Police Shooting North
One person was wounded this morning in a police-involved shooting on the Northwest Side in the city's Hermosa neighborhood.
According to a preliminary report released by the police department Office of News Affairs, Grand Central Gang Enforcement Unit officers were working in the area of Keeler and Armitage avenues about 1:15 a.m. when they saw a male individual point a handgun from a vehicle in the direction of another group of people.
The individual drove off but was later stopped on the 2000 block of North Kostner Avenue, police said. The suspect then exited the vehicle and pointed a handgun at the officers, police said.
The suspect fled the scene and the officers chased him on foot into a yard. Soon after, the suspect again pointed a weapon at the officers, police said. Officers then opened fire, striking the suspect. A weapon was recovered from the scene, police said.
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posted by SCC at 9:01 AM
53 Comments:
Hermosa? I remember when we knew our neighborhood simply as "St. Philomenas". A middle class Austrian hamlet that was home to a Gemini astronaut, Schwinn Bicycles, a church pastor who was a real, live, cousin of Lou Gerhig, and where all of my frinds had two parents living at home. Hermosa? Gee, times have changed.
Great job by officers and A5 dets. NS and RG are handsome men! Good hair
Nice job officer!!!!
Police said police said police said police said police said.........
will our new Superintendent McCarthy wear his uniform baseball cap backwards to fit in with our young brylcreme kids
not 1 supervisor in patrol will correct this BS and they all make over $100K ,CPD needs new standards for supervisors
Be safe, Hell season is now in session. Remember your 2% raise. Payback is a bitch.
Glad the good guys are ok.
Sorry, OT
Pension info:
Delegates' intentions
Kinney and Green talked about the intentions behind the clause during floor debate, Madiar wrote.
“Benefits not being diminished really refers to this situation: If a police officer accepted employment under a provision where he was entitled to retire at two-thirds of his salary after 20 years of service, that could not be subsequently changed to say he was entitled to one-third of his salary after 30 years of service, or perhaps entitled to nothing,” Kinney said.
“[I]f you mandate the public employees in the state of Illinois to put in their 5 percent or 8 percent or whatever it may be monthly, and you say when you employ these people, ‘Now if you do this, when you reach 65, you will receive $287 a month,’ that is in fact what you will get,” Green said.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/4bdfj6g
Just got a statement from Madigan/Cross: No pension vote until veto session in the fal
I worked in 025 the night of the shooting. First of all, I would like to say the officer did a good job of shooting the offender. Second of all (and this applies to a lot of police officers), usually when a p.o. gets into a foot chase he doesn't know where he is at! Now that is pretty stupid and incompetent.
I have heard foot chases in 025, 015, and other districts I worked in and usually (about 75% of the time) the officer can't say over the air WHERE HE IS AT AND WHERE HE IS GOING.
Now the sad part is that learning all of the different streets and each specific beat map with precise details isn't that hard. All you have to do us study the district map and each individual beat map for about 20 minutes a day for four to six weeks.
I am not criticizing anyone specifically and please don't take what I am saying the wrong way.
off topic but a few good things today happened down in springfield... first a chicago casino and slots at the airports have been approved!!!!! A chicago casino would leave the city helpless when it comes to negotiating our contracts... they can no longer cry broke. proceeds from a casino are a HUGE part of our contract talks when it comes to pay... Second, the pension changes have failed and were dropped by state lawmakers today leaving three tier pension system in the dust.... so a few good bits of news. If this chicago casino works out it could mean a ton of money for the city and possibly the city will get out of debt finally... a great thing for all of us city workers. more money equals more pay, more funded pensions and more money to hire officers and buy equipment.
Good work boys!
Hermosa? I remember when we knew our neighborhood simply as "St. Philomenas". A middle class Austrian hamlet that was home to a Gemini astronaut, Schwinn Bicycles, a church pastor who was a real, live, cousin of Lou Gerhig, and where all of my frinds had two parents living at home. Hermosa? Gee, times have changed.
5/30/2011 09:31:00 AM
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I hear you. Memorial Day in Jeff Park: Three American flags on the entire block. Damn Daley and the Democratic Machine. They did this.
Was Leo out there with his dumb commander hat on?
www.worldwartwohrs.org
Honor our vets.
To bad McCarthy is disbanding GEU like he did to TRU and MSF. No one will be left to run around out there looking to lock anyone up. Who cares? Let the savages run free! The thanks you get for doing good work is a dump to A/2 while the bosses and there kids get taken care of. I don't mind pushing a beat car but the current list of exempts running patrol division makes it a hard place to work, starting at the top with DTEB.
