Thursday, March 31, 2011

Here Comes a Storm

  • The Chicago Police Department is investigating allegations of sexual assault involving two North Side officers, police said Wednesday night.

    A 22-year-old woman was walking along Broadway near Granville Avenue in the Rogers Park Police District shortly after midnight Wednesday when two uniformed officers from the Town Hall District in a police SUV offered her a ride home, a police source told WGN-TV. The source said the woman got in the vehicle and was driven to her apartment.

    The woman reported the officers followed her inside to her first-floor apartment and sexually assaulted her. The source said the officers left behind parts of their uniform and a cellphone.

    The investigation was initiated after the department was notified of the allegations Wednesday, police said in a statement.

    There was no immediate explanation why the officers were outside their assigned district at the time of the alleged incident.

    The two accused officers have been relieved of their police powers pending an investigation.
What a clusterfuck this one is going to be.

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313 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

another two idiots...cant we leave anything

3/31/2011 05:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These same two officers have been accused twice in the past by two separate women of the exact same thing. In those cases, the victims each reported the incident but later refused to follow through with the investigation. This one is different, in that the victim absolutely wishes to prosecute.

This one unfortunately appears to be true. If so, these two animals need to be locked up for a very long time.

- A Supervisor Who Knows

3/31/2011 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe it's true. No one can be that stupid. But if they are that stupid then they get everything that is coming to them.

3/31/2011 05:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh oh. If they indeed do this, and indeed left evidence behind, uh oh. And if they did do this, they don't belong on this job, they belong in prison.

Hopefully this isn't true.

Please, no rush to judgement.

3/31/2011 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it hard to believe, unless these officers are galactically stupid.

GPS?

The sad thing is if they're innocent, you can't unring a bell.

3/31/2011 06:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's it!!!!! The patrol division is out of control! We must immediately disband patrol, and allow all patrol officers super bids to various units! Oh wait, only units get scrapped for a few bad apples.......carry on.

3/31/2011 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If true: Whether this was consensual or rape these are some sick minded, dumb cops that deserve everything coming to them

3/31/2011 06:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m not buying that she was raped. They were obviously in her apt at some point because the uniform and phone was left behind. What is going to be important is if she was drunk or had been drinking and what was said to the outcry witness.

Didn’t these dumbfucks learn from Sgt. Herman? Yes he was acquitted of rape, but he has no job or pension. Shit, the way things are going, I probably wont have a pension either. Meow mix here I come.

3/31/2011 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This could be the worst thing that has hit the department in 20 years. What a couple of fools!

3/31/2011 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous TTR said...

Lets just hope this was consensual and the woman is now trying to get the ghetto lottery money. Any way you look at it, it sure smells like an old pickle on the floor at a glory hole.

3/31/2011 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when the truth comes out it aint gonne be pretty this will make the Abate thing look like childs play very bad, very embarassing and most of all very stupid JAGOFFS!!!

3/31/2011 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More scandal. Let's hope there's no video. If it's true, G-d help the officers ' family and the victim.

3/31/2011 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a link to this case following Kass's column.


March 21, 2011

NEW YORK (WPIX)— Two New York City police officers charged with raping a drunk, semiconscious woman they were called to help are now facing additional charges.

The trial of officers Kenneth Moreno and Franklin Mata was postponed Monday after prosecutors announced that a new video showed the pair paying four visits to the victim that night.

Prosecutors initially alleged that Morena and Mata visited the apartment twice.

Moreno and Mata already faced charges including rape. They pleaded not guilty Monday to additional burglary, official misconduct and other counts.


Moreno is accused of raping the woman while Mata acted as a lookout in December 2008. They deny the allegations. Jury selection for their trial is expected to start next week.

Their lawyers say the new allegation of a fourth visit to the woman's apartment should fuel doubt about authorities' account of the events.

3/31/2011 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow...if this unfortunate situation is true, what a fucked up decision these guys made. Bad light on us again....this fucking sucks.

3/31/2011 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More hatred towards police now....

3/31/2011 07:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone knows that this is nonsense, if they end being guilty of anything it will be stupidity. GPS will tell the tale and MAY actually save their ass this time. It won't stop Horowitz, Shiller, Loevy etc. from trying to profit off this though..

Guys keep it in your pants until you are off work please; if not, you're nothing but a target and potential meal ticket for someone, regardless of how innocent they or the whole situation seem.

3/31/2011 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me see....She was drunk and I am sure it was consensual.....If thats the case really bad decision

3/31/2011 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I always wondered how two sex offenders find each other. Now, I'm supposed to believe...two people without priors, decide it would be fun to put their careers and families on the line for....something ain't right with that picture.

3/31/2011 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can I be the first to call BULLSHIT !!!!

3/31/2011 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well since there is no one named Vanecko involved in this apparently, hopefully there will be a real investigation and something resembling the truth will come out.

Initally, this doesn't smell right to me, but let the investigation go forward.

The NYPD recently had two cops on trial for whatever the New York State equivalent is of "sexual assault".

3/31/2011 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/03/28/2011-03-28_jury_selection_to_start_in_case_of_nypd_cops_accused_of_raping_drunken_manhattan.html

Well at least we're not the only department with similar allegations.

Small comfort that is.

3/31/2011 08:11:00 AM  
Blogger Michael said...

lead story on morning news, even before libya and japan follow ups--- this is not just about these two officers who are on the hot plate-- this is about the whole department and the trust the community places in us---

3/31/2011 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2 arrogant (for no reason whatsoever) dickheads.

3/31/2011 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT-Hey SCC. Not all residents of this city hate the police. Now WBEZ is back-tracking from their stupid guesstimation of what the two cops where doing with the kid in the backseat.

WBEZ NEWS now says.........
"Residents defend cops shown on videoTwo Chicago cops shown on video with a young man in the backseat of their SUV are getting support from some Northwest Side residents. In the video, recorded March 19 in Humboldt Park, the officers...more"

Seems these two police officers are very active in the caps program and the residents are appalled at the treatment they have recieved thus far.They have circulated a petition. WBEZ JUMPED THE GUN AND NOW THEY FEEL STUPID and are trying to make it right.

3/31/2011 08:26:00 AM  
Blogger Working Man said...

I really hope there's another side to this story. Of course we only hear the one side, but if there's any bit of truth to this, we're for a shit storm. Let's wait for the whole story to come out, but WHY put yourselves in this position in the first place?? With cameras and gps, I could see assisting her home and then ask for her phone number if there's any interest and follow up at another time. When you're OFF DUTY!

3/31/2011 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully she's lying, but either way, I'm taking the Robert DeNiro point of view: "Listen, if you didn't know you're bein' scammed, you're too fuckin' dumb to keep this job."

3/31/2011 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i hope its not true

3/31/2011 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The victim may not be that credible, but there are other witnesses that are. GPS, street cameras and breathalyzer will prove all.However you put it, they are fucked.

3/31/2011 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF?????

3/31/2011 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hmmm... something just doesn't sound right here.

It'll be interesting to see what the whole story is.

3/31/2011 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read the Illinois Appellate Court case of Sgt. John Herman. It really illustrates the incredible unreliability of some complainants.

3/31/2011 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I smell a rat....something doesn't quite sound right on this one....

3/31/2011 09:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF !!!!!

3/31/2011 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone with half a brain can figure out what really happened here.

