Half a Million?
The City Council today agreed to pay $500,000 to the family of a man who died in 2005 after being Tasered by a Chicago police sergeant.
The sergeant used a Taser on Ronald Hasse, 45, for 62 seconds when he resisted police trying to take him into custody. Hasse later died from “electrocution due to taser application” with crystal methamphetamine intoxication as a “significant contributing factor.”
"Excited Delirium" is the name being bandied about. Of course, 62 seconds on the trigger could be 62 seconds of paralysis of the diaphragm and respiratory musculature leading to death. And then there's the "being a meth-head" factor.
Does anyone know if TASER Inc. is fighting the "electrocution" allegation?
Does anyone know if TASER Inc. is fighting the "electrocution" allegation?
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posted by SCC at 1:03 AM
43 Comments:
If I remember correctly from the taser training, the makers of the taser fight all lawsuits and have yet to lose one.
SCC, are you downgrading Taser International (TASR) stock from hold to sell?
On the bright side, think of all the money the city saves by not having to house the honor student in prison in the future.
"...with crystal methamphetamine intoxication as a 'significant contributing factor.'"
Are they suing his dope dealer, too??
TASER International fights every wrongful death case and has yet to lose one.
Mr Meth died from too much dope, not electrocution.
Another example of the City pissing away money.
The Ghetto Lottery strikes again!
I read early on that the level of methamphetamine in his body was fatal, a lethal dose.
The taser just pushed him along a bit. His "family" just got a little City of Chicago insurance money is all.
If the Federal government wanted to do something about crime in Chicago they could start by indicting some of Flint Taylor's and Jon Loevy's clients for perjury in their claims for "jackpot justice".
This would go a long way to restoring the morale of detectives and therefore encouraging them to do more!
And they wonder why everyone resists. And they wonder why the good people want to move out of here. And they wonder why the city clams broke. This shit gets me disgusted. I'm voting all these goofs out and I just hope everyone joins me.
Was told by the taser instructors at training that if thier's a law suit for a death caused by the tasers the company would send thier lawers out and would pay the bill. Guess not???? Oh well one less oxygen stealer and one ok officer phyiscally and finanicaly....maybe it was worth the pay out.
city has $$$$ for lawsuits and 98mil. for ''another project''. yet we get 2% while pols cry poor. solition...get off your asses and vote! take your family and friends.
Does anyone know if TASER Inc. is fighting the "electrocution" allegation?
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No, I don't know.
The sergeant used to be my partner in the Detective Division. His honor and integrity are above reproach. I even bestowed the nickname "Monsignor" on this gentleman. Unless he was left with no options, he wouldn't even swat an annoying fly. He is an outstanding police officer and a great credit to the Chicago Police Department.
Retirement is soooooo great, my brother!
The sergeant used a Taser on Ronald Hasse, 45, for 62 seconds when he resisted police trying to take him into custody. Hasse later died from “electrocution due to taser application” with crystal methamphetamine intoxication as a “significant contributing factor.”
Just think... If Ronnie didnt resist, he'd still be alive today. So even in death, you still get rewarded (ok, your family; 'cause you dead!) for being disobedent. How sad.
TASER Inc usualy fights these suits and so far has a damn good track record.
In all future taser applications on berserk subjects resisting arrest, the officer must first ask if the mutt is under the influence of crystal meth. If the subject fails to respond to the inquiry, police must assume that the taser will be as lethal as a hollow-point bullet to the heart.
Another half million taxpayer dollars pissed away by the City of Chicago.
Okay. Bring back "the cocobolo shampoo".
TASER, Inc. fights like hell on these cases. They can't afford not to, because there are a boatload of ambulance chasers out there who understand they can (1) make money for running TASER out of business, and (2) that once TASER is out of business, cops will be shooting and killing more mopes - and that, too, means more money for the ambulance chasers.
TASER, bless 'em, is fighting against that win/win for the plaintiff's bar.
This was my job. It was an assist CFD with a mental. CFD were there for 15 minutes before they called for police. I was the one who called for a Sgt. with a taser.
I watched Hasse fight with 6 Police Officers and figherfighters while trying to handcuff him in a small enclosed hallway. I figured that we couldn't peper spray him without feeling the effects ourselves. Hasse had superhuman strength, so I called for a taser because after seeing what he did to throw off 6 average to large males who were trying to restrain him; I would have shot him if he came at me.
