Thursday, September 23, 2010

Joe the Cop Dissects CTA Shooting

  • On September 20 I wrote a blog post about the CTA Red Line shooting that occurred last weekend:

    CTA Red Line Shooting: the ghetto shooting template

    I wrote the post in reaction to a number of news items that appeared on September 19. In my opinion, the media coverage followed a pattern that I recognized from other police-involved shootings over the years, right down to specific phrases in the stories. I coined the phrase "ghetto shooting template" to describe that pattern. I was not attempting to be flippant, or deliberately provocative.

    50+ comments later, it's safe to say that I have never seen such a reaction to anything I've written. This is not the first time I've talked about police-involved shootings, or about racial issues in law enforcement, but this time I definitely struck a raw, raw nerve.
"Joe" isn't CPD, but he's local law enforcement and he's been around the block it seems. Click over to his site and search around a bit of his writing. Some really good stuff there.

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43 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe's analysis is dead on. Truth hurts but thats the reality. Single family home, kid raised by the street cause momma was better raised, slinging dope and hanging on the corner more cool than being at school, arrest record- something to be proud of, produce some kids, get baby momma some gov checks and get paid by the city when u fight/get shot by the police. It's the ghetto way of life. Never-ending cycle of fucked up life values and bad choices, thats how i see it everyday life on the beat; although most of these people are perfectly fine with it. We get this all the time when the skewed up ghetto reality(morals, values, rules and made up laws) clash with reality most people live in where people obey laws, take responsibility for their actions and follow common sense. For most readers of this blog at this point i think i'm preaching to the choir pretty well. Good nite

9/23/2010 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like his blog and he gets it.

9/23/2010 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just too bad that the average Joe doesn't know this. It's too much to expect the poverty pimps in the hood to admit this and it's a shame the media people can't/won't admit they actually already know this. Even the most red/lefty media type knows the truth of what joe says, they won't say it because the screaming from the ghetto would be deafening. If you point this out, the "leaders" of the community scream racism.

9/23/2010 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe there should be an investigation into what lawyer provided scripts are handout to these families and witnesses. Another idea would be to bring the case to trial and have the city win it instead of settling it.

9/23/2010 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the media might find that putting up mugshots instead of the played out graduation photo might make for more interesting stories and sell more papers.

People know the deal. They're starting to see the media for the shit bag apologists and yellow journalists that they are. They will publish what they know to be bullshit just to sell a paper.

Example: SNOW! IN CHICAGO! IN THE WINTER!

Give it a rest already.

9/23/2010 05:31:00 AM  
Blogger Michael said...

Basically, what the comments show is that the truth hurts, and as usual, someone cannot handle it.

9/23/2010 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the true test of the 'real' concern for the 'shootee' (only the media calls them a 'victim')by the family is often shown when they get a lawyer and file suit BEFORE they even bury the body.
As you well know,these bottom-feeder lawyers include paying for any funeral expenses as part of their fee.
They know it's a win-win situation for them as the city hands out checks like they hand out pool cars in the Area. Cha-ching!

Nicely put by, Joe the Cop... accurate read.

9/23/2010 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous SANTOS, 189 Legend, Esq. said...

SANTOS, 189 Legend, Esq. said:




Absolutely dead, balls on accurate.

9/23/2010 09:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody ever got hurt by doing what the police told you to do.

This sign should be posted in every school in Illinois. It might save a lot of frustration on both sides of the badge

009 midnights

9/23/2010 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read the comments. Typical " strong black woman" bullshit responses and ghetto grape " juice" response. No matter how many facts you throw into the conversation the more riled up they become. They live in the make beleive world where they beleive that the White man is still oppressing them and keeping them down. Yet everyone gets the opportunity to go to school. Yet they rather be hanging on the corners with their friends. They will always hate the police no matter what good they do. The media will continue to use the ghetto template and the uneducated black community will continue to eat it up.