3/31/2011 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dumb and dumber. If they were involved in any way of this allegation, I have no pity. This just smears the CPD again, ala Abbatte and all the other numbskulls who think they can get away with sh#t. As soon as one scandal dies down, another pops up and it's a feeding frenzy for the media. I guess this will put the iphone killer on the backburner for the media and everyone will hate the police again.

3/31/2011 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a question for the Officers, how does the FOP go about making their decisions on endorsements for candidates for public office?

The reason I am asking is because in the 46th Ward Uptown Chicago, the FOP has endorsed Molly Phelan who is working hand in hand with the same people that look for every opportunity to harass, embarrass and level unfounded charges at the officers we rely on tomprotect us. She is currently working hand in hand on her campaign with Marc Kaplan, Ron Durham, Spencer Thayer et al. Otherwise known in the neighborhood as COPWATCH.

Did the FOP rush to judgement and make a mistake or are they working against the rank and file Police in Chicago?

3/31/2011 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you fool around while on duty, you are setting yourself up for something bad. I have seen this time and time again during the 35 years I spent on the department. Officers who met someone and went to their house for lunchtime meetings ended up getting fired ( the excuse that I was on my lunchtime and i can do what i want does not work).Many of these " victims" end up accusing the officer of assault. Just look at John Herman, sent to prison after a rape complaint from a sex partner that he met during work. I just do not believe that two on-duty police officers would rape anyone. I just donot believe this. But, putting that issue aside, it seems that they probably did have some contact with this women that they should have avoided. If they did, if they did take her home not on official business and if they did have any sexual contact with her, their jobs are gone and rightfully so. They will be lucky they are not prosecuted for this. If you must, take a phone number and establish contact the normal way. DO NOT go to the girls house under any circumstances while you are working. Unless you are stupid.

3/31/2011 09:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Real smart... And to all those asshats out there who will say..."they just made a mistake" save it.. Sure they made a mistake.. Its called 30 pending! When the fuck are you people going to learn?? DUI's, selling dope, robbing people, rape, WTF!! Heres a newsflash.. You people are POLICE OFFICERS who are held to a higher standard than joe public.. Did you learn that in the academy? Also along with misconduct such as this... Not only will you lose your job, THEY WILL PROSECUTE YOU!! Wake the fuck up people. In almost 18 years on this job... I have not taken a single day of suspension time. No matter how much you hate/complain about this job, the politics, your bosses..this job is for real..and they will lock your ass up FOR REAL! I have no remorse for coppers who do stupid shit like this

3/31/2011 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF!

3/31/2011 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a lot more to the story if you read the case report. Hope these guys didn't let the little head do the thinking for the big head. If not, I'm sure they will take some days for department infractions and the magnitude of shit that was created from these allegations. IAD came to p/u vehicle for trace eveidence and hopefully GPS will bend it in their favor. Just like the SGT. that was found guilty for the alledged consensual sex acts performed while on-duty w/the crack whore. That guy served time and ultimately blew his job. (No pun intended!) This will not be good for either officer from the 023rd district. This is a huge brick/monkey to shake off either officer's career history. Good luck brothers with the pending outcome.

3/31/2011 09:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where was the supervision..hey commanders give the supervisors their balls back..and then back them up...

3/31/2011 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess the Sgt. that straight up raped a woman while on duty and had her paid off to drop charges is not big news any more since mommy was a big shot on the Department back in the day and still heavily connected politically... nor the fact that he kept his job!!!

Lets see what happens to these two coppers compared to the anointed Sgt. I am guessing that these two morons exercised extremely POOR judgment at the very least and the girl had next morning regrets but just wondering why this story is going to receive so much more publicity than the story of the rapist Sgt.
Did he even get stripped? Oh well, what does it matter anyway. Every time I think this Department has hit rock bottom I realize we are still just scratching at the surface!

3/31/2011 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have noted that the Tribune has not enabled the comment section on this issue. Maybe they do read the SCC blog to see how one sided they have been in the past.

3/31/2011 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good job, idiots!
Ruin your career (im sure this isnt your first major deviation from the rules)

Ruin your marriages (but you have been cheating on your wife for years havent you?)

Ruin your image as a father and role model for your kids (oh wait, you have been cheating on their mother for years!)

Tarnish an image for the rest of the good officers on this department who always have to weather the storms brought on by your selfishness and complete disrespect for the badge we wear.

I know there will be people who say "innocent until proven guilty" but even if it was consentual and even if she encouraged this; having sex in a squad car then leaving the district while on duty in uniform in a marked squad car to go play strip poker and have sex with a drunk female at 0300 in the morning at her apartment??? I hope you get exactly what is coming to you! I have no sympathy for our "brothers in blue" who continue to embarrass us.

We get so mad at the media for painting us in a bad light....they really dont have to, we do it to ourselves!

Guess this story will bump the Finnegan news off the front page.

Good job, assholes!

3/31/2011 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous TIK said...

Even if you think its going to be consensual, keep our dick in your pants while at work.

3/31/2011 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know we shouldn't rush to judgment and all, but regardless of the outcome, from what's being reported so far these two seriously F'd up and do not deserve any defending no matter what their past great deeds. These type of things keep making us look like total jag offs and has to stop!

3/31/2011 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe this shit! I bet J-Fed is laughing his ass off saying "I told you so!

3/31/2011 10:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not jump to any conclusions yet folks. After all, how many of us have been sued or gotten CRs and gone "WTF?" when we've learned of the allegations because they are so outrageously false?

If this story is true, which I hope to God it isn't, then the officers involved will be punished accordingly. If it's a bunch of bs then we can all move on without having put the officers through any more hell than what's already happening.

I'm just sayin....

3/31/2011 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More to the story, don't get crazy.

3/31/2011 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous LT. Pat Schmear said...

Not good.....

3/31/2011 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous 5 & none & done said...

Can't hide from your GPS. Regardless of who says what and the actual "truth" to this career ending, possible prison spending act of complete stupidity, those two are fucked and we as a department look like assholes yet once again. How fucking stupid can you be? Neither had the sense to tell the other this was a real bad idea. Perfect partners.

3/31/2011 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mmmmm . . . . . there is a term for that . . . . .

3/31/2011 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Total Bullshit.

3/31/2011 10:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm going to call massive BULLSHIT on this "victim's" story. From the suntimes:

The woman told police that during the ride, she had sex with one of the officers in a passenger seat of the SUV and that she did not say “no,” according to the report.

When they arrived at her apartment in the 1300 block of West Greenleaf Avenue, all three went inside, where they played strip poker, and she had sex with one officer in her bed. But she began banging on her wall with her hands hoping to catch her neighbors’ attention, saying she felt intimidated by the offices and was afraid to say “no” to their sexual advances, the report said.

You play STRIP POKER and then you feel threatened?????

BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT
BULLSHIT

3/31/2011 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Former 023 po now wanted for a armed robbery according to the news

3/31/2011 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2nd such incident with these two morons.

3/31/2011 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its all jfleds fault

3/31/2011 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow,that lengthy academy really produces a high quality product.

3/31/2011 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ABC News said the woman alleges that she was sexually assaulted IN THE PASSENGER SEAT of the SUV and that in the apartment they PLAYED STRIP POKER. This woman is either a deceptive, cunning, bitch or a raving mental. The allegations are so far out there is no way they are true. Doesn't matter though, the officers have already been convicted in the media.

