If It Looks Like a Duck....
Same thing if it looks like a cover-up:
The decision by the Cook County state’s attorney’s office not to charge a nephew of Mayor Daley in the one-punch death of 21-year-old David Koschman in 2004 hung largely on the fact that witnesses couldn’t positively identify the nephew, Richard J. “R.J.” Vanecko, in a police lineup, according to prosecutors.
State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez and the Chicago Police Department have refused to release photographs, though, of that lineup and of a second lineup in which witnesses identified two other men as being there with Vanecko when he threw the punch in a drunken confrontation on Division Street at Dearborn in the early morning hours of April 25, 2004.
Now, the police are asking Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan’s office — where one of the two retired detectives who supervised those lineups now works — to ensure that those pictures, as well as some other records, aren’t made public.
We foresee many lawyers charging by the hour getting rich off of these court battles.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
103 Comments:
You forgot to mention the two dicks that shitcanned the case both got well paying clout jobs after they retired in addition to their police pensions. You sold your soul to shanks at least you parlayed it into a nice spot after retirement.
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
Two set's of laws.
One that applies to the churls and the other that applies to the royal families of Chicago.
The corruption runs deep.
Talk about a heater case and a political hot potato that won't go away!
Why the hell hasn't the Daley Crime Family been able to bury this story?
Who is bumbling this case soooo badly that the "media" won't let it die?
Who's keeping this story alive?
Is it due to Daley retiring? Is the cowardly MSM suddenly no longer intimidated by the snarling midget?
Why not just have Obama's DOJ take the case and kill it once and for all?
Or, better yet, indict the a**hole and let it go on its own merit in a court of law?
Gee, why do you think they don't want to release them?
Who in the CPD is asking that the investigative files be sealed, and why?
Though I am glad that the media keeps pushing this story - it stinks to high heaven - I still think that the news outlets do a shitty job of reporting the news anyway. They report half-truths, leave out facts, very minimally correct errors and they hide their agendas behind the 1st amendment.
I agree with them on this: the people have a right to know! And what I want to know is who checks out the media, their stories and their credentials. They disgust me as much as the Daley crime family.
Hopefully, the media will at least get this story right and stay on top of it as if it were reporting a story about a nitwit cop battering a tiny bar maid.
Citizens, your news reporters have strange bed fellows. Too bad that won't get reported!
How can the Police Dept honestly investigate the Mayors family,If you bury it you get promoted ,if you do your job you get dumped.
If you think the Feds are going to stick their noses in this, ask the current white house chief of staff?
Anonymous said...
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
4/14/2011 12:42:00 AM
Stop making bullshit drug arrests and the problem is solved. Tac teams now ill have to actually look for real crime.
To all you 3rd watch "lawyers" out there. If none of the victims friends identified Vanecko, and the two "unbiased" witnesses didn't either, who says he punched him?
And did that person then change their story before being locked in?
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
4/14/2011 12:42:00 AM
There is a sensational story there for the news. How there is so much crime being commited by the same criminals. The criminals know they would only spend a night in jail and get fed. There is no fear in the courts so they continue to do it over and over until they kill someone. Then people still want to rehabilitate the criminal.
To 12:42am, sorry you guys have a shit judge, don't worry about the lawsuits though, if you had pc no scumbag lawyer will touch it, there is no guarantee of payout.
Who's keeping this story alive?
4/14/2011 04:03:00 AM
The "who" is a Mother in search of justice for her son. By all accounts, she is aware of the power wielded by the Daley crime family, but she is standing strong for her son and wants answers to the looming questions. God bless her.
Just curious. Where was Patrick "Slugger" Daley that night?
Where is JFLED when we need him most to ask his FED buddies to investigate? All levels of Law Enforcement in Illinois are rampant with corruption. I'm afraid that looking for a new LE job with a background with the CPD will hurt me.
They never used to even take photos of negative lineups. Why in the world would a negative lineup photo need to be published in a newspaper? For that matter, why would a positive lineup photo be suitable for a newspaper story? It's the same reason why the department does not release mug shots of people who have been arrested and released without charges.
Lineup photos and police reports are for court. They are not fodder for newspapers. They are not given away to the public to feed their curiosity.
Anita Alverez is the chief law enforcement official in Cook County. She can initiate grand jury investigations, just as easy as federal prosecutors can. In fact, years ago Devine initiated a GJ investigation when a clouted water department official was choked out at a suburban wedding and witnesses refused to cooperate with the police investigation.
