Morale Survey - One Year Plus
Passing through the archives, we found that the one year anniversary of the "Morale Survey" results being sealed in a blue barrel and buried in a lonely farm field somewhere near Peotone had passed without noting. Our article from that fateful day can be located at this link here:
- word is that the spring morale survey has been completed but was ordered buried because jfed was in fact the cause of the shit morale the department currently enjoys
jfed had promised that if it was learned that he was to blame for poor morale he would quit. another broken promise from the lying non-police fed
Just another in a long string of lies told by our fearful leader.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
88 Comments:
Those who work with me know this is true and I wanted to make sure you all hear it. My team received an award for catching a guy responsible for 23 robberies. We were told we can go to the award ceremony or just get the award in police mail. My Dad is 82 and this is my 1st award and I know he would love to go to a ceremony so I asked him and sure enough he wanted to go with me and was very excited. So we show up and he said minutes before I was to receive the award thatit looks like I had to shake hands with JFLED and I said we are suppose to do it for a picture but I don't want to so I will just take the award and keep walking, he smiles and said nicely done son. So wo go up on satge and when JFLED put out his hand I refused and so did my dad. Jfled seemed shocked and as the picture was being taken Jfled started to move away ruining the pic but little did he know I got a copy of it anyway and it is freaking awesome. Me and my dad have big smile with an arm over each others shoulder and Jfled pouting and turning away. Thanks, Jfled for the priceless pic you vanity whore/ freaking stroke. T.G. Southside
Well Weis can't release the infamous Morale & Stress Survey; he's not done destroying the morale and driving stress levels through the roof yet!
"If I...saw that I was the cause of (poor) morale in this department, no one would have to ask me to leave. I would leave on my own."
- J-FLED, April 2, 2009
O.T. - We have a big problem Houston! The FOP by backing Ald. Doherty for state senate screwed up! Doherty is a nice guy, but regardless the FOP needs to stay focused on its agenda.
Among the topics on the FOP's agenda are PENSIONS! The FOP administration in the veto session is going to have to grapple with pension issues such as the 3% cola. The FOP backing Doherty was a mistake given Democrats control both chambers.
FOP should FOIA the survey!
Slow day SCC?
OT ~ Parking meters in Chicago stolen
Police say about 20 of the 200-pound machines have been taken in recent weeks. Four of them have been recovered.
OT ~ PO on ATV hurt? On morning news. Nothing further.
As Police Officers we all know the meaning of a " Whore ", someone with low morals, no values, and will do just about anything for cash. Sounds like J-Fled is the masters of the oldest profession.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/cityhall/2794028,CST-NWS-cops12web.article
FOIA, FOIA, FOIA, FOIA, FOIA
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves
The phrase "The BEATINGS will CONTINUE until MORALE IMPROVES" is a famous quote of questionable origin. It literally denotes how morale, possibly in a military unit or some other rigid environment, will be kept high through the use of physical violence. More importantly, the phrase is used sarcastically to indicate the counterproductive nature of punishment, and by extension, of excessive control over subordinates such as children at home or staff at the workplace. The origin of the phrase is largely unknown. The most commonly cited story for the origin of the phrase comes from the Japanese Imperial Navy during World War II.
(See also: "All Your Base Are Belong To Us" video game origin & music video by Jodi & his Masterz ;=)~
post the photo
he's camera shy
Any truth to the Sgt list coming down?
Does it make a difference with no pension. ? I have posted before with the following
Pension goes belly up
earliest -2018
latest -2022
Now there is a study out by Finance geeks saying city pension funds will be bellyup by 2020.
Not bad for an old retired guy
Anonymous said...
