Wysinger?
The competition to become Chicago’s next police superintendent has come down to a three-man race between a veteran Chicago cop and a pair of outsiders, with a final decision possible later this week, City Hall sources said Monday.
The top three are: Newark Police Chief Garry McCarthy; national drug czar R. Gil Kerlikowske and Chicago’s deputy chief-of-detectives Al Wysinger. Mayor-elect Rahm Emanuel was asked Monday whether an outsider can improve the morale problems that dogged career FBI agent Jody Weis.
The Sun Times' Frank Main does half of Rahm's hit job for him with this section of the article:
- The only hitch for McCarthy could be a 2005 disorderly conduct conviction stemming from McCarthy’s attempt to get his daughter out of a parking ticket.
And then completes the picture with this paragraph:
- Wysinger earned his chops on the day in 2007 when he ran down a gunman who shot a woman in a West Side gangway near his grandmother’s 80th birthday party. His appointment would almost certainly play well with the rank-and-file.
Looks like all of Rahm's pieces are coming together just in time for the inauguration.
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posted by SCC at 7:49 AM
114 Comments:
He'll pick whomever the DC Albatross tells him to.
Kerlikowske; because he's heavier than whale shit! And not Wysinger; because Rahm didn't need the Rev's to get elected. The only catch...does the new supt. make 310K (now we're talking Washington type salaries) or does he get shafted back to 180K(Chicago chump change money)?
hopefully it will be wysinger--- if not him then mccarthy--- kerlikowske looks too much like stone face corliss.... watch for it to happen soon, warm weather and possible bulls riot on horizon--- someone has to fall on the sword if the whole city blows up....
How often do you see a District Commander doing street stops or backing you up on a traffic stop. I saw Wysinger do it multiple times in 015. Go Al!
I've been on this job 25 years, and in all that time nothing has really changed. 25 years from now, coppers will still be complaining about the same things, because nothing will change.
See, who the new supe is doesn't matter to me, because I don't do any proactive police work anymore. I answer calls, write paper, and always, always, back up fellow officers. Nobody has ever gotten fired for doing too little work. Think about it.
As long as they don't mess with the medical (try having major surgery with 12 sick days a year), mess with my furlo time, or try to make me take days off without pay, I really don't care anymore.
Let them put Mickey Mouse in the top spot--he'd probably do a better job than anyone the ballerino picks!
Don't forget he received a medal of valor for that act. He exchanged shots with the offender and he missed. Does anyone really believe that he deserved the medal of valor?
If he is selected then I hope things change. One of his top priorities should be to make sure all aggravated batteries to p.o. offenders do time in jail. If we put our hands on a subject unnecessarily then we go to jail. But if they do that to us then it gets downgraded to a misdemeanor.
Wysinger . . . NO WAY ! ! !
He is exactly what is wrong with the police department.
It has been said many times before about this man on this blog:
MERITORIOUSLY PROMOTED ALL THE WAY.
Merit sergeant; 01 August 1998
(SCC has the merit list from then)
Merit Lieutenant in 2002.
Merit Commander in 2005.
Merit Deputy Chief in 2007.
As far as the shooting is concerned, he was sitting on his grandma's porch in 015 when he saw a subject slap his girlfriend. When Wysinger got involved, out came the guns. Wysinger shot up a car and a house. The bad guy was eventually captured.
GOOD POLICE WORK???
YES! Of course.
HOWEVER does one get the Lambert Tree award for this?
HELL NO!!!! Unless you are one straight up heavy weight connected dude who gets 4 merit promotions in just under 9 years.
The media thinks that we are all Kool-aid drinkers and believe old Al is the patrolmen's pal.
Wysinger is NOT a bad guy and he was a good narcotics officer over a decade ago. However he does not have the goods to go on as the leading chief of the second largest police department in the country.
Phil Cline was responsible for all his promotions this far. When he was in 015 Alderman Ike Carothers would be up in his office for hours at a time. However old Ike is busy making license plates for 28 months.
I am not sure who was responsible for him getting the Lambert Tree award. However he has some HEAVY pull. And to be sure it is not from the Rogue Scholars.
What a job!!!!
Wysinger was promoted MERIT 4 times in 9 years and was GIVEN the Lambert Tree award for throwing shots at a domestic battery offender with an UNREGISTERED gun.
Only in the corrupt city of SHIT-GAGO !!!!
Wysinger has been the anointed one for years. He's been pushed along and protected, so everyone saw this coming.
That being said, he should never have taken the Lambert Tree for that shooting. It was an OK shooting at best. To take the highest Department Award for it was terrible. He took it from the copper that deserved it and that won't be forgotten by anyone. He didn't deserve it.
That was a cheap shot against Garry McCarthy. So he got a bit carried away attempting to protect his daughter in Jersey. Blood is thicker than water. No harm no foul. The street cops he worked with in Brooklyn and the Bronx liked and respected McCarthy as a street cop who made good collars and backed up his officers. I worked for him in the 70 pct. Great boss.