Anita doesn't need the Chicago Police to open a case so she can prosecute. She doesnt need the State Police to investigate, so she can prosecute. Anita is in charge, not the police department.
The proper question is why isn't she starting a GJ instigation? The Scum Times doesn't ask that because they would get no info from a GJ investigation. All they want is to sell papers and lineup photos would do just that.
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
4/14/2011 12:42:00 AM
Don't you get it yet!! Nobody gives a fuck about dope arrests. Keep chasing that little plastic bag of dope to please the boss to keep your spot and you will find yourself fired or in jail. (and please stop with the 3 seperate transactions or the he looked in my direction and tossed the bag to the ground b.s. Remember you are always being watched)
I guess the parents of this kid just don't count. No closure for them. Their kid gets murdered and nothing happens. The offender is known, and nothing happens. Why not put the facts before a Grand Jury? I hope that anyone involved in this case can look themselves in the mirror and say they did the right thing.
What happened to the Felong Review file, when the ASA responds to approve charges on a felony investigation he either rejects charges, approves charges, or requests further investigation and informs the Assigned Detective's what the ASA requires in order to approve charges. In any event, the ASA prepares a Felony Review file which is on record to assist in the present investigation or when the investigation might be reopened due to investigative leads. This Felony Review file prepared by the ASA tells the real facts of the past investigation.
anyone thinks that the case....stinks? and....justice for the victim (however that is defined)....??
Hmmmmmmmm? A cover up?????
Duh!!!!!
To bad with Barack in office the Feds will never look at his machine!
i hope there is a civil case. more than enough evidence to find RJ liable for the death of that kid.
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
4/14/2011 12:42:00 AM
I don't think any judge has ever found PC on a pcs case that's been under 1 gram. Get used to it.
Well at least Grau has a good retirement job out of the deal now. Maybe he could do both jobs if Rahm hires him as the new soup just like J-Fled originally had two job responsibilities with the city.
Maybe they aren't releasing them because the fillers are police officers. Maybe they aren't releasing them because they don't release them in any other case where the MSM has no interest.
Novak, Fusco and Marin need to stop kicking this horse. This is a shit case about a drunken bar brawl at 3 a.m. and nothing is going to make it better.
Where in the world is RJ?
Maybe he took Patrick's spot in Russia...
i heard from a friend about the new judge in 48. i have a good case coming up next week and if what you say is true, it's already a loser before i even step into the courtroom. that's bullshit
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who in the CPD is asking that the investigative files be sealed, and why?
4/14/2011 06:53:00 AM
ahh someone promised a exempt spot?
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
Any time you want to leave the judge's name so we know who it is, just go right ahead.
My guess is that the pics don't exist any longer. They've conveniently managed to "disappear".
The kid didn't get charged with a crime because he didn't commit a crime. Regardless of who he is! all the witnesses at the time said the other kid was the aggressor. REGARDLESS of his size....you are not required get punched in the mouth because you are big!
Hey Obama, just a question, while your in town eating $25,000.00 plates of food, children are being shot and stabbed to death in our streets, in your street's, remember you are from Chicago, what are you going to do about this and are you thinking of this while you dine this evening or are you just concerned with making money?
Kick the can!!!
Corruption at its Finest. What do you expect, look who's in the White House.
I hate Daley, he is a liar and a criminal. However this does not change the fact that this case never gets charged in Cook County unless a police officer is involved. The mistake made here was not presenting the case and having charges rejected. The offender obviously is identified or it never have been ccxed. Dump it in the States lap, why should we take the heat.
Off topic but here is a link to a short video on Hiram Grau's SDenate confirmation.
http://www.foxillinois.com/news/illinois/Illinois-Senate-OKs-Hiram-Grau-to-lead-state-police-119797974.html
That shits been going on at 111th street for years. The judge that signed the search warrant finding no probab on her own warrant. ohoohoho boy
FOUND PROPERTY REPORT: LOSER: The taxpayer FINDER: Shortshanks daley DISCRIBED PROPERTY: lost revenue reclaimed. Daly B>S
Any word on the civil suit? That's how they got OJ.
Daley's circle of crime
What a shame. The stuttering prick's nephew gets away with killing someone's son, and the only ones that can be prosecuted are the cops!
