Hydrant Tampering?
All those cameras downtown and no one has seen anything regarding this?
- A few weeks ago cfd conducted a 'routine' check and found beach towels shoved into many fire hydrants downtown. Specifically fire hydrants around city hall and both federal buildings. If undetected during an actual fire, cfd equipment/trucks would swallow up the towels and be blown.
- 100 percent true, then each house a list of hydrants to check.
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posted by SCC at 12:31 AM
62 Comments:
"Specifically fire hydrants around City Hall and both Federal buildings."
Sounds like a "random act" to me.
"Curses!! Foiled again!"
Snidely Whiplash
Counter terrorism in this town doesn't really exist. We've been on the Daley plan of, "It won't happen here."
Those who know something about the subject are looked upon as nut jobs. Only in this town would that happen.
Maggie didn't like the look of guns at our airports after 9-11 so the military had to go. Does that tell you something?
We're the only major city in the country with an UNARMED airport police force because of Daley. Does that tell you anything?
But don't worry, folks. Daley tore up Miegs Field in the middle of the night for "terrorism" reasons. We'll be safe now until Rahm gets here.
Marked police cars stolen from the 025th District police lot (still not recovered), mars lights stolen off several marked police vehicles, towels in the fire hydrants protecting top level government and civilian buildings and hundreds of taxi cabs already painted in similar if not identical styles to marked police cars of the same make and model... Well I did have my second TARA class of the last 5 years so I guess we are prepared after all!!!
Could be a shark bump, these pricks are testing the waters everywhere and we are at the top of the list. Cfd needs to get their heads out of the clouds and wake up. Be careful out there boys n gals,
That is some scary shit!
Hmmm.... Those silly Amish people again.....
Besides all that, why would there be an orchestrated tampering of fire hydrants in the hub of a major city unless someone was planning something and wanted to disable first offenders?
---not a cop
I assume the CFD engines and trucks have strainers in their intake ports to prevent objects from entering the pump. So, while it may have plugged the intake, and could have caused some delay in getting water, it would not have "blown" the pump.
Blame the yuppies.
Yeah, dont tell the Police, that would make too much sense.
Boy, this Mayoral race is even nastier than even I thought it would be, and I am the newly appointed civilian Director of Cynicism for the Department.
The next act of terrorism is going to hit Chicago, just seems like too much stuff going on in our area. Hope to God we're prepared.
A terrorist plot, vandalism, who knows.
However, the fire dept. is trained to bleed the hydrant first prior to putting on a hose, especially in certain neighborhoods where the caps are missing and it becomes the ghetto-garbage can.
OT: Just one more reason crime is so out of control in the Cook County Area
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-met-pickpocket-20100925,0,7251341.story?page=1
How exactly does a person stuff anything into a fire hydrant? Seems strange but suspicious; I look forward to more information from your blog.
Believe it or not SCC the CFD did let the CPD know about this. The information was given to the upper levels of the CPD who then in turn were supposed to forward this information. I may still have a copy of the email that was passed down to us from our LT. His email came from Georgas(sp?). Anyway, if you didn't hear about it it was either that your boss didn't think you needed to know (cuz he's an idiot) or the boss thought it was just bullshit (cuz he's an idiot).
It's not practical to inform every cop of such sensitive information.
very true story...its been happening for weeks now...all kept very quiet.
Police know. It's not a big deal.
amazing! this is the first i'm hearing of this right here right now. I get most of my police info off this site and i'm a boss!!
Well, at least its on camera, since almost every inch of downtown is covered, and especially around city hall.
Wait, camera not working right?
Lets call another friend of the mayor and give him more cash for a system thats not working right.
Daley and his cronies can't even protect city hall!
Read the newspapers and daily bulletins.
Just in September at least 5 L.E. vehicles had the light bars stolen. 2 State Police,2 CPD, and 1 Forest Preserve Police. Also a homeland security vehicle with uniforms inside was stolen.
Also many police weapons, vests, IDs, and stars taken in residential burglaries at least once a week.
We are so NOT READY to deal with a terrorist attack. It's coming, and all the POTUS can say is "the U.S. can absorb another 9-11 type attack" I think the President's past cocaine use has clouded his ability to think!
Maybe CFD needs a crystal ball unit so they can see these things coming before they happen.
This was read at roll call a few weeks back, and to be on the look- out for people tampering with hydrants - also the water department would be going around checking the hydrants... ya gotta pay attention!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's not practical to inform every cop of such sensitive information.
9/25/2010 09:00:00 AM
Why not? Whats so impractical about a bulletin? Bulletins are put out all the time over all kinds of issues and I would think this qualifies. This seems to me to be more than a "Shark Bump" as in testing the waters, it seems to me as a significant "Step in furtherance" to accomplish some goal. I think we are going to get hit.
Sorta like the FBI selling the "fake" bomb to the guy to plant at Addison and Clark. NO ONE in 019 or 023 knew anything about it until they saw it on the news............
