Death of the Traffic Stop
We've noticed that when a CFD engine pulls up on a scene, the first thing that many (if not all) of the firefighters are doing is donning that lime-green safety vest.
Does anyone see that happening in the event of everyday traffic stops with the CPD? In the current atmosphere, we think it more likely that officers will just cease traffic enforcement. We aren't advocating anything, we just see it as a distinct possibility. And what about Tact teams - are they all going to be vested up like a radioactive banana? That kind of eliminates the two or three second edge they might have stopping someone in traffic.
Opinions?
Does anyone see that happening in the event of everyday traffic stops with the CPD? In the current atmosphere, we think it more likely that officers will just cease traffic enforcement. We aren't advocating anything, we just see it as a distinct possibility. And what about Tact teams - are they all going to be vested up like a radioactive banana? That kind of eliminates the two or three second edge they might have stopping someone in traffic.
Opinions?
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 1:03 AM
115 Comments:
What about tact guys?
How exactly does this work? Are we sure it applies to traffic stops? Or is only when we are directing traffic or during a traffic accident?
As one who loves to make traffic stops "I'm done".
These vests can't be meant for traffic stops? Just traffic control I would think.
they'll go by the wayside, just like everything, i don't even see firemen wearing them at accident scenes anymore.
The firefighters are smart using the vests.
the cameras already accomplished this--- the vests will just be icing on the cake....
It's not easy being green!
More road blocks
This would be absurd and very dangerous! Our hands need to be free and have full concentration at all times. Messing around with a silly vest would be insane. Two choices 1. Don't wear the vest and stay alive or 2. Don't stop cars and stay alive. I can see wearing it while directing traffic or out of the car for an extended period of time in traffic, but that's it.
is it bulletproof?
if not, what the fuck use is it?
We ain't firemen and we don't need no stinking vests.
We do not wear them on TS only on accident scenes and traffic direction
The wearing of the traffic safety vests cause much of a cessation of traffic stops, especially by tact teams.
Tact officers will keep them handy, of course, and in the likelihood of an extensive traffic stop, they'll put them on, but you won't see them wearing them on every traffic stop, that's for sure.
Who does traffic stops anymore? I thought they stopped when they continued that race survey bullshit.
Does this mean that we only need to wear these vest's when performing a traffic stop OR all the time? Let's face it, CFD only comes out when a fire or medical emergency is called in. That's their job. If you follow that logic, CPD is out of their vehicles not only for traffic stops but for domestics, check well being, burglar alarm and many, MANY more. If we are required to have the new vest on EVERYTIME we exit the vehicle, then we will have to wear it all the time.
The two or three seconds it would take to put the thing on would be a safety issue for all. And, if you are like most coppers, the vest would probably be in the back seat or trunk.
Let's just hope that the brain trust at 35th doesn't come up with a new lime green coat and/or vest cover.
This will not happen. The DOT law specifically exempts PO's from having to wear the vests during traffic stops. They are only required when the PO is expected to be in the flow of traffic for any period of time, such as directing traffic of investigating a crash that can't be towed outta the way.
Back to the previous:
"Poetic Justice"
Anonymous said...
Also, the same Will County where 5 women were murdered at the lane Bryant store and which case still is unsolved.....
12/13/2010 10:33:00 AM
Any connection maybe???
Anonymous said...
......ahh, check out the " male customers " rap sheet. Whose the bad guy again?
12/13/2010 08:54:00 PM
Okay I’ll bite! What do you know??? Man Up, Post Up, or Shut Up!!!
Like we have time to put on all the bullshit,think tickets are low now just wait! Another great idea by the minds that never get out of the office!
ShortShanks introduced his revenue generating cadre of patronage workers which pretty much says "we do not need the police"....so fuck you, dick!
redesign vest for police to acknowledge our current leader with a bright yellow stripe down the back of traffic vest
gotta run
Firemen are glad to wear the vest. One of our guys was plowed over by a distracted motorist who didn't see him in his dark navy blue attire. I don't even have to tell my guys to put it on. Working at a pin-in accident, etc where motorists are gaping at the scene, these vests might save one of our lives. There was a lot of moaning when they came out, but everyone got the point right away.
