Who's Got the Inside Track?
Picking a new police superintendent, getting more cops on the street and looking at where they're deployed will be considerations for Chicago's new mayor.
Mayor Richard Daley's successor also will have to figure out a way to deal with the Chicago Police Department's perception problem: Statistics show the city is safer than it has been in decades, yet high-profile, persistent gun violence in some neighborhoods has blunted that message.
Police Superintendent Jody Weis has served as a political football during the campaign, with the four top mayoral contenders saying they won't renew his contract.
Candidates Gery Chico, Miguel del Valle and Carol Moseley Braun say they'll name someone from within the department's ranks.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
209 Comments:
"Pennywise" the clown?
I'm not a religious man, but God help us!
Cuello, Kirby or Skahill. My father is turning over in his grave.
Well, Rahm will never let EB have it. If you ever saw that multi-page form you had to fill out to apply for a job with Obama's administration, you know EB can't pass the test
WHO DOES RAHM OWE? Not Daley. He owes Obama. He owes Bill Clinton. Clinton doesn't have a horse in this race, except wanting Rahm's cooperation in the future. Obama has a cousin - by marriage - waiting in the wings at the Board of Ed. He, too, can't pass the ethics tests set forth by the Obama administration and he's pretty nicely settled in at the Board.
Rahm has NOT stated he'd bring someone up from the ranks. But he might bring someone back, if he liked their resume. And we all know that some real idiots look great on paper, even though they're poison in reality.
Some posters wrote yesterday that madigan will change pensions for current workers into a 401k. I can't see that happening since madigan only made minor changes to new hires. If madigan could barely change pensions for future hires not protected by the illinois constitution, it`s unlikely current employees would be forced to switch to a 401k.
Or am I missing something.
The way certain democrat politicians are aggressively trying to change public worker pensions makes me think this has been their plan for a while. Probably why they tried so hard to ratify the illinois constitition over a year ago. Thankfully we voted that down!
My source says Chico will pick Hiram Grau as Superintendant
I'll take Bugs Bunny over anybody we have. Anything but J-fled.
Superintendent Cuello? .... bartender, just leave me the bottle and wake me when that disaster ends!
OT: I m at 35th and Michigan and I love seeing all the limited duty people scrambling to get documentation from there Dr so they can stay down here. The crack down on medical abuse has begun, and Its about time. Nobody wants to go back to the districts. I see people claiming limited duty working out, lugging around bags and its a joke.
DK has the inside track because "Chicago Code" has a female superintendent. :)
I'm more worried about our pension and future contract negotiations than who the next superintendent is--- the raise we just received was wiped off the board by increases in property taxes and state income taxes---- now they want our contribution to go from 9.5 to 12 percent for the pension---- lisa madigan is attacking jon burge's pension even after the pension board voted for him to keep receiving it--- old man madigan wants to mess with all the state employees pensions---- the idiot financial managers the city employs will just sit back and see what madigan can get away with and then they will follow suit---- keep writing those movers and parkers and jacking up the shitbird gangbangers to make the boss look good---- you bosses aren't going to get shit either, they stole all your money too......
CPD morale is in a shambles. No one in their right mind would take the "top cop" job in this Sodom and Gomorrah on the Lake for a king's ransom. It will take almost a generation to undo the catastrophic destructive effect of J-Fled.
I choose sanity. Thanks but no thanks.
Top two contenders are Debra Kirby and Tom Byrne.
For my money, Juan "The Riv" Rivera is our only hope. He's an incredible elader, former Marine, plenty of time in the department. Always approachable. Nothing I wouldn't do for the guy. A true class act.
kirby
For a female Skahill and Kirby are the only two that stand out as contenders. Don't think Cuello will want the headache.
Males there are a few that could be contenders: Williams, Rivera, Byrne, Wysinger would all be good for the department. Don't know if Jackson would want it but he would be good too.
Masters, Peterson, Brown, Penny, and any of the others who had no business being appointed will continue the petty, vindictive ways that are currently running unchecked and destroying this department.
As it is it will take 10 years to get this department right again.
Anyone have any idea why Masters is assembling an army under the Superintendent's umbrella since he is on the way out? Doesn't make any sense.
Chuck Ramsey?
Bill Bratton?
Lefty from the first ward?
OT: Guardian Angels busted two young southside hoodrats snatching a camera on the Redline...Sweet !
Brett Goldstein!!! His charts and graphs are better than CPIC'S. Masters will then be in charge of wiping his a$$.
Doty will return to take the throne.
We are cursed and doomed! But, Doty & Rahm
have very similar personalities. They would be
a great fit together. In exchange for this,
the U of C would make our pension contributions
whole, as a parting gift.
Now that clear is utterly broken, will Lewin take a hit? Is this a sign of the wheels falling off the cart as the sun sets on J-Fled?
Dep. Chief Juan Rivera
Oy!!! all Chicago needs for superintendant of police is one of Obama's relatives..... if that happens Chicago is really doomed not to mention just how doomed cpd will be!
God help us when we get someone who owes Emanuel a favor and is in his pocket. That could make us wish for the good ole days of...J-Fled!
Rich Hagen get's my vote!
Whoever has the most clout with the Decmocratic Party and bowed down for Obama and his crew, will be the next choice.
More cops on the street? How about taking some off the desk? They've got 6 in 025.
Mealer looks the best on paper. Squeaky clean and a yes man. Also not too much taller than Rahm. (BTW, did you ever notice Richie's choices were always height challenged?) I don't know his clout but if it's someone from the Blago cesspool than I withdraw my prediction.
ITK
If Rahm wins I have a feeling Weis is staying...
It's alleged that Rahm cut a deal with Dart to
get him to drop out of the Mayoral race.
Rahm wins and Dart gets $310K a year for
4 year contract. Guaranteed cool $1.24 Million for his cooperation. Not bad for being "bullied" out.
and just who might that person be RON HUBBERMAN
Jennifer Beals is going to be the new sup???? Nice....
Who let "Chicago Code" use our uniforms and STARS in a show that doesn't really paint the City in a good light?
The little birdie that I know is leaning toward Skahill or Kirby. I don't want to believe it, but ...who can not believe the way things are done here.
