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The head of the Chicago police union says the city is not ready to host two major summits that would bring both international leaders and protestors. [...], the president of the Chicago police union, said summits like the G-8 and NATO bring a "bunch of wild, anti-globalist anarchists."
Protestors notoriously clashed with police officers in Seattle and Pittsburgh at previous political summits and [he] says Chicago's police force doesn't have the manpower needed to deal with thousands of potential protestors.
"The City of Chicago needs to take a serious look at how much revenue they're going to allocate immediately for new hirings because we are not ready prepared for a large summit such as this," [some guy] said.
Labels: department issues, events
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
62 Comments:
It isnt an issue of adequate Manpower,it an issue of competent leadership. 98% of the current White Shirts couldn't lead themselves out of a wet paper bag.
"Meantime, Ill. Gov. Pat Quinn said the state can handle anything. At past summits, like Pittsburgh, officers from other cities helped with patrols and controlling crowds."
Oh, goody. Maybe coppers from another jurisdiction can get in trouble like we did in Pittsburgh.
Also no coverage of the fiasco that was the Gay Pride Parade, over 20 arrested, 10-1's called battery to P.O's, assaults to P.O.'s, all kinds of fights, public drinking, indecent exposure, sex acts in the alley etc.
Why no coverage of this in the media? why is this swept under the rug? Couldn't be because we don't want to offend the gay community do we????
Also, no coverage of all the problems in and around the PR fest all week, there were over 30 arrests just on the last saturday of the fest, 014 was on bypass, all prisoners sent to 025. 10-1's called, shots fired, gun arrests, battery to P.O.'s etc etc. again, no coverage. Guess we didn't want the truth to be known about the PR's and their nonsense fest either.
No mention of the federal judge robbed in 018, should be a big story right? guess not, Rahm must have really put the media on lockdown. Media, what say you????
What we should do is figure out a way to get the "flash mobs" to battle with the anti-government anarchists. Then just sit back and enjoy the show...
If this were 1968, we would kick all their asses and the useless media pricks asses for good measure. Ah, but this is 2011 and there are no Viet Nam vets and the department is getting ever closer to all 5 foot tall officers. Not to mention we're smaller in stature now, our numbers are dwindling. Even if they kicked the hiring into overdrive, we could have maybe 800 probationary officers by then? The district I work in is down about 125 officers. If we lost another 30, we'd be at 50%. We're having trouble putting up rapids and manning all the beats and a wagon. Unless we're going to borrow a couple of thousand coppers from somewhere, we just don't have the manpower to handle this stuff.
6 months of the Academy.
Another 12 months to be off probation.
(give ot take) another 6 - 12 months to know what the fuck you are doing.
Seems like an aufull long time to get new officers ready for something thats going to be here next summer.
We are fucked!
A 5th period furlo is looking pretty good right now!
Who is going to pay for this meeting next year in Chicago? Bend over taxpayers. Why would anyone want to host this nightmare? We should be allowed to vote on this nonsense. It will look like 1968 all over again. Another black eye for the city.
This was on the NBC5 news at 10PM last night and has video of one of the 911 callers from North Avenue Beach last Memorial Day calling out Emanual and McCarthy for 'spinning' the heat and public safety story to avoid embarrassment. NBC has an "Exclusive interview" with Dick Johnson and the 911 caller who stated the beach was "covered with animals."
Woman Believes Beach Violence Covered Up
"[Amy] Schwartz says she was walking from Oak Street Beach toward North Avenue Beach when she witnessed a woman being beaten by a gang of people on the beach and called 911."
"...Schwartz believes the story of what really happened that day is being purposely downplayed in the name of saving Chicago's summer tourist business and the reputations of the city's new mayor and police superintendent."
"Both Gary McCarthy and Rahm Emanuel have said the people suffering from heat exhaustion was the only reason for closing the beach."
"A city spokesman says the violence calls were handled promptly, and deny there's any attempt to spin the facts."
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/beach-north-124629279.html
It's too late to hire to have PO's ready for street duty next year. A PO is really not much good until at least a year and a half after hiring, actually, more like two years. Until then it is all training.
The City needed to hire a year ago to have additional officers ready for street duty next year.
Too late for that.
And now there are no more bodies to scrounge from inside spots or specialized units. No more units to cannibalize. and of course, there have been no promotions for quite a while. The ranks of detectives are particularly shorthanded.
Se we are going to be either screwed, really screwed or really really screwed.
No matter what, there are only 7 days in a week in which a PO might work. but there is 24 hours in each day. That's never been tried before, 24/7 on duty, but nothing would surprise me in this town.