Watch 'Worlds Worst Criminals' and see the videos of cars hitting officers on traffic stops. That radioactive vest just might make the difference between going home to your family and walking with a cane. I think the CPD has the best interests of the men this time.
Does that means Sgt U from 011 Tact will stop wearing his all camo (including boots) outfits and start wearing FULL lime-green stuff?
Anonymous said...
is it bulletproof?
if not, what the fuck use is it?
12/14/2010 02:55:00 AM
Agreed-
The color lights you up like a clay pidgeon. In today's environment? No way.
Who cares?
Can Someone please explain y car 47 would assign 10 officers to the county building for the rham hearings when they have there own security is he trying to kiss up and get on rhams good side to keep his job so he don't go back down to srg. Y waste our manpower on someone who is not even mayor yet.
I haven't seen Illinois State Troopers wearing them. Are they exempt?
just more dumb shit from people who have never done anything even remotely resembling the police oor fire job!
Many of the uniform coats we buy now already have the pull down reflective panels.
You are right, wearing of the vest in a situation that it could endander the officer is not required. These are for directing traffic, crowd situation ( with traffic ) and times that high visibility is required. This does not mean that some department pin head will read more into this and demand the vests all the time. I this case, everyone in HQ should wear one to protect them from all the flying BS.
"In the current atmosphere, we think it more likely that officers will just cease traffic enforcement."
Define "traffic enforcement." Are you saying we will stop writing movers? Or are you saying we will stop directing traffic? I think you can guess we will never stop writing movers, not police dept. anywhere in the country has stopped doing that, and I think we all know why. And the reasons are not just the $, but valid safety reasons too.
What, exactly, are you saying we, as a dept., will cease doing?
The reason we have two spot lights, take down lights, bright blue LED lights (which burn your retinas), ect is to blind these animals on traffic stops and be able to walk up on them with out showing where you are. Why don't we just wear red and white vests w/ a target on our chest.
Leave the traffic directing to the
" Traffic Aides " and leave the remainder of the lime-green vests
in the warehouse.
With all the pot shots at the Police by the bad guys, along with
the killings, the officers don't
need anything else on their persons that would make them "stand out" in public when they are already in harms way.
Damn, who sits around and thinks this garbage up anyway, apparently
they are not front-line officers and they have too much free time
on their hands. Get rid of them or
give them a job with "real" responsibility.
Do the vests deflect bullets? Can they make you fly? Will they give the officer a sense of invinsibility? Better yet, invisibility?
Unless you are spending a long period of time in traffic it's a dumb idea. Dumb! Sorry for the harsh reality but the idea is stupid. Punish assholes who injure police. Punish those who fail to yeild to emergency vehicles. Enforce the laws we have instead of adding to a list of failed ideas. Simple!
does the CPD have traffic cars? unless you are on LSD there are none to be found.
What is this traffic stop you speak of?
We got these in Aurora about 2 years ago. The federal law makes an exception for traffic stops and other tactical or emergency situations. We are supposed to wear them when directing traffic, working roadblocks, ect. I can only think of a handful of occurances where I put mine on. Most suburban departments have had them for a while now and I've never seen anybody with them on during a traffic stop.
(OT) We moved into the Tommy More area years ago,nice area i am a Black copper working in the 003rd district. The shitbirds thanks to tearing down the projects are coming in droves.Section 8 paradise,but like everywhere in the city the gangbangers and punks are moving in! My house was burglarized,the jags used a crow bar to remove my "security door",kicked in the rear door took everything,jewelery,etc.. Neighbors did not see anything except for a white small moving truck in my alley! No they did not get my guns they are in my safe which weighs 400# bolted to my basement floor. Now the wife wants to move she is scared,we have a small dog and are getting a new style security system installed nothing like us the police living in our own prisons! Years ago when police were the "police" BJ=Before Jody,this shit would be taken care of by us the "real police" now with the pussification on this dept,and bosses (LOL) that have no clue how be the police in charge this shit will keep happening to us!