Kirby will try to fire more than jfled. She gets off on signing her name to suspensions and termination papers!!
Thinkin bob lopez..or tobias
Does it really matter? The Department is so short, the city is trying to blackball us regarding our pensions, and guys are still blogging about who got into a unit! Wakr up and lets get active about what really matters....
Rahm equals Shields political payback to bama.
Chico equals Hiram good choice.
Carol equals her brother LOL
devalle probably hiram
Just sayin...
Hiram Grau or Chuck Ramsey
BUT IF YOU WANT TO SEE A GREAT POLICE CHIEF,OPEN THIS SITE!!
(It's well worth your time/effort to view)
http://www.justnews.com/video/26601377/index.html
o'v(r)
OT: You might want to take a look at the newest post on www.mikeshieldsthetruth.com . Those who have not yet voted need to know the truth. Shields sent out an email that contained an out and out lie about the election process.
Rahm is picking Dart, that's why he didn't run. Supt pays way better.
Crime is not down. It takes double the amount of time if not triple to make a report on these useless computers in the squad cars.
It takes double if not triple the amount of time to make an arrest because of the new arrest procedures with these new computers and the paperless system.
We have 1/3 less cops on the streets to make arrests.
And these over educated idiots think they have reduced crime? NOT!
I would honestly say that 50% if not even more of any statistics within the Chicago Police Department are BULLSHIT! They re-phrase anything they can. Aburglary becomes a criminal damage to property 50% of the time.
Anybody can have a sharp pencil.
You cannot be on the job for a few years without getting to know someone on the inside (unless you are totally clueless).
RAHMULUS was THE guy when he threw it out in a casual conversation a year ago. The Democratic crime family that RUNS this City needed a candidate that would keep the status quo for the Midwest. The machine marches on.
I watched this machine stand up it's soldiers in a line over the past few months. The voters are the only thing to stop a machine that rivals Hollywood's Terminator.
Will the voters wake up, or will we be stamped out? Where is OUR John Connor.
Gene Williams or possibly Juan Rivera.
OT - Sgts pension more than a Superintendent?
"...The largest annual police pension went to Brian Degenhardt, whose annual pension is $172,161 — $14,447 a month. Another retired Chicago cop, Philip Cline, is pulling in $12,248 a month with his pension, that’s $146,973 annually..."
Wasn't Degenhardt the Sgt who did the dog fighting investigations? I'm also a 5 yr retired Sgt but he's pulling in about $10 grand a month more than me. Must have worked tons of OT I guess!
Also:
“Those receiving the largest annual pensions are retired Chicago police,” said Tobin, “and the proposed property tax increase pumps even more tax dollars into these pension funds. Of the top 10,000 police pensions, the average annual pension is a whopping $48,900..."
Yes, he said a WHOPPING $48,900! Subtract all of the out of whack, political hack, bloated, exempt CPD pensions and the rest of us don't and won't get SQUAT! Read more...
http://www.ntui.org/itef/retired-chicago-police-and-firemen-getting-rich-from-locally-funded-pensions#comments
No Matter who it is, this Dept ia beyond repair, do your 20 & get the F out
THE FUTURE LOOKS BLEAK!
MANY OF THESE FUTURE LEADERS CANT EVEN CONTROL THEIR FAMILIES.
STRANGE VIDEOS ON THE NET SCREAMING IN EMPTY CHURCHES
DAUGHTERS SELLING DRUGS AND HAVING WEAPONS
CHASING DOWN ROCK STARS AND SHAKING THEM DOWN AT AIRPORTS.
MORONS WHO CANT GET SECURITY CLEARANCES AND FAKE RESUMES.
BOSSES CONNECTED WITH CORRUPT ALDERMAN AND RUNNING SECURITY BIZNESS- USING DEPT RESOURCES!!!
MAY BE IF WE CONTINUE AT THIS RATE THE PUBLIC WILL CHANGE THEIR MINDS ABOUT "THE LAZY OVERPAID POLICE".
MAY BE THE CITY DESERVES THE SO CALLED NEW POLICE THAT FLASHES LIGHTS AT BANGERS HOPING THEY LEAVE AND WRITING TICKETS ON CAR AND BEING TO SCARED TO PUT THE TICKET ON THE CAR.
OR MY FAVORITE WHEN OFFICERS TELL THE BAD GUYS U DO SOMETHING AGAIN AND U R GOIN TO JAIL.
AND GUESS WHAT HAPPENS ANOTHER WARNING.
I DONT HAVE ANY ANSWER
4 of 5 Predicktive Analyckers choose BRETT GOLDSTEIN!? MASTERS fad infinitum? Hopefully Bruce Rottner- The Choosy Choosers' Chosen One!
it doesn't matter to me as long as we get rid of possum head and the next boss comes from within our ranks, preferably someone who sat in a beat car over 10 years--- the elephant in the room is the pension, we all know that---- the economy is recovering no time soon as beernanke just came out and said that we will not see unemployment drop down to the 5 or 6 percent level for another ten years---- mikey madigan is banging the war drums down south and wants to modify pension obligations for thousands of state employees--- TRANSLATION: mikey and the legislative body know they messed this whole thing up and they have to do something to make themselves look good again--- and the financial wizards here will wait and see what mikey gets away with and then they will come after us.... keep writing those movers and parkers to make the boss look good--- hahaha, the boss isn't going to get anything either.....
I'm glad I retired.
OT: The whole arrest system for the entire city crashed last night. Officers sitting in stations because no one could process prisoners for hours. No one would make the decision to revert to paper. Word is that the ISD Commander (JL) layed off all the civilians that worked on the system and farmed the work out to an outside company. They took forever to respond. I think when I left work at 0800, they were still down. So we are shorthanded, and those that still make arrests are sitting around wasting time because the system they use to process prisoners is down.
If they don't think the system used to process prisoners is important enough that they farm it out to outsiders, what is the message they are sending out to us? Just saying. Stay safe.
if one of the ladies gets it, the CPD is still in trouble (although, politically, it would sell); look for "the cousin"....
I worked in 014 with Danny Shields. U do not want this guy or anyone associated with him in charge of lunch let alone our issues.
Chuck Ramsey, former CPD, former Chief D.C., current Chief Philadelphia.