Those who work with me know this is true and I wanted to make sure you all hear it. My team received an award for catching a guy responsible for 23 robberies. We were told we can go to the award ceremony or just get the award in police mail. My Dad is 82 and this is my 1st award and I know he would love to go to a ceremony so I asked him and sure enough he wanted to go with me and was very excited. So we show up and he said minutes before I was to receive the award thatit looks like I had to shake hands with JFLED and I said we are suppose to do it for a picture but I don't want to so I will just take the award and keep walking, he smiles and said nicely done son. So wo go up on satge and when JFLED put out his hand I refused and so did my dad. Jfled seemed shocked and as the picture was being taken Jfled started to move away ruining the pic but little did he know I got a copy of it anyway and it is freaking awesome. Me and my dad have big smile with an arm over each others shoulder and Jfled pouting and turning away. Thanks, Jfled for the priceless pic you vanity whore/ freaking stroke. T.G. Southside
10/12/2010 12:31:00 AM
This is awesome. You've got some balls my friend.
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so it is o.k. for a FED to lie. you just can't lie to a FED? now i understand everything!
Speaking of Pensions
The First 10 City Pensions That Will Run Out Of Money
We're #2 !!
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Unfunded Liability $44.8 million
Unfunded Liability Per Household $41,966
Solvency Horizon 2019 per Robert Novy-Marx and Joshua Rauh (see above link for ref PDF)
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With ten percent of the households being unemployed I guess taxes will have to go up way more than $42K per household in this report. Not to mention how many years a Wal-Mart worker will have to work to pay their share.
They cut and ran. I hope people show up at the poles in November. These career politicians have to go.
off topic:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7720256
more fuel for the barf machine. 200more officers and problem solved. is it me or does daley seem wasted half the time in these press conferences?
O.T. but vital that you're aware of the following:
Socialist obama is interfering with the ability of the active military to receive ballots to vote this November 2. Read the following:
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2605979/posts
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2606091/posts
ALSO, obama's Civilian National Security Force is in full swing. Time Magazine is going to run their cover story on obama's Civilian National Security Force in next week's issue. Read the following article, and the comments.
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2605468/posts
Doherty states he wants to get rid of all goverment worker pensions and go 401K...so you can work until you are 75
Anonymous said...
Doherty states he wants to get rid of all goverment worker pensions and go 401K...so you can work until you are 75
10/12/2010 03:06:00 PM
When he is sober he has decent ideas. Unfortunately he likes to drink.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O.T. but vital that you're aware of the following:
Socialist obama is interfering with the ability of the active military to receive ballots to vote this November 2. Read the following:
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2605979/posts
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2606091/posts
ALSO, obama's Civilian National Security Force is in full swing. Time Magazine is going to run their cover story on obama's Civilian National Security Force in next week's issue. Read the following article, and the comments.
www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2605468/posts
10/12/2010 02:59:00 PM
Another FReeper on S.C.C.? Good to see.
We have Morale in this department?
Who Knew?
I though Morale and morals went out the window in 1999.
Harry Carry Sorry ment to say do the honorable thing J and Leave. Your too much a coward to do anything else-Semper Fi
Pensions DON'T VOTE QUINN HE WILL CUTUR FUTURE PENSIONS Rigth after the election if he wins!! Just Vote DEM ike Daley wants
Doherty states he wants to get rid of all goverment worker pensions and go 401K...so you can work until you are 75...
fuck that 20 in 011 and Im fucking done..wait.. ill stay till im 75 if you blow me every year on my Anniversary LIFM
Area 4 saturation teams just found out they got dumped going back to wherever the hell they came from on Thursday
W O W !
How about this south suburban copper that got nailed for the random shootings.
It sound like they really jackpoted this guy.
His pickup truck matches the description of the shooters truck so they put him in a lineup and he winds up getting fucked.
Thats all they have on him?????
No weapon? No evidence?
All I can say is WOW....
fucked up.
Well, anyone stupid and naive enough to take a morale survey of a bunch of cops gets what he deserves. I can go as far back as 1967 and I really don't think the morale was high. Just the nature of the job. Cops love to complain and bitch.
Get rid of the gold braid bill for starters. Stop using the pension to fuel the patronage machine. The city will have to raise taxes to keep the pensions fund solvent, but the question is by how much can they raise taxes in a city with 1/7 of the residents below the poverty level. things will get ugly.
