ACLU Criticizes Cameras
Chicago’s network of more than 10,000 public and private surveillance cameras has solved crimes, prevented police misconduct and made residents feel safe, Mayor Daley said Tuesday, rejecting the American Civil Liberties Union’s call for a moratorium on new cameras and strict controls on existing ones.
One day after the ACLU proposed reining in the Big Brother program, Daley talked about expanding it to prevent senior citizens living in high-crime neighborhoods from becoming prisoners in their homes.
“Don’t you think we should be concerned for seniors that someone is standing out there at 2 o’clock in the morning or 8 o’clock in the morning? A senior is going to church in the morning. Don’t you think that senior should be protected as he or she leaves a building or their home?” Daley said after ribbon-cutting ceremonies at a new senior citizens complex in Pilsen.
You know what protects the senior citizen? Cops on the streets. Or concealed weapons on the senior citizen. The ACLU is worried about abuses of the cameras and one of our regular e-mailers from the west side tells us that Penny's Pod Room isn't allowing regular citizens in to view cameras until they undergo training on Fourth Amendment issues as we do. Seems only reasonable.
What worries us is the ACLU taking a very close interest in anything to do with the Pods. We figure it's only a matter of time before they file some sort of lawsuit against the Department over camera usage and some copper who was only trying to generate activity for some mission is dragged into Federal court and finds his house is on the line for civil rights violations.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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These f*cking ultra liberal lawyer pricks aren't happy unless they can whine about something, anything!
It’s about time the ACLU did something constructive.
Here is a novel idea, why don’t they sue Daley and the Chicago Democratic Party for 80 years of vote fraud and stealing elections.
ACLU is a little late to the party.
Fret not, ACLU, for most of this (technology) dosn't work very well.
A lie detector machine only works if the subject fears/believes in it.
As long as idiots feel safe.
Smoke and mirrors.
Another Shortshank fallacy like his handgun ban getting the guns off the street.
I want an audit.
BTW hows that gun owner database coming eh... yeah...more wasted money. The pod cams, the voo-doo crime predication computers. Homicides and auto thefts up over 20% last year for Jan. and these people want to piss on your head and tell you it's rain.
Oh..."indexed crime" is down. Yeah right.
OT - Simply shocking!
Blagojevich Claims Call 'Missing' From Evidence
CHICAGO — Rod Blagojevich's name resurfaced in the Chicago mayoral race Tuesday when his attorneys named leading candidate and former White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel in a motion claiming key evidence is missing in the impeached Illinois governor's upcoming retrial on corruption charges.
Blagojevich's motion alleges a record of a phone call between a top Blagojevich aide and Emanuel is among "mysteriously missing" evidence. Blagojevich's attorneys asked a judge to order prosecutors to turn over records of the call, saying it would strengthen the former governor's claim of innocence.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/
local/chi-ap-us-blagojevichtrial-,0,2919689.story
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Is race the reason that the mayor has decided to keep Jody Weis around until May? Rumors are starting to spread that things have been said on the 5th floor of both city hall and 35th that the race of the Asst Supt is the deciding factor for not allowing the next in the command chain, James Jackson, to be the acting Superintendent which has been past practice.
Anonymous said...
"...Blagojevich's motion alleges a record of a phone call between a top Blagojevich aide and Emanuel is among "mysteriously missing" evidence..."
2/09/2011 02:45:00 AM
No wonder Rahm is such a smug little bastard ... He knows that's one trial he won't have to defend himself in.
Did anyone really think that there would STILL be a recording around implicating Rahm or Obama in illegally manipulating who the next Senator from Illinois would be?
REALLY?
Even if there never was evidence of a phone call, isn't it the goal of Blago's lawyers to create a "reasonable doubt" about his guilt? If I'm sitting on that jury, there's plenty of reasonable doubt right there!
I wonder if the Feds are destroying the evidence of JJJr's phone calls, as well?
