Sunday, July 24, 2011

Shootings Up

  • Chicago Police officers have shot 40 people this year, nearly as many as in all of 2010.

    No one knows for sure why police-involved shootings are up.

We have a pretty good guess. Low manpower. If the shitheads don't feel pressure on the corners, they're going to act up, guaranteed.

And here's a statistic that ought to give everyone pause:
  • Police point to statistics that show aggravated assaults and batteries on police officers have risen from 739 in 2000 to 1,789 last year.
Up well over 100% in just 10 years. That ought to tell you something.

And someone agrees with our take on things:
  • Fraternal Order of Police spokesman Pat Camden was more certain of why police-involved shootings have climbed this year, leaving at least 16 people dead — compared to the 13 people killed in all of 2010.

    “There’s no fear of the police,” Camden said.

    He also said a shortage of police officers is a factor.

    “Trust me, when you have more visibility, when you have more two-man cars, this kind of thing doesn’t happen as much,” he said.

The whole article is a lot of fluff and offers nothing in the way of a realistic explanation as why so many criminals are deciding to go gun-to-gun with the police. We can't decide if Frank Main is cheering for the criminals or what.

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51 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can tell everyone why police shooting are up- the city want to the dogs.....

7/24/2011 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was discussing the shooting of the two Police Officers last week with my 8 year old grandson.

His reaction was, "if I were the Police and the bad guy pointed a gun at me, I wouldn't wait to see if they were going to shoot, I would just shoot them."

Gotta love him.

Stay safe. A wife

7/24/2011 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't read the comments, though. One asswipe was calling for cops to be run down on the road by a semi or assaulted by gun toting felons and shot. Apparently he received a parking citation at some point when he "didn't deserve it"!

For the life of me, I don't see the wisdom of allowing comments like these to be published. Guess that's why the main stream media will be extinct soon. Too many idiots in a position of authority... Hey! Just like the CPD!

7/24/2011 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Everyone on my watch says their laying down if this happens. We should have a choice about how we want to wear our vests.

7/24/2011 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No mention of presence or demeanor when it comes to dealing w/ these punks? Too many milquetoast college educated recruits & house mouse cowards leading the department.That's your 21st Century CPD in a nutshell.

7/24/2011 12:52:00 AM  
Blogger Phil Schitz here said...

Back in the 1970s, one of my professors gave a lecture regarding attacks on police officers. He said if the citizens don't respect government leaders, they will take it out on the first line of government representation: Police officers. He pointed out the turbulent 1960s; there was a lot of anti-government feelings created by the Viet Nam War and Civil Rights. If you look at the Wall at 35th street, the late 1960s were a dangerous time to be a police officer.

The present economic conditions, terrible government leaders, lack of manpower along with other factors create a dangerous envirement for coppers. The number of police involved shootings prove it.

7/24/2011 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great point about 2 man cars. Way to kill another story before the blame-game gets started.

7/24/2011 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thugs watch TV, read the newspapers, and chat amongst themselves. They have seen the uprising of Flash Mobs, Gangbangers at the lakefront causing problems. Now the neighborhood hoodlums have come out to challange the police even more than before. They have no fear of cops and know they can't do anything to stop their reign of terror. Too many bleeding hearts are in control of this town so what can you do. Nothing.

7/24/2011 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Vox Populous said...

Police shootings are up * because * the animals are shooting at the Police, no big fucking mystery there.
You shoot at me, I shoot you, same same for pointing a gun at me, don't think I'm gonna wait for you to shoot first, no fucking way Jose!
It is war between the civilized & the savages.
And a comment for that dickhead of cease fire, take a extra large slice of shit pie & go fuck yourself.

7/24/2011 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police in the U.S. kill 1 for every 37,000 arrested.

Police in RIO kill 1 for every 23 arrested.


The Police in RIO are the real POLICE.

7/24/2011 02:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring Back "Old Smokey" Jolt a few of them on the tv news. This will make them think twice about shooting at the Police.

7/24/2011 04:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh well...

7/24/2011 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am glad Camden got it into print. There is no fear of the police. We have lost the war and everyone should be made aware.

7/24/2011 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Less of a hassle to report (and charge). TRR is easier on the watch commanders.

7/24/2011 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also thanks to potato head Quinn somebody can kill as many people as they want and still not be put to death.