9/23/2010 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And as Joe states on his blog, the
family will always "lawyer-up" and
contact the media(s), never going
to investigators to see what really
took place. And if the City of
Chicago is broke, with no money to
hire new Police Officers, where are
they finding the hush money to pay-off the dead gangbanger's survivors?

9/23/2010 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Joe the Cop is bulls-eye, dead center with this and yes, the supporters of a throw-away, willfully ignorant lifestyle of non-contribution of anything positive to society, active avoidance of responsibility and constant demands that someone else should fix THEIR self-inflicted problems or else.

We point to Election Night 2008 as our example and object lesson.

It was literally the night of the 200lb five year olds (grande mal victim complex, poor impulse control, misdirected anger, lack of respect for the property/persons of others and openly/boldly challenging lawful authority) being told they were free to do as they pleased because "one of ours" was elected POTUS.

"Y'all Po-leece works for US now... WE runnin' this muthafuckah now, WE put OUR man in the White House, YOU bitches are gonna be sorry y'all fucked with US, WE gonna get Jody on ALL Y'ALL ASSES..."

The unbridled euphoria...

Of those who are used to getting something for nothing.

We laughed to ourselves, then as now.

These misfits have been played by their so called spokesmen, leaders and "translators" for so long they don't even see it.

We have no sympathy whatsoever.

9/23/2010 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 9/23 at 023:00 AM and your comment that "if you point this out, the "leaders" of the community scream racism."

One way to deal with the "racism" comment is to turn it back on the person who makes such a comment, by saying, "I am NOT concerned with your race; I AM concerned with your LACK of values, morals, discipline, respect for the law."

Slap em' back when they use that tired, old cannard of a term. It doesn't work anymore, and we need to make them know it.

9/23/2010 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Read the comments [on Joe the Cop's web site]. Typical 'strong black woman' bull___t responses..."

--9/23/2010 09:29:00 AM

Oh, yes. That is a problem. The very next sentence of that black writer commenting on the Moynihan Report was --

"Further, the report argued that the matriarchal structure of black culture weakened the ability of black men to function as authority figures. This particular notion of black familial life has become a widespread, if not dominant, paradigm for comprehending the social and economic disintegration of late twentieth-century black urban life."

--S. Craig Watkins, Representing: Hip Hop Culture and the Production of Black Cinema

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Moynihan_Report

9/23/2010 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The media will continue to use the ghetto template and the uneducated black community will continue to eat it up..."

--9/23/2010 09:29:00 AM

...along with the unending mess of "thug life" music videos that the Death Establishment keeps vomiting forth. Songs about people being tied up with duct tape and tortured with broomsticks. Think a minute -- just who is it in Hollywood who keeps producing and promoting and profiting from this insane material? Look at the names; if they're hiding, it's in plain sight.

Save your money. Save your children. Save your life. Quit buying this filth.

That goes for those stupid clothes, too -- marketed by the same bunch that makes the videos. That stuff is made in overseas sweatshops for $2.00 and sold here to the ignorant for $200.00 -- sold to the same people who bitch about "living in a food desert." Take that pimp ride over to the store and get your babies some fruit with that money. What kind of foolishness is it when a man walks around tripping over himself, holding his private parts and shouting? Pull up your pants, stupid, and learn to tie your shoes. Time to grow up.

9/23/2010 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Election Night 2008...was literally the night of the 200lb five year olds (grande mal victim complex, poor impulse control, misdirected anger, lack of respect for the property/persons of others and openly/boldly challenging lawful authority) being told they were free to do as they pleased because 'one of ours' was elected POTUS.

'Y'all Po-leece works for US now... WE runnin' this muthafuckah now, WE put OUR man in the White House, YOU bitches are gonna be sorry y'all fucked with US, WE gonna get Jody on ALL Y'ALL ASSES...'

--9/23/2010 11:16:00 AM

Funny -- that's exactly the same speech I heard on a city bus the night Harold Washington was elected. Black guy gets on, stands at the front of the bus, and announces to everyone, "Po-leece gon' beat YOUR ass now."

Harold Washington did greet my (elderly, white) mother on a downtown street. No beating, though.

Get real.