3/31/2011 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately , many could have predicted these two doing something so stupid.

3/31/2011 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous ISP Sgt said...

Not good, if true. But the items shown on the news don't make it seem false.

3/31/2011 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a surprise why??

3/31/2011 11:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How could they have done such a thing under the guidance of the micromanaging "female" Lt on mids??

3/31/2011 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...and so Weis is pulling out his fiddle, smiling and beginning to play it as the Chicago Police Department burns.

His ego is so big he will think that this would not have happened if only he got his contract extended.

Lastly, is anyone else sick of how the media said he resigned? He did not resign. His contact was up and not renewed. The HR order stated at the conclusion of the business day, which meant he completed his obligation. He did not resign, he was forced out. Big difference.

3/31/2011 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Wm. Randolph Hearst said...

Maybe they'll luck out and the " file " will get lost like Vanecko's.
But reality tells me this will be investigated by every agency on the planet & will be bigger than the Lindberg kidnapping via the Chicago MSM.

3/31/2011 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't everyone jump the gun on this yet. Let's wait for the facts to come out first and not believe everything the left wing media is telling us. What a coincidence that a story like this pops out of thin air to distract the attention away from the real criminals, ie. Vanecko & Daly crime family inc.

3/31/2011 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope this is an eye-opener to all the dumb fuck GQ hair jell police who always want to drive by the clubs to get a glimpse at these women. Nothing good could ever come out of getting a number from a drunk. However, the worst that can happen is this. I'm not putting all the blame on the p.o.'s just yet because only the people involved know the truth. They probably were invited up who knows..... but this reminds me of the Mike Tyson mess

3/31/2011 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say it ain't so. I hope this doesn't hold true. Officers please Be smart out there. The media is hungry for a story. Can we please stop giving them one! Outside the district too? What about calling out the mileage prior to transporting? Its meant to protect all parties involved in a transport such as this.

This is the second story I've heard in a week where officers were stripped of their powers. We're trying to rebuild public confidence not destroy it any further. C'mon already!

3/31/2011 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

look for terry to get a few more gray hairs and bigger forehead

supts job nothin but stress

gotta run guess who

3/31/2011 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read the case report and barring a miracle, this does not look good at all for the department, let alone the idiot officers involved. The victim(unless crazy) has no background, and neither do the witnesses. And the story is pretty detailed. Ugh! As if we, as officers, didn't have a bad rap already. I will wait to hold judgement until the investigation is done but even if this involves some nut-bag with a get-rich-quick scheme who set them up, what were these idiots doing out of their district anyway? The media is loving this.

3/31/2011 12:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time and mileage.

3/31/2011 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger Ray said...

Shit. Shit, shit, shit, shit.

3/31/2011 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For God sake, when are people going to learn. Without a whiteshirt or phonecall these guys are done, even if a consensual encounter. You cant wait until your tour is over???

3/31/2011 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

expect something in the CO book soon..no escorts or rides given to non CPD members.relocating domestics too. bottom line...think with your brain not with your...

3/31/2011 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really?!? I mean come on already! Its assholes like this that make our jobs that much harder!

If you really have to pick up extremely drunk women to have sex with, do me a favor and do it on YOUR OWN TIME! Not while you're on duty and wearing the uniform that I am proud to have earned the right to don every day.

Thanks for putting is into the negative spotlight yet once again!

3/31/2011 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, they finally updated the story to say that this gal had consensual sex with one officer in the Tahoe and then played strip poker with both of them back at her apartment. So, after she started having sex with the second officer she either came to her senses and/or possibly started to see dollar $ign$ appearing before her eyes. Either way, the coppers are pretty stupid for letting themselves get into the situation in the first place. The outcome will probably be the officers losing their jobs and getting probation for Official Misconduct and the young woman gets a substantial payout from the city. Personally, I wouldn't even ask a woman for her phone number while I was on duty (if I was single, that is) because even that can be considered harassment in this politically correct world we now live in. These coppers were just plain dumb for thinking with the little head instead of the big one.

3/31/2011 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is true, what a travesty. This is fair warning to all those, especially p/o's, that use the debauchery of a weekend or wrigleyville, as their very own eharmony or match.com. How many calls and reports have been taken regarding the overserved women, that become victims of unspeakable acts. Gentlemen, these women are blacked out drunk, you morons! Our ranks are the ones that try to keep the fine line between safety and savagery intact. We are suppose to be the protectors of our wives, daughters, sisters, and partners. Hope what you thought was another piece of ass was worth your dignity, trustworthyness, families, wives, career,and the trust she had in what cpd represented. If what is alledged is true, God help the girl and the rest of the cpd that works everyday to keep the savagery from crossing the line.

3/31/2011 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This isn't the first time for these two POs. There was a previous incident that was very similar in nature. On the last case the alledged victim refused to cooperate so the POs got off. Didn't you guys learn anything from the first incident? What a disgrace. How could you do this to your families?

3/31/2011 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Come on guys! Think about what you are doing. It probably started off as a consensual act and then she started to think, how can I make this work for me. Now these officers have to go through the switches.

3/31/2011 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC I work in 023. You can only imagine the shit storm that this will become if ALL the facts come out. EB and Dep BR as well as Cmdr KB have been addressing all the roll calls. This thing may make Abbate look good.

3/31/2011 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Allegations like this happened several years ago against some uniformed guys from 018. Turned out the victim made the whole thing up and was eventually charged with felony disorderly conduct and filing a false police report. We can only hope that the evidence shows that this is a fabricated story. Only time will tell.

3/31/2011 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a clusterfuck this one is going to be.





no pun intended.

3/31/2011 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you gotta be kidding me.are we ever going to get out of the hole........

3/31/2011 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whether the allegations prove to be true or not, it again raises the fascinating riddle of dyad relationships.

One person, by themselves, probably wouldn't carry out a criminal act. A couple of good examples would be Hickock and Smith with the Clutter family murder.

An even better example, more suited for the internet age, was the case of the two guys who lured a young Freshman girl from Streamwood into their car, took her to one of their homes, and raped and killed her.

The interesting pathology there was that one of the men who committed the crime had arrived less than 48 hours earlier from California, where he met up with his internet pen pal, who he'd been communicating with in chat rooms online for over a year.

It took the two of them together to commit the act. Remove one, and in many instances the crimes that they committed wouldn't have gone down.

3/31/2011 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know what happened here, but there are a bunch of strange things here. I am definitely withholding judgment until this is settled.

Not a cop

3/31/2011 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bye Bye Terry your days as SUPT are numbered! Shades of Cline

3/31/2011 01:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

60 hours collage degree pleeez

3/31/2011 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we all know there is much more to this story. either way, shame on the coppers. they obviously were thinking with the little guy. what a coincidence though that scandal rocks the cpd right after j-fled is bounced.

3/31/2011 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my god... can you just switch back to beatings please.... i'd rather have my ass kicked for no reason than get raped.

3/31/2011 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, you have to be kidding me!

3/31/2011 02:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord help us ! They should have know better. More ammunition to use against the department. It takes a long time to earn a good reputation only to have it tarnished in an instant by two fools who could'nt wait till they were off duty.

3/31/2011 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow. Sounds like a setup. If you're gonna pick up chicks on this job, get their number and meet them AFTER work!