We couldn't even handle the gay pride parade. It was a cluster fuck of epic proportions. Iy's dubbed a police friendly event too, LOL.
We're having trouble putting up rapids and manning all the beats and a wagon. Unless we're going to borrow a couple of thousand coppers from somewhere, we just don't have the manpower to handle this stuff.
What are you talking about? This is old news. The problem was solved a while back by the utterance of three little words....TIME DUE DENIED!
The cherry on top is that kirby will head up this fiasco.
I'm a det. and have 25 years on, can get any furlo I want, including for the first time ever this year, 13B! It only took 25 years!
But next year I am seriously thinking about taking that whole month off. If I had the age, I'd be out the f*cking door before then, but I'm stuck.
IAM NOT AN OFFICER, but Iam willing to shine up my pretty 2.5 foot 2x4, I just need a place to report. Good Luck Ladies and Gentleman
Does Chicago have many of those LRAD sound cannons?
If there are not enough cops to go around, does Chicago have the cool and expensive tech toys for crowd control?
I can only wonder what kind of chaos will hit when the flash mobs start to target the out of town protestors as easy pickings... Many protestors have nice laptops and smartphones after all.
The manpower solution will be to eliminate the 5th period furloughs. While they're at it they might as well cancel the 13th period to deal with the silliness of the world coming to an end on Dec. 21, according to the Mayan calender.
The City could NOT handle a simple rally or parade and found it easier to cancel parades i.e. Irish parade and festivals i.e. Venetian night and fireworks shows.
How is the City going to handle something like this, being undermanned by 2,000 Police Officers!
How many more Police Officers will leave the job before this garbage starts up!
Buehler?! Anyone?!
Da Pelon
I'm still waiting for my 2010 crime reduction medal.
Also no coverage of the fiasco that was the Gay Pride Parade, over 20 arrested, 10-1's called battery to P.O's, assaults to P.O.'s, all kinds of fights, public drinking, indecent exposure, sex acts in the alley etc.
Why no coverage of this in the media? why is this swept under the rug? Couldn't be because we don't want to offend the gay community do we????
Also, no coverage of all the problems in and around the PR fest all week, there were over 30 arrests just on the last saturday of the fest, 014 was on bypass, all prisoners sent to 025. 10-1's called, shots fired, gun arrests, battery to P.O.'s etc etc. again, no coverage. Guess we didn't want the truth to be known about the PR's and their nonsense fest either.
No mention of the federal judge robbed in 018, should be a big story right? guess not, Rahm must have really put the media on lockdown. Media, what say you????
6/28/2011 01:01:00 AM
What say us? We will get back to you on that...we're waiting for our orders from the ministry of Rahmformation.
SCC, who is the federal judge who got her purse stolen in 018? Can you find out the name?
If this were 1968, we would kick all their asses and the useless media pricks asses for good measure. Ah, but this is 2011 and there are no Viet Nam vets and the department is getting ever closer to all 5 foot tall officers. Not to mention we're smaller in stature now, our numbers are dwindling. Even if they kicked the hiring into overdrive, we could have maybe 800 probationary officers by then? The district I work in is down about 125 officers. If we lost another 30, we'd be at 50%. We're having trouble putting up rapids and manning all the beats and a wagon. Unless we're going to borrow a couple of thousand coppers from somewhere, we just don't have the manpower to handle this stuff.
6/28/2011 01:39:00 AM
We have plenty of war vets on this job now. Guys and girls who served in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's not 1968 any more. We, by not voting, or by voting for socialist assholes disguised as democrats, have allowed this to happen.
How many cops are even fucking REGISTERED to vote? Was it 23% of the FOP membership? That's pathetic. I served in the military and overseas in Iraq. I take my right to vote seriously and have never missed a chance to cast my vote against the Machine and its subversive criminals.
Unfortunately, I'm in the minority. When I went to vote against Rahm, the place was literally empty. I was the only one in there voting. Think about that the next time you wonder why we are the only state in the union that doesn't have concealed carry and is in the worst fiscal shape in the country.
When they come for your pensions, don't wonder how it happened. You let it happen by not getting involved. You let Daley get a massive pension while he stole and bankrupt this city. Now you have Rahm trying to finish the job and put socialism in place when he can get everyone dependent on the government.
Tell the taxpayers WHO is responsible for this bad idea. Make that person responsible for the millions of tax dollars that will go to protecting and then fixing the City.
Don't count on a 1968 Police reaction. They weren't suing us into submission in '68. THIS Department won't do a thing. This animal will run wild.