Hermosa? I remember when we knew our neighborhood simply as "St. Philomenas".
I remember it as Hermosa Park. Maybe because I'm not Catholic. The shooting happened right around the corner from Radioland Liquors, now a currency exchange.
When will these dopes learn that trying to get away from us by either pointing or shooting a gun at us just has a bad conclusion for them? They might injure or do worse to one of us but the outcome is always worse for them. Jail or dead.
Hermosa? I remember when we knew our neighborhood simply as "St. Philomenas". A middle class Austrian hamlet that was home to a Gemini astronaut, Schwinn Bicycles, a church pastor who was a real, live, cousin of Lou Gerhig, and where all of my frinds had two parents living at home. Hermosa? Gee, times have changed.
5/30/2011 09:31:00 AM
Walt Disney was born in the house on the southwest corner of Palmer & Tripp.
That dude from the insurance commercial was at the lake front today. Guess getting rid of summer mobile was a great idea.
I worked in 025 the night of the shooting. First of all, I would like to say the officer did a good job of shooting the offender. Second of all (and this applies to a lot of police officers), usually when a p.o. gets into a foot chase he doesn't know where he is at! Now that is pretty stupid and incompetent.
I have heard foot chases in 025, 015, and other districts I worked in and usually (about 75% of the time) the officer can't say over the air WHERE HE IS AT AND WHERE HE IS GOING.
Now the sad part is that learning all of the different streets and each specific beat map with precise details isn't that hard. All you have to do us study the district map and each individual beat map for about 20 minutes a day for four to six weeks.
I am not criticizing anyone specifically and please don't take what I am saying the wrong way.
5/30/2011 03:53:00 PM
Someone had to say it... I've had a couple of partners almost get me killed because they didn't know where we were at. Most people don't even know their own beats let alone other beats...
Hermosa? I remember when we knew our neighborhood simply as "St. Philomenas". A middle class Austrian hamlet that was home to a Gemini astronaut, Schwinn Bicycles, a church pastor who was a real, live, cousin of Lou Gerhig, and where all of my frinds had two parents living at home. Hermosa? Gee, times have changed.
5/30/2011 09:31:00 AM
Walt Disney was born in the house on the southwest corner of Palmer & Tripp.
5/30/2011 06:37:00 PM
I hope you are not kidding about Walt Disney, because now I am going to make it a point to see it. For real?
The Walt Disney story is true. I grew up right across the street from where he lived. He actually drew a portrait of Mickey Mouse and gave it to the principal of Nixon Elementary school which I attended. It used to hang in his office till someone stole it.
The department make no sense. I got awarded the superintendent's award of valor and 12 days for the same shooting incident. Even the IPRA investigator said I violates no rules or regulations, but the "spirit of the rules". Watch out sarge.
5/28/2011 10:23:00 PM
Never except an award from this department. It is an issue that comes up in every civil suit for a police shooting. Besides, it is embarrassing to wear awards given by this department. It puts you in the same company as the political hacks who run this shit hole and wear the same.
I recently threw a DC in the trash at roll call. It felt good. I want nothing more than my pay from these whores.
I am not criticizing anyone specifically and please don't take what I am saying the wrong way.
5/30/2011 03:53:00 PM
Guess what...it is taken the wrong way. Next time think twice about posting critical comments in a shooting post.
Glad all are safe.
Don't take what I say the wrong way..... 1. you weren't there 2. you weren't chasing a guy with a gun 3. you did not have an adrenalin rush 4. they are geu, they have to know all the districts, not just one like yourself 5. have another fruity cocktail and enjoy your monday morning chair 6. you may have the best intentions, but you come across as a dick
Just this second came in the door and WBBM Radio is reporting that North Avenue Beach is closed "due to heat-related issues."
"Don't go there," they elaborated.
Uh -- do we look stupid or something?
What the hell is going on down there -- as if we didn't know?
"Heat-related issues." (pfft)
did mayor elect emanuel attend st judes??maybe next year when he is the mayor!lets with hold criticism for now!a safe city is a happy profitable city!without us first responders making this city safe,no one will live here or visit chicago!!u make us happy,we make u happy!!
The Oriole Park fieldhouse was closed up and locked tight for the entire three-day holiday weekend -- as usual, right when the taxpayers might like to use the park.