No! i am not blaming the younger "hair gel' coppers,there are not enough of us period and if you try to do the right things to the scum you will be fired,indicted,charged and jailed like what jody did to COZZI!! Plesae boys and girls just back each other up,and try your best to at least put a stop on these jags,even if you give them tickets something to disrupt them,but PLEASE be careful far to many of us have been KILLED by the scum that infests this city from the mayor and the 50 that don't support their police the "trickle down"is coming at a faster pace! GOD BLESS CPD!!!!
Proof Positive The Current Superintendent Has No Concept Of What Real Police Work Is.
I Think He Should Wear One Of Those Vests.
It Would Set A Good Example,and Prove To Us Once And For All He Whats To Be Part Of The Team.
ITS FOR TRAFFIC!
BUT WHAT IF UR NOT WEARING IT AND R STRUCK BY A VEHICLE?
WILL THE CITY CLAIM U WERE NOT WEARING UR PROTECTIVE VEST AND TRY AND REFUSE TO PAY MEDICAL EXPENSES.
AND IS THERE A STUDY THAT SHOW THOSE VEST PREVENT PEOPLE FROM BEING HIT BY CARS?
WHAT NEXT THE GYM SHOES WITH LIGHTS IN THEM?
HOW ABOUT ASP THAT FUNCTION LIKE GLO-STICKS!
On a traffic stop I am watching the vehicle and its occupants the entire time. I sure as fuck dont give a shit about putting that traffic vest on. How many coppers are killed by gunfire and how many are killed by other vehicles on traffic stops? Im not saying it cant or hasnt happened but I will play the odds. Im not risking getting shot by some thug who has an extra 3 second advantage while im dicking around with a traffic vest
Another stupid idea.
TO:
Anonymous said...
This will not happen. The DOT law specifically exempts PO's from having to wear the vests during traffic stops. They are only required when the PO is expected to be in the flow of traffic for any period of time, such as directing traffic of investigating a crash that can't be towed outta the way.
Please give the statue cause I'll be honest I'm too lazy to search for an hour to find it :)
Thanks for the useful info
big stretch there SCC
How many of you wear your current department issued reflective vest?
Nothing will change. Your locker just got more crowded. That is all..nothing to see here..move along now!
Geez what's wrong with wearing the vest all the time?
OFF TOPIC:
RAHM EMANUEL GETTING SPANKED ON LIVE TV REGARDING RESIDENCY HEARING.
I'm sure nothing will come of it due to the "Chicago Way"
For simple stuff like 10 miles over or failing to signal a lane change in the absence of any other reason to do the stop? Sure, I'd be good with that. Still need to have it in the toolbox for staying on top of all the right people though....
Relax! The CFD only dons these vests while on the scene of a traffic crash, cleaning debris from a crash, or when they are wrapping up their gear after fighting a fire.
The only times CPD would be required to wear this vest would be the same as now: during traffic control.
look out period 1a 2011--- some of you young guys better clean out your lockers now and prepare to start living out of the trunk of your car---- you will be sent to the wild frontier yellow vests and all to do battle with the beast--- some of you young buck sgts are also going along for the ride---- remember to keep the faith and be safe--- the ghetto was there yesterday and will be there tomorrow no matter what you do today....
if true, file a safety grievance
My understanding is traffic accidents only
OT: Ever been told you can't get off on Christmas? Or any other religious holiday? Just tell them you are muslim and threaten to sue.
More fucking bullshit from those who want to kill us all.
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Berkeley schools sued over denial of Muslim pilgrimage
December 14, 2010 9:58 AM
The federal government has sued a west suburban school district for denying a Muslim middle school teacher unpaid leave to make a pilgrimage to Mecca that is a central part of her religion.
In a civil rights case, the department said the school district in Berkeley denied the request of Safoorah Khan on grounds that her requested leave was unrelated to her professional duties and was not set forth in the contract between the school district and the teachers union.