OT: Per today's Slum Times, I didn't read the article because it would make me ill if I did, but the heading says Madigan is open to lowering pensions.
Open, indicates to me it's a done deal.
People, if any of you aren't encouraging you offspring to get their education and flee this state your a moron.
The only way to hurt the entrenched is to do like we did in Vietnam, destroy it to save it. Illinois is losing residents and encouraging the flight of the midle-class, our kids, will hasten it's demise.
Unless someone can invent an infared camera that fires bullets at an offender committing a crime then they are useless.Hey wait a minute...if I only had a connection to City Hall..
damn right concealed carry!
scc nails it again.
please visit illinoiscarry.com
Cameras don't pay into pensions and people who make exempt pay monitoring drain them.
if a family member of the head of the aclu was the victim of a crime he/she would be asking all kinds of questions--- why were their no security cameras, where were the police, how come this guy got out of jail early----- you can't win against these people, they will complain about everything......
I'm agree with the ACLU on this one. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Here it comes boys and girls
Madigan open to discussing cuts in state pensions
BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND STEPHEN DI BENEDETTO Sun-Times staff Reporters Feb 9, 2011 08:05AM
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Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan is leaving all option open to deal with the state’s deficit. | Seth Perlman ~AP
SPRINGFIELD — The top House Democrat delivered potentially sobering news Tuesday to the state workforce, saying for the first time publicly that he’s open to a discussion about scaling back existing state workers’ pensions thought to be sacred under Illinois’ Constitution.
The comments by House Speaker Michael Madigan (D-Chicago) set the stage for a contentious spring showdown in the Legislature with the state’s largest public-employee unions, who have vowed to go to the mat to protect retirement benefits for tens of thousands of existing government workers.
“I think we will take some action on the benefit level for state workers midstream,” Madigan said during an impromptu meeting with reporters on the House floor after his legislative chamber adjourned.
Last April, the Democratic-led Legislature and Gov. Quinn raised retirement ages and lessened benefits in a major pension-giveback package that pertained only to new state hires. It was estimated the move would save the state $220 million in future pension outlays.
Since then, with the state’s five pension systems underfunded by more than $85 billion, statehouse Democrats have faced calls for deeper pension cuts from Republicans and business leaders who want to freeze existing pension benefits for existing state workers and transition them into an all-401(k)-type retirement program like many companies offer.
“You’ve already changed it going forward,” Madigan said of the pension changes for new hires. “But now we are working on bills that would change it midstream. A state worker would be told, ‘All right, you have a state benefit package up to today. Starting tomorrow, it’s going to be a different deal.’”
Afterwards, Madigan spokesman Steve Brown cautioned not to portray his boss as “an advocate” for such an approach but that he is merely saying there “is going to be a discussion, and we’ll see where that discussion takes us.”
Brown would not divulge details of any legislative package the speaker may be considering.
Told of Madigan’s comments, a spokesman for state government’s largest public-employee union, the American Federation of County State and Municipal Employees Council 31, insisted a pension rollback involving existing workers would be unconstitutional and described the push for that as the handiwork of “some of Chicago’s corporate tycoons who have been banging the drum for what are clearly unconstitutional attacks on pension benefits of current employees.”
“These corporate CEOs are out after public service workers and retirees. There’s no secret about that. Far too many politicians are listening to them,” AFSCME spokesman Anders Lindall said. “But all the corporate money in the world can’t change the plain language of the Illinois Constitution.”
The state Constitution dictates that those enrolled in any retirement system covering state, municipal or school employees cannot see their benefits “diminished or impaired.”
The head of the Civic Federation -- a Chicago-based financial watchdog that has called for raising the retirement age, increasing employee pension contributions and reducing post-retirement cost-of-living increases for existing state workers -- characterized Madigan’s statements as “significant.”
“I’m not aware of the speaker or anybody else in a position of Democratic leadership saying they’d consider benefits for existing employees,” said Laurence Msall, the Civic Federation’s president. “This is a very positive development as the state struggles, even after the tax increase, to find ways to fund the pensions.”
