the democRATS ot of office. Does anyone remember when the law and decorum where ignored to the extent they are now? What did people really think they would get when they elected this dope smoking, arrogant coconut head? The "beautiful" Michele is taking one of her spawn to Spain for a supposed mother/daughter vacation. Just some quality time with one of her chil'rens. The only problem is that she is doing it on the taxpayer's dime, she is staying at a 5-Star villa. As if that isn't enough, she has book 30 rooms. That's right 30 (thirty) rooms, costing up to $4,000 per room, per night. I guess we owe it to her for all the racial injustice she has endured throughout her pampered ass life. I know that I will feel a lot better when I fill out my 2010 Federal Income Tax, knowing I made this beast's life just a little more bearable.
Gear up now!! Call everyone you know and get them to vote Republican in Nov. I am not happy with most of these ball less wimps either, but consider the democRAT alternative. And don't get me started on fuckin' Daley. Maybe Daley's opponent on 2011 will be the sanctuary Rev. Slime Coleman. Viva cabbrones!!!
Who cares? Bring in 100,000 more. Chicago is broke and the Dems have been incharge for 50+ years. One of those ten may just be the straw that breaks the camel's back.
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WWW.bordersheriffs.com
In response to Anynon who wants to sponsor the family...Got no problem with that. But remember that Mexico was stolen from the Aztecs by the Spanish, and the Aztecs in turn subjugated those who lived on the land before them. No one in the discussion has clean hands, and in point of fact the Spanish came reasonably close to wiping out the native population in many areas they colonized.
And for those who wondered where the original article said that the family was illegal...it didn't use the term "illegal." But why else would someone move to "avoid detection"? Are they radioactive?
Ald Burke reportedly wants to pass an ordinance banning City business with Arizona companies.
Well so long Tasers. I guess his political statements are more important than officer safety.
The Republicans need to pass a law denying all public benefits (education, healthcare, social services, etc) to those who are not here legally. We just can't afford to support these people anymore.
7/30/2010 01:24:00 AM
Oh yes, it's all the Democrats fault. Wasn't it the Great Conservative President Ronald Reagan who gave amnesty to a lot of illegals? Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.
Republicans only play lip service to getting tough on illegals. When push comes to shove, they won't do anything beyond symbolic gestures. Their big business lobby loves illegals because it depresses wages for the working class which equals more profit for them. Wake up America, both parties are working for the elite and NOT for you!
Just make sure you keep pulling a straight Democrat ticket come election time. Learn to assimilate with your new neighbors,
You people need to get out more. Truth be told Big Corporations want the illegals here for CHEAP Labor and to exploit them(Daley wants Big Corporations happy thats why he gives them Large tax breaks) Your republicans all over Illinois want them here because they are for BIG Business. Like it or not thats the truth, Brady says 8 dollars an hour is too much to pay an American worker Meanwhile large corporations pay those at the top millions. WE the Middle class they don't give a rats ass about us. Look around in your own stations daley has a corporation doing the custodial work at the station ALL are Illegales, those jobs use to be city jobs with a living wage and benefits. Keep voting for Big coroprations who will send your jobs to China in a new york minute. Stop the hate get on board with whats right.
i love when these idiots think social services are free. lets be honest. illegals are here for the social services their home countries refuse to provide. the mexican/central american governments are the 800lb gorilla in the room. family of 10? i guess the they didnt have tv?
Corporations exploit them as Cheap labor and screw the American worker all for profit, ask BP screw the Middle class yet we have congress feeling sorry for them what a a piece of shit they are. Ask yourself why all the jobs and factories are shipped over to India and China- PROFIT- THE party of NO SURE KNOW HOW TO SCREW US>
Michelle Malkin column directly on point;
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/28/police-state-how-mexico-treats-illegal-aliens/
1776, you are blind to you own racism. There are so many things wrong with your post that there's just no point. Suffice it to say, you are an evil person. An evil, truly racist and hateful person.
7/30/2010 02:48:00 PM
please don't ever use the year 1776 with this guy ever again....
I believe you meant 1976. which is probably the year he was born, 34 years old with an obvious CPS education, liberal brainwashing. re-writing history.
Fuckin mutts
Fourth generation and you still don't have loyalty to this nation, instead using perjoratives for the founding of our country?
This is why I have no faith in recent immigrants, you have no gratitude, only demands.
7/30/2010 01:11:00 PM
very well said.
The Feds need to cut off all illegals. Do not hire them or give them an education. This would surely send them packing back to their country.
Want to live here? Assimilate into the culture. Learn English.
7/30/2010 07:36:00 AM
You are a moron. When your ancestors came to America; did they assimilate to the Native American culture and learn to speak their language? I doubt it. Europeans brought their culture, language and deseases. Assimilate? My ass! Learn to respect other cultures and live in harmony. This is of course America; or have you forgotten.