M.S. Fucked his partner, mike goes to Pension Board, his partner gets dumped to midnights and u going to vote for this guy?
The fix is already in. The Chicago Democratic Machine has already blessed this:
Bill Daley as Chief-of-staff, and then Rahm as Mayor, and the little gift for Michelle her cousin will make the move from the Board of Education to the New Sup. Shields will be touted as being from the ranks of the CPD.
So all of you who read this flame away behind. Where is the TEA Party when you need it.
Come on, I have been hearing rumors for months that Tommy Byrne was coming back. Or Huberman, until he got out of town. And really crazy nonsense about some former Law Dept guy as Chief of Staff.
But I think the rumors are nonsense; just a way for overworked, underappreciated cops to vent their fear that as bad as things are, the guys at the top will somehow find a way to make them worse.
God help us is right!!!
Doesn't Rahm know that if you put in a "Real Policeman" who backs Policework and his people,we'll produce. If I knew I wasn't being used and on my own,I'd go back to actually doing traffic stops etc, which generate...$$$$$.
it doesnt matter. the sup is the mayor s flunkie anyway. the media doesnt get it. do they think the sup has a free hand to run the police department? relocate police personal? why? so the ''progressives'' can ride the trains and rob people? we ve become armed babysitters for the social misfits.
Peter Griffin from family Guy.
J-Fed will get a contract extension right after Pat M, and Steve R get elected.
You know it's Kirby. Especially if her two kid lawyers get elected to FOP. The City will fucking own us.
OT - FYI
Forrest Claypool has endorsed Rahm Emanual.
Guess he needs a job now that he quit his County Commissioners seat to run and lose against Joe Berrios for County Assessor.
I heard Mike Shields.
All they'd have to do is ask Kirby if she ever covered up a scandal and that'd be the end of her.
Leave your Supt. recommendations here.
State your case in a short paragraph.
Once I have been able to monitor everyone's phone calls, I will get back to you with my decision.
Thanks for your participation!
Now, please, move along.
Hey Glen Popiela - 011, 3rd Watch Candidate for FOP Treasurer - Team Shields I have a few questinos/points for you.
I will not repost your long post but will ask you a few questions regarding it.
While MCCarthy may have started in 011 and worked there a few years and obtained a degree he has still worked "cushy" spots because of who his family is. For ever one McCarthy, there are 100's of PO's who obatained education as much as him and more who are still working in district law enforcement because they are not connected to be people like he is.
As for your facts and statistics about people attending union meetings. Please tell everyone how many meetings most of the people on the ticket attended before 2010? How many have they attending outside the minimum needed to run? How many of them have held unit rep position let alone watch rep spot?
Have you every been a watch rep/unit rep? Has Shields? Has McCarthy? Has Gorman? Has Curry? The answer for all five of you is no!
You have the most time with 19 years than anyone on the ticket running for an inside spot and how many meeting have you attended in those 19 years Glen? Just above the minimum to run!
What is your experience to be Treasurer?
What is Rivero's experience to be Financial Secretary?
What is McCrathy experience to run our legal fund other then having a law degree? Has he ever been inside a court room in front of a judge?
The Shields Team sent out a mass email on February 7, 2011. The email is entitled Ballot Info. It states, We've received many questions today about the ballots. Here are some helpful tips so your ballot is deemed valid: ......... Please remember that a partially completed ballot can be ruled incomplete by the Election Committee on election day, and is subject to NOT being counted.
Where does this guy come up with this stuff? There is nothing in the elction rules that states that a voter must make a selection for each and every office or a ballot can or will be declared incomplete by the Election Committee and not be counted. It is a bald-faced lie. How do I know? I called and asked because after participating in several past elections where this was never done, Shield's statement did not seem correct.
This is just another Team Shields attempt to scare voters into making a choice they might not otherwise make.
Actually, it is a pretty good example of the leadership style you can expect from the Team Shields leader and his crew. Please pass this on to a friend.
Mike shields team please answer this post below:
A Treasurer Question and Answer
Team Shields is really grasping at the rails as the ship begins to sink. The recent mailer sent by Mike and his Team asks more questions than gives answers.
One question, in particular, surounds our current Treasurer, John Capparelli. Mike's rag states The current FOP treasurer has been removed from the FOP office by President Donahue, yet he is still handling our money! No one at the FOP will address the issue of why.
Mike, here is a simple question for you. Why didn't you ask someone? You could have asked this question at a Board of Directors meeting that is always open to the members. You could have asked this question at a General Membership Meeting. You could have even made a simple phone call to the FOP and asked this question. Why would you let almost three years pass without asking this simple question if this was such an important issue?
I did what you either failed to do or chose not to do. I asked and got an answer. President Donahue told me that John Capparelli is an excellent Treasurer and has continued to perform well in his postion. The President has the authority to appoint the Field Representatives of the Lodge as provided in the Constitution and By Laws of Lodge #7. His decision was presented to the full Board of Directors at an open Board meeting for their approval. I was also advised that a member of your team, Harold Brown, was present and voted on the recommendation. Are you telling us that he voted on an issue where he didn't even know why he was casting a vote?
Mike, quite frankly your innuendo stinks. This is hardly the first time that a President has appointed someone as a Field Rep who is not one of the individuals elected to one of the seven top spots. But, I guess you wouldn't know that given your limited involvement in the FOP.
Mike Shields team, what about this:
Shields Does it Again
The Shields Team sent out a mass email on February 7, 2011. The email is entitled Ballot Info. It states, We've received many questions today about the ballots. Here are some helpful tips so your ballot is deemed valid: ......... Please remember that a partially completed ballot can be ruled incomplete by the Election Committee on election day, and is subject to NOT being counted.
Where does this guy come up with this stuff? There is nothing in the elction rules that states that a voter must make a selection for each and every office or a ballot can or will be declared incomplete by the Election Committee and not be counted. It is a bald-faced lie. How do I know? I called and asked because after participating in several past elections where this was never done, Shield's statement did not seem correct.
This is just another Team Shields attempt to scare voters into making a choice they might not otherwise make.
Actually, it is a pretty good example of the leadership style you can expect from the Team Shields leader and his crew. Please pass this on to a friend.