Madigan today stated that we need to chnage pension for current empolyees. He is another gift from the shithole known as Ireland. Is his pension going to be changed? I guess Rahm told that worshipper of the shamrock what he is going to do. Keep voting Irish.
of course the aclu is against the cameras, because they will show that the only thing the aclu is protecting is a bunch of shitbirds that should have been locked up a long time ago but managed to destroy/hide/consume the evidence needed to lock there asses up, the city needs more cameras especially in the east end of 24, and the south and west side.
OT: WLS talk radio host Sisco Cato says police and fire should work til 65 and be put in a 401k. He is using the air waves to push this idea. Let this little bitch chase a gang banging thug or rescue a child from a 3 story fire when he is 65. He said military pensions should also be changed what a punk.
(OT) keep the illegals coming here!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/janet-napolitano-warns-terror-threat-heightened-sept-11/story?id=12874207
(OT) I am a fireman, my brother is CPD Here is a true rahmbo story! i work westside truck #26,partner was resting in dayroom after a warehouse fire,in walks rahmbo asks "What the hell you doing sleeping at 1 in the afternoon," partner replies "was at a big fire and am spent"! Rahmbo says "This will stop when i am mayor you will be out acting as crossing guards to keep you busy and from sleeping"! True experience what a jagoof,here is a guy promising to take your pensions and this shit,you vote for this asshole you have no brains at all!
Note to the ACLU: No one cares, no ones watching the cameras..........
JFLED man up and remove police details from politicians
citizens of chicago need the police not aldercretures that are allowe3d to carry concealed
goota run
You know what protects the senior citizen? Cops on the streets.
The quote from SCC is what I, as a tax paying citizen want and it also makes me feel safer. If I am doing some wrong stuff and get caught by a camera, well, I am the dumb-ass. But for the 90, or 95 % of the citizens who are not breaking the law they should not give a damn about the cameras.
I am also for having a new tax for bagging bangers, you bag one, you get a piece of the same pie all of these crooked pieces of sh!t people who are our elected officials dine from. 1984 has come and gone, we are way past that.
As a civilian I say god bless you for your thankless job. I know, my old man was a cop and he said he saw more messed up stuff in the city than he did in Nam. Go figure.
I can't stand the ACLU, but in this case I for them. Do you really want to live under a totalitarian government where your every move is monitored, fuck that. I was born free and intend to die free. You may also want to consider, How much are these camera companies dropping $$$ for the privledge of surveilling the city. Some making money.
Cameras do not stop a punch in the face, a purse snatch, a drive by or any other dam crime...
POLICE OFFICERS WORKING THE STREETS HAVE THE ABILITY TO STOP THIS
Even more when there bosses back them up.
Hey Rahm, Did you see the new special employment initiative? I guess we are an employment agency.
As usual the quotes by Daley are insane. For one, cameras did not solve the Tucson shooting. It was brave citizens tackleing the offender. He also talks about walking from 22nd street to Halsted. Is he that stupid not to realize they intersect? The village of Bridgeport can have their idiot back.
here is the latest pension rumor. As of the day they change it you will recieve whats promised at that time. So if you have 10 years on the day it changes you can collect around 25% at a minimum age of 50 and so on. everything after that will be in either pepsco or a 401k. sorry it sucks but you and your relatives elected them.
Hmmmm intresting new computer program predicts where crime will occur. Watch and you 'll get the picture- http://www.hulu.com/watch/46093/adam-12-log-26-lemras?c=829:907
I've had my tires slashed in a shopping mall -- just someone's racial problem as far as I could tell -- in full view of two or three camera bubbles, with a mall security car parked twenty feet away with its lights flashing and the "security guard" sitting inside.
As another correspondent here puts it, "As long as idiots feel safe. Smoke and mirrors."