After hearing about that nightmare Jody clown, McCarthy would be greatly appreciated by the Chicago PD rank and file. Do some research with the NYPD and Newark across the Hudson. Decent guy that could raise morale by backing his troops.
Maybe the new Supe can look into why a light duty female (TA) from Gang Enforcement gets a take home unmarked car when gas is $5 a gallon? Must be nice, how do I get that gig?
Hey, now! Don't go mess'n with the infallible, almighty, honest Frank Main who will write no story until it is fit to win him a journalistic award! C'mon, Frank Main is the reporter par excellance and he only reports with the utmost care in being impartial and objective. What Frank Main a patsy for Rahm? That's like saying he's a patsy for Shortshanks when it benefits Frank's career.
Disclaimer: Frank Main in nowise compensated me for this endorsement.
Is this the same wysinger who's dad was a boss up until a few years ago? And who was also a p.o., a sgt, and a Lt, withing this last decade? If it is can anyone say clout?? How about a little history of this guy?
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
•Wysinger earned his chops on the day in 2007 when he ran down a gunman who shot a woman in a West Side gangway near his grandmother’s 80th birthday party. His appointment would almost certainly play well with the rank-and-file.
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WRONG!!!
The subject DID NOT shoot anyone. He pointed a gun at his girlfriend and WYSINGER who was sitting on his porch across the street saw it, Wysinger pulled out his gun. The offender then shot AT Wysinger however the dude did not relize Wysinger was the police.
The offender got a 52 year sentence for attempted murder of a police officer anyway.
You think that would happen if you were a NO CLOUT patrolman?
"Earning Chops"? For running down a dude with a gun, let go a couple rounds...????
Well I guess 75% of Patrol (Beat) should be Superintendants too.
Sorry charlie, personality goes a long way, but moving up the ranks by Merit doesn't cut it and too, too many of the Exempts are 'full' of it.
Let's see some test scores, rankings, and some
patrol stats, not letters of recommendation.
There have been a few coppers that have chased down a gunman over the years. Heck, I recently remember a copper in 023 that on-viewed a multiple gang shooting that resulted in a murder. He immediately chased the bad guy down and caught him about a month or two ago. But, that's not news worthy and no one talks about it because the copper just goes about his business. It's our job. But, in this case the story gets brought back to life and used for a promotion. If you are not clouted it doesn't matter what you do on this job. Your work will be forgotten.
Al is a nice guy, hardly ever heard anyone say otherwise.
However, I have two issues with Al.
Al is not the sharpest knife in the drawer and secondly, Al should have never, ever, ever, accepted the lambert Tree Award. He should have been happy with the honorable mention that comes with being nominated and that should have been that.
He cheapened the award for the so many that truly earned and deserved it. It was used as a political toy (no shock there, I know — not in this city or department) and the first chance they get the media runs with it.
There were officers who were shot that year, who actually shot offenders and who were passed over.
Truly sad.
My friends in NYC and Newark say McCarthy's arrogance and demeanor is both his grace and his downfall.
That said, the D/C conviction for interferring with the on duty police would probable get his 30 pending (prob not fired though) NYPD did nothing at all.
HEY NORTHSIDE
What is your take on Wysinger?
A guy that has been "meritorusly" promoted over and over again?
Also, remember he was hired in 1986 when the federal hiring decree was still in order by Federal Judge Prentice Marshall.
He was on the top of the 1986 test with a low score in the 70's.
It's all good? uhhh, right?
If I got locked up for arguing with a weeble wobble meter maid Id be on my ass looking for a new fucking job! They would make an example out of me so fast...yet this guy is not only given the all clear, he is in line to be the fucking superintendent??? HEY...ITS DA CHICAGO WAY!!! what a joke
wysinger.
Westside, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Oh, and by the way, I did not vote for that smartass GP, he was not elected and so I had better not see his smirky ass at the table at the next meeting. Gorman was bad enough.
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P.S. This cocky smile was taught to me by our very own President Mike Shields.
4/26/2011 10:50:00 AM
...you just outted yourself!!! have another scotch and water!
he ran down a gunman, well he is one up from weiss
Wysinger would be great. Known him his entire career. Always was the police. From beat and tac days in 011, his PO, Sgt, & Lt days in Narcotics on up. But if not him, I'd still rather have another CPD guy in charge. If anything was learned from the last debacle, it should've been that the rank and file, myself included, will NEVER accept an outsider. Like it or not. That's just the way it is.
Frank Main has never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
it's Al.....
doesn't play well with me.
Hey great eh?
Another inauguration and another inaugural ball right after where the powers to be can invite all there corporate lobbyist friends to buy them dinner and celebrate their victories.
Right after they can all get back to raising taxes to pay for it while using the teachers and school children as pawns and the unions and pensions as evil demons of the greedy middle class.
Yeah -- hoo-ray for me and "eff" you!
Ya gotta love it.
If only we had a computer system or something to tell us if and when we can get a table-for-four at the thousands of dollars per plate extravaganza!