If we need to be told that tampering with a hydrant is suspicious, then we're in trouble.
A terrorist plot, vandalism, who knows.
However, the fire dept. is trained to bleed the hydrant first prior to putting on a hose, especially in certain neighborhoods where the caps are missing and it becomes the ghetto-garbage can.
9/25/2010 08:27:00 AM
Vandalism? In the middle of the Loop? That was hidden to interfere with rescue attempts?
I don't know. Vandalism is usually senseless bullshit for the sake of being an asshole. This sounds like something else to me.
I vote with the shark bump.
---not a cop
Anonymous said...
Besides all that, why would there be an orchestrated tampering of fire hydrants in the hub of a major city unless someone was planning something and wanted to disable first offenders?
---not a cop
Hey genius; you meant "first responders".......you are a cop!
2010 08:58:00 AM
Anonymous said...
It's not practical to inform every cop of such sensitive information.
9/25/2010 09:00:00 AM
What the hell are you talking about? If the clouted sgts amy king or rivera can send out e-mails about stupid shit, they can sure as hell exists send e-mails about suspicious acts. We are out here; they are not!
Anyway, if you didn't hear about it it was either that your boss didn't think you needed to know (cuz he's an idiot) or the boss thought it was just bullshit (cuz he's an idiot).
9/25/2010 08:58:00 AM
This could not have been said better. Promoting goofy bosses perpetuates this circle of ignorance!
It's standard CFD operating procedure to flush out the hydrant before hooking up to it. On the west side, the hydrants are loaded with Colt 45 bottles, Chee-Toes wrappers, you name it. Although I've never seen beach towels, and that is an obvious attempt to sabotage firefighting operations. However, it would never work. Flushing would push out the towels, and the CFD Engines have strainers.
Anonymous said...
The next act of terrorism is going to hit Chicago, just seems like too much stuff going on in our area. Hope to God we're prepared.
9/25/2010 08:22:00 AM
Go ask maggie, she seems to believe that hail marys are better than a well protected airport/city.
Will we ever be rid of the knuckle head daley family ideas ?????
FBI raids anti-war activists' homes
Agents looking for links to terrorists, federal spokesman says
September 24, 2010
By Andy Grimm and Cynthia Dizikes, Tribune reporters
Federal agents searched homes of anti-war activists in Chicago and Minneapolis on Friday in an investigation of possible links with terrorist organizations in the Middle East and South America.
About 20 FBI agents spent most of the day searching the Logan Square residence of activists Stephanie Weiner and Joseph Iosbaker, Weiner said.
Weiner [is] a teacher at Wilbur Wright College. Iosbaker is a staff member at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
In Jefferson Park, neighbors saw FBI agents carrying boxes from the apartment of community activist Hatem Abudayyeh, executive director of the Arab American Action Network. In addition, Chicago activist Thomas Burke said he was served a grand jury subpoena that requested records of any payments to Abudayyeh or his group.
"The warrants are seeking evidence in support of an ongoing Joint Terrorism Task Force investigation into activities concerning the material support of terrorism..."
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-09-24/news/ct-met-fbi-terrorism-investigation-20100924_1_fbi-agents-anti-war-activists-federal-agents
I may still have a copy of the email that was passed down to us from our LT. His email came from Georgas(sp?). Anyway, if you didn't hear about it it was either that your boss didn't think you needed to know (cuz he's an idiot) or the boss thought it was just bullshit (cuz he's an idiot).
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I'm not a cop nor affiliated with SCC, but as a concerned citizen, I'd ask that you forward this email to SCC, simply because I trust SCC more than I do the newspaper to report on this sort of thing.
give that person(s) a commissioner job :)
cfd did inform cpd,that is all.
The “Marauders” (a group of male white suburban youths from Schaumburg and Naperville) did it.
TO: Sorta like the FBI selling the "fake" bomb to the guy to plant at Addison and Clark. NO ONE in 019 or 023 knew anything about it until they saw it on the news............
9/25/2010 12:25:00 PM
Stop being a retarded cop and think like an investigator. Do you seriously think an investigation like that can be exposed to any district or Unit without it being sent to this blog, leaked by drunk talk at a bar or passed to a family member? Think while you work and you'll possibly find that head that gets you to a Superhero Unit.
Here's something for all you young, need-to-know everything in their district, THERE ARE BAD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE IN THIS F'D UP CITY AND THEY WANT TO HURT US AND OUR FAMILIES, RESIDING AND WORKING IN THIS F'D UP CITY. PLEASE BE ON THE LOOK OUT FOR ALL SUSPICIOUS ACTIVITY!
- Concerned Citizen and the Police
Can you imagine how we'd be crucified/second guessed by the media and our bosses, for locking up a Muslim for putting a blanket in a hydrant. We can't even shoot back at someone trying to kill us.
It's not practical to inform every cop of such sensitive information.