In doing so, the school district violated the Civil Rights Act of 1964 by failing to reasonably accommodate her religious practices, the government said.
Khan wanted to perform the Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia which every adult Muslim is supposed to make at least once in a lifetime if they are physically and financially able to. Millions go each year.
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Well kiss my ass!
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/12/berkeley-schools-sued-over-denial-of-muslim-pilgrimage.html
They're trying to make us like the British cops. I mean they look good on them, but that's they're style. That is not the Great CPD.
Guys,
This is an OSHA requirement. We are required to wear the vest when on a highway (federal interstate or US highway) directing traffic, handling a lane closure or investigating a crash. There is a LEO exemption for situations where there is a possibility for adversarial or confrontational situation such as traffic stops or searches.
The gist of the matter is to control the situation, secure the scene, then don your hi-vis green vest and proceed to do what you need to do.
This is an OSHA requirement. If you get injured or killed while on the job and OSHA deemed that you didn't follow their rules, kiss your benefits goodbye. Insurance companies will probably follow the OSHA rules too so kiss your insurance payout goodbye too. I'm watching out for my family. I'll be wearing my green vest as soon as I can if I'll be hanging around the street in traffic.
I don't care if the damn vests are pink I'm doing what I gotta do.
The Hair gel will keep working threw these hard times
Since were on the topic of Tact guys...Starting 2nd Period, the 009th District will rotate all of it's Tact guys back to the watch that they bid for, and replace them with volunters from the watch.
The commander is doing this to see if the numbers go up, down or stay pretty much the same. If there is not much of a change in numbers, then most, not all, PO's will be invited back and the volunteers sent back to the watch.
(3) more brothers of the struggle have been gun down since Officer Flisk. (2) while conducting traffic stops. (officerdown.com) BE CAREFUL
its a federal mandate and the vests are coming from a manufacturer/supplier in the states but they can't come direct at a lower cost first they will make a stop at an approved vendor then the city gets them at a 400% mark-up.
unbelievable, called in a traffic accident at 2:20 pm as a 4 pm still no police service .. not a car insight 2356 north elston .... I know it's a manpower issue, but where do I file a complaint
1 of the vehicles is not safety drivable but going to try anyway ...
Are these vests v-neck or cardigan style? Can they be worn without a tie? Tuck or no-tuck? Are there pockets? Can they be lined with fur for winter use?
Don't think they thought this one out all the way through. Please advise.
www.GottaRun/duh.org
The reason that the CFD is wearing them I. Was told has something to do with a federal regulation with the DOT that they be worn @ accidents on all public ways. I for one thinks that it is stupid if the ff is wearing his coat which also has reflective stripes on it.
SO when i'm at a crash where the cars are in the middle of the street and i cant get a city relo for another 2 hours, i have to wear my lime green vest? im not wearing that thing.
I'll just let the private tows yank the cars. surprisingly some of those guys are legit anyways.
14/2010 08:37:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Can Someone please explain y car 47 would assign 10 officers to the county building for the rham hearings when they have there own security is he trying to kiss up and get on rhams good side to keep his job so he don't go back down to srg. Y waste our manpower on someone who is not even mayor yet.
12/14/2010 08:43:00 AM
Can you say "POTUS"?
Bad idea. Bad idea. Bad idea.
Would a soldier in Baghdad wear this green vest?
This is Baghdad on the Lake for those who have been napping the last couple of years.
12/14/2010 08:10:00 AM
Anonymous said...
Does that means Sgt U from 011 Tact will stop wearing his all camo (including boots) outfits and start wearing FULL lime-green stuff?
12/14/2010 08:30:00 AM
Oh, Man, I saw this dude one day at the sgt.'s ass. office! He looks like a weirdo. He was in the camo outfit you describe and these dirty boots and unshaven. He looked like a hillbilly with a gun.
Does Penny take him seriously? Or is he a "handsoff" kind of a guy?
How did capt, ritchi A. put up with him? Is that why he chose to go to the 010th on Mids?
Kind of on topic and also off...