9/23/2010 04:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"These misfits have been played by their so called spokesmen, leaders and 'translators' for so long they don't even see it."

--9/23/2010 11:16:00 AM

B.C.P. is not the only one who's noticed the "translator" phenomenon. You see it every day, and it goes like this --

If a white person says something in plain English, a black person has to repeat it for the other black people. "He say..."

It's too weird.

9/23/2010 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

How were all those "use of force model" experts all on the same train?

These people want the police to make omelets but not to break any eggs

I dont know how I did it for 29 years or how you guys do it now

Please stay safe and join me in retirement

9/23/2010 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous noone90210 said...

Re: beatings
The beatings came from Daley II.

9/23/2010 05:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe the Cop is a great guy and has worked with CPD over the last few years. He is top notch and glad to see somebody speaking the truth for us. Hopefully, the public starts listening.

9/23/2010 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

04:35:00 PM

So true!

...And heaven help the educated black person who crosses paths with the "200lb five year olds."

We've seen the best of "translators" get knocked out of their square by the mere fact that they're in the presence of someone who is black (usually male) that didn't buy into the "school is for girls, gumps and goody two-shoes" mentality.

It's actually pretty damn funny to watch.

As we recall one well respected black Policeman saying when the "c'mon bro" card was played, "MY brothers obey the law..."

Of course we ALL know what the response was from the shit-bird right?

9/23/2010 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous 016 Days said...

Wow, not only was Joe's initial post perfect, his follow-up was even better! Well said! He obviously walks the walk.

9/23/2010 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous North Side Cyclist said...

A "thug life" mentality is spreading farther than you might think. I work (as staff) for a large and expensive local University. Yesterday I saw a very white student wearing a "NO SNITCHING" T-shirt. Which only reinforced my long-held belief that a good percentage of our undergrads at least are overprotected children of privilege who will be lucky to survive their first dose of nasty reality if it ever finds them.

Thanks for pointing me to Joe The Cop's blog.

9/23/2010 06:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I recently was involved in an investigation of a murdered child. It was the usual no one saw a thing. However, once the media was there they were running to get there faces on T.V. claiming to have seen everything Some of the BS was directed at the police for not getting to the call quick enough. The Fusion Center was literally calling us and telling us names of people to interview because they were on T.V. claiming to be witnesses. Once we tracked them down it was the same thing "no we did not see it, yet they had a mouthful when the cameras were on. The other joke was we had to tell the mother to get off the computer because she wanted to see herself on T.V. and the internet; the investigation is still open.

9/23/2010 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Mr. Goodwrench said...

...They know it's a win-win situation for them as the city hands out checks like they hand out pool cars in the Area. Cha-ching!...

A CPD garage gave you a pool car?
Damn your lucky.

9/23/2010 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2 of his posts, including the one linked to here, have been removed.

9/23/2010 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They took Joe's blog posts off. The truth hurts the media too.

9/23/2010 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe the cop replies to a reader about a cop in Orlando who injured a senior citizen. I looked up the article and read a great quote from the Orlando Sentinel's columinist Mike Thomas. The quote is as follows

"There are three things in life we are told never to touch: hot stoves, electrical outlets and cops."

Survival of the fittest and smartest!

9/23/2010 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm. The entire thread at Joe's site is gone! Glad I got to read it yesterday.

9/23/2010 08:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen.

9/23/2010 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny, but you can no longer access the article regarding what hapened on the CTA. Censorship in this city is almost like China. The ghetto mentality, which not everyone possese's is a way of life today, but where are the opporrunities for young black men other than the corner? My answer is jail, but that is me.
Let us take back our city and with a minimum of unecessary death's, especially CPD. Hell, Afghanistan is safer than living in this motherfucker!

9/23/2010 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

links are down

9/23/2010 10:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey the link is dead. You go there and it says Page Not Found.

Evidently, they did not want to have people read the realities of how fragile and polarized this society is.

9/23/2010 10:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The attorneys that do this are just scum.

