Lynwood Cop Released
Hours after Will County prosecutors appeared at a court hearing with a Lynwood police officer charged in a bizarre two-state shooting spree, they set him free Tuesday evening with an apology and the hope that he understands their error.
A relieved Brian Dorian, 37, was released from Will County Jail as local law enforcement officials dropped a murder charge against him and resumed their hunt for a man known as the "honeybee gunman." Dorian had been held in lieu of $2.5 million bail since his arrest Friday morning at his Crete home.
"I feel horrible that Brian Dorian went through this," Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow said. "I certainly would apologize for any inconvenience he has suffered. But at the same time, he is a police officer, and if he were in our shoes ... Brian Dorian would have acted the same way."
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
62 Comments:
Will County S.A. is a f&*king joke. They screwed up with the Fox case yrs ago. Well it looks like this guy just hit what we refer to as the Ghetto Lottery
Glasgow apparently wants to make a name for himself by locking up cops...First Drew Peterson, now this Dorian fella.
The Will County State's Attorneys office has a record of sketchy prosecutions and non-prosecutions.
They probably jail more offenders per capita than the Cook County SAO, but the quality ain't always there.
Worse yet for them, they're really gonna have to work on this one once (if) they find the real offender; Dorian was picked out in two line ups.
Maybe O.J. can help them!
I like how the media still tries to paint the copper as a badguy; he was involved in a fatal crash in which a 17 year old was killed. Unfortunate, but hardly related to the matter at hand.
I would hope and assume this officer gets millions of dollars paid by Will County Police & States Attorney Glasgow due to their Rush to Judgment again... MILLIONS !
accidents happen.
I agree with S.C.C. whole heartily. What the hell do I know though? I'm only an Area One Detective. Usually we have to evidence first. Any alibi would have to be checked on BEFORE an arrest. Any DNA would be worked up. But, like I stated earlier I'm only a freak'n half dozen to dozen new cases a day lowly A/1 dick. Good job Glasgow. And how's that Riley Fox case working out for you? And Peterson? Have you figured out yet how much Will (pay out county ) will be paying Peterson?
Dangerous Dangerous Dangerous.
Glassgow has an agenda. He will F%^$%# screw any copper he can. What a piece of S^%$.
The judge and Glasgow ought to be ashamed of themselves. Both should lose their office and get disbarred. I wouldn't hire either of them to do a simple real estate transaction or a quickie uncontested divorce.
How can a guy with a clean background get hammered with a 2.5 million dollar bond? I've seen offenders commit far more heinous acts, and despite having extensive backgrounds had lower bonds.
Brian got hammered because he was a cop plain and simple.
I've had dealings with Lynwood PD. They've always treated me decently.
It seems Will County is just as incompetent, crooked and political as Cook County.
If I was Brian, I'd be giving Riley Fox's dad's attorney a call.
WTF is going on in Will County? The Riley Fox murder was botched, Drew Peterson (although possibly guilty) will be aquitted due to a weak, weak case, and Now this incident!! Hopefully Paul Kaupas (Will Co Sheriff) loses the election too....he's an egomaniac who was patting his detectives on the back the other day during the news conference. Glasgow & Kaupas need to go. This was shotty police work from what I have seen, with an innocent officer having his good name ruined.
Guys, this is one thing that could happen at any time. Just because you are a police officer doesn't mean you are immune from lineups, photo arrays and the like. I remember coming to work one day and and a mutt said " that's him " as I walked into the office pointing at me. Scared the behesus out of me. Trouble was, my sarge was behind me and the mutt was pointing at him. Turns out sarge had an alibi and was not the mutts shooter. Scary though. Real scary.
Wow, this sounds like the rationale used by the CPD to justify the railroading of a few innocent coppers.
Thank God that JUSTICE does prevail in our system!
I hope the copper hires a good lawyer and sues Shit for Brains Glasgow. He indicted this copper to lessen the other fucked up case against Drew Peterson.
I hate Glasgow. Nothing but a politician trying garner votes with horseshit cases. He's dangerous.
My Dear Brother... I hope you sue the living hell out of them! Did you see all those idiots backpeddaling on TV last night. God Bless that Officers Dad, he hit it right on the nail. Defimation of character, slander, and all the punative damages. I hope you clean them out. God Bless!
Jim Glascow:
I tried apologies with the Duke lacrosse defendants. It didn't work. I was disbarred and don't even have a pot to piss in.