3/31/2011 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And just like Abbate, this jagoff should have been launched a long time ago....will Latino revrunds be crying foul on his behalf? And How the hell does his supervisor not check in the fact that he was out of district for so long? Thanks for the departmental black eye, prick....do us a favor and off yourself before you do anymore damage! And don't even get me started on his partner....you knew it was wrong, so what's your excuse? Fucking retards!

3/31/2011 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If true , very very dumb officers.

3/31/2011 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off-Topic but true!
The "Henny Penny" story is true. She's got herself all set up in a big office on the 5th Floor at HQ, and even that big office isn't large enough for her ego.

She has no duties, but that won't stop her from throwing her "weight" around.

ATTENTION SUPT. HILLARD! You are short watch commanders all over the city, and guess what? SHE'S A WATCH COMMANDER who's being hidden at HQ!

3/31/2011 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope to God these allegations are not true. We're finally getting past the Abbatte scandal, and now this. It makes me ashamed to say I belong to this organization.

3/31/2011 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RWOC today

3/31/2011 03:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh boy - we can't catch a break! WTF...

3/31/2011 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just read the updated account on the link. She had what appears to be consensual sex with one in a police vehicle. She engages in a game of strip poker with both in her apartment and then has a second sexual encounter in her apartment. The article references her being drunk and distraught over a fight with a male "friend." I'm inferring that she sobered up and realized what she was partaking in and decided to play the victim in order to relieve herself of guilt associated with promiscuity. She wouldn't be the first one to do it. That in no way excuses the 2 police officers here. They should be held accountable and thrown off the job.

The only case here is Official Misconduct in my opinion. These 2 will lose their jobs, and they should. But, there probably isn't a prison stay in their future. Can you imagine what a cut throat defense attorney is going to be able to convey to the judge/jury about this girl on cross examination? I'm sure the police haters will scream bloody murder here, but from what I read already there is absolutely reasonable doubt.

I absolutely DO NOT condone what these 2 clowns did on duty. It's abhorring and disgusting, but it's not a CSA. I've had cases denied by felony review for CSA with a minor having sex with an adult because the sex was consensual and the minors parent knew about it. If this were a "non" police involved case it would be RWOC and not be newsworthy.

In almost 20 years on the job I always made it a point to NEVER accept a phone number or give mine out to an interested female while on duty. The girl can always come back at a later time, perhaps after you don't want to be with her, and say you used your police authority to coerce her into a relationship and/or sex. In fact being the police makes you a target.

The 3 B's...Booze, Broads, and Bread will land you straight in the penitentiary. Wake the fuck up assholes. Anyone have any fucking common sense anymore? Again I'm ashamed to wear the uniform and admit I'm a Chicago Police Officer.

3/31/2011 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Un-fucking-believeable

3/31/2011 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous ex 023 SERGEANT said...

AT Approximately 10 minutes after the time of the alleged occurrence, their sergeant
BEAT 2310 was looking for the accused officers.

He became agitated when they did not answer the radio and demanded that the jack-asses be "red-lined".

HOWEVER, the softball Watch Commander said to “let it go”.

NOW, as of 3:00pm on 31 March,
the media relates someone in the department is demanding that the SERGEANT be hung for “not doing his job.”


I said before:
WE CAN NOT BABYSIT 40 year old MEN and WOMEN.
We log up to 25 coppers a shift at least twice.
You cannot know where every “idiot” is during an 8 ½ hour tour.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE unless you have a GPS screen in front of your face all night.

EVERYONE is responsible for their own actions.
You fuck up, you go to jail.


I hope these 2 scumbags like the food in the penitentiary.

3/31/2011 03:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are on tape????? Didn't a Sht get away with the same thing in 19 about 5 years ago his mother was some exempt White shirt????

Where is he at - I heard the city paid her off. Clout

3/31/2011 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m not buying that she was raped. They were obviously in her apt at some point because the uniform and phone was left behind.



Really! your a fool- Just like a little girl who is raped if she is 11 its ok because she wanted it.

Are you nuts- ITS CALLED POLICE POWERS- HELLO ITS RAPE RAPE RAPE-- I sure hope your not the police because you need training.

3/31/2011 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The timing of these last two incidents involving police really sucks. The PO's in 14 and now this? WTF As soon J-Fled is gone this shit starts happening?

3/31/2011 03:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the hell is going on at 023?!? If it's true, consensual or not, this is just plain sad.

3/31/2011 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: Lets just hope this was consensual and the woman is now trying to get the ghetto lottery money. Any way you look at it, it sure smells like an old pickle on the floor at a glory hole.

It doesn't matter if it was consensual or not. These 2 so called officers were on duty, in a marked SUV, supposed to be serving the public, not servicing one of the public. If, they did this they need to be fired and put in prison. If not, they should get a public apology from all the news media reporting the story.

3/31/2011 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Broadway and Granville?" Here's what I got when I clicked on your link. They sure changed the story.

"A 22-year-old woman has told investigators she was walking near Addison Street and Sheffield Avenue early Wednesday morning, crying and upset after drinking and arguing with a male friend and leaving his home. The two officers — both 10-year veterans -- drove up in a marked police Chevrolet Tahoe SUV and offered her a ride home, according to a police report.

"On the way to her apartment in the Rogers Park neighborhood, she had sex with one of the officers in a passenger seat, she told police.

"When they arrived at her building, the three of them went inside her first-floor apartment, where they played strip poker, she told police, according to the report.

"She said she had sex with one of the officers but began to feel intimidated by the officers and was afraid to refuse their sexual advances, according to the report. She said she pounded on the wall to get her neighbor’s attention.

"She then got up and ran screaming out of the apartment..."

This is the basic story line of a thousand 4 AM blackout classics.

Just because she's naked and swinging upside down from the chandelier guzzling from a plastic 1.75 of Dmitri doesn't mean a girl can't say "No."

"When the other neighbor finally heard the commotion and opened the door, he told police he saw a naked man running down the hallway and another man in a Chicago police uniform walking away, according to the police report. Contacted by the Tribune, the man confirmed he had seen a naked man running down the hall but said he wasn’t sure if the other man was wearing a uniform."

Wait and see how much more this story changes around. The Department will still be here in the morning.

I can't get too excited here. There is an awful lot worse stuff than this that's been frantically covered over.

3/31/2011 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets just hope this was consensual and the woman is now trying to get the ghetto lottery money. Any way you look at it, it sure smells like an old pickle on the floor at a glory hole.



Its always someone else's fault??

Men like you! what if that was your daughter?

3/31/2011 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its idiots like this that keep us in the press and keep giving CPD a black eye. Just think they what to lower the standards even more, so watch for more of this shit to happen. Look for all the gangbangers that are coming out of the military, with the help of the rev's and the politicians joining CPD and continue there old ways under the cover of the badge.

3/31/2011 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me see....She was drunk and I am sure it was consensual

--AND they were in uniform on the clock so ....

3/31/2011 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous 10Sector23 said...

I'm reading a lot of "If this is true" qualifiers here. As someone who works in 023, I have no problem believing these characters would do such a thing. Secondly, this isn't the first time they've been accused of this exact act. I'd ask those of you who know someone who works here if they think this is true. The answer will almost certainly be a resounding YES!
Secondly: I'd ask those who want to paint the victim as the bad person, What if this were your daughter, or any female you cared about? Would you still defend them, simply because they're fellow officers?

3/31/2011 03:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...On the way to her apartment in the Rogers Park neighborhood, she had sex with one of the officers in a passenger seat, she told police.