Don't underestimate the fed-up citizens that are starting to see "concealed carry' is not an option anymore - it's mandatory if you are walking into Dodge City (I mean Chicago).
Reading this blog, it's clear there is not sufficient law enforcement and if anyone comes into Chicago, they should be packing.
Concealed carry still not legal in Illinois? Neither is all this BS crime that seems to go on unfettered by those who are paid to enforce the laws (Are you reading this Anita???)
PREDICTION One day Chicago is going to have its own Gettysburg and it will make the clueless politicians rush to pass concealed carry because they want to save their own political skins
Don't forget this department has for years created a "hands off" police force, and the public knows it. Don't you think professional/international riot starters that do nothing but prepare for and study the police and our tactics and policies know this? Good luck, they have a winner this time and Im certain they are foaming at the mouth waiting. If I was one of them, I would be.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/g20-perspective/index.html
Are we ready?
It isn't an issue of adequate Manpower,it an issue of competent leadership. 98% of the current White Shirts couldn't lead themselves out of a wet paper bag
Grow up you Idiot and about 99% of blue-shirts on this job could not follow directions if you spelled out for them on Billboard
What do you want me to say next my dad can beat up your dad.
6/28/2011 03:09:00 AM
Watched the video are the sheep in the media finally waking up?
Let them see how inept the Chicago Police dept. really is. Just not up to par.
In Toronto, a smaller city with less violence, they had about 4,000 police dedicated to this adventure, and still lost the town. As of today, the bills are still flowing in.
Here, with 3000 men short, it would take 40% of the entire police force ( at overtime ) to work this. Don't forget the other massive costs, including barricades, bus service, lost tourism dollars ( yes we have a major convention at the same time )
and the potential violence at the airports also, we are in lots of trouble.
Not only that, with the State Police missing about 30% of the manpower, County dito, there is little or no back-up on the horizon.
Manpower down, down, down, Training in crowd control non existent, All the supervisors who had a handle on past events are all gone, so there is no leadership in place. Most of the officers, especially young officers, have not been trained in this type of deployment. Getting the proper numbers trained and taking them off the street to get trained in time will be almost impossible. Don't let the bad guys know our weekness.
If this were 1968, we would kick all their asses and the useless media pricks asses for good measure
And then print t shirts that read "my daddy kicked your daddy's ass"
My how times have......morphed. Stay safe! Maybe next we can tie one hand behind our backs and fight crime. That should get coverage, no?
After further checking...both hands are already tied. Sorry the state of the state is far understated by state run news outlets.
Something else from 1968 - Indictments and the National Guard.
Let's skip the charges, and go for the guard, if they're not dodging incoming in one of our senseless wars.
Being a KMA member and able to take most any summer furlough next year mine will be in may,and my family and myself will be gone until this bullshit blows over! This will be a disaster as he has been everywhere it has been tried! Why not host this shit in Russia or anywhere far away from us! Think barry obama will make sure the citizens are protected? We are so fucking short,and will the burbs send enough coppers to help? Mind you the burb cops most of them don't know this city or the streets why rahm are trying to prove that you can handle this as you march on to the white house? HMM Blago wanted to be president also his chances don't look good at all now do they?
What we should do is figure out a way to get the "flash mobs" to battle with the anti-government anarchists. Then just sit back and enjoy the show...
6/28/2011 01:18:00 AM
LOL...
Since most of the anarchists are white, rich spoiled brats, that might work.
Seems like an aufull long time to get new officers ready for something thats going to be here next summer.
We are fucked!
6/28/2011 02:18:00 AM
next spring.
You pull a 60 yr old Guy out of hidta and put him in 10....really... then u take the Organized Crime gang teams and put them in uniform at the beach and Michigan Ave ....wow.... this department really is taking a spin downward
What is this "Chicago Second to None" tourism crap coming out of Tiny Dancer's nether orifices? Second to none in mobs of wild youth mugging innocent citizens? Second to none in political hackery and thievery? Second to none in letting a great police department deteriorate? You get the picture...and hiring Asshat Mcstupe doesn't help any, I'm sure.
not a cop
Daley Sr. said it best..."The police are not to create disorder, they're here to preserve disorder."
6:18am-, hey I DO have the age and I'm sticking around. I was going to retire this year but I think I'll wait till this time NEXT year. Could be fun. Think positive dude. Don't be so negative.
To the unpublished "bitch"
We didn't complain about the object of your desire. We didn't even mention his name. We pointed out that no one of import covered his statement to the press. That isn't his fault. He's learning a hard lesson that others have learned - you can call the media all you want, but you can't make them cover you.