Socialist obama is interfering
Thanks son, I agree I own a company for over 30 years I had to work two jobs to save and start my company and yet this guy raised the minimum wage, pissed me off. I own my company I can hire and fire as I see fit that's the American way- Unions are not good for the work force they only keep you down. from time to time I have had to employ illegals at $5.00 dollars an hour if they come to this country to work and I need them I can use them its their fault, if you don't like the pay don't come here. My workers come and go I don't care if you don't like it here leave and start your own business- work two jobs like I did.
They cut and ran. I hope people show up at the poles in November. These career politicians have to go.
You may want to look at them first- Republicans across the board say let your pension fail- others say cut some of the benefits, and others say Help them out.
I don't have time to work another job (to old). I'm voting for help them out.
Socialist obama
REFUSE MEDICARE that's a start.
remember boys and girls in blue
we're protected by the union
in a few months all the triple merit , now exempt command staff
will be back in the district with us , just remember you probably know more about police work than they ever will
most of our command staff never passed a promotional exam in the top 10 % , it's all who they knew or blew , you'll figure it out
SCC Your columns crack me up. I am a former blushirt beat car driving alumnus of CPD 86-5B who is now a federal agent. You write as though the major prerequiste to being Superintendant of the Chicago Police is having been a po before. My friend you are very wrong. Guys who were cops have ran the CPD into the ground thus leading to the appointment of Weis. The major prerequisites of being a successful law enforcement executive are having integrity, the vision and intellect to set a course that will lead to success and organizational evolution. Having a thick enough skin to ignore reactionary cops and corrupt politicians who would dissuade you from executing the change the CPD needs if it is to enter the 21 Century, is the greatest attribute any superintendant in Chicago will need. If a guy/gal can manage a field division of the FBI, USSS, DEA, or ICE he/she has the skills to lead the CPD! As far as wearing the uniform, who cares! If I earned $310,000 per year and had a choice between a nice Hugo Boss Suit and the Superintendants Uniform, I would pick the Hugo Boss Suit with some Ferragamo Lace ups and a snappy fedora.... My point SCC is relax and stop ranting. I am willing to bet you guys are going to end up talking about how great Weis is compared to his successor. Stay safe out ther. By the way your blog is great. I wish ther was an equivalent fed blog. Stay safe out there.
Much Love to my boys on the 9th District Tact Team
PS: 10/12/2010 12:31:00 AM
TG it is pretty tasteless to diss the head of your organization. It makes you look very very small!
off topic but important regarding the stolen parking meter boxes. Its quite possible that it may be connected to terrorism. I think of the dozen or so boxes that have been stolen only 4 have been recovered with zero arrests. There is the threat or possibility that local terrorists could fit a bomb/bombs into these parking boxes and to set them around the city. they would strategically set them off as primary devices then as people are fleeing to another area set them off to take out more dense groups of fleeing people as secondary devices(possibly dirty bombs). I think people really need to be vigilant downtown of any new boxes being put in or moved. I know it seems far fetched but it really is a possibility... especially with all of the info coming from the feds saying that mubai style attaks are a strong possibility in the near future... Stay safe everyone and keep a watchful eye out.
why don't you?
The survey is not subject to the FOIA. It was conducted by the University and not public property.
Any truth to the Sgt list coming down?
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yes.. sad but true. I know several guys who would make great sgts who are just a few out of getting made. they are having the same company who is writing up the new test for the upcoming cpd test to write up a new sgts test... kind of a "package deal".. im sure everyone who is left hanging on the current list is gonna be pissed but what are you gonna do? sorry to all those that missed I know the feeling all too well of just missing out on being made!! just take the test again and PLEASE have patience!! if you dont your gonna drive yourselves nuts. be careful and be safe everyone.
Jfled seemed shocked and as the picture was being taken Jfled started to move away ruining the pic but little did he know I got a copy of it anyway and it is freaking awesome. Me and my dad have big smile with an arm over each others shoulder and Jfled pouting and turning away. Thanks, Jfled for the priceless pic you vanity whore/ freaking stroke. T.G. Southside
good for you dork... nobody thinks you are any cooler for doing it. go back to slicking your hair up and praising yourself somewhere else... god, nothing but strokes on this job these days
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10/12/2010 11:59:00 AM
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You are absolutely correct. One of the best things that they came out with. Just left 22 and voted. You don't even have to go in your own ward.