This state is a joke and pathetic.

7/24/2011 07:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Camden is correct.

Criminals need to fear the police.

This has been building for some time, at least since Rodney King. The King riots were the first large scale urban uprisings since the 1960s. The political reaction to this event was completely different and has set the tone for 20 years now.

The police are considered the class, cultural, and racial enemies of huge swaths of the population. They think of us as the last vestige of traditional America in an urban setting. Politicians rely on those people for votes and act accordingly.

Punitive damages, Cozzi, loss of job, etc......

Stay safe.

7/24/2011 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should be obvious to anyone who reads the Sun-Times. Young people in the city need training in how to interact with police.
They also need training in how to behave in a civilized society.

The problem, however, is where are they going to get it? Obviously not from Mom & Dad (like in the old days), not from metal-detector enhanced "schools". So, who will provide this training?

I can see McMouth and that phony phlager starting a new program to "educate" our youth.

7/24/2011 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Circle the wagons and double up the ammo. Please stay safe and Lets be Careful out there.

7/24/2011 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I could not hear my wife for four days I do not know if I would be complaining about that....

7/24/2011 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No one knows why police shootings are up?"

?????????????????????????????????

No one knows why an innocent woman got her brain damaged and teeth knocked out at the Jewel on Roosevelt.

No one knows why a woman got her brains bashed with a bat by a man and woman one evening.

No one knows why innocent citizens are being knocked off their bikes and/or thrown into Lake Michigan by gangs.

No one knows why a young high school graduate was shot in the head and murdered after she left a lakefront party.

No one knows why so many people got shot by twins at a bus stop. And an innocent woman was murdered there as a result.

No one knows why babies are being shot in the head in our parks.

No one knows why people letting their dogs out into their yards are being shot.

No one knows why a trolley full of bridal party attendees near Mag Mile was boarded by scumbags who robbed and beat them.

No one knows why the streets of downtown were practically deserted after flash mobs invaded and robbed the McDonalds, The Gap, the Walgreens, Water Tower Place...etc.

No one knows why a guy who just wanted to ride his bike along the lakefront was mob-attacked and required emergency services.

No one knows why a couple with a baby in the Drake Hotel almost got shot when a bullet tore through the wall where their heads were just moments earlier.

No one knows why the police and fireworks attendees were crouching behind cars for safety in the middle of downtown while bullets were flying after the 4th of July fireworks a couple summers ago.

No one knows why an innocent woman was pushed down the stairs at an el stop and killed after a thug robbed a piece of electronics from someone on an el.

No one knows why people are being pushed off platforms onto the el tracks.

No one knows why a tourist riding in his car along the lakefront was shot in the buttocks by a passing vehicle.

No one knows why there are young African American male gang bangers walking around downtown and this city with their pants pulled down to their thighs and underwear showing. And nobody stops them.

No one knows why White and Hispanic individuals and couples have been attacked and beaten by wilding mobs of African American youths downtown in the loop for the past two years and the media didn't report it until Mayor Daley left office.

No one knows why tourists are shying away.

No one knows why the fireworks were cancelled.

No one knows why the beaches were closed.

No one knows why attendance is down at the Taste.

No one knows why car theft is up.

No one knows why conventions are warning their attendees to stay away from the Magnificent Mile and lakeshore of downtown Chicago.

No one knows why there are 2 major Mexican drug cartels finding sanctuary and operating here with over 100,000 gang members in tow.

No one knows why Wikipedia and the new CPD Superintendent say there are over 13,000 police officers here when there aren't.

No one knows why almost weekly Chicago Police Department officers are being assaulted and hit by cars being used as weapons by paroled criminals, gang bangers et al being stopped in traffic.

No one knows why Chicago Police Department officers are being shot at FIRST pretty much daily.

No one knows why so many career criminals are walking scot free to home invade, rob, stab, shoot, rape, sell drugs, kill each other and attempt to murder cops.

No one knows why Chicago Police Department officers are being shot at almost daily and why Chicago police officers are being murdered in cold blood- during stops, during crime scene investigations, while they are changing their clothing in a parking lot, while they are one day away from retiring, while they are sitting in their cars at night, while they are walking down the street, while they are trying to help get a crazy lady off a bus...

No one knows.

7/24/2011 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous bobbo said...