The Daley tentacles reach everywhere but to the truth.
let the mfrs use all the drugs
who gives a crap , lockem up for dui not possession
it'll cost them alot more
Where is JFLED when we need him most to ask his FED buddies to investigate? All levels of Law Enforcement in Illinois are rampant with corruption. I'm afraid that looking for a new LE job with a background with the CPD will hurt me.
4/14/2011 09:39:00 AM
Weis HAS no fed buddies. Ask anyone he used to work with.
WHO, specifically, made the request? Hillard?
Dear 11:17 am
When you're done fellating short shanks do you do his kid and nephew too.
former judge in Br 44 has been doing that for years Maybe thats where the judge in br 48 learned
Some excellent comments made by detectives and;or those who have been involved in such "sticky" investigations.
To highlight, det. yawger went public on his own merit and validit, because he is officially retired and working for another department , which is technically nobody's business. The point is Yawger talked to the press about his experience.
If anyone saw that article last week, Yawger said that they all would have loved to put a "daley" clan member in jail if they could legally do so.
Although Yawger spoke freely, and more freely than anoyone else would have, there were loop holes that made one wonder what type of detective allowed that to happen. Especially one with such an open "honest" opinion.
Obiously they want Yawger and then some, to keep their mouths shut to the press.
U.S. Attorney, where are you? You're not under the covers with Daley are you ?
Though I am glad that the media keeps pushing this story - it stinks to high heaven - I still think that the news outlets do a shitty job of reporting the news anyway. They report half-truths, leave out facts, very minimally correct errors and they hide their agendas behind the 1st amendment.
I agree with them on this: the people have a right to know! And what I want to know is who checks out the media, their stories and their credentials. They disgust me as much as the Daley crime family.
Hopefully, the media will at least get this story right and stay on top of it as if it were reporting a story about a nitwit cop battering a tiny bar maid.
Citizens, your news reporters have strange bed fellows. Too bad that won't get reported!
4/14/2011 07:46:00 AM
You ain't lying. After 32 years on this job the only thing I trust in the newspapers are the box scores. And sometimes I even check those twice!!!!
O/T: Thanks again to all the 16 and 25th district officers that helped me out on Central/Cullom last night. It was greatly appreciated. ODPO
I can't wait until IL gets concealed carry. The mutts will be killing each other all over the city claiming 'self-defense'. CPD will be able to disband the gun unit!
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this.
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work in that area so been to that court. just about every one or two bag dope case in that court has been dismissed with no PC even before that judge for years. no news there. I adapted and dont arrest someone for a one bagger. life isn't that difficult. the weed dismissal part I can't comment on cause I havent seen that.
In any event, the ASA prepares a Felony Review file which is on record to assist in the present investigation or when the investigation might be reopened due to investigative leads. This Felony Review file prepared by the ASA tells the real facts of the past investigation.
4/14/2011 10:12:00 AM
Go ahead and make shit up asshat. The police do the investigation, interview witnesses, take statments and run the lineups. Who gives a flying fuck what is put into the Felony Review file? Have you ever even seen what the file looks like? There is not one single thing in there that is not in the PD reports except one of four notations-Approved, Rejected, C/I (continuing investigation) or Advice. Everything else is BS and you are full of it.
I do not recall photos ever taken of a negative lineup. I am retired, tho, have things changed? Anyway, cops are in this line-up, I do not think any photos should be released. They are not to be printed in any newspaper. States' attorney notes from felony review are really pretty brief, and usually damn hard to read. I have to give weight to the investigating detectives in this matter. I just do not believe that any CPD detective would cover up a case and sell his soul. They present their case to felony review and the on scene ASA makes the call. End of story. Blame the states attorney in this matter, not the police. But, after all, the police are an easy target for every scum reporter and politician who needs something/someone to focus on and make a few headlines.
OT:
Check this story out.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-apparent-homicide-at-oak-brook-corporate-park-20110414,0,2410337.story
Short version. Guy killed his ex-girlfriend in Oak Brook. He is from Canada. One of his factors in doing it was that Illinois does not have a death penalty.
Thanks Gov Quinn. This women's blood is on your hands just as much as the six Willis children's blood is on George Ryan's hands.
Anonymous said...
To all you 3rd watch "lawyers" out there. If none of the victims friends identified Vanecko, and the two "unbiased" witnesses didn't either, who says he punched him?