When they arrived at her building, the three of them went inside her first-floor apartment, where they played strip poker, she told police, according to the report."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

If the allegations are true, these guys have blown the job and the pension, and DESERVEDLY SO, for being stupid on-duty.

That being said, if these idiots were off-duty, they would have been engaging in the kind of "attempted human mating" ritual that goes on between interested parties every night of the week and at every bar on the planet. Shame on them for thinking with the wrong head and not getting a phone number from her to try and hook-up at some later date.

Sounds like these dumb fucks deserve every bad thing that will befall them down the road. I only hope that they are not also dragging down a wife and kids with them who will suffer along with them due to their ignorant decision making. Way to disgrace the department and everyone who wears the uniform, you assclowns!

3/31/2011 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Story changed from this A.M. They picked her up, drunk, at Addison and Sheffield and offered her a ride took up to Granville. She allegedly performed on one of them in the car. I thought it was near complete bullshit at first, now I think its kinda' hinky, moving towards uh-oh. Rahm will punish everyone for this.

3/31/2011 03:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

these guys pulled a jerry b. except unlike jerry b. the clout baby who was promoted to sgt. these guys are done!!!!!

3/31/2011 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you hire immature jerks as the Police. Also, where were their Supervisors ? There is no across-the Board Accountability in the CPD anymore, it's all Politics. Now this Black-Eye will stay with ALL Officers of the CPD forever, thanks to a bunch of Politically-connected hirees asnd their Politically-connected but incompetent Supervisors, who aren't capable of any level of Supervision, but are the right race, color, sex, or Political Affiliation, so they are the big-money making Bosses. Oh well, another Scandal. We at CPD have a terrible reputation now anyway. It will probably get even worse by summers end.

3/31/2011 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always beware the "Setup" and the Cameras and recorders everywhere. You ARE being watched.. Don't forget this. ALL CPD is being watched.

3/31/2011 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First CBN story you linked to --

"The source said the woman got in the vehicle and was driven to her apartment.

"The woman reported the officers followed her inside to her first-floor apartment and sexually assaulted her".

A lot different from the version on CBN now --

"On the way to her apartment in the Rogers Park neighborhood, she had sex with one of the officers in a passenger seat, she told police.

"When they arrived at her building, the three of them went inside her first-floor apartment, where they played strip poker... she said she had sex with one of the officers..."

Night and day, huh?

3/31/2011 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CSA charges that stick? Never know, look what happened to Sgt Hermann. At the very least it has been established that the two are scumbags and guilty of extreme stupidity and have brought shame upon the department. They just threw away the next twenty years salary and pension for a piece of ass. They are fired at the minimum, most likely sued civilly in which they will pay punitively, their families are ruined and share in their shame. Don't bother having a benefit for them, no one will show.

3/31/2011 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cant run & hide from DNA boys!!!
IF u were both that stupid to do what u did...why would u think of condoms???
Fucking Idiots!!!

3/31/2011 04:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an Edgewater resident, I'm grateful that officers risk their lives every day to protect us. (The recent Thorndale-Devon murder-shooting-car chase was no picnic.)

But as a citizen/taxpayer, I'm going to continue to hold officers to a higher standard than the general public. Those who don't like accountability can turn in their badges. I'm not jumping to conclusions: due process is a good thing.

Again, thanks to all the brave and honest officers.

3/31/2011 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rape? No, I do not believe it. Sex with a citizen while on duty? Yes, I believe that. Now, they should be fired. This is something I did back in the day when I was young and stupid. But, times are different now and this is something that you just cannot do on duty. Yes, the appeals court reversed the conviction of Herman, but hs is still in custody pending a further appeal to the state supreme court. He is not out of the woods as of yet.

3/31/2011 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers relax they did some dumb shit , but according to the news , the young lady had consented to the sex in the police suv , she then allowed the officers into her apartment where they began to play strip poker, these are her words as reported to the news, one can easily say that maybe while having consented to the second sexual encounter the victim(?) may have sobered up a bit and began to feel like a tramp, or whatever you might want to call her and reacted , thus to save whatever bit of decency or moral fiber she thought she might have lost she cried rape! these two idiots did the dumbest thing they could have on duty, we all know had this have happened off duty and this was the story , they would have been released without charging. They will take time for some rule violations and if they are married they have alot of explaining to do. They should be made to feel bad and they need to get their heads out of their ass , they may have dodged the judge this time but may not be so lucky next time around .

3/31/2011 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We're trying to rebuild public confidence not destroy it any further. C'mon already!

3/31/2011 11:57:00 AM




let the public be confident of me.




Chalkie

3/31/2011 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As the mother of a Chicago cop I am glad these two will have their asses handed to them in a sling. I don't want my son or any other cop dependant on this quality of officer to watch their backs.

- copmom

3/31/2011 04:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

expect something in the CO book soon..no escorts or rides given to non CPD members.relocating domestics too. bottom line...think with your brain not with your...

3/31/2011 12:13:00 PM


Why the need? This is already in violation of general orders, rules & regs and Illinois criminal statutes to say nothing about common human decency.

Now these two can go make a living snatching iPhones on the CTA because that is the level they have sunk to.

3/31/2011 04:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, those Officers who have worked their tails' off, took pride wearing the uniform, and FOLLOWED the Department's rules and regulations has been tarnished by these two IDIOTS.. Consesual or not, we all know that we, Law Enforcement Officers, are forbidden to have any kind of sexual contact with ANYBODY, whether they're co-workers or civilians while in UNIFORM!!! But then again, this is the Chicago Police Department. These two are going to be able to keep their job and possibly get promoted in a few months. Unfucking real..

3/31/2011 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe these two will get the same treatment as Daley's nephew did by the Chief Byrne & S.A. Alvarez.

3/31/2011 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Thinking with the little head..."???? WTF? Are you guys kidding me? Using that excuse as a grown man is pathetic!!!

3/31/2011 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Men like you! what if that was your daughter?

3/31/2011 03:46:00 PM




you mean drunk, wandering the streets after midnight?

3/31/2011 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently the alleged female victim states she felt intimidated to the degree she had sex with both PO's once in the marked Tahoe and then again in her apt. possibly in the 024 Dist. It's been stated that one or both po's purchased a bottle of Vodka somewhere along the line. Allegedly during sexual intercourse in the apt. the so called victim who felt intimidated into having sex was banging on the wall causing a neighbor to inquire. The neighbor was told that everything was fine... then or shortly there after one PO carried his uniform out into the hallway wearing only his t-shirt and underwear, while the second PO was also observed by the neighbor trying to both tuck in his shirt and put his gun belt back on... With evidence left behind I.e., Belt Keepers, Vodka with fingerprints, and one of the PO's cell phone the alleged victim called 911 to report the incident.

3/31/2011 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CPD Vanekco thanks you, the mayor knew the CPD will over shadow his nephew's scandal.

3/31/2011 04:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know if some of you guys are reading the article or what. The article says there were two occasions of consensual sex before everything went haywire. Let me let some of you guys in on a little secret...if she feel uncomfortable in the middle of the act and says stop and you don't immediately, you're screwed..especially when you're on duty, your uniform is in her apt, neighbors hear her screaming and banging on walls, and a guy says he sees one naked guy and a uniformed officer walking away. We learned this freshman year in our mandatory "don't rape girls" class in the dorms. Two uniformed officers rape a woman at the same time. Unlikely. Two MEN messing around with a drunk lady consensually that says stop out of the blue and somebody wants her to relax and keep going...well that's believable and almost all of us have been to that party before.