--2/09/2011 02:30:00 AM
He also says that "A lie detector machine only works if the subject fears/believes in it." Now, think a minute. What else is completely dependent on the maintenance of the "social contract?"
Glass windows.
The split-second the controls come loose, any primate with a rock will let himself right in. A "symbolic barrier" ain't worth much.
Saw one apartment landlord planting bushes in the courtyard; he said those were a "symbolic barrier."
"You're just giving them something to hide behind. Now it'll be twice as dangerous to walk in here at night," I told him.
Next -- cameras.
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Beyond spending zillions of post-9/11 Homeland Security grants and other taxpayer money on a camera system to point out to the IOC as "safety against terrorists" for the Olympics he didn't get, Mayor Daley never did have any really clear idea of what he wanted to see or do with all those cameras. He travels a lot, though, getting all kinds of funny ideas, and if they had cameras in Europe he had to have them here.
Another Daley legacy -- the most heavily-surveilled city in America, with homeless crackheads lounging in the pod rooms, observing the comings and goings of the decent citizens.
MAYOR DALEY IS CLINICALLY INSANE.
Don't worry ACLU, Rahm will fix everything when he gets in office for the city.
Just like his buddy, (B.O.), has done for The United States of America since he has been in office...
Thank you for calling us Servants, you POS Punk!!!!!!
Armed self defense? That does not exist in the City of Chicago and in the rest of the State of Illinois. Illinois bans the right of individuals to possession and carry firearms.
OT--
WBBM Radio reporting just now that State Farm Insurance is cutting off health care coverage for 29,000 retirees, reducing coverage for current employees, and telling new hires to buy their own insurance.
You're not safe anywhere today.
I wonder what their profits were last year.
Sing the jingle with me..."Like a good neighbor..."
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another communist loves u
Since Mayor Daley is busy "protecting the elderly" with his cameras, someone ask him if if the two police camera pods at State and Monroe got any pictures of the SUV/driver that "sustained heavy damage" in a hit-and-run mowing down two elderly women, both of whom are in Northwestern Memorial Hospital with multiple serious injuries.
...or will we see, once again, that for all these boxes and wires he has no control whatsoever even of the central, high-rent, core area of his city?
SAY SOMETHING, YOU LITTLE BASTARD!
...or are you going to dart under something like you did during the blizzard?
Forget all this nonsense, Lindsay Lohan is back in the news! I want box 1 Bitches
Podcams and gun control is for spying on and controlling law abiding citizens. Criminals don't give a flying F**K about cameras or about unarmed citizens.
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/clout_st/2011/02/alderman-asks-for-5-million-more-for-jesse-white-tumblers-gym.html
this explains his endorsement of the rahmbutt.
SCC, I said it before, and I speak as one with actual knowledge of the camera system; yes, the cameras solve NOTHING. However, they are the equivelant of the "who has the biggest johnson" schoolyard taunt anyone who ever had an issue with his manhood or what order he is in in the pecking order of the scheme of anything. EVERY MAJOR CITY IN THE CIVILIZED AND SEMI-CIVILIZED WORLD HAS A CAMERA SYSTEM IN SOME FORM OR ANOTHER. The mayors go back and forth around the world{Shortshanks} for God knows what purpose and brags about their surveillance system. The systems solve NOTHING. We know this. But as long as a handful of mayors and the ever faithful and competant Homeland Security keep insisting the cameras really do solve crime or secure our borders, the cameras ain't going nowhere. And thats a fact.
The aclu should be for pistols just think of how many lives would be saved.
What good are cameras if you have no one to send out to the call? Just stack it on the box and I may get there by the end of my tour. Maybe!
Fire Operators at OEMC no longer have the ability to view the POD's due to a few of them using them in an "improper" way. There was quite the big stink about it a year or so ago, and of course it got swept right under the rug
I love it. The Dems. have had union support for decades. Now, who is it that talks of reducing pension benefits to retired workers? Madigan and his Dem. cronies. By the time Madigan,Quinn,Rahm and the Dem. controlled state legislature are done. You won`t know what hit ya.