Sitting on grandma's porch...observes an m/1 shooting at another m/1. Takes a shot at the offender. Offender flees on foot. Victim has a "treated and released" wound. Offender caught by officers responding to the scene. Offender is not injured. This is Lambert Tree worthy? The department gives this award once a year for the most dangerous and heroic action. This is it? He should be ashamed of himself. Obviously his resume was being built. "earned his chops"; who writes this crap?
Al Wysinger is a nice guy. What pisses me off is that he accepted the dept. highest award Lambert Tree medal for something in 015 that would barely earn the unclouted a mere honorable mention.
I hear good things about Gary McCarthy as a standup street cop in NYPD.
I worked in 189 with AW as a patrolman, and everyone liked him, and even as a boss, he would say hello and would ask me how things were going. Some of these other bosses act like they don't know you, even the one piece of shit that I worked on the same tact team with. But my pay will still be the same if Mickey Mouse were the supt.
We had Kerlikowske for 9 years. He brings a lot of baggage like standing down during the Mardi Gras riot. A kid was killed. Also check out what he did to the officer that stopped the jaywalker. He's good at manipulating the media but he speaks promises to the police guild with forked tongue. He was in over his head here in a much smaller dept.
My golden retriever would do a better job than that last guy Weis. Aside from the local guy Wysinger, Garry McCarthy has a good rep from New York City.
Good luck and stay safe.
It would be wise to remember 2 things about this appointment: First, the Mayor is not obligated to accept any of the recommendations. If he does not the Board submits 3 more.
This can, and Has, gone of for more than one roung. Second, it is important to choose carefully because a Mayor may not arbitratily fire a Superintendent appointed by that Mayor. Dismissal requires cause, and acction by the Police Board.
This may not be a done deal yet/
All hail future Superintendent McCarthy!
We love a leader with an oversized head, anger issues, and major metropolitan police experience!
Seriously, if you delve into the potato soaked mud of McCarthy's background and personality you find a real asshole. An Irish asshole, but an asshole nonetheless.
NYPD does a whole lot of things right, but the culture of favoritism regarding police family members there is out of control. McCarthy seems to have drunk deeply from the well on that one.
They have a ticket fixing scandal going on right now that involves over 400 cops. Apparently the NYPD had an officer in each precinct whose basic job was to fix tickets for cops, family members, friends and perhaps most importantly the politically connected. Here we have the Reverends, there they are as likely to suck up to the Rabbis.
McCarthy has also had other alcohol fueled incidents earlier in his career.
Nope, give me Wysinger. He knows the department. Sure he lacks the oversized head and pale skin of my group, but I'll get over it. I'll just have to invite him to an Emerald Society Function and make him an honorary member.
Wysinger also understands the basic tenet of policing. You run TOWARDS the gunfire.
I suspect McCarthy understands that, but given his ego he might on being driven the half block before he got out of his car to confront the evil doer.
He got it, he got the right "rev cred" nothing to see here move along for the glory hound!!
Wysinger is a intelligence fair and thoughtful leader, who I believe is the best choice of the three!!! Has we ever had a Superintendent who has been award with the Carter Harrison/Lambert Tree Award!!!
If Wysinger gets the spot, it is proof positive that the players haven't changed one bit....as if we didn't already know that.
Wysinger? I don't get it. Rahm must like him cuz he never says a word, he'll be the next puppet.
"The only hitch for McCarthy could be a 2005 disorderly conduct conviction stemming from McCarthy’s attempt to get his daughter out of a parking ticket."
You can read about that incident and more, below:
NYPD's blog, Thee Rant, has a post up on their former #3 Dep. Commissioner Garry McCarthy.
Check out the comment from luigitheDI (the 6th post down). Its long but really points out why we wouldn't want McCarthy here!
http://theerant.yuku.com/topic/40568/finalist-for-CPD-police-commissioner
Knew Wysinger back when he worked in Narcotics. I'm not sure about all the fuss over his Lambert Tree award, but I can tell you the man worked very hard when he was in the unit. He knows the streets very well is a well-liked man. He and a guy named Tulley did some great work years ago. Definitely a good choice for Supt.
Wysinger is a Prince. Street, OCD, Detective Division in every rank, a Gentleman, and doesn't play the race card. He would be a welcome breath of fresh air.
I will be so so dissappointed if Al Wysinger gets the job, but he will. He is not a smart man and will be easily controlled by Rahm. Many political favors will be returned through exempt placement straight from City Hall. McCarthy would be independent in a way Weis wasn't, because unlike Weis McCarthy actually knows how to run a police department and wouldn't be a puppet. We will be stuck with another Starks clone who wants to be flashy, have someone hold his coat and open all his doors.
Wysinger is the police, and also a gentleman. We could do alot worse.
word on wysinger?