Oh, yes it was. I have photographs of the notice taped to the inside of the glass on the door.
I hope the staff comes back with a record bass or something.
What a f__ed-up city.
OK, four (4) people out of everyone on North Avenue Beach were taken to hospitals with "heat-related" illnesses -- it was a whole 88 degrees -- so the entire beach was shut down.
This has got to be an historic first.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-humid-and-unseasonably-warm-memorial-day-temps-20110530,0,1579042.story
Anyway, people, remember to drink lots of water -- not malt liquor and cheap vodka out of plastic 1.75s, but water and things like that -- so that you too do not end up "unresponsive" like one guy - one -- did.
>sigh<
Anonymous said...
will our new Superintendent McCarthy wear his uniform baseball cap backwards to fit in with our young brylcreme kids
not 1 supervisor in patrol will correct this BS and they all make over $100K ,CPD needs new standards for supervisors
5/30/2011 12:05:00 PM
The pension is fucked, manpower down, medical costs going up, home values down, taxes and fee's up, tuition costs for kids high school through the roof, once nice neighborhoods becoming slums. Your biggest bitch is backward hats?
will our new Superintendent McCarthy wear his uniform baseball cap backwards to fit in with our young brylcreme kids
not 1 supervisor in patrol will correct this BS and they all make over $100K ,CPD needs new standards for supervisors
5/30/2011 12:05:00 PM
Wow, that is the problem with you old timers! listen asswipe! this post is about a shooting! Officer involved shooting! This is concerning officer saftey, not about uniform standards. At this moment who gives a rat's butt about unifom standards. If you are so gung ho about the uniforms, next time you see a "young brylcreme kid" with his hat on the wrong way, have some balls and say something. Most of you old timers are the ones to blame. You never taught the young kids anything. Even worse, your demeanor does not dictate that you can be seen as a person of respect. New Officers need mentors, and very few of you have stepped up to the plate. Your that guy who the only thing you have on this dept is time, I have 20 years , I have 25 years blah, blah. You failed to mention that you have done nothing in that time frame. In my short eight years on this Job I have met some of the best old timers I could ever work with, and most important I learned a lot from them. These guys had no problem telling you that you were wrong, had no problem pointing out to bosses that thing could be done in another manner. And these guys were not Sgt. Simply PO's with some time that were respected because of their leadership and demeanor. "Brylcreme"? seriously? do you take that with geritol and viagra before your hot date? Some of these kids don't even know what brylcreme is..... BTW, Good Job officers. Don't listen to these negative idiots. Go home in one piece, Semper Fi.
If this chicago casino works out it could mean a ton of money for the city and possibly the city will get out of debt finally... a great thing for all of us city workers. more money equals more pay, more funded pensions and more money to hire officers and buy equipment.
5/30/2011 04:53:00 PM
if you were born here, it must have been yesterday, at the earliest.
Payback is a bitch.
5/30/2011 01:34:00 PM
no need to talk about my mother that way.
Chalkie
Ot- on the 5 o'clock news they broadcasted from North Avenue Beach - with a bunch of idiots throwning downsigns behind the reporter- does anyone really believe North Avenue was closed due to the heat? It's not the heat - it's the stupidity!!
OT
So what is the REAL story behind the closing of North Avenue Beach on Memorial Day?
Just this second came in the door and WBBM Radio is reporting that North Avenue Beach is closed "due to heat-related issues."
"Don't go there," they elaborated.
Uh -- do we look stupid or something?
What the hell is going on down there -- as if we didn't know?
"Heat-related issues." (pfft)
5/30/2011 08:24:00 PM
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thuggery. and multiple gang fights..i mean heat to you civilians.
Just this second came in the door and WBBM Radio is reporting that North Avenue Beach is closed "due to heat-related issues."
"Don't go there," they elaborated.
Uh -- do we look stupid or something?
What the hell is going on down there -- as if we didn't know?
"Heat-related issues." (pfft)
5/30/2011 08:24:00 PM
its just politically correct terminology for a "bunch of savages carrying guns"
"will our new Superintendent McCarthy wear his uniform baseball cap backwards to fit in with our young brylcreme kids
not 1 supervisor in patrol will correct this BS and they all make over $100K ,CPD needs new standards for supervisors"
--Give it a rest loser! you are the same tight ass who keeps complaining about our new Supt. and his grooming habits. You keep worrying about uniform standards while the rest of "kids" try to handle real police work!