7/30/2010 11:13:00 AM
Bullshit, my grandparents wouldn't allow anyone to speak the language of the homeland outside of the house. You wanted to BE an American back then. Now we're expected to make exceptions for everyone, instead of expecting them to assimilate into OUR society. Respect America first, other cultures can come later.
They are forcing the Bama Administration to do something. I support the bill !
TVB them all and take their wheels! Put their $ back into the economy their illegal asses are stealing from!
"...It is now our chance to come here, educate ourselves, grow and enable future generations of Latinos to progress..."
__do it legally and I don't have a problem with that
Keep bitching about Mexicans while arrogant illegal Muslims come her
--The only reason we are bitching about Mexicans is because they are the ones who "demand" amnesty etc. You don't see Middle Easterners, Italians, Germans or any other nationality out there demanding shit! The Mexicans made themselves targets of the ILLEGAL immigrant debate
When your ancestors came to America; did they assimilate to the Native American culture and learn to speak their language?
--I'm all for the speak English part!!
This is disgusting........ But then again this has been going on for a long time... Look for more Social Security and Drivers License made up illegally in the 010...... The law states they have to be caught on a felony inorder to check their status......
Heads up Officers, watch your back, all the ILLEGALS are looking for a paycheck and that SHTCAGO PAYS!!!!!!
Do not put yourself in the trickbag.
You are a moron. When your ancestors came to America; did they assimilate to the Native American culture and learn to speak their language? I doubt it. Europeans brought their culture, language and deseases. Assimilate? My ass! Learn to respect other cultures and live in harmony. This is of course America; or have you forgotten.
7/30/2010 11:13:00 AM
You're the moron. My grandparents came here legally, learned english and didn't expect handouts. They were poor but had lots of pride and worked for what they had. They were proud to become American citizens the legal way. I'm a little sick and tired of how I should respect everyone else's culture. Come here legally, learn english, get a job and pay into the system. Since you're all for the illegals staying put, take a bunch into your home,provide for them and learn their language and cater to them like the democrats do. Better yet, give them your social security number to use so they don't have to steal an American citizen's social security number.
"You need to learn what it is to be an American. A dog can sleep in a stable but that doesn't mean it is a horse."
--7/30/2010 11:22:00 AM
"Oh, but the new Mexican people next door keep their lawn nice."
Lawn care is not sufficient concord upon which to base a society. Sorry.
Talk about grasping at straws...
Keep bitching about Mexicans while arrogant illegal Muslims come here, assimilate into our society and make American money only to finance terror.
The Mexican drug cartels are just as bad my friend. They are here already and will continue to multiply with no immigration enforcement.
Maybe I am just now noticing...... But I have seen a lot of Arizona license plates around Chicago in the last few months.
when they start (ha-ha) I mean when they begin freely pouring goods and services on the non-deserving, I am simply going to drop my health insurance. I won't pay one more red cent and I don't give a shit if I die. My famil also has instructions to absolutely not pay a penny to bury me. I too will become the gov's sack of shit.
Anonymous said...
"You need to learn what it is to be an American. A dog can sleep in a stable but that doesn't mean it is a horse."
--7/30/2010 11:22:00 AM
"Oh, but the new Mexican people next door keep their lawn nice."
Lawn care is not sufficient concord upon which to base a society. Sorry.
Talk about grasping at straws...
7/30/2010 11:59:00 PM
Green side up remember.
However, that was after your people stole the land and continued to steal more and more of it.
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I'm all for collective responsibility ... are you? Ya, whites took the land, the English to be accurate. No doubt.
They took it from the native American Indian. They probably did some atrocious things to that group of people. I'll own that (though my people came from Catholic Ireland after all this, and AFTER slavery too). But so it is.
The American Indian was not "one" group, more like many groups who savagely slaughtered each other prior to the arrival of whitey.
Careful where you throw those stones. The only difference between "my" people and "your" people is that we won. "My" people made progress the world had never yet seen in the area of law, government, justice, technology, and the arts. Your people still shit outside in dirt holes. How's that I-Pod working? You're welcome.
So we purposely did NOT was to assimilate THEIR culture, as there cultures were many. We were not their guests, we were their conquerers. So it is.
And if you have one drop of Spaniard DNA in your veins, you are welcome to climb aboard the guilt bus too.
Collective guilt works for all of us.
I am very happy to see that my comments made for a very lively discussion.
1) Am I opening up a pizzeria? How well you know me!
2) I am very proud to be an American. My grandfather fought for this country in WWII. Yes, he was born here.
3) Just because YOUR people came here first- you all feel some entitlement.
4) Why was border control implemented in 1924? Why 1924? Was it because most of YOUR great-grandparents had already crossed their asses over?
5) Yes, I do have a CPS education but I can guarantee you that I make more than you, so where did that nice expensive education get you? You are still a blue collar worker! What a waste of money- you could've went to a public school. I really do not believe that your expensive and private schooling is a great argument especially when p.o.'s with the same time on - make the same! Chicago Police doesn't pay you based on what school you went to, so your education is irrelevant!