If Wysinger gets in patrol officers need not apply for the Lambert Tree award. He used his alderman friends to get it for some BS shooting when street cops were nominated for actual police work. I guess the take home car, cushy no brain job and $150,000 a year wasn't enough-he needed to accept the top department award over the working police officers so he could add to his already enormous ego. Wysinger needs to answer-why did he accept the award over officers who faced armed gunmen? Who shot the bystander that was hit? Is it appropriate for gold stars with political influence on City Council to allow themselves to be candidates for an award voted on by City Council? If I was at my grandma's house and fired my gun at someone who was shooting at some unknown person and then some uninvolved party got shot, would I win the Award of Valor and Lambert Tree Award over the numerous cops who actually faced an offender who was aiming a gun at me?
I was at a friends workplace and saw a saying on the wall that explained to me just why JFled was such a horrible boss. It said
You never send your men any place that you won't go yourself!
If you're capable, then you go!
If it requires more then one man, then you go first!
If you don't have the courage to lead the way, then you shouldn't be in the job of a leader.....
JFLed was never a leader because he was afraid to do what he wanted others to do. Hopefully the next Sup will lead by example.
I do not know Wysinger, I retired eight years ago and never heard of the man. But, with two of the finest candidates in the country to be finalists along side Wysinger, I cannot see why he would be selected. His skills and experience pales in comparison. I wish the best for the CPD, I still love it and think of it every day. I also wish for the cycle of patronage and merit selections to be broken and I just cannot see this happening with the selection of an insider at this time. Daley drove the department into the ground the past 20 years and it will take some time to bring it back. My career is over, but I can only hope that those that have come after me respect the department and always strive to make it better.You took an oath and must keep that oath despite the obstacles put in your path by our corrupt leaders.Almost 100 Chicago Police officers were killed in the line of duty during my 34 years of service. I knew many of them and worked with many of them. I also think of them often. I also hope that the current officers be given something most of my generation never had, a fair chance at promotions and assignments, no matter what your race or sex. That alone would go a long way in bringing back morale. The department needs a real leader and I have not seen one since Fred Rice and Brezeck. Every superintendent appointed by Daley sold out completely to city hall and changed nothing that would hurt the democratic organization. Maybe an honest, competent outsider who has led other major police organizations can truely bring about the change needed. Inmy opinion, an insider who has been brought up in the corrupt political system that Daley created just cannot fit the bill. Merit promotions have completely taken over the Department and allowed many connected, but incompetant people to rise in the ranks.Wysinger might be ready in 3-4 years, but not now. Where are the OW Wilsons when we need them?
McCarthy or Wysinger, either way we're better off. At least these two know what the job is all about. And will be able to relate to the rank and file. I don't know too much about Wysinger but when he was in 15 he was at roll call every Friday and then hit the streets. Whoever it is he can't let the bullshit revruns and criminal aldermen dictate policy, stick it in their asses.
They read this web log. Every day. They know that --
A. They can't risk a "K-Fed."
B. We don't want an East Coast burnout.
C. We want someone from the ranks, someone who knows the city.
I mean, what else is there to say?
"Wysinger earned his chops on the day in 2007 when he ran down a gunman who shot a woman in a West Side gangway near his grandmother’s 80th birthday party." He's the diametric opposite of Jody Weis, at least in that respect.
Al Wysinger is a good man. He won't hurt anyone. Al will even work hard to make thing better than they have been. The people who disagree either do not really know him or are dog asses anyway. God knows we have plenty of dog asses in this department. It's to bad we only get to hear from them on this website.
At least it isn't Kirby.
OT... you should hear how the dispatchers talk about you guys when the mic is off. Like they know your job better than you. Just heard one scream out from across the room that a car in 21 was a fucking retard... they all think they are so superior to everyone.
Last thing we need is a "drug czar". Czars have massive egos and insane daily requirments of publicity. They're likely to be all about themselves.
And after two decades of "I used to be State's Atty" Daley, who never saw a drug crime he didn't want to punish, we don't need another guy who thinks that society's salvation will come of spending massive police, judicial, prosecutorial and penal resources on stupid drug crimes.
So I vote Wysinger. Not that I get a vote . . . .
At this point the dept is so far gone, that its not really important to me who is the next boss, although someone from chicago would seem to make sense. Right now, the main worry of all of us, regardless of time on the j.o.b. should be our pension. Its not my fault that the city didn't pay in their share when the economy was booming. So its not fair that the city can now cry poor and threaten our rightful, LAWFUL pension. This should be our focus at this particular time.
Part 2.
So let me end with this: I can speak as an individual who has worked with Wysinger in several different units, both as an equal and as a subordinate. He is the kind of boss that you would want to work for. His primary focus is the street officer, not just the guys who work the specialized units. He's been there and done that on ALL levels and he, to his credit, has remained the same guy. He does not grandstand, he does not seek notoriety and first and foremost - he is the REAL police. The guy is courageous (as in balls to the wall) and he doesn't believe in cutting slack to mopes out there who disrespect the police. When you add in his intelligence, has savvy as a supervisor, his experience in actually working in line units and specialized units, anyone would come to the same conclusion that this guy could pull this organization together. He may seem soft spoken, but his manner is direct and thoughtful. He can make his intentions and order known without much difficulty, but he refuses to do so in a manner that denigrates his subordinates. If he were to become Superintendent we would see a marked change in the way things are done. If he were to assemble a competent staff without undue influence from Rahm, we would be well on our way to rebuilding the Department to not just what it once was, but into something much, much better.