9/25/2010 09:00:00 AM
you're a fucking retard. as a matter of practicality, the WC can just read it at roll call. you can't get anymore practical than that.
That's interesting because in the rest of the city our urban terrorists stuff pistols and dope in the fire plugs when they're woking the spot. But beach towels? Perhaps the city is improving after all.
J-fed released statement that if it weren't because of the publics easy access to towels this incident would not have occurred, and that the cameras are working fine.
There are so many cameras interfaced downtown that if they were placed end to end they could wrap around the world 3 times....
those with access to them know it.
Does this mean you can now put a stop on a guy with a towel on his head just for that reason? or is that still considered profiling?
And this F&%#king moron daley has done nothing in 20 years except try to disarm the law abiding citizens. The bitch of it all is when some shit does go down, if he isn't already overseas on some bullshit scam he'll just jump on Okra's helicopter and blow outta here leaving we mere vassals to breath in the anthrax
Ahh but we are going for another 8 hour bullshit tara class with gas mask training yea we are safe,if you see the police running folks run with us!
And lets see are we ready? The president does not ever have enough clout to have CPD cover his residence in chicago like other presidents had what a disgrace! We are so fucked with the mayor and the rest of the 50 cowrads at the top,could this be another reason daley is leaving and moving out of this shit city when he retires! Just another question what does his detail do when he is away overseas? Are they assigned to a district to help with manpower,or get a casper the ghost duck?
Anonymous said...
Besides all that, why would there be an orchestrated tampering of fire hydrants in the hub of a major city unless someone was planning something and wanted to disable first offenders?
---not a cop
Hey genius; you meant "first responders".......you are a cop!
9/25/2010 12:44:00 PM
You're right. I meant to say first responders, not offenders. But I write reports about offenders all day long so...
---not a cop
It's not practical to inform every cop of such sensitive information.
In any other dept, I'd suspect you were being sarcastic. This being CPD, I'm guessing you're a boss, maybe an exempt and being serious.
Anonymous said...
It's not practical to inform every cop of such sensitive information.
9/25/2010 09:00:00 AM
you're a fucking retard. as a matter of practicality, the WC can just read it at roll call. you can't get anymore practical than that.
9/25/2010 06:54:00 PM
You and a couple of other Mensa members need to grasp the sarcasm when presented to you. The above statement was a paraphrase regarding the departments response to training/inform P.O.s of any plan(s) for evacuation and or response to an attack in the CBD.
The “Marauders†(a group of male white suburban youths from Schaumburg and Naperville) did it.9/25/2010 06:05:00 PM
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If its a group of suburban punks that did this, why city hall and the federal buildings?
SAD PART IS WE CAN BE NOTIFIED BY:
BLACKBERRY
ROLL CALL
ON THE PDT
ALL CALLS
DEPARTMENT EMAILS
BUT THE ONLY NOTIFICATIONS I GET LIKE THAT R FOR THE POLICE MEMORIAL!
If someone went and purchased 20, 30, 40 towels, all the same type and label, for the job, that'd be another strong indicator of that "shark bump." Anyone checked on this?
Bombs kinda complicated, dangerous. Fires easy to start. Something smells real bad here.
Remember the County Building...
This was read at my roll call a while back.
It reduces the water pressure when you are using the hydrant for construction, etc. pop the cover, pack the towels, screw in the cover but leave it loose enough, turn it on a little, you got a trickle of water instead of something spaying all over and being noticed.
"Go ask Maggie, she seems to believe that Hail Marys are better than a well protected airport/city."
--9/25/2010 01:52:00 PM
...and what an act that is, coming from people who tear up consecrated ground for money -- erasing a century-old graveyard for a new runway the airlines don't even want.
Move your lips as though you were saying Hail Marys all you want, Richard and Margaret -- the dead of St. Johannes will follow you for all eternity.
SCC knew that was comin' by now (grin).
who ever the fed was that wrote you cannot tell the CPD a secret was correct in saying so. Remember the cpd does not promote becuase their smart, but that they have a phone call. If not for the FBI this city would be in ruins from terror groups. Keep up the great work Fed's in keeping us safe.
You and a couple of other Mensa members need to grasp the sarcasm when presented to you. The above statement was a paraphrase regarding the departments response to training/inform P.O.s of any plan(s) for evacuation and or response to an attack in the CBD.
9/26/2010 12:31:00 AM
I'm a MENSA member and I resent that comment (about MENSA members)!
Point of Information.
If the FF does his job correctly, hge is required to open & flush the hydrant before it is connected to the Engine so this exact thing does not happen. Also there is a cone like screen in each intake port to also prevent this from happening as a 2nd means of safety.
So as long as the Engineer & hydrant man does it right it just won't happen.
How do you stuff a beach towel into a fire hydrant? Wouldn't the water pressure push it back out again?
I'm having trouble imagining how this works.
If you take off the cap, water does not come out until you use a wrench to release the valve on-top of the hydrant
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