This pisses me off!!! We were ready to go to court on this case when the city decides to cave in.
I can't wait to get ouy of this god forsaken shithole of a city!!!!
"Don't Tass Me Bro" Well Maybe If We Can Get A Payday Out Of This.
I had a case in domestic violence court the other day. I was in uniform. The jury for branch 46 walked by me. They looked at me, as if I was the Defendant in some case. I may be crazy,but they all looked at me as if I was guilty of something, and could not wait to sentence to death.
PS: Have A Nice Nice Day ???
taser co. fights all lawsuits because they have the money and they always win..Dont think they have ever paid out...
1/2 a million for a hoped-up pis bum. WTF. The City oughta give the copper who tased that piece of sshit 500 large & a promotion for doing us all a favor.
SCC, I trust that the Sgt. involved use the 'juice' necessary to bring a violent situation under control. This guy was under the influence of meth...it's well documented that these controlled substances have an effect on the effects of the taser.
Obiously, the city has agreed to this half mil 'go away' settlement, but they shouldn't have. Law enforcement cannot be held accountable for the addictions of others. And didn't the deceased claim to the officers involved that he was HIV positive, and attempt to bite them? I probably would have put away the taser and pulled my Glock instead, under those circumstances.
You guys complain when city settles and when officers pay out of their pockets. Every suit the city settles is one less that has the possibility of any officer having to pay. So wake up and realize that when the city settles thats good for us.
comment from "Northside",7/29/2010, 9:19 a.m.:: I couldn't agree more with you, this supervisor is the definition of a GOOD MAN. his integrity is of the highest grade, and for that HE is and WILL always be RESPECTED!!!!you don't get too many supervisors who do their job, know their job, and have the unconditional support/respect of all of his subordinates. this is in no way a REFLECTION of the person that he is and will always be.
I can not believe that the city didn't fight this in court, really SAD.
SGT., WE THINK YOU ARE THE BEST, AND IF I OR ANY ONE OF US WERE EVER IN NEED OF ANYTHING, WE KNOW YOU WOULD BE THERE FOR US, AND PLEASE KNOW THAT WE STAND WITH YOU, AND ARE PROUD TO DO SO!!!
work for the Sgt. and will say that he is an honorable human being! I ask all to please refrain from using his name/last name. this is a man whose privacy needs to be RESPECTED. tnx u all, everyone should only be SO LUCKY to work for such a GREAT person.
It wasn't his fault he was wasted on illegal narcotics. It wasn't his fault that he violated the law and resulted in his being arrested. It wasn't his fault that he became violent and resisted arrest. It is all the tasers fault and I suspect that they will now go after the Sergeant for a personal lawsuit too.
So with this thinking, if a shithead points a weapon at you and he ends up dead from lead poisoning then they will sue the city and you for that also.
The city attorney is too busy fighting Daleys unconstitutional gun laws to take the time to fight these cases. This city is fucked!
If I remember correctly from the taser training, the makers of the taser fight all lawsuits and have yet to lose one.
That might be true but Corp Council is the biggest bunch of clouted family city bosses kids and they couldn't successfully litigate shit. Thats why they settle.
Our congressmen and senators need to come up with some laws to protect police officers, cities and states from the greedy cocksucking lawyers like Flint Taylor and Jon Loevy. Fuck You Flint! Fuck YOU Jon!
wasn't he the gay HIV meth head police fighter???
but it was the actions of the police that killed him
You guys complain when city settles and when officers pay out of their pockets. Every suit the city settles is one less that has the possibility of any officer having to pay. So wake up and realize that when the city settles thats good for us
I AGREE!!!, Let the city settle all the time. Too many police are getting hit with punitive damages by goofy jurors
cut the 15 man mayor's security detail
It's because of news such as this that I retired 16Jul10. Couldn't take the pressure anymore. Sgt. 59yrs and 29+.
"Our congressmen and senators need to come up with some laws to protect police officers, cities and states from the greedy cocksucking lawyers like Flint Taylor and Jon Loevy."
You're forgetting that most of them are lawyers, too. (although likely lousy ones, or else they'd actually be PRACTICING law, not making it).
Not to mention the campaign contributions...
Anonymous said...
..I retired 16Jul10... Sgt. 59yrs and 29+.