3/31/2011 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I don't believe it's true. No one can be that stupid. But if they are that stupid then they get everything that is coming to them.

3/31/2011 05:54:00 AM

You must be new around here. There are some stupid fucks on this job!

Remember, it's the city of Chicago hiring practices we are speaking of.

3/31/2011 04:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

GREAT! Another reason for the media to start playing the Abbate video!

3/31/2011 04:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why does everyone keep talking about the GPS in the car? Whether it works or not does not EVER matter and the reason is we all carry a GPS transmitter with us all day long---Your cellphone! Ask anyone in the detective division and they will tell you that more criminals are caught with information from where their cellphones are hitting cell towers than anything else combined!

I laugh at officers who wont log onto the PDT because they feel it protects them from the GPS in the car but yet all day long their cellphone is constantly talking to cell towers nearby and, when requested, can give a pretty exact location; minute by minute! This information is even more useful to investigators because sometimes it is more important to know where the OFFICER was than to know where the squad car was!!

Supposedly the GPS in these idiots car wasnt working, but cell records will be very accurate. The reason this case is being C/I'd is NOT because they dont have enough evidence (anyone who saw the powdered up squad car and uniform evidence recovered from the scene knows this) but rather, they are waiting on all the aditional evidence--the DNA from the rape kit, the cell phone locations, interviews with one of the officers' homewrecking girlfriends, cameras all along broadway avenue, etc., The victims story never stops changing but, even if they dont get charged with the rape and false imprisonment, they have violated enough rules to never worry about wearing their inventoried uniform- items ever again.

3/31/2011 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

consenual or not it was FUCKING DUMB

3/31/2011 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know where your officers are? supervisor lack of supervision make this this story a sad one now we have a victim . what is the supervisors out there for they get paid to supervise . supervisor we can not be lacks cause we have friends on the job. your job is to make sure you know what your officers are doing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!1GOLD STARS effective immeidately no more assist citizen anywhere period!! and if you have to assist citizen it should be done by officers of the same sex whether an arrest or assisting let start using these squardol .

3/31/2011 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It took the two of them together to commit the act. Remove one, and in many instances the crimes that they committed wouldn't have gone down."

While a group always seems to lower it's standards to those of the lowest common denominator (mob mentality), all I see here is an argument for one-man cars.

3/31/2011 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"These 2 so called officers were on duty, in a marked SUV, supposed to be serving the public, not servicing one of the public."

CAPS Gone Wild!

3/31/2011 05:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Hey, I'm Just Sayin, said...

How many THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of these transports are done all the time without ANY complaint. PLEASE, everyone understand that this is an isolated incident of extreme stupidity and NOT a common or even a rare occurrence.

Also, realize that no Police Officer will condone or support ANY other officer who has committed the kind of acts that have been alleged here.

3/31/2011 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you mean drunk, wandering the streets after midnight?


Whether she was drunk or not.... If the cops are on duty they shouldn't be making booty calls while working.

3/31/2011 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger A said...

I just don't believe this girls account sounds like BS to me.

But I just hope the public keeps in mind now all cops are bad in Chicago.

And we shouldn't rush to judgment on this.

3/31/2011 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I call BS on this.

3/31/2011 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The media accounts may have changed over the last 24 hours, too bad the facts discovered by responding officers, detectives and IAD have been terribly consistent. Probably will beat CSA charges in a trial, but they'll be looking for new employment soon for certain.

Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves for blaming the victim. Disgusting. Guess what, the media has some facts and some opinions in their story. Hope the asshole who leaked the case report to them gets fired too!

The woman has numerous mental issues and was not drunk. The police had been drinking, and obviously have mental issues of their own.

3/31/2011 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Consensual or not these two guys are fucking stupid! On duty? Really? How dumb are you?

3/31/2011 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe this shit! I bet J-Fed is laughing his ass off saying "I told you so!

3/31/2011 10:10:00 AM

=
Really. Like JPWeis shouldn't be mortally embarrassed by the antics of Penelope Trahanas and Ernie Brown? And he is RESPONSIBLE for each of them being in management spots on this department.

3/31/2011 05:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

- A Supervisor Who Knows

If you knew then why didn't u do anything about these "animals"

3/31/2011 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you read the case report she admits that the sex was consensual and that she never said no. She only now says that she was intimidated. I wasn't there so I can't say what happened, but from the account given by the victim she was not raped. The officer's are ridiculous, idiotic, reprobates for considering and engaging in the acts they did. The deserve everything they get.
P.S. Don't count on GPS the city doesn't pay bills and they don't work.

3/31/2011 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT --

DALEY STILL SELLING OFF CITY

Someome stop this man! Today, he sold off the recycling program to (guess who) Waste Management. You are gonna hafta pay $10.00 a month for pickups now.

Tomorrow, who knows...

3/31/2011 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY said...

Anonymous said:
Don't everyone jump the gun on this yet. Let's wait for the facts to come out first and not believe everything the left wing media is telling us. What a coincidence that a story like this pops out of thin air to distract the attention away from the real criminals, ie. Vanecko & Daley crime family inc.

3/31/2011 11:20:00 AM
__________________________________

This is a good observation. This "scandal" eclipses the Vanecko scandal. It is like all the media jumping on Charlie Sheen's antics instead of what's going on in the Middle East or rising gas prices.

Withhold judgment until this story pans out. If these two cops are dirty, the COPMOM is right - you don't want them backing you up. Let them go.

3/31/2011 05:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If allegations are true:

Fuck these guys....they bring embarrassment to the entire city and department.

3/31/2011 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AT Approximately 10 minutes after the time of the alleged occurrence, their sergeant
BEAT 2310 was looking for the accused officers.

He became agitated when they did not answer the radio and demanded that the jack-asses be "red-lined".

HOWEVER, the softball Watch Commander said to “let it go”.

Who was the softball WC??

3/31/2011 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If she was drunk and they were in uniform, there is no such thing as consensual sex. Use some common sense, you should be holding yourself to a higher standard.

3/31/2011 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the words of George Constanza:

Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time.

Idiots!!

3/31/2011 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey asshat who made the remark of "never having to take one suspension day in 18 years of service"... YOU must've never been the REAL police. So get off your high horse and shove your 2 cent comment along with your ego back up your hole. Ofcourse you never took one day of suspension..., how can you when you're either working behind the front desk or just writing parking tickets??? Un-fuckn-believable...

Was this a bad decision on part of those officers??, YES... But there just allegations... I'm sure those officers have cooperated in every way with the investigation willingly... As innocent people do.... I'm also sure the victim isn't playing with a full deck of cards and sees an opportunity to cash in.... In any case.., these officers have done more damage to their own careers then to the image of the Police Department... Remember folks.., this incident was not a conspiracy thoughout the enitre 023rd District or the department for that matter... it's an isolated incident stemming from bad decision making among two officers whom will be lucking to have a job when this is done.

Nonetheless.., you all know there is the victim's version of the incident in question, there is the officer's.. and somewhere in between.. the TRUTH.....
So don't be quick to pass judgement.. We are not like sheeple....