I'll probably be made fun of for this, but can we start an effort to end people from snow blowing or shoveling snow into the street?
I understand what you think happens, cars smash it down and it melts. Well, this doesn't happen in Chicago. It gets smashed down virtually into ice and/or becomes extreme smooth making stopping and maneuvering difficult while driving.
So please, take the extra time to put the snow onto your front lawn. Contrary to popular belief, snow does not harm your lawn.
Proof Positive The Current Superintendent Has No Concept Of What Real Police Work Is.
I Think He Should Wear One Of Those Vests.
It Would Set A Good Example,and Prove To Us Once And For All He Whats To Be Part Of The Team.
12/14/2010 10:22:00 AM
Easy With All The Caps, Man! You dont need all of them.
He dosent need a vest, no one can miss him with that mellon of his!
Back in the day when we had the expressways, the traffic guys used to turn their lights off on stops. Why? Cuz the moronic motoring public would drive right into them like moths to a flame! I can see the same thing happening to us by tryin to light us up like fkn fluorescent targets!
This department just gets dumber by the day! We are turning into the laughing stock of LE!
Anonymous said...
unbelievable, called in a traffic accident at 2:20 pm as a 4 pm still no police service .. not a car insight 2356 north elston .... I know it's a manpower issue, but where do I file a complaint
1 of the vehicles is not safety drivable but going to try anyway ...
12/14/2010 04:03:00 PM
Did you vote for Daley and his band of merry Democrats?
If so, you need to go to our Department of Special Complaints at 103rd and Doty. Ms. Helen Waite is in charge. See her. Just go straight to Helen Waite.
If not, go to 2250 N California Ave tomorrow.
"unbelievable, called in a traffic accident at 2:20 pm as a 4 pm still no police service .. not a car insight 2356 north elston .... I know it's a manpower issue, but where do I file a complaint
1 of the vehicles is not safety drivable but going to try anyway ...
12/14/2010 04:03:00 PM"
to answer the one question posed in your otherwise amusing whining, not here.
"The commander is doing this to see if the numbers go up, down or stay pretty much the same. If there is not much of a change in numbers, then most, not all, PO's will be invited back and the volunteers sent back to the watch.
12/14/2010 03:22:00 PM"
this ain't a football game.
"The Hair gel will keep working threw these hard times
12/14/2010 03:15:00 PM"
which way did dey go, george, which way did dey go?
sure, george, anyting you say, george, anyting yoo say.
How many of you wear your current department issued reflective vest?
Nothing will change. Your locker just got more crowded. That is all..nothing to see here..move along now!
12/14/2010 11:31:00 AM
I've never received a dept issued vest. I had to buy that damn thing myself so i assume the city is going to buy this lime green thing for me this time?? They want me to wear it on accidents then i'll wear it on accidents, who the fuck cares.
They're trying to make us like the British cops. I mean they look good on them, but that's they're style. That is not the Great CPD.
12/14/2010 01:28:00 PM
Plus they do not carry side arms.
does the CPD have traffic cars? unless you are on LSD there are none to be found.
12/14/2010 10:00:00 AM
Wrong, don't forget the Skyway and many districts put up traffic cars.
CAN I GET 3 OF THEM?
"What, exactly, are you saying we, as a dept., will cease doing?
12/14/2010 09:35:00 AM"
there is no 'we' in this department.
ask jody why.
http://secsqurl60614.livejournal.com/
good funny stuff that I wish was on more candidates.
FALSH! Green vests to be purchased from Mayor's nephew.
(OT) Went to gym today Athletico on Archer,noticed the water had a funky smell taste.went home (Live in Garfield Ridge)same smell taste,called water dept of course voice mail no reply as yet anyone else have this problem?
See the tribune artical on pg 29? "COLUMBIA's birth control revolution" free birth control for all.
One paragraph applies to inner city breeders
"studies show adolescent pregnancies feed a vicious cycle of social problems, including poverty, violence and low levels of education."
"once these girls get pregnant that's the end of their education."
Make it free and even pay them to stop breeding. Will fix alot of city's problems.