We have suffered a lot over the past several years, and not just in regard to our line-of-duty losses and violent deaths of officers at the hands of these criminals. We have had to watch our proud department become the punchline of media jokes and public derision because a few of us were not meant to wear the uniform in the first place, and at the same time, our "superintendent" did little to defend or support us.
I can assure you, Deputy Chief Alfonsa Wysinger will set it right because of the fact that he has had his ass-in-the-grass and knows what it means to be The Real Police.
SO ANY ONE WHO SHOOTS AT SOMEONE AND MISSES IS LEGIT?
ALL THE COLLEGE GRADS IN THIS DEPARTMENT AND WYSINGER IS THE BEST?
MAY BE THE CITY SHOULD GET RID OF PAYING OFFICERS TUITION IF WE CANT COME UP WITH ANY GREAT CANDIDATES.
Wysinger would be pretty good pick. don't know much about the other two dudes but AL W is a good and competent man. Likes the working police and has been one himself. Always fair and humble. Would be nice to have a Sup from within. Please not another FED
8th Ward Alderman Michelle Harris, chairman of the City Council Police and Fire Committee, was looking all giggly and pleased with herself on TV last night, swearing up and down that she just had no idea who the next Superintendent would be...
"When Cook County Board President John H. Stroger Jr. retired after a stroke left him bedridden. Stroger's son Todd, an alderman, replaced his father on the fall ballot and won the presidency.
"Todd Stroger's City Council seat? Daley appointed Michelle A. Harris, a niece of the late Alderman Lorraine Dixon."
http://articles.latimes.
com/2007/feb/11/nation/
na-dynasty11
"In January, Mayor Richard M. Daley quietly appointed Harris to the police and fire committee, replacing Ald. Anthony Beale (9th), who strongly supported shifting police resources from low-crime areas to high-crime areas.
"The week prior to Daley’s committee shakeup, mayoral contender Rahm Emanuel criticized reallocating police."
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/new-police-chair-not-sold-on-police-reallocation/
Incest is cleaner and more straightforward. Here, you open the door, and there's hundreds of them in there in one great big pile. God, the maneuvering.
These people give me a powerful impulse to cover my eyes and retch.
I really don't care much about for the outsider for now, I just want somebody from within the department. Home grown . . . . anybody is fine, I'll take it. Can't say anything negative for Wysinger, has an encounter with him before a very decent person.
This Wysinger NEVER passed a promotional test yet . . .
. . . Yeah, the rank and file are backing this political HACK.
Wake up media
HOLY CRAP !!!!
Not only has this Wysinger gotten EVERY promotion as a meritorious one. . .
SO IS HIS WIFE A MERIT SERGEANT!!
Does anyone know if this guy owns a dog? The dog probably got a merit promotion also!!!!
Since we are all supposed to be democrats in the Richie Daley/Rahm Emanuel's Chicago why not have IAD check voting records for dis-loyal party members. This would be supported by Obama Administration and his rat-asshole friends. I am sure the "comrades at 35th St. would go along and it would make way for 20 years for communist rule in Chicago and the nation.
OK, so Obama flew in here from Washington to launch his 2012 reelection bid on the Oprah Winfrey Show, displaying a "birth certificate" -- something is seriously wrong here -- and the taxpayers pay full boat for the whole thing.
Does that mean that Obama's going-away present to Mayor Daley of "an 1834 survey of Chicago from the National Archives" was legal? He was filmed handing the framed document over and shaking hands.
Isn't that the public's property? Why not just take Charles Lindbergh's plane down from where it hangs in the Smithsonian and give it to the Premier of China the next time he comes here to take more jobs?
There's a gift shop at O'Hare. Someone please secure the area so the Obamas can buy cufflinks for people or something.
What a town.
Great guy!
they finally got it right
FLASH--
CARDINAL GEORGE HAS SUSPENDED FR. MICHAEL PFLEGER AS PASTOR OF ST. SABINA'S
...after 30 years of s__t.
Thank God for spring cleaning.
Good for Wysinger, maybe he can put himself in for another award.
Its always nice to see those hard working exempt staff putting themselves in for all the nice awards but when a lowly beat cop tries to get some recognition from the awards committee they get put through the wringer.
This guy is just another typical self promoting exempt. Nothing will change, Downtown EB will still be in charge of patrol.
It's all a scam anyway. Rwmember, they're Democrats, it ain't legit.
Phather Phucker of St. Sabina got dumped...is he the new dark horse supernintendo candidate?
Doty did it in 006 and 021 all the time but he never got any love on here. Big Deal, what will he do for us? McCarthy is proven leadership and Fat Phil borrowed most of his ideas to get the job and nudge him out. We need the real police to run this place not a merit mope or a czar.
Bklyn North said...