Video games, which most of these kids play make them lust to shoot.

7/24/2011 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've made this comment before so some of you may remember it.

Has ANYONE out there even heard of or seen CeaseFire respond to any incident of violence??????

I've been working violent crimes for 15 years and worked the streets 10 years before that and I have not.

Don't you think mamma/grandma or someone would have said "XXXX from Cease Fire contacted me and is helping us through this right now"???

7/24/2011 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Four dead, six wounded by gunfire in citywide violence

http://www.wlsam.com

7/24/2011 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While there were a couple of anti-police comments in the comments, the overwhelming majority of the comments were pro police. The people are seeing the animals for who they are and want action.

7/24/2011 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cameras have played a part in this too. Remember the Sgt and POs from 79/vincennes? You put your hands on someone you get stripped and sued. If you do give a beat down what do you charge them with? Reckless? Loitering on the corner? How about a 1330 for not leaving the abandoned property. All I hear people say is to be reactive and answer your calls or Loevy and Loevy may be calling..

No mention of presence or demeanor when it comes to dealing w/ these punks? Too many milquetoast college educated recruits & house mouse cowards leading the department.That's your 21st Century CPD in a nutshell.

7/24/2011 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FU Frank main,Tio Hardiman and IPRA bitch,you are all civilians that have to clue what it takes to do this job,GFY

7/24/2011 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's not forget about the quote from that piece of shit Tio Hardiman!
This waste of life "former" gang banger who bleeds the city dry like a parasite with this useless fucking Ceasefire initiative has the balls to blame the shootings on trigger happy policeman!
Who the fuck are you Tio? The only shootings you know about are the ones you probably perpetrated as a FUCKING GANGBANGER.
Let me explain something to you Tio, an "animal", because that's what these people are who shoot at the police or anyone for that matter, points a gun or even flinches like he is going to draw down on a policeman deserves to be shot and god willing killed. The police are not walking the streets and randomly shooting the unarmed you fuck, we are trying to go home to our family.
I find it disgusting that you and the other store front reverends never place blame on the "animal" who you live among and probably shelter in that fucking abortion of an organization you head. When the fuck are you going to wake up and hold these people accountable?
Oh that's right, never! Not as long as you can fool the sheep to keep paying you for your useless service and act like you've made one bit of fucking change.
P.S. Fuck you Frank Main, honestly who the fuck's side are you on? Do some real journalism and maybe do a background check on some of these "animals". You put the capital H in media Hack.

7/24/2011 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simple answer to this....These are crackhead ass babies, who where spoon fed ritalin while in grammar school for 8 years and designated as ADS and learning diable students. They have no grasp of reality, drugs have destroyed the reasoning portions of their brains they suffer from delusions of grandeur and a power affixations that allows them to become and act out a predatorial life style
They live in a society, Who for far too long has address their problems by apologizing for them, throwing money at them and allowing them to blame others for their lot in life. Their "RED BADGES" of courages comes from intimidation, violences, anti social behavior, and any real attempt to adept to normal behavior or responsibilities is offset by the mob mentatlity. Yep! we have allow to be created in our own midst, the arrogant and the ignorant, who only answer to any problem is VIOLENCE.

7/24/2011 12:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

40 shootings for all of 2011......any way to compare that total with the day to day shootings and killings by the gangbangers for all of 2011? Thought I saw that 4 were killed and 13 wounded last night alone.

Let's focus on the real villians here and support the police.

7/24/2011 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hopefully all were kills

7/24/2011 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lets keep up the good work fuck them

7/24/2011 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats don't believe in laws. They burn Flags. They want Change. They want everything for free and will disrupt civil society to get it.
There is no punishment fot the laws they break.
'Get out of Jail' cards are printed on every Democratic Ballot along with the names of Quinn, Alvarez, Dart.

Lenient judicial system with an empty penal facilty is whats wrong.
As Rahmulus once said, " ... put some skin into the game".
No politician here so far hasn't.

7/24/2011 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

via WBEZ...

<< Snip >>

http://www.wbez.org/story/chicago-police-kill-14-first-half-2011-89542?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wbeznews+%28WBEZ+-+City+Room+%28News%29+RSS%29&utm_content=Twitter

Chicago police kill 14 in the first half of 2011

[...]