Anonymous said...
will our new Superintendent McCarthy wear his uniform baseball cap backwards to fit in with our young brylcreme kids
not 1 supervisor in patrol will correct this BS and they all make over $100K ,CPD needs new standards for supervisors
5/30/2011 12:05:00 PM
The pension is fucked, manpower down, medical costs going up, home values down, taxes and fee's up, tuition costs for kids high school through the roof, once nice neighborhoods becoming slums. Your biggest bitch is backward hats?
5/30/2011 09:44:00 PM
Nope, not the biggest one. But everybody thinks the rules don't apply to them, and this is how society slides ever-so-imperceptably downhill. It's almost invisible, and then, it's just gone.
OT re earlier post about Chicago casinos: Where the heck are they going to put slots in the airports? Aisles in Terminals 1 (UAL) and 3 (AA) are crowded as is. Don't see any way to do it conveniently like Las Vegas McCarran does, and putting them behind closed doors would encourage a new generation of Quarters Boyle types. Just saying.
He actually drew a portrait of Mickey Mouse and gave it to the principal of Nixon Elementary school which I attended. It used to hang in his office till someone stole it.
I remember seeing the drawing in one of my many visits with Principal Raymond Grasshoff. I didn't know someone stole it, that's a shame.
On the old timers vs new guys, many of the new guys really don't want any help. They really think they know everything. it's a shame, but that's how it is.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't take what I say the wrong way..... 1. you weren't there 2. you weren't chasing a guy with a gun 3. you did not have an adrenalin rush 4. they are geu, they have to know all the districts, not just one like yourself 5. have another fruity cocktail and enjoy your monday morning chair 6. you may have the best intentions, but you come across as a dick
5/30/2011 08:10:00 PM
Look, if you want to take what I wrote down as personal, then so be it. I honestly don't know why some officers don't know WHAT FUCKING STREET THEY ARE AND WHAT DIRECTION THEY ARE HEADING. It's real fucking simple and if you have a problem with that, then you are the dick!
I hear you. Memorial Day in Jeff Park: Three American flags on the entire block. Damn Daley and the Democratic Machine. They did this.
5/30/2011 05:22:00 PM
It started with the Kennedy's. Now it's the immigration apologists. France and England learned too late. Can we not learn from their mistakes?
The pension is fucked, manpower down, medical costs going up, home values down, taxes and fee's up, tuition costs for kids high school through the roof, once nice neighborhoods becoming slums. Your biggest bitch is backward hats?
5/30/2011 09:44:00 PM
Nope, not the biggest one. But everybody thinks the rules don't apply to them, and this is how society slides ever-so-imperceptably downhill. It's almost invisible, and then, it's just gone.
5/31/2011 12:26:00 AM
UNiform complaints again. Some officers are so anal with the uniform. No pension, health cost rising, no problem. Worry about the uniform hat. You are an asshole.
Nope, not the biggest one. But everybody thinks the rules don't apply to them, and this is how society slides ever-so-imperceptably downhill. It's almost invisible, and then, it's just gone.
5/31/2011 12:26:00 AM
Smartest post of the day.
It's real fucking simple and if you have a problem with that, then you are the dick!
5/31/2011 07:45:00 AM
or geometrically impaired.
Your biggest bitch is backward hats?
5/30/2011 09:44:00 PM
it's a coping mechanism, like when the wife bitches about the toilet seat being left up.
Gee, I don't know why anyone would take the accusation of being "stupid and incompetent" personally, especially after being in a traumatic situation (sarcasm). The fact that you say that people should study beat maps as a way to prevent this from happening and that you've "heard" alot of foot chases makes me think you spend alot of time on the desk. Officers in a foot chase are focused on keeping their eyes on the subject so they stay alive, descriptions and locations are very important but secondary at the moment that someone could end your life in the next few milliseconds. Giving your location out as the priority and perhaps letting your focus drift away from your subject for a few milliseconds will possibly only make it quicker for responding units to find their dead body. These guys are in GEU, they have to know multiple districts, its dark out, they have an adrenalin rush and running after somebody and ariculating where you are isn't as easy as running your finger across a beat map during a quiet moment. I'm sure the responding units heard at least one location given during the chase so you go to the area and listen and watch and search. So again, you have a point but you are coming across as a know it all, Officer Perfect.
I recently threw a DC in the trash at roll call. It felt good. I want nothing more than my pay from these whores.