Seriously???? I know cops are resistant to change but this is for traffic control at scenes.....not t- stops. Get real it is about safety nothing more. Just because you dont like doesnt mean it is out to get you. PD's aroung the nation have been doing this for years.....Chicago is just being slow to catch up.....kinda like the glock....now that you have them...problem solved
OT:
Hey Rham maybe with all this bad press about your residency, once you buy... um I mean win the election you can lift the residency requirement on police officers. Run with it and you got my vote.
All I have to say is who got the contract for the vests?
"This is an OSHA requirement. We are required to wear the vest when on a highway (federal interstate or US highway) directing traffic, handling a lane closure or investigating a crash. There is a LEO exemption for situations where there is a possibility for adversarial or confrontational situation such as traffic stops or searches.
"The gist of the matter is to control the situation, secure the scene, then don your hi-vis green vest and proceed to do what you need to do."
--12/14/2010 01:53:00 PM
If this is all it is, and will not interfere with TACTICAL situations, it's not a bad idea. It's a good piece of safety equipment to have along; that reflective striping shows up like crazy when headlights hit it.
I understand that the bright green color was chosen because it is the color that the human eye is most sensitive to. A brand new vest or T-shirt is so bad it kinda makes the whole room glow green when you shake it out of the bag and hold it up. Yow!
Seen on more and more thinking people who ride bicycles, too...best thing you can have. Not needed/wanted all the time, but a real lifesaver after dark/in heavy traffic.
Weighs almost nothing, works like 500 watts. Let the car carry the heavy battery and alternator -- just bounce a little of their own light back at them. God bless the fella who invented Scotchlite.
Great on the corners of those low-down black-painted empty steel boat trailers parked on unlighted streets, too...whoa! (swerve)
Why don't we just get lime green uniforms, and we can wear helmets like a NASCAR pit crew.
Anonymous said...
How many of you wear your current department issued reflective vest?
Nothing will change. Your locker just got more crowded. That is all..nothing to see here..move along now!
12/14/2010 11:31:00 AM
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Just when did the Dept. issue reflective vests?
I did not get one of those!!!!!
Off topic but best wishes and get well to RL from 002 slipped on the ice rink in Area 1 parking lot Was paralyzed laying helpless on the ice unable to talk or move till he was found under a car by a PO going home 25 minutes later. He was then rushed to christ Where he spent the day. Last I heard he Still has paralysis in right arm and leg. Get better buddy see you in the summer.
So which Daley family member owns a vest company?
hey 843 post. Car 47 is retiring anyway. U honestly think he would stay after dickie leaves? Thats his boy. He would be busted back down to his real rank of sgt by any new mayor. His papers are already in so relax
12/14/2010 01:53:00 PM
Hey OSHA expert. Federal OSHA, as a federal agency, does not have jurisdiction over those employed by state, county, city or municipal governments.
So go blow your smoke up somone else's ass.
All I have to say is sometimes the dark clothing gives officers just a few more second that could save their lives. Ever walked up one somebody that says they didn't see u coming
Are we required to wear other clothing at the same time - or just the lime green vest?
Anonymous said...
Since were on the topic of Tact guys...Starting 2nd Period, the 009th District will rotate all of it's Tact guys back to the watch that they bid for, and replace them with volunters from the watch.
The commander is doing this to see if the numbers go up, down or stay pretty much the same. If there is not much of a change in numbers, then most, not all, PO's will be invited back and the volunteers sent back to the watch.
12/14/2010 03:22:00 PM
I heard about this!!! I can't believe he's actually going to do it. I think it's a great idea. All they do is bring in one baggers then take 7 hours off. This should have been done a long time ago. We don't need 6 guys down on a bag of weed. We need 3 more two man beat cars up answering calls and helping with back up.
What's a traffic stop?
Anonymous said...