Buy a house in Florida and plow your $$$ into offshore accounts before Officer Brian Dorian sues your sorry ass for every cent you've got. Consider flying to Zurich with a steamer trunk load of cash before it's too late.
What goes around, comes around, Jim. Give my regards to Kevin Fox, Craig Stebic and Drew Peterson. Any leads on that unsolved mass murder at Lane Bryant in Tinley Park?
I now get free room and board working for a man raising honeybees.
BURN IN HELL, GLASCOW!
Let's not forget the media who also had this cop already crucified.
Let's see: Lisa Stebic, Riley Fox, Drew Peterson, and now this case. What the heck is gooing on at the Will County States Attorney office. I hope this copper sues the shit out of all of them.
His alibi was that he was at home sitting in front of the computer searching the web---I know they they checked the websites he went to while accessing his computer but how do they prove it was him in front of the computer, using it and not anyone else? computer guru's can you answer this
I"m not sure but isn't Will Co. the place that accused Riley Fox's father too? Is this Glasgow goof up for election? Maybe trying to make a name for himself?
Fuck Glasgow! Sue this cocksucker and demand a federal civil rights indictment against him! Make him a Wide Receiver for Terre Haute!
I would not have that incompetent Glasgow rep me on a parking ticket. This guy is insanely out of control locking people up with little or no evidence. He is incredibly dangerous, more so than Drew Peterson as Drew only kills those he knows. Glasgow randomly chooses victims to lockup and charge with capital crimes.
I'm not a cop and even I knew they had the wrong guy.
What angers me even more is that the family of the boy that died as a result of a traffic accident YEARS ago keeps speaking out about how they "knew it would happen again." The media conveniently leaves out that the kid blew through a stop sign. Way to drag someone's name through the mud for no reason, assholes.
This is friggin still AMERICA. This is bullshit. TOTAL incompetence.
Lawsuit time? The States attorney and the media had already convicted this guy. A regular Joe would do it.
Kind of like winning the gheto lottery? Get en Paid! $$$$$$$$$$!! Also didn't a few detectives get sued out of their own pockets when pos admitted to the murder but hushed up when the state got there, and the state still went with the charges and lost. But at the same time they were police officers and they would understand, right??? Point is when you are police and do the right thing you still get shit on and when you are unjustly shit on you are supposed to take it because you are police. Gues how much money either prosecutors are going have to pay out of their own pocket?...psst hint...NOT A GOD DAMN CENT!!! Another point is if he is a police officer, and not your average pos, you think they would investigate the case a little more thorough because if they did he wouldn't have acted the same way in their shoes and charged a innocent police officer!!
His alibi was that he was at home sitting in front of the computer searching the web---I know they they checked the websites he went to while accessing his computer but how do they prove it was him in front of the computer, using it and not anyone else? computer guru's can you answer this
10/13/2010 07:05:00 AM
If the sites are redtube.com or pornotube.com, it's safe to say it was him on the computer. Who know porn would save the day?
He should get at least $2.5 million which was his bond, and make another $2.5 million as punitive from the Glasgow.
I also like his non-apology:
"I certainly would apologize for any inconvenience he has suffered. But at the same time, he is a police officer, and if he were in our shoes ... Brian Dorian would have acted the same way."
Sounds like he should be a part of the Crystal Ball unit since he knows how someone else would act.
Recent Will County Success Stories. Glasgow claims to fame!
LANE BRYANT MURDERS
Tinley Park police are still sifting through tips received after five women were shot to death at a Lane Bryant store during a botched robbery attempt on Feb. 2, 2008. A sixth woman was shot but survived.
RILEY FOX
Will County initially charged Kevin Fox with the 2004 murder of his 3-year-old daughter, Riley. He was jailed for eight months before DNA evidence cleared him. Convicted sex offender Scott Eby was charged in May with sexually assaulting and murdering the girl.
LISA STEBIC
Plainfield resident Lisa Stebic was last seen April 30, 2007, while in the midst of a divorce from her husband, Craig Stebic. He has been named by police as a person of interest in her disappearance.
DREW PETERSON
Former Bolingbrook police officer Drew Peterson, 56, is jailed on charges he drowned his third wife, Kathleen Savio, in 2004. Last week, a Will County judge, for the second time, dismissed a felony weapons charge against him. Peterson is a suspect in the Oct. 28, 2007, disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy.