And did that person then change their story before being locked in?
4/14/2011 08:53:00 AM
Sorry, pal.
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING you or anyone else can say, will convince me that this SHOULD NOT get investigated by someone OUTSIDE OF Crook County, Chicago, Illinois.
If the Feds want to bury it, so be it, but AT LEAST force THEM to do it!
Weren' there some surveillance cameras down at the scene, they are Everywhere down there.
11:17 am maybe this is a shit case about a drunken bar brawl at 3 am - but if i was at Mikes on webster and punched a drunk yuppie ,my ass would be in jail now and being released wouldn't look very good
Many of you keep calling for the G to get involved. If you don't believe that they have already looked at this whole thing to see if there is a Federal crime committed, you might want to buy a bridge. Not everything is covered by federal statutes, in point of fact, very little is. They usually hang their hats on Civil Rights charges, but that requires a state or local official depriving someone of their rights, trying to use the cover of a law or ordinance. Clearly not the case her. To whomever mentions the Detectives killing the case, you apparently have the wrong idea of the power of a Detective.
former judge in Br 44 has been doing that for years Maybe thats where the judge in br 48 learned
4/14/2011 04:35:00 PM
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Yes, I remember him. I had a ten rocker that he kicked to the curb before the PD could say I have no questions. My mouth dropped. Good ole' Crook County.
OT: Thanks Governor Potato Head - the guy who murdered the girl in Oakbrook did some research and found out that Illinois doesn't have the death penalty anymore. Maybe you should be the one to notify the girl's family you asshole.
Novak, Fusco and Marin need to stop kicking this horse. This is a shit case about a drunken bar brawl at 3 a.m. and nothing is going to make it better.
4/14/2011 11:17:00 AM
Well, asshole, it's easy to see who butters your bread.
This is NOT a bar brawl case. This is a case where a man LOST HIS LIFE because a Daley family member was out fucking around and the police are now covering up the antics of another of that criminal family of asshole scumbag politicians.
So why don't you do us all a fucking favor and pull your head out of Daley's ass as you release the grip on the reach around your giving him and go fuck yourself with a dirty broom handle.
Now go get your fucking shine box, you boot licking piece of fucking shit.
If a cop did it, it would have been case closed by arrest, and he'd be in the DOC.
Daley's nephew, seal documents, no charges, c'mon, the case was sunk by the ASA because they are the ones who disapprove/approve felony charges no matter how good the case is. Any dic will tell you that. I feel for the victim's mother.
What happened to the Felong Review file, when the ASA responds to approve charges on a felony investigation he either rejects charges, approves charges, or requests further investigation and informs the Assigned Detective's what the ASA requires in order to approve charges. In any event, the ASA prepares a Felony Review file which is on record to assist in the present investigation or when the investigation might be reopened due to investigative leads. This Felony Review file prepared by the ASA tells the real facts of the past investigation.
4/14/2011 10:12:00 AM
Don't know where the dic supp file is, but it was reported the ASA was "lost". Makes you go hhhmmmmm.
I won't go to the feds because the Vanecko's other uncle is chief of staff for Obummer.
Anonymous said...
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
Any time you want to leave the judge's name so we know who it is, just go right ahead.
4/14/2011 12:05:00 PM
Where have you been? Its been like that for awhile in all prelim courts. Br 50 same way.
This hot potato will be tossed back and forth until the Daley Clan can figure out a way to make 'go away' .
Let's hope our Pension board doesn't allow another "sure thing" real estate investment. RJ is going to need some tall bucks for the wrongful death settlement.
In a month The ShortShanks Finale will be the biggest event (before Oprah's) and every chumbalone will want to celebrate the moment with the biggest band of thieves known as Daley Inc.
OT: California’s Supreme Court has ruled in, People v Gregory Diaz, that police do not need a search warrant to read text messages on a suspect’s cell phone. A search warrant is a court order issued by a judge that authorizes police officers to search a person or place for evidence of a crime. In 2007, Gregory Diaz was arrested for selling drugs. The police found drugs in his possession, but also looked on his cell phone and found a text message about buying and selling drugs. Searches of someone’s person, house, or papers without a warrant are allowed at the time of arrest in that there is always a chance the suspect could try to conceal or destroy evidence. Mr. Diaz however argued that this was an unlawful search and seizure. The decision was 5-2 in favor of warrantless searches of cell phones. The judgment written by Justice Ming Chin reads,” when carried in the clothing, a mobile phone is personal property that is immediately associated with the person of the arrestee,” and as such,”police may, without obtaining a warrant, inspect a mobile phone carried by a suspect at the time of arrest, by viewing or listening to its electronically stored data, including text messages, even when a substantial time has elapsed since the arrest.” Justice Kathyrn Mickle Werdegar disagreed, saying it allowed the police,” to rummage at leisure through the wealth of personal and business information that can be carried on a mobile phone or handheld computer merely because the device because the device was taken from an arrestee’s person.”