(OT) We moved into the Tommy More area years ago,nice area i am a Black copper working in the 003rd district. The shitbirds thanks to tearing down the projects are coming in droves.Section 8 paradise,but like everywhere in the city the gangbangers and punks are moving in! My house was burglarized,the jags used a crow bar to remove my "security door",kicked in the rear door took everything,jewelery,etc.. Neighbors did not see anything except for a white small moving truck in my alley! No they did not get my guns they are in my safe which weighs 400# bolted to my basement floor. Now the wife wants to move she is scared,we have a small dog and are getting a new style security system installed nothing like us the police living in our own prisons! Years ago when police were the "police" BJ=Before Jody,this shit would be taken care of by us the "real police" now with the pussification on this dept,and bosses (LOL) that have no clue how be the police in charge this shit will keep happening to us!
No! i am not blaming the younger "hair gel' coppers,there are not enough of us period and if you try to do the right things to the scum you will be fired,indicted,charged and jailed like what jody did to COZZI!! Plesae boys and girls just back each other up,and try your best to at least put a stop on these jags,even if you give them tickets something to disrupt them,but PLEASE be careful far to many of us have been KILLED by the scum that infests this city from the mayor and the 50 that don't support their police the "trickle down"is coming at a faster pace! GOD BLESS CPD!!!!
12/14/2010 10:19:00 AM
This is going to be a bit contraversial, but imagine what the white people that lived there are thinking. They lived there for decades and decades. Their parents grew up there, they grew up there, they wanted to raise their kids there, then what happened? I want you to tell me what has changed recently that made a great neighborhood turn so bad so fast. White people lived there for ever = totally fine and safe neighborhood. Black people started moving in = extremely down hill, unsafe, and bad place to live now. You said it yourself, even black people don't want to live there amongst their own people. Maybe you, b/c you're living it, can get a small glimpse of how the white people feel when they see their neighborhoods fall and who is to blame, but the people that move in.
Has anyone ever seen a neighborhood that used to be black and turn white and the neighborhood is worse for it? More crime, gangs, etc..??? I seriously can't.
Reversing it, has there ever been a neighborhood that has turned black and has become a nicer safer area? Again i cannot.
I'm not a hater, but this is the reality of what is going on. At least in chicago.
Who even cares anymore? The Department, and the City, are DONE.
Merry Christmas Crookago..
Ok which one of you F$&@s took the folding chair that was saving my parking space. I want it back. I plan on putting my new lime green vest on it so it doesn't get run over by my drunk neighbor.
What will the next jody Weiss uniform accessory be ? Me thinks it could be the beanie-cap with propeller, and/or the Nehru Jacket from the early 70's. The Department has never looked sillier, with everyone in all these different outlandish uniforms. The un-uniform uniformed police.
Will the say " POLICE " OR. " AIM HERE" No chase no shoot no talk. but enough to fill a chicken or a bull.
Why don't we just get lime green uniforms, and we can wear helmets like a NASCAR pit crew
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I'm in!!!!
Exceptions for Emergency Responders
Due to "comments from State and local police, national police organizations, and State DOTs" the original publishment in the federal register includes exceptions for law enforcement officers working in potentially adversarial or confrontational roles. This includes traffic stops and searches. Officers are still required under 23 CFR 634 to wear high-visibility clothing during other times, such as "directing traffic, investigating crashes, and handling lane closures, obstructed roadways, and disasters within the right-of-way of a Federal-aid highway." (The language for this exception can be found in the 2nd column of page 67797 of the publication in the Federal Register Vol. 71, No 226 which can be downloaded using the link below) Currently no such exception exists for firefighters. Some fire service personnel have expressed concern about the idea of adding a layer of potentially flammable material between their turnout gear and SCBA while battling car fires or during an extrication. Because those views were not expressed during the comment period of 23 CFR 634 no exceptions or interpretations for fire service operations were published along with the rule. Further, all fire department personnel should be aware that turnout gear alone does not meet the visibility requirement. No turnout gear currently manufactured meets the color requirement for the fluorescent background material of these high-visibility garments. Even if turnout gear could be dyed to meet the color standard when manufactured, it would no longer be compliant after the first exposure to fire, smoke, and soot. Fire departments should consider fire resistance of materials (and their limitations) as part of their criteria for selecting vests and writing department protocols and procedures.