5/30/2011 07:23:00 PM
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Stay off our blog John Kerry!
"I have heard foot chases in 025, 015, and other districts I worked in and usually (about 75% of the time) the officer can't say over the air WHERE HE IS AT AND WHERE HE IS GOING. "
Are you fucking kidding me?!?! You are an idiot wrapped in a moron!!! I work in 025 and both the fine officers in 025 and 015 do an outstanding job of knowing where they are as they call it out!! You are a monday morning quarterback and nothing more! Why don't you get into your first shooting then you will never Monday morning QB again! If you honestly think that officers don't know where they are 75% then maybe it's you who is lost. Do us favor and don't do us any more favors you softball.
Amen.
There is a reason US special forces are super demanding about the uniform. It is because they are the best and they demand attention to detail. It is because this attention to every detail ensures that no mission is started or performed in a half ass manner. It is because nothing is taken for granted. It is because they always strive for perfection.
It also separates them from other entities that do not demand attention to detail. Entities like the ultra disgraceful, terminally dysfunctional, more likely to fail than succeed Chicago Police Department.
Probably the only big city police department in the world that cannot handle the basics of crowd control. Blame the mopes all you want, they have been causing trouble in this city for the past 75 years. The difference was the old CPD was more in line with military standards and could handle these challeges. The first option for the new CPD is to surrender the areas they are sworn to protect.
If a recruit wore their hat backwards in 1960, they would not have left the station without a punch to their face. But, of course back then CPD still had some pride in their profession. Looking like a tattooed hip thug was not on their list of things to do.
Gangbangers wear their hats tilted or backwards. Are you the police or one of those shitheads? It's very similar to 10 of you gathering at the same spot for half an hour or more, visiting with your co-workers, it looks bad to those that observe it. Some of those that observe it actually pay some taxes and might even support us, until they see us with our hat turned around, sleeping in the car on midnights in plain view of everyone, lollygagging at the coffee spot for hours on end, cussing too loud and in general, just looking and acting badly. Look, this isn't Kennilworth where we make a fraction of what the residents make, this is Chicago and we get paid a bit more than most of the people who rely on us. I'm just saying we should appear to be worth it to them.
Look, we're the police and all eyes are on us, we should try to comport ourselves in a professional manner. How can we get help on our pensions, benefits and pay when the taxpayers see us as arrogant, lazy good for nothings? It's not only the thugs that watch where we go, what we do and how we do it, some of the people looking at us are real people.
Um to the "memorize the maps" guy..I have no idea what u are talking about. We were 4 blocks away and made it there as the 1st car on scene using the P.O.s involved radio transmissions. Other than saying they were "West on McLean" (they were going East in the alley North of McLean) they did a fine job under THAT kind of pressure...a pressure Im most certain YOU have never felt. In addition they are GEU officers and work in not one but 5 districts and sometimes all over the city. Little hard to know EVERY spot.
Gangbangers wear their hats tilted or backwards.
how else do you expect them to keep the shit off of the backs of their necks?
The Rahmulator is a jag*ff. He was on the news tonight saying how good the casino would be good for Chicago and the money could be used to improve the failing infrastructure. F*ck You Rahm. If, and that's a big if, the casino gets off the ground it should be used to restore all city pension funds. After the funds are paid off it should be used for giving the residents of Chicago a reduction in their real estate taxes. In every other f*cking city in this country you can follow the graph that shows declining real estate prices over the past 5 years. If you look at the graph showing the decline in real estate taxes it mirrors or parallels the declining real estate prices graph. Not in Chicago. The real estate prices keep declining and the real estate taxes keep going up. Rest of the country graph (where one line represents home values and the other line represents real estate taxes) ===========, Chicago XXXXXXXX, get the picture? We are done paying for the Daley’s mismanagement. He has given investment opportunities to every undeserving assh*le related to him and his family and they lost a ton of our money. F*ck you Dick. Every city employee should be enjoined in a class action lawsuit against the city of Chicago and get a judgment against any profits that are generated by the casino until our pension funds are restored to 100% funded. Then an actuary should make a recommendation as to how much the city needs to pay in the future to keep the fund 100% funded. Get this straight, that’s our f*cking money and part of our compensation that you offered and we agreed to when we accepted employment with the city of Chicago. The only difference is we agreed to accept this compensation when we decided we had enough of this shit h*le
F*ck the infrastructure.
Whistleblower on a good day!
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