In Will county they indict & charge everyone whether innocent or guilty to clear up cases.
In Crook county you can't get anyone charged unless it is a copper.
Good Luck Jimmy! Ha Ha Ha....
Take them to the cleaners officer... sue, sue, sue..
Will County law enforcement is a joke.. It makes Cook County look competent.
"Brian Dorian is a caring, loving man and a ... good cop," said Tim Smith, a retired Lynwood police sergeant. "He is innocent, and he's been accused of a heinous act. I told the family to keep their chin up, this is still America.
10/13/2010 07:05:00 AM says:
"but how do they prove it was him in front of the computer, using it and not anyone else? computer guru's can you answer this"
1) Emails were downloaded to his home PC checked by an IP address timestamped by a server which he had no access to.
2) Websites were visited which recorded and deposited code known as applets and cookies which are timestamped and he could not have altered.
3) He detailed exactly what he had done on his PC which correlated with that investigators found.
or he had person(s) unknown go to his computer and do all this and relay the information to him as alibi for a random killing spree, if he was a master criminal spree killing maniac, I think he would have done better for an alibi.
I won't mention numerous character references (outside of his understandably distraught family), no weapon found, never owned such a weapon, truck wasn't a perfect match, speech mannerisms didn't fit, the more reliable witness didn't pick him, you know the one who had the use of both his eyes, assuming the poor victims who did finger him was in not some way led, he didn't act suspicious or nervous during the traffic stop where the officers involved didn't even think it necessary to search his vehicle, (I know professional courtesy, but come on, if the guys on the stop really thought he was the one, they would have asked to search, and in hind site he would have been better off being searched) he had a witness saying he was at his house drinking coffee during part of the timeline and his friend can be considered reliable and the coffee visit a common occurence, another neighbor puts him leaving his house for the friends house thus destroying the timeline furthur, although this is a rumor, he was shown on a parking lot camera passing an intersection, furthur jacking the timeline,
coupled with Glasgow is over anxious to clear a case and rushes to judgement, everyone in the media loves a dirty cop,
I love the booking photo, which the public look at and see what they think a spree killer might look like, I see a guy on medical really pissed off and upset that he is being fucked, sorry to tell Glasscock, he doesn;t fit the profile of a spree killer, profiling doesn't rely on how someone looks except of course for ethnicity (known in this case) and manner of dress (already known in this case)
ANy other questions 7:05 am poster ?
In brief, his alibi checked out, and there is no other evidence that holds water that he did it, and he doesn't match psychologically,
Don't blame Glasgow for the Kevin/Riley Fox blunder: That was Jeff Tomczak's blunder when he was SA of Will County. Tomczak was up for election and he wanted that feather in his cap: The arrest of SOMEONE for the murder of Riley Fox. Sadly, Kevin Fox broke and admitted killing his daughter. (Why any father who did not kill his child would admit to it is beyond me. I would die first!)
And don't criticize Sherrif Paul Kaupas or Glasgow for the Dorian arrest. Dorian was the one who wasn't forthcoming with what he was doing during the shootings. Dorian told investigators he was watching TV. But he was actually on his computer gazing at some obscene and, as Dorian put it, embarrasing web sites. When computer forensic investigators searched the computer, they discovered and confirmed Dorian was on the computer at the time the shootings were committed.
Did the Sherrif and Glasgow have probable cause to arrest Dorian based on the evidence and eye witness identification? Sure they did. And a judge thought so, too. They did everything correctly including the obtaining of an arrest warrant. Kaupas explained the arrest of Dorian and the facts which led to the arrest on WJOL radio (1340AM) this morning.
And the lesson Dorian should learn is to tell the truth even if he does consider it embarrasing or shameful. Jesus, a man his age should be mature enough to admit to viewing lewd or obscene websites. They're not illegal. Grow up!! He could have saved himself a couple of nights in the Will County jail. (However, it did appear that everyone attending the fund-raising event for him did enjoy themselves!)
Well, I guess I'm going to take a contrary position here.
I actually have little to no problem with them locking up someone up on an active, nutbag shooter case after a vehicle match and eye-witness ID. People have been put to death for as much, in consort with testimony.
What I have a problem with is the crucifixion of this guy in the media prior to the facts being known. Of course, they do this to *everyone* - he just had it particularly bad since the case was higher profile and he was a cop. The media loves that shit.