OT: Per today's Slum Times, I didn't read the article because it would make me ill if I did, but the heading says Madigan is open to lowering pensions.
Open, indicates to me it's a done deal.
He already did for the new hires
Call me a conspiracy theoriest but i cant understand why both shit newspapers would endorse Emanual? He offers concrete solutions for the city other than taking care of those who offer nothing to contribute to the city. Here's my conspiracy : they both endorse him because they know at some point soon he will be knee deep in shit with Blago, hence the selling of dying newspapers.
Anonymous said...
Armed self defense? That does not exist in the City of Chicago and in the rest of the State of Illinois. Illinois bans the right of individuals to possession and carry firearms.
2/09/2011 04:02:00 PM
Wrong, totally wrong!!
"Do you really want to live under a totalitarian government where your every move is monitored, fuck that. I was born free and intend to die free."
You do realize that this is the People's Republic of Chicago, don't you?
Your dream is not an option here.
"The mayors go back and forth around the world {Shortshanks} for God knows what purpose and brags about their surveillance system."
--2/09/2011 06:36:00 PM
Yeah, they get together here at "U.S. Conference Of Mayors" conventions and work up "gun control" agendas, and, as you say, they brag about their camera systems. They work up all manner of mischief.
They also do this on an international scale -- flying, eating, and sleeping first-class all the way -- declaring "Cleveland is a 'Sister City' of Lagos, Nigeria" and other meaningless nonsense, and getting expensive foreign ideas. That's why Chicago has stupid Parisian-style glass bus shelters.
There is a whole body of fascinating Jewish law about privacy -- the discussions run along the lines of "A man has a courtyard. A neighbor decides to install a window in his adjoining house, which provides a view into the first man's courtyard. Is this right? Can the first man demand that his neighbor block up the window?"
The upshot of it is that it's weird, unnatural, and sinful for people to be watching other people, everywhere, all the time; that the loss of privacy is an actionable tort.
Isn't the government out of line when it declares what "expectations" I shall have regarding my privacy? It is a very new thing for a person to not be able to blow their nose on the street without being seen and recorded by invisible beings tens of miles away.
The priority is now that technology (in the hands of the state) comes first, and tens of thousands of years of the evolution of human behavior and thinking comes second.
People don't evolve like smart phones, a new model every week. They are being driven insane by this -- this, and a thousand other intrusions.
Loop hit-run spurs police community alert
Boy, I bet it did. Someone had f___ing-A better make it look like something's going on after that speech Daley just made about how his cameras protect seniors.
"Chicago police today sought the public's help in finding an SUV involved in a hit-and-run accident Tuesday that injured two women in the Loop.
"A community alert said police are looking for a silver Mitsubishi Montero Sport 4-door SUV. According to police, the SUV had an Illinois license plate tag number, X765013.
"The women were crossing State Street near Monroe Street at about 7:15 p.m. Tuesday when they were struck, the alert said. After striking the women, the SUV fled south on State Street from Monroe Street.
"Police News Affairs officers could not provide updated information about the health status of the women, who had been in critical condition when taken to the hospital.
"Investigators are asking anyone with information to call the major accidents division at 312-745-4521."
http://www.chicagotribune.com
/news/local/breaking/
chibrknews-loop-hitrun
-spurs-police-community
-alert-20110209,0,5525070.
story
Here you are, elderly ladies being mown down two-by-two in the heart of Daleyland, 001 District, right at the corner of State and Monroe under two-- count 'em, two - police cameras.
TV news reports said that there were a lot of bystanders on the scene who tried to get the driver to stop, and who assisted the injured ladies.
Unless I hear otherwise, I'm assuming that the vehicle description and license number came from the canvass of those bystanders.
Not one of those people glimpsed the driver, huh? Once you know that the Tribune and other news outlets have rules against providing physical descriptions of anyone but white offenders, I can only conclude "Yeah, right" until I hear otherwise.