"Anita Alverez is the chief law enforcement official in Cook County. She can initiate grand jury investigations . . . The proper question is why isn't she starting a GJ instigation?"
Exactly, why didn't the State's Attorney subpoena Vaneko's friends? Although, I don't think Anita was the SA at the time. Now that the statue of limitations has run, it's all crying over spilled milk, so to speak.
The kid didn't get charged with a crime because he didn't commit a crime. Regardless of who he is! all the witnesses at the time said the other kid was the aggressor. REGARDLESS of his size....you are not required get punched in the mouth because you are big!
4/14/2011 01:08:00 PM
The other kid couldn't have punched his killer in the mouth unless the kid was standing on a step ladder. Even if the dead kid came at him, the murderer could have bunted instead of taking a grand slam swing. The murderer is a pos and should be charged and tried.
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this.
Its been that way for YEARS! Look at it this way, you made 3 hrs. Dont sweat the small shit.
(OT) Looks like michelles cousin mike shields is the owner of a "rental section 8 property"that CPD has been called to over 21 times on 97th and Hoyne. Watched fox news at 9 investigation and mike was on he had "no idea" the police were there so many times. dane placko interviewed neighbors and they said they were scared with their kids riding bikes near that crime house. great he wants to be cpd boss and has no clue about what is going on at his own property! Same old same old shit! Rahmbo please choose a current cpd member not any retreaded idiots that are gone!
i would like to know why did they use police officers in the lineup. is there a order stating that you SHOULD NOT USE POLICE IN THE LINEUP
The kid didn't get charged with a crime because he didn't commit a crime. Regardless of who he is! all the witnesses at the time said the other kid was the aggressor. REGARDLESS of his size....you are not required get punched in the mouth because you are big!
4/14/2011 01:08:00 PM
It really boggles the mind that POLICE OFFICERS can't seem to wrap their brains around this simple concept. Instead, the conspiracy theories run rampant. I get it when civilians do this but police officers?!! As a police officer, this is very troublesome.
I hate Daley, he is a liar and a criminal. However this does not change the fact that this case never gets charged in Cook County unless a police officer is involved. The mistake made here was not presenting the case and having charges rejected. The offender obviously is identified or it never have been ccxed. Dump it in the States lap, why should we take the heat.
4/14/2011 01:44:00 PM
UUmmm, because dumping it in some else's lap is the cowardly thing to do. That's what politicians do, not police officers.
The machine needs the weakest of the weak, the feeblest of the feeble minded to be exempts on the CPD because no matter what, these morons will go along with anything the machine wants.
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
4/14/2011 12:42:00 AM
You new brah? Everyone knows this rule. No PC <1 gram for PCS. No PC pretty much 30 to 100grms for weed
4/14/2011 05:46:00 PM said
"11:17 am maybe this is a shit case about a drunken bar brawl at 3 am - but if i was at Mikes on webster and punched a drunk yuppie ,my ass would be in jail now and being released wouldn't look very good"
Agree, but at least at Mike's (may he rest in peace) you had of had to go out the door to find a drunk yuppie asshole to punch.
Exactly, why didn't the State's Attorney subpoena Vaneko's friends? Although, I don't think Anita was the SA at the time. Now that the statue of limitations has run, it's all crying over spilled milk, so to speak.
4/14/2011 08:13:00 PM
It's STATUTE. With a "T". Don't masquerade as law enforcement if you can't even spell the word.
Anonymous said...
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
4/14/2011 12:42:00 AM
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This is NEWS?
Are you kidding me?
This is OLD NEWS if anything.
Judges (or INN KEEPERS) have been doing this at Preliminary Hearings for years...Where have you been?
FINDING PROBABLE CAUSE COSTS $$$$$
Especially findings of GUILTY!