Asshat.
After further checking...both hands are already tied. Sorry the state of the state is far understated by state run news outlets.
6/28/2011 10:44:00 AM
Sorry the state of the state is far understated by the statements stated by the state run news statement staters.
back to you.
PREDICTION One day Chicago is going to have its own Gettysburg and it will make the clueless politicians rush to pass concealed carry because they want to save their own political skins
6/28/2011 08:49:00 AM
the ones still breathing.
Grow up you Idiot and about 99% of blue-shirts on this job could not follow directions if you spelled out for them on Billboard
What do you want me to say next my dad can beat up your dad.
6/28/2011 09:38:00 AM
Why don't you two 'tweet' it out?
Anonymous said...
"You pull a 60 yr old Guy out of hidta and put him in 10....really... then u take the Organized Crime gang teams and put them in uniform at the beach and Michigan Ave ....wow.... this department really is taking a spin downward."
6/28/2011 12:51:00 PM
We all knew it was a uniform job when we took it.
My money is on Rahm inviting the Communist Chinese to help patrol the summits. Wonder what those troops make a month?
for years money was in the budget for more police. where was the money spent? the alderman that knows, has his own mini police force. he is not our friend.
FOP should plan a protest on city hall, for the shortage of manpower...
This is our F'n golden opportunity to create our own private security company to get the contract for the G8 and NATO.....wooops already done...'VANECO Industries' just got the 'no-bid' contract.....suckers!
a little o/t, but.....the guy that started the Guardian Angels (name escapes me now), was interviewed on Fox......said, basically, that members of these "flash mobs" (while the show ran footage of a large group robbing a guy in Philly) should be subject to a "wood shampoo".....hah! Now, come to think of it....how about a victim comes out with his/her firearm, ala "death wish", and starts blasting.....a significant deterrent....no?
Anarchists are the biggest pussies out there...when the shit hits the fan they will be the first killed and eaten
(OT) Another investigative piece about burke and his fleet of overpaid CPD valets will rahm finally step up and remove burkes and neelys bodyguards? Will rahm remove daleys ridiculous detail? Probably not the weak are afraid! The taxpayers are outraged will rahm man up??
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/politics&id=8220005
last post forgot link to story about burkes bodyguard nonsense!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
a little o/t, but.....the guy that started the Guardian Angels (name escapes me now), was interviewed on Fox......said, basically, that members of these "flash mobs" (while the show ran footage of a large group robbing a guy in Philly) should be subject to a "wood shampoo".....hah! Now, come to think of it....how about a victim comes out with his/her firearm, ala "death wish", and starts blasting.....a significant deterrent....no?
6/28/2011 09:16:00 PM
The founder would be Curtis Sliwa
Good job Commander!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-police-cmdr-credited-for-arresting-man-with-gun-on-mag-mile-20110628,0,861875.story
Kirby is getting it for sure. done deal
Trust me, there are plenty of inside bodies to find. They are hiding all over and many that were supposed to be moved, only moved on paper and are still in the same inside jobs On paper they may be on a post or on the street, but in reality they are still in the front office
"FOP should plan a protest on city hall, for the shortage of manpower..."
They would, but we're short FOP members! ;)
Anonymous said...
"You pull a 60 yr old Guy out of hidta and put him in 10....really... then u take the Organized Crime gang teams and put them in uniform at the beach and Michigan Ave ....wow.... this department really is taking a spin downward."
6/28/2011 12:51:00 PM
We all knew it was a uniform job when we took it.
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I think the point of this comment was, "What kind of quality product are you getting from these actions?"
More coppers in uniform? Yes.
Mostly window decoration/for show?
Definitely.
The downward spin continues.
"Training in crowd control non existent..."
Not true! We still have Streaming Video!
It's all you need to know, officer!
We don't need any actual, physical training. It's all OTJ, kid.
Isn't May the month of police week in Washington? And isn't it true that any PO that wants to go CANNOT get denied. Kinda makes you wonder - what week the G8 and NATO summits are going to be here in May!!
I thought they had parties on the South Side of Chicago for guys like Rahm Emanuel and JJJR. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't try to knock Blago off before he goes to prison , he should get some body guards to look after him as I wouldn't be surprised that the three stooges are afraid he is going to start singing like a Canary. I bet your right the one who wanted Obama's seat was the one who turned him in it only makes sense if you were a CSI. OUr Police Officers and FBI agents shouldn't fall under the power of the politician's as they meaning the politician's are just to dam corrupt.
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