Let's hear it! If this was an official Pod Success, Mayor Daley would be crowing from the balcony -- "See, you see, I told you cameras, cameras, gotta protect the seniors, I just told you, heh heh told you, tell you and tell you, some of you people, people, you don't listen. No."
I'm not holding my breath. My money's on the bystander who was cool enough and quick enough to write the license number on his hand or sleeve or newspaper, and on other helpful citizens who were able to give color, make, model -- the old-fashioned way.
On a happy note:
Lura Lynn was released from the hospital last week and is suddenly doing fine. She must have gone to Lourdes.
I never believed that PODS cameras ever had anything to do with effective policing and/or crime control. It was and is about issuing contracts.
As anyone that has ever had to recover and review video from them knows that due to the random sweeping of the camera, catching a criminal activity on them is almost impossible. And the quality of the video, especially at night, is a joke. But still a Detective has to waste a few hours going through the video.
Do the people monitoring them even pay attention? Saw in the paper about a security office at a south suburban college. One person in the security office "monitoring" 238 cameras!!
Yeah, right.
Im not a lawyer BUT I believe that when one is on the public way, or in a public venue like a ball game or a hockey game or grocery store he has no reasonable expectation of privacy
....the cameras ain't going nowhere. And thats a fact.
2/09/2011 06:36:00 PM
everybody wants to be a SUPERSTAR.
Armed self defense? That does not exist in the City of Chicago and in the rest of the State of Illinois. Illinois bans the right of individuals to possession and carry firearms.
2/09/2011 04:02:00 PM
sure it does.
mums the word.
Chalkie
The village of Bridgeport can have their idiot back.
2/09/2011 02:04:00 PM
we don' wan' 'im, you can have 'im
he's too dumb for us
he's too dumb for us
he's too dumb for us
we don' wan' 'im, you can have 'im
he's too dumb for us
he's too dumb, he's too dumb
he's too dumb for us!
Anonymous said...
(OT) I am a fireman, my brother is CPD Here is a true rahmbo story! i work westside truck #26,partner was resting in dayroom after a warehouse fire,in walks rahmbo asks "What the hell you doing sleeping at 1 in the afternoon," partner replies "was at a big fire and am spent"! Rahmbo says "This will stop when i am mayor you will be out acting as crossing guards to keep you busy and from sleeping"! True experience what a jagoof,here is a guy promising to take your pensions and this shit,you vote for this asshole you have no brains at all!
2/09/2011 11:52:00 AM
I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. Nice try though. I'm voting for him, so I guess I just got lucky at the University of Chicago.
Anonymous said...
Armed self defense? That does not exist in the City of Chicago and in the rest of the State of Illinois. Illinois bans the right of individuals to possession and carry firearms.
2/09/2011 04:02:00 PM
Sure it does,its called the Second Amendment to the Bill of Rights.It trumps Illegal Illinois law.I have carried a handgun for over 30 years and will continue to do so.The Second Amendment is my carry permit.
Anonymous said...
Unless someone can invent an infared camera that fires bullets at an offender committing a crime then they are useless.Hey wait a minute...if I only had a connection to City Hall..
2/09/2011 08:12:00 AM
They wont go for it.No killing their voter base.
Listened to Roe and Roeper yesterday. They actually think that the police cameras on street poles can differentiate whether or not someone is selling rocks, blows or cigarettes. LOL! They think the gunshot detectors actually work. LOL x 2! They have no clue just how useless the cameras are and how low quality the picture is from the camera. The software is slow and cumbersome. It's apparent they believe the smoke being blown up their rear ends by the city and Jfled!
How about understanding WHY the cameras were put on the poles? To protect citizens? Hardly. File a FOIA to see WHO the connected company is that purchased and installed the equipment. The media is this city are like mushrooms. Keep them in the dark and feed them shit. I think they actually like it!
fuck the ACLU and every word the communists ever muttered
"OT: WLS talk radio host Sisco Cato says police and fire should work til 65 and be put in a 401k."