EST. cost on housing SHITHEAD was at one time 35,000.00 a year in IDOC who knows what it cost now?
Go figure and KEEP locking them up for whatever reasons because if your doing it for the OVT. good luck if your doing it to impress or better your career ....your NUTS!
BEST OF LUCK ON THAT ONE!
The kid didn't get charged with a crime because he didn't commit a crime. Regardless of who he is! all the witnesses at the time said the other kid was the aggressor. REGARDLESS of his size....you are not required get punched in the mouth because you are big!
Signed,
The Daley Crime Family
And it's uncommon for retired dicks/coppers to get these CCSAO investigator, etc. etc. post retirement gigs??
REALLY??
Even for already clouted retiring A/3 dicks???
It happens all the time and without shitcanning a MURDER investigation.
You sir/ma'am, are a CLOWN.
Conspiracy theorism usually has psychological origins.
Seek help.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#Psychological_origins
Anonymous said...
You forgot to mention the two dicks that shitcanned the case both got well paying clout jobs after they retired in addition to their police pensions. You sold your soul to shanks at least you parlayed it into a nice spot after retirement.
4/14/2011 12:13:00 AM
He didn't get picked out of a lineup by two other drunken goof's who WENT TO SCHOOL WITH HIM and one was on the same wrestling team with him. CASE CLOSED. THE ASA O'Brien refused charges not the police. The press jags make it sound like the lineup was fixed. For those of you that no nothing about lineups you try to get fillers that fit the same description as the alleged offender so if he get picked the defense attorney has no grounds for a motion to dismiss the lineup.Again CASE CLOSED.
Stop making bullshit drug arrests and the problem is solved. Tac teams now ill have to actually look for real crime.
4/14/2011 08:28:00 AM
So I guess you wouldn't mind some skumming drug adict shooting up with a needle on your front porch or lawn at your house or how about a gang banger drug dealer seeting up shop in front of your house. we watch him sell, grab him and he only has 8 rocks left. I'm sure you wouldn't mind me letting him go so he could come back and sell drugs again on your front lawn at your house where you and your family live. You sir are an idiot.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
i would like to know why did they use police officers in the lineup. is there a order stating that you SHOULD NOT USE POLICE IN THE LINEUP
4/14/2011 10:49:00 PM
They normally use people from the district or area lockups as line-up fill-ins.
The reason they probably had to resort to using P.O.'s as the extras was the fact that there were no 'white people' in the lock-ups to use.
Exactly, why didn't the State's Attorney subpoena Vaneko's friends? Although, I don't think Anita was the SA at the time. Now that the statue of limitations has run, it's all crying over spilled milk, so to speak.
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There is no statute of limitations for any murder related charges including manslaughter. Carol Marin showed her ignorance when she repeatedly reported that.
Now a civil wrongful death suit, that statute of limitations pasted a year after the incident. The plaintiff (victim's mother) may be able to claim that the identity of the defendant (Vanecko) was concealed from her and the fact that the CPD just closed the case this year may help her case. But, the clock is ticking now that the word is out and if she is going to file suit, she had better do so immediately.
Anonymous said...
I can't wait until IL gets concealed carry. The mutts will be killing each other all over the city claiming 'self-defense'. CPD will be able to disband the gun unit!
4/14/2011 05:25:00 PM
Lies and scare tactics. This has not happened in any other city or state that has concealed carry. Liberal BS.
Drug arrests are not a waste of time.
1. it gets shithead dealer off the street for a while
2. it prevents shithead user from breaking into stuff to feed his habit for a while
3. it gives those who are directly affected by shithead user or dealer a break from their bullshit for a while
4. it prevents shithead dealer from engaging in gunplay for a while, because believe it or not every once in a while someone decent gets victimized by said gunplay
5. it prevents shithead user from driving high or doing some other activity that could affect yours or those you love safety
6. it prevents shithead user and dealer from getting pregnant for a while and fucking up some future person's life
7. very imporantly it prevents shithead dealer's criminal organization from amassing more and more money, which could eventually be used to delve into politics and REALLY REALLY fuck up this country even more so than it already is
8. very importantly, it involves a yellow slip of paper
here endeth the lesson
Anonymous said...