6) I went to school at the university level and I obtained my degree. It was completely free! It was free not because of the color of my skin but because I was living on my own, earning minimum wage as a student worker. I wasn't in mommy & daddy's basement!
7) Some of you feel because I do not completely agree with everything the U.S. does - then that means I am not a true American? I am an American and I am proud to be an American but I refuse to be a naive American!
8) Go back to where you come from?
Really? I have not one relative living in Mexico. My great grandparents, grandparents, parents and 2 sibilings were all born here! I have no hometown in Mexico. I have no recent immigrants in my family, so exactly where am I suppose to go back to?
Get some original material because that one is so outdated.
9) Did you happen to read the part in my post where I state that I will gladly sponsor them so they are my burden- not a burden to the U.S.? I am actually sponsoring an individual now.
10) Some of you have the audacity to call me racist? Look at some of these posts and you will soon realize that we are all racist to some point!
BTW, I am a female and I have bigger balls of courage than most of you men!
Respectfully,
1976
The city will look alot better as 26th street than the southside areas of englewood and roseland and chatham. These immigrants will still pay in high sale taxes gas taxes heating bills and without using link cards. Unlike the great englewood nation.
7/30/2010 02:45:00 PM
26th st is a war zone right now ask anyone in the 10th district
Joe Legal and Jose Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not pay.
Do you get it now ??
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Bravo!!!
"'My' people made progress the world had never yet seen in the area of law, government, justice, technology, and the arts. Your people still s__t outside in dirt holes. How's that I-Pod working? You're welcome."
--7/31/2010 04:31:00 AM
Example -- everything in Mexico more recent than stone pyramids for human sacrifice is a European invention.
Everything.
I'm still laughing at a City College of Chicago "educational" film that showed Mexicans running a cast-off, sixty-year old Goss (Chicago) rotary printing press that had been shipped down there, with a solemn voice-over about "Mexican technology." There is no such thing.
Hey, how about a nice bowl of pozole?
"Since corn was a sacred plant...pozole was made to be consumed on special events. According to...the National Institute of Anthropology and History and the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México...the meat used in the pozole was human. After the prisoners were killed by having their hearts torn out in a ritual sacrifice, the rest of the body was chopped and cooked with corn. The meal was shared among the whole community..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pozole
As I say -- "at least they keep the yard nice" (if, indeed, they don't turn it into a paved parking lot, chicken farm, auto repair shop, or scrapyard, as is increasingly common once that ugly wrought-iron fencing with six mailboxes on it goes up around the place) is a desperate "lowest common denominator" for neighbors whom you may not even be able to communicate with, and does not qualify as the basis upon which to found a society.
It is unrealistic to expect that every social order and set of mores can successfully operate in two places -- in its country of origin, and in duplicate form in the United States.
Failed social experiment.
Why doesn't "someone" "complain" about the Polish Illegals? Back in 1993, the Chicago Sun-Times showed how Polish, Nigerian and Jamaican Illegals outnumbered Mexican Illegals.
Some (if not most) of the Polish Illegals and Legals don't even try to learn one word of English, even after living here for forty years.
"There's plenty of free education, health care, housing and who knows what other subsidies awaiting their arrival. Right taxpayers?"
Right you are, SCC! It's a veritable pinata of benefits!
City of Chicago flyer -- one side Spanish, one side English.
The 17th Annual All Kids And Family Health Fair
Sponsored by State Senator William Delgado, State Representatives Luis Arroyo and Cynthia Soto, and the 2nd Legislative District Health Committee
(to be held at a city park in an Hispanic neighborhood in August)
CHILDREN
-All Kids Health Insurance Registration
-Immunizations
-Lead Screening
-Dental Information and Screening
-Autism Information and Special Activities
-KidCare Identification Program
-Asthma Activities
-Science Activities
-Nutrition Activities
-Exercise Activities for Children
-Special Entertainment
-Giveaways and Raffles
-Free Backpacks with School Supplies
ADULTS
-AllKids FamilyCare and Mom and Babies Health Insurance Registration for Children, Parents, and Expectant Women
-Blood Pressure Screening
-Fasting Cholesterol Screening
-Kidney Screening and Education
-Fasting Diabetes Screening
-Asthma Screening and Information
-Foot Care Education
-STDs and HIV Screening
-Women's Health Counseling and Resources
-Chiropractic and Exercises for All
-Resources for Seniors
-Dialysis and Healthy Eating Education
-Resources for Health and Social Services
-Giveaways for All in the Family
Repeating --
Giveaways for All in the Family
...and you wonder why they're clambering over barbed wire to get in.
"The idol (Huitzilopochtli) gave them advice. It sounded well: wander, look for lands, avoid any large-scale fighting, send pioneers ahead, have them plant maize, (and) when the harvest is ready, move up to it."