Rumor has it down here on 35th Street, that Alfonsa Wysinger is the leading candidate regardless if Chico or Rahm gets in... That comes from a VERY reliable source. I don't think he would be too bad..
Someone who has something to lose if they mess with our pension, I hope.
Watch him make Ozzie.
Lat night Rahm said he`s in favor of `reparations` to the decendants of slaves. Read it on the Drudge Report.
Pennywise
Pound foolish
Penny is a political hack. That's quite obvious.
Here's my prediction: M/2/ 35 -55 yoa with a law degree from a reknowned school; here's the clincher: he will be a 9161 = untainted by politics.
Who cares. We are screwed no matter what. The tone has been set. No SUPERINTENDENT ( or any of the exempt rank ) WILL EVER RUN THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT AGAIN. The politicians from the governor down to your local block club captain will determine how the Chicago Police will operate. Our status among the people is being lowered by the hour and that includes our bosses. Today we are seen as " PUBLIC SERVANTS " and its o.k. to start taking from us. Tomorrow who knows what we will be called.
It does not matter who is picked for the new superintendent. If the choice is only current department members, you will be disappointed and have new fodder for this blog for years to come. Only an outdsider, from NYPD, LAPD or some other medium size city will be able to bring fresh ideas and eyes to this department.Every exempt currently, was promoted under the old political process, no matter how much you may like them or dislike them.
The destroying of Police Agencies is a goal of Obama and the Socialist Left. It is easier to control overall U. S. Law Enforcement by having only one Nationwide Police Agency, and use it against any dissenters. This is why the CPD will not get the best person for the job of Supt. CPD will get the person the next Mayor chooses . This will be the person who will blindly follow, and further the agenda, just like Weiss is to Daley.
Rahm is going to bring back Ron "Crazy Eyes" Huberman, do not doubt it and the link.
Why do you think he left CPS early? He is getting his re-tread work out of the way so he can just walk in.
Daley in Dubai? Ron "Crazy Eyes" related to a Prince in Dubai? Rahm with the Hollywood connection and the accounts off-shore?
Ron "Crazy Eyes" Huberman
Enough said.
There was a decent turnout at the Chico rally last night, but it would've been better to really have packed the joint. This election could really alter OUR futures! Between CPD, CFD and Local 150, that's the best we could do??
Then again, we've never stood together, why start now?!
Shields, Kirby, Lopez, Ramsey, and Terry Gainer are Rahm's top five contenders.
I say the first thing they need to do is get Bill Cozzi out of that God forsaken shithole he is in and at the least bring him back closer to home. What has happened to him is a miscarriage of justice.
I am glad to say that the billboard was rented for 1 month and has been up for nearly 5 months .......Thanks Bob for what you did.
I hope we can all have a nice party for Bill when he comes back home.
Bob, Please plan that since you did so well \with the billboard.
Dont forget where Bill is and to drop him a line.......and screw all these politicians. and remember Free Bill Cozzi
Jfed is not going to leave. It will be a dog and pony show by doing interviews and having a nationwide search. But in the end the new mayor will say we looked and discovered that the best choice has been here all along. He reduced crime, brought in new technology blah, blah, blah. Don't forget Da Mayo will still run things behind the OZ curtin! Do You really think Da Mayo crime family would give up the pot- o- gold called Chicago taxpayers (sheep)?
Chico Chico Chico Chico!!!
my vote goes to the person who does away with merit
Greg Bella has been the loudest voice against Da Mayo over the last 5 years. Read the newsletters he will do the same against Rahm. He should have been the President years ago but it was stolen from him. One thing about Bella he has the balls to tell it like it is. Expect a lot of fireworks once he hets in!!!
If Rahm wins, it will be Huberman. He is currently unemployed.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-judge-approves-delay-in-ohare-expansion-suit-20110210,0,1791835.story
they really, really, really don't want Andolino deposed, do they?
While we are talking of "Great Supervisor's on this job with great personalities. Then, why not throw in AZ and TS from 011 as contenders for the top spot?
With all of these suggestions I think I will turn over in my grave, septing I ain't dead just yet.
In answer to the question qbout using the Patch, Logo and Star of the CPD the request is through the 1st Deputys office to the police board who has the final approval. THat is written in the city code.
Dart will succeed Rahm as mayor or Quinn as governor. Why do cpd inbetween? CPD needs someone at the top who's worked chicago's streets but has experience outside the department too.
for my money SL from 007 will get the job, count on it !
My father left the job a little earlier than he had planned when he say the likes of a Shahill in a CPD uniform. Semper Fi.
I'd like to see Jackson, but he won't take it....Juan Rivera....I would love to see Commander Kupczyk, but thats a pipe dream.
I vote for Siezer....I heard he runs it anyways.
Rahm has over 50% in polls now so talking about who others might pick, except maybe Chico, is a waste of time.
Joe Patterson is a thought
It will be Grau. He is the only one who always looked up to Rahm.
Anyone have any idea why Masters is assembling an army under the Superintendent's umbrella since he is on the way out? Doesn't make any sense.
2/10/2011 05:42:00 AM
he thinks he's on the way up.
Dep. Chief Juan Rivera
2/10/2011 07:10:00 AM
Chico should say this and say it now.
Masters will be the new head honcho! Get used to the idea that he is here to stay.
Who let "Chicago Code" use our uniforms and STARS in a show that doesn't really paint the City in a good light?
2/10/2011 08:21:00 AM
Rembrandt couldn't paint this town's politics in a good light.
Lets talk about the FOP elections. Looked at some of the folks running and had to slap myself for not!
What a collection of do-nothing guys/gals.
Let me get this right: you were never a worker , never a unit rep, not even a watch rep, and now you want to be an elected union official.
And where does your merit come from? What have you done?
Choose your reps carefully folks. There are some good people out there on the ballot.
Do we trust our leadership in people who have worked for exempts with a pattern of screwing the hard working police? Know where and what units these folks are coming from. Personally , not a fan of the current prez, but some of the people under him have worked hard to help coppers out.
gainer would be a solid choice.
If they don't think the system used to process prisoners is important enough that they farm it out to outsiders, what is the message they are sending out to us? Just saying. Stay safe.
2/10/2011 10:09:00 AM
that they like my work and support me wholeheartedly?