Someday, if you're ever meandering through a library or an antique shop, see if you can't lay hands on an old newspaper and see how journalists in the old days used to handle stuff like this. Prior to court, all care was given to ensure that the reputation of a potentially innocent person wasn't wrecked. Sure, the 'theories' were put out there, but they were carefully caveated and the feeding-frenzy attitude didn't exist until someone was actually convicted.
Every now and then, this happens. Be it the Richard Jewell case in Atlanta or the Duke Rape Fraud or any of the people who served 20 years, only to be exonerated by advancements in DNA technology proving their innocence, this should be a lesson to all LEOS. Barring red-handed, "no question about it" sort of stuff, in your daily job you're dealing with 'innocent' people- philosophically, anyway- until the courts say otherwise.
What strikes a bit of a nerve here is I'm 100% certain that there are people in these comments raising the indignation flag, by virtue of this guy being a cop, who themselves are probably grave ideological offenders in this regard, when arresting people.
There is no 'special standard' just because the guy was a cop. He got fucked. Who we should focus on here is the horrible, horrible 21st Century Showman media, a bunk eye-witness and a prosecutor who may have some sort of an agenda.
Jimmy Glasgow & Joe Birkett shameless self promoters disguised as crime fighters. The collar counties deserve better
To mr/mrs guru, did u ever hear of a web cam?
The media conveniently leaves out that the kid blew through a stop sign.
An Illinois State Police crash reconstruction report concluded that Dorian was traveling between 83 and 100 mph - well above the 55-mph speed limit - at the time of the crash at Illinois 394 and Richton Road in Crete Township.
The report faulted both drivers, stating that Dorian, then 33, was speeding, and Drapeau, though nearly or completely stopped, didn't yield to Dorian's right of way. Neither Dorian nor Drapeau tested positive for alcohol or drugs. Dorian had no previous traffic tickets before the crash.
The bad news: this poor officer went through hell the past few days. The good news: this "poor" officer will be a multi-millionaire soon! LOL.
HATE TO SAY THIS GUYS - BRACE YOURSELVES
This cop would NOT have been charged in Cook County just based on an ID. That's ALL they had.
Not with additional victims still in the hospital who had not yet viewed a lineup. And not without shooting down the cop's alibi that #1 he was on the computer (and could name the exact websites) and #2 that he visited a friend and had coffee around the time of the shootings.
NEVER IN COOK COUNTY WOULD THIS HAVE BEEN CHARGED.
Let the thrashings begin ...
I also like his non-apology:
"I certainly would apologize for any inconvenience he has suffered. But at the same time, he is a police officer, and if he were in our shoes ... Brian Dorian would have acted the same way."
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Right and then Glascow said something to the effect of "the cop is lucky we have technology" meaning the computer, the cop was using the computer.
What an arrogant dickhead.
I don't expect an apology for the arrest ... ya, mistakes do happen. But how in the fuck do you charge the guy based on, what two witnesses picking him out of a lineup? Well, two can be pretty strong I guess ... but I'd hazard to guess the cop was thinking pretty hard about his alibi and had to have said something at the time.
Maybe we should thank the 48 hour rule?
His alibi was that he was at home sitting in front of the computer searching the web---I know they they checked the websites he went to while accessing his computer but how do they prove it was him in front of the computer, using it and not anyone else? computer guru's can you answer this
10/13/2010 07:05:00 AM
If the sites are redtube.com or pornotube.com, it's safe to say it was him on the computer. Who know porn would save the day?
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I guess the cop sat down with them and told them the exact websites he surfed. Then the computer geeks checked it out and it all matched up.
Go under the bus, nobody knows you.
Crawl out the other side, you got all kinds of friends all of a sudden.
10/13/2010 12:55:00 PM
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ok some very good points
didn't know he was hush hush about the websites
I heard mention of a .38 or.357 Colt revolver, mentioned by the media... No where near a common duty weapon in this day and age. I am going to stick my neck out and say that Officer Dorian likely never owned or used such a weapon. If he had, likely his chief and co-workers would have known about it.
Hey Brian,
Sue The Bastard & enjoy some peace & quiet when the Court empties Glasgow's bank accounts, etc.
Now if this were Chicago...
J-Fled would still pull a Cozzi on
Dorian.
He would find something to bury him with.