7/29/2010 10:21:00 PM
Thanks for your years of service---hope you enjoy every single day of your retirement
Taser kills,end of story.It needs to be treated as a Less-lethal option.Sorry kool-aide drinkers.
Taser Int doesnt even know how to properly market their product and has lied for years.
Excited Delerium(ED) is a total junk science bullshit made up condition.
The American Medical Association and the American Psychiatric Assocition do not recognize it as a bonified medical condidtion.
Taser is not the non-lethal set for stun miracle for LEOs.
Anonymous said...
taser co. fights all lawsuits because they have the money and they always win..Dont think they have ever paid out...
7/29/2010 01:01:00 PM
You are wrong.
Taser International Inc.'s shares plummeted Monday, three days after the Scottsdale-based company lost its first lawsuit.
A jury in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California ordered Taser on Friday to pay $6.2 million in damages to the family of Robert C. Heston.
Heston, of Salinas, Calif., died Feb. 19, 2005, after being hit multiple times with Taser stun guns by Salinas police officers.
I knew Hasse for years. Believe it or not he'd been a broker at the CBOT for Merril Lynch. At best he was a homosexual cocaine dealer-he made 100's of thousands as a dealer, going back to the 1970's. At worst, he was a STRONG suspect in an Indiana murder. When I read about his death I figured "suicide by cop." Either way, the world has little reason to mourn his passing. Good riddance.
Blogger Frustrated 50 said...
This was my job. It was an assist CFD with a mental. CFD were there for 15 minutes before they called for police. I was the one who called for a Sgt. with a taser.
I watched Hasse fight with 6 Police Officers and figherfighters while trying to handcuff him in a small enclosed hallway. I figured that we couldn't peper spray him without feeling the effects ourselves. Hasse had superhuman strength, so I called for a taser because after seeing what he did to throw off 6 average to large males who were trying to restrain him; I would have shot him if he came at me.
This pisses me off!!! We were ready to go to court on this case when the city decides to cave in.
I can't wait to get ouy of this god forsaken shithole of a city!!!!
7/29/2010 11:48:00 AM
I'm curious as to why he needed 62 seconds of shock therapy. How long does it take to get cuffs on??
worked for the Sgt. and never heard anything bad abot him. we all had a lot of respect because he really is a terrific person.
Anonymous said...
Blogger Frustrated 50 said...
This was my job. It was an assist CFD with a mental. CFD were there for 15 minutes before they called for police. I was the one who called for a Sgt. with a taser.
I watched Hasse fight with 6 Police Officers and figherfighters while trying to handcuff him in a small enclosed hallway. I figured that we couldn't peper spray him without feeling the effects ourselves. Hasse had superhuman strength, so I called for a taser because after seeing what he did to throw off 6 average to large males who were trying to restrain him; I would have shot him if he came at me.
This pisses me off!!! We were ready to go to court on this case when the city decides to cave in.
I can't wait to get ouy of this god forsaken shithole of a city!!!!
7/29/2010 11:48:00 AM
I'm curious as to why he needed 62 seconds of shock therapy. How long does it take to get cuffs on??
7/30/2010 10:41:00 AM
Didn't you bother to read the comment you commented on? Ever confronted someone high, I mean real real high? On coke or crack or meth? It is unreal. I was in on an arrest of a big Polish guy who punched out his girlfriend. Six male police officers had a hard time getting cuffs on him. It was iffy with six, we had him down and he was standing up, with all six of us holding him! No taser. It is unbelievable the strength someone severely under the influence can muster.
Anonymous said...
"Our congressmen and senators need to come up with some laws to protect police officers, cities and states from the greedy cocksucking lawyers like Flint Taylor and Jon Loevy."
You're forgetting that most of them are lawyers, too. (although likely lousy ones, or else they'd actually be PRACTICING law, not making it).
Not to mention the campaign contributions...
7/30/2010 01:03:00 AM
The trial lawyers are a powerful lobbying group, especially in Illinois. No tort reform will ever get passed that they do not approve.
I will never forget the one fight I had about 9 years ago with a 24 y.o.,5'8, 170 lb. punk. it took 12police officers to get cuff on these goof. 12 hours later he tells the lock-up that he had used pcp. these punk has the strength of an elephant, and because the pcp, he wasn't feeling anything. when people are under the influence of any drugs, remember that we are not! thus, wait for back-up, and have your hands and tools ready. we are not superhuman, and we do not need to get hurt.
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