Chalkie
Where is the TEA Party when you need it.
2/10/2011 10:44:00 AM
you're in the wrong state of the union.
Re:OT: I m at 35th and Michigan and I love seeing all the limited duty people scrambling to get documentation from there Dr so they can stay down here. The crack down on medical abuse has begun, and Its about time. Nobody wants to go back to the districts. I see people claiming limited duty working out, lugging around bags and its a joke!
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I will preface this by saying that I am not at 35th & Michigan but I am duty disabled and working out moderately is necessary to maintain cardiovascular health and overall muscle quality. People with back or neck injuries can neither drive for an entire tour of duty nor sit for that period of time. Don't be so judgmental because one day, that could be you!
By the way,l how did you get your nice spot at 35th St?
Lat night Rahm said he`s in favor of `reparations` to the decendants of slaves. Read it on the Drudge Report.
2/10/2011 12:35:00 PM
so start writing checks, rahmbutt, on your own personal account.
Rahm has over 50% in polls now so talking about who others might pick, except maybe Chico, is a waste of time.
2/10/2011 04:28:00 PM
Polls, schmolls. It doesn't mean a thing until all the votes are counted. You were lucky to have been born in a country where you have a voice with your vote. Use it. Stand up. Be counted.
in reality, if whoever the next Supt. becomes just another lapdog for the next mayor, what real difference would it make, from all of the years past?
To the guy digging on the Shields Team, why don't you put your name on it?
Well put as far as union elections go. Bella, Bailey, Graham,are a few good guys. Dougherty, Sid Davis, Aguilar, nope....
Shields, Mccarthy, self serving connected people..
Dubinski, Jaglowski, dumb and dumber....
What is this crap about retired CPD getting huge pensions. How could Degenhardt get $172,000 and Ronnie Miller $150,000 Thats not possible I dont even know what the supt gets paid but I doubt its that much Understand Cline getting his because that was aboput 75% of his salary, but the other two, no way Can anyone explain this
Whiever is not afraid to get there hands on shitheads is good for me. Come out and play w us on feidays and sats and see what its all about. Look at theshit we go through and live ir so that you can really say u were the police with you fellow officers til that happens ill pick jennifer beales at least she goes out to every crime scene. Hey i can fantisize right
Bob Lopez would make the ideal Supt.,great people person, knows the job,and will not bend under pressure.
Leo Schmitz!!! Just ask him LMFAO!
The shields team are a bunch of people with phone calls from units.
Rahm's Pick will be Bill Ayers or whoever his Don, George Soros, tells him.
Or it might be the FBI guy who destroyed the tapes from Blago.
Juan Rivera ALL the way!!! I worked for this guy in A/5 and let me say he is the most stand up boss I have seen in a looooooong time. He works the street anf NOT afraid to lock someone up... Juan and Chico are the men!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Shields, Kirby, Lopez, Ramsey, and Terry Gainer are Rahm's top five contenders.
2/10/2011 01:47:00 PM
Terry Gainer? That asshat has single handedly ruined a once proud organization and left it a withered shell of what it once was. Since he became the director of the Illinois State Police, it has gone downhill and instead of strong leadership, yes men and ass kissers have taken over. Those were the types of people he surrounded himself with. He also damaged the US Capitol Police as well as the Metro Police of the District of Columbia. And here we thought, as members of the ISP, that we were finally getting a former Chicago copper as our boss. We had such high hopes. Little did anyone know that he was the embodiment of evil and incompetence. Oh, and I think he's also a 42 short. There's something about little short fucks that make them angry and nasty bastards!
Neither Rivera nor Grau could pass the lieutenants high enough to be promoted in rank order (read merit), neither could Lopez; however, Grau was a working policemen and would be a good start down our long road to recovery. So, here it is-Chico. Get your decrepit parents, grandparents and in-laws out to vote. And the Irish will need to forget they're Irish for once and vote their conscience and vote for Gery Chico.
Westside Sgt.
Patterson is a great guy, like my old partner, but could pass neither his sergeants nor leiutenants tests high enough to be promoted. Would you knowingly board a plane if the pilot was awarded his wings based upon factors unrelated to his competency on his test? I think not.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: The whole arrest system for the entire city crashed last night. Officers sitting in stations because no one could process prisoners for hours. No one would make the decision to revert to paper. Word is that the ISD Commander (JL) layed off all the civilians that worked on the system and farmed the work out to an outside company. They took forever to respond. I think when I left work at 0800, they were still down. So we are shorthanded, and those that still make arrests are sitting around wasting time because the system they use to process prisoners is down.
If they don't think the system used to process prisoners is important enough that they farm it out to outsiders, what is the message they are sending out to us? Just saying. Stay safe.
2/10/2011 10:09:00 AM
The message is when the system goes down make an arrest asap, preferably just before checkoff. Then sit and wait and check the money box.
FOP backed Chico Rahm is going to win then stick it so far up our arses we will not be able to walk. Why not just remain silent? I know why because they are for the most part a bunch of political hacks, who run for office because they have no interest in working the streets.To make matter worse they endorsed Eddie Burke who is a useless piece of shit, what a fucking joke.
Take this to the bank if Mike Shields gets the job Ray Hamilton is done, and so is Mike Masters.
DC W. Gulliford. Intelligent, experienced, capable. But too smart to take the job if offered. Anyways, it's not a white guys turn again. He would be a good choice.
the sup is the mayor s flunkie anyway.
EXACTLY!
That's why no matter who's selected, the rank & file will hate him. It's always been that way, and always will be. In over twenty years on the job, I don't recall one Sup who was popular with the troops. It just doesn't happen. So, really, what the fuck does it matter?
Mike shields is coming back and bringing Glombicki back with him from board of Ed.
Shields, Kirby, Lopez, Ramsey, and Terry Gainer are Rahm's top five contenders.
2/10/2011 01:47:00 PM
PLEASE stop recycling these old has beens! Is there nothing new, that we have to recycle old manure?
Notice how quiet the SOS scandal has become. Wow I guess it is over and people can go to Central Control Group.
why cant Daley and any union leaders that ok'd city not funding our pension be sued individually for friggn malfeasance....if Burge should lose his pension asshole Daley should never receive a dime
Face it rahm's a shoe in Were screwed
Dugan will be back as the 1st and Grau will be the Supt.