At least the Sun-Times ran with a front page headline in big BOLD TYPE..
HE
DIDN'T
DO IT
The allowed them to bury Shorsanks budget with 200 cop hire in the back pages, probably below the Chilean miners being rescued (God Bless 'em.)
well said 12:06pm.
Hey, come on. I mistake Glocks for Colt revolvers all the time...
This does not only happen in Will County but Cook County as well. 26th Street is designed to screw over P.O.'s. If a P.O. is charged with a crime. GUILTY until proven innocnet.
One thing boys and girls, his picture on Facebook showed him in his uniform, never identify yourself as police on social networkin sites, nothing good could come from it.
Damage to carrier wrongful arrest psychological effects, great public publicity.... Worth a cool million $$)
Why yes Mr. Glasgow I understand your rush to accuse and wholly accept your apology. Please don't take the lawsuit against you personally either.
10/13/2010 12:55:00 PM
"And don't criticize Sherrif Paul Kaupas or Glasgow for the Dorian arrest. Dorian was the one who wasn't forthcoming with what he was doing during the shootings. Dorian told investigators he was watching TV.
.........And the lesson Dorian should learn is to tell the truth even if he does consider it embarrasing or shameful. "
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What happen to the "keep your mouth shut and ultilize Miranda ?????? Why is it Doren's fault for not talking....?
"I certainly would apologize for any inconvenience he has suffered. But at the same time, he is a police officer, and if he were in our shoes ... Brian Dorian would have acted the same way."
Not really, I would think he would have done it the correct way...
12:41 you are mistaken these fuckers will lynch a cop in a heart beat..........they dont care about you!!!!!!!!!
How come the posters who always like to point out that Will County is so great because the SA out there doesn't have a felony review unit and they take all cases are so quiet on this one?
sue da fuck out of will county,amazing!
If he was on a website requiring a unique password, that goes a long way toward proving it was him. Who knows?
Good luck to the officer, hope everything works out well for you.
What is 5 days in jail worth these days?
People who have been railroaded and spent years doing hard time get almost nothing when the state finally gets around to admitting its mistake.
Guess again, you Perry Mason wannabes.
Dorian won't get any money because of tort immunity. Will County will dance the "no intentional harm was meant" excuse and Dorian will be lucky - REAL LUCKY - if he gets an "I made a big mistake - sorry" from the county prosecutor's office.
If it was up to me - that prosecutor and all his minions would go to jail or at least get disbarred. We don't need incompetent people in our court system - anywhere.
TOO many incompetent boobs walking around flashing a badge or flashing their attorney ID cards.
You cry about the gangbangers and crime?
Indicting and locking up innocent people for a quick political ego stroke is a heinous crime.
And - it should be dealt with severely.
To all the " sue the shit out of them " posters...judges and prosecuters are IMMUNE from civil lawsuits regarding their official duties...cops, because we have the powers of arrest, are not IMMUNE to such lawsuits....
"Guess again, you Perry Mason wannabes
Dorian won't get any money because of tort immunity"
Guess what:Dorian was ARRESTED by the Will County Sheriff's office. Then they admitted an error and dismissed the case.
That amounts to false arrest, malicious prosecution,emotional distress,and damage to reputation.
The did it at the blessing and behest of the Will County State's attorney's office who has a checkered history. Will County, like most prosecuting attorneys, did it solely for political advancement" no one is immune, ain't no camaraderie when it comes to locking up cops, blah blah blah."
It writes itself.
Dorian is emotionally damaged, humiliated and his reputation is harmed. The news of his alleged crime spree went national. Being 37 years old, its hard to imagine that he will ever get another law enforcement job behind this.
That being said, while these idiotic judges and states attorneys enjoy immunity, the Will County Sheriff's police will not. You even said so yourself.
I'm not a friend of Dorian, I have nothing to do with the case except as an outside spectator, a police officer that's livid at the railroading Dorian got.
That Will County police dept better have the civil division of their state's attorney's office on standby, they're going to need them.Ask Kevin" Thanks Glasgow!" Fox.
And by the way, Judge Wapner, Perry Mason was a criminal defense, not a civil trial,
attorney.
Guess what:Dorian was ARRESTED by the Will County Sheriff's office. Then they admitted an error and dismissed the case.
That amounts to false arrest, malicious prosecution,emotional distress,and damage to reputation.
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They stood by their arrest, moron.
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