On the judges retention I voted NO to all except 3 of them. 2 of them I know and they are nice people that don't take no bull. The other was the judge for my divorce and the old lady wasn't able to take me to the cleaners.
PO on ATV is fine. Shoulder hurts, no internal bleeding. No life threatening injuries.
All Area based teams are being sent back the districts, anyone see the memo today?
rumor or fact:
midnight tac teams and sat teams back to the districts on change day?
OT-Drudgereport has an article talking about pensions being underfunded by $574 Billion for major cities in U.S. Chicago and Boston pensions will reportedly will be insolvent by 2019. All officers please go to the website and read this article. Our futures are at stake. Keep yourself informed.
Shame on you SCC. You're usually quite diligent when it comes to reporting, but somehow you forgot to notify the troops that the Mighty Seiser was involved in a car wreck on duty where a taxi cab t-boned him.
After hitting Seiser's squad car, the cab flew up into the air and landed as ten little yellow Peel P50's.
He is doing well, but will be on the medical for awhile because the cab that hit him was made of kryptonite.
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obama_planning_a_gestapo-like_civilian_national.html
...The FOP backing Doherty was a mistake given Democrats control both chambers.
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Not only is Doherty a Republican , he is the ONLY Republican in the city council.
Not too tuff to forget.
Not sure how he'll be out of (city) office though.
Just sayin...
charges dropped against lynwood copper in homicides... sounds like another overzealous arrest and investigation of a police officer to "send a statement". well officer dorian, you should do the same to the will county sheriff that kevin fox did... sue to millions. you my friend will never have to work a day in your life again in that sh*tty town.
No news pertaining to the Morale survey will be released before the WEISel vacates the premises. He'll do everything to keep it under lock and key...
Area Saturation and mid night Tactical teams notified that their details are terminated. They all go back Thursday. Nice giving all these people a one day notice.
Pensions DON'T VOTE QUINN HE WILL CUTUR FUTURE PENSIONS Rigth after the election if he wins!! Just Vote DEM ike Daley wants
You are WRONG! I went to a Brady Political forum Brady says tax payers are not helping any pension they can fail. I was shocked as he know I was a Police officer (not CPD) this was months ago. I'm setting this one out.
rumor or fact:
midnight tac teams and sat teams back to the districts on change day?
That's the fact, jack!
Welcome Back!!!
Doherty states he wants to get rid of all goverment worker pensions and go 401K...so you can work until you are 75
10/12/2010 03:06:00 PM
And what about HIS city pension?
DO NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO WAS IN CITY HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just because they are in negotiations to create a new sgts test doesn't mean that the list wil come down. It won't come down until there is a new list. By the time the test would be created given and a new list started would be mid to late 2012. So its very unlikely that they would not promote any sgts for two years.
How can they just arbitrarily cut the pensions? It's IL law that it must be funded and I don't think they will repeal the law because these people will never get voted in again if they do. The politicians have pensions,too. These are just scare tactics by some think tank nuts. What they really want to do is push to a two-tier system and new recruits will have to invest in a 401K or some other retirement fund.
I got an deparment eamil, asking me to take it, if I haven't already. What a joke.
How can they take the test down? They hired only about 125 off the list. What a waste of money and time for all those who studied and scored well. Unbelievable. Yea, let's talk morale.
Anonymous said...
rumor or fact:
midnight tac teams and sat teams back to the districts on change day?
10/12/2010 06:37:00 PM
Oh darn, I guess the 2 prima donnas on a certain midnight team, who can't work in an unmarked car unless it's brand new, will now have to ride in an hand-me-down car. LOL
AREA TEAMS ARE DONE!!! Have fun answering calls, writing paper, oh and full days. No more 3 hour lunches either. Have fun!!! Oh, and also have fun with your shitty furloughs when you get back to your district. hahahahahahahaha!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just because they are in negotiations to create a new sgts test doesn't mean that the list wil come down. It won't come down until there is a new list. By the time the test would be created given and a new list started would be mid to late 2012. So its very unlikely that they would not promote any sgts for two years.