-- The Aztec - Man and Tribe
Von Hagen, Victor W.
Mentor, 1961
Our schools, the ones the taxpayers are supporting, are over-run with illegals and illegal's anchor kids. Not a citizen? Then PAY for your child's education. Not a citizen and no insurance? Then PAY cash at that emergency room you abuse. No WICcards, no section8 vouchers, no LINK cards. If you are not a citizen, you cannot engage in any of these public freebees. They get by it with the anchor babies....they get a SS# for these kids right away and start using their kids for the free stuff. Laws have to be pushed through to stop this blantant stealing.
How much more can the middle class worker be taxed?
How did race and color come into this? Mexican, Hispanic and Latino/a refer to culture only, not race or color.
5) Yes, I do have a CPS education but I can guarantee you that I make more than you, so where did that nice expensive education get you? You are still a blue collar worker! What a waste of money- you could've went to a public school. I really do not believe that your expensive and private schooling is a great argument especially when p.o.'s with the same time on - make the same! Chicago Police doesn't pay you based on what school you went to, so your education is irrelevant!
6) I went to school at the university level and I obtained my degree. It was completely free! It was free not because of the color of my skin but because I was living on my own, earning minimum wage as a student worker. I wasn't in mommy & daddy's basement!
Bullshit, it was all because you are a minority, not because of any achievement on your part. They didn't give my kid the option. Guess what? If you got a jump over more qualified individuals, you are inferior. As long as affirmative action is around you will never be equal. We know the thought of being favored kicks around in the back of your mind, knowing you don't deserve what you have but it was given to you because of your race and gender.
Many of us may be blue collar workers, but we can lay our heads down at night, secure in the knowledge that what we have, we earned, and it was not given to us based on skin color or because we made poor choices and need to be bailed out by Uncle Sam.
But I guess that's the mentality many people in this country have, that the government will fix everything. Well look around you, there are too many who take and don't contribute, and it is destroying this country.
See what your free education gets you, and how your pizza joint does then, after the whole system collapses due to the human invasion from Mexico.
Anonymous noone90210 said...
Why doesn't "someone" "complain" about the Polish Illegals? Back in 1993, the Chicago Sun-Times showed how Polish, Nigerian and Jamaican Illegals outnumbered Mexican Illegals.
Some (if not most) of the Polish Illegals and Legals don't even try to learn one word of English, even after living here for forty years.
7/31/2010 04:40:00 PM
Do you want to know why nobody bitches about them? Because there are 20 to 30 million illegal aliens from south of the border running around this country, stealing identities, selling dope, murdering, raping, killing innocents while driving intoxicated, clogging up emergency rooms by seeking treatment for every little sniffle and cough.
I don't think there were that many illegals here in 1993 and I don't recall an outcry from citizens concerning criminal acts by illegals back then.
Do you want more reasons, because they are legion. You sound like a whiny second-grader.
our president is acting like a shoe salesman instead of the leader of the free world---- he sent some of his lap dogs down to arizona to interrupt the illegal alien law which was to take effect last week--- obama essentially inherited a problem which has been festering for many years--- the federal government sat on their hands for too long and now it is to late to address the problem---- that is why the arizona governor did what she did--- having had many conversations over the past few days with friends, they are all for arizona and are a little ticked off at obama--- jessie jackson actually said something intelligent the other day, " we can send 100,000 troops to afghanistan and spend 100 billion dollars there but we can't take care of our own streets here....
Want to live here? Assimilate into the culture. Learn English.
7/30/2010 07:36:00 AM
You are a moron. When your ancestors came to America; did they assimilate to the Native American culture and learn to speak their language? I doubt it. Europeans brought their culture, language and deseases. Assimilate? My ass! Learn to respect other cultures and live in harmony. This is of course America; or have you forgotten.
7/30/2010 11:13:00 AM
Your right this America- therefore respect this country and learn ENGLISH!!! I came to this country LEGALLY and I respected the American culture and learned ENGLISH! I don't think there should be any signs in Spanish or any other languages except in airports. This is AMERICA an English speaking nation. If u wanna speak Spanish go right ahead but don't expect America to do so to. If you feel so strong for cultural respect...than respect American cultural and learn the English language and learn some American culture.
Dear Anonymous
7/31/2010 04:40:00 PM
Please learn some manners, when replying to someone.
PS We weren't discussing armies. :)
"Looks like there's gonna be a few new faces pushing Elotes carts down 26th Street in the very near future...I predict 5-10 years before this whole city looks like 26th Street."
--7/30/2010 01:24:00 AM
Mexicans call this reconquista -- the re-conquest of North America.
Don't look at me.
"LA Teacher Calls for Mexican Revolt in the US: Ron Gochez rallies a group of student protesters advocating illegal immigration into America..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iybaDyMr1rs
We are now experiencing the true meaning of the term population pressure. Push, press, push, push some more...