I believe his name is Cisco Cotto.
I'm gonna call bullshit on this one. Nice try though. I'm voting for him, so I guess I just got lucky at the University of Chicago.
2/10/2011 01:06:00 AM
you mean your ass just got lucky.
how special for you.
"I'm voting for him {Emanuel}, so I guess I just got lucky at the University of Chicago."
--2/10/2011 01:06:00 AM
...whatever the hell that means.
I really do not have any knowledge of the CPD cameras and have never seen the images. I retired before they were being put up. But, I have installed and used in investigations, cameras in private industry. It depends on the quality of the camera. Cameras do not reduce crime, and any security expert will tell you the same thing. But, what they do and do very well, if it is a good camera and a good hard drive, is give the investigators information to solve cases. We cleared up a lot of internal crime that previously we did not have a clue of who was involved. So, a lot depends on the quality of the hardware, how it is installed and the ease of use by the investigators.And, a lot depends on where the cameras are placed. You just cannot cover the entire city with cameras.Do not dismiss the technique, question how the city is using this and the quality of the hardware. Snd, in this town, who has the contract. It pays very well. Paying someone to watch the monitors is a waste of time.
Did the Mayor have the decency to take five minutes and visit those two elderly hit-and-run victims in the hospital, maybe taking the Police Superintendent along? I mean, it happened right in the heart of the Loop, right after he made a big speech about "protecting senior citizens with cameras."
Hell, no. Why waste your time when there's nothing in it for you? People would just ask embarassing questions about whether the homeless were watching the cameras again, or about whether the lousy things even worked at all at zero degrees.
Both of these characters know they're on their way out -- why even pretend to act human?
1) rahmbo did visit a firehouse or two, don't know what was said;
2) anybody with an ounce of sense knows the cameras are useless; when is SOMEBODY going to stand up and say it?
3) maybe Cisco Cotto should work until he is 85 (make it 90?) years old, with a 401K....welcome to the real world....
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
(OT) I am a fireman, my brother is CPD Here is a true rahmbo story! i work westside truck #26,partner was resting in dayroom after a warehouse fire,in walks rahmbo asks "What the hell you doing sleeping at 1 in the afternoon," partner replies "was at a big fire and am spent"! Rahmbo says "This will stop when i am mayor you will be out acting as crossing guards to keep you busy and from sleeping"! True experience what a jagoof,here is a guy promising to take your pensions and this shit,you vote for this asshole you have no brains at all!
2/09/2011 11:52:00 AM
I too have to call bullshit on this. Whatever Rahm is, he is not a fool, and a statement like this to firemen would be the epitome of foolishness.
Cameras might have a place, but they are not the panacea that the public has been led to believe that they are. I suspec that their best use would be as corroboration after a suspect has been identified. Their use as a device in private firms for security purposes is an entirely different matter simply because that deals with a known body of people, making identification of an individual much simpler.
I too have to call bullshit on this. Whatever Rahm is, he is not a fool, and a statement like this to firemen would be the epitome of foolishness.
2/11/2011 11:04:00 AM
arrogance is foolish.
OK, since there is total silence on this story, I'm assuming that the cameras "to protect the senior citizens" at State and Monroe caught nothing when the two elderly women were mowed down in a hit-and-run.
This happened the day after the Mayor made that big speech, right smack dab in the middle of downtown; you know his flacks wouldn't have missed the chance to blow their horns about the wonderful cameras if they had anything.
Thanks, observant citizens, for the license plate number, color, make, and model.
Thus will the Mayor stop Al Quaida in its tracks...
You are only partially correct when you say security cameras used in private security are different and only work with known people. I used them while working for three combined corporations with over 8 thousand employees and thousands of visitors and contractors daily. We had great success with them during investigations and did identify people , by name, who were not employees, who were committing crimes on the property. It takes work, but it can be done. Do not sell something short of which you know nothing about.
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