10/12/2010 09:16:00 PM
Kind of like that there have been no new Detective classes since Dec 2007?
5:01 and 5:47 PM:
Contrary to your criticism of "T.G." (12:31 AM), I salute this officer for not shaking the hand of the clueless, lying coward J-Fled. I'd love to see the photo, T-G.
Now, just for 5:01 PM (CPD Class 86-B, now a "federal agent"). You are either delusional or a troll. The motto of the FBI is "Fidelity, Bravery and Integrity". Unlike J-Fled, I generally have admiration and respect for the Bureau. Using the FBI motto, let's rate J-Fled:
FIDELITY: Check. But to one person: Richard M. Daley. Otherwise, he's as treacherous as a rattlesnake.
BRAVERY: How the fuck do you think he earned the nickname "J-Fled"? He's "gotta run"--the other way--as officers are going into harm's way on what remains an unsolved homicide 45 seconds away from this craven pussy. May God bless Joe Airhart.
INTEGRITY: So you're also implying that the pathological liar J-Fled adheres to a code of ethics and honesty. Bullshit! I've met junkies and crack hos that have more integrity than J-Fled. He is shameless sleaze personified.
4:32 PM:
Wrong! Morale was never higher than when I came OTJ in 1966. This, despite the fact we soon were averaging a murder of a police officer almost monthly. We always backed each other up. With "no cars available" in 011, twenty plus units would come out of the woodwork to respond to a 10-1. We were neither white nor black. We were all BLUE to the bone.
The camaraderie and esprit de corps was outstanding, particularly during the Fillmo' rioting.
Pensions must be funded but if there is not enough money , then there are problems. State law states that they have to be funded , that is it.
Lost about 100 million in 08-09--- it was mentioned here.
I got tired of posting about the pension fund while negotiations were going on. Everyone was interested in the chump change retro-- a couple of thousand- while a million was at stake. 18 yrs pension at 60 grand a year is a million.
You youngsters should wake up, you are being used.
Worried about a couple of thousand during negotiations while a million walks away.
There are NO state guarantees, only thing that has to be done is contribute, while the pension fund has lousy advisors, political nonsense and the like.
I posted about the 100 million dollar loss many times, absolutely no interest.
This year's Michael Nifong Award for foolish, half-cocked prosecution goes to Will Co. State's Attorney James Glascow.
Based on Glascow's vindictive incompetence, Nifong's attempt to prosecute innocent members of the Duke lacrosse team pale in comparison.
What say you, Brian Dorian, Kevin Fox and Drew Peterson?
OT-Drudgereport has an article talking about pensions being underfunded by $574 Billion for major cities in U.S. Chicago and Boston pensions will reportedly will be insolvent by 2019. All officers please go to the website and read this article. Our futures are at stake. Keep yourself informed.
We do have a bill on congress to help us out as this is not our fault, yet the party of no says no. maybe they will change?
good for you dork... nobody thinks you are any cooler for doing it. go back to slicking your hair up and praising yourself somewhere else... god, nothing but strokes on this job these days
Thanks! these are the same guys that think union members suck yet they want it all.
Anonymous said...
Jfled seemed shocked and as the picture was being taken Jfled started to move away ruining the pic but little did he know I got a copy of it anyway and it is freaking awesome. Me and my dad have big smile with an arm over each others shoulder and Jfled pouting and turning away. Thanks, Jfled for the priceless pic you vanity whore/ freaking stroke. T.G. Southside
good for you dork... nobody thinks you are any cooler for doing it. go back to slicking your hair up and praising yourself somewhere else... god, nothing but strokes on this job these days
10/12/2010 05:47:00 PM
Oh no. It looks like you upset J-Fled's Policy Group Sweethearts.
To Anonymous said on 10-12-10 03:28PM.......
FReep this..there are two of us and counting! Hoping that others will feel compelled to keep informed and check Free Republic out..
www.freerepublic.com
OTP--
Lynwood copper cut loose! Praise Jesus! Maybe they used the same rubber hose on him that they used on Kevin Fox?