NFPA 1901
NineteenDavid said...
What's a traffic stop?
12/14/2010 11:16:00 PM
That's like in the morning and afternoon when the traffic get heavy and shit and then the traffic stop. Them the light be green and the traffic go till the next traffic stop.
I heard about this!!! I can't believe he's actually going to do it. I think it's a great idea. All they do is bring in one baggers then take 7 hours off. This should have been done a long time ago. We don't need 6 guys down on a bag of weed. We need 3 more two man beat cars up answering calls and helping with back up.
Do you really think they'd be answering calls and helping with back up? They would still be conducting street stops on shit bums and processing one baggers while you handle the calls on their beats. You can't change who people are by moving them around.
P.S. That commander over there is a fucking tool bag.
The reflective cuts both ways. Yeah, the blue hairs and the gawking assholes will see you better, and they might avoid you. But the drunks and dopers will also see you and they tend to drive towards you.
'Reversing it, has there ever been a neighborhood that has turned black and has become a nicer safer area? Again i cannot.
I'm not a hater, but this is the reality of what is going on. At least in chicago.'
I'm white. I live in Beverly. My neighbors on both sides of my home are white too. One of my neighbors kids broke into my home. The neighbor's kid is white also. Fortunately, a black resident on my block (don't really know the man, he pretty much keeps to himself) saw what was happening, called the police, and directed them to the burglar. Many of the residents of my block have someone home on a daily basis; these people saw & heard nothing.
I'm grateful for the black neighbor I have across the street, the man I never took the time to speak with or get to know, and I've made a point of getting to know him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) Went to gym today Athletico on Archer,noticed the water had a funky smell taste.went home (Live in Garfield Ridge)same smell taste,called water dept of course voice mail no reply as yet anyone else have this problem?
12/14/2010 08:16:00 PM
I Noticed the smell also,and the taste was lees than "Normal" I live in the 5600 block of mobile wonder if is just our area!
Emergency Responders
•The latest federal regulation requires that all emergency responders working in a right-of-way of a federal highway must wear a safety vest. Emergency responders, which include policemen, firefighters, and EMS personnel, must follow this rule.
Read more: Federal Department of Transportation Rules for Safety Vests | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/facts_5978443_federal-transportation-rules-safety-vests.html#ixzz18E2JKEb8
I Noticed the smell also,and the taste was lees than "Normal" I live in the 5600 block of mobile wonder if is just our area!
12/15/2010 09:01:00 AM
So that's what the dog was barking at in the sewers. The zombie war begins!
Anonymous said...
What will the next jody Weiss uniform accessory be ? Me thinks it could be the beanie-cap with propeller, and/or the Nehru Jacket from the early 70's. The Department has never looked sillier, with everyone in all these different outlandish uniforms. The un-uniform uniformed police.
12/14/2010 11:36:00 PM
I must say, the Nehru Jacket was popular in the mid sixties. I will have to look to see if I still have mine. A few likely were worn into the 70's but by then I had gravitated to powder blue leisure suits from Sears with white patent leather belt and open collar shirts with huge collars. And flared power blue pants. That was the hot setup.
Anonymous said...
So which Daley family member owns a vest company?
Answer-the one who owns the company in tinley park that is selling the marked up vests to the city.
Make it free and even pay them to stop breeding. Will fix alot of city's problems.
12/14/2010 08:25:00
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...or stop the social redistribution programs that reward them for squeezing out little felons.
Drunk Neighbor Here: Don't think I don't appreciate your kindness in planning to chairscape a landing pad for me when I'm in my cups. I also need the return of that lawn chair which doubles as my bed when I can't make it inside.
'Reversing it, has there ever been a neighborhood that has turned black and has become a nicer safer area? Again i cannot.I'm not a hater, but this is the reality of what is going on. At least in chicago.'
Via various sources: Chatham, Avalon Park, West Chesterfield, Pill Hill, Park Manor and certain blocks in Austin (i.e. 1980s & 1990s, during the housewalk era).
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