Joe Patterson or John Escalante. But then again Mayor's don't like to pick coppers who are competent,well liked and can think for theirselves.
"Who's Got the Inside Track?"
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Frankly, I don't give a damn.
Shirley
2/10/2011 04:28:00 PM
Polls, schmolls. It doesn't mean a thing until all the votes are counted. You were lucky to have been born in a country where you have a voice with your vote. Use it. Stand up. Be counted.
2/10/2011 05:15:00 PM
Point taken. I do plan to vote. Just not going to spend lots of time wondering who the bottom two candidates might pick for supt.
If it's Rahm, it could be Rottner as a civilian. If so watch for his flunky secretary officer C.A. to move with him. This department really has taken a huge downward turn in the last 5 years!!!!
Tribune endorsed Murphy in the 41st Ward. Coppers better get out there and vote for Sgt Gonzalez or else there might be no one to stand up to Rahm when it comes to our pensions.
Bob Lopez would make the ideal Supt.,great people person, knows the job,and will not bend under pressure.
2/10/2011 06:36:00 PM
Screw him and all the Reverands he had to run to so he could get his gold star back.
Whoever it is , it doesn't matter. C P D will continue to be the joke that it now is, Thanks to all the DemocRAT Politicians turning it into a backstabbers paradise and political Whorehouse.
Who cares! Lets get this pension thing straight!
OT: I m at 35th and Michigan and I love seeing all the limited duty people scrambling to get documentation from there Dr so they can stay down here. The crack down on medical abuse has begun, and Its about time. Nobody wants to go back to the districts. I see people claiming limited duty working out, lugging around bags and its a joke.
2/10/2011 01:11:00 AM
oh really so what does that make you? A full duty pussy working inside. Many po's have different limitations and what they should be looking at is at all the full duty po's still at 35th. Just an FYI the lawsuits pending against the city and the Dr at the m.s. are stacking up keep fu..ing with the limited duty.
Anonymous said...
gainer would be a solid choice.
2/10/2011 04:51:00 PM
You are obviously off your meds.
its done the stub wins
VOTE!
If you don't you get what you deserve!
What is this crap about retired CPD getting huge pensions. How could Degenhardt get $172,000 and Ronnie Miller $150,000 Thats not possible I dont even know what the supt gets paid but I doubt its that much Understand Cline getting his because that was aboput 75% of his salary, but the other two, no way Can anyone explain this
2/10/2011 05:52:00 PM
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I agree, I guess he was a sergeant, when? When did he retire? He is making more than any of our retired superintendents? can't be. We don't get pension from overtime or out of grade, there is no way he could be paid enough while working here to get that pension? Anyone know his history?
The rest of the ones on that list, aren't too far off the mark, since there is a 3% COLA every year once you hit 55... I don't see how the numbers add up, unless he went on to some other job and for some unknown reason was allowed to collect from our pension... I would love to know who he is and how he finagled this deal... looks awfully fishy...
PLEASE stop recycling these old has beens! Is there nothing new, that we have to recycle old manure?
2/10/2011 08:40:00 PM
has the puppy pooped yet?
The message is when the system goes down make an arrest asap, preferably just before checkoff. Then sit and wait and check the money box.
2/10/2011 08:03:00 PM
awwww sheeeet, now you've let the cat out of the bag.....
It will be Lt Paul Kane from MSF
Good idea.
CLASS ACTION SUIT against Daley RE: our UNDERFUNDED PENSIONS and the LIES created
BY THE CITY because of The CITY'S reaction to it.
LIARS ALL.
WE MUST STICK TOGETHER NO MATTER WHAT!
Spartacus !
wysinger way to arrogant
Never knew how good patterson was till they brought in the moron welch.
Gene Williams or Rivera, all the others are out.
The problem is they would never consider anyone other than a current exempt, there are plenty of leaders out there who arent gold braids
2/10/11 at 12:35
If true, they owe me 1 ton of gold from the utoman empire and a affirmative action Sgt promotion in Greektown.
Anonymous said...
Dugan will be back as the 1st and Grau will be the Supt.
2/10/2011 09:46:00 PM
No way, Leroy Martin is coming back, or Breczak, with Matt Rodriguez & Hillard possible 1st Deputy.
Mr. Leather!
Reparations? Maybe the city can start paying the white males and females fucked over by affirmative action and the merit system.
To those of you wondering how Sgt. Degenhardt is able to receive a pension of 172K per year, the answer is he didn't and can't. The good Sgt. contracted some weird disease while working. He nearly died from that disease. I suspect what happened is he sued the city and won. They probably reached an agreement in which he will receive 172K a year payable at 14K a month. But it is NOT pension money. But why would Jim Tobin allow the truth get in the way of attacking Police or Fire pensions. Just print what makes headlines and will attract the publics attention and wrath.
Boy I hope it's Tom Byrne.
OT - Sgts pension more than a Superintendent?
"...The largest annual police pension went to Brian Degenhardt, whose annual pension is $172,161 — $14,447 a month. Another retired Chicago cop, Philip Cline, is pulling in $12,248 a month with his pension, that’s $146,973 annually..."
Wasn't Degenhardt the Sgt who did the dog fighting investigations? I'm also a 5 yr retired Sgt but he's pulling in about $10 grand a month more than me. Must have worked tons of OT I guess!
WTF, Illinois Atty General's Office needs to look into this ASAP. How in the hell does a sgt make a higher pension then the last several Superintendents!?? That sticks of bullshit...
Wysinger has had the rails greased for him for years. Nice enough guy, but that's easy when everything goes your way.
The final straw was winning the Lambert Tree for some off-duty incident where he shot at (and missed) a guy by his mom's house.
This GIFT was an insult to every winner of that award and everyone who was up for it that year. Left a real sour taste in every one's mouth. He is NOT the best shot at healing this Department.
Paul Kane =yes man.