Hiding out at 3510 said...
Any truth to the Sgt list coming down?
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yes.. sad but true. I know several guys who would make great sgts who are just a few out of getting made. they are having the same company who is writing up the new test for the upcoming cpd test to write up a new sgts test... kind of a "package deal".. im sure everyone who is left hanging on the current list is gonna be pissed but what are you gonna do? sorry to all those that missed I know the feeling all too well of just missing out on being made!! just take the test again and PLEASE have patience!! if you dont your gonna drive yourselves nuts. be careful and be safe everyone.
10/12/2010 05:46:00 PM
Usually after they announce a new test, a couple or a few more classes get put in before the test is administered and the results posted. It took 13 months for the last Sgt test from the time it was announced until the time the scores were mailed.
I'd say if they are at 125, they should get to 200 by the time they pull down the list. That's just an educated guess though.
Congrats to all the "meritorious" guy/gals who took a spot from someone who earned it.
I believe that CBS Channel 2 News unsuccessfully filed a FOIA for the City to release the results of "the morale survey". Apparently they were denied because of some loophole.
"The survey is not subject to the FOIA. It was conducted by the University and not public property."
Wrong. The survey was conducted by R&D (specifically Lt. M. Engstrom) and the data was tabulated by the university and sent back to the CPD because the CPD doesn't own a copy of the statistical software.
It all sits in Weis' hands.
Jfled seemed shocked and as the picture was being taken Jfled started to move away ruining the pic but little did he know I got a copy of it anyway and it is freaking awesome. Me and my dad have big smile with an arm over each others shoulder and Jfled pouting and turning away. Thanks, Jfled for the priceless pic you vanity whore/ freaking stroke. T.G. Southside
good for you dork... nobody thinks you are any cooler for doing it. go back to slicking your hair up and praising yourself somewhere else... god, nothing but strokes on this job these days
10/12/2010 05:47:00 PM
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Wrong, wrong, wrong, policy-groupie. I'm impressed. Quite impressed.
If I have the opportunity in the next three days, while turning in my star/i.d., I'll be happy to let the man know why I retired before maxing out. Can't stand the environment he created and don't want to inflict it on myself any more. (Hmmmm, doesn't that translate to having a negative effect on morale, Mr. Weis?)
I won't cut & paste your whole post.
Anonymous said...
The major prerequisites of being a successful law enforcement executive are having integrity, the vision and intellect to set a course that will lead to success and organizational evolution.
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You might be somewhat right about this part. But this is what J-Fled lacks the most.
He has NO INTEGRITY at ALL And he has not sure much vission or intellect either. So get off your knees and stop trying to kiss J-Fled ass. Even former FBI coworkers hate him.
why don't you?
The survey is not subject to the FOIA. It was conducted by the University and not public property
University is a public entity, especially a state university, I would think FOIA applies
Doherty states he wants to get rid of all goverment worker pensions and go 401K...so you can work until you are 75
10/12/2010 03:06:00 PM
And what about HIS city pension?
DO NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO WAS IN CITY HALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10/12/2010 09:10:00 PM
Which one? This drunken douche bag will collect two, one for his job with DOT, and another as an alderman. Now he wants a third?!?!
TG it is pretty tasteless to diss the head of your organization. It makes you look very very small!
10/12/2010 05:01:00 PM
Sorry, but that was a priceless move that I'm sure Cozzi will be glad to hear about. Now go back to thinking that you feds are the coolest thing around.
You slam CPD by saying that the former top cops ran the department into the ground leading to J-Fled being hired? Please, wake up. Better yet, just stay off the blog you arrogant ass.
Having supposedly been the police before, you should have a good idea that most cops make most of your agents look like the sissies they are. I'm not saying all of them, but person for person you get more bang for the buck from a cop than an agent.
Do they teach you to be arrogant assholes at FLETC or does it just come naturally?
Anonymous said...