Superintendent Garry McCarthy addressed the high number of recent police shootings at a press conference last week. "People are willing to point and fire guns at police officers on a regular basis here in this city. So there's something going on, there's a wanton disregard for law, and you know, the fact is our officers are in these confrontations every single day and doing an exceptional job," he said.

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Guess what Gary!?

This is the "Sanctuary City" of course there is disregard for the law!

Every single illegal immigrant that has been given sanctuary here, allowed to reside here, work here, drive here, all without obeying any of the rules while getting city, state, and federal rewards for doing so on top of it all knows that the laws don't mean shit for them!

The laws don't apply to them.

The illegal immigrants are just like the corporate investment bankers that are running rampant frauds and are granted immunity and impunity.

We no longer have a country because we've failed to protect our borders.

We no longer have a country because no-one has to learn our language -- we are being forced to learn there's.

With the loss of the borders and the language we lost our culture.

You see it more each day with the drug related shootings in numbers that now compete with Mexico.

We are adapting the illegal immigrant drug cartel culture.

There's no political will to change that, all the politicians care about are the votes and the Federal funds that they can get their hands on by allowing it to flourish.

The corporate friends love the people when they are in a state of limbo and can be easily exploited one way or the other.

My guess is that we'll see the be-headings and mass grave sites here soon just like one sees south of the border. That's our new culture. How do you like it so far?

Good luck with your "Broken Windows" b.s. It's going to be interesting to watch how you sweat the little stuff as the illegals flaunt the laws in your face because they have been given weapons by the ATF and zones of impunity by the politicians in which to operate.

You don't need a green card, don't need a passport, don't need a social security card, don't need a drivers license...just come on in. Bring in your pregnant wife, girlfriends and daughters too it's like winning the lottery. The American taxpayers will pay for your medical care. The American taxpayers will fund your business start up because you're special!

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[...]

The 14 deaths in the first six months of this year came from a total of 35 shoot-outs police engaged in. Not every shooting results in a death. Last year's 13 fatalities were the result of a total of 44 police-involved shootings for the ENTIRE YEAR.

(emphasis mine)

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Fascinating how when the zones of impunity get challenged with just a slightly higher number of cops on the streets the number of police involved shoot-outs soar isn't it?

We're up 100% from last year and the hottest part of the summer is yet to arrive.

As the out of touch Governor and out of touch Mayor attempt to ramp up their austerity programs I think it will only get worse -- we'll see.

Makes one wonder -- is crime down due to less crime happening or down because of lack of manpower and intentional zones of impunity allowing it to flourish unreported.

I think many of us know the real answer.

7/24/2011 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dodging bullets!


--clip--

3 charged in South Shore confrontation with police

[...]

Officers on patrol were called to south Yates Boulevard to investigate a report of a man with a gun, according to the statement. While in the area, the officers stopped a car after noticing that its back license plate was covered.

When the officers went up to the car, they saw Lipsey, who was of the passengers in the car, put something under one of the car seats, according to the statement.

Davis, another one of the passengers, then got out of the car and pulled a gun out of his waistband. One of the officers told Davis to drop the weapon, and when he did not, the officer fired a shot toward Davis, who was not hit, according to police.

Police found two guns, and all three men were arrested at the scene, according to police. One of the officers had a finger broken while the three were being arrested, but that officer was treated and released.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-3-charged-in-south-shore-confrontation-with-police-20110724,0,5243131.story

7/24/2011 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't wait for the Chicago Casinos ya know?

--clip--

Police: 7 wounded in casino shooting near Seattle


Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7667461.html#ixzz1T3RO1S6p

7/24/2011 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Manpower shortage still and will remain one of the main causes for the spike in violence against the police and the crime rate on the streets.

7/24/2011 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

police shootings are up because we are wearing our black vest covers.

7/24/2011 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The taser comment made me fall out of my chair laughing....priceless! Perhaps the next step would be just tasering them in the knee..

7/24/2011 03:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck head Tio Hardiman said that the police have training in how to interact with the public but the poor wayward youth don't have any training in dealing with the police.

IT'S CALLED PARENTING YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE.

7/24/2011 04:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever happened to the $$$$Reward for anyone shooting at us? Did it pass us by? Wasn't it sponsored by a fire guy too?

7/24/2011 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Only 40 police shootings? You guys short of ammo or what?