3/31/2011 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee George..... Were fucked! Bet on losing your jobs, bet on a lawsuit, bet on being criminally prosecuted. Dont bet on the lottery, its not a sure thing but the above three are. In closing... Stupid...WTF were you morons thinking? No its not a mistake but YES... You WILL be sorry.

3/31/2011 05:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boys and Girls you need to remeber if the in car camera is ON it is recording audio in the vehicle, the remote mics dont activate untile u activate them BUT the incar mic is ALWAYS recording.

3/31/2011 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Cant run & hide from DNA boys!!!
IF u were both that stupid to do what u did...why would u think of condoms???
Fucking Idiots!!!

3/31/2011 04:11:00 PM




DNA in the Tahoe, Fingerprints in the Liquor Store, Video tape in the Liquor Store, DNA in the Apt., Fingerprints in the Apt.

Say bye bye to your jobs.
Fools.

3/31/2011 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here in 023 most aren't surprised.

If true they deserve to suffer. No matter what comes of the criminal case they should be done for good.

As for their Sgt...unless he can track them on GPS himself like the WCs can, how can he be held responsible for anything?

3/31/2011 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vanekco moves to page 32 thanks to a couple Goofs.

3/31/2011 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we're going from police kicking ass to police making love. well, we're improving. jody would be proud!

3/31/2011 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a civilian, let me say this: I would rather hear you admit the incident (not necessarily every detail of her claim) is unfortunately likely to be true and strongly condemn this behavior, than hear you say it can't possibly be because if it were, the public would think all cops are like that. Give us a little credit.

3/31/2011 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

beyond a doubt some of the most stupid act I have heard of or seen on this job have been done by police officers.... the fucked up thing is it always seems like these people keep getting away with similar things until there is a complete meltdown

3/31/2011 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what happens when you hire immature jerks as the Police. Also, where were their Supervisors ?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ok, now you want the supervisors to dog people? I read a lot of "I wish the Sgt would mind his own business" on here. Now you want to put this shit on a supervisor?

Give me a fucking break.

3/31/2011 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the watch commander should be monitoring gps and not telling a sgt to forget about red line
sgt did the right thing
it should be on tape that sgt ordered the officers red lined
let sgts run the watch , wc's do not want to do their job , look at roll call , officers late , beards , watch commanders do nothing

3/31/2011 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its looking like very few of us remember or live by the little thing we took when we signed up for this job! Its called the "OATH"

3/31/2011 06:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a few years ago wasn't a sgt accused of forcing a female to disrobe in wgn parking lot
heard he's still on the job
probably connected to a boss or politician

3/31/2011 06:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://forum.fortuna.firm.in/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=360129

3/31/2011 06:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i hope this is an eye-opener to all the dumb fuck GQ hair jell police who always want to drive by the clubs to get a glimpse at these women.


i havent seen any "two year wonder" or "hair gel police" being accused of sexual assault while on duty, or fighting a bartender on video, or robbing dope dealers and doing home invasions. these 2 knuckleheads have 10yrs on each from what ive read. and besides since when does how a person wears their hair determine how good a police officer they are? personally i have 4 yrs on and im bald, but so what if someone doesnt want to look like a slob and tries to look presentable. big deal.

ps its spelled GEL. iliterate fuck.

3/31/2011 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:


Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7

Current Update
March 31, 2011
FOID Cards

The Department has notified the Lodge that a valid FOID card will need to be presented at the 2011 Spring uniform inspection. Members should verify that they have a valid, unexpired FOID card in their possession.

Any member who does not possess a valid FOID card at the 2011 Spring uniform inspection runs the risk of going into a no-pay status until the member can provide proof of a valid FOID card.

The 2011 Spring uniform inspection is scheduled to take place sometime from May 1, 2011 through May 10, 2011.

Members may contact the Lodge for further instructions.
---


If you have no FOID card simply don't go to the inspection, medical is best. So much for police not required to have an FOID card. I was forced to get one in the academy.

3/31/2011 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The 3 B's...Booze, Broads, and Bread will land you straight in the penitentiary."

Add the forth "B" . . . Bullets.

3/31/2011 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RWOC.....???

3/31/2011 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Here Comes a Storm"
---


Geez, I hope I can beat the reprimand I have coming from my latest squad car accident that the department ruled preventable over a year after the accident.

It is important to engage in proper vehicle operations I was told. Safety first. But there was no damage on the squad car I protested. Doesn't matter I was told, a preventable accident is a preventable accident. Someone must pay! What if some blind and crippled aldermen were crossing the street? Or retired exempts struggling under the load of carrying their pension check?

Next time I will total the goddamn car. That's what you get for telling the truth.

3/31/2011 06:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Chicago Tribune Breaking News has comments disabled.

3/31/2011 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous was there said...

AT Approximately 10 minutes after the time of the alleged occurrence, their sergeant
BEAT 2310 was looking for the accused officers.

He became agitated when they did not answer the radio and demanded that the jack-asses be "red-lined".

HOWEVER, the softball Watch Commander said to “let it go”.

NOW, as of 3:00pm on 31 March,
the media relates someone in the department is demanding that the SERGEANT be hung for “not doing his job.”

------

The WC said just to "admonish them"...

... I hope the dept fries the WC. NOT their sergeant.

3/31/2011 06:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is only 1 job where you are paid to have sex. There does not have to be a specified rule or any discussion about this since, unless you are a hooker you are not allowed to have sex on the clock.

3/31/2011 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the comment that was posted saying EB is addressing roll calls in response to this "sex" incident. That cracks me up. Hehehehehe. EB would be the expert in this subject matter.

3/31/2011 06:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes all of about two minutes to drop a slip and go off duty. It takes a whole lot of stupid to do anything like this on clock in a marked squad.

3/31/2011 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Watched the Hillard/Byrne CPD News Conference at 6:00PM. Sounds like there will be charges down the road in this case. The reason given during the news conference for RWOC was the 48 hour rule and waiting for the results of the submitted evidence (DNA). The powers to be would rather have this one resolved in court rather than having CPD accused of another cover-up (Recent Vanecko case). Timing is everything. Whether or not charges apply, this is an extreme case of a very bad decision.

3/31/2011 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Cant run & hide from DNA boys!!!
IF u were both that stupid to do what u did...why would u think of condoms???
Fucking Idiots!!!

3/31/2011 04:11:00 PM


Never used condoms before, why would they use them this time?

This is not the first time these two idiots did something like this.

What is needed is their peers to put pressure on them or to flat out call them on it or turn them in.

But then their co-workers would be considered "rats." So don't be the police when two guys in uniform are the criminals but let them shame us all by their despicable behavior.

THAT is what is wrong with this department. These two had co-workers in 023 who knew what they were up to. Same thing years ago in 019 with Abbate and many other miscreants passing themselves off as police officers.

But the Code of Silence protects these scumbags to the detriment of us all.

And god forbid a copper writes up a drunken PO for DUI he can expect curses and death threats for actually enforcing the laws fairly and impartially.

How many of you working in 023 knew what these two jokers were up to and kept silent and looked the other way?

Think about that one and realize that is the problem. No one wants to do their job when the criminals are police. Not until the shitstorm blows up in all our faces and some PO is ordered to do his/her job and can then have the plausible deniability of saying, "hey, they ordered me to do it bro'"

And coppers actually shake their heads at why this could happen?

Next time you see some cruds doing this shit simply take some action. You are the police after all.

That would take real courage and balls of stainless steel.