Anonymous said...
why cant Daley and any union leaders that ok'd city not funding our pension be sued individually for friggn malfeasance....if Burge should lose his pension asshole Daley should never receive a dime
2/10/2011 09:05:00 PM
They can, so do it. You can make it a class action if you so desire. You just have to go to a union meeting, say that during new business, have it called for a vote then if the yeas have it it's a done deal.
a side note:
SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) - Illinois lawmakers have missed their chance to block Gov. Pat Quinn's choice to run the state police.
Officials with the governor's office and the state Senate said Thursday that Jonathon Monken's appointment will soon become official, despite questions about whether he's up to the job.
Monken is 31 and has no law enforcement experience. Quinn nominated him in March 2009, but the Senate never took a formal vote to confirm Monken or reject him.
The constitution says Monken's appointment becomes official if the Senate doesn't act soon. But the Senate can't act because he was nominated in the last legislative session and rules don't allow for a vote in the brand new session.
Senators say they delayed action to see how Monken would perform.
Was at 35th st. Asked Kirby, straight out about supt., she gave me the impression it was a viable subject at the same time trying to make light of it.
Wysinger was seriously thoughtful when asked, he's not a bad guy for it.
But Juan Rivera, after seeing him in action in 025 and A/5 Dep. Chief would be the best choice, in my opinion.
Remember what my name is.
Heck you get on an airplane or go into surgery, you don't know if the pilot was an ace or the doctor was top of the class......what's needed is someone with good common sense, street knowledge, and fairness at thee top, things not necessarily that comes with a degree or diploma
Two comments: First, it is possible for a patrolman to get a much larger pension. He /she could have held a higher job title, either sworn or civilian in the department. I have known a few people who have done this and left with exempt pensions. Second, the comment about Gainer screwing up the state police. Yes, I know a few of them and none of them liked him at the time. Why, I do not know. there is no telling who you will get as a superintendent with the new mayor.But, expect one thing: the same old political crap, inefficiencies, clout, hidden agendas and axes to grind.
Anonymous said...
OT: I m at 35th and Michigan and I love seeing all the limited duty people scrambling to get documentation from there Dr so they can stay down here. The crack down on medical abuse has begun, and Its about time. Nobody wants to go back to the districts. I see people claiming limited duty working out, lugging around bags and its a joke.
2/10/2011 01:11:00 AM
oh really so what does that make you? A full duty pussy working inside. Many po's have different limitations and what they should be looking at is at all the full duty po's still at 35th. Just an FYI the lawsuits pending against the city and the Dr at the m.s. are stacking up keep fu..ing with the limited duty.
2/10/2011 11:02:00 PM
Limited duty is so abused by officers. Who you kidding. How often are limited duty officers evaluated? How long can they stay light duty? 5 years for non duty related issues? Give me a break. Bring on the lawsuits.
Anonymous said...
DC W. Gulliford. Intelligent, experienced, capable. But too smart to take the job if offered. Anyways, it's not a white guys turn again. He would be a good choice.
2/10/2011 08:16:00 PM
Gulliford is white and will not be selected. But he would be great to command the academy. Anyone to replace Howard.
Tribune endorsed Murphy in the 41st Ward. Coppers better get out there and vote for Sgt Gonzalez or else there might be no one to stand up to Rahm when it comes to our pensions.
2/10/2011 10:40:00 PM
Better yet, Mullen.
Inside scoop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejFunw1E6nQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
What is this crap about retired CPD getting huge pensions. How could Degenhardt get $172,000 and Ronnie Miller $150,000 Thats not possible I dont even know what the supt gets paid but I doubt its that much Understand Cline getting his because that was aboput 75% of his salary, but the other two, no way Can anyone explain this
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Where's our ace watchdog Shields??? THis all happened under his watch at the Pension Board, He's supposed to have our backs? Only in front of the television cameras!
Whats really scary is that he has so many on you fooled into voting for him and his house mice!
Don't leave Little Tommy Byrne out as a possible Supt. candidate...he already has his head up Rhams ass through Alderman O'Connor. His daughter is one of Rahns drivers already and the PO running rahms drivers detail is a hack of Byrnes and O'Connors. His Family goes way back in O'Connors ward...I think a street in the ward is name after the PO's father...As for Masters....him and Rahm also are old friends from the daley Machine and 44th ward politics...Citizens beware and vote for Chico
De Lopez is the man
I told yous, Michelles cousin MIKE SHIELDS is gonna be Supt.! Gaurantee it
We have a streak on going my entire career.
Some people complained about Fred Rice.
Then Leroy Martin got in and more people complained about him.
That lasted just until Matt Rodriguez started work on the day of the Loop Flood and then started hanging out at Orsi's on Wells St.
The drumbeat was very loud for Matt to go and go he did, replaced by Terry Hillard. Was everybody happy? No. More complaints from rank & file, constantly.
Then Phil Cline took over the top spot and the bitter and frequently vicious complaints grew even louder.
Finally Fat Phil was dumped and Jody P. Weis was handed the keys to the kingdom.
Needless to say, things haven't gotten any better under Weis, worse in fact.
And what was the common thread in this downward spiral?
If you guessed Richard M Daley you win sir! Daley appointed them all except for Fred Rice, appointed by Harold Washington.
We have to assume that Rahm will get in and I'd bet the mortgage money on yet another, even more political, Superintendent of Police. Worse, of course than any of the previous bosses going back 25 years.
What, you expected the next boss to be someone we could be proud to work for?
Ha!
When we get a Mayor we can be proud of we will also get a Police Superintendent we can be proud of. Not before.
Damn Fire Department gets a great boss and we get a parade of people suitable for hauling manure and little else.
Inside Track? Doesn't matter, not in this career.
Anonymous said...
My source says Chico will pick Hiram Grau as Superintendant
2/10/2011 12:39:00 AM
My source says O. W. Wilson will be exhumed and his casket brought to 3510 S Michigan Ave to the Superintendent's office where he will do a better job, dead, than Leroy, Matt, Terry, Phil and Jody did alive.
I say give Chief Nicholas Roti (Organized Crime Division) an opportunity, standup guy and will tell you like it is...
Take my pension and I will be forced to eat jail food. Either way I will eat. Take pensions and see what happens, there will be some angry fuckin people..............
Anonymous said...
All they'd have to do is ask Kirby if she ever covered up a scandal and that'd be the end of her.