That was a cheap shot against Garry McCarthy. So he got a bit carried away attempting to protect his daughter in Jersey. Blood is thicker than water. No harm no foul. The street cops he worked with in Brooklyn and the Bronx liked and respected McCarthy as a street cop who made good collars and backed up his officers. I worked for him in the 70 pct. Great boss.
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You cannot be serious. Any copper who interferes with other coppers doing their jobs is an asshole. That was a case of, 'You can't ticket me--don't you know who I am?'
We get enough shit from the public. He'll get no respect from me.
It seems young Wysinger was looked after, groomed and tended to... From a P.O. to a Deputy Chief in 10 years?? O_o ??
Clout through and through.
As far as getting the Lambert Tree for exchanging gunfire with a mutt?
He should have gotten the Blue Shirt Special... A half assed Honorable Mention flipped grudgingly & dismissively into his lap by a shit-eyed boss at roll-call... Dressed in a Department Mailing envelope with a size 12 boot print on it...
Not that we begrudge the man anything but it seems he's a favored son of the 27th, 28th & 29th Wards and the runnin' dog rev'runs in and about these areas.
dteb, their point man, has been quiet too... At least all the back door propaganda touting him as the favorite has ceased. That shit was just plain obnoxious and they know it. Too much bad ju-ju and too much baggage. Too much potential for too many "impotant" people ending up on the 10 o'clock news being perp walked and looking like they shit on themselves if dteb steps on his & his clout's dick.
Not so much if, but when.
("silence is golden ya ol' muddafuggah, so get rich!")
According to realpolitik, 9.5 doesn't owe the runnin' dogs shit and they know it. Which is why they've been nursing a BIG sippy cup of STFU as of late.
OT... you should hear how the dispatchers talk about you guys when the mic is off. Like they know your job better than you. Just heard one scream out from across the room that a car in 21 was a fucking retard... they all think they are so superior to everyone.
4/27/2011 02:28:00 PM
The dispatchers on zone 5 calling anyone a retard is beyond laughable. With the exception of one or two they have to be the most ignorant, terrible dispatchers in OEMC. The biggest problem with these dispatchers is that they now have no idea what's going on in the streets. They don't know our jobs at all. They should have to do a few months of ride alongs. I don't know why the hell we even refer to them as "squad" anymore.
I talked to an old school copper who recently retired. She had something like 30 something years on. She told me a bunch of stories about buying dope and Al saving her life. I have nothing to say about him because I never met him.
@4/27/2011 08:21:00 AM
My previous District Commander in 024 (Bruce Rottner) nailed three dudes in a car on Howard Street with an illegal 1911 .45 under the driver's seat. Oh, and he still made it to the outdoor roll call a few minutes later.
Cool huh?
I attended NU Traffic Institute School of Police Staff & Command with Al Wysinger back in 2001. Granted, sitting next to a guy every day for 10 weeks is not the same as working with (or for) someone, but still--he made a good impression and seemed like a decent man and a good cop. I was glad to see his name in consideration and wish him the best.
My golden retriever would do a better job than that last guy Weis. Aside from the local guy Wysinger, Garry McCarthy has a good rep from New York City.
Good luck and stay safe.
4/27/2011 11:03:00 AM
Plus your golden retriever would save 330,000$ a year.
Wysinger is a intelligence fair and thoughtful leader, who I believe is the best choice of the three!!! Has we ever had a Superintendent who has been award with the Carter Harrison/Lambert Tree Award!!!
4/27/2011 11:28:00 AM
Again please; this time in standard American English.
Al is a prince of a man, I'd take a working cop/boss any day of the week. It kills me that an outsider is even considered to be the top cop in the world's second largest pd in the world, aren't lieutenants of ours about the equivalent of a Chief or higher in any other department, duh? Coppers retire from the CPD and become heads of departments or do pretty well in private industry. This is backwards. Al is from our fabric, if you haven't felt the wrath of Tero or Frost from 1300 W. Jackson, be involved in a 10-1 in the "hole" on 53rd and Federal or walked a dark alley on the Westside or Englewood.....you CANNOT command the checkerboarded troops of the mighty Chicago Police Department, we breed our own. PROMOTE FROM WITHIN!!!!
I worked with Al-- nice man. I would recommend him as the top of the 3 candidates.
old retired guy
My previous District Commander in 024 (Bruce Rottner)
Rottner get off the lies- Your the guy Who live outside the city, but had enough clout the Dept didn't care anyone care to tell us about how this really happened.
nope, its gonna be gil from washington. There is a reason rahm went to washington two weeks ago and met with obama. Its not just a coincidence. Chicago is obamas city and he needs to control it. He will have rahm in his pocket and now the supt of police in his pocket. Chicago is obamas re election hq again and in order for everything he needs to be done to help him he will put his people in where they need to be.
what's all the fuss about? for god's sake, we just had weis...anything from within is BETTER!
No one cares what any of us think.
Seriously.
NO ONE.
Al as #1, Juan Rivera as 1st Deputy. Many of these "created " spots, GONE.
The REAL police, back in charge, like it should have been before the debacle and complete collapse of the last 3 years!