3/31/2011 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy Im glad my sun is setting and soon I'll be lined up with the other retirees begging for a can of Alpo in the street.

Anything is better then being "shocked" once again by the actions of POs. Im so shocked by being shocked for 26 years it is positively "shocking". And here we are with another shocking allegation that will "shock" us all.

Listening to all these shocked blog coppers makes me pine for a little hillbilly shack in Arkansas where I dont have to be shocked anymore "high speed internet and cable required".

"Blue shirt who really doesnt give a fuck!"

3/31/2011 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These guys pulled a jerry b. except unlike jerry b. the clout baby who was promoted to sgt. these guys are done!!!!!

3/31/2011 03:55:00 PM
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That pervert ASSHOLE is in 014 / 1st watch and will make LT. soon.

His mommy .. a street deputy got him out of his jam after 5 years in call back.

This job makes me sick

3/31/2011 07:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"WBEZ JUMPED THE GUN AND NOW THEY FEEL STUPID and are trying to make it right."

--3/31/2011 08:26:00 AM

WBE-what?

That particular signal doesn't get very far west of Lincoln Park, if you know what I mean.

This is an old one from another thread. Those two officers showing off the kid in the back of their car acted unprofessionally, giving over control of a situation and endangering themselves and a prisoner, when they chose to laugh and sport with the Latin Kings. It's on tape.

If this is "CAPS," dump it before it gets someone killed.

End.

3/31/2011 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have never EVER been so embarrassed to wear our uniform in 20 years on the job. I spent 9 hrs today avoiding eye contact with a general public that is furious with us. In this day and age what were they thinking? The shame they bring on their families, friends and the whole dept is not going away any time soon. Fuck them and anyone who would attempt to defend them.There is no defense!

3/31/2011 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Innocent until proven guilty?

3/31/2011 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous CPDson said...

Anonymous said...
As the mother of a Chicago cop I am glad these two will have their asses handed to them in a sling. I don't want my son or any other cop dependant on this quality of officer to watch their backs.

- copmom

3/31/2011 04:18:00 PM

Mommmmm, get off the blog, geez, I can't do ANYTHING! When I move outta the basement that'll teach you.

3/31/2011 07:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bye Bye Terry your days as SUPT are numbered! Shades of Cline

3/31/2011 01:57:00 PM

Hey retard, he's the "Interim" Superintendent of Police. He's automatically out when Rahmster becomes mayor and selects the new Superintendent. Everyone knows this, except you.

3/31/2011 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT -- Profiles In Cowardice

WBBM radio performed another public service today in the hunt for a murderer by continuing to balk at providing a physical description of the man who threw the 68-year-old woman down the stairs at the Fullerton "L" stop.

"Go to our web site" if you want to "see the sketch" was all they'd say.

If there is indeed a "Digital Divide" in this country, it's hypersensitive ninny-nannies like this who are causing it, "disempowering" the poor and elderly who may not have a computer on Internet access. Don't they have a right to know what is public information regarding an immediate danger?

You sniveling little jerks.

CBN did finally use the word "black" when printing the suspect's description today, and WGN-TV followed along this evening.

God forbid that anyone know what the offender looks like...

3/31/2011 07:31:00 PM  
Anonymous 6 months, 5 days, 43 minutes to go said...

From ABC 7 News:

Question:

"Since the policemen were on duty, ABC7 is told there are also questions for their supervisors including whether they knew where the officers were at the time of the alleged assault."

Answer:

NO, they did not answer the fuckin' radio.

That is why the supervisor was trying to "red-line" them.

Just like another poster stated.. how do you BABY-SIT sometimes as many as 25 adult men and women that are on your log each shift?

The department will not promote any more sergeants.. it will only be more pressure to play mommy and daddy.

3/31/2011 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my god... can you just switch back to beatings please.... i'd rather have my ass kicked for no reason than get raped.

3/31/2011 02:09:00 PM

I am ashamed to admit it, but you made me chuckle. Now let's talk about you and me slapping each other around a little bit. Hmmm?

3/31/2011 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know a lot of guys want to stick up for these guys,very honorable of you, but save it for someone who deserves it.When all the facts come out it is not going to be good.Taking advantage of a true mental whether she is drunk or not will not be accepted.This conduct is especially disturbing because Police Officers are supposed to help those with disabilities not take advantage of them to get a nut off.Sorry,no pity for these douche bags.

3/31/2011 07:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Officers relax they did some dumb shit , but according to the news , the young lady had consented to the sex in the police suv , she then allowed the officers into her apartment where they began to play strip poker, these are her words as reported to the news, one can easily say that maybe while having consented to the second sexual encounter the victim(?) may have sobered up a bit and began to feel like a tramp, or whatever you might want to call her and reacted , thus to save whatever bit of decency or moral fiber she thought she might have lost she cried rape! these two idiots did the dumbest thing they could have on duty, we all know had this have happened off duty and this was the story , they would have been released without charging. They will take time for some rule violations and if they are married they have alot of explaining to do. They should be made to feel bad and they need to get their heads out of their ass , they may have dodged the judge this time but may not be so lucky next time around .

3/31/2011 04:18:00 PM

Take SOME TIME? Are you high? They will be lucky if they only get fired. They violated just about every rule violation there is, not to mention Offical Misconduct. They should not be police officers. They make us all look bad. They picked up a drunk stranger while they were supposed to be on patrol and had a "free for all!"

3/31/2011 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whatever happened to.....professionalism, character, integrity? where did it go? was it ever there?

3/31/2011 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets just hope this was consensual and the woman is now trying to get the ghetto lottery money. Any way you look at it, it sure smells like an old pickle on the floor at a glory hole.

Repeatedly hearing this - you cannot have consentual sex while ON DUTY!!

3/31/2011 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shit. Shit, shit, shit, shit.

3/31/2011 12:07:00 PM

Damn! Damn! Damn! Double-Damn! We can't catch a break!

3/31/2011 08:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ABC News said the woman alleges that she was sexually assaulted IN THE PASSENGER SEAT of the SUV and that in the apartment they PLAYED STRIP POKER. This woman is either a deceptive, cunning, bitch or a raving mental. The allegations are so far out there is no way they are true. Doesn't matter though, the officers have already been convicted in the media.

3/31/2011 11:07:00 AM

You sir, are a JACKASS.

3/31/2011 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Allegations like this happened several years ago against some uniformed guys from 018. Turned out the victim made the whole thing up and was eventually charged with felony disorderly conduct and filing a false police report. We can only hope that the evidence shows that this is a fabricated story. Only time will tell.

3/31/2011 01:34:00 PM

Wish it were fabricated, but when you have legit witnesses seeing one of the guys naked and the other getting dressed, running away and leaving personal property behind, it doesn't seem like a fairy tale. Bad day for the CPD. Doubt CSA charges will fly, but there will probably be some others including offical misconduct. Screw them, they make us all look bad no matter what the final charge will be.

3/31/2011 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

""Time and mileage"" Do they even teach that in the academy anymore?

And who is the supervisor that allows these two fools (who allegedly had a similar incident before together) work together. Bad management.

3/31/2011 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There we go again... "Held to a higher standard.."

Pay me then. Laborers make more then us.

3/31/2011 08:39:00 PM  
Anonymous 016 District Section 8 said...

I heard they got an event number for special attention?

3/31/2011 08:41:00 PM  

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