I was helping someone clean out a building, working hard at breaking up material and packing the rented dumpster tight so that another would not have to be paid for.
Along came the inevitable scrap truck...and circled the block and came back...and came back again. And again.
The woman driver, obviously suspicious that someone was cheating her out of some bit of metal she felt entitled to, would not leave the owner alone, until he was cravenly, apologetically pulling all of the carefully loaded material back out of the dumpster for her to inspect.
I will not be made a fool of. It was obvious that my effort meant nothing compared to the "need" of someone who didn't even belong here. I simply left right in the middle of it all, never to return. I wonder if he's figured it out yet.
By the year 2050, the U.S population will hit 400 million, the 150 million additional coming mainly from non-European immigration.
Pressure.
Population pressure.
BTW, I am a female and I have bigger balls of courage than most of you men!
Wow. Is that the best you can come up with? I'm a female too. Since you're so pro illegal immigrant and have bigger balls than most men, pack your shit and move to Mexico. Take all your wonderful illegals who are bleeding us dry back home with you. Since your balls are so big, you should do just fine over there in that shit hole country.
"Why doesn't someone complain about the Polish illegals?"
Oh...you mean like Rafael Resendez Ramirez, the "Railroad Killer?"
*
What is the ISSUE?
Lock down the damn border!
Its OUR country
not the illegals that are trying to INVADE it.
See where Im going with this?
Just got my auto insurance renewal today. I nearly fainted when I saw the total for the year. They raised it by 61%.
No tickets in our history and no claims to the insurance. When I called them to ask why such a huge increase, the woman on the other end told me that the rates for Illinois went up due to the fact that they paid out huge sums of money in settlements last year.
She went even further to say that the number of claims for people involved in accidents with uninsured motorist was the leading cause for the increase.
Yet one more reason I can't wait to leave this god forsaken SANCTUARY city.
Want to live here? Assimilate into the culture. Learn English.
7/30/2010 07:36:00 AM
You are a moron. When your ancestors came to America; did they assimilate to the Native American culture and learn to speak their language? I doubt it. Europeans brought their culture, language and deseases. Assimilate? My ass! Learn to respect other cultures and live in harmony. This is of course America; or have you forgotten.
__________________________________
HEY - Respect MY culture - AMERICAN.
When I wrote this, I meant ANYONE, not just Hispanic. I don't care if you're Chinese, Laotian, Polish, Russian - whatever. GFY.
My ancestors came here just after 1900 and were proud to learn the language and culture. 8 uncles -4 on both sides of the family fought in WWII.
Learn the language AND the culture. That's the least you can do if you want to live here.
Stop playing the "victim" and show some loyalty to this place you take advantage of - or get the F' out. That goes for everyone - not just Hispanic. This is America - not colonies of people here to send money "back home".
This is a melting pot of cultures - NOT a tossed salad.
Wow. Is that the best you can come up with? I'm a female too. Since you're so pro illegal immigrant and have bigger balls than most men, pack your shit and move to Mexico. Take all your wonderful illegals who are bleeding us dry back home with you. Since your balls are so big, you should do just fine over there in that shit hole country.
7/31/2010 10:39:00 PM
They know what is going on. They are only being disingenuous in their arguments for illegals being here and made legal. None of their arguments for illegals hold any water.
That's why they try to shout the opposition down with cries of racism. THEY are the racists, are truly evil, and are destroying this country. And they know it.
"BTW, I am a female and I have bigger balls of courage than most of you men!
Respectfully,
1976
7/31/2010 05:45:00 AM"
honey, you have no balls.
you have no idea, whatsoever, what it means to have balls, what it feels like to have balls and what defines a person who has balls.
what you do have is gall.
you can volunteer to carry the weight of any number of aspiring immigrants, but, when you claim to have the right to impose the expense of what you choose to do upon everyone else, posturing yourself to be, somehow, morally superior to those who do not choose to act as you act, think as you think and feel as you feel, you prove your total lack of understanding of the very things that make the US OF A the country practically everyone else wants to live in.
if you want to be a willing victim of the vampire, so be it.
just don't think your choice gives you the right to impose the blood suckers onto everyone else.
However, that was after your people stole the land and continued to steal more and more of it.
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I'm all for collective responsibility ... are you? Ya, whites took the land, the English to be accurate. No doubt.
They took it from the native American Indian. They probably did some atrocious things to that group of people. I'll own that (though my people came from Catholic Ireland after all this, and AFTER slavery too). But so it is.
The American Indian was not "one" group, more like many groups who savagely slaughtered each other prior to the arrival of whitey.
Careful where you throw those stones. The only difference between "my" people and "your" people is that we won. "My" people made progress the world had never yet seen in the area of law, government, justice, technology, and the arts. Your people still shit outside in dirt holes. How's that I-Pod working? You're welcome.