2/10/2011 11:42:00 AM
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Thats where you are wrong. When she admits that she covered up a scandal she will get it automatically beccause they know she will play ball.
Anonymous said...
OT - Sgts pension more than a Superintendent?
"...The largest annual police pension went to Brian Degenhardt, whose annual pension is $172,161 — $14,447 a month. Another retired Chicago cop, Philip Cline, is pulling in $12,248 a month with his pension, that’s $146,973 annually..."
Wasn't Degenhardt the Sgt who did the dog fighting investigations? I'm also a 5 yr retired Sgt but he's pulling in about $10 grand a month more than me. Must have worked tons of OT I guess!
WTF, Illinois Atty General's Office needs to look into this ASAP. How in the hell does a sgt make a higher pension then the last several Superintendents!?? That sticks of bullshit...
2/11/2011 08:05:00 AM
You new to the CPD? Overtime has never been pensionable here.
Whoever it is , it doesn't matter. C P D will continue to be the joke that it now is, Thanks to all the DemocRAT Politicians turning it into a backstabbers paradise and political Whorehouse.
Well little man you had better look it up and see who in congress is trying to take away your pension.
You got what you wanted deal with it.
Kirk is the one in congress along with most of the new congressman that are working on killing unions and pensions, Many city are now placing full page adds in the paper trying to counter it.
2/11 7:30am
White females fucked over by affirmative action??? Back in the late 70' early 80's it was so many white males, so many black males and so many females in every academy class. White bitches never beefed then about affirmative action. Guess they got tired of being lumped together with their black sisters. Speaking of affirmative action how about all us white guys who never got our veterans points from the city because it was deemed unfair to women. Yeah never got those points to come on the job or when I made Sgt. Never saw no white women in the induction center and surely never saw no white women in the Infantry with me in the Nam.
Degenhardt is the ultimate scammer. He had a stroke, which sent him away for a while when
Animal Crimes Investigations was part of SOS under then Cmdr. Gulliford. After he recovered, he
wanted to 'take over' control of that small unit, but the leadership of SOS (then known as Special Functions) had changed following the scandal. When his request return as the sole Sgt. of that unit was denied (he was offered the opportunity to work in that unit with the Sgt. who had replaced him), he somehow managed to get that entire unit MOVED to Gang Investigations, so that he could be
put back at the helm. This little deal was made on the 5th floor of headquarters, with Masters pulling the strings. The Sgt. who had headed up ACI was detailed to a district, as were all of the officers who were assigned to the unit. This was done via an e-mail from Tracey Ladner late Weds. evening before changeday, so no calls could be made to reverse this. Degenhardt was detailed to Gangs to again head up the ACI under Schmitz, but Degenhardt, always full of himself, kept bumping heads with Schmitz until Degenhardt got himself tossed out of Gangs in order for Leo to maintain his sanity. Degenhardt took some sort of leave at that point, but apparently he's managed to retire and receive a handsome sum at the same time. As outrageous as his payout is, it's worth it for this arrogant bum to leave the CPD, never to return. Adios asshat!
Heck you get on an airplane or go into surgery, you don't know if the pilot was an ace or the doctor was top of the class......what's needed is someone with good common sense, street knowledge, and fairness at thee top, things not necessarily that comes with a degree or diploma
But at least they managed to pass their exams.
....he might bring someone back, if he liked their resume. And we all know that some real idiots look great on paper, even though they're poison in reality.
-SO MT Mr.SoS WITH CHICO HA HA THAT's great will be F'ed for sure
Mullen is a fighter and a hell of a nice guy. But he's not up for the job. Not with how fucked up our city is. It's a full time job people. Gavin's clueless and O'Connors a grocer.
This Murphy character will go after existing pensions. Gonzalez is the only choice if you're a copper in the 41st Ward.
Rahm is going to pick Jennifer Beals or Angie Dickinson.
As long as Rahm doesn't take that female DC chick. One of our female bosses already made her cry in public once.
Yes the SOS scandal has gotten very quiet as of late, so has the Marquette 10 scandal. Before you know it the Summerdale scandal will be off the blog entirely. Welcome back from your coma Rip.
I think Wysinger is really a nice guy and there is no doubt he's a great copper and totally dedicated but for fucks sake how old is he? Don't even talk about Byrne. He's 94 if he's a day. Don't tell me dudes don't get Botox.
Little Tommy was never tall enough to be the real police when he got on the job in 1970 but the puppet strings were pulled and Tommy got taller and became the police but never the real police. What a joke, talked like a tuff guy but never was on the sreet.
Gonzalez? Are you fucking kidding? I'm sure every honest policemen residing in the 41st Ward who ever had his promotion snatched away from him courtesy of the "merit" system is just tripping over himself to vote for this tool who never did a lick of police work, ever. Gonzalez is going to get a little dose of reality when he see's the election night returns. We don't want him up here anymore than they want him in 013. Vote Merit-Vote Gonzalez.
011, 3rd watch, Sgt Truhlar would make a great Superintendent.
010, 2nd watch, Sgt Ferrer (sp) would make a great Dep. Superintendent.
Gotta go now.
Anonymous said...
Don't leave Little Tommy Byrne out as a possible Supt. candidate...he already has his head up Rhams ass through Alderman O'Connor. His daughter is one of Rahns drivers already and the PO running rahms drivers detail is a hack of Byrnes and O'Connors. His Family goes way back in O'Connors ward...I think a street in the ward is name after the PO's father...As for Masters....him and Rahm also are old friends from the daley Machine and 44th ward politics...Citizens beware and vote for Chico
2/11/2011 04:16:00 PM
Maybe they will bring back Bernie Hansen and make him a Deputy of Something-or-Other
That way someone can ask Bernie what the hell was it that Masters did in Bernie Hansen's ward office that qualifies him to hold a high ranking police position.
Brock Merck for 41st ward alderman...15 year veteran of the CPD and a lawyer....Great Guy ask anyone in 14th District
I have an idea, lets take some high level boss that has rode the magic clout carpet his entire career after he quit his paper route and make him the superintendant. After all, they would know the department better than an outsider. Better yet, lets take some retired boss who has enjoyed some of his big dollar pension and bring them back, you know, a guy with a big smile telling you how great and fair this job is. What a load of crap
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