How can they just arbitrarily cut the pensions? It's IL law that it must be funded and I don't think they will repeal the law because these people will never get voted in again if they do. The politicians have pensions,too. These are just scare tactics by some think tank nuts. What they really want to do is push to a two-tier system and new recruits will have to invest in a 401K or some other retirement fund.
10/12/2010 09:17:00 PM
The legal work, opinions and other misc. footwork has already been done for a default by the State of Illinois on all of it's pension funds.
Anyone who doesn't know this has not been paying attention.
the State of Illinois has received, and paid for, legal advice advising the state that it is the pension funds that must pay, not the State. The State of Illinois has found legal wiggle room for default and excuses for not funding the pensions.
Do not expect the State of Illinois to use it's dwindling resources to pay pensions, they will not. The retired municipal workers will get fucked. Any police officers who get their pension out of the State funds will also get fucked.
If Brady gets elected it will happen sooner.
Any raise we get is meaningless if our own pension fund follows the state lead. I don't give a shit about 2% raise or 4% raise, the pension is all important as I am looking at retirement coming soon.
We all need to be of one mind on this one.
Anonymous said...
FOP should FOIA the survey!
10/12/2010 06:43:00 AM
You can do it yourself. Anyone can file a FOIA request. It is a simple letter to the department.
There are two ways to change your current pensions. 1 a constitutional convention (this was stopped and will not be a problem for several years) and 2 a referendum (very difficult to get through the voters). There will be other attempts at modifying current pension plans but will probably fail. What is going on is there is a push to eliminating the current benefits or modifying the current benenfits for new hires.
All the municipalities around the state want to eliminate thier contribution to pension funds by having their employees in 401K plans rather than employer contributed plans.
Brady has come out and stated he thinks everyone should be in a 401k plan.
401 K plans will not contribute to the current pension plans and that means no fresh money put into the funds.
To T.G. on the Southside...outfuckinstanding!!!!
I dont believe they are gonna have a new sgt test any time soon. with what money and for what reason the list is ony 4 years old and they only hired 120 or so people..
Why not have the good Lt. release the results? It was her fucking survey.
Anonymous said...
Why not have the good Lt. release the results? It was her fucking survey.
10/14/2010 12:03:00 PM
Never mistake her for being good or a leader or a hero. She's a lot of things, but those things are not among them.
Hiding out at 3510 said...
Any truth to the Sgt list coming down?
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yes.. sad but true. I know several guys who would make great sgts who are just a few out of getting made. they are having the same company who is writing up the new test for the upcoming cpd test to write up a new sgts test... kind of a "package deal".. im sure everyone who is left hanging on the current list is gonna be pissed but what are you gonna do? sorry to all those that missed I know the feeling all too well of just missing out on being made!! just take the test again and PLEASE have patience!! if you dont your gonna drive yourselves nuts. be careful and be safe everyone.
10/12/2010 05:46:00 PM
Shit! I was only 37 out on the list for jfled's driver!
I know for damn sure that driving the beady eyed big headed bastard would have gotten me promoted. That and my fucking fantastic goddamn interpersonal skills would have done it. Damn hell shit fuck it all!
I'll be over 63 by time they get around to giving another test. Well, I guess sgt. just wasn't in the cards for me in this career. Crap, all those interpersonal skills gone to waste.
Anonymous said...
Why not have the good Lt. release the results? It was her fucking survey.
10/14/2010 12:03:00 PM
Never mistake her for being good or a leader or a hero. She's a lot of things, but those things are not among them.
10/14/2010 08:45:00 PM
Dude, I agree...it's just an expression of speech...like "Right Reverend".I still want to know why she won't release the results of her own fucking survey.
Dude, I agree...it's just an expression of speech...like "Right Reverend".I still want to know why she won't release the results of her own fucking survey.
10/15/2010 10:02:00 AM
True. I've heard it used many times, sometimes as sarcasm and other times as a compliment, but hearing it gives you an indication of the user's intent. The intent is not always clear when it is written, so I was not sure if you knew that she is the longest 'one-way' street you will ever encounter. She is bad news from beginning to end. Avoid if at all possible, should be written on her forehead.
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