So we purposely did NOT was to assimilate THEIR culture, as there cultures were many. We were not their guests, we were their conquerers. So it is.
And if you have one drop of Spaniard DNA in your veins, you are welcome to climb aboard the guilt bus too.
Collective guilt works for all of us.
7/31/2010 04:31:00 AM
It's amazing when I hear the revisionist historical clap "the white people made progress while colored people didn't do anything".
I won't go much into it, but read the history books by Will Durant (a white guy) and stack up the achievements made by whites and non-whites. You be the judge.
Better OPEN your eyes PEOPLE.. What is happening in Mexico "Drug Cartels" Already here & heading up North!!! Look around...I don't have a problem with anyone bettering themselves...I do have a problem when you won't speak english...I do have a problem when you cannot fly the American Flag but yet fly the Mexican flag but yet want everything that America has to offer!!! Thank You Daley & all you Lib/democrats for this!!!!
Anonymous said...
Want to live here? Assimilate into the culture. Learn English.
7/30/2010 07:36:00 AM
You are a moron. When your ancestors came to America; did they assimilate to the Native American culture and learn to speak their language? I doubt it. Europeans brought their culture, language and deseases. Assimilate? My ass! Learn to respect other cultures and live in harmony. This is of course America; or have you forgotten.
7/30/2010 11:13:00 AM
My grandparents came here from Europe, mother's side from Poland, father's side from Germany.
All spoke only the home language, Polish & German. They learned how to speak English, as adults. In the 1930's.
Think it was easy to learn English and earn a living and raise large families? Hell no.
When I was a young lad I could speak to my grandparents. they all spoke English with a think accent from the old country but THEY SPOKE ENGLISH! And I could communicate with them and they with me.
My parents insisted I speak English in the house since America was our home now, not the old country.
So I did. Not to say we all forgot about where we all came from. We were from immigrants, like everyone else here. For a good meal of European style food we went to the grandparents or waited for the holidays.
There was no protesting for rights to get into the USA illegally. We were all expected to work for what we got. And we did. To be "on relief" as they called it was a mark of shame or laziness. No way.
To the Mexican Americans out there, you are the same, immigrants who came here for a better life. Don't continue to insult everyone who came before by insisting on rights that you don't deserve. Learn the language. Millions before you did that, it is expected of you too.
You want to have Mexico, then go back to Mexico, this is the USA. Get with the program, keep your ties, remember your heritage but get your heart in the USA as well as your ass. Learn English and stop sticking your hand out expecting something for nothing.
And for God sake, if you got in illegally and cannot get a driver's license, don't expect breaks from me for I will arrest you and hook your car or pickup truck every time.
God Bless the USA.
Dear Anonymous,
7/31/2010 11:42:00 PM
I'm referring to Polish Illegals on the northwest side of Chicago and neighboring suburbs. Some of these Polish Illegals are drunks who are passed out near Belmont & Hamlin, School & Hamlin, etc. that are begging for (or in a few cases trying to rob people of their) money.
Whopper #1
llegal immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans.
Truth:
There is very little overlap between American jobs and immigrant work. The vast majority of the undocumented population speak little English, are low skilled, are uneducated and secure the worst paying jobs. By contrast, only 7% of the American labor force has less than a High School diploma and the cities with the highest unemployment rates are in the Midwest, that coincidentally have the lowest rates of immigration.
Bottom line: An English speaking American who has taken advantage of all this country has to offer does not compete with undocumented workers for the same jobs. Immigrants have always come to do immigrant work.
Whopper #2
Legal immigration is fine, but illegal immigrants should be punished for having broken the law.
Truth:
Immigrants have been coming to this country without proper documentation since the pilgrims first landed on Plymouth Rock. The problems we are facing today are caused by an overreaching government bureaucracy that was nonexistent when many of the ancestors of today’s Americans came to this country. In the name of protectionism, we have made it impossible for the much needed low skilled worker to come work here legally and for individuals already here to legalize their status.
Whopper #3
Illegal immigrants are a drain on our economy because they don’t pay taxes.
Truth:
Everyone in this country, legal or not, pays sales taxes and property taxes either through their mortgage or rent. Moreover, 2/3 of the undocumented pay income, social security and Medicare taxes through the use of false social security numbers or Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers. These contributions amount to billions of dollars into the U.S. Treasury every year, which they will never see returned unless… they send their children to public schools or visit an emergency room.
Whopper #4
Illegal immigrants and children have flooded the public school system & the emergency rooms.
Truth:
Yes, they have. This one is true. The poor in any society will always consume the most entitlements offered by the government. That is simply human nature. The problem is that we have turned the land of opportunity into the land of entitlements, and feel justified in claiming these entitlements only for those we consider to be truly American. If we want to return this country to its former glory, we need to get EVERYONE off the government dole.
Whopper #5
The complexion of America is changing.