Oh goodie, looks like we got a new real winner judge on the bench at branch 48 over at 51st wentworth courthouse. finding no probable cause for any pcs case under 1.0 gram even though there is probable cause (opening yourself to a lawsuit) and now, get this. he's finding no probable cause on any felony weed case between 30 grams and all the way to to around 1/2 lb. search warrant, traffic stop, search incident to arrest, you name it. news media reading? court advacosy program folling cases anymore? another fine example on cook countys judicial system all screwed up.
4/14/2011 12:42:00 AM
Like many have written..it's been that way for a while...keep doing those one bag arrests and let everyone else handle your jobs because you want an arrest...You know who you are..
Anyone actually there when this happened? Didn't think so. Maybe the reason nothing is happening in the case is because nothing criminal happened that night. It wouldn't be the first time that I know of where people wanted to lynch an innocent man....I know the conspiracy theory is the most interesting possibility in this case, but lets be honest drunken fight outside a club smaller guy(napoleon complex) starts a fight with someone else gets ass kicked. Case closed nothing else to it get over it.
Anonymous said...
i would like to know why did they use police officers in the lineup. is there a order stating that you SHOULD NOT USE POLICE IN THE LINEUP
4/14/2011 10:49:00 PM
If you are the polie, look up the order and find the answer yourself. If you are not, then quit blogging you troll!
Daley is retiring from mayor ( not from chicago politics) and is going around for a " good bye tour".People and the media are fawning and drooling over him and standing in line to pat him on the back. Sad isn't it? He leaves a city broken financially, he sold off most of the major assets,left the worst school system in American because they sold out to the teacher's union and turned the school administration into patronage heaven, used patronage to falsify the repair records of the CTA and put little funding or planning into it for the past 25 years which leaves us with a system that barely operates and is slow as hell, a demoralized police department that is undermanned and underutilized, and a city infrastructure that is near collapse. He did leave the highest paid union workforce in the country that no one can get to do much of anything. Yes, thanks Mayor for everything. Oh, forgot, you made your friends and fa mily wealthy. If I forgot anything, let me know.
(OT) Looks like michelles cousin mike shields is the owner of a "rental section 8 property"that CPD has been called to over 21 times on 97th and Hoyne. Watched fox news at 9 investigation and mike was on he had "no idea" the police were there so many times. dane placko interviewed neighbors and they said they were scared with their kids riding bikes near that crime house. great he wants to be cpd boss and has no clue about what is going on at his own property! Same old same old shit! Rahmbo please choose a current cpd member not any retreaded idiots that are gone!
4/14/2011 10:38:00 PM
It's 97th Place and Hoxie (2500 E.).
Agree with the comment about ASA and CPD wanting retirees to keep their mouth shut about this case. I gotta give Yawger kudos for having the stones to give such a candid interview to the newspaper.
If this piece of shit shortshank's nephew were JUST a police officer he would be rotting in prison right now! Now go work really hard for all these assholes who treat us POs like shit!
One thing I don't get about this, Some people take everything the Sun Times have printed about this case as gospel, yet they disregard as lies and cover-ups what your fellow police officers have reported. I thought that most of you hated and did not trust any form of media and respected your fellow police officers.
Alvarez can't charge a Daley- connected nephew with Manslaughter but can charge a CPD Cop with Agg Battery and Official Misconduct for slapping a handcuffed , spitting and cursing arrestee. The blatent corruption here in Crookago-Crook County is truely amazing. All CPD Coppers, keep working hard for your 2% raise, and love your employer and fair working conditions. Wear sunglasses at ALL times on duty, so the surveillance cameras can't see your angry eyes, and you get charged with Assault for looking mean to an offender.
VOTE CONSERVATIVE ALWAYS, END THE LIBERAL BULLSHIT AND SAVE AMERICA
The same elitism and corruption that went on in Crookago forever now goes on daily in the white house.
Did the deceased have any history of starting drunken brawls? Did Vanecko ? Could the deceased actually reah far enough and punch hard enough to injure Vanecko? I don't think so.
him go so he could come back and sell drugs again on your front lawn at your house where you and your family live. You sir are an idiot.
Really - You think you make a difference- I think your smoking something yourself.
What does Obama have to do with some 2004 bullshit? Bush a republican was in office until 2008 He and all his people would have loved to have taken Daley down?
Apparently little Lisa doesn't want the lineup picture of Vanecko, with the Groucho Marx mustache, eyeglasses, false beard and shaved head to show up. Wouldn't want anyone to get the idea he had tried to disguise himself, after all!!!
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