7/24/2011 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic,but a big thanks to the Hoffman Estates p.o. and Sgt. who helped out my daughter last night. It's nice that we can still take care of each other....sometimes it seems it is all we have left after the talk about reducing our pensions and taking away our medical, is how we help each other. Thanks!!

7/24/2011 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im just curious.....was it hotter on memorial day than it was this past week? i checked and north ave was still open

7/24/2011 07:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cameras have played a part in this too. Remember the Sgt and POs from 79/vincennes? You put your hands on someone you get stripped and sued. If they can sue you, sue them back. Who cares how it makes you look, and what secrets on both sides get revealed.

7/24/2011 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It should be obvious to anyone who reads the Sun-Times. Young people in the city need training in how to interact with police.
They also need training in how to behave in a civilized society.

The problem, however, is where are they going to get it? Obviously not from Mom & Dad (like in the old days), not from metal-detector enhanced "schools". So, who will provide this training?

I can see McMouth and that phony phlager starting a new program to "educate" our youth.

7/24/2011 07:35:00 AM

If the "youth" get decent training on how to act & behave in a civilized society, that lessens the interaction with the police, dont you think?

7/24/2011 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tio hardlyman is laughing all the way to the bank with millions of leftie liberal taxpayers dollars in his bank accounts! yeah he is a
dofus but he got his scam down!

7/24/2011 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ot- but interesting
Lying and Cheating in the Home of the Brave
By Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, July 21, 2011

So, I'm trying to channel Moses here to find out why so many Americans are bearing false witness against their neighbors. Ask any attorney or judge, and they will tell you that lying under oath is now the rule, not the exception, in the nation's courtrooms.

In addition, the national cheating epidemic has exploded as a Georgia investigation alleges systematic cheating occurred at 44 public schools over a ten-year period. But it's not the kids who were caught. No, the state says at least 178 teachers and principals did the deeds. It seems the remarkable improvements in student scores on the Criterion-Referenced Competency Tests were fraudulent. Educators doctored the tests in order to make their schools look good. They have all been fired.

Lying and cheating almost always comes down to betrayal, and is most often driven by selfishness. America has become a nation obsessed with immediate gratification. Public schools have embraced secularism with a vengeance, therefore Moses and his Ten Commandments have been banished. There are, of course, good people who understand that honesty is, indeed, the best policy if you want to live a worthwhile life. But their numbers are dwindling. In fact, a recent study out of the University of Connecticut says that an astounding 95% of high school students have admitted to cheating in the past year.

For a variety of reasons, our society now embraces and empowers scoundrels. Many of them are fun—exciting. Charlie Sheen commands headlines. Bad guy rappers make millions. In the 1960's, it was "If it feels good, do it." Today, it's "If it looks good, steal it." Or "If it sounds good, say it." Many of the moral boundaries that once elevated this country have collapsed.

President Obama talks about "shared sacrifice" and we used to have that in the USA. My parents pulled together with their neighbors during the Great Depression and World War II. Americans looked out for each other in those trying times. Lying and cheating were considered shameful and could get you ostracized. Generosity and honor were celebrated in even the poorest precincts. This is not some romantic remembrance; that's what happened.

Not today. Now it's a free-for-all of getting what you want as quickly as possible. Lying and cheating are considered by many to be useful tools on the road to accomplishment. If society does not hold us responsible for deceit, why should we hold ourselves responsible?

It's a tough question to answer when students see their teachers cooking the books. And God help the public person who addresses the issue. That person will be branded a hypocrite if he or she has any wrongdoing on the resume.

Truth be told, even Moses would have a tough time in this environment.
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7/24/2011 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers stay safe and continue to eliminate your threats.

7/25/2011 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is McGoofy complying with the residency requirement?

7/25/2011 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the "youth" get decent training on how to act & behave in a civilized society, that lessens the interaction with the police, dont you think?

7/24/2011 08:51:00 PM



Bailiff, whack his pee pee!!!

7/25/2011 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
tio hardlyman is laughing all the way to the bank with millions of leftie liberal taxpayers dollars in his bank accounts! yeah he is a
dofus but he got his scam down!

7/24/2011 09:24:00 PM


He's just today's version of Bobby Rush or Luis Gutierrez... Don't be surprised if he's running for political office down the road.

7/25/2011 03:34:00 AM  

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