Truth:
This one is also true, and it appears inevitable. However, that should not matter in a color blind society as long as the people maintain the original vision of our Founding Fathers.
Whopper #6
Illegal immigrants have no interest in learning English or assimilating into American Society.
Truth:
Americans have been concerned about foreign language speakers on our soil ever since Benjamin Franklin feared the Germans living in Pennsylvania would never assimilate. Thankfully (or not), nearly all U.S. households are English-only by the 3rd generation in this country.
Fiction: Undocumented migration has been tied to terrorism.
Fact: Not a single terrorist has been caught crossing the U.S.-
Mexican border. All 9/11 hijackers entered the country legally.
Fiction: Undocumented migrants don’t pay taxes.
Fact: Undocumented migrants pay more in taxes than they take
out in government services. The Center for Migration Studies
estimates that undocumented immigrants paid over $16 billion in
taxes in 2002—more than the budgets of most states. Migrants
contribute $7 billion to the social security system without
drawing any major benefits. Over 66% pay income taxes, and
almost all migrants pay state sales and excise taxes. Even
without considering their positive economic effects, immigrants
contribute $5 billion more to government agencies than they take
out.
Fiction: Migrants don’t contribute to our economy.
Fact: Although migrants from Mexico do send $2 billion a
year home in remittances, they also fuel economic growth.
Undocumented migrants from Mexico spend the vast majority
of the $122 billion they earn in the United States.
Although immigrants account for 12.5 percent of the U.S. population, they make up about 15 percent of the workforce. They are overrepresented among workers largely because the rest of our population is aging: Immigrants and their children have accounted for 58 percent of U.S. population growth since 1980. This probably won't change anytime soon. Low U.S. fertility rates and the upcoming retirement of the baby boomers mean that immigration is likely to be the only source of growth in what we call the "prime age" workforce -- workers ages 25 to 55 -- in the decades ahead. As record numbers of retirees begin drawing Social Security checks, younger immigrant workers will be paying taxes, somewhat easing the financial pressures on the system.
Don't fall for the political practice of scapegoating, its easy to scapegoat those that don't have a voice, Immigrants pay taxes, in the form of income, property, sales, and taxes at the federal and state level. As far as income tax payments go, sources vary in their accounts, but a range of studies find that immigrants pay between $90 and $140 billion a year in federal, state, and local taxes. Undocumented immigrants pay income taxes as well, as evidenced by the Social Security Administrations suspense file (taxes that cannot be matched to workers names and social security numbers), which grew by $20 billion between 1990 and 1998.
Whopper #1
llegal immigrants are taking jobs away from Americans.
Truth:
There is very little overlap between American jobs and immigrant work. The vast majority of the undocumented population speak little English, are low skilled, are uneducated and secure the worst paying jobs. By contrast, only 7% of the American labor force has less than a High School diploma and the cities with the highest unemployment rates are in the Midwest, that coincidentally have the lowest rates of immigration.
Bottom line: An English speaking American who has taken advantage of all this country has to offer does not compete with undocumented workers for the same jobs. Immigrants have always come to do immigrant work.
Whopper #2
Legal immigration is fine, but illegal immigrants should be punished for having broken the law.
Truth:
Immigrants have been coming to this country without proper documentation since the pilgrims first landed on Plymouth Rock. The problems we are facing today are caused by an overreaching government bureaucracy that was nonexistent when many of the ancestors of today’s Americans came to this country. In the name of protectionism, we have made it impossible for the much needed low skilled worker to come work here legally and for individuals already here to legalize their status.
Whopper #3
Illegal immigrants are a drain on our economy because they don’t pay taxes.
Truth:
Everyone in this country, legal or not, pays sales taxes and property taxes either through their mortgage or rent. Moreover, 2/3 of the undocumented pay income, social security and Medicare taxes through the use of false social security numbers or Individual Taxpayer Identification Numbers. These contributions amount to billions of dollars into the U.S. Treasury every year, which they will never see returned unless… they send their children to public schools or visit an emergency room.
Whopper #4
Illegal immigrants and children have flooded the public school system & the emergency rooms.
Truth:
Yes, they have. This one is true. The poor in any society will always consume the most entitlements offered by the government. That is simply human nature. The problem is that we have turned the land of opportunity into the land of entitlements, and feel justified in claiming these entitlements only for those we consider to be truly American. If we want to return this country to its former glory, we need to get EVERYONE off the government dole.
Whopper #5
The complexion of America is changing.
Truth:
This one is also true, and it appears inevitable. However, that should not matter in a color blind society as long as the people maintain the original vision of our Founding Fathers.
Whopper #6
Illegal immigrants have no interest in learning English or assimilating into American Society.
Truth:
Americans have been concerned about foreign language speakers on our soil ever since Benjamin Franklin feared the Germans living in Pennsylvania would never assimilate. Thankfully (or not), nearly all U.S. households are English-only by the 3rd generation in this country.