I have to agree with a previous poster, we breed our own! Why does the Mayor have to live in the city to be elected but the Police Superintendent doesn't? We need a leader that understands us, and by that I mean grew up here, has family here and cares about the Department and the people in it and the City! An outsider comes here to WORK, not live! I had a ring side seat to the "outsider" experiment and it did not work because of an outsider with an oversized EGO who was fed by a "wannabe" and neither one cared about the Department or the people, they cared about money and status. At least Al would care and he knows the people of the Department and the people I. This City which is a better start than any outsider, no matter how much experience he has. We need someone to lead who has a vested interest in this city, not someone looking to pad his career!
Wysinger is a intelligence fair and thoughtful leader, who I believe is the best choice of the three!!! Has we ever had a Superintendent who has been award with the Carter Harrison/Lambert Tree Award!!!
4/27/2011 11:28:00 AM
i hope this was intended as parody.
Plus your golden retriever would save 330,000$ a year.
4/27/2011 08:50:00 PM
uh, not so fast there, pardner, you forget about his agent's fee.
Has we ever had a Superintendent who has been award with the Carter Harrison/Lambert Tree Award!!!
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HAVE we ever? I don't know but WYSINGER did not deserve the Lambert Tree award. he cheapened it. its kinda like the Medal of Honor and should only be considered for people that truly deserve it.
While working midnights in 006 had a b.s. call at 87th and state, Wysinger actually got out of his car while it was raining to make sure things were good. Have to respect a boss that works with his troops.
Just to clear a few things up..
1. Commander and Deputy Chief are appointed positions, not merit, i.e. there is no test for these positions.
2. Al Wysinger is not only intelligent, but a class act.
3. If he were not a minority and was meritoriously promoted twice, there would not be so many negative comments.
4. Phil Cline has meritoriously promoted several useless, arrogant, never done a day of police work in their life idiots, ( I have worked for a few of them)
but Al Wysinger is not one of them. He is and always will be the police.
Emanuel's "nationwide search" is just another dog and pony show with two "outsiders" as window dressing.
Alfonsa Wysinger is a nice guy and a streetwise cop. However, Rahm will pick him as a puppet who will be easy to control. Al certainly is not the sharpest knife in the CPD drawer.
It was shameful that Al actually accepted the Lambert Tree award for that off-duty farce in the 15th Dist.
It's also amazing that Gary McCarthy took the CPD bait twice. Daley used him as a finalist shill in 2003. You would think that McCarthy would have learned the rigged Chicago Way.
The fact is that just about anyone would be a much better choice than J-Fled. Shortshanks picked him just to get the USDOJ off his back.
Let's just hope and pray that Wysinger remains a class act and doesn't sell his soul to Rahmbo.
Why not MERITORIOUSLY promote Wysinger to superintendent?
All his other promotions were that way...
Qualified, real police need not apply. YOu are not eligilble for the Lambert Tree.
If I was nominated for that award now I would respectfully decline, it has been cheapened by this political puppet.
WAY TO GO AL, YOU ARE THE BEST POLICEMAN EVER!!! I'M SURE YOU WILL FIX THE OF DAMAGE JPUD and 3M
Off Topic:
Nice to the church doesn't put up with Chicago BULLSHIT.......
Citing what he called threats from the Rev. Michael Pfleger to leave the church, Cardinal Francis George has removed the priest from the St. Sabina parish and has suspended his "sacramental faculties as a priest."
Leave the outsiders OUTSIDE! Rahm beat the system with his "intentions" concerning residency, so he is also an "outsider" so he could care less about how we feel about him bringing in another "outsider". CPS got one, so will the CPD. Al Wysinger is the best choice of the three, but when has "doing the right thing" pertained to the police department.....In the words of the "gloved one" (RIP) "all I wanna say is they don't really care about us". Move along kid, there's nothing here to see...We lose.....again. Go Bulls!
Al Wysinger would be an excellent choice for the Supt. He is a great Boss who knows the job. Al can be looked on as a stickler for the rules but knows B.S. when he sees it, from the troops and the public. His integrity is beyond approach. If Mayor Emmanuel gets it right, Wysinger will be the next Supt.
what's all the fuss about? for god's sake, we just had weis...anything from within is BETTER!
4/27/2011 09:32:00 PM
Barb West.
Enough said.
Bunch of negative comments. Jeez.
Just somebody please answer one thing, will Al side with people like downtown brown or kirby or williams or skull?
.... Heck, I recently remember a copper in 023 that on-viewed a multiple gang shooting that resulted in a murder. He immediately chased the bad guy down and caught him about a month or two ago.
That must of been a really long chase...Can't believe a supervisor didn't call that one off...
How often do you see a District Commander doing street stops or backing you up on a traffic stop. I saw Wysinger do it multiple times in 015. Go Al!
4/27/2011 08:21:00 AM
Jimmy Jackson did it all the time while in 011
Anonymous said...
OT... you should hear how the dispatchers talk about you guys when the mic is off. Like they know your job better than you. Just heard one scream out from across the room that a car in 21 was a fucking retard... they all think they are so superior to everyone.