9/23/2010 11:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Hey [Joe The Cop's] link is dead. You go there and it says 'Page Not Found.'

'Evidently, they did not want to have people read the realities of how fragile and polarized this society is.'

--9/23/2010 10:35:00 PM

Big deal. Some twentysomethings on an insignificant local web site censor the truth. The Web's gotten too big for that.

The very same truth can be found here, on the United States Department of Labor's web site -- the 1965 Moynihan Report, detailing the causes of much of the "inner city pathology" we're seeing even more of today.

http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs
/history/webid-meynihan.htm

Worth studying.

9/24/2010 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city should try more cases? They did that last year to Schalk and Bogucki - both now digging deep to the tune of $70K punitive. Just give the bloodsuckers their money and leave the cops out of it.

9/24/2010 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Funny -- that's exactly the same speech I heard on a city bus the night Harold Washington was elected. Black guy gets on, stands at the front of the bus, and announces to everyone, "Po-leece gon' beat YOUR ass now."

Harold Washington did greet my (elderly, white) mother on a downtown street. No beating, though.

Get real.

9/23/2010 04:31:00 PM<<

Harold Washington was a skilled politician and would greet and any potential voter.

Just remember that the man most responsible for the election of Harold Washington over Jane Byrne was Richard M. Daley.

Jane Byrne loved the police.

9/24/2010 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I recently was involved in an investigation of a murdered child. It was the usual no one saw a thing. However, once the media was there they were running to get there faces on T.V. claiming to have seen everything Some of the BS was directed at the police for not getting to the call quick enough. The Fusion Center was literally calling us and telling us names of people to interview because they were on T.V. claiming to be witnesses. Once we tracked them down it was the same thing "no we did not see it, yet they had a mouthful when the cameras were on. The other joke was we had to tell the mother to get off the computer because she wanted to see herself on T.V. and the internet; the investigation is still open.

9/23/2010 06:25:00 PM

Par for the course in the ghetto.

9/24/2010 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Idon't know if all of it is there, enter

"Joe the Cop" on the search line and enter.

I wonder if Jody will order an IAD investigation like he did with Lt. Andrews?

9/24/2010 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous noone90210 said...

Just remember that the man most responsible for the election of Harold Washington over Jane Byrne was Richard M. Daley. Jane Byrne loved the police. 9/24/2010 10:42:00 AM

At that time, a lot of Daley Worship was in full swing. Harold Washington loved the police too. While it's nice to acknowledge which former mayors loved the police, it's ancient history. In fact, 1983 has been over for 27 years!

Now it the time, to keep eyes on the prize and not allow another Daley clone to dictate over Chicago for the next 21 years! Remember, Daley II, not Washington, destroyed the city over the past 21 years!

9/25/2010 02:51:00 AM  
Anonymous noone90210 said...

It's just too bad that the average Joe doesn't know this. It's too much to expect the poverty pimps in the hood to admit this and it's a shame the media people can't/won't admit they actually already know this. Even the most red/lefty media type knows the truth of what joe says, they won't say it because the screaming from the ghetto would be deafening. If you point this out, the "leaders" of the community scream racism. 9/23/2010 02:23:00 AM

I agree and so does Jones . Scroll or [Ctrl] [F] for --> Did you type

9/25/2010 02:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a book by an author by the name of Larry Elder called, "Stupid Black Men; How to Play the Race Card, and Lose". As a Black man, I would recommend every Black man to read it.

9/25/2010 05:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Settling lawsuits is going to be a way of life because we really don't have any peers, in a court of law. Big cities are afraid that jury pools are tainted and antipolice. Springfield needs to limit the amount these dumb ass family members get. Also, the families should get the money over time like the lottery. Most of the dumb offenders wouldn't be worth much do to getting popped or incarcerated, anyway. Being the way that the police are treated by every entity here in Chicago it's amazing police really care about anyone outside of their family. 99.9% of all police officers wouldn't want to do anything to give some dumb ass' family a chance to get out of the ghetto, on our taxpayer money.

9/26/2010 02:39:00 AM  

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