8/02/2010 04:15:00 AM
All of your assertions mean nothing. Where did this come from? Because you didn't think it up, you probably just cut and pasted it. You provide no references or links to the information you provided. Until then, it is probably just some rantings of some social justice teacher from a community college or la raza propaganda.
"The complexion of America is changing."
I love the passive tense that is constantly used by these people.
No. This isn't like the weather or something. "The complexion of America is being changed."
There.
"Chicago just spiked on foreclosures, these ten might rent somewhere and thus occupy a place keeping it from foreclose, signed the police, white southside worker/ apartment owner...;)"
--7/30/2010 03:18:00 AM
...assuming that the landlord uses the rent money to pay off the mortgage instead of blowing it at the riverboat casino. Tenants have no idea what's going on in this regard until the eviction notice arrives.
Chicago lost over 8,000 rental units last year in this manner -- that's how the news media phrased "over 8,000 families were thrown into the street for paying their rent last year."
There should be an ordinance requiring that apartment tenants receive a notice every month FROM THE BANK that the mortgage payment on the building has been deposited. Building owners (like aldermen and their lawyer buddies) should not be able to disappear behind "LLC"s, either.
Let's have a little "truth in packaging" here, huh? Me And My Brother From Poland Realty has been getting away with murder with these apartment buildings.
It's amazing when I hear the revisionist historical clap "the white people made progress while colored people didn't do anything".
I won't go much into it, but read the history books by Will Durant (a white guy) and stack up the achievements made by whites and non-whites. You be the judge.
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I wrote the original post - whites are not the smartest, the East Asian has statistically shown himself smarter, this is not some white supremacist thing. But the East Asian invents nothing. The Japanese refine and make better, but they don't invent ... never have. The Asian Indian is very bright, and a great citizen of the world generally. But they don't invent either. THe reason northwest Europe and Christendom has dominated the last 2 centuries or so, in a nutshell are #1 Christianity and #2 generally high intelligence combined with an individualistic mindset.
But thanks for the tip, I'd be very interested in reading Durant.
"Ireland Realty" is involved in foreclosures too.
Bullshit, it was all because you are a minority, not because of any achievement on your part. They didn't give my kid the option. Guess what? If you got a jump over more qualified individuals, you are inferior. As long as affirmative action is around you will never be equal. We know the thought of being favored kicks around in the back of your mind, knowing you don't deserve what you have but it was given to you because of your race and gender.
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Sir,
You sound like a disgruntled middle class worker who is just salty that your kid wasn't bright enough to land some scholarships or for that matter- not "dark" enough. Whatever the case may be, I did receive financial aid and I EARNED my degree. I am an American and if any kid was entitled to it... I was that kid. I have worked since I was 14 years old. I know what it is to go to school, to work and to volunteer. I do not make any excuses for pieces of shit - not for your pieces of shit people or for my pieces of shit people! I want people to come here and progress.
It takes time to progress. Every generation is meant to strive more than the previous generation.
I hear a lot of talk about Mexicans being dirty or living in groups in an apartment/ house. Basically, Mexicans are accused of being ignorant to many of our norms. What groups of immigrants did Jane Addams serve? Jane Addams attempted to teach European immigrants of our social norms. Please do not make it seem that European immigrants came to the U.S. smelling of roses.
European immigrants were ignorant and a tad bit ghetto at their time of arrival. Mexican immigrants currently reside in some of the very neighborhoods that served as a stepping stone to your great grandparents. Mexicans deserve their chance to progress too!
With that being said, you all are entitled to your opinion and so am I.
Mexicans are a force to be reckoned with. I am sure that you will enjoy it when a Mexican-American becomes President... it will happen and it will happen soon!
Thanks for the discussion.
Respectfully,
1976
Sir,
You sound like a disgruntled middle class worker who is just salty that your kid wasn't bright enough to land some scholarships or for that matter- not "dark" enough.
Wrong. My kid graduated with honors. His major was in English. He was a teacher's assistant, on his own time, helping Hispanic students brush up on their grammar skills. Don't assume anything.
I really don't care what you think you deserve. You were given an unfair advantage. You will never measure up to those who made their own way without help from the government. So don't think you are better than this "disgruntled middle class worker."
As long as there is affirmative action and racial preferences, minorities will never be looked at as having equal abilities.
Mexicans are a force to be reckoned with. I am sure that you will enjoy it when a Mexican-American becomes President... it will happen and it will happen soon!
Force to be reckoned with? Who is the racist here? The only reason you say this is because our government is acting against the will of the people and will try to force amnesty down our throats.
The Democrats know that they lost a large part of their voting bloc because of their shenanagins, and they need new dupes to stuff the ballot box this November. Sorry to say, but by the time a "Mexican-American" becomes president, this country will already be a third world shit-hole, like Mexico. So enjoy. Because that is probably what you are used to.
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