"Those who can, do.... Those who can't, dispatch." Famous quote I once read.....
4/27/2011 02:28:00 PM
We already know whoever rahmbo wants is already been told and it is a "done deal"! We could do better and much worse than Al if he is the pick,would another outsider be better? The pool of insiders really is a sad bunch, all of them overpaid exempts!
Doty did it in 006 and 021 all the time but he never got any love on here. Big Deal, what will he do for us? McCarthy is proven leadership and Fat Phil borrowed most of his ideas to get the job and nudge him out. We need the real police to run this place not a merit mope or a czar.
Doty's name shouldn't be mentioned on this blog or any other. A self-centered miserable son of a bitch if ever there was one among the exempt ranks. He was a pitiful commander of 006, and even moreso of 021. the best thing that could have happened to his career was when he was forced out of the CPD by Brust. To make matters worse, I hear that he's made a complete shambles of the University of Chicago Police Dept. as their second in command, hated by just about all. Mass grievances filed on him, so many that now officers are winning back their 3 day suspensions given to them by Doty in droves.
Word over there is that Doty and the Chief of the UCPD will likely both be unemployed in the near future, with the heads of that university extremely unhappy with the universal drop in morale throughout that entire dept. by the sworn and civilians alike. I worked for Doty in 006 before I retired two years ago, and I can honestly say he is by far the worst example of clout and meritorious promotions run amuck. Good riddance to that micro managing asshole.
AW should be without a doubt be the top choice for SUP (in my mind). Just an upstanding person, and more importantly, an outstanding officer. The merit promotions only mean that someone (or more than one) was paying attention to an officer that deserved to be promoted.
Mark my words. It will be a female superintendent. Nobody who's name has even been mentioned.
Anonymous said...
Bklyn North said...
That was a cheap shot against Garry McCarthy. So he got a bit carried away attempting to protect his daughter in Jersey. Blood is thicker than water. No harm no foul. The street cops he worked with in Brooklyn and the Bronx liked and respected McCarthy as a street cop who made good collars and backed up his officers. I worked for him in the 70 pct. Great boss.
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You cannot be serious. Any copper who interferes with other coppers doing their jobs is an asshole. That was a case of, 'You can't ticket me--don't you know who I am?'
We get enough shit from the public. He'll get no respect from me.
signed,
The Belmont Beret
"My previous District Commander in 024 (Bruce Rottner) nailed three dudes in a car on Howard Street with an illegal 1911 .45 under the driver's seat. Oh, and he still made it to the outdoor roll call a few minutes later."
wow a UUW arrest??? Please tell us more.
I am white, male and have passed two promotional and been promoted off the same. I have no idea how Wysinger made his rank, nor do I really care. What I do know is for the very brief time he was in 007 he made an excellent impression on myself and others. He was a gentleman and more importantly he was a policeman.
We need a person in the Sup's chair who has actually worked the streets and who is not a condescending elitist. I guarantee Al is a man who wants what us best for the cop on the street. Do we really need another egomanical blowhard mugging for the press and calling up Roe Conn for a reach around every time he goes potty all by himself?
Let's keep it in house. Of course he's connected, any pick is gonna be...... but at least he's on our side.
Wysinger is a Prince and a Gentleman, that's why we won't get'em.
We can pray, but the ballerhambo won't do anything to make us happy, and he needs someone who's leash is short so he can reign him in when he needs to.
Al is not that kinda guy, he is the Police and not just a figurehead.
Curlycowski can not be the next supt. Over half of the meritoriously promoted staff of supervisors can barely spell To-From. They'd need to get tutors just to spell his name. Had he been the supt. last week, there would have no reprimands at all.
We like them today but when one of them gets made I can't wait til we shove him into the meat grinder!
Anonymous said...
OT... you should hear how the dispatchers talk about you guys when the mic is off. Like they know your job better than you. Just heard one scream out from across the room that a car in 21 was a fucking retard... they all think they are so superior to everyone.
They sshould hear what we say about them.....
"...you should hear how the dispatchers talk about you guys when the mic is off. Like they know your job better than you. Just heard one scream out from across the room that a car in 21 was a fucking retard... they all think they are so superior to everyone."
This is common among the ignorant in all fields, people who've been boosted into their seats for other reasons than initiative or competence. You can expect them to gather together in smug little groups, laughing at the people who hired them.
"I sells the such-and-such telephone system for offices. Naw, naw, I don't do any of that manual labor. I don't bother myself with none of that foolishness. I got me a [racial reference] man to crawl around on the floor with all that nonsense, hyuk, hyuk."
All I can say is watch what you put out to impress your girlfriend over the office telephone systems you sell -- especially when you don't know one end of a screwdriver from another. The technician doing the "manual labor," crawling around there with his "butt set" clipped in, can hear you. This can result in "scheduling problems," important parts having to be "back-ordered," etc.
Oops.
Just another little example...
T/A doesn not have a take home car my friend, trust me!
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